STRYD FOOTPOD REVIEW | IS POWER BETTER THAN HEART RATE AND PACE?
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 29. 06. 2024
- STRYD FOOTPOD REVIEW | IS POWER BETTER THAN HEART RATE AND PACE?
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Hey everyone,
In today's video of the Advent calendar we're looking at the Stryd powermeter or Stryd pod. It's my number 1 training tool and I'm trying to explain to all of you why it's such a powerful instrument
Share all your questions and thoughts in the COMMENTS
Cheers,
Alex
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00:00 Intro
00:48 Power?
01:26 Disclaimer
02:15 Power vs HR
04:49 Power vs pace
06:09 Actual threshold
06:55 Anaerobic « battery »
08:40 Real time pace
09:21 Other metrics (RE, LSS)
10:38 Outro
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#run #Stryd #RunWithPower - Sport
Iâve used stryd for 2 years. I tell every runner I meet to buy one.
Ya just over 2 years for me. It's the best running tool I've bought.
Stryd changed my running completely. Before Stryd...i was frustrated with Hr fluctuations and was super difficult to control....with stryd no need to worry about pace or heart rate...just keep the power range and automatically both the other parameters were in my prefered range....I always recommend stryd to others who really want improvement in running ...very nice video đđŸđȘđŸđđŸđđŸ
Psychologically speaking, itâs better to get away from paces and times. It makes more sense to focus on the effort that the runner can actually perform and worry about times when the race or workout is over. Iâve discovered that I can run much faster than I thought this way.
Power is unique to the runner. It cannot be compared to other people due variations in efficiency, strength and body weight. Power refocuses the mind on individual human potential instead of thinking about how we compare to each other. The happy accident to running by time and power instead of distance and pace is that it produces much better results in the end.
Been using it more than a year now. So much added value running with power and the Stryd platform. I can train without worrying about overtraining and injuring myself, have a very accurate race predictor with a very straightforward race strategy to achieve it, and tons of nice data to go into after my runs. Never going back to pace.
Oh yes I forgot to tell how accurately you can predict race times!
Thanks a lot for the video. Ordered my Stryd yesterday. Now I'm even more convinced it was right to order. Looking forward to start using it.
Thanks for sharing, Leif! Yes I'm sure you won't be disappointed :-)
Excellent as usual Alex! Dzieki !
Merci Olivier!!
Alex, again thank you again for an informative vlog, Iâm really not the best person to comment but being 66 I try to approach training with a young mind set but I canât help but feel even with myself it comes down to our Mindset how we enter a daily workout, once that button is pressed phsychologically it always come down to the conversation thatâs happening in your mind. Metrics are great itâs a barometer that measures progress but come race day look up to the sky from whence cometh your strength , feel the surge of excitement that you put the work in and dig deeper than you ever have, and forget about what your watch says and listen only to your beating heart. Be well and thank you again.
I love your approach Thomas, thanks a lot for sharing it with all of us. I'm maybe too much into perfect pacing but I like to make sure I'm pacing myself "ideally" for a given event and once I know I'm on the safe side then I start forgetting about the numbers and pushing more and more. That's when time matters. In my races where I'm fighting against the others and not the clock, then I tend to forget more about the watch. Thanks again!!
Thank you for the video! Please explain in more detail about the control of energy consumption.
Power is power. Love my Stryd, especially over the rolling hills here in South Georgia.
Yes, it's unbelievably helpful over rolling hills. My area in Brussels is very hilly and it's such a precious tool.
Pace will never go away. It's what we all strive toward. It's what competition revolves around. You can use power to maybe keep yourself from overtraining --maybe, but it's not like you're going to use that in a race. You have to be able to feel and know your body, and be able to tell it to push past old limits. If you're paying too much attention to power, it's too easy to hold yourself short, both in running and cycling. I think we mere mortals often get too caught up in the hype around technology. Sure, the pros use power, but it's one tool of many in their toolbox (mostly looked at by coaches), and they definitely still pay attention to pace and their body.
