Smith & Wesson J,K,L and N revolver frame size Comparison
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- This is a size comparison of the 4 common Smith and Wesson frame sizes. The revolvers used in this video are as follows
629-3 44 mag 6 inch barrel
686 no dash 357 mag 4binch barrel
66-2 357 mag 4 inch barrel
60 no dash 38 special 2 inch barrel - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Great video, great revolvers!
I was a police officer in a large US city from 1973 to 2009.
The Model 19 (and later the Model 66) were extremely popular revolvers for the police officers on our dept. We were required to buy our own revolvers, and were allowed to have .357 Magnum revolvers, but the department issued .38 Special lead SWC-HP ammo which was a "Plus P" load, but wasn't called "+P" at that time. The practice ammo the department gave us was a milder .38 Special lead SWC load and 148 gr. wadcutters. I never knew a police officer who fired a "steady diet" of .357 Magnum ammo and never saw a damaged Model 19/66. I think it was sport shooters who had those issues.
My first duty revolver was a Colt Trooper MKIII, nickle plated. I wanted a S&W Model 19 but it cost $175.00, in blued finish, at the time v. the Colt at $154.00 in nickle. A year later, I bought a nickle plated Model 19 with 2-1/2" barrel for an off duty gun.
In the late 70s I bought a S&W Model 28 (N Frame). Another great handgun and very popular with officers. 4" barrels were, by far, more common than anything longer. Anything longer jammed into car seats and was uncomfortable to carry. Some of the motorcycle officers carried them as well as some of the horse mounted park police.
The "L" frame series were never very common with police officers. In 1986 our department started allowing us to transition to semi-autos and after 1991 new officers were required to carry semi-autos. They are great revolvers, but they came at the very end of the "revolver era" for police officers. Some of the new officers between 1981-1986 had them. The majority of the veteran officers were carrying older S&W and Colt revolvers. Keep in mind that, in 1980, some officers had been carrying Model 19s since they came out in 1955 and couldn't figure out the reason they needed something else.
In the early 70s the "approved" revolvers were Colt or S&W, double action, .38 Special or .357 Magnum with barrels not less than 4" nor more than 6". Some time later (I think late 70s, maybe early 80s) Ruger and Dan Wesson revolvers were added to the list. They were both used by a few officers.
We were NOT allowed to make ANY modifications to the guns except a change of grips.
Off duty guns were much less restricted, but we still had to register them with the department. Some were not allowed. I bought a High Standard double derringer in .22 Magnum and was told "NO WAY!"
I switched to semi-autos in 1988, using a Beretta 92F at first, and after going into plainclothes duty a SIG P228. I still own every duty and off duty handgun I ever bought for the job (except the .22 magnum derringer) and still carry some of them.
Oh yes, I have 3 S&W J frames...a model 40, 640 and 642. My wife carries a S&W Model 332 I bought over 20 years ago.
BTW, Colt Pythons and S&W Model 27s were never popular with officers. Too expensive, and they offered nothing useful for a police officer.
Alot if very good information. Thanks for sharing and thank you for watching
Very interesting! The S&W Model 29 was not used, in the police?
@@josiahhayes4903 Police officers cannot use just any firearm they want. They are either issued one by their department, or they must purchase their own from an approved roster of handguns.
The Model 29 (.44 Magnum) was used by very few police departments. The .44 Magnum is not a good cartridge for police use. I am not aware of any agency that issued Model 29s and very few would have allowed individual officers to carry one. "Dirty Harry" was a movie, not real life.
The S&W Model 27 (.357 Magnum) was also used by very few police officers. Too expensive for individual officers to purchase and MUCH too expensive for departments which provided handguns to officers.
Premium grade revolvers, like the Python and Model 27 just don't offer anything useful to police officers to justify the expense. Yes, a few officers had them. Very few.
I carried a Model 28...the lower cost version of the Model 27...for many years. Police officers just don't need highly polished finishes, tuned actions or micrometer adjustable sights.
In the 70s, it was much more common to see S&W "Victory Models", surplus WW2 revolvers in .38 Special, which were available for well under $100 at the time, than a premium grade revolver.
