How To Use Roc In Xenoblade 2

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Komentáře • 194

  • @maagic2031
    @maagic2031 Před 3 lety +267

    "What is my purpose"
    You use the smash art.
    "Oh my God."

  • @aggressivelymediocre350
    @aggressivelymediocre350 Před 3 lety +414

    How to use Roc:
    1. If the enemy has been launched, switch to Roc and use Wing Smash.
    2. Switch back to a better blade

    • @aggressivelymediocre350
      @aggressivelymediocre350 Před 3 lety +16

      Honestly, if I wanted my pfp to be accurate to my name, I should switch it to Roc, lol. Ok that’s a little too mean.

    • @joshuablack95
      @joshuablack95 Před 3 lety +22

      3. Replace him with corvin when you can

    • @buddha3209
      @buddha3209 Před 3 lety +2

      That's exactly how I used him lol.

    • @aegislight98
      @aegislight98 Před 2 lety +2

      That's exactly how I use him.

  • @solidskrump
    @solidskrump Před 3 lety +395

    He might not be very useful, or fun to use, but he IS Roc, and he always has been, and he always will be.

    • @justinbowman1342
      @justinbowman1342 Před 3 lety +38

      HE? Last time I checked, Roc's gender is 4.

    • @AshenVictor
      @AshenVictor Před 3 lety +20

      @@justinbowman1342 We're hitting levels of nonbinary that shouldn't be possible.... (That said, Roc uses female physical mannerisms and male speech mannerisms (in Japanese, where you can do that at least).

  • @terrymc.guffins4131
    @terrymc.guffins4131 Před 3 lety +128

    "Vandams best blade"
    it hurt itself in confusion
    Rip Aussie Man

  • @adamnguyen4439
    @adamnguyen4439 Před 3 lety +188

    What do you mean? Using Roc on Vandham is broken, especially on the final boss obviously

  • @MrKing-771
    @MrKing-771 Před 3 lety +124

    I think that Roc was intended to be a "safety net" blade of sorts. His low damage combined with his critical rate, his aggro reduction skill, and his low hp skills makes him a good blade to switch to when Rex is being targeted, while the 30 second damage boost serves to help you out before the battle escalates. Combined with how early you get him in the game, he's also a good beginner blade that serves to encourage the player to practice important combat elements, such as aggro management and driver combos.

  • @moberlysquad67
    @moberlysquad67 Před 3 lety +79

    Roc is the Hulk of Xenoblade 2. All he does is smash

  • @reyntime8735
    @reyntime8735 Před 3 lety +68

    Name: Roc
    Formerly: Roc
    Will be: Roc

  • @Movel0
    @Movel0 Před 3 lety +49

    "A child? Don't make me laugh! this kid...has made himself Roc's driver!" - Malos

  • @thehypist2587
    @thehypist2587 Před 3 lety +39

    Roc is a cool blade. He’s a massive bird, uses dual scythes, and his former driver is a mercenary leader!
    Roc is amazing. Always has been, always will be!

  • @thisimagelooksslightlybett1020

    Roc: "I, AM ROC, PLEASURE TO MEET YOU"
    Me: "Hello, smash art"
    Roc: "... huh"

  • @chrislemay3807
    @chrislemay3807 Před 3 lety +53

    Don't sleep on that Launch art on Vandham though. Very important

    • @jordanthejq12
      @jordanthejq12 Před 3 lety +3

      This but...kinda unironically? Muscle Uppercut is the first truly good Launch art you'll have access to. The other pre-Pandoria Launch arts are on Rex's Greataxe, which has decent Arts but terrible animation speed, and Nia's Knuckle Claw, which suffers from, well, being a physical weapon on Nia. Vandham gives the party a setup which can actually execute Driver Combos with some level of optimization, at least for a short while.
      (This setup is Rex/Nia/Vandham with Corvin on Rex. Rex will be fine tanking because Corvin, and he'll actually get the Topple off unlike Tora.)

    • @CamusZekeSirius
      @CamusZekeSirius Před 2 lety +2

      @@jordanthejq12 That, but also Muscle Uppercut has better synergy with Crimson Storm

  • @justsomeguyontheinternet2251

    I kinda like Roc, he has a cool design, unique weapon type, and has a bit of charm. Too bad he sucks in battle and loses all relevancy in the story, always has, always will.

