High & Dry: How UK Fishermen Were Sold Out by Brexit
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- čas přidán 27. 01. 2022
- This is the story of what’s really happening to local fishermen in post-Brexit Britain. Last year, Greenpeace spent the summer investigating, documenting and exposing what was really going on in so-called Marine Protected Areas. After learning just how bad things were out at sea, we teamed up with local small-scale fishermen and began campaigning together.
Produced and directed by Imogen Putler
Camera operators: Kristian Buus, Fionn Guilfoyle, Andrew McConnell, Suzanne Plunkett, Isabelle Povey, Alice Russell and Jack Taylor
Campaigner: Fiona Nicholls
Digital campaigner: Bryony Walker
Editor: Imogen Putler
Motion graphics by Emily Scaife
Colourist: Nadia Khairat Gomez
Music by Chris Zabriskie, Lyndon Scarfe and others
Poem by Martin Yorwarth
#GetOceanProtectionDone #NoFishNoFuture #OperationOceanWitness #SimonPegg
Fishermen like many other people were angry with the wrong people, they thought that their loss of quotas was due to the EU, while the true architect's of their distress were Tories who commodified quotas and gave them to their friends and mates. Yet still the small fisherman brought the Tory lies and became complicit in their own impoverishment.
That's the case with a lot of the anger from a lot of Brexiteers, it's misplaced on the EU where now with Brexit, they are going to get a reality check on where the real problem and it's a lot closer to home and the Tories are a big part of the problem, after all, for the last 10 or 15 years, they've done massive cuts across the board in the UK which has impacted a lot of people in a negative way, especially the poor and middle classes.
Still I think it's going to take about a decade or so for the British people to really wake up to the damage the Tories have done on the UK and British people.
In the end, the fishing industry just like the food industry voted for Brexit based on lies and faults promises on what they wanted to happen and not what would happen, they got sold out but in truth, they sold themselves out by falling for those lies, lies that remainders constantly told them about but they didn't want to listen, kept saying project fear and now they are paying the price and rightly so because it's because of these groups of people why the UK is in such a mess and not just on Brexit, but on the pandemic and on voting in the Tories the last decade or so.
Neil (Fisherman): "It needs somebody to take the bull by the horns and actually do something about it". Here's an idea - how about a pan-national entity with real (economic) clout on the world stage, developing a policy to outlaw destructive fishing practices and the resources required to enforce it - can you think of anything like that - I can; it's called the European Union - oh I forgot; UK fisherman voted to Leave and reclaim their "sovereignty" - how's that plan worked out for you?
@@peterdavidson3268 Exactly this, the EU gets a lot of stick from some but they have sound policies in many areas that benefit the people of the EU, too bad the Brexiteers couldn't see past thier hate.
@@paul1979uk2000 As a remainer i've got to say that's very very well said.
Sorry, so where are these mega trawlers coming from? EU countries and beyond surely?
Never seen so many people get exactly what they wanted and still complain.
You ohhhh. So correct , what is wrong with. Fishermen , they got Brexit done , got there sovereignty, two out of three ain’t bad? There winners ,,,,
Problem is they didn’t. The feckless lying government did this. Get Patel and her lying crew to send the navy to protect our fish, in fact give her the ultimatum, better still hire some of Somali migrants to board the fly fisherman’s boat and pirate them.
@@alexsmith358 Democratic countries arguably get the government they deserve. So there is that.
Well, to be fair, the fishermen didn't get what they wanted, but they sure as hell got what they voted for, and were warned for, time and time again.
This is not just about Brexshit. The man said 'the French and Dutch are not happy as well'. These unstainable industrial fishing practices are carried out by subsidiaries of large food corporations like Kraft and Unilever or are owned by banks and insurance companies, who bought up boats for their quotas, scraped the boats and use the quotas together. The EU may well be able, by collective action, to exclude these practices from their member states waters. But the UK is on it's own and having used the fishing folks to 'get Brexshit done' they can expect no help from the junta in London.
Fishermen like all Brexiteers voted to leave for what they imagined they would gain for themselves, regardless of what others would loose.
Remainers voted for what they knew would be good for the future all of us,
Certainly the way I voted! Brexit promised bountiful gains, you could see that nonsense a mile off and i could see the issues we'd have from 2016 onwards a mile off.
Irony being "remain" was the true patriotic decision
Patriotism means wanting the best for your country and your fellow countrymen.
