AFCI vs GFCI: What's The Difference and Why You Should Care
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- AFCI vs GFCI: What’s The Difference?
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Breaking down the difference in protection between AFCI, GFCI, Standard Breakers, CAFCI and Arc Fault Circuit Breakers, and Dual-Function Circuit Breakers. If you've ever wondered what any of these do or where you should use them, this is going to completely change how you look at electrical safety.
There are different options available when it comes to AFCI and GFCI protection. For example, they can protect a single outlet (receptacle) or an entire circuit (breaker) depending on what your needs are. The best way to protect against any arc fault (parallel arc, series arc, and ground arc) is by using a Dual-Function CAFCI/GFCI breaker.
Refer to 2020 NEC 210.12 for more information about AFCI requirements
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⏰ Chapter Timecodes ⏰
0:00 AFCI vs GFCI
0:13 What is GFCI
2:05 Standard Breaker Protection
3:02 What is AFCI (Parallel Arc Protection)
4:54 What is CAFCI (Series Arc Protection)
6:26 Dual-Function Breakers
7:02 AFCI Disadvantages
9:35 Is AFCI Worth It?
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GFCI's work by passing the hot and neutral through a coil. As long as the inbound and outbound currents are the same, no voltage will be generated in the coil. If there is a difference, a voltage will be generated and picked up by the circuitry. AFCI's work by detecting high frequency noise on the circuit generated by the arcing. This is why they trip when using brushed motors. I'm sure our old school slot cars would have played havoc with them.
The power packs were transformers with IRRC 1/2 wave selenium rectifiers. Would be interesting to find out.
Thanks for this information, would have been nice if it was included in the video.
@@kamX-rz4uy Darn right! Up till this moment, I found it hard to really trust GFCIs because I couldn't figure out what the detection mechanism was. Now that I know, I can trust GFCIs.
This comment is better than the video
Thank you for taking the time to provide the additional clarification. It's good to know THAT they work, but even better to know HOW they work.
I am a General Contractor in northern California and I became an electrician in the 80's and your video is how ALL videos should be here. Clear, accurate and to the point! Well done!!
Thank you!
Yes, I liked it, too. No fluffing around, just raw information.
As far as I can tell, none of these special devices will protect a human from a shock if the person grabs the hot and neutral at the same time. So some child grabbing and pulling out a plug when their little fingers go round to touch the conductors, before full disconnect, is still not protected. I'm not sure it's actually possible to provide this protection.
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No but since you jogged my memory, it would probably protect from what I did at about two years old.
I remember almost nothing from my youth however this is so vivid in my mind even now many decades later.
IDK if the electricity burned it into my brain or if I remember it so vividly because how all the adults started screaming and freaking out.
We had terrazzo floors and I was barefoot. I found a bobby pin / hair pin on the floor and I promptly stuck it in the wall socket.
It was the type that was kinda “U” shaped and I put one end in each side and was immediately amazed with all the little fire balls jumping and rolling around on the terrazzo floor.
How I wasn’t killed I’ll never know but then again I should have been killed many other times since then as well, I guess the Lord needs me here to be a bad example of stupid things to do.
But ALL your sockets are CRAP
I am an electrical engineer and a contractor and want to say, that it's a very good and easy to understand explanation of AFCI and GFCI protection.
But to be honest, it is not hard to explain what the purposes of the two devices are and how they work, is it?
I mean, it's not as if the presenter is trying to explain how to take a signal in the time domain and convert it to a representation in the frequency domain...now that would be beyond most electricians.
Thanks, I appreciate that!
@@deang5622 you're so SMRT....
@@deang5622 dont be that guy. "Acckkttually..."
Fast fourier transform.....
@@deang5622
Thank you for not embedding background music to this video. I liked the clear explanations and good camera work.
Removed the town mandated AFCI breaker on our refrigerator after two nuisance trips.
Lost hundreds of $$$ in food as we were out of town in both events.
AFCI breakers were mandated after a kitchen remodel. We had NO electrical problems for 23 years before the remodel.
Also removed the AFCI breaker for the 110 volt line that powers the igniters for the gas burners on our stove for the nuisance tripping issue. The oven would loose its flame w/o warning.
CGI can be as bad...this guy is selling FEAR OF ELECTROCUTION...
Yeah screw that. What a pain in the ass.
It is code that dedicated motor loads like your refrigerator and your garbage disposal. Do not have to be GFI. It’s somewhere in section 250 and if you note it is the largest section in the NEC.
