I don't really know whether to consider myself a hater or not, but I follow these clips waiting for something of Discovery that I'll enjoy. I'll give it credit for its iteration of Cpt. Pike being absolutely wonderful in really bringing more of a sense of the Star trek that I enjoy to the show. My major criticism of the show has always been towards Commander Burnham. I absolutely enjoy the characters of Detmar, Georgiou, Saru, and even Admiral Vance, but every time Commander Burnham comes on to the screen, i am reminded of how little these other characters seem to mean and it's a shame. Saru had a wonderful arc overcoming Vahar-i (or however you spell it). He had a wonderful moment when he had to remove Burnham as his first officer, too, but a lot what Burnham says, her reactions, and actions all feel so off. Her role in the story feels as if it were something that should be shared and fulfilled by all the characters available and not just her. You might ask what is her role and I wish I could articulate it, but I can't find the words for them presently. Discovery has its merits and always will, but I just hope that it stops trying to force Burnham on all of us as the hero of every story and just let situations unfold as they should and resolutions be an effort of all crew members.
This scene, combined with the one where Georgiou returns home, makes me think she'll be the seed that changes the Terran empire in the mirror universe for the better. This would also make for a great spinoff.
Can't be, she arrives back prior to Mirror Spock rising to power. And at the time Kirk crosses over, the Terran Empire was as cruel as it was when Discovery first crossed over in season 1.
Consider how many German scientists who worked for the Nazi were snatched up by the United States following World War II to help America in the Cold War against the USSR. The program was called Operation Paperclip. In politics, there are no permanent allies; no permanent enemies.
@Jonsin 1459 the rest of you should watch the psyche channels on personality traits. Successful business people, politicians, soldiers, anyone, must have the Dark Triad of psychopathy, Narcissism, Machiavellianism, in order to achieve goals, get shit done, and earn wider respect. Nobody respects all talk and no action.
I wonder if Mirror Philippa is related to Mirror Hoshi Sato? Since, we know that M. Hoshi take the Futuristic Federation Ship and take over the Empire. Maybe M. Phillipa is a distant desendent.
I love the character study of Discovery. Why characters act and interact with each other makes for a good story. Some people like action simply for action sake. They also like their heroes white, straight and male. That's fine. There is plenty of those types of stories made every year. They only need to change the channel if a show displeases them.
If that’s the apex of why you think people dislike Discovery, then you need to widen your outlook, and not limit your perspective on those who dislike it. That you found something to like is good. But do yourself a favour. Do not pretend that gender or race is a dividing line for the Trek fans who enjoyed 50 years of Trek before STD. Trek fans of all denominations just need to ‘wear the ears’ and be part of the experience to be accepted. The modern divides inflicted on Trek by activists who sought to divide fans is the bigger issue that permeates into wider society. Not the fans of Trek of any and all ages.
Don't underestimate how bizarre it would be to interact with an exact duplicate of your adoptive daughter from a parallel universe. I mean... ffs stop and think about that sentence for a minute.
Why does Discovery's fitness room use real swords and other bladed weapons for sparring exercises and related training? You would think that dull, blunt practice swords would be the standard outside of the mirror universe.
@@Tamamo-no-Bae I hope that the reason, but aren't Star Fleet replicators supposed to have certain lock outs in place to stop people from creating weapons, and commonly poisonous substances with them or was that introduced after TOS era? You know what I'll give credit if she used programmable matter to make those.
If I had to guess? She replicated them herself. but also? Actual sword feels different from practice sword. It's not something you can put into words exactly they're just... not the same and you move differently because of it. Deliberately and with greater certainty than you would with a dulled weapon or a waster.
The first part of this scene makes very little sense to me. Why choose to use the sparring setup with many pads if you're just going to frustratedly beat on the one pad in front of you? With all the combat she's seen up to this point, even if she was taking out frustrations she would mix up her lack of technique shown here and use a minimum of three pads and use more than pulled punches.
funny how haters keeps complaining and whining but still watch clips like this.
I don't really know whether to consider myself a hater or not, but I follow these clips waiting for something of Discovery that I'll enjoy. I'll give it credit for its iteration of Cpt. Pike being absolutely wonderful in really bringing more of a sense of the Star trek that I enjoy to the show. My major criticism of the show has always been towards Commander Burnham. I absolutely enjoy the characters of Detmar, Georgiou, Saru, and even Admiral Vance, but every time Commander Burnham comes on to the screen, i am reminded of how little these other characters seem to mean and it's a shame. Saru had a wonderful arc overcoming Vahar-i (or however you spell it). He had a wonderful moment when he had to remove Burnham as his first officer, too, but a lot what Burnham says, her reactions, and actions all feel so off. Her role in the story feels as if it were something that should be shared and fulfilled by all the characters available and not just her. You might ask what is her role and I wish I could articulate it, but I can't find the words for them presently. Discovery has its merits and always will, but I just hope that it stops trying to force Burnham on all of us as the hero of every story and just let situations unfold as they should and resolutions be an effort of all crew members.