Selfishness is wanting what will give you the most and to hell with others.
STUPIDITY was voting for brexit.
If you believed Boris, whose fault is it?
@@Buckets1000 Exactly: A looong proven history as a liar but these people chose to believe him over all the experts.
The way to tackle such things is at the EU level. We cannot do this any more because UK gave up its sovereignty in such matters.
I'd say Boris's or are you suggesting that the fault lies always with the deceived and never with the deceiver ? That's a grim point of view for anyone who's been conned knowing it's never the fault of the conman or for the married woman whose husband said he wasn't cheating when he was . Her fault for believing him. Pretty harsh way of chopping up blame Hannah if I do say so.
The British reputation for gullibility is alive and present.
And least we forget, the UK gov now allows factories to dump untreated seweage and chemical waste to the UK waters, rivers that discharge to the coastal waters of england (Scotland's SNP government didnt went along with the policy). If before EU countries were reluctant to buy fish from england, now it's a total no go.
Then why did all the companies get fined the other day if they allow it.
This from a continental, worse even: a Frenchman:
Guys…you are saying that you have been fooled and voted for the wrong persons.
This is not how I see it, to me, you have voted for a plan in which your neighbors would no longer be allowed to fish into your waters while you would keep selling them your products.
Unfortunately you have forgotten two things:
- those waters are so narrow and interconnected; the fish often have breeding grounds in one State’s waters and feeding ones in another, meaning that those who will no longer be authorized to fish in waters where the adult fish are, will start catching younger fish, hereby depleting “adult fish” waters;
- giving the finger to someone usually calls for a reply, and your neighbors feel like you’ve given them the finger.
I personally feel like you have given us the finger.
And our reply came. They wanted to play power politics with former allies ? We are much stronger than that pathetic pirate island.
It seems to me that what the fishermen need is something like the EU to issue quotas and to keep reducing them year on year until fish stocks recover and reach sustainable levels. Waters that separate countries cannot be controlled by just one country but need international cooperation to be effective.
Maybe have some sort of commission, call it the fisheries commission and have the UK there - if they choose to go? Oh yeah. We had that.
Good luck selling such a sensible notion to greedy xenophobes.
GREENPEACE, why you
delete my post? Dare to
explain that to me!! Orrr
you don't have the balls?
Quite shocking from a country who call the sea between UK and France, the "English Channel" wheras France just call it "the Channel"
@@chibani- The same country that calls the sea between Britain and Ireland the Irish Sea, and calls the Pas de Calais, the Dover Strait. What's the problem?
They actually listened ?
To actual TORIES ? ?
And actually BELIEVED them ? ? ?
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw !
I remember when "remoaners" warned fishing and other industries about the consequences of brexit, they were dismissed with "project fear"
The problem faced by fishermen in the UK as a result of the separation from the EU is only a secondary problem compared to the problems that fisheries have, as a result of Westminster fundamentally destroying the basis of fishing by polluting the waters.
So now they can get their water polluted as they don't have to follow the anti-pollution EU rules.Right ...just secondary 😂😅👍
I am not British nor a fisherman, but I can say that it is very stupid to vote to cut direct access to your biggest customers.
Spot on, they were all told, i tried to counter the lies, i was given abuse, i was ridiculed, i was proven correct time and time again....
I sometimes don't understand why people listen to politicians for example you wouldn't go to a politician asking about medical advice you would go to a Doctor the same with Brexit you wouldn't ask a politician how brexit going to impact on the UK economy you would ask an economist.
It's much worse, it's as if a _doctor_ is listening to a politician telling something about the right way of medical treatment and then also believes this nonsense.
@@herosstratos yes. So correct , just take rece hog if he hadn’t been born into money he would have been nothing, but people still listen to him?
Could be that they're morons... I was utterly aghast at where people were getting their influence and information from.
Where is Nigel?
A good thing british fishermen listened to Farage: the man proved himself when he was nominated as representative of the UK fisheries at the E.U., where decisions about the common fishing policies are negociated and decided.
Oh, and didn't go to a single meeting.
Pity.
Well, better leave the E.U., therefore no longer being part of its legislative and decisionnal process, nor being protected by its standards, and put all our trust not only in a party which only policy is nlt just to make the richest richer at the poorest's expense, but to wreck standards and regulations: i'm sure it will spawn all sorts of protections for nature and fishermen.