Your point about them being required in new boxes put me at ease about why it was so hard to find a combo AFCI/GFCI receptacle today.
Sounds like new house doesn't need AFCI because it's already present at the breaker, old house doesn't "need" it because it's not needed for code. The only people still shopping for them are overly cautious DIYers and special projects.
But I needed a GFCI for the wet areas, and decided to splurge for one for a dedicated microwave line. I'll be happy to have spent the extra $9 total to reduce my fire risk by at least that much.
Luckily, while they didn't really upgrade my breaker, they did re-run most of the Romex. So at least I'm not looking at fabric in this 100 year old house.
Great tutorial. Concise yet easy to understand by non-pros. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
I recently ran a new circuit in my garage because one just didn't exist. The breaker I installed is a combo CAFCI/GFCI because overbuilt is better than underbuilt.
For the common person, like me, this was a good explanation.
Examples of devices that might trip an AFCI would be helpful.
I made a follow-up video about devices that can be an issue here: czcams.com/video/U6TGWmZcDCc/video.html
Wow, this is exactly what I needed, thank you so much! Great presentation as well.
Differences and life-saving benefits made very easy to understand. Thank you.
Thanks for the very clear and concise tutorial and very many thanks for your generous sharing of your professional knowledge.
I discovered that spider nests inside my outdoor receptacles caused my panel GCFI to trip. Replaced the cheap receptacles with commercial grade and haven't had a problem since.
Where do u get cheap electrical products? I needs to know!!!
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Comment about GFCI outlets and circuit breakers. I have installed several GFCI circuit breakers in outside standard "weather resistant" circuit breaker boxes. The GFCI circuit breakers are expensive, do cover all of the outlets and lights on that circuit. What I have found is that the GFCI circuit breakers can be sensitive to the weather conditions outside of the structure that they are placed in. Replacing the GFCI circuit breaker with a GFCI outlet in the first position after the breaker will provide the same outlet protection while still being sheltered from the elements.
I second that, I never install GFCI in an Outdoor Location. Much better to install them near the Breaker Panel. Also walking to the Breaker Panel, gives you time to think off, what you did wrong. BTW WR on the Receptacle Stands for Water Resistant. Always PO’s me when they are installed upside down, so the “WR,” is upside down.
It's what I never understood about some of GFCI outlet installations I've seen where the only one is at the end of a chain in the bathroom or kitchen or having to have a GFCI outlet at every outlet in said area when they are on the same circuit.
It’s totally true humidity and even temperature swings seem to trigger GFCI. Bathrooms are less affected because the outlet is in the wall and humidity/temp swings are short term. Outdoors, and humidity in an outlet can freeze and thaw, displacing the moisture further, causing a false trigger. Of course whether one considered it a false trigger is hotly debated.
Many outdoor devices, for example a Radon fan I recently installed, specifically state not to wire to a GFCI circuit. That seems counter intuitive until you realize it’s service reliability will be greatly reduced throughout the year especially in cold winter months where ice will melt and displace moisture inside the motor housing causing a differential in hot/neutral voltage through resistance from the moisture. Naturally, you can’t install a radon fan or many fans/motors in general of AFCI or CFCI circuits because the brushes in the motor generate the high frequency noise detected by arc fault integrated circuits, causing a false trigger. I believe brushless motors will become more standard over time as integration into arc fault circuits is required by various codes but as it stands now at lease in Chicago where I live many devices can be excluded from arc fault circuits in new construction such as high frequency lighting, motors, pumps, etc.
It's likely that they were only required in the specific locations at the time of installation and early GFIs may not have had the passthrough feature of new ones.
All these descriptions are all well and good but you missed the most important part!
The National Electrical Code (NEC) and the National Fire Prevention Association (NFPA) have made GFCI and AFCI MANDITORY FOR ALL CIRCUITS!
I recently changed out the entire electrical system in my house. Much of it was aluminum wire with cloth covering into ungrounded metal boxes without retaining clamps!
I had to replace everything from the meter to the last outlet box!
The fire inspector showed me in the code book the distances apart, the power limitations, and the protection required.
Needless to say, the job QUADRUPLED in cost!
I don't know how code works where you live, but were I live old circuits are grandfathered, and you do not need to redo them to modern code, if you do not touch them.
Yeah. They've gotten more stringent. I don't do residential, so thanks for the reminder.
Most clearly written and spoken explanation that I have seen on CZcams. I have subscribed because I am hoping that all videos on this CZcams channel are narrated with carefully composed and edited language
Great video. Consider an appendix. Extension cords are the most common source of arcing fires since they are run under rugs and forgotten.
