Why I REFUSE To Review Xenoblade Chronicles 2
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- I am not enjoying Xenoblade Chronicles 2 for Nintendo Switch. But is it still worth the price however? Here is my Anti-Review on Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and why I'm not having fun playing it. Is Xenoblade Chronicles 2 right for you? That's not a call I can make.
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This is the most “i like you... as a friend” review of a game ive seen
D2G 😂😂😂
Totally
Shelfzoned
Agreed
I love you....and all you guys!
Refuses to review Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
Reviews Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
Caleb Rudd It was more he was bashing it because he didnt understand any of the mechanics.
Time to explain the joke, I guess. The point I was trying to make was that it was funny because this video is essentially a review of Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
Kerrag3 he made it clear he’s incapable of using his brain at all.
Was gonna say the exact same thing but thought id check if someone had already said it. BaitEmUps
You missed it when he called it a review non review, didnt you?
I know how he feels, there’s this game everyone loves, everyone’s praising but you just can’t get behind it. You can respect what it does and you really, really wanna like it but you just can’t.
Bloodboooooorne
Breath of the wild
Witcher 3
That's me with Breath Of The Wild
Agreed
Why almost 6k dislikes this was very fair and it felt like you were apologising for not liking the game. How can people be mad at that
you'd be surprised how riled up people get over someone having a different opinion than them on something meaningless
I considered disliking it because of the clickbait title
Because he did understand the mechanics of the combat... like didn’t read any of the tutorials for the first 10 hours bad. If you play the game you can see how much his argument doesnt make sense. The combat is incredibly complex and hands on.
@Christopher The criticism is actually more unfair than you recognize. On the one hand, he's correct; you can gain a few levels and auto-attack enemies to death. And so you're sitting there watching for ten minutes. Not fun, agreed. OR you can learn the combat system and waste those enemies in seconds. OR... and here's where it actually gets fun, you can learn the combat mechanics, challenge enemies that have 10+ levels on you, and then start to open up new challenges that shouldn't be available until much later.
If you watch the game footage, you see how little progress he made. His instinct was correct: he's not in a position to review the game. The comments about it not being for him are totally fair. I suspect that it wouldn't change when he gets new party members, rare blades, etc. But to make value judgments on gameplay, story, and the like, when he has only experienced the surface level of a progressive system, is where the offence creeps in. Incidentally, the game doesn't throw it all at the player at the beginning precisely because there is a learning curve. It gives you time to master techniques before adding new ones. And this should come as no surprise, but in order to learn them, you can't just zone out and put the controller down.
All that being said, I think this might be my new all-time favorite, but I'm not mad at him (responding to the original comment). I did unsub a while back and am only here again in a moment of sheer boredom. I trust no one would be mad to learn I unsubbed. Why would I do that? No intent to offend or knee-jerk reaction. I just would rather have CZcams alert me when someone who shares my tastes posts something new.
Because no one cares about this snowflakes issues.
This style isn't for everyone. It's the only game I've been able to play since DEC 1st. I enjoy it and hope X gets ported cause I loved that one. Definitely not for everyone and it has its faults, yes
The map system is completely frustrating!! I keep going for the neww blades and abilities
Map system is getting a patch, thankfully. Don't look up the patch notes if you don't want spoilers about a character though.
Its cause its a big game. People are impatient.
I actually felt the same way at the same amount of time as the reviewers, but kept going and it just keeps getting better.
I love the game. I'm on chapter 4, but there are issues such as the map, and the combat isn't as exciting to me as X, and as mentioned in the video it is a bit weird when I'm level 28 and it takes me and 2 other companions like 5 minutes to beat a level 18 opponent. But overall I love it, and as I said, since it came out, it's been my go to game. Huge RPG fan. I'm in heaven with the Switch with Skyrim, BOTW, and Xeno on it. If they bring Fallout, I'll have a stroke. I know there's an update coming for the map on the 22nd, so that's awesome.
PJ Parker I can't wait. I might be in the minority, but I loved the freedom X gave me
My guy, lvl 14 is still the beginning of the game. OF COURSE you can auto attack for the win. The game is still bringing you up to speed
Yeah. Honestly combat doesn't get interesting until around hour 30-40. Once you unlock more blades and start to chain attacks it's much more fun.
30-40 hours? isn't that like the main story in other games? That's a bit much for it to start getting interesting. But that's my opinion not trying to hate a game that's looks good, it's just not for me
For most games that is the entire story, but I it took me 100+ hours just to beat the story in XBC2. I probably could have finished it in 60-70 hours but still.
I say 30-40 to get interesting because by that point you have a lot more characters, blades, and practice with the combat system. The bad thing is your third party member is only able to use 1 blade which limits some of your options at the beginning. Since some combos are dependent on elements you don't have much to play around with at first.
Really you need to level up some of your abilities too so there isn't as much downtime. It's not a hack-and-slash set up at all. Abilities can be used randomly but for them to get more power out of you you need to time them just right. It takes a lot of practice before you realize all the different things going on.
Each ability has a CD as well, so it faster to build your meter by switching out to a different blade who have already come off CD, before unleashing your combos.
J Corley Meh, for me that's too much gameplay for one game. I can see why others would like it but it's just not for me.
But at some point I should give it a try...
Even once I had more blades I still thought the combat system was plodding. Even if you were hitting every combo and swapping at every moment you should be, it took way too long to fuckin beat some random monsters
I love this game, easily in my top 3. My main problem with it is the lack of knowledge on pouch items. Pouch items are an integral part of the game, and the combat is slowed down significantly if you don't have a dessert item in your pouch. I went through my first play through without using pouch items, so i never switched of mythra/pyra because the driver arts have low cd. Oh, and the game just doesn't tell you that there is a "sweet spot" for every weapon type. Yeah, i didn't know either until 80 hours in. Every weapon has a range that they deal extra damage in, Ring type weapons are short range, swords are medium, and Cannons are long. You can see this in the bottom right corner with the element. If it's flashing, you are dealing extra damage. Fusion combos are nowhere near explained enough even though they are the main way you do damage. Quest waypoints dissapearing when you don't have the right blades equipped is also a problem. The game never explains to you that the waypoints and quest givers dissapear if you don't have the right blades equipped. Once you fully learn almost every aspect the combat system of the game, however; it's some of the most fun you can have, seeing your blades constantly hit the damage cap, and soloing superbosses. The skill curve is almost like league of legends in the way that the game is only fun once you have learned almost everything about the game.
TLDR : The game has an extremely steep skill curve, and gives you nowhere near enough info, also use dessert pouch items. Weapon range mechanic is also never explained.
115 hours in. I did not know about the sweet spot 🤦🏾♂️
@@ZainArtz I've just finished it and just found out the charge meter at the top must be filled before you can revive a downed team member. Missed that tutorial it seems 😂
I Never used them, finished the game on normal without a sweat.
Fun to say, I also didn't even used the gacha system because I hate it, and played with the same 8 blades (Pyra, Roc, Agate, Dromarch, Boreas, Corsette, Poppi and Poppi QTpie). Still managed to kill everything in sight. Never bothered with Aux Cores either because they looked like worthless ''fine tuning'' where you struggle to feel the difference unless it's agro or link boosts or even equip items unless vests.