Great comment, thanks a lot for sharing! Pace will never go away that's for sure, what I meant is that in 10 years from now I see most runners training with power (which does not mean training without paces or HR, all of them can work together). Thanks again, Mike
Great to see some praise for power as a tool in general and the Stryd pod in particular. The running world is kind of stubborn and old school in many ways and change doesn't come over years, or decades even. Totally agree with you on you're prediction for the future, soon enough we'll all be running with power data. (with that said other metrics could also be useful, of course. But mostly as a complement to power) My theory of the somewhat slow growth of Stryd, at least here in Scandinavia, is that most don't know just HOW accurate and reliable the pod is. đ€·
Thanks for producing quality content! đ
Thank you, Johan! I fully share most of your views and the purpose of this video was also to help people get more familiar with some of these concepts and maybe try the pod themselves :-) Cheers and thanks a lot for tuning in
In november 2019 I ran my first half marathon race (4:40min/km) and achieved my PB in 10K (4:07min/km) February 2020. That 2020 summer I started to train with non-wind Stryd. This 2021, races came back to the streets and I destroyed my PBs: in november I raced the same HM and ran at 4:08min/km also raced a 10K at 3:48 min/km. That's an improvement of 10'54" in HM and 3'07" in 10K! This new year's eve I'm going to race another 10K and Stryd App predicts that I could be under 38 minutes!
Huge improvements!! Congrats :-)
I would love you to implement the stryd data in your shoe reviews! Think fastest shoe within a narrow power-range (watts) etc.. Is a vaporfly / carbon shoe indeed faster while maintaining x watts of power etc..
Some videos have that like you probably know (battles and carbon data time) with power being used to compare the efficiency of shoes (but power then comes from my RunScribe pods). Good idea though to make it an even more consistent thing on the channel :-)
@@AlexFilitti Oh, totally missed/forgot about that part! Anyway, keep up the good work; most scientific/obiective/data-driven reviewer in my humble opinion.
You covered the bases pretty well Alex. I have enjoyed your perspective. I too spent a large sum of money on running shoes, 36 pairs, plus a few I gave away and 1 pair I sold. Some of the budget shoe reviews I would suggest would be the Adidas Adizero SL 20.2 and RC3, Reebok Floatride Energy 3, and finally anything from the little known brand "Enda" of Kenya---I personally have and like the "Secretary Bird" model, a lightweight daily trainer and fun 5K/10K racer. I am wishing Enda well.
Thank you, Ray! I looked this model up but found it both for the Iten and Lapatet models, is the "Secretary bird" a variation of those models? I'll do my best to have them on the channel next year :-) Cheers
Well done đ
Thanks Yaki!
I have ordered the Stryd V2 which is available in November.. I am exited about the leg pounding and the V2.
For leg pounding and all the other « gait analysis » metrics Iâm actually using RunScribe but Stryd has a ton of data too!
Been using my Stryd (wind) for almost 2 years now. I couldn't go back to pace/heart rate. Every race plan I have executed with Stryd have been very successful, even though I am generally under estimated CP. It makes me generally have easily executed negative split races. Since my CP is generally under estimated, I still monitor my heart rate, since without a fully tested CP I don't often know my current limit for watts I can hold for 20+ KM. But I do know that once my heart rate gets past a certain point I am on the clock.
The other huge benefit to training with power is that often a well designed training plan can be used over and over again, since the targets are a percentage of your current critical power.
Is the Stryd pod expensive? YUP. Is it worth it? Best piece of kit I have ever bought for running....and it's not even close.
Absolutely fantastic comment, Tim. Many thanks!! Ton of value and I hope many viewers will come across it :-) Take care
@Tim Trenholm Why don't you do testing before the races then to have an accurate CP. I understand they are hard but at least you'd know what exact power you can hold for the duration of the race and thus go faster.