Yes, indeed. Furniture legs, especially metal legs, can cause the wires in an extension cord to short. That's a parallel arc or over-current condition.
I had to install some AFCIs in a new shop building to pass inspection. After the inspection I switched them to GFCIs so I could use tools like a drill or saw that created sparks internally and tripped the AFCI. A 120v drill is liable to be plugged in anywhere in your house, so I'm not a fan.
That’s a great idea until something happens and the fire inspector finds you changed them and then your home insurance is voided by your home insurance company.
AFCI's don't like older vacuum cleaners
@@patrickmorris9710 so get a new vacuum, AFCI’s we’re invented because of electrical fires, not to be annoying.
@@DaveS987sounds like an unintentional side affect is that they are annoying.
@@DaveS987 New vacuum cleaners also trip them. So do fans, hair dryers, some wall warts, and half rectified led lighting.
In 2020 we got a new to us home. We had the service upgraded to AFCI breakers. Within six months a tree in the yard was hit by lightning. That caused every breaker to trip. We had zero damage because of this. I would never go back to standard breakers again. It saved everything electrical in the home and we only had to get the tree removed.
The most clear and accurate explanation of GFCI & AFCI. Keep the good work!
Thank you!
Very well explained. Precise & easy to understand.
Thank you!
Thank you content that is a complicated subject matter explained concisely and succinctly including the practical business standpoint
Thank you for this. I think I'm going to use this video to demonstrate the purposes of these devices. I'm currently working on a retrofit where I plan to replace a lot of receptacles with dual-function units, and replacing some light switches with these newly invented AFCI light switches. Extremely handy for old homes!
Well done professor. Perfect presentation.
Thank you for that information. I think I will act upon it shortly.
Another type of arc occurs when the blades on a plug aren’t in tight enough contact with the contacts in the wall receptacle.
Very Helpful! Well done on the explanation too.
Very helpful explanation!
nice video on explaining the difference between the afci and gfci
Thank you!
If you put GFI breakers in your breaker boxes be sure and label them both prominently and indelibly. Joe Weekend might be asking for a shock when he replaces them with just-as-good breakers, but his kids probably deserve our best efforts to protect them
Excellent info & presentation. Not enough information is made available to the public to be able to make an informed decision so thank you for sharing and placing some light on this crucial subject, It is very much appreciated.
Thank you, and I'm glad you found it helpful!
I noticed that you showed a hospital grade receptacle. I usually purchase those. Worth the extra money.
Great video. Clear and coherent presentation. You are a great tutor.
Thank you very much!
Thanks for these explanations.
Good video! Excellent narration, Subscribed.
Thank You so much for all this detail video!!!!
I had an arcing issue with an outlet in my basement. The hot wire was found to be loose and had carboned up over the years. If it was not for my dog alerting me, (He kept staring and sniffing the outlet) I probably would have had a fire for sure. I could see the glow when I took the outlet cover off! So I would say an AFTI would have worked there. BTW, that dog got a nice juicy steak for his meal.
George B
Good boy.
Dogs are great. Try getting that out of a cat. The cat would watch you burn up in a fire, and then start eating you when he got hungry enough lol
Thank for explaining these. Very well done!
Glad it was helpful!
Very clear explanation. Thank you.
Thanks for the refresher!
You bet!
My new house has AFCI breakers with GFCI receptacles in garage , kitchen and bathrooms. The electrician we hired to hook us to the grid told us that's a costly breakers box but worth it.
30 plus years working as a plant operator at a power plant you get to know breakers well.
By the way well done video.
I bet you do! Thanks for the comment!
exactly what i needed
Good video. I used the combination breaker on my pool pump.
Nice 👍
Excellent video !
When we took over the 30 year old house we live in ,I was amazed by how it passed code,15amp Gfci on a 20amp breaker,non functional, and the other in my garage as well as not functional 2 story house 1989 build.Just recently changed my last fixture in the hall closet,and no suprise ground wasn't connected plastered in place lol.Eventually we will have whole house rewired and replumbed.Good explanation video.
Hey, PJV.... No, I'm sure it was NOT to code; that's why you always want a home inspection before closing.
@@CharlesMartel676 ya i think the in-laws were just trusting that the City Inspector did there job,I was flabbergasted to say the least when we first walked into the house.But frame to finish in 30days is Sketchy back then it was only 3 inspections if I remember correctly 1989-90 when my house was built and finished.Hell even my tile roof is dropping tiles like dollars on a stage.