Brilliant reasoning.
And a great show of friendship to your neighbours, while we're at it.
It's why some people shouldn't be allowed to breed or out...
You should tag this video with “Simon Pegg” and other names so it pops up when someone searches for them. Also put it in the description. This may increase visibility.
They knew what they voted for and they got it so what’s the problem?
I agree with you that they voted for it and it was stupid, but the problem is the continuation of the destruction of the fishing industry and the degradation and overfishing of UK waters. This impact the fishermen the most, but it will also affect the UK as a whole. Everyone feels this impact. Basically it’s a giant clusterfuck.
There is very simple solution to this problem. We all need to eat a plant based diet. The ocean does not need managing by humans for it to recover, it just needs to be left alone.
Nigel, Boris where are you? You said we were going to be alright why have you deserted us.
@@Buckets1000 And in other breaking news, water is wet..?
They never deserted us. They were never with us. Like many Brexit related happenings, i'm frankly terrified you as a person can't se e that all these years later.
I hope this is another stepping stone towards Scotland's independence.
Saor Alba. Greetings from Portugal.
Brexit was supposed to mean taking back control, maybe it would have been better to stay with the CFP in the EU. At least their regulation was based on science and conservation. British fishing policy is a tool to be used by politicians to advance their own careers. What they know about fish only extends to how it appears on a plate in an expensive restaurant.
Yep with short term gains above long term protection of the seas which if they are not careful could do a lot more damage to the fishing industry.
I see the Brighton MP could get involved but the local MP, Maria Caulfield, hid away as usual when things get tough.
When in history did the rich and powerful stand on the side of the little man, when did the Tories stand up to the average Joe?
If you support the party of the few you get politics that benefit the few and the chance you are amongst them is very slim!
They knew what they voted for !
A very insightful video as always. People need to realise the environmental impact over-fishing around the world is causing. Marine life and animals that depend on fish to survive are drastically declining. Plastic waste entering our seas and oceans, pollution damaging sensitive eco systems. Politicians the world over will tell you what you want to hear, regardless of the party they stand for. Politics will not fix the wrongs. People will.
Absolutely despicable greed and devastation of our sea.
'our sea'?
If you thought that was bad, just look at what's going on in India. "I don't give a damn about Indian fishing waters". Well that was the case with most "Brexit issues" in 2011, 12, 13, 14, 15 and part of 16. It only became a "problem" when politicians told suffocatingly gullible people it was....
But but, If the Brittish catch increases. ... Who you gonna sell it to?
Sadly they were too moronic to realise this eventuality. Kind of makes me terrified they're allowed to be in charge of some very large and very heavy boats.
The maniac in number 10 didn't deliver Brdxit he delivered a dogs dinner and we swallowed it whole.
He shouldn't have needed to "deliver Brexit" had everyone been
1 Not so gullible
2 Intelligent
3 Made an informed vote, free of bait cabin conversation and pub table nonsense
4 Came to their senses.
British eat Cod, overfishing in the 60's destroyed Cod stocks in British Coastal waters.
They sure as hell don't eat enough to have caused _that._
What happened was the Tories' beloved "market forces" - there was a Europe-wide (and beyond) market for British cod, so as long as there were buyers for them, fish were caught and sold, with entirely predictable (and predicted) results.
As a Yank, I am confused. Just looking at Brexit and how it would negatively affect the fishing business (and I recognized the negativity and I am no commercial fisherman) that fishermen companies voted for the destruction of their own businesses! Why?
Missinformation- It happened in many countries at a level that took everyone by surprise because of social media and the bad people were finding out they can manipulate people this way.
Got it in one. The stupidity and cocksuredness of some. And Brits wonder why some people in other countries we holiday at takes a second glance whenever "la Inglese" rock up.
"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" - G.W. Bush
I'm pro-EU and in terms of economics fishing is much of a concern to me. However I had no idea that the Spanish ships were that size. Seems a bad idea to have ships that size anywhere the environmental damage they must do must be eminence.
Been like that for ages. Are you living under a stone, or never cared about ordinary hard working peoples working conditions??
awful, truly awful. it always hits mother nature and the little people.
It only hits the "little people" because instead of realising they were being played by the elite, they got sold a pack of lies and took it hook, line and sinker.
zero sympathy.play stupid games win stupid prizes
Sue them!
