Brexit three years on: Fishing
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- čas přidán 31. 01. 2023
- On the eve of Brexit, we talked to Ian Perkes who had worked in the UK fishing industry for over 30 years. Although he had voted Brexit in 2015, he had reservations about the future. So, how is it now, three years later?
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Funny how actions come with consequences.
The norwegian deal was offered by the EU and rejected. Btw, the norwegians rejected a membership of the UK in EFTA.
Because they knew Uk would try to undermine them.
Yes the Norwegian Deal was considered as "not Brexit".
I also remember some genius in charge of Brexit (Gove, Davis, I don't know) saying that a good deal is always made at the last minute, thus doing absolutely nothing to prepare the UK for Brexit.
Also, despite the offer, the EU is no longer very interested in such trade deals, because of the problems they have with the Swiss deals.
"Let's go back to as it was". Mindboggling that there are still so many that really think it is that easy.
Yeah, it is not in the UK's power to do so. People have to understand, the EU is the "Big Boss" around here.
In fairness, it'd be a lot easier for fisheries to make a living if UK at least rejoined the single market than....ship further afield, continue with the costly paperwork craziness...fall back into the voting for unicorns on the sunlit uplands.
The man is a simpleton, he voted for rainbows and unicorns - that should inform you of his intellectual capabilities.
@@artnull13 God love him. In fairness, a huge proportion of the British public were conned....and they did live through 40 years of anti-EU propaganda. I can understand them being tricked and I have compassion for it. However, I find it harder to understand ppl who still insist that Brexit is benefitting Britain, those insisting that Boris is a quasi-hero. I've come across a few of those...and I have no words.
@@withcoffey " if UK at least rejoined the single market than"
Single Market is not on the table for the UK. That would mean the EEA/EFTA route. Norway already stated it would veto the UK application. Something to do with being to disruptive.
More than 6 years after the referendum and he still doesn't get it. There is no need for the French (or any Europeans) to be obstinate in making life more difficult for the British as the British have themselves managed to do so very well. This guy (and the one from Glass Eels in Gloucester) was laughing a few years back saying that the Europeans needed the British more than the British needed the Europeans and that Europeans would be begging once Brexit happened. I've been doing my job for the last 23 years, if a politician appeared one day at my work place telling me how I should do my job in order to be more successful, I would tell him to f*** off, yet this man has been doing his job for 47 years and chose to believe the first buffoon that appeared at his work place with no knowledge of neither fishing nor fish industry. It seems that he is not laughing nor being arrogant any longer... Now they want the Norwegian deal which is basically paying to access the market, but not been able to vote nor make decisions. Strange way of taking back control.
If only someone would have warned....Oh wait, someone did.
Project fear is now project here.
Unfortunately there are still millions clinging to their Blue passports covered in sovereignty claiming bexit means brexit whatever that means
Is it though? I mean, the consumer is still getting fish. Fish farms being built in the North as we speak.
The world was going to crumble the morning after the vote apparently.
@@IndiscriminateTV The UK was going to profit hugely immediately after the vote! What happened to that? The majority Can see the damage brexit has done with no definite advantages (the brexers would be screaming them out)!
@Indiscriminate TV without the bank of England intervention it may have...
Now it's the French that are "obstinate"
When he realises that he is to blame and not the EU.
It’s never the fault of those who were gullible enough to vote for Brexit nor the fault of those who were promoting Brexit ie Farage, Johnson, Gove, Patel, Braverman, Davies, Fox, Francois, Rees-Mogg etc
That nobody ever ask "how ? Boris?" Cause we already have free trade; how will things get better for us. Unbelievable; was stupidness or greed ?
Stupidness and greed I’d say
This guy is a very poor businessman as he added a barrier between him and the customer. How could he not see that?
@@leonardbexter6372 only the votes who voted for it, it’s implied but not stated he did.
Mr. Baxter, His largest customers were in Europe. He voted to leave the custom union. Why would he think they would let him trade the same after leaving? If your customers were not with the EU, then Brexit would not affect your business directly and so more understandable.
Because he was only 46 years in this business. How could he know?
Wow, Leonard Baxter, that’s disingenuous deleting the comment. Rather than say ok, I was wrong you oh deleted it. Coward.
The French aren't being "obstinate". They are in business like you and are sourcing their products from a source WITHIN THE SINGLE MARKET AND CUSTOMS UNION where there are no tariffs and red tape. This allows the French fish merchants a LARGER MARGIN when they sell on.