  • @tgclericoll572
    @tgclericoll572 Před 3 lety +42

    "Man I love chaining these driver combos AFK!"
    AI Rex refusing to switch off Roc: I LIKE YOUR ATTITUDE!

  • @CamusZekeSirius
    @CamusZekeSirius Před 3 lety +26

    Honestly, Roc may have been more suited to Vandham than Rex. See, you say that the level 4 is contradictory to the smash art, but on Vandham it synergies better because he has a launch art instead, and you can just cancel muscle uppercut into Crimson Storm, and with launch duration extension, could lead the way for someone else to smash. The fact that Vandham has great stats (especially in strength) for a driver compared to the others, I’d say that Roc would be better on Vandham had Vandham been a permanent party member, it’s actually more fun with Roc on Vandham anyhow. Now if only someone could make mod for permanent Vandham...

  • @HybridAngelZero
    @HybridAngelZero Před 3 lety +37

    Watching this, it just occurred to me that "Immovable Heir Carlos" is intended to be the descendant of Immovable Gonzalez from the first Xenoblade.
    I love it

    • @willycheez7218
      @willycheez7218 Před 2 lety +4

      Immovable Gonzalez is in this game too

    • @HybridAngelZero
      @HybridAngelZero Před 2 lety +4

      @@willycheez7218 Yep! Poppy even mentions him by name in a cutscene. That completely slipped my mind when I commented this. I still think the connection is cool though

    • @willycheez7218
      @willycheez7218 Před 2 lety +2

      @@HybridAngelZero Yeah. I think the Reinventing The Gogol challenge even takes place where you fight Immovable Gonzalez

  • @kamuihineragi4243
    @kamuihineragi4243 Před 3 lety +24

    “ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, ALWAYS WILL BE!” I just love using this line just because why not. Thanks for the guide Enel! Also tbh I’m also just waiting for the Kosmos guide just because I managed to get her in Chapter 5 while opening cores and salvaging in Indol... I wasn’t even intending to get her I was just opening cores to see what I would get!

  • @Hesauce
    @Hesauce Před 3 lety +24

    THE NAME IS ROC. ALWAYS HAS BEEN, ALWAYS WILL BE

  • @jamesc7894
    @jamesc7894 Před 3 lety +19

    How good is Roc? Used by Rex, Roc smashes paper and scissors

  • @borisbutterscotch9482
    @borisbutterscotch9482 Před 3 lety +13

    "He- or 4..." I see what you did there.

  • @Wlightning25
    @Wlightning25 Před 3 lety +23

    Roc is cool. I wish he stayed more relevant throughout the story though

  • @SuperOmega53
    @SuperOmega53 Před 3 lety +14

    These are so well done, can’t wait for the dagas guide aka put on party member

    • @Leopoldshark
      @Leopoldshark Před 3 lety +6

      Who is Dagas? You mean Kaiser Zone?

  • @ebgamesemployee2764
    @ebgamesemployee2764 Před 3 lety +8

    I thought this video was just going to be “use the smash art” then it would end

  • @dylanheywood2144
    @dylanheywood2144 Před 3 lety +33

    Gender: 4

  • @kantoemblem1745
    @kantoemblem1745 Před 3 lety +7

    I'm so happy the blade guides are back! Keep it up Enel!

  • @conorb.1901
    @conorb.1901 Před 3 lety +14

    Maybe Roc's level IV has launch damage up because Vandham has a launch art? But the smash art is better for obvious long term reasons and QT pi has launch and the best break art in one extremely overpowered package. I don't know, that's just a weird effect.

  • @aprettyfunnyperson4516
    @aprettyfunnyperson4516 Před 3 lety +6

    Ah yes, the best blade type
    Four

  • @Scerttle
    @Scerttle Před 3 lety +8

    I wish they let you keep Vandam in NG+ and you could overdrive any blade to him.