Well, the fishermen and women certainly weren't the only ones who were sold out by Brexit.
I believe there are many alternative opportunities as lorry drivers, or seasonal farm workers.
European here: "chuckles - then laughs my ass off!"
No puedo entender como un pueblo de comerciantes, de tenderos que decia Napoleon, no se dio cuenta que en el tema de la pesca, lo importante no es pescarlo, sino comercializarlo y para desgracia de los pescadores ingleses, los que comemos el.pescado y lo pagamos a un precio muy superior al de cualquier pais de Europa, somos los españoles y el que paga, manda
Excellent lesson of essential marketing in a tee cup. 👍👌👏
Not great news. I think the boulder field idea was very effective. You should role that out to cover wider area.
about time a few wreck where sunk over the fishing grounds too stop these mega hoovers !!
Eh?
@@keithreeder a few old ships too snag the net's.
Just built offshore wind farms, that stops fishing in the area
Big Money drove Leave and Big Money is now "on the take " #VotedRemain #fishing
One word scandalous, taking the food out of our mouths
You got Brexit done , plus you have sovvrintea , two out of three ain’t bad ?
Don't forget blue passports, hey thats three out of three, must be the wrong song!
The tories gave all the fishing to their doners the little fishermen were used for propergander. And they lapped it up like gammons
Question to clarify myself: What does have to do Brexit with all this sinve it has been going on for years?
They blamed the eu so they voted to leave and they are now shocked that it has NOTHING to do with the eu. They’re idiots
Oh c**p! Unsustainable fishing is bad for the nature, fishermen, fish industry, and the consumers in the UK alike... and for Norway and the Atlantic EU countries as well.
Who owns the factory trawlers?
Private entity's and wealthy skippers with EU fishing quotes to fill. Fishing and landing are well regulated, the problem is national economic and political interests weighs more than well documented environmental damages, and future negative impact.
The same issues as with our environmental damaging agricultural sector... 😢🙈🙈
the wind keeps blowing from Doris, but nothing useful ever happens, when talking about being useless ?.
Hahaha you believed politicians 🤣 😅 😂 😆 😄
Fishermen should believe the government in theirstatement : F**k business ! they did and will keep on doing ! Fishermen have to believe more and more !
"Send in the army".
Like all other countries would and do.
So, does Greenpeace support the environmentally unsustainable Common Fisheries Policy then?
Random blockades of the port of Dover will get the attention of MPs guaranteed.
Fishermen are selling more fish to Canada now
I think we should establish conciles of the same sector in the EU. Let Experts try to debate their idea of resolving issues and with a second look from economists will go down to the parliament to decide.
Zero sympathy for these fishermen and women... Brexit was sold as a total lie. Why did they believe in Farage, Boris et al from the Brexit side?
As a remainer is was told to "suck it up" - nope, not me, never again. I will continue to hold Brexit voters to account for this mess that I did not vote for!
My advice to the fishing communities is to please hold your local MP to account and keep asking where all of the Brexit benefits have disappeared to. Only if Boris and the like are held accountable will any change take place.
Is there something like artisan fishing or do? WTF means industrial fishing? Thus Brexit was about protecting the Uk fishing industry by LEAVING the European Common Fishery Policy?
Sure. That is completely logical.
It's about scale. in the film one man said these huge 'industrial ships' catch in one hour what a normal fishing trawler would catch in a year . This on top if the fact they care nothing for sustainability , they exhaust a supply and move on not doing anything to preserve that environment for fishing in the future. These practices regardless of brexit or if we had stayed in the EU have more or less killed off fishing in areas which one were both plentiful and fished sustainably.
@@HitTheBricks89 Yep. Thats the common lie. Another Brexit delusion. So now you have all the fish in the world but nothing to eat
The fishermen got what they wanted - like Andy Pipkin in „Little Britain“. They won and should get over it. Project fear turned out to be Project here.
Why is green peace weighing in on Brexit??
What a stupid question !
I blame all those that voted Leave, leaving the UK powerless in such matters. UK is now wholly in the hands of the Tory Party and the scoundrels who remain in charge of it.
How’s that BRexit going?
I don't understand? what that has to do with brexit?
