Stryd Footpod 1000 Mile Review
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2019
- I've been running with the Stryd footpod Power Meter for Running since January for a total mileage of over 1,000 miles. These are my final thoughts.
Disclosures: the Stryd footpod was purchased with my own money. No financial consideration was exchanged or offered for the making of this video. No one knew that I was making this video, and no one will have any editorial control over the content of this video.
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Before you purchase a stryd foot pod, know this … My stryd is less than two years old and won’t hold a charge. When I contacted stryd to get the battery replaced, I was told they couldn’t do that and that I would have to buy a new foot pod. However, they were “generously” going to give me a 35% discount on a new foot pod. I asked them “Why in the hell would I buy a new one when you guys wouldn’t even stand behind my current one?” I’m not saying everyone will experience the same battery issue I am experiencing, but you need to be aware that they do not have a good system in place to address that situation when it does occur. It’s just incredible to me that they can’t swap out a battery and charge me some fee for that instead of requiring me to buy a whole new unit. Incredibly disappointed in their customer support.
Can you please make one video where you show how your personal bests have been since you started running!
Also some of the mistakes you wish you had not made as a beginner.
Maybe. It seems like a good thing to do when I'm done running completely.
@@kofuzi Hopefully CZcams will still be around in 40+ years.
@@kofuzi Favorite warm winter shoe for running/walking?
Excelent video mate! I’ve just got mine and I’m going out to give it a crack today with my Suunto 9 watch. Thanks for the insights and explanations on how it works 🤩😎👍🏻
Great video on the challenges and quirks on the transition into using power for racing or training. I’ve also used Stryd since January but haven’t raced a marathon with it yet. The longest being a hilly half marathon where I got a suggested race power of 232W, finished with an average of 233W and a HM PR by 7 mins and course PR by 20 mins. In my use of the pod, I discovered that it starts recording once you start moving but doesn’t stop collecting data even when you stop moving until it’s been idle for an extended period or the environmental sensor detects a drastic change in elevation-such as removing the pod from your shoe and placing it on the kitchen counter. The gaps in GPS mapping does indicate device connection dropouts but the distance should still be accurate or very close to accurate. In my experience, the dropouts happen when I run with my phone, with and without BT earphones. I wear my pod on the foot opposite my wrist where I have my Apple watch and connection still drops out, interestingly, in the same segments on my routes. I don’t know if you’ve noticed the same on your Strava route maps. Oh, and even though Stryd ships with a charging cradle, the pods are actually Qi-compatible.
that is a great improvement for your half marathon time!
I've had the same experience with Stryd support. Some of the best support folks I've ever had to interact with.
right?
Thanks for making this. I was interested in getting it as I am starting my training for Chicago.
gps is a problem at the beginning of the chicago marathon, due to bridges. the footpod will be useful to help gauge pace, especially because everyone will be super excited in those beginning miles. it's very easy to run too fast at the outset
kofuzi I know because I did that last year.
Interesting gadget.Love data and accuracy.Need to give it a try.Thanks.
it's an interesting, albeit expensive, experiment
This review mirrors my experience almost perfectly. The connection issues are extremely frustrating. The Bluetooth seems almost like a beta product that's not ready for market. And yet, I wouldn't want to run with out Stryd anymore. It's just too simple and convenient to have one power number that somehow accounts for elevation, effort, speed and heart rate in a single number. I ran a half marathon race following my target power number as closely as I could, passed the finish line feeling great, and PR'd. I'm happy to continue reaping the benefits of Stryd while they work on the next version.
That's a good way to look at it. It's not perfect, but it's pretty darn good in the meantime
Using a Stryd for a year now. I quickly dropped the running by power after the novelty wore off. While it does help to pace yourself going up or downhill, on flat courses running by pace just comes more naturally to me.
Addressing two things you mentioned:
1. Charger: You can use pretty much any Qi-charger from iPhones/Watch, Samsung, what have you.
2. Connection: The pod records whenever you move, so a connection drop does NOT stop it from recording. Just sync from the App (runner icon - Sync offline), and delete the file your watch recorded (or you end up with two sets of data for one run skewing analysis heavily). As for holding connection, the pod does seem to work much better with dedicated sports watches from Polar or Garmin (it works flawlessly on my Vantage, and 935 via Ant+) than say an AW4 you seem to be using.
You're right, their support is amazing, forums offer a wealth of information, and their mods are well instructed.
In the end, I prefer to run with it rather than without because instant pace is kinda hit and miss with these days' low power consumption GPS chips in densely built cities, and with a Stryd my instant pace is always spot on (after calibrating it on a track).
phl0w How does the power compare to the Vantage’s on wrist power? And how do you like the Vantage versus the 935?
@@ericsisk1 Unfortunately there's no standard for Power, so you cannot compare the values. Also, the Vantage draws its power reading from the built-in barometric sensor (like Garmin does when there is no foot pod connected), which I don't have much confidence in. Pairing the Stryd to both the Vantage (via BT), and 935 (via Ant+) both watches show the exact same reading, naturally.
The 935 is the better watch in every regard. Unless you have years of training in Flow and want to stick to it, there's no reason to get the Vantage over the 935. I prefer Flow to GC but use TP, and Runalyze anyway.
phl0w Thanks for the reply!