@@sylvainbauge I was coming back from nearly a year off and needing to lose 25lbs. Was willing to organically let the fitness come. All in preparation to start my spring 2022 marathon block where I will be doing CP assessments every 4 weeks.
I would say you need to do more all our efforts to keep the CP correct. A 3k time trial each month is enough.
Its just a matter of measuring different systems. Stress to the skeletal muscles and to the heart. I personally think it's a pretty big advantage to take advantage of both measurements, just mostly for different purposes. But also comparing them (Power to HR ratio) can be a powerful tool. The only real mistake would be to focus on just one part imo.
I totally agree. As a general rule completely forgetting about a metric is probably not the best thing to do ;-)
Thanks Alex, useful information as always! I have been interested in getting a stryd Pod for a while but I was worried it would be hard to interpret the data. What's your opinion on that? I also wondered which watches pair best with it? I currently have the Pilar vantage V but it's over 3 years old and has stopped updating and it's also really slow to pair with my phone so I am thinking of getting a new one but I thought best to get one that would work well with the stryd Pod.
The app is well designed and will help you understand most numbers. I wouldnât be too worried about that. For watches, two brands currently support the pod natively: Coros (pace 2, vertix 2) and recently Wahoo. The pod works very well with Garmin watches too but you donât have native support for power based workouts. The advantage of Coros watches is also that they have native power readings which is useful if you forget your pod one day and still want to execute your workout based on power. Hope this helps, donât hesitate if you have more questions!
@@AlexFilitti thanks Alex. That makes sense. I was trying to decide between the pace 2 and the Garmin forerunner 245 so that helps. I have always liked the Garmin app so I was thinking to go back to a Garmin but I do hear very good things about Coros too.
@@AlexFilitti I also just realised my polar vantage V has been given me watched based power for 3 years - oops đ€Ł. Not sure how accurate it is though or even what the numbers mean. Apparently I can see it on the watch while I run though and I didn't even realise đ€Ł.
I just found this kind of running gear sensor. This is totally new to me and it quiet interesting. Iâve been using my HR sensor ever since during all my trainings and races. I quite intrigue to try this to improve my running performance but will it be really helpful even I donât subscribe to their platform and is it ok to pair it with my HR sensor?
Thanks!
HR is interesting to look at as an output, with power being the input. Of course the more metrics you can analyze and combine, the better! Hope this helps
I like Stryd but there are few issues:
1) Works differently on different shoes, need to be calibrated. Difference usually 1-4%. But you cannot calibrate the power you get only the pace (on Garmin)
2) Uphill and windy conditions are underestimated (based on hr strap data and feel), on some shoes (Vaporfly) the wind detection not working properly. Also trail running power is not adding any extra power, and running on grass is for example harder.
3) Still cannot make power based workouts on Garmin Connect
Good points, here are my thoughts/experience:
1) I tested it on many many shoes and only the VF shows a meaningful difference with the wind version. For the rest it's always really consistent for me.
2) For the Vaporfly the placement is supposed to be really weird (tested on Kenyan runners) to have consistent numbers. It's higher on the shoe and not following the laces. Did you try that?
3) I'm running with a Coros watch with native support for the Stryd pod, but before I had a FR945 and I used an app on the CIQ store that provided power based workouts. Not sure of the name but it was working great.
Hi Alex! Iâm interested in buying the Stryd but what about the watches? Would I still be able to use it in full with a Suunto watch? Thank you for the review and all of the information đ€©
Thanks for the question Vicente! I must be honest and confess that I don't know about Suunto watches. It works perfectly with my Coros Pace 2 and other Garmin devices I tried this year. But Stryd has a great support page on their site so check out about the Suunto watches there :-) Cheers
I believe that monitoring respiration is the future, but yeah, pods are a cute gadget to have.
Interesting - can you tell me more about that? I know itâs a thing and I track it too but never considered it for training really
Can the Stryd be used for stationary bikes and elliptical machines?