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But what are the fishing industry going to do about the lies they were told,,,,talking is no good,action get the Tories out
The first thing is to admit they were wrong as voters to go to the polling booths full of a poor understanding and the wrong choices like they did. I've only seen a fraction of fishermen admit they were stupid and regret it. But oh no, not them "they were told lies". They need to recognise they were the ones who believed said "lies". Acceptance is the first step to recovery but not some of the ignoramuses above....
Turkeys voting for Christmas.
Not by brexit but Boris .
Zero sympathy for the fishermen - let them starve , they allowed themsleves to be played as fools
How about teaching the
+++BMI Green Peace activitist rules of the road at sea?
Fishing vessels at work has right of way, never mind her hysterical agenda!
I'm pretty sure her skipper is aware of that fact.
Next to that, a BMI of that extensive level makes her a potential danger to herself and fellow crew, which many shipping companies wouldn't accept on their vessels!
The Remainers warned all those who voted for Brexit that the consequences would be burdensome to all . Now it's too late to save the British fishing industry .
I stopped eating sea fish a few years ago. Do the same. Stop the industrial fishing.
To make no go areas dump old cars any thing that cuts and tears nets then you have a protective area old anchors I would sink any illegal fishing boats wreaks are fishing conservation areas
Who owns the factory trawlers? Where are they registered. which part of the British Govt. are monitoring their catches and when can we get the figures of this monitoring. How often are the UK officials boarding and verifying their registered catch figures. NO DATA to back up this Video nor reply from the Ministers.
There English fish and there all the happier for it
Thought green peace would be happy less ships on the water and less pollution. Seems greenpeace and all the remainers want everything imported anyway.
whose vessels are those giants actually? sounds like anon english speaker that one. Are they allowed to operate there?
Brexit is a tutorial in Reality #VotedRemain
Absolutely disgraceful....so angry and upset for the genuine fishermen, the beautiful environment ruined and the damned damned lies.
You want to be angry at "genuine fishermen". They're the ones who were told time and again by me, that your "issues" lie not with the EU but elsewhere because of this, this and this.... "Well i come from a fishing family and you are a moron, you will find this, this and this, Farage, current MEP said this this and this and you're wrong." Right fine, you'll see. And of course they did SMH. Brexit voting fishermen are "absolutely disgraceful" as they're the ones who voted, got us into this mess and are now seeking to blame anyone but themselves.
The genuine fishermen voted at a rate of 93% for Brexit, they sure got what they wanted, congratulations guys. No need to pity a winner!
@@getupstairstobed To be honest with you, I agree with you. It was like turkeys voting for Christmas. Still it's sad that people can be so stupid and so easily fooled by lies.
La pesca debe ser sostenible, es algo que los pecadores gallegos tardaron en entender, pero ahora parece que lo han entendido y como resultado las pesca en nuestras aguas esta en alza. Hace años los pescadores contra la UE por las cuotas y por las vedas, pero hoy los pescadores artesanales son los mayores defensores de las politicas proteccionistas de la UE. Los pesacadores ingleses se olvidaron de muchas cosas, pero sobre todo de que de nada vale pescar, si no hay quien te compre el pescado. Hoy el gran negocio lo haran los importadores de pescado, como ocurre con la pesca de las aguas de Marruecos, lo pescan los marroquis, pero son los importadores españoles los que hacen el gran negocio, pues solo en España el pescado adquiere un alto precio.
Can I begin by being controversial ? in getting products factories invest in machinery, farmers in fertiliser, fishermen only take, they do not put back, fact. Fish like any other living thing need to breed and grow, the return of our waters gave us the perfect opportunity to stop the decline of some species and increase stocks. Firstly our waters are exactly that, no foreign boats should be allowed at all, you bet we'd be excluded if circumstances were reversed. Second, although we have some marine conservation areas they are not ideal for breeding. Fish and other creatures need security and habitat to breed in, we need to provide that habitat. Anyone who knows anything knows you find fish in wrecks in abundance and under oil rigs, where they are also safe from fishing. We should build selected havens around the country by deliberately sinking old vessels in a semi circle from the shore, so that at high water (yes high) no large boat can safely pass. This creates a protective lagoon for other wrecks and artificial reefs, it was done on D Day for Mulberry harbours. Fish of course once grown will leave these areas which will only be beneficial for our fishing industry. Choice needs to be made, put back into your industry or watch it fail, because that is what will happen the course we are on. Current marine conservation areas are like national parks, they help, but are not the whole solution.