Hmmm. That's an interesting fix for dropped connection runs. But it sounds like a lot of steps. It should just do that automatically. The data is there, it seems
@@kofuzi It is quite cumbersome, I have to admit, because there are a annoyances. First of all you get the pod's raw data, any breaks (traffic lights, stretching, resting, getting out of the house, back into it et cet.) count towards your total time (influencing avg. pace/power), there is no moving time without a watch that pauses the recording of the file. That also means you don't get calibrated data, which can differ quite a bit if your Stryd is one of the less accurate (like mine, uncalibrated about 5% on the slow side). Second of all, you have to set up Powercenter to sync to your training platform (TP, Strava, FS, 2Peak, FS, and TodaysPlan support that) but don't forget to disconnect or it will export every run from then on, which leaves you with two copies of your workouts when your watch synchronizes. Third, and most painful of all: Synchronizing offline means the pod sends ALL of its data to the platform, i.e. all your runs since the last memory flush, leaving you -again- with multiple copies of all those runs, in the process ruining your training log unless you go through them one by one and get rid of superfluous files.
I am really impressed with Stryd's algorithm; it is a great help in pacing runs up to 20 miles, especially on undulating routes. However, their claim that "You never hit the wall when you pace with power" is absolute tosh. I still need to take on calories to run past 20 miles, and Stryd doesn't make it any easier to eat or drink on the move without feeling ill. I completed a marathon without stopping or walking for the first time ever (after almost 30 years of trying), but I was barely jogging the last few miles. Still, I credit long training runs paced with Stryd for making the achievement possible.
You think they're claiming you never need to eat or drink ever again once your using power? Sometimes common sense prevails
@@benjaminberlin of course, this guy measures volume in distance, not time.
Thank you for this detailed review!! do you recommend the paid monthly stryd subscription? especially if I don't need the training plans... any additional metrics that the paid sub. provide?
The stryd does record all the time regardless if connected to a watch. My stryd isn't connected to anything. Have you tried performing and offline sync by going into the app on your phone and selecting record them offline sync. You'll be surprised what it will transfer over. Hope that helps
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Great review, thanks!
I have had the same bluetooth connection issues with stryd and the apple watch series 4. Stryd have suggested switching off bluetooth on the iphone when taking it along for a run... I have been doing this and seems to have solved the connection issue between the footpod and the apple watch!!
It also means I can't listen to music, a problem I've resolved by activating cellular on the watch and subscribing to Apple Music. I just don't carry the phone anymore
@@kofuzi How is it going now? I have the Series 6, I normally don't run with the phone but when I do I want to take calls on my Airpod Pros. As I increase my distances I will want the phone with me more. Did they improve this or is is a limitation of BTLE?
A great review! Seems like Stryd was of some benefit keeping your effort fairly consistent throughout the marathon. Anyway, a couple of small points- Apple’s Bluetooth implementation on Apple Watch only allows for 2 simultaneous connections. That might explain some of the dropouts. Also, the footpod does collect data even if it’s not being displayed on the watch. You can manually sync the data from the footpod to your Stryd account after you finish the run. That said, I’m not sure if doing so would have overwritten the faulty data caused by the dropouts.
Someone else has suggested that the manual sync will solve my problems.
Something else I've noticed is that connection will drop if I go by a particularly strong sliding door or automatic door sensor
kofuzi Bluetooth is a relatively weak signal (by design to be low power). It only extends 30 feet in the best of conditions and can be easily interrupted by electromagnet interference or body parts.
Why is your right arm stiff holding in one position?
Awesome video!
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Hey Kofuzi and Thanks for this video. Quick question for an issue that I'm dealing with, do you use the Garmin and apple watches during the same run, but you only have the Stryd Pod connected to your apple watch? I have the Stryd pod for some time now and I still use it through my Iphone or apple watch and for some reason I still didn't add it to my Garmin Fenix watch... maybe just to see and compare both metrics, distance and pace between Garmin and stryd
Thanks for this. You mainly focused on your in-run experiences. I agree that having a realtime power number is helpful, especially during hill workouts. Did you use the device to build race-specific training plans? I've only had my pod for about 2 months and I want to try this feature out. I'm curious to know if you think this can improve your regular training plans. By the way, I use the fr235 and haven't had any connection issues.
i didn't use it to build any race-specific training plans. for my last marathon training block, my training plan consisted of weekly mileage goals only.
I use Stryd for three things:
- deadly accurate pace and distance. Your little GPS watch is not accurate. My main reason I will continue using the Stryd.
- any speed work. It's instant.
- any race that has hills. Takes the guesswork out of the effort needed.
For easy and long runs. I'll still use pace and HR.
Oh, you can also use it on the treadmill with Zwift app.
I use a Suunto watch. No issues with blutooth.
BTW I use offline sych to upload the run.
won't accurate pace and distance be an issue if you lose connections the pod?
@@levon9 yes.
My only caution on pace and distance accuracy is to verify (like on a track). I have had 2 pods, and the first pod was spot on, the 2nd pod off by 3%. Once I calibrated, no issues with the 2nd pod. Stryd's website indicates that it should be accurate as received, but through e-mails with Stryd, that isn't true in all cases.
