Female Pastors? | Ep 129
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- What does the Bible really say about women teaching from the pulpit? Does it matter?
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Finally! A woman of God that isn't afraid to hear what the scripture truly says.
The last shall be first! I truly wonder if a husband-submissive woman who serpent-like changed diapers on her severely autistic son and invalid husband, night and day, year after year, in obscurity, won’t be the kind of person who passes over males, even James and John, to sit eternally at the right hand of Christ in glory!?!
@Donna di Lode I respectfully refer you to 2 Peter 3:15-16.
(I try always to believe God’s revelations even when I do not fully understand. I do not want to risk the “destruction” of which Peter speaks.)
@Donna di Lode What in the Scriptures is she wrong about? I’d really like your help with this.
@Donna di Lode Cunning can indeed be sinful - i am not being cunning, just seeking the truth. If your criticism of Allie is based on the Holy Scriptures, I sincerely want to hear it. This is an complex issue that needs God’s clarity.
@Donna di Lode May God grant us both wisdom.
'They say "submission sounds like serving. That sounds like something to rebel against." Well, ain't it funny how being a servant is repulsive to everyone but God?! and we wonder why we can't recognize His face!'
Very well said no name!
Additionally, No Name, isn't it funny how just like women need to submit to their husbands (and husbands to wives, if you read further), you also need to SUBMIT an application to for that $250K/year job?
My wife will not use a computer to fill out online forms. At the bottom of the form, she refuses to click that dreaded “SUBMIT” button.
Men are called to submit too. Maybe Paul was commenting on the direct issues in the church at the time.
Cara Wadley Paul was getting his guidance directly from God himself.
The Bible can be very offensive because it goes against our own pride.
that's true brother, not because it's offensive in itself... our pride is the problem
@Donna di Lode Wow, that nonsense came out of nowhere. and who the heck is Stan? Was it "Stan" who made you verbally attack these 2 for no reason? Go ahead and attack me Stan, I obviously need the entertainment..
@@cpt.barker4767 I guess whomever that was that verbally attacked these two had their comment deleted or they deleted it, themselves. However, I don't think it was "Stan" who caused the verbal assault...I think it was Satan... You were missing an "a", Brian. 😏😉
Great observation, @Joel Diaz
@@sespotlhaselo9315 Equally well stated! God, through His Word only wants to give regulation that will benefit us... But when we think our way is better (the pride you both speak of), then we get offended when we're told, "Umm, hey...Ya kinda missed the mark by the distance of a small planet there... Ya might wanna rethink your position."
"Woman is a necessity not an accessory!" Thank you Jesus!
Glad that made you feel good now be obedient
@@champureturns227 .... Exhibit A: Prosecution rests Your Honor.... 😆🤣😂😹
What is Neccessity ya. I don't understand.
@@champureturns227 Ass
The Scripture(Rom 16:1) you're referring to said "Phebe our sister" , not phebe our pastor, not phebe our prophetess, not phebe our deacon. But phebe our sister. Teach the truth, the word is truth. Dont change it. It is what it is. It means what it said. if it doesn't suit your beliefs, then change what you believe to suit it. Paul spoke by the Holy Ghost, and the Holy Spirit can not make a mistake, why would God say through him, "i suffer not a women to teach not to be an overseer over the men", then the next day, turn around and say, "I'm sending phebe up to the church of Rome to give a sermon". A sermon is speaking. Women can't give sermons, she can speak... in the church. It never said nothing about speaking outside the church, but it said she cant speak inside of the church. The word calls for her complete obedience in this matter. Not rebellion. It's not that she can't do it, it's that she shouldn't do it. I'm sure women or just as cappable of speaking scriptures in the pulpit, but God said she cant give a sermon, she cant speak... in the church, and not one church, but all the churches, he said. All.
"1Corinthians 14:33 (kjv) For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as 👉in all👈 churches of the saints. 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is 👉not permitted👈 unto them 👉to speak👈; but they are 👉commanded👈 to be under obedience, as also saith the law."
And the law doesn't permit a women to be a preist, and the priestly ministry was given over to a pastoral ministry when Jesus came. Also in Gen 3:16. GOD Put the man to be the overseer of the Women. Which is a type and shadow of Christ being the head and his elected church. So how can a woman get up on the pulpit and claim(usurp) authority over a congregation full of men?. That's against God's divine plan. I may not like it. But i must believe it. "1Timothy 2:12(kjv) But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.”
If a aged women wants to teach, she can teach younger women(Titus 2:3,4), not men, that's biblical, and not from the pulpit either. Because she cant speak(give a sermon) inside the church. 1 Corinthians14:35 (kjv) ... for it is a shame for women to speak 👉in👈 the church.”
God thinks it's shamful. There must be a reason. I may not know or understand completely why, but i trust Him. You should to.
God's word is infallible and it is always right, regardless of if we agree with it or not. Dont let satan cause you to believe a lie (2Thess2:11 - 2Chron18:21)
People want to create their own beliefs based on how they feel and their preferences. Like you said it is pride. People want to be their own God, and rebel against the good and perfect will, law and design that God has established. "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. "
2 Timothy 4:3
Amy Klassen I was scrolling through the comments and saw my own name! Praise the Lord, sister, for your comment :)
@@DentGal83 Haha, that's awesome! Great to see other Amy Klassen's in the world that love Jesus.