15 amp gfis are rated at 20 amp feed thru...look at any new gfi in a store....its fine
also if 2 or more plugs in a circuit can use 15 amp plugs on a 20 amp as per the nec
and if you hook the power to the load side of a gfi it wont trip...old landlords trick...
This is a very good video for new homes or a rehab. It's code the more protection the better less of a fire. You might spend a little more or more than you expect, but it worth it . If you work at home it's worth having up dated electrical.
Love your videos!
Well done video! Thank you for this valuable information.
Sure thing! Glad you enjoyed it!
I have AFCI in my trailer, and want to share an experience with regard to nuisance trips. I learned that a battery charger, not connected to load has some sort of issue because when i plugged in, the AFCI tripped. A regular outlet on a circuit breaker does not, nor does a GFCI. I have two of these chargers, the second does not trip the AFCI. Leading me to think that a problem in the first one is likely the cause, so I disposed of it to be safe. Thanks for this video.
Thank you for making this video.. learned so much from it.
You're welcome!
As much as I hate this phrase, AFCI seems like a solution looking for a problem.
Note: HUD in our state wants rentals to have all circuits protected and remember, you can only have one circuit per fault breaker
Great info thanks.
You have one of the best videos I have seen so far... no distracting music and jokes... so eloquent, structured, informative and detailed. And you left that annoying cliche like subscribe and comment nonsense for the end (take it out all together!! everyone says it.. if your channel is awesome people will do it without you telling them to) Keep this kind of content up and you'll b on your way to a million subscribers
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Good explanation.
I'm very sensitive to fire prevention. My close family came home one weekend night, and found the apartment building they lived in on fire. No one was hurt, but the apartment and all its contents were gone. Same for several other apartment. Fire dept was on scene and fire was already under control when they came home.
Investigation concluded that fire was due to old/faulty wiring. Building had good insurance.
The trauma of such a destruction and upheaval struck me hard.
Been very thoughtful about fire prevention and fire suppression since. Photoelectric smoke detectors, fire extinguishers, turning off breakers when I leave the house etc etc.
Thanks for the info!
Wow, thanks for sharing your story. Glad no one was hurt.
Sounds like a terrible thing to happen.
That said, how do you feel about "protection" devices that are so unreliable, they induce people to ignore the very problems they are supposed to protect against, or to just get rid of the devices altogether?
Because that's what AFCI breakers are right now. They are like a smoke detector that goes off at the drop of a hat, whether there's a fire or not.
Oh man this was very helpful thanks for sharing
Glad it was helpful!
Our jurisdiction requires afci on most circuits plus gfci near water usages or when old wiring (non-grounded) is connected to.
Keep in mind that with 128.45 million households in the USA (2020 Census) 35,000 fires means that there is a .027% chance of having a fire. Of which something like half (17,500) may be prevented with AFCI/CFCI protection, about .013% chance of having an AFCI/CFCI preventable fire. This could be broken down further to work out your particular risk. Which is not to say this is not a good idea for protection. I thought your video was good and clear and thanks for making it but I did feel that the number of households is relevant. Thanks for the video.
With the these new code requirements the cost of building just got more expensive.
GFCI and AFCIs outlets only protect down stream. So if you are looking for in wall protection then best to invest in the breakers.
They're way more reliable, too.
Thanks for the nuggets of difference on using the “combination” in lieu of basic AFCI for more robust arc protection. I was trying to figure it why I’d spend more money on what appeared to both be dual function GFCI/AFCI. Now I know if it doesn’t have C/AFCI you’re missing out on that additional point of protection in the circuit algorithm.
Glad it helped! Yeah I really don't see the point in going with AFCI when it doesn't cover everything.
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I’m a resi guy looking for better ways to explain to people how GFCIs work. I always use the same example of the hairdryer in the bathroom. Anyway, great explaination mate!
thanks for this pre sen tation
Thanks.
I installed AFCI breakers on all my old (1955) circuits. However, I had to remove one and go back to the original breaker on the furnace motor circuit. Too many nuisance trips.
There is an issue with GFCI breakers. I have one circuit that supplies an outdoor outlet. When the contractor remodeled the master bathroom, he tied it into that circuit. Now, if the outdoor outlet trips, it affects the bathroom outlet too.
As a house re-modeler i use just GFCIs, also haven't heard of AFCIs before this viewing. 😁
This is a great video
You explained this better than 3 years of vocational school did for me
Aside from cost an issue particularly with GFCI & AFCI circuit breakers is the amount of extra space they take up in a panel. One of these typically takes up the space of 2 normal breakers. The receptacles also take up much more space in a box which can be a problem when there are multiple wire connectors for branch circuits in there.