@@mechadriver5088 Yup always at my local HS track. Inside lane.
@@KennyPang If you want total accuracy, see fellrnr.com/wiki/Stryd#Calibrating_Stryd.
Definitely got a few thousand miles on mine. Awesome tool.
How to export the stryd power data to Strava if I’m using a Garmin 935 to record my runs?
Love the Garmin products
a good brand
Why do you run through water whenever you can? I'm very curious because I would think most do the opposite. Very curious to hear your response.
Lovely videos. New runner, and new subscriber. Curious - what are you using to get the footage at say 3:45? I saw this even in your socks video. I cant see what is holding the camera.
Just in case you haven’t found the answer in the past five months...it’s a 360 camera. They automatically remove the selfie stick from the video. Super cool gadgets that allow you to film yourself without making it look like your filming yourself. 😁
@@imterribee thanks. I did see his reviews on this.
Did you used it with apple watch or garmin? When you run in cold weather, how do you protect your watch from cold and avoid a battery shut down? Any tips here?
Thanks for the great review! I’ve been using the Stryd for only a few days and I’ve been comparing the distance it gives to the distance I get with GPS. For example, I ran 8km according to the Stryd and only 7,4km according to GPS. Is such a huge difference normal?
That sounds like a huge difference but can be possible if gps reception is bad and/or the route has a lot of turns.
I’ve not heard of this before but it sounds interesting !
i like having that power number.
Thank you for this long-awaited review! I’m really intrigued by this little thing and have a few questions if you don’t mind: Regarding pace setting while running up- and downhill, is the power meter a much better indicator than the heart rate (from your perspective)?
You stated the accuracy especially in urban environments; how much more accurate is it while in a city / in “nature” in comparison to the GPS of your Apple Watch or phone (#all_metrics)? (Connection issues aside)
I think you didn’t use the integrated running plans, but did you had a glance at them and can determine their “quality”?
Off topic questions:
I saw you ordered the Boston 8. Did you run with the Boston 7 (couldn’t remember seeing that video nor find one from you), since it’s currently on sale and of the few good Adidas shoes (according to reviews)?
With Zoom Fly Flyknit and the Turbo successors around the corner, do you think it’s (still) worth getting them [again, they are on sale (I’m a student ^^)]? I’m especially interested about the durability of the Zoom Fly Flyknit; they looked good in your videos. Would you recommend them as a fast trainer?
I hope I don’t ask too much of you and your time. 🙈
P.S.: Review wishlist: NB FuelCell Rebel :)
i don't train with HR, so I can't comment on that.
i think the stryd is more accurate than gps generally. i've been out in the middle of nowhere where there's no cell reception. the gps tracings can sometimes be quite inaccurate.
i didn't really look at the training plans, except where stryd can give guidance on what speeds/power you should be running for threshold runs vs intervals vs easy runs. i didn't train by any of those recommendations, but I considered them as indicators of progression of fitness.
i didn't run with the Boston 7. i stayed away primarily because of the name of the shoe (and i don't like shoes named after cities generally), but i am drawn to it because of my positive experience with the adios 4.
zoomfly flyknit is highly durable, for a nike shoe. i anticipate that the changes will be in the upper and a faster drying material. if you are looking to save some money, getting the last year's model will be a very good option, but I can't make that decision for you.
kofuzi Thank you very much! Of course you can’t; I’m just really satisfied with the near perfect fit of the Flyknit of the Epic React for my low volume feet and in need of a fast shoe; your response may be decisive for that purchase.
Very interesting. Thank you. You say you ran with the Stryd pod on your commutes all through winter, and I was wondering if it ever shut down on you from the cold?
nope! the thing was indestructable!
and while technically not waterproof or splashproof, i've been getting this thing crazy wet!
(stryd has reached out to me to advise that standing in running water, like a shallow river or stream, would be a problem)
@@kofuzi Nice! I wonder if the newer wind Stryd is as tough... if the wind detection is through an external sensor of sort or a hole in the casing, then maybe water would be more of a problem? Anyway, thanks again.
Do we need to have ftp test on using power on training like cycling? I am a roadie, it looks like similar concept
Hi there, I was just wondering which GoPro you used to film this video? And which one out of the cameras would you recommend? (GoPro and the insta360 one x)
hero 7 black
the one i recommend is the one that you think delivers a better overall final result.
Great vid - I am definitely interested in this device. Congrats on the BQ.
I’ve never used a GoPro but I assume you’re filming yourself using a selfie stick. How come the stick is never visible in the shot? I’m just watching this on a phone screen so there’s not a ton of detail, maybe that’s it.
He is using a 360 camera. The 360 camera can hide the selfie stick when it is stitching the two halves of the 180 degree images (front and back of the camera) together
@@bestwl cool tech! Thanks for explaining this.
I know this is an old video but I'm curious your long term thoughts on stryd. I've been using it 100% since they released the new version with wind. I get inconsistent distances a lot.. Even when calibrated. A 7.5 mi course I run is measured to that with Google Earth and stryd comes in 7.47 to 7.52. The other day it showed 7.1. Even out and back courses gives different distances. I did a test... Walking up a 200m hill and walking down it.. I found downhill was always quite a bit shorter, which leads me to believe if your stride changes your Stryd will be off. I've tried talking to them but get nowhere.