@Amy Klassen something is funny because people will try and make this a male vs female, gender struggle issue, but I read somewhere that there are many women, like yourself, who are on v the side of "women should not" just as there are many men on the side of "women should be allowed to". It's interesting and, dare I say, refreshing...
hello beautiful lady with a beautiful smile i wish you the best wishes you wish your self, i hope you are having a nice day, you are gorgeous, oh my god you are beautiful,how are you doing
What if I don’t f*cking care about what the Bible says?
It's always refreshing to hear someone take a hard look at scripture, interpret properly, and teach what it says. Even when it's difficult. Keep up the good work
timffoster how did you know she interpreting it correctly?
timffoster context is king. Put everything in context then you will see that it is not contextually taken but selective here is why; 1 Timothy 2:9 is ignored completely even by her. Let woman learn in silence v 11 do you know what silence is? Not speaking at all. V8 only men can pray then Greek word here is masculine= husband or future husband.
My point is this, if we keep on going through this lane of women cannot preach then we have to keep everything in context and not selective context when God created mankind, He gave them equal authority over all the works His Hand, but it is only after the fall that everything changed but everything has been restored in Christ Jesus Galatians 3:27-29
Unfortunately, only God has the only objective opinion, the rest of us have only subjective (and possibly incorrect) opinions.
@@commonsensechristianitywit1085 so saint Paul is wrong correct?
If God is in your heart why listen to a book written by, no pun intended God knows who? You wouldn't listen to an ad which informs you that "God told them this so buy it", therefore why believe that the text of the bible was honest? Maybe it was written by people with a certain agenda. Perhaps the agenda to keep power within the circle of man. Perhaps we all have a finite mind that is unable to grasp scripture, however given that critical thinking is now something availble to freely study in most civilized societies I wonder if many people are actually able to grasp scripture which was written down by unknown sources. You do not know who really wrote down "God's word". You cannot definitively prove that the scripture wasn't just someone's way to trick unsuspecting, uneducated people of those times who did not have the means to acquire an education in critical thinking. I respect your views however I feel inclined to question your sources and ask: why do you trust the Bible?
The greatest need in the world today: a secure godly woman.
@Donna di Lode because in this day and age when women exercise unprecedented freedom and power there are many 'curious' women who lack the imagination to understand rhetorical expressions.
I'd argue our world first needs to prioritize the Logos. We have lost the art of discussion and reason, so all these other issues are impossible to see change in.
Amen. I agree. God bless her
100% true also for “a man”
Yes, indeed. I really do believe women are neglecting their God given influence to have the authority of men. A women has the biggest influence on her children, so we women are creating the next generation. What a difference it would make if godly women, who do not question the authority of the bible (not the pastor) would teach their children Gods ways.
There is something especially powerful when we say, "God, your ways and teachings are right and good." when it is costly to do so. It walks back the disaster that happened in the garden, when we said, "No God, we know better what is right for me." Thanks Allie.
What happened in the garden was that Eve was deceived and sinned, and Adam sinned on purpose. That point about Adam is rarely emphasized.
What happened in the garden was that both Adam and Eve sinned. What are you saying...that Eve is punished more because she was deceive and therefore not able to speak or lead in a congregation? Adam failed to lead yet he is still leading. I am not sure what Paul is truly saying in I Tim. but in was not shut women up for all times. Rom. 16:1 Paul uses Pheobe to take the Roman letter to the churches. The one that delivers is the one to read the letter to the church.
@@forhisglory8471 did you really write a comment 1 year ago and then come back 2 hours ago and write another one? 😅
@@Momofukudoodoowindu hahaha next year will have more
@@csouza926 Bro I think its a bot because every single comment on this channel has been on this one video 💀
Wise young woman.
This made no sense to me as a new Christian, a 24 year old college student raised in a broken, barely nominally Christian home, with a mom was a 70's feminist. But fast forward 25 more years and it now makes much more sense. But even if it didn't, God is God, and I am just a creature.
"God is God and I am just a creature" I love it :)
So great hearing that 😍
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Amen. God is God and we are His creation, definitely not the other way around.
Thank you Allie, for such a clear-cut explanation of God's Word on this subject. Even in the Church, so many have become soft on what Scripture so clearly defines on this topic. Women are certainly not lesser, Proverbs 31:10 points out that her value is far above rubies! Always appreciate your videos - Lord Bless, congratulations on your precious new bundle of joy!
Well done, Allie. Thank you for having the courage to explain these scriptures with compassion and humility.
Every time I listen to your podcast I find myself saying “yes, sister! Amen!” God has indeed gifted you with wisdom and eloquence. Keep speaking truth, Allie!! God bless you❤️
Thank you Allie! It is truly a blessing to hear you standing on Gods holy word and that you would share it on this very public forum is so refreshing from a millennial as yourself! It gives me new hope that individuals as yourself are being faithful to truth! May Gods richest blessings be on you and yours!!!
Good morning beautiful... awwwww awww 🥰 your comment so heart warming and touching, how are you doing
I am so impressed by your message. It is so refreshing in this age of falling away from the truth, to hear a true woman of God speak such sound biblical truth. You are spot-on thank you so much you have blessed me tremendously. Love In Christ. Pastor Duane and Chico pup.
