@@stormy-le6pb and the Mongoloids show they came from Asia. Whats ur point? We're black so we have cousins over there. The fulani ppl are our ppl over there. Even they say they were not sold in the slave trade. It is a fact they were the ones who were selling the other Africans over here. They didn't know we were being genocided and enslaved over here by Christopher Columbus and his ppl. My grandmothers have straight hair and have always said theyre Indian. They were kicked off their land in Canton Mississippi
@@stormy-le6pb you seriously did not read anything I just said. Research the explorers who were with the black indians before and while they were being killed off. They even drew pictures. I dont gotta write paragraphs I just state the facts bye
@@stormy-le6pb kicking my grandparents off their reservation was the crime. Its documented im sure. Lord Jamar said his geneaolgy report revealed his people were already here. I just gotta get one done
@@stormy-le6pb and historical documents show we were enslaved here and sold to britian west indies etc. Explorers witnessed it with their own eyes. They drew us. It was black ppl with straight hair like my grandmothers. Just do ur research now im done cause you cant prove a lie to me when Ive seen many cold hard facts
The Creek Nation open its membership to the pale skin. Before segregating Creek Nation was 100 percent melanated skin people. Anyone that disagree with that is lying. Creek Nation has a long strong history connected to the Mayans history which are one in the same. We have always been on these lands and are still here.
@Rak43cb I dont believe it was even 350,000 bought here And most of those boats came via the Caribbean and not Africa! Not to mention them being worked to death and miscenated with white and Indian people: most of whom were us and not the Mongoloid! We are on our land! Claim your tribes! Mine are Cherokee and Seminole but I actually have pictures of my Cherokee great, great grandma! It's a known fact that the south, eastern Cherokee are directly related to the Mayan.
@@stormy-le6pb why are you in our personal business as an African? We already know how hateful and jealous YOU people are of us! And what the hell you know about American history anyways?
Before you move forward you all need to look further back in time. Creek Nation were Not African Descendants. Johnny Mae Alston told you that her people were NOT AFRICAN. IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT FOR GRANDMA. TELL HER TRUTH SON!
Black Creeks were of African descent. They were the nominal slaves of wealthy Creek Indians and assimilated into their culture. Its a doggone shame and embarrassment that so many black people are ashamed to their African ancestry. But that is not to say that do not deserve to get what's theirs because they are lawfully citizens of the Creek Nation.
@@chadtep7571 Creek nation is just one nation Creek Nation, not separate white Creek or black Creek Indians. B4 Columbus Creek were 100% Mongoloid but now many R mix blood & thats what Creeks R if they have European or African n them. Creek Nation have their own enrollment laws & unless Freedmen can prove Creek ancestry they aren't lawful citizens.
The original Creeks were dark brown or black what y'all would call the original creeks. Asains, y'all came with Ghakaskan, the Spaniards and Portuguese during the Chino slave trade era.
People you do not understand the world at large or geopolitics.. This land - all of America - is the dominion of North Africa. You see how these people are appealing to the US for federal recognition? What they fail to realize is the US appealed for it's sovereign recognition from North African Sultans. Look up the Barbary wars. Yes there was enslavement then as it is enslavement and human trafficking now. That's a story. One story. One small aspect. Not the whole story. And many times not even a true story. Academia is controlled and manipulated the exact same way the media is - governed by the same interests. You will have and continue to perpetuate the prevailing perspective and idealogy that they created. Whatever we were called we were here before anybody else. Nobody brought anyone from anywhere that is a fantastic tale. It's an extremely profitable endeavor? You go to Africa and lose half of your men acquiring ppl to enslave. Half of them die otw back to the coast. Another 1/3 of them die in the voyage. You reach the Americas another 1/3 die from climate and conditions; overwork; revolt whatever but you can populate a nation like Brazil with 100 million Black ppl? Ppl just think - every place on earth you go you find a native or indigenous population with dark skin. EVERYWHERE. And they always claim to be the original inhabitants. India, China, Europe, Australia, of course all of the islands, "middle east", Africa. Everywhere livibale space on earth has dark ppl who originated there. All of them except America? When it comes to America somebody brought all of us over here on ships? Use common sense. It's an allegory for being separated from your land using Maritime admiralty jurisdiction - the Law of the Sea/ aka the Law of Commerce - bottomry instruments and insurance contracts. Acceptance of benefits and registrations trigger these adhesion contracts and they assume jurisdiction. Wake up pay attention stop playing these games and accepting their "benefits". And it is going to take WAR. These are imposters on these lands. They are occupying the territory, although given permissions, they are an occupying force. Stop seeking to integrate with and expel them. Parasites.
@BROOKLYN LADY N.A. history U sinfully lust 4 is valueless compared 2 UR soul that Jesus said is worth more than the world put together & U trade UR valuable immortal soul 4 coveting N.A. history worth nothing 4 burning N hell 4 eternity. The fool has said N his heart, there is no God. God doesn't delight N the death of the wicked. He loves humans very much.
Slavery in Alabama realy didn't start until after The Creeks lost the war in 1814. Most of them never went to Oklahoma. They actually became indentured servants on the land. aka the slaves your history books said came from Africa on Boats.
@@MegaCityOne My eyes are wide open. I was very close to my grandmother. My mother's mother died in 1974 she was 92 at that time. She never mentioned the word slave to us. My aunt (her daughter) said my grandfather's mother said she was 4 years old when General Lee surrendered. My grandfather on my father's side lived until he was 112. I asked my oldest brother he said his grandfather didn't mention slavery. He talked about land encroachment and how people would build something on your land and then ask you to pay taxes on the structure and if you refused they would take your land away. I believe the finding of our link to our ancestors and the reclaiming of the land is our freedom and our birthright.
Are they black or brown .. brown or copper colored...I think the biggest problem is some people don’t know their colors ... the other is that people think that all these brown people come from Africa... some of y’all need to find out who the creek people are along with the Yuchi , Mayan along with that .. the difference between upper and lower creek then you’ll find out where these darker skinned people actually come from...... smh y’all want to act like indigenous peoples were never enslaved by the other tribes of this country ... here another piece of homework for you find out how many Africans actually made it to North America let alone south east Georgia .... God willing and the creek don’t rise They tried to kill us off ... we’re still here Tried to change our identity....we’re still here We’re taking back our traditions, language, culture ... we’re rising up and there is nothing you can do about it
Is this the Picture of William M. If so I see do colored it in It's well known he was more white in colour than copper like most Native Americans. This is because one of his parents was "WHITE" look it up. He was also the greedy leader of the Northern Creeks and was not Black so I hope that's not what you are depicting. He was a bitter enemy of the Traditional Mvskogee trying to hold on to their lands and way of life. Their are many paintings of William that are well know and on display.
See, you have me confused. Are you speaking as a black man with the statement "yall tried to kill us off" And who is yall? I take that statement as racist. Yall aint tried to do shit. If you are talking about Indians then get your words right. Many years ago the European settlers did cause a holocaust of Native Americans but you were not part of that and neither was I.you seem to be blaming White people in general for your personal anger and believe me those words are racist. I have found that the most racist people of today are black people. Do you think God is going to want all this racism in his new world when the end comes. Black people need to stop blaming White people because of their personal anger. One day when I have more time I will explain how most modern White people see the world today. The only way to understand one another is through communication
@@SADDLTRAMPKeith Blacks on these videos speak to each other in riddles. Its like double talk. She is trying to sound intelligent by talking riddles, then that way you won't know how to answer her.
@@patrickgabriel242 ITS CRAZYHOW MUCH OTHER PEOPLE EVEN SOME OF OUR OWN HATE THE FACT THAT THE WORLD IS/WAS OURS ,... YA RIGHT EVEN TILL THIS DAY "AFRICANS" DONT CALL THEMSELVES AFRICAN,.. THE IRONY IS THEY PROJECT ON TO US WHAT THEYVE DONE AND THATS STEAL BIRTHRIGHTS AND IDENTITY ,... THOSE "NATIVES" COME FROM MONGOLIA , BUT THE PEOPLE BEFORE THEM ,... US ,.. WHAT PEOPLE DONT REALIZE WHEN THEY SAY THAT THE CREEKS HID "SLAVES",.. YOU CAN ONLY HIDE A PEOPLES AMONGST YOUR PEOPLES IF YA LOOK EXACTLY ALIKE ,..
@FOUR REEL MEDIA God is who sent races of ppl to lands He Himself decided where they should live. N.A.s being here isn't by accident. It was planned by God Himself. It was also planned that Whites would conquer this land from N.A.'s & imported UR Sub Saharan Bantu Nigerian, Igboo, Congo ancestors. Blacks hate UR own African nations U originate from.
@@dolomite205 Read Acts 17:26 ("From 1 man God made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; & he marked out their appointed times n history & the boundaries of their lands"). Read why God did it. ("God did this so that they would seek him & perhaps reach out 4 him & find him, though he is not far from any 1 of us"). ("Come, let us go down & confuse their language so they will not understand each other." Gen 11:7) God & Jesus came 2 earth & confused the 1 common language & gave ea. nation a language & sent them 2 lands marked out for ea. nation. Blcks were given languages & sent 2 Africa & NDNs were given language & sent 2 America where God marked out lands 4 NDNs & closed the door behind NDNs for 10,000 yrs so NDNs would seek & find him. Read the scriptures. He did the same thing 4 all races of the earth.
@@dolomite205 Ur the son of the devil Bcuz the bible is 4 the world. Jesus said this about u. ("U belong 2 ur father, the devil & u want 2 carry out ur father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding 2 the truth, 4 there is no truth n him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, 4 he is a liar & the father of lies"). Jesus laid down his life 4 the sins of the world, not just 4 for the sins of a certain group of ppl. He loves the world not just ur & urs. Jesus said, Except a man B 'Born Again' he cannot enter heaven & ur not 'Born Again".
@jack archer DNA don't lie. Show us UR DNA 2 prove UR not lying. DNA studies proved only 1 out of 20 Blacks have American DNA. U obviously look African. Indians don't look like U. Im Indian & live with 1000's of Indians & No! We don't look like U. We would call U 'black man' N our language cuz U look like a black woman with that jaw, lips & African features.
It's because the real Creeks sheltered African slaves during slavery. Black creek simply adopted Native American Creek culture, just as the Black Seminoles adopted Seminole culture.
It's because the real Creeks sheltered African slaves during slavery. Black creek simply adopted Native American Creek culture, just as the Black Seminoles adopted Seminole culture.
Treaty of 1866, the federal Government told the tribes to make their Freedmen members of the tribe. Some tribes refused. The Cherokee took a long time to try to reverse the treaty. Nowadays, DNA tracing can match people up with blood relatives in Africa, know your ancestral tribe. No doubts that Indians and Blacks married, or had kids, or lived in camps. A whole bunch of Buffalo Soldiers married Native women, they were only women out west at the time. But, as far as being a member of a tribe, that should always be done the Tribe's traditional ways, not what Uncle Sam says. Africa got tribes, like the sky has stars. Obama from the Luo tribe of Kenya.
@KAW Nah, Black Americans came from Africans. Thus the same race. Don't waist time in conspiracy theories. Even the "real" American Indians don't vouch for Black Americans as being Aboriginal to America. They only recognize Black Americans as Africans that came after being imported to America..
I have creek heritage in my blood. Started from Alabama, then traveled to Jefferson, cass county, Texas, then to Muskogee county Oklahoma. Anyone story alike mine?
dewawn pouncil Hi, dewawn! I'm a so called black female from Alabama and I actually have the documentation from census records and historical markers here in Limestone County Alabama proving that my great ×'s 5 grandmother Lucy Beddingfield was a Cherokee Indian. I have the name of each grandmother who descended from her directly. I also have the census records from Oklahoma where some of her children and other family members were relocated to during the Trail of Tears, as well as pictures of her tombstone where she was buried in Oklahoma in a Creek Indian cemetery. In the early and mid 1800s, Indians in the southeast were often classified as mulattoes on census records and the ones of darker complexion were listed as colored or negro. In actually documented in the Congressional Records and in the records from Oklahoma stating that in Alabama.....Indians were classified as mulattoes. They reclassified us! The rabbit hole goes way deeper than we think. If you think that what I'm saying is questionable.....go to the website called theCrimson.com under Race, Marriage, and Law. It's a law website and you will see that what I say is true. And while you're at it, check out Dane Calloway's CZcams channel. This guy is the truth and goes above and beyond proving our identity.
@@jovonfrazier4286 Anyone can lie and say, "We just did all our paperwork". If you are just now doing paper work than more than likely you're not Creek.
Indians aren't black, so Indians aren't called black Indians. They are called just "Indians". If a person is Indian & part African, then they R called mix blood, not black Indian.
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@@itsjustme5620 Indian tribes R sovereign & set their own rules regarding tribal enrollment & membership. 2 find what requirements a tribe has, U have 2 contact the tribal enrollment office. Tribes have their own Tribal Constitutions or tribal codes.
No they didn’t call themselves Freedmen because they weren’t free, they were call slaves.The name Freedmen wasn’t forced upon them . They could have just called themselves what they actually were. African descendants of The Creek
Walter Plecker had absolutely nothing at all to do with the 5 tribes of Oklahoma. He didn't cause anything incalculable at all to the 5 tribes of Oklahoma. He only loathe the Indians that lived in the state of Virginia.
@plainoletracy The government don't recognize any group of black ppl as black natives. No N.A. nation call any black ppl, as black natives either Bcuz there's no such thing as that. Only Black ppl do that Bcuz of having an insatiable (incapable of being satisfied) lust 4 N.A history, erroneous believing they can get tax free land 2 build their own Casino.
Liars always write they are NDN when U know they aren't. We just know, we just know, an old NDN trick. He didn't disagree did he. He's so dark & has a full beard, Indians can't grow full beards like that, & as dark as he is with a full beard, he's not a Creek. He's handsome though, I give him that.
@@anthemmakersmusic DNA dont' lie. Although DNA can tell u if u have N.A. DNA & what general areas u come from, the downside is that it can't tell u what tribe u belong 2. Its strange that ppl want 2 B NDN n the 1st place Bcuz NDNs r constantly being trampled on. NDNs r constantly attacked on every side. I can tell u 1st hand, being an NDN is not any better than being an A.A.
False no such thing as Creeks that's another misnomer we also spoke different dialects of Mvskokee not Algonquin and migration stories say we came up from the south not down from the north. You're wrong
My Great great Grandmother was full blooded CREEK Indigenous person from the continent we now call America. She and her family were from Kosciusko, MS. How can I claim nationality?