Do you still use it? I have Stryd wind and thinking about getting the new gen Stryd that’s coming out November 2022
Hi Kofuzi,
Just back tracking over your vids of stryd pods and wondering if you impressions has chanced? Your vids are like a massive archive of useful running info!!! 😀
Are you still using it regularly? Or do you find modern watches are giving you some of the data that the footpod gives you? Would love your feedback as considering wether they are still worth getting? I’ve got a garmin 945 lte. Cheers
I still use it daily. I think the key thing that Stryd does that wrist based power can't deliver is the updating of critical power. it's important as it helps determine the power ranges for workouts.
at least, as far as I know, Polar and Coros aren't doing as good a job of calculating critical power.
@@kofuzi thanks so much for getting back to me! Great advice as normal. I know what to spend my Xmas money on now!! 😀
Can't get any of the functionality Kofuzi shows. Is the problem my Garmin 235? What model must I have to see the real time power outputs and post run charts he's showing. can't reach the Stryd company today for answers.
Great video, as usual. Thanks for sharing! I have a question, though: I use a Polar V2, which also measures power. Would the Stryd be redundant? Also, it seems like the Stryd is best when used with the paying Stryd membership ($9.99 a month). That's kind of a bummer. Any thoughts anybody? Thanks again!
Have you considered checking the Polar vantage v, which already includes power meter?
I have. I am a little skeptical about a wrist based power measurement, but I'm willing to test it out.
I tried to reach out to Polar and Suunto at the same time several months ago. Suunto responded and so I'm currently testing the Suunto 5.
Great stuff. Garmin has one that you clip on your waist, but doesn’t seem to collect the power data, which seems to be the highest value of this type of device. Certainly on my list, but will probably wait more competitors to come to help driving the technology up and price down...
Many watches are beginning to incorporate a wrist based alternative. But I'm skeptical
@@kofuzi The biggest issue with the wrist based offerings is that they are using the GPS live pace to derive the power number. As GPS pace is often unreliable then the same will apply to any generated power number.
S Brads I believe the Vantage V is also using the barometer to compute elevation change and may even be using the accelerometer+gyroscope to measure cadence and a few other variables. That said, the arm is not directly related to the kinetic chain of the legs, so it makes it more difficult to compute leg power.
@@RunningOtaku Agreed on all of that. The wrist based accelerometers are improving all the time and may be useful for smoothing out some GPS links but I'd have little confidence in the accuracy. Definitely an area for future innovation. In an ideal world a single device on the wrist would capture all the data.
Nice race!
Thanks!
A quick question on the power metric: do you know what unit(s) the power meter measures in? Only power meters I’m familiar with are for cycling and they measure in watts, the numbers your putting up are in the same ranges that cycling requires so I would think so but was just wondering if it specified anywhere
It's watts. but for something like this, I think it's probably more helpful to think of them as unitless - only relevant within the same stryd scale.
kofuzi awesome thanks for the quick response!
How's power accuracy on more challenging surfaces like snow, sand, mud, grass, or technical routes in general. Or on windy days with a mix of headwind and tailwind?
I'm not sure what you mean by accuracy. When I have to work harder, it reflects a higher power number. Are you asking if I'm really exerting 240 watts when if I'm actually exerting 250 or 230?
Stryd does not account for wind either way so on days like this you might hit the same power number going in different directions but your pace and effort will not be the same. I've found the power number good for grass and steep runable climbs, I mainly use the figure as a metric for moderating effort particular on uphills.
I mean how does it know you're working harder in those situations, since all it knows is how fast your feet are moving, and not what the conditions are like
@@googleboughtmee The really short answer is it won't know you're working harder. You'll be putting out the same "power" but the relative effort to do so will be higher.
On snow or soft sand it shows too little watts
Just received my Stryd power meter and super excited to use it for upcoming marathon - have a few new user questions looking for gudiance from experienced users.
Q1: Regarding pairing - any Garmin users (i.e. FR 935) under settings > sensors and accessories > it's picking up both FP - Stryd (which allows Off / Indoor / Always) and also PWR -12345 (Calibration Prompt / Calibrate). Should both sensor items be active?
Q2: I'm noticing that my Garmin Connect pace/distance via GPS is completely off vs the Stryd app - is this because I've set my FP - Stryd speed/distance to always this the discrepancy?
Q3: @kofuzi how do you manage to show avg wattage in your daily runs via Strava? Understand you're using Apple Watch, is this feature disabled for Garmin watches?
I think avg power is a data field that gets exported to strava. I'm currently using stryd with Apple Watch and iRunSmooth
Is there any benefit of using the stryd compared to the Garmin run heartrate monitor? Other then the watts readings
i suppose that would require a broader discussion of power ratings generally versus heart rate training generally. and i'm not equipped for such a discussion
I've found the main benefits to be highly accurate distance and pace compared to GPS, especially when on trails. Accurate "live" pace which is usually totally unreliable on a GPS watch. Be careful what device you are using, some can be set to auto calibrate Stryd which can defeat the purpose of obtaining more accurate data if it is being calibrated from a poor GPS figure. Better to leave it un-calibrated or if possible complete this manually at a track.