Pretty much I only used core chips for the weapons. Easy game, too easy to be bothered with items that have little impact.
Huh, I've never rlly heard of these two mechanics almost 300h in. Funny how xenoblade 2 doesn't explain its food System properly and xenoblade 3 does but it doesn't work!
It was in my top 3 back in the day too. Now it's the Nr. 1
Although I really love this game I still can agree in many points with you. The comatsystem really needs much time to get engaging. But I really cant say the story is bad or generic it is such a good story and thats probably also due to the fact that you were just in about 15 hours in the game, but it starts getting better and better after time.
EXACTLY he had such a bad take on the story
I understand where you are coming from but re-read what you wrote... "You were just in about 15 (FIFTEEN) hours in the game, but it STARTS getting better and better after time."
There are many games that only run about 15 hours and are amazing start to finish...If I have to wait 15+ hours to START enjoying a game's story...then there might be a problem with said game. That does not take away how amazing the game might be after; but you have to admit that is a pretty big flaw of a video game to not be able to properly grab my attention 15 hours in.
@@harrys1946 that’s not how it works for a story. A story is almost never immediately super engaging. Beatemups is a huge cry baby
@@SmallHappyOtter I can't even take you serious right now. You responded like a 10 year old while somehow making even less sense than an actual ten year old. yikes.
The game's story didn't need to be immediately engaging. But it had 15 hours to do so. And it didn't. Plain and simple. And it goes beyond story. Combat also doesn't start to get interesting until about 20 hours in. The second half of the game is good; but ignoring it's initial flaws and not understanding why a person would be put off by it is extremely childish.
@@harrys1946 I definitely agree on the combat taking at least 15 hours to be interesting, but not the point about the story. The world design, the frankly amazing cinematics and the initial unlocking of optional blades all happen before the 15 hour mark.
... Can I have it?
Danial Boules lol
I was thinking the same thing lol can I have it since ya don’t want it 😂
I guess
He isn't really feeling it.?
RuinedBlackCat DON’T FORGET ME
We need a Shulk-Shorts Mod
That was good.
This never gets old.
Tunnel snakes rule!
This is by far my favorite Switch game! and I play it on the Switch Lite. Yes, There is a Free japanese voice dlc. I agree, the first 10 hours or so is more like a tutorial. But for a game you can easily put 100+ hours in I can't complain.
People keep parroting the "it gets better at 30-40 hours" but I digress they haven't played the game.. Also at 30-40 hours you are at chapter 4-5 with a bit of sode quests unless you really sck at playing JRPG..
They always compare it to Xenoblade 1's story but Xenoblade 2 is not Xenoblade 1 so that should not be done.. Look in the game for what it is and just accordingly..
I Like Xenoblade 1's Seinen type of story telling and sadly Xenoblade 2 have the Shounen type of story telling.. If you don't like it it's better to just sh*t the fck up...
Tho I agree in your comment.. Just sayin.
I love this game so much! One of my favorite games of all time and in not even close to finishing. I'm 21 hours in and my characters are level 24. I just unlocked chain attacks. I'm straight up addicted to this game now.
@@missgrinch5940 Enjoy.. Don't rush cause you'll be on a roller coaster of emotions soon.
During the ending boss fight. Dont wanna spoil it for all two fans that havent done it yet 😂
Anyways during the final fight I was able to spam my B and Y arts through cancelling. Was this something I could always do and was just being a big dumb?
@@linkdabest2 The Light Aegis Blade have a skill that can reset your arts on critical hit. I thinks that's what's happenig there.
I didn't enjoy it when I first bought it either. I put it down for a couple of months and then started watching combat videos on it to better understand the combat system. Once I got the timing and combo chaining down I started having a BLAST!!! I'm so glad I picked it back up, it's now one of my favorite games, love the story, game play is really fun, and it's absolutely beautiful. Hope you give it a replay sometime in the future and fall in love.
This is exactly what happened to me
Same here
Same thing happened to me
I ended up getting stuck somewhere and dropped the game for months too (wasn’t having fun anyway).
I restarted and had a blast too.
I hope this happens to me with this "auto attack" type of combat system. I feel like i just wasted few bucks for this.
These comments are alarmingly civil
im surprised as well
Jordan Duncan this is how a nice and healthy community looks like, get used to it in here
I have Xenoblade Chronicles X and I admitted on Miiverse that I thought it was a beautiful bore. I was surprised that the general response from Xenoblade fans was, "Yeah, it appeals to a niche so it's not surprising a lot of people don't like it." And here I thought I'd be accused of being literally Hitler for saying I didn't like their favorite game.
The xenoblade games are a strange bunch, kind of reminds me of monster hunter in a way; it's somewhat unique in gameplay, you like it or you don't, and its easy to see why people are, or not, into those games
Jules Hamel i like xenoblade i had almost a thosand hours in x so i just hope this keeps me for a simmilar ammount of time
I played this game for three hours and stopped playing for four months. However, I thought I should retry it, so I did. Now I’m 85 hours in and lvl 76.
GG
Same for me played a few hours stopped several months later I end up putting about 200 hours
Same experience here. 25 hours into it, somewhere in Uraya I got stuck and fed up with the map system. I got so close to deleting the game. Somehow right past that point it clicked with me and I just finished the main story with 90 hours clocked into it. One of my favorite games for sure. I just wish it was longer.
Pretty much same. I lost interest, put it down for a month or two and completed to entire Zelda games in the meantime, then made myself pick it back up and soon enough I was finally hooked. I’ve beat the game, am around level 78 and am running around finishing off sidequests and fighting superbosses just because I’m not ready to leave that brilliant world yet.
140 hours into it now (50 hours of postgame so far) and I just got hooked AGAIN after discovering the challenge mode 😂 I haven't even finished all quests yet, let alone started NG+ or Torna. It's insane how much content this game has. I can't believe I almost uninstalled it after 25 hours.
Completed this game after 75hours and the ending hit me right in the feels..... Right. In. The. Feels
fak yes! how many hours did you spend now? i have spent 250 hours now + 20 for torna (both completed!) - i love it and i can not wait for xenoblade chronicles 3/X2
I take it you've never played the first game, because that ending was not only better and lacking any plot conveniences, but host to a much better story with characters who actually develop throughout the course of the game, unlike Xenoblade 2's cast who can pull bullshit out of their arses without prior knowledge or explanation.
Bufudyne are the two games related? 1 and 2?
@@VizMaior yep, but not exactly, i think starting with 2 is better, you will better orientate in the story line.
Mine was 100 hour ish
" I don't need to use arts "
It was at this moment he knew,
He fucked up
Yea
😂😂😂 read this in Morgan Freeman's voice
I mean you don't early.
So much of the games combat mechanics are gated by story progress. When I picked it up (loved the original) I was pumped. After a few hours I was bored. I was forcing myself to play. Once they opened up orbs etc the combat started to become a lot of fun. I get why people put it down and never pick it up again because the reality is you shouldn't need to play for 20+ hours to get to the point it becomes enjoyable and they take the training wheels off. I have a finite amount of time in my life snd a finite amount of it I can spend gaming.