To say you “knocked it out of the park” with this one would be an understatement. So informative, so valuable. 🙏🏽
Thank you, God for giving Allie the gift of teaching and bringing me to this video. Thank you, Allie! Your explanation has blessed my life.
Allie, you have a lot of understanding, and you are good at explaining it. Thank you for this one.
Omg I love this! Very humbling and powerful! Blessed to hear this 💕
“Omg” is taking God’s name in vain!
You are indeed a wonderful teacher. You articulated several perspectives of this topic beautifully, bringing in scripture and God's plan for us in such a way as to assure that no woman ever feel belittled, disrespected or demeaned through embracing the plan God has had for us since creation. Thank you.
Your videos kept being recommended to me and I didn’t know why… only I know I just watched a 30 minute video and it felt like it was a 5 minute video because I was so engaged! Thank you so much for being narrow and not deviating from Bible! You definitely have a new subscriber!
Wow, excellent workmanship! Your handling of the word of God regarding this topic is praiseworthy. Thank you!
It's wonderful to hear a person putting God first and feelings last this is why we need to study the scriptures. God bless you
Allie I am SO glad I found your channel. I've been watching many of your videos and really value what you say. It is so difficult finding young women these days who truly believe the Bible over the "cultural christian" views and ideas that are so common today in 2019. Keep speaking truth! God is using you in mighty ways.
Same. Ive been binge watching.
hello beautiful lady with a beautiful smile i wish you the best wishes you wish your self, i hope you are having a nice day, you are gorgeous, oh my god you are beautiful,how are you doing
So so good! Thank you for being a young voice of truth in a culture that often twists scripture for the sake of feeling good and feeling ‘relevant’.
Thank you for explaining these verses on the role of women in the Church with true submission to the authority of Scripture. It is refreshing hear a young woman viewing these passages in a positive light understanding that God's order is to help us thrive.
Good morning beautiful... awwwww awww 🥰 your comment so heart warming and touching, how are you doing
You are so right, for letting the Bible speak. After being the woman at the well myself I am so glad that the Lord let me teach women and children, and these days where I live in SC is not the easiest thing to find a church that is not bowing the knee. 💐🥰🙏🏽
Good morning beautiful... awwwww awww 🥰 your comment so heart warming and touching, how are you doing
Yes! Thank you for standing on scripture. As a woman, I'm far more concerned with God's truth than with the world's "feelings".
Great job lady! Best teaching I've come across in quite a while.
Wonderful, Beautiful explanation! Easy to understand and very insightful! Thank you!
This is so good. Like other comments, i have also not found a sound defense of these questions from a woman's perspective. Hearing it from a woman doesn't change what I believed (which is what the Bible says) but it is good to hear. So encouraging. And how you reiterate how much woman is used and loved by God is so beautifully put.
Thanks again for a great video.
Request:
Can you make a video talking about 1 cor 11 and the meaning of it in terms of women and covering their head. It is complicated to understand for me.
Thanks Allie✝️🙏❤️
Mike Winger has a very long video on this. I haven’t listened to it yet but I know he’s a thorough, fair, biblically sound teacher. Allen Parr has a shorter one too.
You hit yet another one out of the park Allie. Love your podcast! ❤❤❤
I just wanted to personally, thank you, for sharing and posting this video because this subject is weighing very heavily on my heart recently and I needed some guidance and I feel God has provided me with just that.
Thank you for diving into the tough topics
Wonderful message!! I needed this today...I couldn't agree more. Thank you so much!!
Thank you for this video which you really looked at it from all angles. A female pastor on my FB has the audacity to post that anyone who doesn’t believe a woman can be a pastor has been bewitched. When I asked for the scripture to back up her claim she as well as many other female pastors used Galatians 3:28 which clearly has nothing to do with a woman’s role in the church and speaks of being one in the same faith in the body of Christ! I responded with many of the same scriptures you discussed and was told I need to get a better understanding of the times those scriptures were written, that I have a spirit that is argumentative and not teachable, and was even told I have a reprobate mind. That nasty Jezebel spirit was clearly raising its ugly head!
did you say it in a way that was rude? Also, I have a female pastor and male bishop that both preach. What are your scriptures for your view?
Stay faithful to the truth! Some women really, really want to have authority and will twist the scriptures to get it.
@Aj Did you watch the video? The scriptures are provided.
You are talented..!! GOD blessed you without a shadow of doubt..
Thanks for throwing such light n clarity on this important relevant topic..every word is so true n relevant..!!
So glad God lead me to your channel. Our current culture is an example of doing it our way instead of God's. You are gifted at making this applicable to women's lives today. This makes so much sense. Makes me so excited about marriage through God's eyes!
Thank you so much for this spiritral edification Allie. Eight weeks ago I was a struggling radical feminist so much so that i was seeking to edify myself from a feminist perspective. As someone who is now wonderiously and miraculously born again, I have to challenge my core feminine values. I feel they kind of makes some sense in a world where men are Godless and so disrespectful and abusive to women. In the church, and christian marriage we are governed by a different spirit and are book is not a feminist manifesto book.