I've installed several circuit breakers to keep up with code requirements. Also have a couple GFCI receptacles. No problems with the GFCI breaker but had an AFCI breaker fail. Can't confirm why but I don't think it was due to circuit overload & suspect the breaker itself was faulty, nearly caused a fire. I smelled burning, went to investigate & found the breaker scorched at the neutral connection. I disconnected the other AFCI breaker & hooked the circuits back up with standard breakers. No longer trust AFCI circuit breakers after that episode.
In what make of main service panel do afci breakers take up two spaces?
Not all of them take up extra space. Siemens with plug on neutral are same exact size.
@@caseylascallette7269 I have a Siemens panel & both GFCI & AFCI breakers take up double the space I can fit a normal 15 amp breaker.
@@andrewshedron425 See my reply to Casey Lascallette. Perhaps slimmer versions are available now but not when I was looking.
Are you using tandems?
I love the dual function but how well does it work connected to the AC side of a solar system?
thank you, well done!
Glad it was helpful!
It's always a pleasure to watch your videos. Your presentations are well-organized, informative, clear and thorough, so I always take away a bit beyond what I came for.
Thank you for your comment!
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Once got in an argument with an electrician who came to do an estimate at my mothers house.
He kept interrupting and correcting me whenever I said GFCI.
"you mean GFI, ground fault interrupt".
I let it go.
But after he left my mom and I turned to each other.
"yeah, he's not getting the job".
I've been building electronics since I was 10 years old.
My favorite place to hang out when I was a kid was Radio Shack, back when it was more than batteries and cell phones.
My mom was confident I knew what I was talking about, and this electrician was possibly not so great.
Besides, nobody wants to work with a rude contractor.
We found a better guy through a neighbor who runs a construction business.
"... but GFCI is a more common term"
“GFI” was the original common term for them
Thanks mate
Happy to help
Thanks for the info. Most electricians have no idea. I hope some CEU's are required for license renewal. Can you please explain 208 single phase in a residential application?
Have a bathroom outlet 3 feet from sink and outlet is GFCI. House built 2012. Would a wall mounted heater require (or would it be highly advisable) AFCI on plug? Thank you.
Do you know / can you address this subject as it pertains to Recrational Vehicles ( plugged into dedicated 50 amp residential service)? Thank you!
great video
Thanks!
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At the breaker box, I understand this in Romex Code, because rodents chew cables, people drill a hole to hang a TV, etc. can nick or cut the cable. However, In metallic Conduit required locations by Code I am not sure there is a benefit to breakers with the added protection. The protection at the receptacle is likely better for two reasons. #1: GFCI breakers have had the reputation of hyper sensitivity to tripping due to the long line and multiple line loads. #2: No one wants to shleap to the breaker box every time these trip. The average person will want to reset it at the receptacle. Half the time I plug in the blender or specific computer charger in the kitchen, it trips the GFCI. There is no leak between the ground and either hot or neutral and the computer charger is two prong polarized. I have found outside outlets where one of the GFCI is far more sensitive to false trips than another. Take whole home surge protection. I have been doing that since year 2000.
Thanks bro useful for me this vedio
Glad to hear that
Will a ceiling fan cause the AFCI / GFCI dual interrupt breaker to pop? Being that the ceiling fan motor electricity changes according to the speed you set it to will it affect in some way?
If you're looking for both ground and arc-fault protection, could you install CAFCI breakers, and GFCI receptacles?
Will the use of X10 power line control devices trip afci cafci protection?
My brand new (2022) house has AFCI breakers. Out clothes drier trips it constantly. I disconnected the second ground wire in the back of the drier to prevent this but can I just replace the Arc Fault breaker with a normal GFCI breaker and reconnect that wire in the drier?
If not, what am I SUPPOSED to do to remain in code?
Ima Architect in NV - excellent video!
Thank you!
With all of the very good electronic stud/electric detectors now available for fairly cheap - really the huge problems with the AFCI are avoidable. AFCI's do not work that well - they go off routinely from normal motor arcing; from various fully correctly functioning appliances or tools. The vast majority of Fires caused from 'arcing' is from small brads or nails etc. used to hang pictures or some such up on a wall. Where the person putting the item up on the wall - inadvertently slightly compromises the electrical romex behind the wall with just a very small 'prick' of metal - which is just very slightly arcing sometimes. And eventually heats up enough and drys up enough - that it starts a fire.