I did a comparison video of Stryd vs HR training while doing a structured workout and went into a detailed discussion on how various factors can effect the performance of each.
Yes. I've used both. Stryd is much better.
There a problem that there is no standard for inferring running power in the field as opposed to a treadmill with a pressure plate. Garmin comes up with a substantially higher number than Stryd. There is a similar magnitude so that if you go harder, Garmin and Stryd will both increase the number. Garmin's number seems similar-ish to Stryd if you combine power (watts used to make you go forward) and "form power" (watts used to keep your body upright). Unlike cycling, running power is not mature enough that you can compare watts from one sensor to another. It's actually estimated watts, in the same way that a watch might give you an estimated VO2Max from Firstbeat algorithms and that is not 100% the same as a lab VO2Max test.
In any case the real issue is that the main input to calculate power for both is pace and Garmin uses GPS while Stryd uses its 9-axis sensor and dead-reckoning algorithm to determine instantaneous pace and distance. The stryd method of determining pace and distance is substantially more accurate than GPS -- especially over short distances. GPS is not adequately precise for an accurate 5-sec pace, which you will notice if you ever add the "current pace" field to your watch. As a result, the Garmin power number bounces around wildly in the same way that "current pace" does and there is no option to add 3-sec or 5-sec or 10-sec smoothing other than the "lap power" option from a separate CIQ app or the combo power app. You can improve the Garmin power stability using a Garmin (or other) footpod or (with better results) a Stryd. The main advantage of Garmin Power is that it is free if you happen to have the right watch and accessories. It is most useful as something to try out to see if training with power seems at all useful to you, but it is hard to use in practice.
Stryd has three advantages:
1. The Stryd website and app have a lot of analytics, guidance, and synthesis of the power data that makes it actionable. Garmin offers none of this. You can get somewhere with Golden Cheetah but it is very complex and if you already are invested in power enough to know how to use Golden Cheetah, you will not be happy with Garmin Power. You need Stryd or maybe Runkeeper.
2. The Stryd pod gives you the best available speed and distance as well as current pace when combined with any running watch that supports Stryd. The pace and distance is not affected by GPS interference in big cities or mountains. This may be more useful than the actual power numbers.
3. The Stryd data field is more mature than Garmin and offers configurability of "smoothing". Stryd also regularly upgrades the firmware to improve the reliability of the power number.
Hey man. Sorry to be off topic but I wanna ask you some questions about your experience with the GoPro 7 Black. I am a casual runner and thinking of starting to record my runs once in a while and currently looking to purchase my first action cam.
I've been doing research on it and it looks like there's issue with the battery life. Have you had any issues like this?
Does the GoPro7 Black support a 128gb SD card?
I saw in your past videos that you use a camera clip as a handle for the GoPro During your runs. Do you think that it is necessary to have that or can I just hold on the camera directly while shooting and not have any issues?
I know you are using the insta360 right now. I don't think that one is for me and I am not ready to run with a selfie stick yet.
I prefer the clip because otherwise it is really easy to get the webbing of your hand in the frame and/or get sweat on the lens.
I've only used a 64gb card.
I've never bought an extra battery for a GoPro. Only issues I've had are when temps drop below the freezing point, but I don't think that's a GoPro issue per we.
@@kofuzi Thanks for the reply, man. I appreciate it.
Good to hear that you never had issues with battery life and such.
GoPro7 black is on sale right now so I might just go ahead an pull the trigger. Thanks, again.
Great review! What is the song used at the start?
Tei- oyyy
Nico Venturoso Thank you so much!
The Garmin foot pod seems to work that way, even if not connected to your device it still gathers it
Do you base your training on power, i.e. percetage of Stryd'd calculated CP?
i do not. currently training by HR.
i still run with the footpod every day though
Is this good for Treadmill running.
How many runs or milage would you say did before you started getting some useful data? Like the power number were you felt comfortable relying on it for a race. Cheers!
It will tell you for a while in the app that it needs more data. I think it took over 30 days for it to stop saying that. But I think I wouldn't feel comfortable with the numbers it gave me until I also had a range of activities and effort levels.
Thanks for the info!
Good review, tho.
I've using it with a Polar watch, it's Ok with it. You run a lot faster than me, I hope I can run at that pace very soon.
Could you tell me how you record your races?
Thanks man, take care ;)
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kofuzi Thanks man 😉👍
I have Milestone Pod which I thought it will be useful especially for treadmill sessions. But to get it to works, it needs series of outdoor runs and calibrated based on GPS data. On some days, milestone pod works like a charm however on other days, it didn't. I wonder if you can compare Stryd with Milestone Pod for its' data accuracy and consistency. I have been planning to get Stryd. Although it can be delivered to my country, Malaysia, it doesn't have the same warranty coverage - I have to send it back all the way back to the States if there's any problems.
I owned a Milestone before shelling out for a Stryd. There's simply no contest between the two. The MP always had to be re-calibrated, and still wouldn't show correct instant pace. Changing cadence would influence pace, which made it highly inconsistent. I ditched it after a few runs because it would never show the correct distance on my daily route, despite countless calibrations. The running mechanics it collected were sketchy as well, because they require the pod to be in a very specific spot, that changes from shoe to shoe, and needs a lot of trial and error before for instance it gets foot strike right. Stryd's data otoh is very consistent and unless you need 100% correct instant pace, a Stryd pod out of the box is accurate to about 2% (98-102%). I mean, a Stryd is like 6 times the milestone, but you get access to their Powercenter, it offers quite interesting analytics, and insights after each run (metabolic endurance, muscular power et cet.) and how to improve in different areas of physiology. Not to mention tailored free training plans.