  • @thedemonicorangefridge1930
    @thedemonicorangefridge1930 Před 3 lety +13

    Although objectively he's not that great, I almost never have Roc off of Rex in a casual playthrough. It felt like having Vandham there for the rest of the game in spirit.
    Obligatory always has been always will be

  • @mishaseale8025
    @mishaseale8025 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks so much for creating these videos! They’re really helping me with post game builds and it’s curing my dependency on fioras crit heal screw edge build you showed in an earlier video 😂

  • @orangepotato2112
    @orangepotato2112 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for these videos! I'm still improving my blades and these guides have been a great help :D

  • @johnnyp9126
    @johnnyp9126 Před 3 lety +4

    you have no idea how hyped i am for all of these blade videos

  • @GeonamicWarrior
    @GeonamicWarrior Před 3 lety

    I love how you go into so much depth with the skills and battle tests. Can't wait to see a Blade Nia guide because I rarely hear anyone talk about her.

  • @m.taylor6890
    @m.taylor6890 Před 3 lety +2

    So glad to see the blade guides back.

  • @lightningwolf1727
    @lightningwolf1727 Před 3 lety +8

    I like Roc's design and character. Not much to say...If I were to upgrade him, I would have Storm and Stress not have the 30 second time limit. I would also increase his auto-attack damage by 100 from the listed value in the video.

  • @cameronsmith1229
    @cameronsmith1229 Před 9 měsíci +1

    A note about Roc's level 4 special: when used as the 3rd special in a blade conbo, the launch freezes and allows him to do big time damage on stuff like Volcanic Storm, AND still get the smash off if timed correctly.
    Edit: I say Volcanic Storm specifically so you can build Volcano and then use it as a finisher. This means just with story blade (Pyra, Wulfric, and Roc) you can Break/Stone, Topple/Volcano, and Smash/Volcanic Storm.

  • @mikemitchell6265
    @mikemitchell6265 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks Enel for another informative guide.

  • @themonkeyman2910
    @themonkeyman2910 Před 2 lety +5

    I used all story blades against Aion.
    Rex had Mythra, Nia, and Roc
    Tora had Poppi a + QT
    Zeke used Pandoria
    Roc works surprisingly well with Mythra and Nia. You can go ham with Mythra, once you start taking damage, switch to Roc, since he has an Art that is stronger when Rex has low HP. Once you use his Evasion Art to dodge an Enemy Art, switch to Nia and heal back all the damage you take.

  • @skx444
    @skx444 Před 3 lety +19

    I’m literally on chapter 5 on the first time why do I watch all of these

    • @tgclericoll572
      @tgclericoll572 Před 3 lety +5

      It's your subconscious mind debating with your inherriant OCD if you want to spend hours grinding S+ trust on all Rare blades because I'd look oh so good when you open your blade page.

    • @juanjosedelpinorivas7099
      @juanjosedelpinorivas7099 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tgclericoll572 Ehhm, you should seriously reconsider doing that with Ursula though 😂

    • @tgclericoll572
      @tgclericoll572 Před 3 lety

      @@juanjosedelpinorivas7099 I did Ursula like 2 years ago bud

    • @juanjosedelpinorivas7099
      @juanjosedelpinorivas7099 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tgclericoll572 Ohh, so you too went through the hell of her side quests, I feel moved right now. Frankly, the devs could have reduced the side quests to a 10% of the actual challenge, that was a nightmare.

    • @tgclericoll572
      @tgclericoll572 Před 3 lety

      @@juanjosedelpinorivas7099 I did it twice actually. It got reset for NG+ and was nagging me in my sidequest tab.

  • @Yes-cd2rq
    @Yes-cd2rq Před 3 lety +2

    These videos are why i got back into xenoblade.

  • @GrapeKioshi
    @GrapeKioshi Před 3 lety +5

    I tend to use a set up of Mythra, Zenobia, and Roc on Rex. At least that way I have most of the Driver Combo on Rex and I can just wait for someone else to break an enemy. In short, Roc literally sits there doing nothing unless I need to Smash something.