I'll note also that modern code requires in-wall cabling to be installed in a way that pretty much minimizes or eliminates any chance of damaging the cable that way. In studs, where one is going to be screwing long screws through, plates are used over the cable penetrations, and elsewhere the cable isn't right up against the drywall, and is likely to just flex out of the way if someone is so careless as to continue drilling long after they're all the way through the drywall.
Besides the fact that arcing may not even start happening right away, so by the time the breaker trips, who knows if anyone will remember why it might have started or know where to look for the problem that's hidden in the wall.
Good video. Risk management is something we, as modern humans, haven't really needed to do on such a vast and large scale for a long time. I'm happy to see more awareness of the need to be "aware" of the risks we face in our modern world. However I think we need to use caution when approaching the concept of "make the world 100% safe for everyone." Life has risk and is the cost benefit ratio for said risk(s) worthwhile? I don't know but it's worth discussing.
you really think people came here to read you babbling about stuff you have such little knowledge in but feel compelled to toss out a ton of cliches to appear smart?
@@slowery43 😆
Can't thin out the non hackers if we've got these damn safety devices around...
If/when home insurers demand changing out receptacles for pre-80's homes (that do not have grounds ( I know this because they are in my house and i only know this because i have to replace one or more as i speak - the reason i must learn this), we might as well learn about it as DYI 'ERS.
The arc fault of both kinds are pretty much Nanny junk . What needs to happen is just a device to test the circuit upon installation ... which would be nice if it could tell you how far down the line the arc is happening.
Then fix it ,,, but for regular use , just use your regular over amperage breakers.
GFCI's are of course good things though.
I guess also if doing anything involving penetrating the wall with nails & screws. Would then be a good time to test the circuit for arc faults. Knowing your circuits , and where the wires might be running is a good thing for any DIYer . But this set it and forget it type of safety , is pretty ridiculous IMHO .
I had a GFCI outlet that would trip when I had a space heater on it and too much connected to the same circuit it was on but not on gfci's. The breaker would never flip just the GFCI outlet would flip. I suppose with the space heater pulling a good amount of power a long way and two other outlets pulling power a good distance must of eventually caused the load on the GFCI outlet to become unbalanced.
What about old home wiring are those fancy breakers good
Ty! 👍
Sure thing!
Here in Germany the GFCI is mandatory for all new electrical installations for the whole house.
I have installed them to protect my whole house, and I think everyone should at least have them (Although the voltage in the US is only half as high).
But we have different panels than you guys do, so we can install one GFCI (with no breaker inside) for multiple breakers, so the cost really isnt that high over here.
I havent given much thought about AFCIs, but it might be a good decision to get them as well, although they can cause problems with the nuisance tripping and they are more expensive than GFCIs over here.
If you are operating with 240 volts with ring circuits. The amperage never reaches the threshold to need protection for series circuits. Parallel arcing would still be needed but I haven’t heard of those in EUROPEAN countries.
@@matthewfournier6478 only really an issue with ring circuits in the UK. Not sure if Ireland use them too but rest if Europe use 16amp radials mainly
@@matthewfournier6478 It is the voltage that causes arcing.
I might of missed it in the comments but I wish you could of told us how to identify one from the other. Very helpful vid on what they do.
Also who makes them and where? Hate buying crap from overseas that fails. Can you get them at the big box stores, or do you need to go to a dedicated electric store? Where are the best places to have them installed? Any advice on whether to use a breaker or outlet in which places?
You can get them at home Depot and Lowes... They say AFCI or GFCI on both the packaging and the breaker...
@@caseylascallette7269 ID actually on breaker , Thanks !
I have to be fairly certain the devices have the information you desire labele on them
If you protect a circuit with a breaker, are you required to put a GFCI sticker on all protected receptacle wall plates? Or, are there wall plates with GFCI emblazoned on them?
Okay I have a leviton panel and cannot fine CAFCI CBs anywhere on their website ?? Only AFCI?
I had nuisance tripping of a breaker supplying power to normal outlets. Turns out the breaker had worn out (weak). Replaced and life is good again.
It should be noted that the GFCI breaker predates the availability of GFCI receptacles by several years. My parents house has a GFCI breaker in the outdoor outlets and the powder room receptacles. The master and main bathroom has those transformer limited electric razor only outlets. Homes built just a few years later simply put a GFCI receptacle in the powder room and have the outdoor outlets in series with that GFCI receptacle.