@@BoydTheMilkmanX exactly this.
I'm sorry to break it to you, but I'm pretty sure this thing is a review
Morten Riis Svendsen this is a review, and he hated it
Channy Witch he did not hate it he did not like it
Got em
Morten Riis Svendsen No
Morten Riis Svendsen it's a first impressions saying he won't finish it so he won't review it
Well you didn’t forget him tho
Lmfao, true that. He got in the video.
ok i know im very late but if anyone is watching this videos and are woried about the combat being slow its not its just that the tutorials are awful and id say that the majority of people who find the combat slow and boring this is the reason
1 the auto atack isnt for dealing damage:what you shoud be doing is - each auto attack has a 3 hit system with it doing more damage each hit after the first hit move this will reset the combo back to hit 1 the auto attack is for charching your arts you should only be using your 3rd auto attack for canceling into your art than canceling that art into the next and that into the next this will do way more damage than just auto attacking and using your arts when you get them
2 use pouch items you get like the 3rd best item (the narcepair jelly) at the begining of the game
you definatly should play this game with a guide because ingame information is awfull
Okay, I just started this game a couple of weeks ago and I'm right where you quit, around 15 hours in, and was ready to give this mess up. I think your video has convinced me to keep trying at least for another hour or two. The voices of some characters are terrible and repetitive, combat isn't very great, then that waypoint you mentioned after completing the Nia rescue in the ship... I roamed for over half an hour and couldn't find the way until I googled it. I shouldn't have to do that. To go with that, enemies of massively varied levels are randomly scattered about, so too often I either end up having 2 or more other enemies joining a fight I am in, overwhelming my party, or some huge level 80 thing stomps over and kills my group while I fight things near my level. Just seems like a LOT of bad game design choices, but maybe if I can get past this area I will pass that hump where it gets fun. I'm going to try anyway. 20 hours of suck could be worth over 100 hours of great fun.
Wow, I'm +40 hours into the game, and I'm just starting to see the reviews. So, I just noticed how many people got lost in Uraya to find the capital. In my case, I just saw a big area and thought "alright, time to explore". In that kind of person who likes to see every zone before even going to the main objective, so, finding the capital was just me casually exploring, finding it, and then turning back to see the places I didn't see. Now I see how many people is complaining how difficult is to get there, and . . . I definitely can see why. Since my main objective was wander around and not going to the main mission, I didn't notice the difficulty of finding the way there, while the rest of the people who did focused on that were completely lost, because of the verticality of the area, and the specific things to do in order to get there. One thing that I completely agree is that the voice acting is bad, and, I may angry a lot of people (I'm Hispanic, I talk both English and Spanish), but almost every japanese product that is dubbed in English sucks. I don't get how they do it, but 80% of the time it sounds embarrassing. I'm not saying there's not bad dubbing in Hispanic countries, because they are; nevertheless, at least they capture the emotion of the original voice acting without sounding ridiculous most of the time.
the games not for everyone...i love it tho...its a really niche game...the entire series is like that...not everyone like these strange JRPGs...i love it tho
Absolutely! Not for everyone, but great for those that like these kinds of games!
The combat imo is way to slow compare to x but I love the game just wish they would revamp the weapon art exp and affility
BeatEmUps how dare you feel differently about the voice acting eat this! Aaaaiyah!!!😂
Agreed but and this is another great opinion video
Dwight Powder I love this game too. Everyone has their own opinion though. I'm sad I finished it haha
The reason you can't find waypoints on a few quests is because those specific quests need to be done at certain times of the day. The waypoints do appear if you are at the correct time. I was also confused by this at first.
And they allow you to change the time of day. Once I found that out I was set.
Additionally, some of the quests he was showing that didn't have waypoints were ones that required him to collect items that are found anywhere so the game doesn't give waypoints for those. He hopefully would have realized that if he had looked at what the quest objective was.
This my favorite Switch Game I got the hang of it after 10 hours into it, I’m now 185 hours in on chapter 10 hooked like a mf Game of the year imo
honestly fair, I played up to the Malos and Akhos fight (about 20 hours in), died a bunch, took a break from the game until my back log was slightly more manageable, came back WAS FORCED TO UNDERSTAND THE DEEPER MECHANICS and THEN I started having a lot of fun
You didn't care for the game, and that's totally fair. This game is absolutely not for everyone, and definitely falls into more of a niche. I personally adore this game, and can comfortably call it my game of the year. However I can totally understand all of your complaints (as a sidenote, I can also understand the complaints of people who don't enjoy Telltale's Walking Dead, which is also one of my all time favourites). At the end of the day, people have different tastes, and that's okay.
I think a good example of this is that I personally don't like the first Metroid Prime. I've played through it, and while I found a lot to love about the game, at the end of the day it just wasn't my cup of tea. That doesn't mean it's a bad game. I think Metroid Prime deserves the praise it's recieved. At the end of the day it's just not for me, and that's okay. And at the end of the day, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is just not for you, and that's okay.
PhazonSpaceSystems you see. It wouldn't be a problem. Everyone knows jrpgs aren't everyone's cup I tea. People are more mad about the mis informations where he's saying that auto attacking is all you need to achieve victory.
Mitchell Carroll that's because they dubbed the game. They didn't go back and redid all the lyp syncing for the English version. I always say that this game was meant to be played in Japanese
I love it too
im a hardcore jrpg fan and i despise this game
I like the first Xenoblade tbh, not the best, but def better than this game in many aspects.
THIS. This is perfect. Not liking a game doesn’t meant it is bad. It means it’s not for you. Good non-review-review-rant-non-rant lol I wish more people had this mindset.
Eventually more people will understand how "preferences" work in the gaming industry; right now it's just a contest of "this game is better than this one".
It was really a reason as to why I didn't play Xenoblade games on other systems. The combat was bad imo
HEHE I AM TRUE BLEU POKEMANZ the combat is great the problem is the games don’t tell you how to fully utilise it properly
Or maybe it means that the series isn't as liked as Nintendo thought.
Blaster master take that kind of negativity elsewhere! Lol I mean xenoblade chronicles was only brought to the US after a FAN petition campaign to do so. I think it’s a pretty well liked series
I've been watching a lot of your content for a while starting mid-to late-2019 and I wanted to come to this and see what the hate on your dislike for XC2 was about. As a person that actually likes the game, I can fully agree with most of the points you made in this video, especially with the combat system. It actually is interesting and engaging and it requires a lot of thinking and strategy, but it only gets that way after investing sooo much time into the game, which isn't a good thing, so it's perfectly fair to see it the way you did 15 hours in.
In any case, I love your content and I hope you hit a million very soon. Keep it up, BeatEmups!
3:25 *Fights level 9 basic enemy as level 14*
"I can just auto-attack and win! Game too ez!
play smt
and ardainian soldiers dont have very much hp
*Review But Not a Review*
Nope he's admitting that he's not commenting on the game in its entirety because he didn't like it from the start which explains why this isn't a real review situation.
Oof, he stopped playing at like the worst possible point.
Gormott is really rough and confusing as you slowly figure out how the game is put together. I had a bit of trouble too, but then I started to figure out that "Oh, I actually need to pay attention to quests and environment layout instead of run straight toward waypoints all day like Skyrim."