@@phl0w666 Excellent feedback. Thanks for that. Yes, I agree with everything you have said about MP.
The Stryd pod does a great job of handling treadmill workouts. You don't have to change anything about your configuration on a Garmin -- just start a Treadmill Run -- and if the Stryd is on your shoe it just works. The main difference is the GPS is turned off with Treadmill Run and Indoor Run.
I did eventually calibrate my Stryd because it is quite consistently 1% short on distance. You definitely don't have to calibrate it in order to get consistent and useful data, though.
I live in Southern Africa and have had my Stryd for a year without a problem, including trail running. It seems to be a robust little gadget.
phl0w i think you are almost an expert in stryd. Calibration i think that it is a problem, using Apple Watch there is no mean to calibrate it or i am missing something. Thank you
interesting review. one suggestion, when you put text on the screen could you please leave it up a little bit longer? I can barely read it before it's gone, thanks
most of the times, the text is just bad dadjokes.
@@kofuzi lol
The stryd will continue to collect data if it drops out with your watch. You can sync the pod to the stryd app and get all the data
...with all your MAF have you found that your power zones either seem too low or too high? Stryd recommend to have accurate power zones training should be a mixture of long (1hr+), medium (10-20 mins race pace) and sprints (30s max effort)...I just do MAF and my CP is 329w 🤷♂️ easy is 213-263.
The connectivity issue is why I'm going to have Stryd connect to my Garmin Fenix 6X, and my headphones will connect to my Apple Watch or iPhone for music & emergency calls.
i reached out to Stryd about connection issues since mine seems to randomly drop once or twice a week also with my forerunner 935. they mentioned doing very integrated testing on this exact issue so hopefully it's fixed sooner than later.
fingers crossed!
Are you using the Stryd with the Polar watch?
Yes, these days
Looking for a shoe for setting 3 mile PR’s currently running 19 min on the turbos, any recommendations?
Zoom streak 7. Carbon rocket.
Or depending on surface, some cross country spikes.
...having only used Stryd for pacing and distance accuracy I'm beginning to get more interested in power as a metric. This review has given me the push to begin with power. For me, I'm just not sure what it will mean if I'm using the Stryd widget on my Garmin watch, will Garmin still import all my run data into its ecosystem or will I now be exclusively working within Stryd's ecosystem? Does that question make any sense? Perhaps there's a Stryd power data field I can use? Apologies, not sure I'm making much sense, I just don't know how to articulate what I'm concerned about if I'm using Stryd power app on my watch, I've been so used to using the stock Garmin activities and using Stryd to override the watch in terms of pace, distance ...
I think the only thing that you lose by pairing stryd is that pace and distance will come from Stryd and not garmin gps.
But you don’t have to leave the garmin data ecosystem. You just get a new data field.
@@kofuzi ...makes sense, and I'm comfortable with pacing and distance coming from the footpod, I use that today. I guess it's the data field I am interested in, I'll check Garmin connect and see if I can find the power data field and at that...is that what you did?
@@kofuzi wow, ran with the power data field - amazing...ok , now in data gathering mode for the next few months to understand what it means for me in similar running scenarios you've outlined 👍🧘♂️👊
Does The powernumber actually show on The watch? On all compatible watches?
yes. you may have to configure a data field to show the power number.
stryd support has a list of all compatible watches
Does the power metric adjust depending on temperature and humidity as well?
insofar as your body may have to work harder in hotter and more humid conditions, yes. but as far as i know, it doesn't to a pre-adjustment or pre-evaluation of your efforts based on ambient conditions
I'm having connection issue too between stryd and my iPhone 8. It's like disconnects 30% of the time, pretty frustrating.
that's a lot of the time. have you tried contacting stryd support? they're pretty responsive.
Have you tried using heart rate data instead of power? Would love to compare HR data with a chest strap to a foot pod device
I have not
James The main difference I noticed was the power figure is super responsive. Where the hr has a slight delay, even with a strap. I really liked Stryd but the pod is in a drawer now as HR zones seem good enough for me and if I can’t find chest strap, still work ok-ish off wrist data.
@@paulbarton957 Good to know! I guess the pod being on the foot it's almost instant feedback. I use a chest strap with my Garmin watch almost exclusively now. The wrist based heart rate is ok, but I noticed a significant difference with the chest strap when doing intervals and tempo workouts. The chest strap is much more accurate.
I also plan to try the Garmin power app off the connect store, as I've heard this can translate HR to watts... Out of curiosity
HR and power are really complimentary. They should eventually stabilize on the same zone. The issue is that HR is relatively slow to respond to effort and also drifts slowly upward over the course of a workout or race. Power, by contrast, is nearly instantaneous.
Think of it his way: power is a direct measurement of the current intensity of effort while HR is indirect.