I was aggitated when you said submission but I trust God completely to direct and help me on my new path. I feel that God as lead me to you Allie for edification. I would have struggled as a new christian, if a man had told me to submit given the number of abusive men i have encountered in life. I think that a man who follows God is a different creature to a man who is Godless and submission to the later is difficult and sometimes dangerious. It seems to me that what is spiritral does not correlated to the men who are Godless. The gender war is what happen when we are functioning outside of God. Neither men or women are safe or happy with themselves or each other.
I think submission to Godly men is possible. Submission to a unGodly men may instinctively feel dangerious for women, so it is out of a godless gender relationshipd that a defensive feminism as arisen along with gender identity confusion.
This last paragraph is really profound. Ive been a Christian a long time and never thought about this explanation
@jackiestone6610 It doesn't matter if what Paul said is erroneously misquoted by man...God said:
Romans 9:15-19
New King James Version
15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” 16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” 18 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.
19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?”
So if he can make a female ass speak, then she's gonna speak.
Numbers 22:22-33
King James Version
22 And God's anger was kindled because he went: and the angel of the Lord stood in the way for an adversary against him. Now he was riding upon his ass, and his two servants were with him.
23 And the ass saw the angel of the Lord standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and the ass turned aside out of the way, and went into the field: and Balaam smote the ass, to turn her into the way.
24 But the angel of the Lord stood in a path of the vineyards, a wall being on this side, and a wall on that side.
25 And when the ass saw the angel of the Lord, she thrust herself unto the wall, and crushed Balaam's foot against the wall: and he smote her again.
26 And the angel of the Lord went further, and stood in a narrow place, where was no way to turn either to the right hand or to the left.
27 And when the ass saw the angel of the Lord, she fell down under Balaam: and Balaam's anger was kindled, and he smote the ass with a staff.
28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?
29 And Balaam said unto the ass, Because thou hast mocked me: I would there were a sword in mine hand, for now would I kill thee.
30 And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? and he said, Nay.
31 Then the Lord opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the Lord standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face.
32 And the angel of the Lord said unto him, Wherefore hast thou smitten thine ass these three times? behold, I went out to withstand thee, because thy way is perverse before me:
33 And the ass saw me, and turned from me these three times: unless she had turned from me, surely now also I had slain thee, and saved her alive.
God Bless
Anyone ever notice that when you hear or listen to the smartest people in the world, they always talk about God?
This is awesome. Love it!
(Ben Carson, Ken Hamm, Ravi Zacharias, and of course Allie Stuckey)
Just to name a few
CS Lewis, John Lennox, Tim Keller, Bob Goff, Francis Chan... Praise the Lord, He gives good gifts, intelligence being one.
Dwayne Cunningham
Accurate!!
John MacArthur... Yes, so true!
Aly :0 yes
Aly :0
Wrong
I needed this. always stuggled with this passage thank you!
hello beautiful lady with a beautiful smile i wish you the best wishes you wish your self, i hope you are having a nice day, you are gorgeous, oh my god you are beautiful,how are you doing
Love it when you talked about what our posture as women should be ❤️ Gratitude allows us to see the beauty in our Father’s perfect set-up instead of chaining us to the idol of self and our own pride
Very well done. Bravo for both the material and for having the sand to say what you believe.
I love this! You explained it wonderfully and all backed up with scripture. I had so many questions and this video randomly popped up! Well not randomly because I know it was God ☺️ God bless you Allie ❤️
I just came across this and WOW! Your message is wonderful crazy and amazing! Thank you for putting this out there.
Good morning beautiful... awwwww awww 🥰 your comment so heart warming and touching, how are you doing
It is good to hear you speak about this theme! You are a woman of God! May the Lord bless you and your family!
I like your videos very much!
The ironic thing is that the concept of submission is the opposite of the MMA. the Biblical concept is for the woman to " come under the protective umbrella of the man "; in other words, she is allowing him to serve her; in essence, he is to live to please her and from that, he gets his fulfillment. If both apply this, it is a win/win situation. Glenn
Isn't it the other way around? Isn't she to live to please him, and he to protect her?
Bible does say that the woman was made for the man, and the husband is to love his wife (what we love, we protect.) Just as Christ loves, thus protects the church, and the church exists to please Him? I agree with the win~win result! 💞🙏
Beautifully said.. thank you for that insight Glenn.
@@judywright6889 I think Glen was right with saying that a husband is fulfilled to please his wife. The woman is a helper and it is such a privilege to know how God is our helper and how God define helper in the Bible we women have a very important role as a helper not as a pleaser of men.
Very well explained, thank you
That is a GROSS misinterpretation of the scripture. She doesn't ALLOW him to SERVE her. NOWHERE in the Bible does it EVER mention men are to SERVE their wives. Quite the opposite. Women are to submit to their husbands in EVERYTHING (but obviously not something immoral or against God's laws, that goes without saying). Wives are to submit to their husbands AS UNTO THE LORD.
Husbands are called to love their wives as Christ loved the church. How much did Christ love the church? With the GREATEST Love. Jesus died for the church and Jesus said, greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for a friend. Most men are more than willing to lay down their lives to protect their wives. Most BOYFRIENDS will do that. At the Aurora Theater shooting, a young man covered his girlfriend's body with his and took the bullets. He died, she lived. They weren't even engaged.