@@garyK.45ACP Thank you! May I ask you in what city you worked as a police officer?
Great storytelling, thanks. I never quite understood why a "steady diet of .357" would be required, especially since, as you rightly mentioned, most PD's trained with 38 Special. And carrying a magnum ammo that is so drastically different from one trains with is just asking for trouble. 38 +P or one of its former iterrations would have been suitable in most situations. For this purpose, a 19 or 66 is perfectly appropriate, with perhaps an edge to the 66 in terms of durability. And yes, the 28 must have been the best value for money revolver available at the time across all brands, if someone had a large enough hand to accommodate its grip, and didn't mind carrying the extra weight.
Beautiful collection. I’m jealous.
Thank you. They are just common older revolvers. Thank you for watching
Your N frame is a special model to have the unfluted cylinder on .44 Magnum. Beautiful collection.
Thank you. I live that gun. There is not alot of those around from that time era. Thanks for watching
@@TerryBenton Welcome
So many options. Can’t decide!
It is a tough decision.
Difficult to beat that 66 for sheer elegance.
I really like that gun. The trigger in ot is one of the best. Thanks for watching
Just bought a 442. Deciding whether to get a 29 or 5 inch 629 full lug as my next revolver.
That is a hard choice. They are both cool guns.
Oh my.. it must be Christmas 🎄 😊
Lol. It will be soon. Thank you for watching
👍 Excellent examples of four of the different S&W revolver frame sizes. Perhaps you could sometime do a similar comparison with your Colt revolvers?
Yes I will do thst
If it was not for the 1911 i think a revolver would be my favorite type of pistol
You have no idea how much I agree with you. I have several 1911s and I am going to do some 1911 content very soon. Thanks for watching
Thank you sir i have been subbed for a while and will always stay subbed i cant wait to see the 1911 videos thanks again
Love those grips on that 66
Thank you. They are pretty slick.
Love all the grips. Trees are for gun furniture, not hugging!
@@brianklamer3328 lol. Never thought of it that way
bonjour belle collection de revolvers de s&w en différent calibre ils sont tous superbe mon coup de coeur va aux modèle 629 en calibre 44 magnum merci de se partage vidéo cordialement
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Nothing like carrying a revolver for concealed carry. One thing I noticed on all recently made K frame S&W revolver are made for .38-spl +P pressures. The cylinders are of a .38-spl size. Cannot fit longer .357-sized cartridges. It may be a situation that .357-mag K frames like the S&W-19 revolver may be more able to withstand .357-mag pressures. I have a newer S&W-10, +P rated, that has a thick barrel, wider frame, somewhat larger hammer. Have some friends with #10's that are not +P rated that are somewhat smaller. Best thing I upgraded was the wooden grips. Those original, from the factory grips were just too small.
They are pretty small. I have noticed that the older o es do not say plus P on them. I think they are fine with plus p in them but I am not an expert. Definitely not 357 mag. Lol. Thanks for watching
I think the older ones are safe for plus p. You are correct that those small wood grips are pretty small.
Do u shoot them with those grips or change them out at the range ?
I do not change the grips. Shooting a firearm with factory grips does not harm them
Hey friend
Did you see Colt just released 4 new revolvers?
Kodiak 44mag ported barrel
Grizzly 357 mag ported barrel
Viper looks like KC with half lug in 3" and 4
I was going to get an anaconda. But I think I'll get the Kodiak instead.🖖
Is it just an unfluted cylinder amd ported barrel? Is that the difference in the anaconda?
Nice family, Hmm… looks like my family lol
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Lol
No need to show us they are clear. If you say it, we believe you. No need even to say it. We KNOW they are clear. Nobody's that idiot to show his guns on CZcams loaded. Anyway, that's a great collection and a great video. I like especially the 66 and the 686. Of course, the 686 is stronger. Do you shoot the 66 with .357 Magnum or with .38 Special?
I shoot it with both. It takes alot to harm a steel frame revolver. CZcams requires you to state they are not loaded. They are weirdos. Thanks for watching