@Amaru Cu29 I have more Native American blood than 1/4, but I don't want anything........just knowing my family is enough for me! And yes, I have the paperwork from everyone of them, they were Cherokee. One of my great grandmother's was a Welch and another was a Ward.
@@m3vm3 The laughter is on U! Dummy!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 N.A. haplogroup is different from Asian🤣🤣🤣🤣 U need 2 study genetics. N.A.'s have been living isolated apart from mainstream Asians 4 over 14,000 yrs & R more closely related 2 each other than 2 any Asian population. N.A.'s r their own unique population
@Sunny CrowWhen R Blacks going 2 get it through UR thick skulls that every N.A. nation has members that R also part African & look Black just as there R those who R part European & look white. Blacks should know by now, that N.A. aren't that isolated from the world that they aren't going 2 meet other ppl & have babies by them, especially N.A.s that live N close proximity 2 other ppl like White & Blacks.
Mmm no. Blacks were brought as slaves by European whites. Natives were there already. Doesn’t matter that they’re Black tho. They’re still Creeks. Period.
And actually those ' native' Americans are mongolians and Siberians the real native American was the mix of Aborigional and Mongolian blood. Thats a true Native American. Then they were forced or enticed to mix with theceuropeans with a promise of a better life than the native aborigional. Thus they themselves turned their backs on their native aborigional ancestors for a whiter looking peoples. Thats why America looks at Aborigional as Africans because they were taught to see natives as fairer complexion fine hair & so on. Its the longest running joke and scoffingly by the people who know. They even put prize people of power like Obama to further trick and keep a stranglehold on deception bc Obama is a hafrican his dad Kenyan so as to keep the deception alive 401 years and counting. Now it Kamala Harris who is Jamaican and Indian. I believe she is at least half indigenous from her Jamaican dad and her mother is East Indian but now they are trying to play the same race games by calling her black. Lol! We know America sees 1 way so its easy to railroad people. Soon euro/ caucasian will know her as the first African American vice president! For sure most Americans never get out of their neighborhood to even know where India is on a map! O.k. its a book.
@@Rolando_Cueva Black Indians were in the Americas tens of thousands of years before the Mongolians migrated here. The Olmec, Mayans, Aztecs, Seminoles and yes King Phillip's tribe (Pocahontas brother) was copper colored people.
@@Rolando_Cueva what we have now are the descendants of $5 indians. There were more Black people taken out of South America than brought into the country. We were taught a lie and our history stolen from us just as our land.
@@Rolando_Cueva No, no & no, 'N.A.'s aren't black though", even Blacks lie & call themselves 'copper color' Bcuz they know Columbus called the Taino 'copper color' trying 2 tie them-selves N with N.A.'s whom they believe Columbus was describing. Black is what Blacks called not 'copper color'🤣 N.A. N the U.S. were called "red" Bcuz of painting themselves red.
Only reason a African black person wants to sue to be part of the creek nation is $. Yes some Indians owned slaves and after the passage of the 13th amendment and all enslaved people were freed that yes , Your ancestors could of lived amongst the Creek Indigenous communities, but that doesn’t make you one! Same if a white family grew up amongst the creek nation and all my friends were Creek I went to Creek church I was getting creek news letter and for a time they could of unknowingly been sending me checks but that doesn’t make me a Creek and I would have no legal standing! The only reason there is any question is because like most things it’s about money!! If there was no money to be gained they wouldn’t care about being included and there wouldn’t be any law suit! Just IMO!
All the Freedmen that have zero American DNA, wouldnt have the tribes best interest first, like Muskogee Cree Indians would. Its only the love of money that they're suing for.
WE ARE NOT AFRICANS!! The word African is named after a white settler. We are the original people of this land and Gods chosen people the hebrews. Fact check it by doing the research.
God did tell the world N the Bible that N the last days of the world that knowledge would increase, & DNA is knowledge that was unheard of not long ago but now its used everywhere N the world Bcuz we are living N the last days & knowledge has increase DNA can tell anyone where they originate
I've never had any formal test done to verify or substantiate what my paternal grandmother used to tell me. But she ALWAYS reminded me that I was a Black Creek Indian. I need to find out.
@@stormy-le6pb I'm just going by what my paternal grandmother told me. You do have Poarch Creek and Muskogee Creek. I'm not an expert on this. I'm still learning.
Well, Elizabeth Warren had her "family stories" about being Cherokee. No disrespect toward your family, but genealogy is a matter of knowing one's family tree. The Creek fought for the Confederacy in the Civil War. After, on August 11, 1866, the Creek accepted & signed their Reconstruction Treaty with the federal government. ( more than a year after "Juneteenth") Concessions were made by all 5 of the tribes. The first was to abolish slavery and give the Freedmen tribal rights. The Cherokee, Creek, and Seminole treaties gave the Freedmen unqualified rights, but the Choctaw and Chickasaw treaty gave them the choice of being adopted into their nations or being removed by the federal government and settled elsewhere. Creek (Muscoge) Tribe will have records of their Freedmen families in their Tribal Enrollment Office. If you find a bloodline ancestor there, you can apply.
The $5 Indian are the black people. U need 2 look out 4 UR own $5 Indian black people. The head leader of the '$5 Indian' Calloway was arrested 4 selling fake '$5 Indian' genealogy charts 2 desperate gullible black people🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@treysperformance2804 Have you ever heard of Jane Gibson? Her family was Native American and they were wrongfully enslaved by plantation owners in the tidewater area of Virginia. They had to take it to court to prove that they were Native.....it was proven, but they still don't know what tribe the family was from. Some say Pamunkey or Cheraw.......nobody ever thought to ask what tribe!
I would suggest that u and ur family do yall genealogy period let Ancestry DNA tell it im 93% African which is a bold-faced lie! I have gone back to the end of the 1700s and there are no African ties for my family on either side.... get birth and death records first it'll save you a headache I promise ONLY USE ANCESTRY TO DO YOUR FAMILY TREE DO NOT MESS WITH THE DNA TEST...
The first slaves were “Indians” so, maybe they were the ones who looked Black, so-called “Negroes?” This history is not widely taught but is important to understanding how so many “Black” Natives ended up as slaves alongside the Africans when it was finally a race-based system. Learn about the Virginia and surrounding region Native peoples because a good many of Black Indians actually originate from them long before the wars. It is documented history. And I agree with someone here about not using the superimposed term of “African American.” If there are those blended of both peoples (negros da terra [Indigenous], the negros de Guinea [Africa], there is no shame. It’s society and the colonizer who separated the darker Hurd Native people.
My moma was a dark skinned woman she was creek from Jackson's Gap where Andrew Jackson killed most of my ansestors.my daddy was Irish and my whole family worked for a Mr.Banks that owned the big house and I picked cotten for 5 years when I was a little girl.I think it is Great that I see my people fight for there rights .hang in there and God bless.
@@brendacolquitt1676 It not just dark skin, its having Mongoloid ancestry. Many Creek are mixed with European & R light skin, but yet they are still Creek Indians.
I am Asberry and have been going up against Muskogee offices for years. Have gotten birth and death certificates. Collected info from other relatives, including numidents. Bottom line they do not want us to have it. They kept my paperwork and told me they lost it and sent me a denial letter.
They are very dismissive.. I believe the Lakota would have done the same to Kyrie if he wasn’t famous. It’s sad which is why I don’t gaf about having it. My great grand is on the roll but they can keep it with their racist asses.
@@TheDjspin57 Quit lying. God said, All Liars Have Their Part N The Lake Of Fire. If U don't repent & become born again B4 U pass away from this life into eternal life, U will have 2 B hurled into hell 4 all UR unconfessed sins of lying, covetousness, which is idolatry, slander, stealing, murder, swindler, etc...
@Poetic Dreamer U should have a copy of UR paper work & where ever U got it, U should B able 2 get it again. If U were Creek, they would enroll U, but obviously U have zero Creek ancestry & can't B enrolled, so UR taking it out on the Creek nation & slandering them. Remember God hates slander & said Slanderers won't inherit the kingdom of heaven.
@@yahya4370 Creek nation isn't racist Bcuz they do enroll U if U have proof. I bet UR gr-grand on the roll was listed on the Freedmen non-Indian list & thats why U can't enroll. Bcuz U don't have proof doesn't mean Creek nation is racist. Its Bcuz Ur not Creek & refuse 2 believe it.
Freedmen have to have documented proof that they have a Creek ancester in their genealogy with a Dawes Roll Number before they can be enrolled in the Creek Nation.
Creek is Creek! The US Government Census workers tried to beat the Creek from my relatives by repeatedly attempting to change their status each census from Creek Native American, to White, to Hispanic, to Negro. Very happy for everyone one to have their heritage restored.
Creek were not Indigenous to Mississippi unless transplanted. Tribes of Mississippi were Yazoo, Choctaw and others but not Creeks. I am not saying that no Creeks are there. I'm just saying that if you have ancestors that you say are Creek then somewhere down the line they come from Georgia, Alabama, and Northern Florida. The Siminole are not Indigenous to South or Central Florida prior to breaking away from the Creeks of Georgia, Alabama
@@SADDLTRAMPKeith yup because Europeans were transplanting everybody from their homes back then with forced migrations etc so it's not shoc I ng if some tribes ended up in other places look up chief warhorse on CZcams she's got lots of info on this
@@truthteller1160 True, Creeks ancestral lands was Alabama and Georgia and Choctaw's ancestral lands was Mississippi. You can find information very easily.
@@truthteller1160 what's you black Americans fascination with being native to America y'all have yet to show any scientific data to back up these lies just he sayy grandparents said it and a bunch of out dated written books of Christopher Columbus saying he seen darkskin people y'all do realize black Americans are not the only people in the globe who has those skin colors right y'all also know regardless if it's your grandma great grand who ever that she or he can be fabricating tales I lived in the south and got family out there and them elders no offense are full of shit they was taught by the white man to be anti African and to adopt all the European ways of life and they pass that shit down to the younger ones I seen dudes blacker then me with no native features talking about they grandmother said they got Indian then when they take a DNA test they have little to no native blood in them you ever heard of the buffalo solder well those were African Americans working with the white man to hunt down real natives so explain this to me if y'all so native to America why whould y'all help a foreign enemy on your land to hunt down Indians I'm confused also why whould the white man go to Africa to get black slaves if they were all ready here why do every black American I run across have last names that sound English better yet if blacks we're always here we're did they orgins come from don't tell me they been here since the beginning of time are just magically appear in America why do Indians still speak there own language can one of you negros tallk in your native language so y'all liying ass grandmother claims y'all family always was here and can recant history from centriues ago but she can't tell y'all what y'all spoke before the white man introduce y'all to English so the stories of all our black heroes are fake then why did escape slaves need the help of the natives to navigate through the United States if they always was here I got family that lived in the south and some can't even tell me how to leave the area there in much less no the United States you people are pathetic and it's quite sad y'all think being African is a bad thing the white man have nothing to gain by liying about shit they run and own the United States liying to 15percent of the population isn't going to do much for them they can care less if your Indians are not most of y'all is doing this in the hopes to get native benfiits just like the whites who do it there is nothing to prove black Americans are native to America but a bunch of CZcams videos with Afrocentrics showing books misinterpreting texts and saying there copperd colored what about Michael Jordan Bernie mac Wesley Snipes these brothers are American born them and there family and they don't look copperd color to me blacks don't just come in one color so that whole copperd color is made up bullshit y'all people are some real trators to your people and when it's time for all blacks to unite and the white man start putting his knees in your back stay y'all asses right with him with that fake indian shit
Yes but that doesn't make them black💀 now you can be mixed but this talk about native americans are supposed to be black is the stupidest shit I've ever heard
@@Josh-fj9hi you are right!!! It's one thing to be from Native ancestor's, but another to tell them that they have been African all along, will not work! That's like taking ownership of someone's heritage, you can't do it.
It depends where Indians lived how dark the melanin N their skin was. Indians N the north had lighter brown skin & Indians near the equator had darker brown skin. But every N.A. N North America including Mexicans & South America Indians all have the same A.B,C,D,X haplogroups N their DNA that blacks & whites don't have Bcuz they are foreigners.
Why do we have to go through so much just to be who we are and be treated with respect? I don’t agree with being bonded to a piece of paper. They can keep that dum diversas and all the rest of their contracts. Being free is being contract free. No ties. We don’t need corporate citizenship. Time to stop asking for our rights and demand what’s rightfully ours.
Just curious, what are you demanding that is rightfully yours other than what you own and your personal rights as a human being? What else in life is there to ask for? We all as people cannot ask for something our descendents had and or lost. Reparations for anothers deeds. A Man of any race will always stand up and build his own world. Not expect anything from another. What you work for is what your owed and no one can ask for more. Not me. Not you
EUGENE MAYS You're not Native American that's why. This black guy is getting all of your money and is going to lose it all and the lawyers are going to be laughing all the way to bank.
EUGENE MAYS I think that this man got this great idea that he could get lots of money from the Freedmen by telling them that he can make the Creeks take them back in as Freedmen like what happened to the Cherokee, so these freedmen are giving him all their money, but all he is doing is spending it, and then the lawyers are in on it and are all laughing all the way to bank.
@@SADDLTRAMPKeith he probably means he'd like back some of what the identity thieves have stolen After all the hard work the true aboriginals aka Indians put into their communities that were stolen etc Hrs probably just kind of grieving in his own way over lost time
@@truthteller1160 When your ancestors were free from slavery, they owned nothing except what they collected N their slave houses, so U ppl today own way more than ur ancestors ever did. If UR trying 2 say UR Native American, then UR a liar, Bcuz ur not, & so imported African blacks didn't own land & resources that Natives owned, so Sorry. Don't grieve over nothing U never had, Bcuz u never did have land & resources here.
@Dante Shaw Legally speaking: Indian tribes cannot B sued N state court without their consent. This provision is what’s known as “sovereign immunity.” American constitutional law teaches that federal & state governments cannot B sued N court absent their consent, a doctrine that predates the formation of the Constitution.
I don’t know why my black brethren would turn away from the most triumphant legacy in the America’s either. But how can you tell her percentage of race? Are you some type of professor x mutant?
@Blind Mice IMO the Black Nationalists are who started this, because of the FoxWoods Casino decades ago, because it makes them feel good to be racist. Blacks hate White, so they might as well hate the N.A.'s too.