Great ad for the Stryd Alex âșïž
I've been using mine for over 2 years
I bought it to help prevent injury by monitoring the running stress
-Rather than just time on feet, miles, etc .. the impact of which can vary dramatically depending on pace, intensity, elevation gained...
Love it's pace & distance accuracy vs GPS and it's race prediction times are way more accurate than my Garmin fenix 6! đŻ
Haven't tried the training plans tho ..are they good? Would you or any of your subscribers recommend? đ€
Thanks!! I haven't tried their training plans either but hopefully other viewers will see your question and share their feedback ;-)
Stryd's training plan is rather playing it safe and conservative in terms of volume and goal. For beginner that already get used to running with power, its amazing. Intermediate runner will feel something is lacking. IMO, its progression and/or variety. Subscription can solve this problem, allowing the user to edit the plan accordingly while monitoring the RSS and their RSB. The plan as is, is a safe way to get into structured running without risking injury, I guess. As it's based on your CP that are measured through TTs, its hard to go too hard too soon as long as you follow the protocol provided.
@@FarisSalman Thanks Faris - very useful feedback đ
I second what Faris said. For beginners the plans are great to get into running with power. For intermediate and advanced runners, I would not recommend them as they lack volume and variety to really get the best out of running with power. I would recommend hiring a coach (I think Alex is one) or other coaches that work with power. There are also advanced pre-built plans for running with power online.
@@sylvainbauge Thanks Sylvain.
I've just signed up for my 2nd year with the Coach Parry team in South Africa. Their approach is mainly around heart rate but they specialise working with the over 50's which suits me as an old git đ
HR is influenced by weather and level. Of tiredness etc.. So to judge how hard a training session has been I believe is better judged by HR than power. (or is this wrong?)
Iâm a very basic person when it comes to training. Time and pace are as far as I go with measuring workouts and all. However, using the Coros Pace 2 watch, it has inbuilt power reading. How closely correlated to a foot pod power is this? Would it be accurate enough to use for training or is it basically a random number generator?
Not sure if youâve ever compared but Iâd be interested to know as wind riven training sessions can be very frustrating when putting in huge effort and hitting no pace.
The readings on the Coros Pace 2 are very good. Almost equivalent to a non-wind Stryd sensor. I'm actually using the native power on my Pace 2 when I forget to attach my Stryd pod to my shoes or when the battery is dead. The only thing it's missing is the air component of power that the Wind version of the Stryd pod has.
And indeed the air resistance is a huge thing. My canal runs are very interesting for that because it's always windy and the wind is aligned with the canal orientation. On very windy days I get up to 18/20% of air component in the power I generate (which translates to often more than 20% drop in pace - yet because you're producing the same power, the training stimulus is the same as the flying pace you would hit with the tailwind in the other direction).
I use my Stryd foot pod on every run, but don't really look at the data. Mostly I got it for running on Zwift, while on a treadmill. It's accurate and never disconnects from my device.
Stryd with Zwift is a great application too. I don't have a treadmill at home but I would certainly use my Stryd for it! Thanks Bill
Definitely is.
Bonjour Alex, j'ai un Stryd depuis l'Ă©tĂ© dernier, mais je ne vois pas oĂč trouver la mĂ©trique "anaerobic battery"? C'est un champ de donnĂ©es dispo sur Coros?
Hi Alex, I've got a Stryd since last summer, but I can't figure out where is the "anaerobic battery" you're talking about. Is it a Coros data field?
Bonjour Xavier! Câest une mĂ©trique disponible pour les utilisateurs Training Peaks qui sâappuie sur le logiciel WKO pour analyser leurs donnĂ©es. Je sais que Stryd sây penche pour rendre cela dispo via leur app. Merci pour la question!
Between Stryd and Runscribe, do you know which footpod is more accurate at tracking distance/pace?
Stryd!