So, men have been fulfilling that command for centuries, but now women refuse to submit to their husbands and even worse expect their husband to SERVE THEM!
Paul states clearly that Man wasn't created for the woman, but woman for the man. SHE was to be HIS helper.
This feminist garbage you just spewed out is evil and in direct opposition to scripture.
Thank you for delving into this topic and doing it both Biblically and boldly! 👏💜
Glad you are discussing this. God has spoken on this issue. By the way...Allie...you've been pregnant since Jesus was an infant! When are you due sugar??? Praying for a safe delivery.
😂 “ Since Jesus was an infant” lol!
Haha
Dont talk about Jesus LUCIFER REV 22:16.
I’ve had a female pastor for years. She is humble, so good at making our church welcoming and preaches the gospel. Every week I hear God through her messages and have grown so much in the Word under her tutelage. I know there are lots of prisms through which to view certain scriptures, but I ask God to give me wisdom and discernment in all things.
Exactly women who say a woman can't be a pastor and can't teach has (to put it nicely) needs to be quiet. She might as well take down her whole channel and only teach her children. Plus they forget Deborah lead the men and that was during the law we don't live under the law anymore think about that.
She is humble. She is welcoming. She preaches. She is also outside the will of God.
2Timothy: a bishop (Pastor) should husband of one wife.
@Wonderfully MADE OVER I agree. You can.
@@mariiglo28 SHE is not in CHURCH ?
well said, you are right on when you said that a lot of people/churches who don't like this subject, also pick and choose of scriptures to ignore because they are "hard to hear", had to find a new church that preached ALL the Word, not just what the Pastor picked and chooses for his own gain. preach it sister! Expostitory preaching is a must for every follower.
“But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.”
1 Timothy 2:12-14
I agree with what you said, Allie. Thank you for this teaching.
I needed this encouragement. Ive been struggling in this
I will keep you in my prayers. Pray for discernment. God bless your.
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hello how are you doing
@@jerrypeter8303 Go away, creep. This is not a night club.
Thankyou so much, I've been struggling with this issue for some time now. This really helped me see this clearly and realise that we have to put God's word above our own emotions
Complementarianism
The priesthood of the New Covenant is a 2-tiered priesthood
based on birthright.
That false and confusing teaching, that states Christian women are less than
Christian men in a spiritual way, but they really aren't, but they really are.
The complementarian teaching prohibits a Christian woman from holding
certain positions in a church. They can't be elders neither can
they teach men. So why is that?
The false teaching makes it clear that the priesthood of the New Covenant
is tiered. There is a hierarchy. Those that are higher, the men, can be in
leadership positions, like elder. They can teach other men. Those in the
lower tier can not be in leadership positions, like elder. They are prohibited
from teaching men, because the men are in the higher tier. It wouldn't make
any sense.
A new believer is automatically assigned their level, higher or lower,
at the moment of salvation, as a birthright. Their gender determines
their tier. A Christian can not move to a higher or lower tier.
A Christian that is in the lower tier (woman) is not allowed to
complain of the tier she was placed in. That would be sin, because
God made her a woman by His choice. She should accept and also
embrace her position in the lower tier.
A church, is either a group of Christian men or a group of Christian men and women.
A church can never be a group of Christian women, because it would be
a group of only those in the lower tier. It would have no elders.
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
-excerpt 1 Peter 2
Since the teaching states that women are spiritually inferior to men, but
they aren't, but they are, when did that start?
But I do not allow a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a wrongdoer.
-excerpt 1 Timothy 2
It started with the first woman. She was deceived, and sinned because of it. So we
have a teaching that accepts that men and women are fallen beings. Both genders
are sinful by nature. However women are different. They are lacking the ability
that men have to judge if some situation, some concept or teaching is sinful. This
inability was passed down from Eve to all women. It remains to this day. A woman
in our time was 'lacking' from birth, even from the womb.
So what can be done? Nothing according to Complementarianism. That is because
an anointing of that powerful masculine being called the Holy Spirit, is just not
sufficient. Even the Holy Spirit can not elevate even one Christian woman to the
spiritually superior level of a Christian man.
Why is it that I hear this teaching from woman about not teaching men but they are teaching on CZcams and men listen?
Exactly.
Exactly what I was thinking lol. Pretty ironic
It makes you wonder which God they are serving. After Christ came forth from a woman, and also delivered so many women. Then allowed a woman to be trained under him to become a rabbi. A whole religious group calling themselves church- which is really occultic, comes to put people back in bondage. The devil has always been at war with the woman. Sadly today the letters from paul that was only meant for a specific church because of its culture there is taken to generalise for all cultures all over the world. With an effort to silence women. To suppress and oppress. Surely Jesus's coming dying on the cross was not for any woman or man to shut up!
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@@Charles.Wright John 4: 39
And many of the Samaritans of that city believed in Him because of the word of the woman who testified, “He told me all that I ever did.”
There are men leading churches and still can't lead their people to God. Thay portion of scripture is where Christ spoke to a samaritan woman. He spoke to her cos He knew she would tell everyone about Him. She then lead many people of Her city to Christ. That to me is equal to leading a church. A church is not a building the people who believe in Christ are the church. If that doesn't tell you that anyone can lead once God gave them the message to go. I don't know what will.