  • @strawhat8070
    @strawhat8070 Před 3 lety +3

    ROC[K] SMASH!! Omg after 200 hours I finally get it

  • @CammyMeeleTea
    @CammyMeeleTea Před 3 lety +24

    Roc isn't programmed as a 1 for Male Blade, 2 for Female Blade, or 3 for Animal Blade. He, and only he, is programmed as 4. As Rex's only Smash art (without DLC), they knew he forever would be the 4th slot.
    "I am Roc, always have been, always will be, in your 4th slot."
    Edit: I just realized you said "Him or 4".

    • @bluegem8582
      @bluegem8582 Před 3 lety +3

      technically poppibuster i believe also shares the 4 designation, but i assume thats because poppibuster is both a male and female robot due to poppi mk.II

  • @fabianpiepenstock5286
    @fabianpiepenstock5286 Před 3 lety +2

    I never playd roc but still this is helpfull keep up the good work and videos 👍

  • @BloodyHand29
    @BloodyHand29 Před 3 lety +2

    ENEL CONTENT LETS GOOOO

  • @fjcarmo0369
    @fjcarmo0369 Před 3 lety +1

    For a future video can you please do a video on the best driver combo party setups at different points in the game such as when the full break, topple, launch, smash combo is first possible in the game. A mid point team and then an endgame team outlining which drivers and blades are used as well as accessories, aux cores, chips, pouch items and all. I have only ever found one team setup that will work to do the full combo but I am curious what the best setups are and how fast and often you can possibly do the combo. Thank you.

  • @FinalMessenger13
    @FinalMessenger13 Před 3 lety +1

    Damn, and I used this levitating son of a gun heavily during both of my playthroughs. Seems I have to admit, that I have no idea which attributes, skills and effects in Xenoblade games are good or bad.
    Otherwise, a damn Roc-solid guide. I love these!

  • @NathanCundiff
    @NathanCundiff Před 2 lety +2

    I have Mythra and Roc on Rex in chapter 4 along with Corvin

  • @Fxbox920
    @Fxbox920 Před 3 lety +11

    I hate that i have to use him just for his smash art

  • @matthewpelletier6900
    @matthewpelletier6900 Před 3 lety +2

    IKs that the last of the guaranteed blades? How will the others be organized? By element? By weapon class? Alphabetically?

  • @SB-ex8nt
    @SB-ex8nt Před 3 lety +3

    Storm and Stress could've been something else and that would've really helped out.
    Maybe instead of increasing damage for the first 30 seconds of a fight, it should've constantly increased you offense every 30 seconds that pass.

  • @Magic_Ice
    @Magic_Ice Před 2 lety +1

    8:07 I got that reference

  • @JJGamezMC
    @JJGamezMC Před 3 lety +2

    the best part about roc is that you can say the number 4 and every xenoblade 2 fan will know what you’re talking about
    *AND THAT 4S ROC*
    *ALWAYS HAS BEEN*
    *ALWAYS WILL BE*

  • @penandtag
    @penandtag Před 3 lety +3

    Roc the blade I only use for wind field skill and smash combat art and also....
    to respect Vandham. So I use him all the time.

  • @meta527II
    @meta527II Před 2 lety +1

    Looks like now we have a guide on how to use the Pootis bird in this game

  • @buster1746
    @buster1746 Před 3 lety +2

    Can you smell what the Roc is cooking? A WING SMASH!

  • @Nekosuki01
    @Nekosuki01 Před 3 lety +10

    Ah Mr. Roc you may be a cool blade, but you're quite the forgettable boi still though Vandham would be proud :)

  • @humbertosantos6229
    @humbertosantos6229 Před 3 lety

    Help Enel.
    My current tem is:
    -Tora with qtpi;
    -Zeke with dagas for the topple and kaizer zone;
    - Rex with roc for the smash.
    I wanna switch roc with another smasher. I got corvin but should I give it to rex or Zeke? If I give it to zeke, I put mythra on rex as a main toppler but, I loose dagas Kaiser zone right? Or is Kaiser zone like a passive that is active even if he isn't in combat?

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  Před 3 lety

      nah kaizer zone only works if dagas is active. Better to use corvin on rex.