But after that learning curve, the game continues to expand and swell with improvements.
I don't think he has even unlocked half of the combat mechanics by that point...
Well he is very right about holding off a full review until he plays more, if he does.
The map is probably the most frustrating part of this game. Mostly in Gormott, because it's a very spaced out area, but there are certain points after that are super annoying without a guide (I'm looking at you, abandoned factory).
DaCo Video If at playing a game for 15 hours you still don’t enjoy it, that’s not “the worst possible point”, that’s just the game.
diamondsmasher have you played XBC2? Because his point is very valid within the contexts of the game. Things get juicy once everything clicks in at about chapter 3/4.
I mean, it's a valid point that the first fifteen hours shouldn't be horrible and unengaging. Even JRPGs need to carefully draw their interest curve. But of course, the original point holds more than a little merit, as the game really does take that long to unlock most of the combat elements. The narrative hasn't hit the strongest hook (end of chapter 3), you can't even perform driver combos, and yeah, Gormott is easily one of the hardest areas to figure out in the game.
You can't blame someone for getting tired after nearly 20 hours of what is essentially a very extended tutorial. However, the game really does pick up in Mor Ardain.
DaCo Video 7:30 he said the story is surface level, this is when I stopped listening to him
I just noticed that Panasonic Q in the background. You sir are a man of class.
I actually put the game down after an hour because of the combat style but I heard so many good things about it so I decided to try it again. I have to say after that break coming back knowing what I have to expect, I'm actually kind of enjoying the combat now. Still not the best I've ever experienced but something I can live with.
Just because so many people love a game doesn’t mean you have to agree as well, especially if you’re reviewing the content for your channel.
I’m sad because this is my favorite game on the switch lol. I may be bias because this game reminded of my favorite game of all time Final Fantasy 9 but I really enjoyed this game
Same
FF9 was my favorite game ever! I need to pick this game up now!
Loved FF9. I feel it is overlooked because 7 was...well 7(best game ever IMO) ..and then 8 kinda sucked IMO and let us down. Some people did not even pick up and try 9 cause of 8
Mr. Fiddlesticks that be amazing
Although the autobattle is more attuned to FFXII. Why be sad about a differing opinion. If you find enjoyment in the game, don't let others not liking it or seeking their approval affect your enjoyment of it. We each have our own preferences.
“Surface level story, basic for what it is” I’m sorry what
he really didnt get far enough in to say that edit: sorry for a two month old reply lol
Is this the puppsicle from Twitter by any chance
Really late response, but I felt the story was predictable, even after beating it, I don't feel it was bad, still enjoyable, but it just disappointed me after loving the first games story so much.
Wtf
@@JaxonEmery PREDICTABLE? LMAO
I've loved the game since the start. A buddy of mine pushed me to get it when I got a switch and he honestly turned me onto one of my favorite franchises. If it's not for you? That's fine man. Live your life. Play what you wanna play
Same tbh, XC2 hooked me way quicker than XC1 did
Good on you for criticizing it honestly and not pandering to the fanboys. I honestly think I'd like the game because after a long day's work I love chilling out and switching off behind a game like this.
Thanks for the comment. I was of course worried to put this video out but ultimately decided to just be honest about how I felt about it. It's hard because I KNOW it's not a bad game, I am just really not jelling with it.
Hope you enjoy it!
I don't think Wood likes RPGs, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is for hardcore gamers and does not cater for casual gamers at all.
Stacona
You can still be a hardcore gamer and not enjoy Xenoblade Chronicles 2. In the end it comes down to personal preferences.
Stacona i love JRPGs, but Xenoblade 2 looks so boring to me. The landscapes look amazing, but that combat just looks awful.
JRPG's combat usually start out simple. There's actually a lot going on with the combat as it goes. Its far from just auto attack which you can only get away with early on or very low level monsters. Its similar how JRPG's early on I'm usually just pressing "attack", it doesn't get more complex until later.
Man people are salty in this comment section...
If the game isn't fun for someone after 15 hours, then it just isn't fun for them. I have definitely personally dropped loads of games before even the 5 hour mark that I wasn't enjoying. Sometimes a game just isn't right for you. No harm in saying that.
I thought he was very clear throughout the video that it's his opinions and things could get better much later, but that he wasn't willing to slog through the stuff he isn't enjoying.
I think the people are just a bit bothered by some of the false information he is spreading in this video about the battle system rather than not being his cup of tea.
@@immagamerguy8447 he isnt spreading flase info, I felt exactly the same. I wanted to love this game so bad, but i couldnt get into it, well it gets better well maybe but I dont want to play 15 hrs+ just to get into it. He didnt want to review it in the first place
He didn’t play 15 hours if he played 15 hours his info wouldn’t be wrong
@@willrivera5398 who are you to say if he has or has not, do u have data to back that up? How do u know what he spent his time doing, maybe he got lost cause I know I have spent a stupid hour looking for a mission cause that map is garbage, I wanted to love the game too I bought it over zelda and I regreted it ever since. I sold it a week later cause the combat was boring to me
Agreed. I wanted to like this game and even read comments saying it started out slow so I kept playing for 20 hours until I was just like man this game is wack I'm not gonna keep playing this.
Investing 15 hours in a game is ALOT. If you ask me its a FLAW if it dont grab you by atleast the 10th hour.
No screw that. If a game hasn’t grabbed you in its first hour your doing something wrong
Haha normies
You should have to wait for a game to get fun
SwollNimation 15 hours tho? Cmon
@@societyman9219 I meant to say shouldn't
This is way off topic but what figure is that MewTwo on your shelf? Is it an amiibo? :)
I'm like the only one who like the voice acting. Especially Nia.
There are indeed some cringy voices in the game. Boreas's voice drives me bonkers as does Roc's, and I initially couldn't stand Dahlia's voice, but it admittedly started to grow on me a tad. I think the stand out voices are Nia & Morag. Wonderful Welsh & Scottish accents. I don't think I've ever heard a welsh accent in a game before?!?!
You need to download the Japanese voice pack, it is way better.
Shut up, Shinji , like to watch my cutscenes, not read them
Nia's English VA really grew on me. She put a lot of character into her delivery. Unfortunately, the animations don't reflect the same personality as the voice, so there's a weird disjoint between body language and vocal intonation. And I'm not just talking about lip-syncing.
Switching to Japanese Audio does fix this, but I feel like that removes the charm of her English VA. I just wish it was all as good as the first game. Adam Howden's Shulk was an unmatched performance rarely seen in video games as a meduim
I liked Nias voice the best actually!
Hey dude when are you going to review xeno blade? Not buying it until you review it
That was pretty funny!
Isn't this technically a review
just see other reviews
drone
Mike Breezy this is basicly a review
Monster Hunter for me. Its great game but i cant find my self playing it long enough to enjoy it.
Did you play with friends? I was the same way with the franchise initially and gave it a second go round with played with some friends that were knowledgeable with the game. They showed me the ropes along the way and made the game more approachable
@@xxJay2Freshxx i dont have friends that have switch and enthusiasts gamer, so no. And im more one player type so yeah thats sums it up.