Having used both, HR is more than adequate in most situations. I find power is most useful for interval training. I'm not sure I'm sold on watts as being transformative for running. I find the very reliable and accurate pace and distance is the biggest benefit of the Stryd. I also like the "Improve" tab on their web analytics platform which recommends types of workouts to help your weaknesses. I have found the "metabolic skill" score to be a good objective judge of fitness -- much better than Strava's fitness and freshness curve, for example.
How about pairing the stryde with the new 945 forerunner?
I've not tried that
It works
I've used a power meter on my bike for awhile now (where you really can't count on speed to be a good indicator of effort), but I didn't think a running power meter would be very useful (since you can go by pace). Thanks for highlighting the usefulness of this during e.g. trail runs or runs with more elevation where you can't rely on pace. 👍
i don't think it's something that everyone needs, but i'm glad to have the data it provides
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Do you find the pace accurate? I can’t believe it’s more accurate out or the box than gps.
I do
I use Stryd with my Garmin 735xt and it also loses connection sometimes during my runs. Even with ant+ which is the only option with the 735
interesting. i had been thinking that switching to ANT+ was the fix
@@kofuzi Just for balance I also have a 735 and have had no issues. Left wrist, left foot. 🤷♂️
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Columbus Ohio Go Bucks is a nice flat fun marathon
hmmm. interesting.
For Garmin users.... does Stryd talk with the Garmin nicely?
It depends on your device but this should give you a pretty good idea: support.stryd.com/hc/en-us/articles/360004924033-Stryd-watch-compatibility-chart
Fit Garmin users try Garmins own power meter. It’s a free app from the connect store and only requires you to have either the HRM-Tri, HRM-run or pod. All of which you may already have but if not are much cheaper than Stryd
Never had Stryd 'drop out' with my Fenix 3 in the 18 months or so that I've had it (via Ant +). Awesome for short interval / hill work.
As long as you don't have the original Fenix 5 or Fenix 5s (non-plus), it works fine. However it does have some limitations because it is implemented as a ConnectIQ data field. You can't get power zone alerts, for example. My understanding is that Suunto and Polar have better integration with running power, but I have not tried it.
My 1st pod had no connections issues, until it did around year 1. Stryd replaced it and the 2nd pod is working fine. I also have both a Garmin 935 and Fenix 5s (not plus). I haven't had connection issues with either in regards to the Stryd. I know they caution against the Fenix 5s, but mine works. In regards to the Garmin IQ fields, there are several that support power readings. But, if you want to be able to see them in connect, I normally need to include the Stryd IQ field on a screen. My current favorite 3rd party field is Run Power (free) since I can configure it with the sub-fields I like to see. It includes alert capability (be sure to verify your watch against the different levels of capabilities -- they aren't all the same). For those interested in the Garmin Pod, it is not compatible will all Garmin watches. When I purchased the Stryd, it wasn't compatible with my Vivoactive HR (the higher-end Garmin's at the time were required). It is definitely cheaper if you have a compatible watch, but I do like some of the information from the Styd website that you won't get with the Garmin.
Are you gonna try the new stryd??
if they send me one for testing, perhaps. otherwise, i'm happy enough with the version i have. or i may try other companies' footpods.
I think it's the only one with power on the market, other footpod are inacurate!
@kofuzi also contemplating on the Stryd footpod. Is it worth getting the updated version with wind + humidity or is 1st gen sufficient?!
i was hoping that they'd send me one to test. but i haven't heard anything so far.
they have stopped shipping the first gen model now
Newbie question. How does Stryd accurately measure distance if GPS is not used?
It can sense how far it is being moved between strides
It has accelerometers that measure acceleration in each direction. This is integrated with time in each direction to get velocity and this gets integrated again with time to get distance. In each direction.
A solution to losing your mileage is to use your watch or some other device as your main source of GPS data and have the stryd pod fill in the gaps if necessary. This will limit the chance of your data getting screwed up. Cheers.
Thanks for the tip!
Liking running with power on Stryd. It certainly shows how far off my treadmill pace is. I don’t like that the iOS app won’t read HR from my Apple Watch, so I am forced to use the watch app. It would be nice to see all screens on the iPad. Also, I wish that Zwift would show power numbers for running like it does for cycling. I am running by power zones, and although it records the power to analyze later, it would be nice to see 190 watts and be able to set the treadmill intensity to that. I am more interested in that than pace or distance when training.
Ah, that’s an interesting limitation. I’ve just started zwift running, and I hadn’t even realized that yet. Although I suppose it is viewable still on your watch, no?
Yes. You can run on watch to power I guess and then delete or not upload one of the files? Seems like seeing power on Zwift screen would be ideal.
Does it work with the Strava app on Apple watch?
stryd pushes almost instantly to strava. that's how i've gotten strava data to populate over the last 1000 miles. but i don't think you can configure strava data fields on the apple watch at all, let alone configure a power data field.
@@kofuzi You have confirmed my suspicion of how this works on the Apple Watch. It's Apple's "app-centric" model causing the problem. Stryd would have to implement all of the data pages and configurability into their app themselves and you can't use Apple's workout app simultaneously with the Stryd app, I think.