The people with negative comments should do your research. It's not about money it's about the truth. You $5 Indians should just come clean. No response needed
so people want to look out for the Creek in Oklahoma but what about us Creek that stayed behind in Georgia? Who fights for us? this needs to be less narrow
@Team Libra U must have proof in the form of a birth or death certificate, then take that to the enrollment office & they will enroll U there. Call the Creek Nation enrollment office 4 more information.
I love this. I hope they win their lawsuit. This is something that has been taken away from the copper colored creeks. Me and my family have all known all our lives that we are creeks. Some people say, you can't be a native American, your black. Or look black. But we know copper colored people were on this continent a long long time.
@@stormy-le6pb You know, you really had a lot to say but you didn't give me any proof to the fact that copper colored indigenous people were not on this continent before anyone else. All you can say is that a slave master made the copper colored people. Which sounds stupid. Ok let's say some slave owners did father some children. There is still no way that they could have fathered all the tribes that we're on this continent at that time. It's funny how you try to bring up a slave owner, like every slave owner was fathering children. No sir. I can say today that there are way more black men having children with white women then there ever was during this slavery time. Even with that. It's still not enough to over take all of our population of today. You really need to educate yourself. Because your really looking like you don't know what your talking about..
@@RaathloveTV-u5m Blacks are constantly telling me to educate myself, when its you blacks that need to educate yourselves. You are the ignorant one. Theirs plenty of proof that Blacks are imported Sub Saharan African Bantu Nigerians & other west coast African Nations & of course theirs proof that all African Americans have European DNA. Its all in the DNA but of course Blacks lie & say DNA is a hoax, because it won't lie for you, but DNA proves that Blacks origins are in west coast Africa, of the Nigerian, Swahili, Igboo, Congolese, & Cameroon African Nations, & if you watch those DNA test videos, every African American show up with European DN, so you are a black European or a European African. Blacks don't realize it but DNA technology only gets better as time marches on, so you can't call it a hoax forever. One day it will be required for everyone to have their DNA results handy, & people will see then that African Americans are just African Bantu and European. You can lie about it now, but in the near future, Blacks won't be able to lie about it at that time. LOL
@Ralph Escoe the proof that every African American is European is in the DNA and it didn't get there if there wasn't sex going on between blacks & whites during slavery days. Only 1 in 20 blacks have Native American DNA & that is because the Natives were rounded up & forced off of their ancestral lands, to Indian Territory, where Natives were left to themselves until the Land Rush in 1889. A geneticist did a DNA test on the Cherokee freedmen & found that only 6% had Native American DNA, & they had large percentages of European DNA. Slave Master's fathered mixed race children from African slaves before they sold them to the Natives. LOL
@@RaathloveTV-u5m If you have Native blood line, then why are lying for Black Nationalist & Afrocentric false prophets? You are not Native or you wouldn't be lying for them. Natives know who we are, & so does the world, so quit your lying. God said coveters will not inherit the kingdom of God, & to covet you have to commit all the other sins first to finally become a person who sinfully covets. First it start with envy, then jealousy, then hate (same as murder), then lying, then stealing from your neighbor. God tells you to love your neighbor, but coveters hate their neighbor, which is why God said coveters will not inherit the kingdom of God. Blacks don't realize that coveting did not go away with the ages, but that God said his words will not pass away, so to keep you family from falling into the depths of hell & burning for eternity you should read about that sin called covet & read why God hates it so much & why he will just throw anyone who covets into hell fire to burn for eternity. Coveting Native American identity is not worth burning in hell forever for.
If you are Creek, you are not African, because your ancestry does not originate from Africa. Your ancestry is on this land called America. If you are Creek, you are not American, because your ancestry is pre-american, that is before this land was named America.
@THE CHARM Take a DNA test. It can't tell U if UR a Creek, but it can tell U if UR related to other ppl who identify as Creek & U can share information. If UR DNA don't come up with American DNA, then UR not N.A. cuz all bones here R only of the 1st ppl here, the Mongoloid N.A.s. Blacks haplogroup R the L's & it originate N Africa. American DNA are A,B,C,D,X.
I was always told we are Creek Indians, being from Montgomery County in Georgia, I did not know why they work so hard to keep us from knowing who we are
Because like everything in this country, it's about ownership. They have and want to continue to dispossess the rightful peoples of this land their birth right so that "they" can stay in control.
God 😂 that’s an illusion just like African Americans are African is an illusion also elders and ancestors will tell you how they brainwashed us to thinking everybody came off a ship called Jesus 🤦🏽♂️
...... UR Creek ancestor & find out, U have no such proof & can't enroll Bcuz it was just a myth & not true that UR family were Creek Indians & that makes Blacks mad & start 2 hate Indians & slander them 4 being racists. Creek nation do enroll Indians with Black ancestry. They don't try 2 keep blacks from knowing who they are. UR were lied too by UR family.
You really don't know? Then you need to educate yourself. Start with the book: "An Indigenous Peoples' History of the United States (read the version For Young People) by Roxanne Dunbarr-Ortiz. Then step up to: "Black People are Indigenous to the Americas: Research Material for the Inquisitive by Kimberly R. Norton.
UR ppl of evil & wickedness & have a great lustful desire N UR heart 2 covet a history thats not URs, so U wickedly desire 2 steal it, that's a sin that will cause U 2 B thrown into the lake of fire 2 burn 4 eternity. U think its alright 2 steal, but God says thieves, covetous ppl, liars, haters & greedy ppl will not inherit the kingdom of heaven, that means U'll B burning N the lake of fire, Bcuz U refuse 2 believe God, instead U follow Satan who wants U 2 covet, lie, & steal.
Derrick Culler The tribes kicked out the freedmen because being a tribe is different than being a citizen of the united states,.Being a citizen of the tribe means that you have Creek ancestry, which freedmen don't have, so they instead become citizens of the United States where it is not required that they have tribal ancestry.
DNA can only lie, depending on who owns the test or how the people comprehend a test result! The DNA test has already been debunked! DNA doesn't tell a tribe, only certain ancestors, who took the same test; your not going to get your great grandmother 20 generations back, unless she took the same test, by the same company, which didn't even exist, let alone the DNA testing kit, which only test one side of the family, to give a probability of people living in an area or region with the same blood type. So if my Great Grandmother moved from Central America to West Africa in the last Pole Shift, then I guess she's an American African, wich the term did exist! Or during the day's of Prester John, where he talks about the 3 India's; Hindustan (India Minor), Africa (India) & America (India Major/ India Superior), which was also on the maps Marco Polo used. On the National Geographic, Asia edition, that which we don't see; Christopher Columbus is a Black Moor, they actually show his paintings on the ship! So the Atlantic slaves were white people, called Christian slaves by the Muslims. Black slaves where the term was 1st used, was for the Pacific Slave trade; where the term Black Birding is it's actual name; the main reason why we don't call ourselves black! We are in fact different shades of Brown! So when someone wants to steal your possessions (Land theft), they have every reason to lie to you! The Quakers created this myth for their benefit, along with Mascovich later in 1933, to tell us we from Africa. Which the part we call Africa was not called that. Only on the Mediterranean area, was it called Ifriqiya by Carthage; setting up colonies like Spain, Rome, France, Morocco, Tania Tripoli & Libya area's; they called South Africa (Arabinia) and have maps to back it up! In the Library of Congress, African American is a code word for Native American! The Book of America by Montanus, has pictures by non prejudice European travelers who painted us how we look back then; as the Aboriginies in America, along with other tribes who traveled here, way before the Columbus myth! So calling me black or assume I'm African is a lie; which I can and will debunk it!
They are the Creek Indians, those 7 generation bleached out indians are not pure blood! They let white people in but not the Aboriginies. They were told they are African, which Moors joined tribes also back then. Even got treaties in Mexico for land to support it.
@@hushmon3ymuzixproductions610 God created humans & DNA too. He let Scientist look into his DNA creation, because he has a plan. It could be used to gather all his chosen people the 10 lost tribes back to Israel, as prophesied, so you can stay stupid, but DNA don't lie. It will also be used in the very near future, called the Mark of the Beast. Blacks don't want to comprehend that God has a plan for DNA, Blacks hate it because it won't lie for them. There will never be a day that God will change Blacks into Indians. Quit dreaming.
The U.S. Tribes are sovereign, and can abrogate any treaty they were coerced into signing. The U.S. put stipulation that the tribes would have blanket amnesty for any acts before 1866, so the tribes felt compelled because they were thinking "war crimes". Slavery continued in Brazil until 1888. In Africa Dr. Stanley Livingstone, a Scotsman, campaigned to stop slavery on his many explorations there. After his death, all slavery did stop, in his honor. There are many statues of Livingstone in Africa today. Sovereign U.S. Tribes have the right to say who their citizens are, not by force of U.S. govt.
@@ajanderson2285 Creek Indians means Creek R the Indians. The $5 Indians 'WERE' white men N the early 1900's that had zero Creek ancestry but gave crooked white government clerks $5 2 B put on the Creek list & those $5 white men R all dead now. The $5 Indians today R the angry blacks who 'wannabe Indians' & slander Creek Indians, which is a sin God hates. He says slanderers won't inherit the kingdom of God.
@@ajanderson2285 UR absolutely wrong. Yes Creek nation can deny ppl enrollment, who can't provide proof with their birth certificate. Even N.A.'s who believe they have some Creek ancestry must also prove with their birth certificate that they R Creek & those Indians also will B denied if they can't show proof.
@@ajanderson2285 Indian tribes R sovereign & set their own rules regarding tribal enrollment & membership. Indian tribes R like a huge family, they R all related 2 one another in one way or another & they know who their relatives are & aren't. U would have 2 fill out a genealogy chart & list the name of UR Creek ancestor & provide his death certificate 4 proof.
Why the people saying "so-called " We are African descendants. I agree that you may have the rights to receive benefits. But We are African first. They surely enslaved your Ancestors. That's with out doubt. Why isn't Freedmen enough? Why be call a Creek. Why isn't that insulting to you.? You are literally bragging about your ancestors being treated as property .
@@shunthatdude2773 DNA test results can determine who is indigenous or not. DNA don't lie. Studies already show that only one out of 20 blacks have any Indian DNA.
Creeks of African descent...I did not know about this. I had a dream of a man telling me to look at Creek Native Americans and that brought me to this video...wow
Everyone on this planet is of African descent, We are original ppl. Native to the America’s! He was being a bit apologetic is all. We need to be unapologetic about who we are
@@m3vm3 Blacks UR lying urself 2 hell. Don't U want 2 live N heaven with God? The only ppl that can enter heaven R those who R born again N Jesus & U have 2 confess UR sins 2 Jesus & repent from them & accept Jesus as UR Savior. UR telling lies to urself & 2 other blacks. Blacks need 2 read the bible to know truth. the truth will set U free.
@@sandraersin Dane Calloway is a false teacher that is prophesied 2 arise N the last days of earth & we r living N the last days of earth. Can't anyone see whats happening around U. It means we r living N the last days of earth. Soon & very soon, millions of ppl worldwide will vanish off the face of the earth called the Rapture of the Church & then the Tribulation will begin. After that all ppl will have only 7 1/2 yrs left to live ur life on earth if the Anti-christ don't kill u 1st. He will have 2 billion ppl killed.
There were many of us who never made the trek on the trail of tears. Our Creek ancestors of Burke County Georgia were enslaved on the plantations. Many of them had their indigenous identity stripped by the Dawes Commission and labeled “Negro”. I am one of those descendants.How do I petition the Creek Nation Cherokee Nation. I am a Gulph of the Gresham Plantation in Waynesboro, Georgia. We are Creek, Yamassee and Cherokee
Yamasee got wiped out in 1700's The remnant that remained called themselves Yamacraw. Even the Tuscarora left the area to join the Iroquois Confederation.
@@AmigoKandu clearly untrue because I’m here and my children are here. My linage in America goes back before 1790. My people were enslaved on their own lands. We were wiped out with a stroke of a pen during the Dawes act. It wasn’t until then that we were labeled Negro on their Census. So, the history scholars are deliberately lying about who the indigenous peoples of America are.
@@naadir79 Take a DNA test 2 see what percentage of N.A. U have. DNA can't tell U what tribe U come from though, just how much percentages a person has, but with DNA, they tell U what ppl U R related 2 & U can contact them 2 find out more about how U & they R related & if they have Creek ancestry.
I am a creek and we use blood quantum to determine who gets in that’s why these fools lost this case. Either your on the Dawes rolls or you go get a job and stop acting like the world owes you reparations cause as a true native this lawsuit is offense and it amounts to begging and cultural appropriation.
I agree with everything that's going on, but we have got to stop calling us Africans, how can we be Native Americans then turn around and say Africans, we are not only indigenous to this country but, we are the Hebrews of the bible.
How does owning land connect to being a dang Indian? There were no black Indians, even if you owned 10,000 acres, how do you connect that to being an Indian? Indians owned our ancestors like people own dogs and cats, what is the fascination with being counted among them? I have nothing against Indians just curious.
@@stormy-le6pb Im so fucking tired of you. If black people aren't indians then why are mayans and aztecs dark brown with dreads and braids and shit??? Explain to me who these people are research.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=3338907&page=1&partId=1&peoA=14502-2-70&people=14502 and who are these kids jcb.lunaimaging.com/luna/servlet/workspace/handleMediaPlayer?lunaMediaId=JCB~1~1~1676~2460003 get a fucking life. And yes Seminoles are black. Gullaha and Seminole are the same fucking thing Realhistoryww Mississippians: and other Ancient Black Americans WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE??? AND THESE PEOPLE??? realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Americas/US_and_Canada.htm No one is claiming to be shit. No one is claiming to be a straight haired mixed indian. We are saying we were here too. Only 400k africans were brought here
Well 2016stormy Is historically right in saying American Indians or the indigenous population of the Americas were not some predominantly negroid morphological/ phenotypical population with predominantly southern Saharan African genetic ancestry like most African Americans or Afro Caribbeans. Mayans were not some negroid black population group like African Americans who are a post Colombian population group. Brown ski pigmentation doesn’t automakers equate tto African Americans or black people . Brown ski pigmentation is not confined only to people of African descent . South Asians , Arabians and western Asian people have brown skin pigmentation but that doesn’t make them you . Solely using skin pigmentation as some measurement metric stick to demonstrate genetic ancestral relationship or group relationship is very problematic and inaccurate.