Power, heart rate, pace, cadence, stride, I donât understand whichever but i wish it show everything in one live screen
You can have a screen with all that data! No super user friendly but doable
Very interesting, thanks!
Coincidentally I just bought my Stryd to use in my next training block (probably just for monitoring first)! A power meter changed my cycling training massively, so I'm very curious what it does for running. The big - obvious - difference being that in cycling it's a direct measurements, whereas with a foodpod it's a calculated estimate, I'm mostly curious about how accurate it will be. Let's see :)
I do a lot of trail running as well. What's your experience with the accuracy and reliability of power readings on mixed terrain?
Thanks a lot for sharing, Sander! On mixed terrains it's fine, even some muddier stuff works ok. The limits are for more technical terrains, where gradients are high and there is a lot of "power walking" in which case the numbers don't really follow the reality and the body is way more beaten up at the end of the session compared to what the pod data would suggest.
@@AlexFilitti thank you very much! So that means on light trail (where I do a lot of my easy running) it is reasonably accurate? For easy running a ballpark figure is good anyway: also with pace and HR it's a broad band that's ok as long as you stay (well) below the upper limit. I hope power will give me an additional reading that works well together with feeling, perceived effort, pace, HR, gradient etc!
If you use TrainingPeaks: how does the TSS calculated from power to the rTSS? I guess I'll find out soon enough how they compare for me, but I'm curious about your experience as well!
@@swenderich Too much data is counterproductive. I would suggest focusing on one when you're running. If you train with power, only look at power when you're running. You can check the HR data at home after the run to see if it correlates. Or vice versa. Stryd gives you your zones but anyway, easy running should mostly be by feel. Some days you're beaten up from a hard workout and your next run will be slower than if you do an easy run after a day off, for instance. I try to run by feel and only occasionally look at the watch to see if I'm not going too high with the power numbers, especially on hills when running easy. A few drifts here and there are okay. The only caveat about the Stryd zones is that you need to have done 3 types of runs to have an accurate auto-calculated CP (done by the Stryd app) and thus zones : a 30 second uphill all out effort, a 10 min all out effort and a 2-3 min all out effort. Alternatively, you could do a CP test of 3 min all out, 30 min break, and then a 10 min all out effort and use Steve Palladino's calculator to calculate your CP. It's more accurate than what's on Stryd. (Super Power Calculator.)
@@sylvainbauge Thanks for this reply!
A practical question. When starting out with Stryd, I have the option to have Garmin get speed and distance from the Stryd rather than from GPS (it's how Stryd wants me to set up my watch). Would you recommend doing this, or stick with the GPS measurements? In this block, I want to use power only for monitoring and start training the way I am used to and look at the corresponding power data in hindsight to get a feel for them. So basically the question is: what's more accurate: speed and distance from GPS or from Stryd? I use many different shoes and I read that some people have issues with Stryd giving inconsistent speed and distance calculations for different shoes...
I use GPS for speed and distance but Stryd is pretty accurate too. In any case the differences are minimal and won't influence your training.
NURVV insoles measure power now too. I tested them at same time multiple times and power was same for both. Lots of data.
Interesting! I heard about them but never tested
@@AlexFilitti you get a great baseline of footstrike. So you can tell right away if an injury is coming.
@@AlexFilitti normally both feet are about 97% midfoot, and 3% forefoot strike. When I slipped and tore left meniscus my left foot went 47% rear foot strike 53%midffoot. That's obviously a major injury but I think if you started to see even a minor difference continuing in a direction you'd tell some injury is coming. It has a load of other data too.
Stryd is actually very powerful tool. They also produced a very interesting app to work with.
I only have the pod for about 5 months and I am loving it.
When you change the shoes, do you have to recalibrate the Pod to be exact power?
No, I don't recalibrate it every time I changes shoes. The only shoe to be careful with (but more from a placement perspective) is the Vaporfly. Thanks for your comment :-)
if it has awkward lacing like the next % you'll have to recalibrate it. i would take it to the track first regardless to see if distance is correct. the very first iteration of the stryd i finished a marathon like a half a mile short on my Garmin.