My biggest complain to Star Trek Discovery is the aesthetics.
Why so dark and glowing? From functional perspective, it's really not good for the eyes.
This scene, combined with the one where Georgiou returns home, makes me think she'll be the seed that changes the Terran empire in the mirror universe for the better. This would also make for a great spinoff.
Can't be, she arrives back prior to Mirror Spock rising to power. And at the time Kirk crosses over, the Terran Empire was as cruel as it was when Discovery first crossed over in season 1.
I think she will be deposed as Empress and will escape back to section 31 in the prime universe.
@@bobojo37 So perhaps an alternate Terran Empire? It has happened before in Trek with at least 3 mirror universes from what I can remember.
It's gonna be tough. Impossibly tough... but probably only she can even try.
Pretty sure established canon created by Star Trek DS9 greatly limits this possibility. Correct me if i'm wrong.
Mirror Georgiou: is a horrible murderer
Prime Starfleet: "Let's hire her!"
Consider how many German scientists who worked for the Nazi were snatched up by the United States following World War II to help America in the Cold War against the USSR. The program was called Operation Paperclip. In politics, there are no permanent allies; no permanent enemies.
Discovery is just a ship full of badasses.
Just a ship full of Bad.
@Jonsin 1459 the rest of you should watch the psyche channels on personality traits. Successful business people, politicians, soldiers, anyone, must have the Dark Triad of psychopathy, Narcissism, Machiavellianism, in order to achieve goals, get shit done, and earn wider respect. Nobody respects all talk and no action.
Michelle is smoking hot...STILL !
I wonder if Mirror Philippa is related to Mirror Hoshi Sato? Since, we know that M. Hoshi take the Futuristic Federation Ship and take over the Empire. Maybe M. Phillipa is a distant desendent.
No. It’s been said by the writers she’s not.
I love the character study of Discovery. Why characters act and interact with each other makes for a good story. Some people like action simply for action sake. They also like their heroes white, straight and male. That's fine. There is plenty of those types of stories made every year. They only need to change the channel if a show displeases them.
If that’s the apex of why you think people dislike Discovery, then you need to widen your outlook, and not limit your perspective on those who dislike it.
That you found something to like is good. But do yourself a favour. Do not pretend that gender or race is a dividing line for the Trek fans who enjoyed 50 years of Trek before STD. Trek fans of all denominations just need to ‘wear the ears’ and be part of the experience to be accepted. The modern divides inflicted on Trek by activists who sought to divide fans is the bigger issue that permeates into wider society. Not the fans of Trek of any and all ages.
That escalated fast.
0:47 Anyone else cheer a bit when Georgiou bitch-slapped Burnham?
It seems like Terrans are Klinglons on steroids.
Klingon ferocity, with Romulan cunning. Truly a terrifying mixture!
That first duck was super early.
For some reason, Michael looks kinda cute in these scenes
I wonder if they'll ever stop mixing up Terrans and Klingons.
I was wondering the same thing
Except this isn’t your Burnham. And you damn well know it.
Very true her Burnham is far more ruthless.
@@demarcusfaulkner7411 Didn’t help her in the end in that stimulated reality, though.
@@gammaxmen it made her the empress right hand. Though it also cost her life.
Don't underestimate how bizarre it would be to interact with an exact duplicate of your adoptive daughter from a parallel universe. I mean... ffs stop and think about that sentence for a minute.
Why does Discovery's fitness room use real swords and other bladed weapons for sparring exercises and related training?
You would think that dull, blunt practice swords would be the standard outside of the mirror universe.
Well...Replicators, she probably made those.
@@Tamamo-no-Bae I hope that the reason, but aren't Star Fleet replicators supposed to have certain lock outs in place to stop people from creating weapons, and commonly poisonous substances with them or was that introduced after TOS era?
You know what I'll give credit if she used programmable matter to make those.
@@nolanwhite1876 I'm pretty sure those can be disabled.
She probably made them herself.
If I had to guess? She replicated them herself. but also? Actual sword feels different from practice sword. It's not something you can put into words exactly they're just... not the same and you move differently because of it. Deliberately and with greater certainty than you would with a dulled weapon or a waster.
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why do i see you in every star trek discovery video
How come she sounds more like a Klingon than a terran?
The first part of this scene makes very little sense to me.
Why choose to use the sparring setup with many pads if you're just going to frustratedly beat on the one pad in front of you? With all the combat she's seen up to this point, even if she was taking out frustrations she would mix up her lack of technique shown here and use a minimum of three pads and use more than pulled punches.
She's mid-workout and we only saw something like 10-15 seconds. She could have been doing more.
Ya know, just because Michelle Yeoh is famous for martial arts roles, doesn't mean she has to use those skills here.
👀 yea but, why wouldn't you want her to
This show is so bad the first episodes released on syndication got beat in ratings by re runs lmfao...