@@CopperJedi Blacks think people back then were so dumb that they didn't know what a Black man or Negro was. LOL The Spaniards had a Negro man with them, so they knew Blacks were African. Afrocentric blacks of today are the dumb ones, since you think white people didn't import you to america. LOL
@@stormy-le6pb how much they paying you to spread disinformation and propaganda???😂😂😂 cuz anybody that's doing the real research know you lying put your sources against mine i bet i blow u out the water and send you back under the rock in the cave u crawled out of😂😂😂
@@j.allmanmacppllc1649 I didn't know ppl could get paid 2 write comments on YT. I sure wish I was getting paid. Blacks must B getting paid 2 write lies, it's an ill gotten gain, Bcuz God said liars will not inherit the Kingdom of God. N.A.'s never lived in Rocks, dummy, except maybe for the Anazazi who lived on the side of cliffs. God led our N.A. ancestors 2 America & shut the door behind them & N.A.'s lived n isolation for 1000's of years. The reason God did that can be read in Acts 17:26. God want's N.A. 2 B living in the Kingdom of God too.
@darkeagle It's YOU who are the "troller." It's "troll" instead of "troller." My family is from Fulton County, GA. My paternal family has a heap of Creek Indian heritage in our blood. Get your facts straight, and learn how to spell. Try passing the damn English class, and then come call me a troll. I have a life. God bless you.
I am Taskigi descendant most my family still resides in East Central Alabama. I've traced ancestors back to the Chickasaw rolls although Taskigi was a tribe in the Mvskokee Confederacy. That alone tells me some bs was going on back then. Keep the fires burning 🔥
Our citizens are of our blood...I'm sorry, no disrespect...but I do not agree with freedman's becoming FULL citizens...we barely get help now and adding more citizens (non blood) would really delay our help for the rightful native American blood
@@CaramelCali truth and facts...may not be easy to find but tell me how a person that was owned and then given freedom should be listed on the native American rolls when native Americans culture of the old ways had rules on who was apart of there nation. There's nations that don't allow anything blood quatum under half and people that don't even have a drop of blood of Native blood should receive our benefits 🤔once again our culture and ways are being ignored by the government and we are told who to allow in our tribes and our nation's.
You know, I'm almost see-through white, yet I'm a citizen of the Creek nation. I don't understand why they shouldn't be able to claim their heritage too if it's proven like everyone else's, by blood...??? But I'm reading comments that there isn't a blood connection? How can you claim to be something you're not?
Ethnicity and blood are two different things. Blood may empower but it does not restrict culture and heritage. French lineages in Morocco are not gonna abandon their berber culture and islamic faith to go back to france and germany to become druids.
Zainab asiyah check out Phoenix moon indigenous on CZcams she has a lot of information on the legal aspects and can point you in the right direction Also chief two hawks has a channel on CZcams and gives great advice he's very respected and he's reunified his tribe from the Narragansett I think
@Truth Teller Blacks can't seem to understand that God is who is in control of all things under the sun & He loves it when people love Him back & worship Him & adheres to the commandments he gave us to live by & blesses those who worship him & what blacks don't understand is that many Native peoples are christians & are called Children of God & He takes care of his own, which Blacks can't understand. If God be for us then who can be against us. Many blacks love God too & God takes care of them too & of course he loves White people too & takes of them also, so the point is God will not let anything bad happen to Native peoples because many of us belong to Him & he says he hears our prayers & we are supposed to be praying for our nations, the United states & our indian nations. blacks are citizens of the United states & natives are citizens of the United states & our tribal nations, so we pray for both nations. blacks can't understand this much about Natives, thats why you never got past an inch. God is who one needs to pray to & he don't bless sin.
@@truthteller1160 You don't know God or read his word, so you don't know that God had everything planned from the beginning to the end for all nations on earth before the creation of the world and it all centers around the the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the reason is because there is only one way to heaven and that is by Jesus, so after Jesus rose from the dead, it was time for the world to know each other again so that the Gospel of Jesus could reach all lands including the lands of the Native Americans. Not all Natives believe in God, but many do and that is the very reason that God let columbus sail the seas to America, so that Native peoples could hear of the good news that Jesus shed his blood just for all people so that we all could live in Paradise, including native Americans. God does not want one human to go to hell, thats why he is warning blacks of what you are doing is a sin that will keep you out of Paradise and He is using me to tell you, because no one out there cares enough to warn you, and its not trolling or race baiting, its a warning from God. It is what it is.
@@stormy-le6pb you can't covet what's rightfully yours and I'm talking about ones identity not stuff I couldn't care less about stuff but the truth does matter And true proof like ones paper trail and bloodlines that they can prove through documentation ,oral history and archeological evidence can no longer be denied It is what it is I have no ill will towards any one and I do trust The Most High God, The Creator of all Creators To take care of all of His people and all those who aren't trying to block truth and trying to live honestly and riteously of every kind No one can say they love the Creator if they don't seek and love truth and we all need to be on the side of truth whatever we find out that it is
I`m not of Creek ancestry but my Cherokee and Blackfoot Elders never said anything about Afrika. This man either doesn`t know his history or he`s an agent of misinformation. Afrikaans and indigenous are separate terms and people. He has to know this if he is who he says he is... Freedmen or Free people of color were Indians or indigenous people for Afrikans. Even the researchers are now saying that only 92,000 Afrikans were brought to the Americas not the 10.6 million that was taught for years. Since only about 3% percent of the Afrikans were taken to North America they would mean less than 3,000 over a 400 year period! No one should talk about Indians of Afrikan decent anymore.
@@liveoak144 Dummy the world knows Blacks today weren't slave, it was UR imported Nigerian, Igboo, Congo ancestors, that were slaves. That same blood running through their veins R running through UR viens, with the exception of the European blood that also runs through all Blacks veins of today. Blacks R still descendants of UR Nigerian, Igboo ancestors
Not sure why he kept referring to Afrika or Native Americans of Afrikan decent? This is not something our Elders ever said but then I`m not of Creek decent.
@Derrick Culler Let me ask one question how many black Americans you know with 7 Afrikan great grandparents. The DNA ancestry testing results are telling people they are upwards of 90% West Afrikan. However, there is no testimonial, documentary or physical evidence.
@Derrick Culler You are a poster child for indoctrination. Since you only believe the dominant culture you need to visit the slave voyage website which states there were only 92,000 Afrikan slaves brought to the Americas not 12 million which has been taught for generations. By the way only 3,5% of the slaves were dropped off at North America. That's less than 3, 000 over 400 years. www.slavevoyages.org/
@@dolomite205 That Senator isn't Native American so he's just as stupid as you greedy covetous Blacks who crave for N.A. identity & history for benefits. DNA don't lie. just 1 out of 20 blacks have any N.A. DNA, what comes up in black is European, so you are white not Indian.
No need to worry or beg any longer my Freedman brothers and sisters, the time of our justice will come much sooner than later because we are really the tribe of Judah from Israel whom will see the shame of all our rejecters... So read TMH's Word, understand, see and rejoice in knowing our time is nigh.
First off I would like to say that I know this is a toughie subject and everyone has the right to say and believe anything they want even if history is not recorded that way. But some of these comments are down right mean. Through communication we learn to understand each other. Through communication we drop hate and try to understand. Just because my beliefs differ from another's beliefs does not give me the right to disrespect another person's belief. It's always best to keep the lines of communication open. Name calling shuts the door to dialogue. I will continue to search for true history of where we all come from.
@@xXGuitarNinjaXx DNA testing has improved tremendously, so DNA don't lie. God created it, & what he created don't lie, because God don't lie. You know why God let the Scientist see into DNA? Because he is going to use that to gather all of 12 tribes from every place they were scattered & bring them back to Jerusalem. [("According to God’s prophets, the redemption of scattered Israel shall be accomplished in the latter days (Deu. 4:27-3). The raising of an ensign to the nations is the signal for Israel to be gathered home in the latter days (Isa 5:26). nations will eventually deliver up the scattered peoples of the Lord, who will return to the lands of their forefathers’ inheritance (Psa 107:1-3; Isa 43:5-6). Of the twelve tribes, the tribes of Joseph’s sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, will be gathered first and then direct the other tribes in their gathering (Gen 48:5-11; Deu 33:16-17)]
We need to refrain from putting Africa in our speeches when we speak on indigenous issues. Speak as an indigenous American bottom line
Who controls the dna scams?
@@stormy-le6pb and the Mongoloids show they came from Asia. Whats ur point? We're black so we have cousins over there. The fulani ppl are our ppl over there. Even they say they were not sold in the slave trade. It is a fact they were the ones who were selling the other Africans over here. They didn't know we were being genocided and enslaved over here by Christopher Columbus and his ppl. My grandmothers have straight hair and have always said theyre Indian. They were kicked off their land in Canton Mississippi
@@stormy-le6pb you seriously did not read anything I just said. Research the explorers who were with the black indians before and while they were being killed off. They even drew pictures. I dont gotta write paragraphs I just state the facts bye
@@stormy-le6pb kicking my grandparents off their reservation was the crime. Its documented im sure. Lord Jamar said his geneaolgy report revealed his people were already here. I just gotta get one done
@@stormy-le6pb and historical documents show we were enslaved here and sold to britian west indies etc. Explorers witnessed it with their own eyes. They drew us. It was black ppl with straight hair like my grandmothers. Just do ur research now im done cause you cant prove a lie to me when Ive seen many cold hard facts
The Creek Nation open its membership to the pale skin. Before segregating Creek Nation was 100 percent melanated skin people. Anyone that disagree with that is lying. Creek Nation has a long strong history connected to the Mayans history which are one in the same. We have always been on these lands and are still here.
Nupuqi om-re Khonectics will guide you
Facts bro they don’t know 😂 they mad that they came from this blackness
2016stormy stfu
@Rak43cb I dont believe it was even 350,000 bought here
And most of those boats came via the Caribbean and not Africa! Not to mention them being worked to death and miscenated with white and Indian people: most of whom were us and not the Mongoloid! We are on our land! Claim your tribes! Mine are Cherokee and Seminole but I actually have pictures of my Cherokee great, great grandma! It's a known fact that the south, eastern Cherokee are directly related to the Mayan.
@@stormy-le6pb why are you in our personal business as an African? We already know how hateful and jealous YOU people are of us! And what the hell you know about American history anyways?
Before you move forward you all need to look further back in time. Creek Nation were Not African Descendants. Johnny Mae Alston told you that her people were NOT AFRICAN. IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT FOR GRANDMA. TELL HER TRUTH SON!
Black Creeks were of African descent. They were the nominal slaves of wealthy Creek Indians and assimilated into their culture. Its a doggone shame and embarrassment that so many black people are ashamed to their African ancestry. But that is not to say that do not deserve to get what's theirs because they are lawfully citizens of the Creek Nation.
@@chadtep7571 that's not true at all
@@chadtep7571 Creek nation is just one nation Creek Nation, not separate white Creek or black Creek Indians. B4 Columbus Creek were 100% Mongoloid but now many R mix blood & thats what Creeks R if they have European or African n them. Creek Nation have their own enrollment laws & unless Freedmen can prove Creek ancestry they aren't lawful citizens.
The original Creeks were dark brown or black what y'all would call the original creeks. Asains, y'all came with Ghakaskan, the Spaniards and Portuguese during the Chino slave trade era.
People you do not understand the world at large or geopolitics.. This land - all of America - is the dominion of North Africa.
You see how these people are appealing to the US for federal recognition? What they fail to realize is the US appealed for it's sovereign recognition from North African Sultans.
Look up the Barbary wars. Yes there was enslavement then as it is enslavement and human trafficking now. That's a story. One story. One small aspect. Not the whole story. And many times not even a true story.
Academia is controlled and manipulated the exact same way the media is - governed by the same interests. You will have and continue to perpetuate the prevailing perspective and idealogy that they created.
Whatever we were called we were here before anybody else. Nobody brought anyone from anywhere that is a fantastic tale.
It's an extremely profitable endeavor?
You go to Africa and lose half of your men acquiring ppl to enslave. Half of them die otw back to the coast. Another 1/3 of them die in the voyage. You reach the Americas another 1/3 die from climate and conditions; overwork; revolt whatever but you can populate a nation like Brazil with 100 million Black ppl?
Ppl just think - every place on earth you go you find a native or indigenous population with dark skin. EVERYWHERE. And they always claim to be the original inhabitants.
India, China, Europe, Australia, of course all of the islands, "middle east", Africa. Everywhere livibale space on earth has dark ppl who originated there. All of them except America? When it comes to America somebody brought all of us over here on ships? Use common sense.
It's an allegory for being separated from your land using Maritime admiralty jurisdiction - the Law of the Sea/ aka the Law of Commerce - bottomry instruments and insurance contracts.
Acceptance of benefits and registrations trigger these adhesion contracts and they assume jurisdiction.
Wake up pay attention stop playing these games and accepting their "benefits". And it is going to take WAR. These are imposters on these lands. They are occupying the territory, although given permissions, they are an occupying force. Stop seeking to integrate with and expel them. Parasites.
Creeks of African descent? Never heard of that. The muskogee creek were melanated anyway. They should have corrected the lawyer.
They always have to put any darkskin as an African its sick and needs to be stopped.
@BROOKLYN LADY N.A. history U sinfully lust 4 is valueless compared 2 UR soul that Jesus said is worth more than the world put together & U trade UR valuable immortal soul 4 coveting N.A. history worth nothing 4 burning N hell 4 eternity. The fool has said N his heart, there is no God. God doesn't delight N the death of the wicked. He loves humans very much.
My ancestors where on the trail of tears
Slavery in Alabama realy didn't start until after The Creeks lost the war in 1814. Most of them never went to Oklahoma. They actually became indentured servants on the land. aka the slaves your history books said came from Africa on Boats.
@@MegaCityOne Anyone can say they are this or that, but DNA tells you what you really are.
@@stormy-le6pb Human
@@MegaCityOne My eyes are wide open. I was very close to my grandmother. My mother's mother died in 1974 she was 92 at that time. She never mentioned the word slave to us. My aunt (her daughter) said my grandfather's mother said she was 4 years old when General Lee surrendered. My grandfather on my father's side lived until he was 112. I asked my oldest brother he said his grandfather didn't mention slavery. He talked about land encroachment and how people would build something on your land and then ask you to pay taxes on the structure and if you refused they would take your land away. I believe the finding of our link to our ancestors and the reclaiming of the land is our freedom and our birthright.
@@stormy-le6pb Hebrew Human.
Are they black or brown .. brown or copper colored...I think the biggest problem is some people don’t know their colors ... the other is that people think that all these brown people come from Africa... some of y’all need to find out who the creek people are along with the Yuchi , Mayan along with that .. the difference between upper and lower creek then you’ll find out where these darker skinned people actually come from...... smh y’all want to act like indigenous peoples were never enslaved by the other tribes of this country ... here another piece of homework for you find out how many Africans actually made it to North America let alone south east Georgia ....