  • @csteegs8681
    @csteegs8681 Před 3 lety +1

    Storm and Stress reads like you don't get the percentage until AFTER the first 30 seconds

  • @mayalameen2452
    @mayalameen2452 Před 3 lety +1

    I know this is off topic, but how do you get burst affinity and synergy bonuses in Xenoblade Definitive. By the way, great video.

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  Před 3 lety

      its just a cooldown period, critical hits, missed attacks, stuff like that all works

  • @monkeykingw
    @monkeykingw Před 3 lety +1

    But what if you go to New Game Plus and level grind Vandahm?
    I mean sure, most of the Titans are off limits to him, but you can use him in Challenge Mode.

  • @erickluviano981
    @erickluviano981 Před 2 lety +2

    But ngl when he does his lvl4 special, and tells Rex to follow his lead it really does feel like vandhams still helping Rex

  • @benalvis6722
    @benalvis6722 Před 3 lety +2

    We will roc you!

  • @jonmcknight18
    @jonmcknight18 Před 3 lety +1

    So next is nia or aegaeon right?

  • @johnchitwood3328
    @johnchitwood3328 Před 2 lety

    Yesterday started xenoblade chronicles 2 ⭐️NewGame plus game ⭐️

  • @enzoforgets9456
    @enzoforgets9456 Před rokem

    Number 4 my beloved

  • @johnnooyen461
    @johnnooyen461 Před 3 lety +2

    I'm honestly curious what builds could be done if someone hacked blades onto other drivers, like letting someone else use QTpi

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  Před 3 lety

      no arts exist for QTpi on other drivers so this wouldn't really work

  • @asprinjuice8877
    @asprinjuice8877 Před 3 lety +1

    "Since he, or 4"
    lmao I love that

  • @guadatamayo3545
    @guadatamayo3545 Před 3 lety +1

    I wonder how you'll deal with Catalyst :o

  • @thisimagelooksslightlybett1020

    Was the other highest level enemy you were talking about that one aspar from that one challenge?

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  Před 3 lety

      strategizer nitro from the mk challenge. It's level 200 but also cannot be hurt really and just blows up later.

    • @thisimagelooksslightlybett1020
      @thisimagelooksslightlybett1020 Před 3 lety

      @@EnelXC were you talking about the enemy's initial level or the enemy's final/potential level?

  • @nodot17
    @nodot17 Před 3 lety

    speaking of vandham has anyone max out his chart in NG+
    I was surprised he had 1 at all tbh

  • @rhiannonbamford8741
    @rhiannonbamford8741 Před 3 lety +4

    Roc best 4.

  • @GumshoeClassic
    @GumshoeClassic Před 2 lety +2

    You know, looking through this comment section 9 months later, I'm suprised I haven't seen a single "lemme smash" joke considering that's pretty much all the bird man's good at.

  • @gigglez3036
    @gigglez3036 Před 3 lety +1

    How did it feel to build Roc? That merc mission skill tree is annoying

  • @nathanyuan7426
    @nathanyuan7426 Před 3 lety +2

    Completely off topic, but I saw something on your Twitter...

  • @Cobalt_375
    @Cobalt_375 Před 3 lety +1

    My cousin decked out Vandham before the boss fight. Maybe not his best decision.

  • @donkeynuts9096
    @donkeynuts9096 Před 3 lety +6

    Can you do Fiora next piz.

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  Před 3 lety +4

      she will come eventually no worries

  • @goatresgoatres468
    @goatresgoatres468 Před 3 lety +2

    FOR VANDHAAMMMMMMM

  • @ryans3199
    @ryans3199 Před 2 lety +1

    For a blade that doesn't have very high damage output, there sure is quite a few ways to set him up. TFW you matter so little that it doesn't matter what you help with.

  • @Escazu1976
    @Escazu1976 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi! Which challenge should I play to get Affinity Max Atk VI?

    • @GurpreetSingh-rx9cw
      @GurpreetSingh-rx9cw Před 3 lety +1

      Buy devoted marigold nia aux core for 20 flawless stones. It has same effect

    • @Escazu1976
      @Escazu1976 Před 3 lety

      @@GurpreetSingh-rx9cw thank you!