And also im really sucks in playing monster hunter. I already tired beating the first boss! 😂
I respect your review and I can tell you I'm still going to try it out! Thanks for the honesty it helps! Maybe they patched some things since you first played it, it has been a while!
Nope 15 hours in, a year after your comment. Same problems he mentioned. Underwhelming game.
@@shihoblade nope 200 hours in this game is legendary
No worries. This is for people who like certain aspects like the story. I hate certain games, like say wrestling games for instance. Everyone is different. It's not a big deal if you like it or don't like it.
please tell that you're joking
Giovanni Miorandi exactly what part seems like a joke to you? That I like the story? That I hate wrestling games? That it’s not a big deal what games other people enjoy or don’t enjoy? I genuinely can’t tell. So I’ll just say that I do like the story, I do hate wrestling games in general (except a certain Simpsons wrestling game that I forgot I used to enjoy with my nephews) and it isn’t a big deal when another person doesn’t enjoy the same games.
JRPG's arent for everyone. I personally really enjoyed the first xenoblade back in the Wii days and loved X, so I had no problem easing myself into chronicles 2. I know a lot of reviewers referred to the first game as one of the greatest games ever made. And while I would stand by that statement, I feel like that opinion is extremely subjective. It's much easier to say its one of the best games in the genre, as so many people would have a bias towards one style of game over another.
yeah true. I could easily say tho if you loved Xenoblade 1, Xenoblade 2 will probably be one of your favorite games in the last 6 years. If you have never played Xenoblade 1 I'd probably recommend picking that game up first since it's a lot cheaper these days.
But XC2 isn't even a traditional JRPG!
Totally agree whit your opinion, although the first Xenoblade still is one of the best 10 games I've played in my life and I've been playing games since the 16 bit era.
This isn't a traditional JRPG tho ...
Space Kitty I just bought the Wii version at gamestop it was 50$ used. The 3ds version is 35$.
Is it like the gambit system in Final Fantasy where you 'pre-programme' characters battle actions?
I avoided this game for so long because of this video and I thought the game would suck. Then I played it, and it's literally my favorite game on switch.... It's a bummer that this video will prevent a lot of people from enjoying an amazing piece of art
This video is sheet
Same here friend.
I respect your opinion but on your point with battles taking too long it's because you are literally standing there not timing attacks or using skills/combos the right way. For example some skills are more effective depending on which side of the enemy you attack. Some side attacks skills lowers enemy defence, skills that debuff them, and then their are skills that do massive damage if you hit them from behind (you can essentially use all these skills together to further increase the damage of your other skills) Making battles end very quickly.
Giovann Hernandez
Remember you can move your character to restart auto attack chains too. This removes most of the lag after a auto attack chain ends.
I'd also like to add that in the beginning of the game, I literally did not know about the elemental combo's you could do even after chain attacks were introduced, I skipped the tutorials and every fight was going so slow. However once I realized you could chain the specials fights were going a lot faster. And the auto reset is extremely helpful to.
The point it though before you can use that skill, you just sit there and wait for it by auto attacking.
It plays like a pseudo mmo, you can lvl up all your skills so not only does it increase their damage but reduces their cooldown times. There are even skills that speeds up the cooldown rates, it doesnt really take that long to lvl these up and have the cooldowns lowered enough so you are always on the offensive with your abilities. He is only showing early lvl gameplay and playing it completly wrong so of course it looks slow.
Ah, the old "you don't like it because you're not playing it the right way" line. Never gets tired...
THINK YOU CAN TAKE ME?
DON'T FORGET ME!
Anyway, I really enjoy the combat, the story, the cheesy voice acting. It is all part of the charm.
Not a perfect or masterful RPG in my opinion, but just like with FFXV I am enjoying it a lot because of the characters and the world.
Especially the Core-Blade system was such a surprise. It is such a good take on the "loot box system" that makes every new playthrough different.
But the game is not for every body.
"Especially the Core-Blade system was such a surprise. It is such a good take on the "loot box system" that makes every new playthrough different."
That is the worst thing about the game. One that probably heralds them putting MTs on it next time. Don't let them get away with that bullshit.
May I ask you why you don't like it?
I am 30-40 hours into the game and already have way more unique blades than I will ever need.
Sigils, ETHEC. Nah core system is the best thing
Alexander Chilton i have like 10 so far
That ending killed me, glad to see you doing good! Subscribed
I wish I would have seen this video about 3 days ago, my taste in RPG combat sounds a lot like yours and mine is being shipped as we speak through Amazon
I just want to point out that in your example of the waypoint system, you used quests that specifically don’t give you a waypoint, you are supposed to look at the objective and piece together what method of field skills you need to do to get that item, such as the confusion ivy being botany or such, also, you said you were sure you completed a quest...when it had two objectives...you can clearly see that when you see two boxes underneath the quest description and only one has a check mark...
This annoyed me so god damn much. It's like he wants to be spoon fed everything...
Yeah but he's not wrong about the way point system..I'm 115 hours in and have gotten confused more than once because of how bad it is. I love the game but nobody should defend the way point system.
Jeff Jenkins I don't think the waypoint system was that bad for me unless I had to go to a secret location
I absolutely love the game but i cant deny what he says the waypoint is awful. I dont mind searching for things but there are a few points where i just want to continue the main quest to get at a story aspect and you just cant seem to find the right route
I remember games that had no way points and you had to wonder through mazes for hours to find a switch that was often times timed. Yes I’m talking about old tomb raider games. I’d rather have no way point system than one that doesn’t work well.
The combat actually gets much more engaging after a while, I think the problem is you lack patience, which is OK, it is very understandable that you dont want to continue, but I am soo happy I have kept playing this, cuz the game gets better and better
Thats actually EXACTLY it.
I thought the same in the beginning, boring combat... But man when you get passed 20+ hours, holy crap I was wrong.
The battle system is AMAZING
The combat can be cruel in the wilds. When you thought you can just breeze 1 monster, others join in and kick your team’s butt.
Things excalate very quickly often. Those can drag on at times.
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Yeah that`s true, but at the same time that is where the luring mechenic comes to play
TheDekuSeed that works the best when you are in the mood of fighting, like clearing up the area so you can fight the boss in peace.
But when you’re just strolling or platforming around, that’s when luring is useless. You will be found before you can lure anything.
Very true
From watching my friend play Xenoblade Chronicles 1 I can sympathize with the "they seem to have a million hitpoints and take forever to kill" feeling. I played a lot of Xenoblade X on the Wii U and the combat system looks similar but (and maybe it was just my infinite overdrive build) battles lasted seconds and the arts and the combo system really made all that happen. The auto attacks were a nice bonus but hitting my 3x Melee attacks in a row was doing the heavy lifting.
Battles last seconds in 2 as well though
@@skylandersfan6954 oh. Hadn't seen it but that's great to know. That same friend is trying to decide between 2 and 3 now and I can't watch another grind fest like 1.
@@AnthonyDGreen Yeah, 2 and 3 add a lot of mechanics that make the game way faster
So I haven’t played this game yet, but is there a option to turn off auto battle??