@@AlexFilitti So I calibrate my Stryd with the Vaporfly too. Then just use it with all my other shoes. I am probably a bit off, but don't have the energy to re-calibrate with every shoe, then adjust my Garmin when I rotate. I agree the the out-of-the-box method didn't work for me.
@@mechadriver5088 I calibrated with the shoe I use the most
I have been interested for a while in getting one. What always sets me back is the 9.99 subscription thing. Is it worth it?
I don't have the subscription so I cannot really comment on whether it's worth. But you can use the Stryd without it for sure!
Do you think we will get a STRYD v5 in 2022? And do you think we should wait for it?
No I don't think so and even if there was a new version in the making, the current version is close to being perfect. Most updates happen via firmware and that should be the case next year too I guess. But I have no insights tbh
Is it fair to compare data from different runs if you run in different shoes?
If the pod is positioned similarly, yes. It's not like other pods (runscribe) where the positioning needs to be recalibrated for every run independently of whether you switched shoes or not.
Runners have been running with power of centuries. We have this power to self assess âeffortâ.
If we practice to be more in tune with our bodies. You wouldnât need power meters
People seems to trust gadgets and watches more than they listen to their own bodies.
The best monitors are the billions of sensors built into our own bodies.
Do they actually work? I want to seek your advice? Is that still going to work without a subscription?
Hi Rob! Yes it actually works really really well. No need for a suscription, you can use the free version of the app and still get most benefits of training with power!
@@AlexFilitti wow... sound like it is worth to invest one. I just did my first half marathon last Sunday. My time was just a bit over 2 hour. I am thinking of getting one. Hopefully this device will help me to archive my PR.
is it good for beginners?
It's great for beginners!
You failed to discuss the 9.99 a month membership cost
Well I donât have it and Iâm very happy without it. But youâre right itâs an option
Thumbnail looks like Gollum holding the ring in lord of the rings đ
Not sure if that's a good or a bad ressemblance haha ;-) Thanks Matt
No more pink light đ
It needed to be charged haha ;-) Thanks for your comment Justin
Not sure about this video seems a bit of a hard sell for stryd. There is no way in 10 years âmostâ runners will be pacing with power, not a chance. Iâve got the pod and really only use it as itâs the most accurate pod for pace on a treadmill which I use a lot. And itâs rubbish when they say itâs doesnât need calibration and itâs more accurate than gps, luckily itâs easy to calibrate. All in all a decent foot pod but too expensive.
Sorry if it sounded a bit biased. I just like training with the pod so I tried to share the good stuff I found over the years.
I'm afraid Stryd is probably dead in the water. No new product in years and Garmin about to announce native power next year. No one will buy the Stryd. It is fraught with all sorts of issues to do with pace and distance which people can't get over.
Thanks for the interesting perspective! I am pretty sure Stryd will survive the native power on Garmin watches. Simply because many people are also using it to get accurate paces and distances. And for that it's pretty darn accurate out of the box (at least for the 40 or 50 pods that I worked with). I have native power on my Coros watch and I like to have it as a back-up. But it lacks the wind component of power and paces are still off because of issues with the GPS signal. Cheers
@@AlexFilitti You have used 40-50 different Stryd pods and you're telling me every one was accurate out of the box? Did you buy all those footpods? I guess it depends on your definition of accurate. 2% error is ok which is generally what I get. But that's not as good as modern GNSS watches I'm afraid. Your final sentence sounds just like Gus. I fear you might have been sucked in. But anyway, good luck with all your endeavours.
No, sorry my sentence was not clear, I just have 1 pod of course! But I've seen data of 40+ pods (people I work with) hence the reference to that. And I'm pretty sure you can get great data out of GPS signals too :-)
@@AlexFilitti Good video Alex. Have a great day.