You didn't think it through, did you? Fish brain. 🤔
Yup, always somebody else's fault. I've heard the EU and the French in particular made life difficult for us but, as usual, never get to hear the details. Makes me slightly suspicious that they were not and were just applying the rules of third countries.
Blind nationalism, brexit was obviously going to be a disaster.
@@markshirley01 You're right +1 👍. 🤔
When you see idiots like Johnson and garage, of course the EU will not be willing to negotiate. The EU is in a stronger position than the UK and can source supplies somewhere else. Without the lies and the insults.
Welcome to the Brexit sir, I am sorry.
Wasnt that, what he wanted? I was told, people knew exactly, what they were voting for....
Well, brexit means brexit. The UK cant rejoin on its own will. Thats not possible.
The Uk won't meet the EU standards for aplication any more; like style government 🤣
All it takes to convince Brits is a London bus with a British flag on it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 It’s called Blind Patriotism
A bus with a blatant lie on the side that was debunked on the day it was released.
There was no £350m a week.
To be fair, they only need to convince 37% of the registered electorate
@@col.hertford9855 doesn’t sound fair at all. 1st World democracy?
@@joshslosh2359 we have a theocracy mixed with a banana republic
German (Neoplan) buses can be convincing.
Ha - like many others listened to lies - got greedy and now got karma.
The French are not being obstinate, the UK cannot enjoy the trading arrangements it used to have as an Eu member because it left the club, as such non member rules now apply. Ironically the UK was at the top table helped to write the non EU member trading rules.
What did he think he was voting for?
Unicorns on sunlit uplands....
But at least he is decent and brave enough to tell how it is now, not like many cowards sitting quietly waiting for a miracle.
@@jerryorange6983 Sympathy for the conned?
He wanted to have his fish cakes and eat it.
Less workers rights , less health and safety and less taxes but more money for himself , in other words he was a selfish greedy fool , serves him right .
Im sure Putin also would not invade Ukraine if he knew how bad it would get.
but hey, you wanted brexit. start living with it...
Oh, the USA certainly doesnt have its own fish, just like Japan.
How is it going?
So much winning....
You were told but you believed it was"project fear". When 70% of your market was in Europe how did you think that would continue unaffected?
That figure changes every day with you lot
@@IndiscriminateTV If you say so.
If he has done this for 47 years, how come they couldn't see the obstacles? Why blindly believe Boris, who has no expertise in that industry? Do people not think for themselves?
The french aren't being obstinate, it was obvious this would be a disaster.
It's going to take years to rejoin and our Norwegian friends don't want Britain in that deal so not going to happen.
Britain has to understand they're not going to say that's what we want you get what's given now Britain doesn't have a say anymore and they still think they will just do what they want no thank you
I am a vehicle technician, and I knew what will happen to him.
There is no "going back"
Interesting opinion of a Brexit-voting person, changing slowly his mind BUT, still a Brexiter, thinking it is realistic to sell live fish at the other end of the planet, still complaining about the pesky French but never thinking one minute about "don't do to others what you wouldn't like them to do. The EU is a family with dispute, tensions but also friendship.
Let's hope their next generation wises up someday.
Their/our next generation are and always were wiser. They just weren't eligible to vote. It's worth remembering that, out of a population of 67,000,000 only 17.5 million voted for this stupidity. 2,000,000 of whom were so old they're already dead, several million had seen the quality of their already impoverished lives turn increasingly worse due to successive governments (but especially the Tories) and therefore believed any change would be better than no change, millions almost certainly didn't vote at all 'safe in the knowledge' that leaving the EU was never possible, and the rest are a combination of idiots, racists, conspiracy theorists and the uneducated. All in all, I'd say 10% (or less) of the loudest, shoutiest most foreigner-hating thugs in the UK took the rest of the population on a journey to nowhere. The vast majority are not like them
Unsure if I smell rotten fish or sovereignty..........
Seems like an intelligent fellah... all the more surprising that he believed anything that came out of a privileged narcissist like bojo
Bojo the clown - please address him with his proper title.
The weird thing is, I know of 5 very intelligent people who voted leave. They also thought voting for Bojo as PM was a good idea. It's all very curious and I'd like to talk to them about it, but they've gone rather quiet
@@glennwhitlock1272 kind of makes you question the education system..
@@retroarcade3342 well, absolutely. Especially considering how much money the mummies and daddies of our great leaders spent on the best schools for their offspring
If you after 46 years in business do not understand the basics of how markets work, and immedeately discover the lies of a charlatan like BoJo, I can hardly call that intelligent..