None that we know of :)
*I Like your attitude*
Let’s show him a thing or three
Guys, I'm not really feeling it.
Our emotions are in tune!
*Stop Slacking off Zeke*
Yeah this game wasn’t made to appeal to everyone. It depends on what you’re into. I didn’t like the combat at first, now I think it’s ok. But I’ve put like 80 hours into this game and the story is what’s keeping me interested. If you can’t get behind that then you don’t have to force yourself. But personally I’m really feelin it
I think it's the gacha system that makes people hate the combat. Many get elements that don't have great synergy together so they struggle with blade combos, and if you struggle with those the game gonna suck since everything revolves around them.
9:29 literally just press Y and read the detailed objective lol. It's right there, written under the picture of the Quest. It's a fetch quest that tells you to find materials, which are those white dots on the ground. That's why there's no marker because those white dots are everywhere. Same if the quest is about crafting, or getting materials from salvaging...there's no waypoint because there are dedicated spots for those activities all over the map, greatly highlighted lol
9:51 On the bottom right it tells you ''Gather Confusion Ivy'' the NPC literally tells you that it grows near trees...so just look for white dots near trees. I mean...right? Need fish? White dots near water. Need flowers? Grassy Fields...etc etc.
I think the guy has grown too accustomed to Open Worlds ala Ubisoft where you have a minimap filled with markers and it tells you to press F to pay respects
I can definitely see many of your complaints even if they didn’t happen to me, but you went kinda off the mark with some of those things.
Like I get not liking Rex’s voice actor since he only gets genuinely good around 1/3 into the game, but the whole cast? And calling them bad British accents?? They’re welsh people using their normal accents most of the time, and most do a pretty great job at it too. Nia, Mythra, Poppi, Jin, Zeke, etc. I can’t understand hating all of them, especially since the European accents make the experience much more unique than a random other game
And the story is far from “surface level.” I can understand why you’d think that with not looking too deeply into it and only playing through chapter 4 or so, but saying that is like saying XBC 1 was a shallow story about revenge, or that Nier is a shallow story about loss. It has far more layers and nuances that make it a great story (tho 1 might be a bit better specifically in its plot beats). And the characters honestly surpass 1’s. Sure Shulk is way better than Rex, but too many characters in 1 are moved to the sidelines when their side plot is done (and some were a bit too one more imo). 2 makes all characters not only always relevant to the plot, but has more of them and gives all of them genuine depth. Even the nopon lmao
I’m glad that you recognize this game as good even tho you don’t prefer it, by even putting it on your must buy games each holiday season. I just wish you focused on the subjective flaws you didn’t like instead of calling regular accents and well done stories bad if that makes sense
If you auto attack in this game at all you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to switch to another blade once you're out of skills to use on your current so you'll never have to wait for a cooldown.
Or just flick your controller every second to get easy arts
Huh?
Also Lv 81 Red Gorilla is a tradition. It's a running joke. Although, they did make him way too fast in how he blitzes across the map in this game.
JP He killed me like 6 times in a row when I was level 11 because I did see him run up from behind me. lol
It took out all 3 of my skells in x lol
does not help that he block the path were you were meant to be going for a quest also does not help that i battlling a low level monster then along comes a level 70 bird thing that comes down and kills me good game though
Territorial Rotbart: Bane of our existence.
Honestly, I don't mind the super bosses in the areas, they make you actively keep aware of your surroundings.
I finally got around to playing this one, and I loved it, but I agree with a lot of the issues you had.
I actually liked the voice acting a lot, and wish more JRPGs used a wider range of accents (this one having various UK, Australian, American accents). I really liked the voice acting in Xenoblade 1 and Ni no Kuni too, because of the use of UK accents.
The combat does start off really slow, and tutorial isn't as helpful as it could have been, which means the average player is less likely to approach combat optimally. I'm pretty sure Xenoblade 1 battles were considerably faster.
I think I was lost for a few hours at the exact same part you were. A lot of areas have a lot of vertical complexity compared to Xenoblade 1, but 2's map doesn't do a good job of reflecting that. I wish it was a little more like the 3D maps in the Metroid Prime series. Additionally, the map is segmented, and doesn't show the next segment until you walk up to it, so I found it tricky to figure out where each part connects.
It certainly did get much more engaging 20+ hours in, but I think Xenoblade 1 is much better at hooking the audience early on, and setting up enigmas at a better pace. I think Xenoblade 2 relies a little too much on its fan service and sexualised characters for engagement, but if you're not super into the waifus, then you might have a harder time caring about some of the plot threads at the beginning.
Not sure if I liked it as much as Xenoblade 1, but the blade system was pretty cool (though I wish you could open 10 core crystals at the same time), and the side missions were really addictive after a while.
I actually don't think I fully understood the blade combo part of the battle system, but I'm too stubborn to look online for a better explanation than what the game gave me. You can evidently complete it without fully understanding the combat system, but it must slow down the combat.
I got it as one of my voucher games and I'm surprised how engaged I am by the story and art.
If you don’t like it that’s okay man. I don’t really like Mario 64 and so many people love the crap out of it. Don’t feel bad dude it’s just your opinion
Exactly, sometimes certain games you are suppose to like, just don't jell with you. It might be the game, it might be where you are when you play it, it might be your mood at the time, it could be so many things.
BeatEmUps just don’t be afraid to be negative or give a negative review we all have games we don’t like and it’s good to here a honest opinion I wasn’t sure about getting the game and investing the money you basically cleared up all the things I was afraid of with the game
Xcaliber The Wise wow that's amazing. You are the first person who didn't like Mario 64. Very interesting. I respect your opinion good sir
Xcaliber The Wise That's pretty edgy though
Right!
The story is not basic. You could never, never ever guess the ending, not even if you tried your hardest and that goes with alot of twists in this game.
Izurak Preach 🙌🏻
But like akhos said
Sometimes it's kind of a cliche
I fucking love it tho
That's every Xenoblade game
So what? I could tell you a story about a chicken crossing the road and have aliens come and eat him at the end. You'd never ever ever ever guess the end, but of course, that has NOTHING to do with whether or not the story is basic
The problçem with the story is that it turns offs o many people in the beginning, only starts to get good after charapter 3/4. When i was in char 7 forward it got so much better and it was like i was rushing to view its conclusion. also is very filosofical to one sense and you have to think about it to understand it. just viewing it wont do anything. also torna dlc is out and djin's arc is soo good. was already the best character ark in them main game (and nia's) and the dlc made it even better
ok here is the thing with auto attacking, when the swing is about to land tap the left stick and it will hit and cancel the animation you hit way way faster and build up your arts incredibly fast this way (especially when you running 2x desserts in your pouch). Which you spam, and later can animation cancel those as well to spam into chains. This is the crux of combat and it's way way different than DE and X, once you get used to it, you either love it or hate it. And yes unfortunately it does take time to ramp up to fast and smooth, but personally I feel it has more depth than the other two.
Enel on youtube has a great video explaining the combat in depth which helped me learn and enjoy it a lot. Now I can see how combat being complex and not straight forward can be seen as bad, but for me it's part of what makes games more fun for me.