God willing and the creek don’t rise
They tried to kill us off ... we’re still here
Tried to change our identity....we’re still here
We’re taking back our traditions, language, culture ... we’re rising up and there is nothing you can do about it
Is this the Picture of William M. If so I see do colored it in
It's well known he was more white in colour than copper like most Native Americans. This is because one of his parents was "WHITE" look it up. He was also the greedy leader of the Northern Creeks and was not Black so I hope that's not what you are depicting.
He was a bitter enemy of the Traditional Mvskogee trying to hold on to their lands and way of life.
Their are many paintings of William that are well know and on display.
Y'all ain't mayan😂😂fuck outta here
They're 1829 copper .imposter.
See, you have me confused. Are you speaking as a black man with the statement "yall tried to kill us off" And who is yall? I take that statement as racist. Yall aint tried to do shit. If you are talking about Indians then get your words right. Many years ago the European settlers did cause a holocaust of Native Americans but you were not part of that and neither was I.you seem to be blaming White people in general for your personal anger and believe me those words are racist. I have found that the most racist people of today are black people. Do you think God is going to want all this racism in his new world when the end comes. Black people need to stop blaming White people because of their personal anger. One day when I have more time I will explain how most modern White people see the world today. The only way to understand one another is through communication
@@SADDLTRAMPKeith Blacks on these videos speak to each other in riddles. Its like double talk. She is trying to sound intelligent by talking riddles, then that way you won't know how to answer her.
They never called themselves Africans stop it!!!!
A.A.s always did say they were African
@@stormy-le6pb who are you
@Dirk Ikeson they tell you their tribe who they are only African Americans talk like that
@@patrickgabriel242 ITS CRAZYHOW MUCH OTHER PEOPLE EVEN SOME OF OUR OWN HATE THE FACT THAT THE WORLD IS/WAS OURS ,... YA RIGHT EVEN TILL THIS DAY "AFRICANS" DONT CALL THEMSELVES AFRICAN,.. THE IRONY IS THEY PROJECT ON TO US WHAT THEYVE DONE AND THATS STEAL BIRTHRIGHTS AND IDENTITY ,... THOSE "NATIVES" COME FROM MONGOLIA , BUT THE PEOPLE BEFORE THEM ,... US ,.. WHAT PEOPLE DONT REALIZE WHEN THEY SAY THAT THE CREEKS HID "SLAVES",.. YOU CAN ONLY HIDE A PEOPLES AMONGST YOUR PEOPLES IF YA LOOK EXACTLY ALIKE ,..
@FOUR REEL MEDIA God is who sent races of ppl to lands He Himself decided where they should live. N.A.s being here isn't by accident. It was planned by God Himself. It was also planned that Whites would conquer this land from N.A.'s & imported UR Sub Saharan Bantu Nigerian, Igboo, Congo ancestors. Blacks hate UR own African nations U originate from.
Whats sad is, they the real Creeks not those other $5 indians.
@Derrick Culler The only dumbass is the one who will not explore an alternative explanation because he is .... a dumbass.
U are correct! Alabama senators called blk ppl of America Indians\aboriginals
@@dolomite205 Read Acts 17:26 ("From 1 man God made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; & he marked out their appointed times n history & the boundaries of their lands"). Read why God did it. ("God did this so that they would seek him & perhaps reach out 4 him & find him, though he is not far from any 1 of us"). ("Come, let us go down & confuse their language so they will not understand each other." Gen 11:7) God & Jesus came 2 earth & confused the 1 common language & gave ea. nation a language & sent them 2 lands marked out for ea. nation. Blcks were given languages & sent 2 Africa & NDNs were given language & sent 2 America where God marked out lands 4 NDNs & closed the door behind NDNs for 10,000 yrs so NDNs would seek & find him. Read the scriptures. He did the same thing 4 all races of the earth.
@@stormy-le6pb the bible is only for the israelites. i can show u several scriptures proving that!!!
@@dolomite205 Ur the son of the devil Bcuz the bible is 4 the world. Jesus said this about u. ("U belong 2 ur father, the devil & u want 2 carry out ur father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding 2 the truth, 4 there is no truth n him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, 4 he is a liar & the father of lies"). Jesus laid down his life 4 the sins of the world, not just 4 for the sins of a certain group of ppl. He loves the world not just ur & urs. Jesus said, Except a man B 'Born Again' he cannot enter heaven & ur not 'Born Again".
We are not Indians or africans, we are indigenous stop defining yourself by the colonizers definitions
@jack archer DNA don't lie. Show us UR DNA 2 prove UR not lying. DNA studies proved only 1 out of 20 Blacks have American DNA. U obviously look African. Indians don't look like U. Im Indian & live with 1000's of Indians & No! We don't look like U. We would call U 'black man' N our language cuz U look like a black woman with that jaw, lips & African features.
then just what are you?
Why does he keep saying of African decent?
I think that's what's hurting his case.
It's because the real Creeks sheltered African slaves during slavery. Black creek simply adopted Native American Creek culture, just as the Black Seminoles adopted Seminole culture.
@@kinkiesse7736 hard disagreement
If evidence exists that west African Mariners voyaged to the Americas, pre Colombus, and mingled with the natives it’d make some sense
@@markofisaiah1449 what evidence is that?
Stop it with the African decent thing
Freedmen must have documented proof they have a Creek ancestor in their genealogy with a Roll Number before they can be enrolled in the Creek Nation.
@darkeagle I'm an ambassador of God & this is my calling.
It's because the real Creeks sheltered African slaves during slavery. Black creek simply adopted Native American Creek culture, just as the Black Seminoles adopted Seminole culture.
Treaty of 1866, the federal Government told the tribes to make their Freedmen members of the tribe.
Some tribes refused. The Cherokee took a long time to try to reverse the treaty.
Nowadays, DNA tracing can match people up with blood relatives in Africa, know your ancestral tribe.
No doubts that Indians and Blacks married, or had kids, or lived in camps.
A whole bunch of Buffalo Soldiers married Native women, they were only women out west at the time.
But, as far as being a member of a tribe, that should always be done the Tribe's traditional ways, not what Uncle Sam says.
Africa got tribes, like the sky has stars. Obama from the Luo tribe of Kenya.
@KAW Nah, Black Americans came from Africans. Thus the same race. Don't waist time in conspiracy theories.
Even the "real" American Indians don't vouch for Black Americans as being Aboriginal to America. They only recognize Black Americans as Africans that came after being imported to America..
I have creek heritage in my blood. Started from Alabama, then traveled to Jefferson, cass county, Texas, then to Muskogee county Oklahoma. Anyone story alike mine?
Blood line started in Alabama to Florida like west Florida (Pensacola) and Tallahassee also I live in Texas
dewawn pouncil Hi, dewawn! I'm a so called black female from Alabama and I actually have the documentation from census records and historical markers here in Limestone County Alabama proving that my great ×'s 5 grandmother Lucy Beddingfield was a Cherokee Indian. I have the name of each grandmother who descended from her directly. I also have the census records from Oklahoma where some of her children and other family members were relocated to during the Trail of Tears, as well as pictures of her tombstone where she was buried in Oklahoma in a Creek Indian cemetery. In the early and mid 1800s, Indians in the southeast were often classified as mulattoes on census records and the ones of darker complexion were listed as colored or negro. In actually documented in the Congressional Records and in the records from Oklahoma stating that in Alabama.....Indians were classified as mulattoes. They reclassified us! The rabbit hole goes way deeper than we think. If you think that what I'm saying is questionable.....go to the website called theCrimson.com under Race, Marriage, and Law. It's a law website and you will see that what I say is true. And while you're at it, check out Dane Calloway's CZcams channel. This guy is the truth and goes above and beyond proving our identity.
Oklahoma same bro we just did all our paperwork
@@jovonfrazier4286 Anyone can lie and say, "We just did all our paperwork". If you are just now doing paper work than more than likely you're not Creek.
West Africa is where black Americans bloodline starts . Your Grandmothers were ignorant to the truth
Some of the comments are absolutely incredible. Black indian by definition those who lived with or were born into the tribe.
Indians aren't black, so Indians aren't called black Indians. They are called just "Indians". If a person is Indian & part African, then they R called mix blood, not black Indian.
I am creek indian to I still live at Jackson's Gap .where Andrew Jackson's army killed most of my anstestors.thank you for standing up for our people.
Andrew Jackson was a evil man he couldn't when the war physically so he used germ warfare to kill millions
There were many that natives disliked
• Columbus
• Jackson
•Custer
• Trump
AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON
FOR THE RECORD, AS AN ARAB-AMERICAN🇺🇸 DRUZE 🇸🇨FROM ISRAEL 🇮🇱
These are the top of these men we both cam dislike
My grandma's family was/is Creek Indians... I know about Jackson's Gap, Alabama.
Alabama born and breed.
Have you heard of the last name Philpot?
Never from Africa. Never. Bullish
lol ok
It’s amazing that the US whyte gov has authority to determine who is who, instead of the nations themselves.
The Nation's have say in it also! You have to prove Native Blood and what tribe and who from the tribe.
That's the funny part. THEY DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY...They have FORCE of law.... that's it. They are ENFORCING this B's on the ppl
@@itsjustme5620 Indian tribes R sovereign & set their own rules regarding tribal enrollment & membership. 2 find what requirements a tribe has, U have 2 contact the tribal enrollment office. Tribes have their own Tribal Constitutions or tribal codes.
No they didn’t call themselves Freedmen because they weren’t free, they were call slaves.The name Freedmen wasn’t forced upon them . They could have just called themselves what they actually were. African descendants of The Creek
By blood. If you were full blooded indian would you deny your grandchild that has a black/"african" parent?
the damage walter ashley plecker and people like him have caused is absolutely incalculable...
I have never heard this name but will do my research.
@@lolageorge511 peace peace, did you find something interesting in your research, did you see what happened?
@@kizzie-renaedavis.1146”Plecker was killed after being struck by a car in 1947.” a good fitting end for him and anyone who spouts this nonsense.
Yes he did alot of damage.
Walter Plecker had absolutely nothing at all to do with the 5 tribes of Oklahoma. He didn't cause anything incalculable at all to the 5 tribes of Oklahoma. He only loathe the Indians that lived in the state of Virginia.
He said out his own mouth that his Grandaddy called them black natives but he let the white folks start calling them African or freedmen creeks. Smh!
@plainoletracy The government don't recognize any group of black ppl as black natives. No N.A. nation call any black ppl, as black natives either Bcuz there's no such thing as that. Only Black ppl do that Bcuz of having an insatiable (incapable of being satisfied) lust 4 N.A history, erroneous believing they can get tax free land 2 build their own Casino.
My Tribe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sub Saharan Bantu Nigerian.
Liars always write they are NDN when U know they aren't. We just know, we just know, an old NDN trick. He didn't disagree did he. He's so dark & has a full beard, Indians can't grow full beards like that, & as dark as he is with a full beard, he's not a Creek. He's handsome though, I give him that.
@@stormy-le6pb
DNA baby
@@anthemmakersmusic DNA dont' lie. Although DNA can tell u if u have N.A. DNA & what general areas u come from, the downside is that it can't tell u what tribe u belong 2. Its strange that ppl want 2 B NDN n the 1st place Bcuz NDNs r constantly being trampled on. NDNs r constantly attacked on every side. I can tell u 1st hand, being an NDN is not any better than being an A.A.
Mines too my tribe family
this knowledge is very important and needs to be spread.
Creeks are not African Americans. They are decendants of Algonquin, Woodlanders
False no such thing as Creeks that's another misnomer we also spoke different dialects of Mvskokee not Algonquin and migration stories say we came up from the south not down from the north. You're wrong
there's no such thing as Creek of African descent it's a misnomer
My Great great Grandmother was full blooded CREEK Indigenous person from the continent we now call America. She and her family were from Kosciusko, MS. How can I claim nationality?
you cant. that is too far back. 1/4 is the blood quantum meaning you have to be one generation removed....
@Amaru Cu29 I have more Native American blood than 1/4, but I don't want anything........just knowing my family is enough for me! And yes, I have the paperwork from everyone of them, they were Cherokee.
One of my great grandmother's was a Welch and another was a Ward.
@@MixedRogueKhorri lol his gma isn’t native because she’s mixed with the mainstream asian phneotypical native. But because black ppl are 100% native
@@m3vm3 The laughter is on U! Dummy!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 N.A. haplogroup is different from Asian🤣🤣🤣🤣 U need 2 study genetics. N.A.'s have been living isolated apart from mainstream Asians 4 over 14,000 yrs & R more closely related 2 each other than 2 any Asian population. N.A.'s r their own unique population
@Sunny CrowWhen R Blacks going 2 get it through UR thick skulls that every N.A. nation has members that R also part African & look Black just as there R those who R part European & look white. Blacks should know by now, that N.A. aren't that isolated from the world that they aren't going 2 meet other ppl & have babies by them, especially N.A.s that live N close proximity 2 other ppl like White & Blacks.
Dr.claude Anderson gave me the red pill and brought me here , american history is deep
We have to start dropping "African". We were here before the "Native Americans". We are Indigenous Americans.
Mmm no. Blacks were brought as slaves by European whites. Natives were there already.
Doesn’t matter that they’re Black tho. They’re still Creeks. Period.
And actually those ' native' Americans are mongolians and Siberians the real native American was the mix of Aborigional and Mongolian blood. Thats a true Native American. Then they were forced or enticed to mix with theceuropeans with a promise of a better life than the native aborigional. Thus they themselves turned their backs on their native aborigional ancestors for a whiter looking peoples. Thats why America looks at Aborigional as Africans because they were taught to see natives as fairer complexion fine hair & so on. Its the longest running joke and scoffingly by the people who know. They even put prize people of power like Obama to further trick and keep a stranglehold on deception bc Obama is a hafrican his dad Kenyan so as to keep the deception alive 401 years and counting. Now it Kamala Harris who is Jamaican and Indian. I believe she is at least half indigenous from her Jamaican dad and her mother is East Indian but now they are trying to play the same race games by calling her black. Lol! We know America sees 1 way so its easy to railroad people. Soon euro/ caucasian will know her as the first African
American vice president! For sure most Americans never get out of their neighborhood to even know where India is on a map! O.k. its a book.