The French obstinate ? You're a 3rd country now out the EU so the rules changed and every EU member hase to follow them .
Norway was the example many Brexiteers gave of a country that the UK could make a better trade deal with after leaving the EU. When negotiations started Norway offered a roll over deal which the UK rejected. They wanted greater access to Norwegian waters or threatened to walk away. Norway called their bluff and walked away first, believing that it would be impossible for the UK to actually set the threats of tariffs which they were right about. The cost to the UK to build facilities and inspect goods would be enormous. The Uk and Norway banned from each other’s waters in the next year hurt the Uk much more, and Norway compensated its fishermen which the Uk did not. After a year the Uk wanted the roll over deal but Norway now wanted concessions, and got them.
You'd vote to go back in tomorrow, but have you asked yourself why would all the EU member states allow you back in?
Why did all the EU member states cry about the UK leaving in the first place? Heads of state were BEGGING the UK to remain. Oh yeah, because the UK was one of the BIG contributors to the EU :)
@@ZyNeEnZyNe Please , write a comment when the 2 neurons you have in your brain start to talk with each other again.
@@angelobucciarelli4848 Oh that's rich considering you clearly were born without a single working neuron...
Since your insult game is weak, how about you come at me with a argument. Keep coping, your leader was still on their knees begging the UK to stay😂😂😂😂
@@ZyNeEnZyNe Again wait that the 2 neurons will start to talk to each other, than write a comment.
@@angelobucciarelli4848 Again, no argument. Don't talk about neurons when you're too dumb to be in this conversation.
Come at me with 1 argument, coward.
What we need is people like this in a live debate with the likes of Mogg, Johnson to expose the utter lies and nonsense they spout.
Yes. I'll watch it eating the same Fish & Chips I was eating 10 years ago 🤣
He was in the debate. He was strongly and loudly supporting Brexit.
He won, get over it
@@bartekpulkowski9765Yes and were a poorer country thank you to people like you you’ve ruined the country so you should be ashamed for making us poorer.Satisfied now.Muppets all of you.🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪😡😡😡😡🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺👿👿👿👿👿👿👺👺👺👺👺
@@DianeD862 ? What are you smoking ?
I am going back to my own country shortly.
I would be useful if brexturds have refunded my tax contributions for last 10 years of hard work.
@@IndiscriminateTV Did you just watch the same clip I did? Did you fully understand what he just said, or are you a candidate for, what is it? Ah yes, idiots Corner? 🙄
No sympathy you got what you wanted I hope uk
never gets back in and why would they let you.🎉
As a Brexiteer, at least we agree on not rejoining in 2023.
I agree with him for the most part... except that the French weren't being obstinate. They treated the UK as a 3rd party country. Which is exactly what we became when we left the EU. Because of the hard-Brexit the Tories wanted and got, France had no choice but to treat us as a 3rd party country. Anything other than that would have been to sacrifice their own sovereignty and the sovereignty of the EU as a whole. Those words came straight out of the right-wing Tory press.
And back to blaming the French. No laws have changed in that regard since the referendum in 2016, this is just the protections of the common market working against you when you put yourself on the other side.
So to save one Boris bus we pay now 10 in lost taxes.
You cannot make that up.
The UK used to be a member of a group where it could enjoy all the facilities and benefits, but this also has costs, now one sees that the benefits outweigh the costs, and is not that the French is making life difficult , all outsiders have to follow the import controls imposed by the EU. The same procedures where done by non EU countries selling to the UK when it was a EU member, so why is the surprise ?
Silly was the one who believed as being out of the Union would enjoy the benefits as the full members do.
You were TOLD !!! But no Farage knew best
Love to know how he voted!!
He voted Brexit
Be careful what you wish for! Despite what Gordon Geko said, greed is not good!
You would think that these effects should have been obvious for someone dealing with international trade. It's baffling how the basics of trade relations somehow eluded this man.
"let's go back to as it was" will never happen. The UK used to have various opt outs from EU rules, such as for example retaining the British pound instead of using the euro and not being part of the Schengen agreement on free movement of people and goods. If the UK would ever want to rejoin the EU it will certainly not be allowed any of those opt outs it used to have. So "back to as it was" will only be a dream from now onwards.
Anyway, which genius thought that the UK would fare better cutting itself of from is main trading partners.....