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  Před 3 lety +1

      chickenheart challenge also works

    • @Escazu1976
      @Escazu1976 Před 3 lety

      @@EnelXC thanks! ✌🏻

  • @beoreon1
    @beoreon1 Před 3 lety +1

    What did you mean about not applying the fusion combo in the right order?

    • @maximilianbehrens3471
      @maximilianbehrens3471 Před 3 lety

      hitting a blade special on a running driver combo does lots more dmg than hitting a driver combo on a running blade combo

    • @beoreon1
      @beoreon1 Před 3 lety

      @@maximilianbehrens3471 but he did the special after the driver combo started, so I’m still not sure what he meant.

  • @Tachtzehn
    @Tachtzehn Před 3 lety +1

    3:03, wait, Storm & Stress doesn't reactivate every time you switch to Roc?
    Why does the Architect allow crap like this to happen?
    Nevermind that the wording can be interpreted to do 2 completely different things.
    (Boost during 1st 30 sec only, or boost for remainder of fight after 30 sec have passed)

  • @creeperizak8971
    @creeperizak8971 Před 3 lety +1

    Roc is cool and all but I hope you plan on uploading more Xenosaga today.
    10:51 Roc's gotta smash as much as he can

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  Před 3 lety

      My current plan is alternate a guide with a saga vid

    • @creeperizak8971
      @creeperizak8971 Před 3 lety

      @@EnelXC
      Alright, I'm looking forward to it!

  • @CARR10N194
    @CARR10N194 Před 3 lety +6

    4

  • @justinbowman1342
    @justinbowman1342 Před 3 lety +2

    Honestly, the only reason I ever use Roc is having a smash art on Rex.

  • @jackleveille9319
    @jackleveille9319 Před 3 lety

    I still used him to beat both Malos and Aion.
    That was for Vandham!

  • @heropontorchic1979
    @heropontorchic1979 Před 3 lety +2

    Should I be concerned that one of 2 bird blades in the game focuses on killing other birds?

  • @radioactivecheesenowinnucl4746

    Wait, so Storm and Stress is damage increase in the FIRST 30 seconds of battle, and not AFTER the first 30 seconds? Despite its description?

  • @JohnRambo1947-July-6th

    His smash is fast though at least

  • @Fatalordi
    @Fatalordi Před 3 lety +1

    Roc could have been truly good with Vandham in chapter 3 at quick-killing ejected bosses. Unfortunately, the bosses in chapter 3 are all drivers, which make them very difficult to be ejected.

  • @hganesha5295
    @hganesha5295 Před 3 lety

    12:30 what is he referring to as highest level thing in the game

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  Před 3 lety +2

      enemy in mk viii that has a level 200 enemy who cant attack but takes no damage and eventually explodes

  • @lightsanctity2100
    @lightsanctity2100 Před 3 lety +1

    Dwayne Johnson is also the "Roc(k)" lol

  • @TheGloryXros
    @TheGloryXros Před 3 lety

    Roc is built to be pretty much the Aerial Monster Slayer.

  • @TheStupidRaptor
    @TheStupidRaptor Před 3 lety +4

    I was hoping you would do Poppibuster next, since he/she/they is another form of Poppi. Will you do Poppibuster after you do Nia and Aegaeon? Speaking of which, how are you going to do Nia without spoiling?

    • @maximilianbehrens3471
      @maximilianbehrens3471 Před 3 lety +1

      probably just a censored thumbnail with the chapter you should have finished mentioned 🤷

  • @Schluggo
    @Schluggo Před 3 lety +2

    Okay he might not be the best blade in combat but at least Wing Smash is a really fast Smash art, we take those

  • @irtehmrepic
    @irtehmrepic Před 3 lety +1

    He's the Roc Hawk.
    Wait, wrong bird character? Shit.

  • @MRP0E
    @MRP0E Před 3 lety +1

    roc

  • @pronounjow
    @pronounjow Před 3 lety +2

    Roc Smash? What is this? Pokemon?

  • @voidofecto
    @voidofecto Před 3 lety +2

    Boreas guide when

  • @ChrisStoneinator
    @ChrisStoneinator Před 3 lety +1

    Was expecting a one second video consisting only of "Don't"