New to the channel and had to come watch this one because u reference it so much in other videos. I finished the game and loved it, but OMG your pains are so relatable. Combat is so tedious and I got lost at the exact same forest you did and had to look up videos on how to progress. Hope you might pick it up again one day and talk about it again.
JRPGs are not for everyone. It's fine, nice video
But he likes some JRPGs...
Some. And maybe he did the made call to call this a non-review when it seems like already a review. :D
Thanks for being honest! As viewers the best thing we can hear is an honest opinion, not someone who just blindly follows others or shapes their opinion to make people like them.
But "honesty" on a game review is simply opinion. So yea he's being honest by giving you his opinion on the game. My opinion is the game is amazing, and I'm being honest too! Lol
Do you have specific reviewers in mind? So that we can unfollow them? Feeling someone's sincerity to review takes a special kind of skills.
I am playing at the moment, really trying, about 7 hrs in... the friend that wishes me to play it, is just doing my grinding work, so yeah... hope that helps :)
I'm about 50 hours in at the moment. My opinion won't be completely valid because I'm only around halfway through (I play games slowly lmao) but I used to HATE the combat. It was too different and difficult for me to understand, but the beautiful world, characters, storyline and soundtrack kept me going. I got to around the 25 hour mark and things became so much easier to understand and now I honestly really ENJOY the combat! Definitely takes a bit of getting used to, but once you keep going it gets so much better!
I can agree with the voice acting for the most part though 😭 As well as the same voice clips used over and over
it really needs more time. than 15 hours. it won't ever turn into a frantic button masher but you're gonna have so much to do and manage at once, that it won't feel slow by any means. initially i thought the same as you do. i gave it a chance. now i'm 157 hours in and can't get enough. it will be the first game where i purchase the season pass. it's ok though. not everyone always likes the same things... i don't really care a lot about mario and zelda. as funny as it sounds. i finished neither one. i mean they're cool. but didn't "capture" me like xenoblade did. everything's relative. lucky as we are, we can choose.... we got more games than we can ever play.
It isn't a button-masher because it's a strategy game. The battles are incredibly fast-paced and intense once you get all the mechanics down, but in the end it's a strategy game. This isn't something like Smash Bros where you win based on mashing the right button combos at the right time. You win by thinking far ahead in the battle and strategizing what moves to do next.
15 hours is plenty fanboy
I fully respect your opinion. I mean, different strokes for different folks, ya know? People have different tastes. But, I'd recommend you change the title of the video, because it is a little misleading. Saying "refuse" makes it seem like Nintendo is doing some dumb business practice that you disagree with or you don't want to review it because you are going on strike against something in the game you disagree with or something. Replacing "REFUSE" (in all caps, it really just makes it worse) with "don't want to" or something that is less misleading compared to your opinion.
That's what you took away from the title? I just assumed he was gonna talk about not having finished it yet, and that he was going to take his time before reviewing.
Joey Greathouse in a day in which everybody clickbaits and people have been upset over the female designs in xenoblade, i expected a video complaining about the game being anti-female.
I totally agree whit your opinion. The title of the video is wrong, some people can misunderstand.
Dustin Totten thats the thing. Why do you think people click youtube videos? From the title and thumbnail. I watch the video always before, but there are a lot of people that will assume the game has offended him in some way. Its so simple to change REFUSE in all caps with a disgusted face in the thumbnail to just a "will not" or "don't want to." It's clickbait and ultimately leaves the viewer feeling somewhat confused. 101 people agree with me on this.
The title isn’t misleading at all. He refused to review the game, then explained why he refused. Whatever you guessed he was going to say just based on the title is on you, not him.
You made want to try the game, and i'm liking so far. Rex's voice makes me chuckle often and adds charm to the game i think.
Dude I enjoy the game from the chapter 1. It is very complicated not for beginner of rpg.
Dude if your still on Gormott after 15 Hours your doing something wrong. You did not play 15 Hours without at least going to the next location
Never mind saw he went to Uraya my bad
In other words: _"I'm a very childish human who's parents didn't raise well enough for me to be able to understand that the things that I like won't be liked by everyone and neither of us are terrible stupid people"_
Got it.
@@davecarsley8773 ah never mind you just spam any comment you see with this exact same message when someone says something bad, you should learn to follow what you preach
Dave Carsley in other words: _”I don’t have anything better to do than copy and paste the same meaningless drivel in order to make people feel bad about defending a game they like”_
Got it.
He is fighting morag at level 28/29 in mor adain at 4:32
Reason to buy:
Story 1.5%
Combat 0.5%
Pyra’s Breast 98%.
Wolf Dog pyra's metal breast?
Just like fire emblem fates only virgins otakus like these games. Saddly
Carlos Cavazos
... dude
this is an obvious joke
@@carloscavazos8235 r/whoosh
It's currently NNN, I have to wait until December to continue playing the game.
Martha breasts 👌
I got the game yesterday and it's my first time playing a JRPG. I was really uncertain, however I actually bought th egame because of the combat system, it looked interesting. At first I found the game slow in all aspects pretty much, but after 2.5 hours when I reached Gormott it started to get way more fun.
I find the story and characters alright, it's enough for to be invested in them and their journey.
I don't know how long the game is, I'm about 11 hours in now and I think it's fun!
Link dude, with the main game and dlc, you can easily get 70-100 hours in, depending how many quests and items you get etc I have about 110 hours in the game now so
I Best it at 87 hours
I beat Xenoblade 2 with 50 hours lmao. I ignored side quests, merc missions, and trying to farm for rare blades. Is that why ya'lls time is so damn high?
I've watched this video about twice in the past. Once when it came out, and second time a few weeks later as a way to decide whether its for me or not. That.. was a mistake on my part, as i got the game right before the torna dlc came out and i enjoy the heck out of it, with 219 hours in (waiting for arts becomes nonexistent after you pick the right perks/right blades) soo yeah, 9 months later and I'm starting new game plus haha
Oh THAT story quest is the one you got stuck in... that one was so difficult to find for me too, I really tried everything I could think of, and traveled the length of the titan multiple times until I figured out there’s a giant tunnel in its spine. It took me 5 hours to figure out (might be exaggerating) but that one almost made me quit too... honestly the combat takes a while to get good. I don’t think you were there yet... though it’s crazy how slow of a start the game has... still my 3rd favorite RPG on the switch (after tales of vesperia, and project octopath). Once you learn how to use the elemental orbs, and elemental break you can really start to set things up to rake in the damage. (I think I did 181000 damage using 3 elemental breaks on the final boss)
I don't really think you should comment on the quality of the story after only 10-15 hours
Agreed. This game's story has a VERY slow start but it gets better and better later on.
Except for the fact that he clarified that he only played it for 15 hours so he's being open about that. If I can't get into a game in 15 hours then that's not a game for me. These are just his opinions for this time frame.
15 hours is a long time to most people.
You say that like 15 hours isn't a long time. Shouldn't a story get you invested by then? I like the story, but I can understand why he doesn't.
15 hrs is not a long time for a game. Some TV shows take that long to get going and interesting. While others may turn it off they’re missing out. It’s their loss in the end.