Did you see the huge areas that are marked for Marine conservation , there are massive areas and big schemes for sustainability but just no one to police the waters and to make sure other fishermen abide by them. Our boys have always been pretty good at this as they have always known that they must respect breeding and the fishes environments if they are to live and feed their families the next year , The problem is not being short on ideas it's having a government willing to enforce the protection of our waters and to take seriously the future of fishing as an industry. I remember hearing one MP saying that it was such a tiny industry financially it really isn't worth saving anymore. When you have a government with attitudes like that , there really is little hope.
@@HitTheBricks89 Yes I know, out of all of Europe our fishermen respect the oceans the best. Policing waters are not too difficult with satellite assistance (as proof), after all they do it for farmers. Nonetheless UK governments would never scrap or burn foreign boats like other nations do, they have no guts, and that is the only effective deterrent.
When Boris started on about a...deal
I realised he was going to sell us out which he did ....he s a big fat liar
Just watched your show the UK. Fishermen god bless em as 1 Guy said if Greenpeace is there only straw left to clutch at then I'm going with them. Never. Thought. I would agree with a bloke other than save the whales against Japan I'm anti left winger climate change if Australia went total zero it makes buggars all difference when far East countries will not even attempt to reduce there emissions. Keep safe guys Greenpeace gone up in my book. Martin bowskill Australi
What about all the bush fires? You don’t think they are caused buy the changing climate? Maybe everyone should do what they can to lessen the impact on the climate and not just say “nah, others don’t do anything so why should we?”.
I would guess the Ozzie coal industry greases a lot of hand in the government and media?
Sue the anti left winger climate change but your forgot one thing, you are also the worst comment maker in internet. An write, can’t make sentences obviously never heard of punctuation. 🤦♂️🤯🤢🤮
We have to respect the will of fisherman. Perhaps it will be different in next election but now we have to let Tories deliver what fisherman wanted.
The state and the government always serve big business. No matter their rhetoric, no matter their promises, no matter their colour. They are beholden to hedge funds, multinationals, questionable "investment" (e.g. dirty Russian money under Blair and Cameron), and land barons. Unions if we are lucky. (And we are not lucky.) Brexit was a disagreement between hedge funds versus businesses that trade with Europe. The laws and institutions of the state are set up to enforce the sacred principle that money is power. Nothing will change until that idea is challenged, and alternative forms of power developed. The state is the enemy of working people. Do not mistake the concessions, that it is occasionally forced to make, for actual loyalty to the people. That's not who it was set up for and it's not why it continues to exist. It exists to pacify us, one way or another, while we are slowly robbed.
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Fisherman were just useful idiots for the brexthickers. They fell for it hook, line and sinker. So better suck it up.
If you voted for Brexit or Tory you won,we all lost, funny thing is you will vote Tory again in the next election, I bet you havnt even had a word with farage,?
Sorry, but I have little sympathy for these fishermen, they chose to make a decision based on the word of two proven liars, one of whom has been sacked from 3 jobs for lying. They also knew that the UK does not have sufficient resources to police our territorial waters! They will now just have to bring and bear it, like the rest of us.
Zero sympathy for the UK fishermen, I'm tired of people saying they are victims, plenty of ppl told them the truth they chose not to believe remainers
Ah guys! The fishermen must really be desperate to team up with green peace!
They got their Brexit DONE! They need own it and stop moaning!
How can you feel sorry for the fishing industry, when they swallowed the Tories lies on brexit Hook line and sinker. Still what's left are happy fish as they are British. fish
A lot of people are forgetting that the problem started when we first joined the EU (formerly EEC) because we had to give up fishing rights to join up on the first place. The problem isn't Brexit, the problem is that we are still run by Elitists who never wanted to leave in the first place so they are going out of their way to ruin the lives of ordinary working people because it was the ordinary working classes who mostly voted to leave due to the egocentric and greedy nature of those who already have a reasonable level of wealth.
Ever heard of the Cod Wars? When British vessels were been stopped by the Icelanders from overfishing their waters. Why were we fishing there? answer because we had overfished our own waters and been kicked out of Canadian waters for trying to do the same thing. Oh and the Cod Wars happened before we joined the EEC. In the 1930's and before you used to be able to catch tuna off the Yorkshire coast but we fished them out. Check on CZcams and you will find videos about the herring girls who used to follow the herring fleets round the coast of Britain on a seasonal basis. That also came to a halt because we fished out our herring stocks, again before we joined the EEC. The fishing industry in the UK was in a mess before we joined the EEC but people blame the EEC and EU because they needed a focal point to point the finger elsewhere. You can try to rewrite history but the reality is this is a problem going way back long before the EEC came along.