Thank you for such a strong defense of this scripture. Well done. I would love a similar discussion on headcovering in our current day. Many Christians disagree on this and would love an in depth exploration of it.
If the church and marriage are to be a reflection of the eternal relationship Christ has with the Church. I would add to your thoughts Allie that if it makes a woman feel uncomfortable to think of being in submission to a man or men then she has been in relationship with ungodly men. If you are dating a man that you cringe thinking of being in submission to as a wife, I would strongly encourage you to walk away from that relationship. If you are in a church where the men lord their authority over the women in a way that leaves them disrespected, diminished, where they’re spoken too with condescension, where they aren’t protected from abuse, where they aren’t affirmed as critical participants, where the manly leadership doesn’t make you feel safe and affirmed and willing and eager to be in ‘submission’. I would encourage you to find a new church!!!
The roles we take in obedience to God apply to the women AND the men. I would say that a man that doesn’t think these scriptures apply to them or that they can compromise on these instructions and isn’t treating women as Christ treated women then he’s probably compromising elsewhere.
I think it’s easy to jump down the throats of women instructing men because it’s really obvious when that’s happening. I’d love to hear that all church leadership is being held to the standard of Gods Word.
Extremely insightful how your input truly adds to the conversation. Thank you.
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Refreshingly Biblical! Was looking for something to share with a friend. I have left a couple churches After visiting, because of this issue.
Barb B Q Yeah, I’d never stay in a church with a female pastor. A church that cannot abide by such a straightforward command is not the church for me.
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Thank you for making these videos and truly trusting in the sovereignty of God and infallibility of the Bible, so many today are steering away from the Bible unfortunately. God bless you!
Awesome video! I'm sharing it with my girls too.
Am so glad to find your content, very scarcely do i find women that agree with the whole of scripture. As a man i approve this message. ➕ ❤
Wow wow wow, just WOW! Thank you for this. I've agreed with everything you just said for the past 30+ years. And you're right, you do know how to put things in a concise teachable way :) I'm definitely sharing this video.
Excellent. Thank you for laying this out so clearly using Scripture to back it all up. I 100% agree wholeheartedly. God's way are not our ways and God's way are the best.
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Good morning beautiful... awwwww awww 🥰 your comment so heart warming and touching, how are you doing
Thank you. We had a woman “pastor” come and speak to our church today… I felt very uncomfortable, I had to walk out… pray for my church!!!
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You did the right thing. You respected GOD'S word.
Love it Allie! Thank you!
Thank you! This was amazingly done. I used to follow Joyce Meyers but struggled with it. I can't help but see God's truth being so well laid out I this video.
The Scripture(Rom 16:1) said "Phebe our sister" , not phebe our pastor, not phebe our prophetess, not phebe our deacon. But phebe our sister. Teach the truth, the word is truth. Dont change it. It is what it is. It means what it said. if it doesn't suit your beliefs, then change what you believe to suit it. Paul spoke by the Holy Ghost, and the Holy Spirit can not make a mistake, why would God say through him, "i suffer not a women to teach not to be an overseer over the men", then the next day, turn around and say, "I'm sending phebe up to the church of Rome to give a sermon". A sermon is speaking. Women can't give sermons, she can speak... in the church. It never said nothing about speaking outside the church, but it said she cant speak inside of the church. The word calls for her complete obedience in this matter. Not rebellion. It's not that she can't do it, it's that she shouldn't do it. I'm sure women or just as cappable of speaking scriptures in the pulpit, but God said she cant give a sermon, she cant speak... in the church, and not one church, but all the churches, he said. All.
"1Corinthians 14:33 (kjv) For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as 👉in all👈 churches of the saints. 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is 👉not permitted👈 unto them 👉to speak👈; but they are 👉commanded👈 to be under obedience, as also saith the law."
And the law doesn't permit a women to be a preist, and the priestly ministry was given over to a pastoral ministry when Jesus came. Also in Gen 3:16. GOD Put the man to be the overseer of the Women. Which is a type and shadow of Christ being the head and his elected church. So how can a woman get up on the pulpit and claim(usurp) authority over a congregation full of men?. That's against God's divine plan. I may not like it. But i must believe it. "1Timothy 2:12(kjv) But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.”
If a aged women wants to teach, she can teach younger women(Titus 2:3,4), not men, that's biblical, and not from the pulpit either. Because she cant speak(give a sermon) inside the church. 1 Corinthians14:35 (kjv) ... for it is a shame for women to speak 👉in👈 the church.”
God thinks it's shamful. There must be a reason. I may not know or understand completely why, but i trust Him. You should to.
God's word is infallible and it is always right, regardless of if we agree with it or not. Dont let satan cause you to believe a lie (2Thess2:11 - 2Chron18:21)
Love your channel your honesty and love for God ❤️ and his Word!!
Allie, you truly do have a gift to explain things well, backing it with the word of God, thank you for clarifying a few things that I couldn’t explain to others who has misunderstood these passages and to those who see it through the lens of patriarchy. 🙏🏽🔥
Beautifully done my Sister 🥰🙌🏾
Absoulty stunning testimony..Inspiring young lady.. Who is in touch with the holy spirit.