@@Rolando_Cueva Black Indians were in the Americas tens of thousands of years before the Mongolians migrated here. The Olmec, Mayans, Aztecs, Seminoles and yes King Phillip's tribe (Pocahontas brother) was copper colored people.
@@Rolando_Cueva what we have now are the descendants of $5 indians. There were more Black people taken out of South America than brought into the country. We were taught a lie and our history stolen from us just as our land.
@@Rolando_Cueva No, no & no, 'N.A.'s aren't black though", even Blacks lie & call themselves 'copper color' Bcuz they know Columbus called the Taino 'copper color' trying 2 tie them-selves N with N.A.'s whom they believe Columbus was describing. Black is what Blacks called not 'copper color'🤣 N.A. N the U.S. were called "red" Bcuz of painting themselves red.
Only reason a African black person wants to sue to be part of the creek nation is $. Yes some Indians owned slaves and after the passage of the 13th amendment and all enslaved people were freed that yes , Your ancestors could of lived amongst the Creek Indigenous communities, but that doesn’t make you one! Same if a white family grew up amongst the creek nation and all my friends were Creek I went to Creek church I was getting creek news letter and for a time they could of unknowingly been sending me checks but that doesn’t make me a Creek and I would have no legal standing! The only reason there is any question is because like most things it’s about money!! If there was no money to be gained they wouldn’t care about being included and there wouldn’t be any law suit! Just IMO!
All the Freedmen that have zero American DNA, wouldnt have the tribes best interest first, like Muskogee Cree Indians would. Its only the love of money that they're suing for.
I got my husband and kids their Creek citizenship last year. It was a lot of work, but we got it done.
Do you get a bunch of free stuff by being enrolled?
How u do that im creek to
@@douglaspinkney4597 Sure you are.
Would you please enlighten me on the process. My email is mouthpieceab@gmail.com
Hello, what process did you use to get this accomplished?
I just found this video and one of my relatives is in the video I am happy to see her and what.
WE ARE NOT AFRICANS!! The word African is named after a white settler. We are the original people of this land and Gods chosen people the hebrews. Fact check it by doing the research.
God did tell the world N the Bible that N the last days of the world that knowledge would increase, & DNA is knowledge that was unheard of not long ago but now its used everywhere N the world Bcuz we are living N the last days & knowledge has increase DNA can tell anyone where they originate
As a creek from Alabama I totally agree.
Nupuqi om-re Khonectics will guide you
I'm Alabama Creek
There are also creek Indians in Tennessee too
@@alive2583 Many Indians live abroad too & work N every city N the U.S.
@@stormy-le6pb Indians from India? Cause aborigines from America’s who built this country are black
I've never had any formal test done to verify or substantiate what my paternal grandmother used to tell me. But she ALWAYS reminded me that I was a Black Creek Indian. I need to find out.
A formal test can't show you that , only genealogy
@@stormy-le6pb I'm just going by what my paternal grandmother told me. You do have Poarch Creek and Muskogee Creek. I'm not an expert on this. I'm still learning.
Those test are all lies !
There is no test
Well, Elizabeth Warren had her "family stories" about being Cherokee. No disrespect toward your family, but genealogy is a matter of knowing one's family tree.
The Creek fought for the Confederacy in the Civil War.
After, on August 11, 1866, the Creek accepted & signed their Reconstruction Treaty with the federal government. ( more than a year after "Juneteenth")
Concessions were made by all 5 of the tribes. The first was to abolish slavery and give the Freedmen tribal rights. The Cherokee, Creek, and Seminole treaties gave the Freedmen unqualified rights, but the Choctaw and Chickasaw treaty gave them the choice of being adopted into their nations or being removed by the federal government and settled elsewhere.
Creek (Muscoge) Tribe will have records of their Freedmen families in their Tribal Enrollment Office. If you find a bloodline ancestor there, you can apply.
Be careful of the 5 dollar so called Indians, be prepared to battle. Only the Creator can direct us
The $5 Indian are the black people. U need 2 look out 4 UR own $5 Indian black people. The head leader of the '$5 Indian' Calloway was arrested 4 selling fake '$5 Indian' genealogy charts 2 desperate gullible black people🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am Of Creek nation. My family has land in Alabama. My family were identified as black. I want my true nationality restored. What can I do?
That's what I'm trying to do let's try to help each other and get this right I'm on ancestry
@@treysperformance2804 Have you ever heard of Jane Gibson? Her family was Native American and they were wrongfully enslaved by plantation owners in the tidewater area of Virginia. They had to take it to court to prove that they were Native.....it was proven, but they still don't know what tribe the family was from. Some say Pamunkey or Cheraw.......nobody ever thought to ask what tribe!
I would suggest that u and ur family do yall genealogy period let Ancestry DNA tell it im 93% African which is a bold-faced lie! I have gone back to the end of the 1700s and there are no African ties for my family on either side.... get birth and death records first it'll save you a headache I promise ONLY USE ANCESTRY TO DO YOUR FAMILY TREE DO NOT MESS WITH THE DNA TEST...
The first slaves were “Indians” so, maybe they were the ones who looked Black, so-called “Negroes?” This history is not widely taught but is important to understanding how so many “Black” Natives ended up as slaves alongside the Africans when it was finally a race-based system. Learn about the Virginia and surrounding region Native peoples because a good many of Black Indians actually originate from them long before the wars. It is documented history.
And I agree with someone here about not using the superimposed term of “African American.” If there are those blended of both peoples (negros da terra [Indigenous], the negros de Guinea [Africa], there is no shame. It’s society and the colonizer who separated the darker Hurd Native people.
“Hued”
My grandmother was creek Indian ; middle ga. Retired USN
So was my grandmother from Cochran Georgia
Mine too Hartsfield Ga just learning about my great great grandmother was Creek Indian
How the criminal colonizer get to say who’s ‘civilized’? 🤔
God enacted laws for people 2 live by. Read the 10 commandments. His commandments is how ppl are civilized.
We stayed behind as share croppers in Alabama near the Holy Grounds between Selma and Montgomery,on my mothers side.
My moma was a dark skinned woman she was creek from Jackson's Gap where Andrew Jackson killed most of my ansestors.my daddy was Irish and my whole family worked for a Mr.Banks that owned the big house and I picked cotten for 5 years when I was a little girl.I think it is Great that I see my people fight for there rights .hang in there and God bless.
@@brendacolquitt1676 It not just dark skin, its having Mongoloid ancestry. Many Creek are mixed with European & R light skin, but yet they are still Creek Indians.
I am Asberry and have been going up against Muskogee offices for years. Have gotten birth and death certificates. Collected info from other relatives, including numidents. Bottom line they do not want us to have it. They kept my paperwork and told me they lost it and sent me a denial letter.
They are very dismissive.. I believe the Lakota would have done the same to Kyrie if he wasn’t famous. It’s sad which is why I don’t gaf about having it. My great grand is on the roll but they can keep it with their racist asses.
They don't want indigenous Niji apart of true Creek nation ...we are the true Yamassee
@@TheDjspin57 Quit lying. God said, All Liars Have Their Part N The Lake Of Fire. If U don't repent & become born again B4 U pass away from this life into eternal life, U will have 2 B hurled into hell 4 all UR unconfessed sins of lying, covetousness, which is idolatry, slander, stealing, murder, swindler, etc...
@Poetic Dreamer U should have a copy of UR paper work & where ever U got it, U should B able 2 get it again. If U were Creek, they would enroll U, but obviously U have zero Creek ancestry & can't B enrolled, so UR taking it out on the Creek nation & slandering them. Remember God hates slander & said Slanderers won't inherit the kingdom of heaven.
@@yahya4370 Creek nation isn't racist Bcuz they do enroll U if U have proof. I bet UR gr-grand on the roll was listed on the Freedmen non-Indian list & thats why U can't enroll. Bcuz U don't have proof doesn't mean Creek nation is racist. Its Bcuz Ur not Creek & refuse 2 believe it.
Just take the African out of it. Not African
Those people are African descendants
Freedmen have to have documented proof that they have a Creek ancester in their genealogy with a Dawes Roll Number before they can be enrolled in the Creek Nation.
Creek is Creek! The US Government Census workers tried to beat the Creek from my relatives by repeatedly attempting to change their status each census from Creek Native American, to White, to Hispanic, to Negro. Very happy for everyone one to have their heritage restored.
Fellow Creek family both pre and post Dawes list. I think some of my relatives were their with you from the Boyd and Harjo family. Smiling.
And the Lyles and Gunn families.
That's right go get what's yours CREEK NATION👊👋
I need help cuz my father is a Creek Indian
Sovereignty
An what are they going to get??? Nothing no money no land lol
I just found out that my father's grandmother which is my great-grandmother is full-blooded Creek Indian being from Greenville Mississippi
Creek were not Indigenous to Mississippi unless transplanted. Tribes of Mississippi were Yazoo, Choctaw and others but not Creeks. I am not saying that no Creeks are there. I'm just saying that if you have ancestors that you say are Creek then somewhere down the line they come from Georgia, Alabama, and Northern Florida. The Siminole are not Indigenous to South or Central Florida prior to breaking away from the Creeks of Georgia, Alabama
@@SADDLTRAMPKeith yup because Europeans were transplanting everybody from their homes back then with forced migrations etc so it's not shoc I ng if some tribes ended up in other places look up chief warhorse on CZcams she's got lots of info on this
@@truthteller1160 True, Creeks ancestral lands was Alabama and Georgia and Choctaw's ancestral lands was Mississippi. You can find information very easily.
@@truthteller1160 what's you black Americans fascination with being native to America y'all have yet to show any scientific data to back up these lies just he sayy grandparents said it and a bunch of out dated written books of Christopher Columbus saying he seen darkskin people y'all do realize black Americans are not the only people in the globe who has those skin colors right y'all also know regardless if it's your grandma great grand who ever that she or he can be fabricating tales I lived in the south and got family out there and them elders no offense are full of shit they was taught by the white man to be anti African and to adopt all the European ways of life and they pass that shit down to the younger ones I seen dudes blacker then me with no native features talking about they grandmother said they got Indian then when they take a DNA test they have little to no native blood in them you ever heard of the buffalo solder well those were African Americans working with the white man to hunt down real natives so explain this to me if y'all so native to America why whould y'all help a foreign enemy on your land to hunt down Indians I'm confused also why whould the white man go to Africa to get black slaves if they were all ready here why do every black American I run across have last names that sound English better yet if blacks we're always here we're did they orgins come from don't tell me they been here since the beginning of time are just magically appear in America why do Indians still speak there own language can one of you negros tallk in your native language so y'all liying ass grandmother claims y'all family always was here and can recant history from centriues ago but she can't tell y'all what y'all spoke before the white man introduce y'all to English so the stories of all our black heroes are fake then why did escape slaves need the help of the natives to navigate through the United States if they always was here I got family that lived in the south and some can't even tell me how to leave the area there in much less no the United States you people are pathetic and it's quite sad y'all think being African is a bad thing the white man have nothing to gain by liying about shit they run and own the United States liying to 15percent of the population isn't going to do much for them they can care less if your Indians are not most of y'all is doing this in the hopes to get native benfiits just like the whites who do it there is nothing to prove black Americans are native to America but a bunch of CZcams videos with Afrocentrics showing books misinterpreting texts and saying there copperd colored what about Michael Jordan Bernie mac Wesley Snipes these brothers are American born them and there family and they don't look copperd color to me blacks don't just come in one color so that whole copperd color is made up bullshit y'all people are some real trators to your people and when it's time for all blacks to unite and the white man start putting his knees in your back stay y'all asses right with him with that fake indian shit
@@miguelpatrick79 u big 😠 boy shut the fuck up 😂😂😂
USA did that Not cause y’all was Africans But Aboriginals of America speak it 💯
Again, folks. DNA don't lie. Lying can't get you anywhere because there is DNA. Thank God for DNA. He knew before people knew.
Natives have always had melanin
Yes but that doesn't make them black💀 now you can be mixed but this talk about native americans are supposed to be black is the stupidest shit I've ever heard
@@Josh-fj9hi you are right!!! It's one thing to be from Native ancestor's, but another to tell them that they have been African all along, will not work! That's like taking ownership of someone's heritage, you can't do it.
It depends where Indians lived how dark the melanin N their skin was. Indians N the north had lighter brown skin & Indians near the equator had darker brown skin. But every N.A. N North America including Mexicans & South America Indians all have the same A.B,C,D,X haplogroups N their DNA that blacks & whites don't have Bcuz they are foreigners.
Why do we have to go through so much just to be who we are and be treated with respect? I don’t agree with being bonded to a piece of paper. They can keep that dum diversas and all the rest of their contracts. Being free is being contract free. No ties. We don’t need corporate citizenship. Time to stop asking for our rights and demand what’s rightfully ours.
Just curious, what are you demanding that is rightfully yours other than what you own and your personal rights as a human being? What else in life is there to ask for? We all as people cannot ask for something our descendents had and or lost. Reparations for anothers deeds. A Man of any race will always stand up and build his own world. Not expect anything from another. What you work for is what your owed and no one can ask for more. Not me. Not you
EUGENE MAYS You're not Native American that's why. This black guy is getting all of your money and is going to lose it all and the lawyers are going to be laughing all the way to bank.
EUGENE MAYS I think that this man got this great idea that he could get lots of money from the Freedmen by telling them that he can make the Creeks take them back in as Freedmen like what happened to the Cherokee, so these freedmen are giving him all their money, but all he is doing is spending it, and then the lawyers are in on it and are all laughing all the way to bank.
@@SADDLTRAMPKeith he probably means he'd like back some of what the identity thieves have stolen
After all the hard work the true aboriginals aka Indians put into their communities that were stolen etc
Hrs probably just kind of grieving in his own way over lost time
@@truthteller1160 When your ancestors were free from slavery, they owned nothing except what they collected N their slave houses, so U ppl today own way more than ur ancestors ever did. If UR trying 2 say UR Native American, then UR a liar, Bcuz ur not, & so imported African blacks didn't own land & resources that Natives owned, so Sorry. Don't grieve over nothing U never had, Bcuz u never did have land & resources here.
I'm curious what was the deciding verdict in this case or is it still pending?
@Dante Shaw Legally speaking: Indian tribes cannot B sued N state court without their consent. This provision is what’s known as “sovereign immunity.” American constitutional law teaches that federal & state governments cannot B sued N court absent their consent, a doctrine that predates the formation of the Constitution.