A Garmin (and I assume Suunto and Polar) works by having the system software provide a Running activity type that you can customize that almost without limit with data pages and data fields. Stryd power is a custom data field provided by Stryd on the ConnectIQ store on Garmin or a system data field on Suunto and Polar.
Very interested in this product. The AppleWatch app looks a big improvement over the default Workout App.
But seems too buggy with Bluetooth and drop outs to make it trustable.
Have you tried the Power2Run App on your Apple Watch, they say they can get your power info directly from the Watch
hmm. i've not tried that. i'm a bit skeptical about wrist based power, but i may have to look into that for comparison purposes.
When you run with stryd with an apple iwatch do i need to launch the stryd app or i can use apples work out app to record data?
Apple workouts doesn’t allow you to configure a data field for power. You’ll have to use the stryd app or an app that does let you read power from stryd, such as workoutdoors or iSmoothRun
kofuzi did you use the Stryd app while running? I’m seeing varying time/distance/pace when Stryd exports to Strava. Stryd says it’s a different between moving time and actual time. Have you use the footpod with WorkOutdoors?
could that connect to garmin
yes
if connected to garmin do I still need the membership because garmin has those same features on the app
Try to look up runalyze.com It's free to use and you can synchronize your your runs from Garmin just like Strava does. Not sure how well synchronization with Apple Watch is. It will display the data in a little bit more easier format. Your ground contact time on a run is for example not that interesting. But what if you can see data from the last 6 months and see if the number is going up or down.
But what do you do with that information if you do find that it is going up or down? That's where I find the number of confusing utility. Am I to then run and intentionally try to limit GC? I just don't know how to do that.
@@kofuzi I'm like you not an expert on this. And I don't spend any time on it either. I just like to view the data in a different format. The Stryd way to show is hard to understand. You're not supposed to try to get a lower contact time. Perhaps you could try it out a few minutes on a work out. But as you get better at running I think your ground contact time will be lower. So you can see if you are progressing with the data.
All in all I would not worry too much about the advanced metrics. The Stryd is good for indoor running on a treadmill, for measuring power and for an accurate pace (better than GPS ) . You forgot to talk about those benefits I think. So you need to put in another 1000 miles to finish the review :)
To me, the very accurate pace/distance makes it worth the money. Especially when doing speedwork on the track.
Also, I test out a lot of running shoes and 'leg spring' and 'form power' data (which I find most interesting) seems to be spot on, when it comes to measuring running economy in different models. I was a however bit surprised though that the Vaporfly 4% only came in second. Actually my old Energy Boost - which I use mostly for recovery runs - showed better numbers.
In general I think its wrong to look at power numbers as an alternative to HR. I think the real magic is the correlation between the power and HR at different pace. This can help you find some sweet spots, when it comes to your running economy at different HR zones - which is helpful in order to nail the correct race pace.
Finally, during races - think of 'HR' as the 'engine' and 'POWER' as the 'body work'. You need to know before the race what both your engine and your body can handle and once you start the race, just make sure that you stay in the right zones in both areas.
that's an interesting insight. i've never really looked at HR (mostly because wrist based HR seems to be a bit wonky for me). but i like the idea of finding sweet spots in a power:HR ratio of sorts.
@@kofuzi At the level you have start reaching I would really consider implementing HR as well in your daily training and perhaps also races. It's true that the wrist based HR is not reliable - especially when doing speedwork. However, it's ok for all those slower paced runs and then you could use a strap for intervals/speed blocks and races. In races your worst enemy is often the heat/sun and the wind. Power readings don't take those variables into account. However, your HR never lies. So unless the course I very hilly, I would say it's still more correct to pace yourself from HR (even though a combination could be even greater). Especially when you reach a certain level (and your physical "base" is well-developed"), your fatigue is usually more correlated to your cardiovascular than your physical limits. Using both HR and Stryd could be a really powerful tool to make sure that both parts hold up during the entire race - especially for those hilly courses.
January 25th, my bday, niceee
Happy belated birthday!
Haha thanks!
I run with a Garmin Fenix 3HR watch which is fine in most situations except that the GPS becomes useless when I run through places with high buildings. I've been interested in the stryd for a long time but just haven't found any detailed review on it to decide whether it is worth the $200 it's sold for. I ended up playing it safe and got the garmin footpod for $30 which solved the problem of getting ridiculous pace data when the watch loses GPS signal. But, obviously, I'm still intrigued about this "running with power" stuff. I've watched the video but I would like to hear more from your regarding the percentage of times the power correlated to how you perceived your effort was.
When I'm dying, I feel like the power is under-reported. Or maybe that's just me be insecure.
Hi, do you have to use the STRYD app on the Apple Watch or can it add data to the Apple workout app? I see you use Apple Watch, STRYD and upload it all to strava.. what is your setup to do this please?
Stryd app works fine. I used iSmoothRun and configured a power data field
kofuzi Thank you. Can iSmoothrun work on Apple Watch with chest strap and STRYD pod without taking a phone out on a run?
I caution anyone buying one of these- I may have just got a bad one but mine worked great for 2 years and then started grossly overestimating my distance and hence pace data, along with doing other weird things like not displaying any data at all sometimes.
The company has been zero help in correcting the issue. At $200 a piece, disappointing
$100 per year
$1.92 per week
$0.27 per day.....?.....bargain😉
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