I was very much in support of women pastors but listening to the scripture analysis, I see that I can no longer be middle of the road with this.
@Donna di Lode I don't have shame, I've been redeemed. If you don't want to take the time to explain your study of scripture don't insult me. Especially on some gender ideological terms.
@Donna di Lode 1. It's not an insult to not be called to pastor.
2. Shaming me is in fact an insult.
3. Just give me the scriptures.
4. I read that women were forbidden to pastor years ago and it was unsettled point for me. Similar to alcohol, marriage and polygamy I'm finding lots of philosophical waxing and no scripture supporting these positions. The timelessness and specific nature of the word is in jeopardy and I never get good responses for these issues.
I'm filled with joy to hear you talk about the relation of headship, marriage, creation, bride, redemption, etc. Seriously. Because it is the biggest key to understanding so much about God, redemption, marriage, the Bible and everything in it. It is HUGE. And it needs to be a driving force by male pastors and other messengers. I've never heard the whole thing taught like you explained. I've only learned of it recently, thru the Spirit. And I think it should be priority One. Again, it ties into all of it. And the conclusion is the Ephesians mystery, that only the Spirit can explain. And it shows who is anointed to teach. And that is YOU, my friend. Right where you are. God bless you.
Miss seeing your theology videos! I know that the world has so much going on now compared to 2019, but it is so refreshing to hear a woman speak with your theological perspectives.
Very good information this topic has been coming up a lot too ..... and those glasses are a good pick and fit 👍❤️💯
Thank you for this video. I'm Catholic and really enjoyed and learned from the video.
Men, just do this: “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her,” Ephesians 5:25 NKJV
Douglas Bruh!
@Douglas lmao kjv is revised. The original bible is ancient Greek. Your translation is quite different than the true words and meanings. So take it easy narcissist
Men really need to learn this and women need to let them do it
Women....don't marry men who do not exhibit the humility of Jesus and willing to love you as Christ loved the church, willing to lay down his life for. Don't compromise cuteness for Christlikeness or fear of singleness. God made women because "it was not good for MAN to be alone"!!!!!
Why fight Christians? Love of Christ.
Well done. Great insight and appreciation for God's wisdom and shows trust in the whole word of God.
Yass! So good! Thanks for the video allie!
Perfectly described. Thank you. I wish this was in Spanish so I could share it with my family.
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I loved this teaching, I was a bit thrown off by the mid teaching endorsement for a security firm and actually nearly turned it off- but really glad I didn't. Very enlightened and biblically sound. Thank you
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Thank you Allie. Great to hear your perspective.
Thanks so much @Allie Beth Stuckey for this beautiful teaching. I just started a CZcams channel a few months ago and would love to have you as a guest.
I am a Hospital Chaplain in New Zealand. There are no men interested to due this role in my area. However the amount of men that I meet that are home bound and never get to church and ask for a devotional , prayer and at times guidance is larger then I thought. In country or areas there isn't a man to due that task of preaching, teaching and prayer in hospital. What should be done? There are other country and situation outside of the USA that this is a issue.
You should look up Phylicia Masonheimer. Allie is more a cultural commentator, and might not fully be able to answer this questions, but Phylicia dives into the deep, Biblical theology of "why" like no others I have heard. Thank you for your service in meeting people in their time of need! What a joy to serve!
I agree. We as women should not push ourselves in the frontline if their are willing, godly, biblically sane men in the local church, But what if men are unwilling, and worst of all, a bunch of cowards, ? let us save our generation for Jesus, we will arise and conquer in Jesus name.! The Holy Spirit will equipt us, if only we are willing, same with men but if men are unwilling to give their life in the service of God, then God will honor such choice as He honor every person's will.
Ministering in the holy spirit is what we are called to do. Keep doing it. But to judge the word (like teaching from a pulpit) or having authority over the men is a different matter.
1 Timothy 2:12 (KJV) But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to sit in silence.
@@CherishedMe Deborah was a judge. Also look up Women Rabbis
Thank you agree I hav a daughter & young women I disciple- there is something to be made clear that women are not subject to submission of ALL men -that is specific to marriage in eph 5 a different Greek word as in a covenant marriage opposed to 1tim-as role of respect
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I just thank you so
Much for spreading the truth 💛🤞🏾
Thank you so much for this explanation. It's confirmation of what I already believed.
Women are also meant to be pastors too and anyone who says anything different is not correct.
The scriptures say that women is not to teach or have authority over the man. The Bible is correct. As the Bible states, let God be the truth and every man a liar.
I love Jesus since my childhood. But Church taught me how complicated Christianity is. When I listen to all those videos about men and women and what the Bible say about this and that,I just want to grab my blanket and hide under it for the rest of the day. It‘s frustrating. Everyone seems to know it better. For now,all I know is,that Jesus died for my sins and rose again from the dead.And that I‘m nothing without him. C‘est ca!🤷🏻♀️
"I'm nothing without him." - sure, but you are NEVER without him! He said that he would always be with you, that he would never leave you.