I'm creek from Alabamu as well
@wade zack Its lust & greed for Casino money. ("For the Love of Money is the Root of all Kinds of Evil") 1 Tim. 6:10
I don’t know why my black brethren would turn away from the most triumphant legacy in the America’s either. But how can you tell her percentage of race? Are you some type of professor x mutant?
@Blind Mice IMO the Black Nationalists are who started this, because of the FoxWoods Casino decades ago, because it makes them feel good to be racist. Blacks hate White, so they might as well hate the N.A.'s too.
@@stormy-le6pb You are the spokes person for all blacks. Saying Blacks HATE white people is a falsehood and speaks to your own racism. SMH
The people with negative comments should do your research. It's not about money it's about the truth. You $5 Indians should just come clean. No response needed
so people want to look out for the Creek in Oklahoma but what about us Creek that stayed behind in Georgia? Who fights for us? this needs to be less narrow
Team Libra I’m from North Florida we must do the same as them and continue waking up family ✊🏿 Tribe 🏹🏹
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Georgia and Alabama
trace your ancestor to the Creek tribe........then prove it is all.
@Team Libra U must have proof in the form of a birth or death certificate, then take that to the enrollment office & they will enroll U there. Call the Creek Nation enrollment office 4 more information.
I love this. I hope they win their lawsuit. This is something that has been taken away from the copper colored creeks. Me and my family have all known all our lives that we are creeks. Some people say, you can't be a native American, your black. Or look black. But we know copper colored people were on this continent a long long time.
@@stormy-le6pb You know, you really had a lot to say but you didn't give me any proof to the fact that copper colored indigenous people were not on this continent before anyone else. All you can say is that a slave master made the copper colored people. Which sounds stupid. Ok let's say some slave owners did father some children. There is still no way that they could have fathered all the tribes that we're on this continent at that time. It's funny how you try to bring up a slave owner, like every slave owner was fathering children. No sir. I can say today that there are way more black men having children with white women then there ever was during this slavery time. Even with that. It's still not enough to over take all of our population of today. You really need to educate yourself. Because your really looking like you don't know what your talking about..
And you are speaking to a native American. My family is on the D rolls. So I have direct blood lines. Native and indigenous..
@@RaathloveTV-u5m Blacks are constantly telling me to educate myself, when its you blacks that need to educate yourselves. You are the ignorant one. Theirs plenty of proof that Blacks are imported Sub Saharan African Bantu Nigerians & other west coast African Nations & of course theirs proof that all African Americans have European DNA. Its all in the DNA but of course Blacks lie & say DNA is a hoax, because it won't lie for you, but DNA proves that Blacks origins are in west coast Africa, of the Nigerian, Swahili, Igboo, Congolese, & Cameroon African Nations, & if you watch those DNA test videos, every African American show up with European DN, so you are a black European or a European African. Blacks don't realize it but DNA technology only gets better as time marches on, so you can't call it a hoax forever. One day it will be required for everyone to have their DNA results handy, & people will see then that African Americans are just African Bantu and European. You can lie about it now, but in the near future, Blacks won't be able to lie about it at that time. LOL
@Ralph Escoe the proof that every African American is European is in the DNA and it didn't get there if there wasn't sex going on between blacks & whites during slavery days. Only 1 in 20 blacks have Native American DNA & that is because the Natives were rounded up & forced off of their ancestral lands, to Indian Territory, where Natives were left to themselves until the Land Rush in 1889. A geneticist did a DNA test on the Cherokee freedmen & found that only 6% had Native American DNA, & they had large percentages of European DNA. Slave Master's fathered mixed race children from African slaves before they sold them to the Natives. LOL
@@RaathloveTV-u5m If you have Native blood line, then why are lying for Black Nationalist & Afrocentric false prophets? You are not Native or you wouldn't be lying for them. Natives know who we are, & so does the world, so quit your lying. God said coveters will not inherit the kingdom of God, & to covet you have to commit all the other sins first to finally become a person who sinfully covets. First it start with envy, then jealousy, then hate (same as murder), then lying, then stealing from your neighbor. God tells you to love your neighbor, but coveters hate their neighbor, which is why God said coveters will not inherit the kingdom of God. Blacks don't realize that coveting did not go away with the ages, but that God said his words will not pass away, so to keep you family from falling into the depths of hell & burning for eternity you should read about that sin called covet & read why God hates it so much & why he will just throw anyone who covets into hell fire to burn for eternity. Coveting Native American identity is not worth burning in hell forever for.
If you are Creek, you are not African, because your ancestry does not originate from Africa.
Your ancestry is on this land called America. If you are Creek, you are not American, because your ancestry is pre-american, that is before this land was named America.
Creeks became citizens of America N 1924, so yes Creek are American, 1st Americans.
They did not call themselves African. Your not Indian if you are of African descent. We are the indigenous people NOT of African descent
@THE CHARM Take a DNA test. It can't tell U if UR a Creek, but it can tell U if UR related to other ppl who identify as Creek & U can share information. If UR DNA don't come up with American DNA, then UR not N.A. cuz all bones here R only of the 1st ppl here, the Mongoloid N.A.s. Blacks haplogroup R the L's & it originate N Africa. American DNA are A,B,C,D,X.
I'm of Creek heritage from Georgia and Florida (southern ) relative of Seminole in Miami Fl.
Same.
I was always told we are Creek Indians, being from Montgomery County in Georgia, I did not know why they work so hard to keep us from knowing who we are
Because like everything in this country, it's about ownership. They have and want to continue to dispossess the rightful peoples of this land their birth right so that "they" can stay in control.
God 😂 that’s an illusion just like African Americans are African is an illusion also elders and ancestors will tell you how they brainwashed us to thinking everybody came off a ship called Jesus 🤦🏽♂️
...... UR Creek ancestor & find out, U have no such proof & can't enroll Bcuz it was just a myth & not true that UR family were Creek Indians & that makes Blacks mad & start 2 hate Indians & slander them 4 being racists. Creek nation do enroll Indians with Black ancestry. They don't try 2 keep blacks from knowing who they are. UR were lied too by UR family.
You really don't know? Then you need to educate yourself. Start with the book: "An Indigenous Peoples' History of the United States (read the version For Young People) by Roxanne Dunbarr-Ortiz. Then step up to: "Black People are Indigenous to the Americas: Research Material for the Inquisitive by Kimberly R. Norton.
@@lolageorge511💯🪶Ty
Catawba…the tribes no what happened 😢they allowed them to kick us off our lands to maintain their federal status
I'm very very happy 2 see this go down....we the people know who we are American aboriginal copper color Indian real talk....
UR ppl of evil & wickedness & have a great lustful desire N UR heart 2 covet a history thats not URs, so U wickedly desire 2 steal it, that's a sin that will cause U 2 B thrown into the lake of fire 2 burn 4 eternity. U think its alright 2 steal, but God says thieves, covetous ppl, liars, haters & greedy ppl will not inherit the kingdom of heaven, that means U'll B burning N the lake of fire, Bcuz U refuse 2 believe God, instead U follow Satan who wants U 2 covet, lie, & steal.
My ancestors were of the Windclan. Many ended up in Florida. It would be nice for recognition; not money.
We use Aztec & Myan symbolizim & speak Taino (Ladino), nothing to do with Africa!
Derrick Culler The tribes kicked out the freedmen because being a tribe is different than being a citizen of the united states,.Being a citizen of the tribe means that you have Creek ancestry, which freedmen don't have, so they instead become citizens of the United States where it is not required that they have tribal ancestry.
DNA don't lie. Blacks can lie until you're blue in the face, but DNA don't lie.
DNA can only lie, depending on who owns the test or how the people comprehend a test result! The DNA test has already been debunked! DNA doesn't tell a tribe, only certain ancestors, who took the same test; your not going to get your great grandmother 20 generations back, unless she took the same test, by the same company, which didn't even exist, let alone the DNA testing kit, which only test one side of the family, to give a probability of people living in an area or region with the same blood type. So if my Great Grandmother moved from Central America to West Africa in the last Pole Shift, then I guess she's an American African, wich the term did exist! Or during the day's of Prester John, where he talks about the 3 India's; Hindustan (India Minor), Africa (India) & America (India Major/ India Superior), which was also on the maps Marco Polo used. On the National Geographic, Asia edition, that which we don't see; Christopher Columbus is a Black Moor, they actually show his paintings on the ship!
So the Atlantic slaves were white people, called Christian slaves by the Muslims. Black slaves where the term was 1st used, was for the Pacific Slave trade; where the term Black Birding is it's actual name; the main reason why we don't call ourselves black! We are in fact different shades of Brown!
So when someone wants to steal your possessions (Land theft), they have every reason to lie to you! The Quakers created this myth for their benefit, along with Mascovich later in 1933, to tell us we from Africa. Which the part we call Africa was not called that. Only on the Mediterranean area, was it called Ifriqiya by Carthage; setting up colonies like Spain, Rome, France, Morocco, Tania Tripoli & Libya area's; they called South Africa (Arabinia) and have maps to back it up! In the Library of Congress, African American is a code word for Native American! The Book of America by Montanus, has pictures by non prejudice European travelers who painted us how we look back then; as the Aboriginies in America, along with other tribes who traveled here, way before the Columbus myth!
So calling me black or assume I'm African is a lie; which I can and will debunk it!
They are the Creek Indians, those 7 generation bleached out indians are not pure blood! They let white people in but not the Aboriginies. They were told they are African, which Moors joined tribes also back then. Even got treaties in Mexico for land to support it.
@@hushmon3ymuzixproductions610 God created humans & DNA too. He let Scientist look into his DNA creation, because he has a plan. It could be used to gather all his chosen people the 10 lost tribes back to Israel, as prophesied, so you can stay stupid, but DNA don't lie. It will also be used in the very near future, called the Mark of the Beast. Blacks don't want to comprehend that God has a plan for DNA, Blacks hate it because it won't lie for them. There will never be a day that God will change Blacks into Indians. Quit dreaming.
Mary Boyd is clapping from heaven. She never put us on the list. But we are here now!
Mary Boyd?
Marcus Gonzalez 🤣🤣
No. I disagree. Our people are struggling as it is, our elders need money allocated to creeks, not thousands if Africans
The U.S. Tribes are sovereign, and can abrogate any treaty they were coerced into signing.
The U.S. put stipulation that the tribes would have blanket amnesty for any acts before 1866, so the tribes felt compelled because they were thinking "war crimes".
Slavery continued in Brazil until 1888.
In Africa Dr. Stanley Livingstone, a Scotsman, campaigned to stop slavery on his many explorations there. After his death, all slavery did stop, in his honor. There are many statues of Livingstone in Africa today.
Sovereign U.S. Tribes have the right to say who their citizens are, not by force of U.S. govt.
5 dollar Indians have no right to deny us our heritage
@@ajanderson2285 Creek Indians means Creek R the Indians. The $5 Indians 'WERE' white men N the early 1900's that had zero Creek ancestry but gave crooked white government clerks $5 2 B put on the Creek list & those $5 white men R all dead now. The $5 Indians today R the angry blacks who 'wannabe Indians' & slander Creek Indians, which is a sin God hates. He says slanderers won't inherit the kingdom of God.
@@ajanderson2285 UR absolutely wrong. Yes Creek nation can deny ppl enrollment, who can't provide proof with their birth certificate. Even N.A.'s who believe they have some Creek ancestry must also prove with their birth certificate that they R Creek & those Indians also will B denied if they can't show proof.
@@ajanderson2285 Indian tribes R sovereign & set their own rules regarding tribal enrollment & membership. Indian tribes R like a huge family, they R all related 2 one another in one way or another & they know who their relatives are & aren't. U would have 2 fill out a genealogy chart & list the name of UR Creek ancestor & provide his death certificate 4 proof.
Why the people saying "so-called " We are African descendants. I agree that you may have the rights to receive benefits. But We are African first. They surely enslaved your Ancestors. That's with out doubt. Why isn't Freedmen enough? Why be call a Creek. Why isn't that insulting to you.? You are literally bragging about your ancestors being treated as property .
You MIGHT be African but majority of us are Indigenous here!
@@shunthatdude2773 DNA test results can determine who is indigenous or not. DNA don't lie. Studies already show that only one out of 20 blacks have any Indian DNA.
@@stormy-le6pb No it can not
@@shunthatdude2773 You're still living in the dark ages
@@stormy-le6pb Better than being in the White ages and believing it!
Creeks of African descent...I did not know about this. I had a dream of a man telling me to look at Creek Native Americans and that brought me to this video...wow
Everyone on this planet is of African descent, We are original ppl. Native to the America’s! He was being a bit apologetic is all. We need to be unapologetic about who we are
@@m3vm3 Blacks UR lying urself 2 hell. Don't U want 2 live N heaven with God? The only ppl that can enter heaven R those who R born again N Jesus & U have 2 confess UR sins 2 Jesus & repent from them & accept Jesus as UR Savior. UR telling lies to urself & 2 other blacks. Blacks need 2 read the bible to know truth. the truth will set U free.
Guale Moskogee Creek, we in here! But we aborígenes to the Carribian not Africa.
They have chosen to Celebrate both of the ancestors. The Creek ancestors and there African Ancestors! It's beautiful.
How can I get information on this? My 3rd Great Grandmother was full blooded Muscogee we're here in Alibamu
contact the Creek Nation of Oklahoma
Not was, Is full blooded, nothing stopped because of you
Check out Dane Callaway's channel on CZcams. He has videos explaining how to trace your heritage.
@@sandraersin Dane Calloway is a false teacher that is prophesied 2 arise N the last days of earth & we r living N the last days of earth. Can't anyone see whats happening around U. It means we r living N the last days of earth. Soon & very soon, millions of ppl worldwide will vanish off the face of the earth called the Rapture of the Church & then the Tribulation will begin. After that all ppl will have only 7 1/2 yrs left to live ur life on earth if the Anti-christ don't kill u 1st. He will have 2 billion ppl killed.
There were many of us who never made the trek on the trail of tears. Our Creek ancestors of Burke County Georgia were enslaved on the plantations. Many of them had their indigenous identity stripped by the Dawes Commission and labeled “Negro”. I am one of those descendants.How do I petition the Creek Nation Cherokee Nation. I am a Gulph of the Gresham Plantation in Waynesboro, Georgia. We are Creek, Yamassee and Cherokee
Yamasee got wiped out in 1700's The remnant that remained called themselves Yamacraw. Even the Tuscarora left the area to join the Iroquois Confederation.
@@AmigoKandu clearly untrue because I’m here and my children are here. My linage in America goes back before 1790. My people were enslaved on their own lands. We were wiped out with a stroke of a pen during the Dawes act. It wasn’t until then that we were labeled Negro on their Census. So, the history scholars are deliberately lying about who the indigenous peoples of America are.