Who could imagine that with the European Union being the best market for English fishermen, it would be a good idea to leave? Now British fishermen will be able to fish all they want but they will have to convince their people to eat a lot of fish and chips and they will also have to convince his people to pay for hake, turbot, toadfish, bream, sole, crayfish... the price that the French and Spanish paid, by the way someone should have also told the English fishermen that Spain is the second largest consumer per capita in the world and now our largest supplier is Morocco....
You just love to see it
Oh dear. So sad. Never mind.
You made life difficult for yourself!!!not france or whoever the enemy of the week may be
I never understood how these fishermen sided with Farage whilst he gloated that he never turned up to EU meetings that decided the future of the fishing industry.
What a f.... MESS!
I feel so sad for people like this who's businesses have been ruined along with the British economy, by the bare faced lies of the leave campaign.
Outside EU its cold I feel sad for british
Jeez!!!so exhausting.you won,get over it.
Buyers regret ??
I get the impression he voted to leave, so I've no sympathy for him.
He did, Boris convinced him.
@@flitsertheo which baffles me, Boris is so obviously a con man, yet seemingly intelligent people fall for his lies.
Unicorn at work.....!!!!
The UK got out of the single market, slamming the door and yelling. Now they realise that being outside a house is different than being inside. “It’s cold out here!”. You have been warned multiple times, lads. It’s not that we are damaging you, you did it yourselves, this is only a logical consequence of being just another non-EU country like India or Brazil.
Gloating is one of the most enjoyable Brexit benefits.
Northern Ireland have no problem sending fish to E.U. but oops this is what the DUP want what this gentleman is sawing.
We have a free trade deal with Europe, no taxes no quotas FREE.
The added checks that the EU insisted on has driven there own costs up. Big supermarkets had the paperwork sorted from day 1..
Small businesses had to learn fast how to fill it in correctly.
Anyone serious on trading across the chanel has everything sorted now.
Brixham fish market is doing very well as are the fishermen.
Check out the Irish fleet the EU are paying them to crush 30% of there boats just so the French can keep catching the same amount following.
Brexit.
Not lying Geoff .
Is it rude to laugh?
Put a British flag on the edge of a cliff saying freedom this way and watch what happens 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The failed Opportunist. You should see the paperwork I have do to get a Visa to travel to Britain. That's what the British government requires there is no other solution I accept it and just get on with it.
GREEDY
it is all about the bus now blame the bus hahahaa
Its what they wished for their French wnd other eu colleagues. I can’t feel very sorry for then
The guy's company has about another 3 to 4 years left if nothing changes. Normally I'd wish him good luck, but I really have no sympathy for anyone who voted for Brexit.
Surely they got what they voted for
The French make it hard? You are out!!! And the Thing is, as soon you realize it can't work, you want to go back into the Club. IT is this english "superiority" and arrogance shining through. This : I want, I deserve, I am British.
Loving the WEF/EU lovers on this channel.
Does WEF stand for We Eat Fish because I know what EU stand for?
Oh bless......you types can barely read or write let alone understand what the WEF 😂😂😂
@@markmoran916 bless.. you types are so out of touch with reality you actually thought we would end up Remaining in the EU 🤣
@@kevonslims7269 the future of fishing is fish farms anyway 🤣
@@Dan.Dawson Dan lad......I note you didn’t address the point I made about you not understanding what the WEF is......but well done for commenting on something I didn’t mention 🙄
What has nip got to do with shipping from UK. He still wants to move further away from Europe cos he got some small sales in Arab states. How did pple not think that costs were going to go up for shipping. The govnt no longer wanted to pay the weekly amount to EU that made everything easier for the UK. The only way that was going to be covered was for individuals to pay that price which is exactly what has happened. You see the world had changed a lot while we were in the EU. The other thing is we also lost a lot more than money. Roaming call fees back in etc. So Scots and NI'sh cld see this but little englanders and Welsh cldnt. Hmm says a lot about awareness and education in the countries that make up uk. Oh by the way, which is no longer United.
You won get over it.
Sorry Remainers. But a bit of Haddock won't make us Rejoin 🤣
Now... off to the Chippy for me..Fish & Chips for lunch....
That haddock has probably been caught by a Norwegian ship.
When was the last time we heard France or Germanys opinion on the world stage? Before Russia invaded Ukraine. Ursula is now the mouthpiece.
But it's just a "trade deal" 🤣
They regularly speak
You don't keep up with international affairs. What Macron says is vert important. What an EU bureaucrat says is taken on board.
@@fredfish4316 nonsense
Another example of Boris's reassurance that after "Getting BREXIT done, this country will prosper mightily" and of course our little fish are happy little fish.