Jesus understood how MAN complicates Christianity (and life...lol), so He HIMSELF condensed it into TWO directions "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and soul, and love your neighbour as yourself" - who is your neighbour? Everyone. Without that, everything else is but "clanging cymbals". Plus, if you have asked Christ into your heart, you TOO have the Holy Spirit who will give you wisdom and peace.
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Truth straight from the word of God ..with no "I think this is what is meant to explain away God" THANK YOU!!! God is right all the time!!!
- I am impressed with the doctrinal clarity of this lesson.
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I recently found your channel and I love it. It’s really informative and you talk about topics I have always wondered about. Thank you. Perchance you don’t have any podcast about tattoos, masturbation and infanticide in the Bible? I really love how you teach. Waiting for your answer ❤️
My only question is, doesn't Paul also say in one of his letters that women are to wear head coverings in the presence of God? Or at least something along those lines, I don't remember exactly. Anyways, my point was just why don't we still follow that part? I have a hard time knowing what is cultural and what isn't when it comes to context of the Scripture. Thanks!
"For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels."
1 Corinthians 11:10
Good News Translation 1 Corinthians 11:5-10 And any woman who prays or proclaims God's message in public worship with nothing on her head disgraces her husband; there is no difference between her and a woman whose head has been shaved. If the woman does not cover her head, she might as well cut her hair. And since it is a shameful thing for a woman to shave her head or cut her hair, she should cover her head. A man has no need to cover his head, because he reflects the image and glory of God. But woman reflects the glory of man; for man was not created from woman, but woman from man. Nor was man created for woman's sake, but woman was created for man's sake. On account of the angels, then, a woman should have a covering over her head to show that she is under her husband's authority.
Hello there!! As a woman who wears a hat to church and has wrestled with that passage- Paul Himself in that passage (1Corinth. 11) says that we are to judge for ourselves whether we should cover our heads or not but that it is for the angels- I think many come to different conclusions here and certainly have the liberty to! But to be honest I think most women I know haven’t really given it any consideration. Many who have considered the passage think what Paul was saying was cultural at the time (women who shaved their heads were associated with prostitution is what I’ve heard) and tend to dismiss it but I tend to think that because it is related to creation order (very important in light of our own current culture) and for the angels (again not cultural but of the spiritual realm and perhaps timeless?) that I ought to cover my head as it seems from that passage only to bring God more glory! In addition, it’s a great reminder every week that I am to obey and submit to God and His Word rather than culture which currently implies there are no actual differences between men and women 💁🏼♀️🎉
Much of Paul's writings were cultural.
@Haileybughug 1125 often when people say its cultural, its because our western culture does not want to obey it.
The women head covering thing is , according to the bible 1 Corinthians 11:10 (NKJV) because of the angels.
10 For this reason the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.
the angels who did not rebel against GOd "kept their positions of authority"
I would say that you can talk to God , anywhere, any time.. The Head covering is more for formal prayer.
I taught a woman about this. She tried it and waited, she had her first out of body experience with God.
God bless Tim
Beautifully spoken Allie. 💕
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you are solid in your understanding of the scriptures.
thank you!
Best explanation I have ever, ever heard
You did an awesome job......Bless the Lord
Awesome job!! Explained very well!
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Good morning beautiful... awwwww awww 🥰 your comment so heart warming and touching, how are you doing
Amen! When I was new to God’s Word, I spent a lot of time talking to God about His ways. Why? Because it was hard to accept when I was still holding on to secular beliefs. He gently helped me to see Him in His ways! He is beautiful!
Good morning beautiful... awwwww awww 🥰 your comment so heart warming and touching, how are you doing
Allie, I just discovered you and you are a delight. I love your teaching.
Something I am genuinely confused by when it comes to this interpretation of these scriptures is HOW do you explain Deborah? She was clearly filling a role that was traditionally given to men and it involved spiritual authority. I have yet to here a satisfactory explanation. I have heard teaching ranging from she was in error to she was a sign of judgment because the men were failing.
Something is missing. I know this video is 3 years old, so Allie, I would LOVE it if you’d be willing to do an updated video that takes a deeper dive and maybe brings in more teachers with greater insight to further shed led light in this subject 🖤
I agree.
I have no problem with men taking the lead in the family or women being called helpers. I'm gladly taking the roll if God called us to do so. But I'm also puzzled about Deborah. Or Luke 2:25-38 mentions an old woman being in the temple named Ana, that was a prophetesses.
Also Paul seems to dismiss his letters sending greetings to many women who seemed to be involved somehow in the ministry.
Could it be that women are only not meant to be in the pastorship?
If you read the story you can clearly see that the children of Israel were in disobedience, that’s why they had a woman ruling over them, it was actually a shameful thing and Deborah actually sends Barak to fight and he refuses unless she goes with him. God allowing her to judge doesn’t automatically mean that was righteous. Think about divorce, God gave the exemption for fornication, because of the hardness of our hearts, He would much rather that we forgive. I think Deborah is an exemption not the rule.
or the part where Jesus tells a woman to go tell The good news first after He has risen. I really struggle with a lot. I have ZERO and I mean zero desire to be a pastor. I want to do skincare. I enjoy it... That is my plan but The Lord is calling me into ministry and being a woman, I am struggling because of these passages. I know The voice of The Lord too...He is Who I will ultimately listen to but things like this are very hard.