@@naadir79 Take a DNA test 2 see what percentage of N.A. U have. DNA can't tell U what tribe U come from though, just how much percentages a person has, but with DNA, they tell U what ppl U R related 2 & U can contact them 2 find out more about how U & they R related & if they have Creek ancestry.
I need to speak with you
Need to speak with you I’m from midville ga where plantations surround us
I am a creek and we use blood quantum to determine who gets in that’s why these fools lost this case. Either your on the Dawes rolls or you go get a job and stop acting like the world owes you reparations cause as a true native this lawsuit is offense and it amounts to begging and cultural appropriation.
Your grandmother my people, we related to Alston family.
nice ebonics
is*, we're*
I texted to fast while behind the wheel. Can't text while in traffic. But u can comprehend it!
They bucking on yall cause the whole state of Georgia, Florida & Alabama would get recognized.
As the real Creek Confederation.
I agree with everything that's going on, but we have got to stop calling us Africans, how can we be Native Americans then turn around and say Africans, we are not only indigenous to this country but, we are the Hebrews of the bible.
The majority of the creek did not agree to the treaty. It was signed without majority approval.
That’s my family lineage
Hell no! My family lineage are Seminoles why would I troll something like this?
@@Spiritofmyancestors_71 I bet Seminoles don't claim U though.
I have no problem adding them too our rolls as long as they’re blood quorum is measured.. Also there is no black creek it’s black and creek.
I jus found out i own 100 acres in winn Alabama Salem creek nation
How does owning land connect to being a dang Indian? There were no black Indians, even if you owned 10,000 acres, how do you connect that to being an Indian? Indians owned our ancestors like people own dogs and cats, what is the fascination with being counted among them? I have nothing against Indians just curious.
@@BlindMice-wq9zq search black Seminole and then just shut the fuck up
@@stormy-le6pb Im so fucking tired of you. If black people aren't indians then why are mayans and aztecs dark brown with dreads and braids and shit??? Explain to me who these people are research.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=3338907&page=1&partId=1&peoA=14502-2-70&people=14502
and who are these kids jcb.lunaimaging.com/luna/servlet/workspace/handleMediaPlayer?lunaMediaId=JCB~1~1~1676~2460003
get a fucking life. And yes Seminoles are black. Gullaha and Seminole are the same fucking thing
Realhistoryww
Mississippians: and other Ancient Black Americans WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE???
AND THESE PEOPLE??? realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Americas/US_and_Canada.htm
No one is claiming to be shit. No one is claiming to be a straight haired mixed indian. We are saying we were here too. Only 400k africans were brought here
Well 2016stormy Is historically right in saying American Indians or the indigenous population of the Americas were not some predominantly negroid morphological/ phenotypical population with predominantly southern Saharan African genetic ancestry like most African Americans or Afro Caribbeans. Mayans were not some negroid black population group like African Americans who are a post Colombian population group. Brown ski pigmentation doesn’t automakers equate tto African Americans or black people . Brown ski pigmentation is not confined only to people of African descent . South Asians , Arabians and western Asian people have brown skin pigmentation but that doesn’t make them you . Solely using skin pigmentation as some measurement metric stick to demonstrate genetic ancestral relationship or group relationship is very problematic and inaccurate.
@@fabbeyonddadancer no it is not historically right
Who told them that they were African
You're ancestors bones told you
@@stormy-le6pb the Spaniards that brought slaves😎😎😎
@@CopperJedi Blacks think people back then were so dumb that they didn't know what a Black man or Negro was. LOL The Spaniards had a Negro man with them, so they knew Blacks were African. Afrocentric blacks of today are the dumb ones, since you think white people didn't import you to america. LOL
@@stormy-le6pb how much they paying you to spread disinformation and propaganda???😂😂😂 cuz anybody that's doing the real research know you lying put your sources against mine i bet i blow u out the water and send you back under the rock in the cave u crawled out of😂😂😂
@@j.allmanmacppllc1649 I didn't know ppl could get paid 2 write comments on YT. I sure wish I was getting paid. Blacks must B getting paid 2 write lies, it's an ill gotten gain, Bcuz God said liars will not inherit the Kingdom of God. N.A.'s never lived in Rocks, dummy, except maybe for the Anazazi who lived on the side of cliffs. God led our N.A. ancestors 2 America & shut the door behind them & N.A.'s lived n isolation for 1000's of years. The reason God did that can be read in Acts 17:26. God want's N.A. 2 B living in the Kingdom of God too.
Creek Pride North Florida
That isn’t a Muslim name , it is an Arab name
wade zack wade Zack FOH
If you are Creek why do you use that picture of an African as your avatar?
Blind Mice I’m not African the original huemans looked like me
My third great-grandmother was a full-blooded Creek Indian.
@darkeagle It's YOU who are the "troller." It's "troll" instead of "troller." My family is from Fulton County, GA. My paternal family has a heap of Creek Indian heritage in our blood. Get your facts straight, and learn how to spell. Try passing the damn English class, and then come call me a troll. I have a life. God bless you.
The Creeks/Muskogee were REDSTICKS
Yes I have my citizenship but I need to update. My family came from the trail of tears.
I am Taskigi descendant most my family still resides in East Central Alabama. I've traced ancestors back to the Chickasaw rolls although Taskigi was a tribe in the Mvskokee Confederacy. That alone tells me some bs was going on back then. Keep the fires burning 🔥
East Alabama here, I was also told by my grandmother that her mom's side is from the blackfoot tribe...do some research on the treaty of cusseta
How did you confirm the rolls?
@@stormy-le6pb Lmao wow you’re angry as hell at life
@@stormy-le6pb bruh you haven’t even answered
@@stormy-le6pb Who cares. Who runs the world though?
Got all the paperwork my momma and her daddy his daddy all of them are registered Let’s Go Creek Tribe
@jovon frazier You still could be lying, You don't show evidence.
My family is Creek Indian by way of Alabama, my dad family is Creek Indian
Our citizens are of our blood...I'm sorry, no disrespect...but I do not agree with freedman's becoming FULL citizens...we barely get help now and adding more citizens (non blood) would really delay our help for the rightful native American blood
But truth and facts are do easy to find?
@@CaramelCali truth and facts...may not be easy to find but tell me how a person that was owned and then given freedom should be listed on the native American rolls when native Americans culture of the old ways had rules on who was apart of there nation. There's nations that don't allow anything blood quatum under half and people that don't even have a drop of blood of Native blood should receive our benefits 🤔once again our culture and ways are being ignored by the government and we are told who to allow in our tribes and our nation's.
You know, I'm almost see-through white, yet I'm a citizen of the Creek nation. I don't understand why they shouldn't be able to claim their heritage too if it's proven like everyone else's, by blood...??? But I'm reading comments that there isn't a blood connection? How can you claim to be something you're not?
Ethnicity and blood are two different things. Blood may empower but it does not restrict culture and heritage. French lineages in Morocco are not gonna abandon their berber culture and islamic faith to go back to france and germany to become druids.
you just did
I need help My Father was Creek
What do you mean. Be proud of that. If you are Creek/ Seminole apply to the reservation
Zainab asiyah check out Phoenix moon indigenous on CZcams she has a lot of information on the legal aspects and can point you in the right direction
Also chief two hawks has a channel on CZcams and gives great advice he's very respected and he's reunified his tribe from the Narragansett I think
@Truth Teller Blacks can't seem to understand that God is who is in control of all things under the sun & He loves it when people love Him back & worship Him & adheres to the commandments he gave us to live by & blesses those who worship him & what blacks don't understand is that many Native peoples are christians & are called Children of God & He takes care of his own, which Blacks can't understand. If God be for us then who can be against us. Many blacks love God too & God takes care of them too & of course he loves White people too & takes of them also, so the point is God will not let anything bad happen to Native peoples because many of us belong to Him & he says he hears our prayers & we are supposed to be praying for our nations, the United states & our indian nations. blacks are citizens of the United states & natives are citizens of the United states & our tribal nations, so we pray for both nations. blacks can't understand this much about Natives, thats why you never got past an inch. God is who one needs to pray to & he don't bless sin.
@@truthteller1160 You don't know God or read his word, so you don't know that God had everything planned from the beginning to the end for all nations on earth before the creation of the world and it all centers around the the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the reason is because there is only one way to heaven and that is by Jesus, so after Jesus rose from the dead, it was time for the world to know each other again so that the Gospel of Jesus could reach all lands including the lands of the Native Americans. Not all Natives believe in God, but many do and that is the very reason that God let columbus sail the seas to America, so that Native peoples could hear of the good news that Jesus shed his blood just for all people so that we all could live in Paradise, including native Americans. God does not want one human to go to hell, thats why he is warning blacks of what you are doing is a sin that will keep you out of Paradise and He is using me to tell you, because no one out there cares enough to warn you, and its not trolling or race baiting, its a warning from God. It is what it is.
@@stormy-le6pb you can't covet what's rightfully yours and I'm talking about ones identity not stuff
I couldn't care less about stuff but the truth does matter
And true proof like ones paper trail and bloodlines that they can prove through documentation ,oral history and archeological evidence can no longer be denied
It is what it is
I have no ill will towards any one and I do trust The Most High God, The Creator of all Creators
To take care of all of His people and all those who aren't trying to block truth and trying to live honestly and riteously of every kind
No one can say they love the Creator if they don't seek and love truth and we all need to be on the side of truth whatever we find out that it is
About time I'm of Indian decent but only proof I have is my great Grandmas was Apache Creeks, and Lord knows what else where do I go from here
You know...I have the same question myself. All kidding aside.
Find the governing body of your suspected tribe and inquire.
I told my brother my grandma said she was creek Indian Not Cherokee
#BeenHere before slavery or "out of Africa" propaganda/Theory
GrassRootz Truth exactly my dawg my grandmother told me we are creek the land we occupied is in Decatur ga known as Indian creek
@@rufusbuckganggang3854 Yep
@@rufusbuckganggang3854 land wasn't allotted to Creek in GA. We can tell you're a liar. LOL You people know nothing about Indians. we can tell.
I`m not of Creek ancestry but my Cherokee and Blackfoot Elders never said anything about Afrika. This man either doesn`t know his history or he`s an agent of misinformation. Afrikaans and indigenous are separate terms and people. He has to know this if he is who he says he is... Freedmen or Free people of color were Indians or indigenous people for Afrikans. Even the researchers are now saying that only 92,000 Afrikans were brought to the Americas not the 10.6 million that was taught for years. Since only about 3% percent of the Afrikans were taken to North America they would mean less than 3,000 over a 400 year period! No one should talk about Indians of Afrikan decent anymore.
I would think some free blacks came over on ships, too, like from France and Spain. Blacks folks who had never been slaves.
Cherokee and Black here. Catawbas, Saponi, Tutelu. Tuscaroras. Muskogee
@@liveoak144 Dummy the world knows Blacks today weren't slave, it was UR imported Nigerian, Igboo, Congo ancestors, that were slaves. That same blood running through their veins R running through UR viens, with the exception of the European blood that also runs through all Blacks veins of today. Blacks R still descendants of UR Nigerian, Igboo ancestors
@@liveoak144 No, there’s never been any one crossing from Africa
or anything, much less the Atlantic
Not sure why he kept referring to Afrika or Native Americans of Afrikan decent? This is not something our Elders ever said but then I`m not of Creek decent.
@Derrick Culler Let me ask one question how many black Americans you know with 7 Afrikan great grandparents. The DNA ancestry testing results are telling people they are upwards of 90% West Afrikan. However, there is no testimonial, documentary or physical evidence.
@Derrick Culler You are a poster child for indoctrination. Since you only believe the dominant culture you need to visit the slave voyage website which states there were only 92,000 Afrikan slaves brought to the Americas not 12 million which has been taught for generations. By the way only 3,5% of the slaves were dropped off at North America. That's less than 3, 000 over 400 years. www.slavevoyages.org/
Indians are indigenous Americans. Africans are from Africa. Ain't no damn African Indians
How is this lawsuit going now?
Damn if we Indians that mean we been for reparation
We are!!! Alabama senators were caught saying blk ppl in America are Indians \aboriginals
@@dolomite205 That Senator isn't Native American so he's just as stupid as you greedy covetous Blacks who crave for N.A. identity & history for benefits. DNA don't lie. just 1 out of 20 blacks have any N.A. DNA, what comes up in black is European, so you are white not Indian.
I'm watching from my camper he in Clanton Alabama with my 2 dogs
I cant imagine a scenario where freedman lived with Creeks and the Freedman dont have Creek descent.
I am so happy for your success. I hope we can all discover who we are.
The Creek Nation is beautiful...I'm grateful to know you all.💜💜💜
No need to worry or beg any longer my Freedman brothers and sisters, the time of our justice will come much sooner than later because we are really the tribe of Judah from Israel whom will see the shame of all our rejecters... So read TMH's Word, understand, see and rejoice in knowing our time is nigh.
First off I would like to say that I know this is a toughie subject and everyone has the right to say and believe anything they want even if history is not recorded that way. But some of these comments are down right mean. Through communication we learn to understand each other. Through communication we drop hate and try to understand. Just because my beliefs differ from another's beliefs does not give me the right to disrespect another person's belief. It's always best to keep the lines of communication open. Name calling shuts the door to dialogue. I will continue to search for true history of where we all come from.
SADDLETRAMP KEITH DNA don't lie.
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Thank you a spirit of reason and love steps in
@@stormy-le6pb without proper reference populations, and the static of misinterpreted migration patterns; yes dna can lie
@@xXGuitarNinjaXx DNA testing has improved tremendously, so DNA don't lie. God created it, & what he created don't lie, because God don't lie. You know why God let the Scientist see into DNA? Because he is going to use that to gather all of 12 tribes from every place they were scattered & bring them back to Jerusalem. [("According to God’s prophets, the redemption of scattered Israel shall be accomplished in the latter days (Deu. 4:27-3).
The raising of an ensign to the nations is the signal for Israel to be gathered home in the latter days (Isa 5:26). nations will eventually deliver up the scattered peoples of the Lord, who will return to the lands of their forefathers’ inheritance (Psa 107:1-3; Isa 43:5-6). Of the twelve tribes, the tribes of Joseph’s sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, will be gathered first and then direct the other tribes in their gathering (Gen 48:5-11; Deu 33:16-17)]
I am close a descendants of creek Indians grandmother 100%
I'm with you. I agree.