Do keep up with the news because the people who are driving our economic policy are the leaders of the Leave campaign. Those that sold you a fairy story built on lies that you believed. You do know that there are ordinary working classes throughout the EU who all seem to be doing just fine. These are in countries that had to follow exactly the same rules that we did but their businesses and politicians seem to manage just fine. Maybe just maybe you were pointing the finger at the wrong people all along.
@@stephenhodgson3506 For a start the Cod wars and any thing else that was not done ethically does not make what the fishermen did then and what has been going on since right. The point I am making is that each country has set boundaries and that laws should be applied and followed because it is akin to invasion.
Secondly the leaders of the leave campaign were not Brexiteers, they were opportunists and you cannot possibly expect a party, who did not want Brexit, to carry out the wishes of the majority. The party that should have negotiated Brexit should have been either UKIP in it's original form or the Brexit Party. It is not much different to the Labour Party in 1997 claiming to be "No longer the party of Tax!" Leopards do not change their spots and the mainstream parties are now polluted to the hilt by Elitists who will stop at nothing to deny the wishes of ordinary working people who they will never represent. Brexit IS perfectly achievable to anyone that has big enough balls if they desire it!
@@josephhandford6138 It's very interesting that you bring up UKIP. Wasn't the leader of UKIP and one of the driving forces of the Leave campaign one Nigel Farage? The same Nigel Farage you said he was standing up for the fishermen? The same Nigel Farage who was Chairman of the Fisheries commission in Brussels? a position for which he received additional pay and expenses but rarely attended any meetings to actually help the fishermen. The same Nigel Farage who has been silent on the fishermen's plight since we left? The same Nigel Farage along with all his other UKIP EU MP's that now receive a pension from the EU paid for by the UK taxpayers?
What you don't seem to realise if that if those UKIP in its original form had been involved in the negotiations to leave the EU there would have been no agreement because the EU would not have given in to their demands. We would left the EU with no agreement and the pound would have crashed and the working men and women you claim to care about would have suffered as the economy crashed into recession.
@@stephenhodgson3506 Absolute twaddle if you bothered to tune in to anything he says you would know he has continually mentioned the raw deal by our own government or maybe you do know like many elitists who censor and look the other way when they don't want other opinions to be heard. And anyone who knows anything about the way the EU operates knows only too well that individual voices in the EU with the way they vote on anything that nothing would have been done had they been to all of the meetings plus the people needed to know and understand that that was indeed the case. It is why many small businesses went under because of the mountains of red tape that helped the big multinationals who could afford the changes. And why shouldn't they receive a pension as they did far more for ordinary working people than the public school boys who have a more than equal education along with their more than equal job choice and more than equal salaries and more than equal oensions compared to the working classes.
@@josephhandford6138 you have clearly been brainwashed by the likes of Farage the well known commodity broker who got his job through his fathers connections. Farage claims he could have done better but the EU went as far as they were going with the deal we got nobody could have done better. But you won't accept that because you have swallowed all the lies you have been told about the EU.
From your comments you quite clearly don't have a clue how the EU operates but like somebody who bought into a pyramid selling scheme you will never accept the truth because that would mean admitting you were conned. No doubt you still believe the lies that the EU is about to collapse any day now but it never actually happens and even those right wing parties in EU countries have withdrawn any talk of leaving the EU because they have discovered it costs them votes because the people who live in the EU find that the EU actually benefits them.
Over the coming years more and more people in the UK will come to discover that they made a mistake but I doubt you will be one of them.
We're feeding 8 billion humans 3 meals per day. This excludes the 40% of food wasted. Unlimited buffets. 1 billion cows. These situations will only get worse. 80 million more precious humans join us annually. Lastly billions and billions of pets must be fed
Were not feeding 8 billion humans 3 meals a day, thats also a problem.
I no longer support Greenpeace.
Greenpeace isn't going to help you they will follow the factory ship to do nothing Greenpeace is a joke call Seashapord and support them
YOU get what you Voted for....
Vote for the free market Tories and they will remove all controls
Yup listening to charlatans you got that results
Well people voted for tory.
Joke