Im confused on why not? Guess I should shut up and watch
Edit: after watching i see your points. No hate here
Why do people do this... JUST WATCH THE VIDEO
BlueBitProductions because people are too hurried by their own doing and aren’t willing to slow down and absorb someone’s opinion before making their own more of a priority.
I got the game a week ago today, beat it today, it’s my second Xenoblade game after 3 (I’ve played through 3, started future redeemed, then get two and beat it) I loved the gameplay, loved the voice acting (though I am myself British so, idk if that makes it biased) and don’t really have any complaints about the game at all
Except those things that require certain skills and stuff, like needing to jump up somewhere and requiring a Lv. 5 wind and something else, 30 mins after I had decided I had so many rare blades that I honestly could just get rid of all my common blades, so I had to grind up a bunch of core crystals and stuff like that. Wish those were either removed, or dispersed across the whole game, slowly getting more difficult
@@disneygamerdonut214 Yeah nobody liked the skill checks lol.
This helped!
I'm not a big fan of waiting to hit buttons that aren't really needed.
It looks great though so maybe Ill just watch the cut scenes.
Thank you
Running into that giant gorilla in this game that's level 81, I'm terrified of it, like I get that same feeling that I get in a horror game.
That’s the Territorial Rotbart, I’m playing xbc1 and I get that same feeling.
When I was younger when I was playing wow that stupid level 1000 giant thing I think in the beginning of the worgen section gave me PTSD
This is a week late, but I figure I'd type it out anyway, even though there are likely a ton of people before me who have done the same. I respect your opinion, and I have some agreements and some refutations.
So, I'll start with my agreements. The combat can be pretty slow. Compared to the other Xenoblade games, this game pads the enemies with HP hardcore, and it made it pretty difficult for me to stomach the first 10-15 hours or so as well. However, I knew that I had played the previous entries and enjoyed the combat, so I also knew I'd have some appreciation for the combat in this game. That being said, combat in this game is pretty similar to a lot of rpgs and jrpgs. You tend to have very little at your disposal at the beginning of the game, but the system opens up as you progress. Unfortunately, being only 10-15 hours into the game, you had little in the way of combat, as I did during that time. Meanwhile, it's important to note that the game made things into HP sponges *because* of their combat system. If you understand it from the get-go, you're rewarded.
Another somewhat agreement is that the voice acting was super bad at the beginning. That line where Rex yells while bursting through the floor made me cringe so hard, but as the game continues, the VAs settle into their roles, at least in my opinion.
Next, enemies. This is a pretty big argument against Xenoblade games and I totally get it, but the Territorial Rotbart is a relic from Xenoblade 1, and you should have seen (or not seen) that guy with the draw distance of the Wii console. However, for me, the enemy system has always been a strength of the Xenoblade series. Having enemy levels increase by area as the game progresses is unrealistic in a legitimate world, which is something Monolith strives to create. Furthermore, enemies serve more purpose than simply "experience," as you made it sound. Yes, I would never kill a baby Armu to grind exp, but I would potentially farm one if I got a Rare Blade that wanted me to kill them for affinity, or if there was a quest that asked me to, or if there was a specific drop (accessory, chip, or aux core).
Important things that I've noted. This is probably my least favorite Xenoblade game thus far. In the previous entries, I was more than happy to do some quality exploration, but this game doesn't reward nor encourage exploration. Same with sidequests. I beat the main story and only did maybe 3 sidequests. Now, I admit this is not the case for many people, but I also feel that I've explored and sidequested myself out after my 100% run of Xenoblade Chronicles, my 99% of Xenoblade Chronicles X, and all the time I spent exploring in Black Desert Online and Breath of the Wild.
My main reason for writing this is to hopefully give you a reason to continue the game. I personally feel the cutscenes got better and as the combat opened up more, I enjoyed it. I just feel the beginning of the game was a slog and the rest of the game shouldn't be avoided based on it.
Chapter 2 was worst chapter. After that, the game is much better. And I think that is where he got stuck. :/ I think I moved very fast from chapter 5 to 6, But then again, this is a reviewer who doesn't want to spend 100+ hours on a game like most of us normies.
While I can understand some of his complaints I honestly don’t believe he feels he has the time or willing to put the required hours into this game to fairly review it.
The main thing missing from the tutorial system is the arts recharge pouch items, makes a massive difference in the combat.
The thing is, he probably doesn't talk to people which is fatal in JRPGs. There are like 2000 NPCs telling you all about the advantages of item pouches, and other mechanics. The system literally forces you to interact with item pouches in order to level your blade's skill tree. Which he didn't do because he quit after 15h in the tutorial world, so he didn't even got to see that happening.
The combat is hit or miss depending on how much info you have. Unfortunately the game does a terrible job at explaining it. I had to watch a 30m video fully dedicated to the system in order to get all the little things I can do. The auto-attack can be double cancelled for example. If you played the game you already know about the normal cancelling, but there's another move you can do.
At the first animation hit, you tap the directional stick which cancels the animation and restarts it. This means that you can chain first hits in a row very fast that make your Arts build thrice as fast. This gives you a great control over the Blade Combos timing and the number of them that you can do in a single fight. Coupled with the break-topple etc system and chain attacks, it vaporizes things.
Yo this is my favorite game of all time
But i respect ur opinion
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God I love this damn game. It has more heart then anything I’ve played this gen. Exception being Persona 5. Also the English translation is fantastic, I don’t get that criticism.
Same
Hope your taste in women isn't as bad as your taste in games.
@@coolguy48457 that's fake news
Respect you putting your opinion out there.
But I will say, 15 hours in this game is NOTHING. You're still doing tutorials at 15 hours in
You just described the worst game in world history.
The best games don't NEED tutorials.
Joey Greathouse Ah, yes. Because tutorials reveal how bad a game is, not how complex it is. XC2 should take its unique, complex systems and throw them all at the player at once without explanation. I'm sure that wouldn't leave anyone feeling completely overwhelmed or frustrated.
That's not quite true, Joey. The best games are ones where the tutorials aren't overwhelming. I know it's passed around in game design circles that you should eliminate a tutorial when at all possible, but tell me -- can you really play a strategy game like Civilization 5 without a tutorial? No, you'll be hopelessly overwhelmed. Not all games can eliminate tutorials. Often times, for games as complex as Xenoblade Chronicles 2, you'll be drowning in tutorials right from the start so it can throw all its mechanics at you. However, Chronicles 2 drip-feeds each of its mechanics to you at a very nice pace. You're given a handful of things to worry about and then ample time to experiment and play around with them before you're given the next mechanic. That's why there's tutorials 15 hours in. Because the game is slowly adding interesting complexity in a way that's not at all overwhelming, and giving ample time to play around with every new thing you learn. It's an example of tutorials done right.
I think his point is that at 15 hours in you shouldn't need to be still on tutorials. You should have been fully engaged and additional content should be easily integrated into the existing 14 hours of learning you have done.
Plenty of games add elements and provide information on how to execute them later in the game, but the difference is it doesn't feel like you still haven't reached a basic level of understanding.
agreed, at 15 hours I wasn't liking the game either, now I'm 70 hours and can't put it down
i had trouble with difficulty spikes and getting lost on some areas. Spent hours trying to level up just to get killed by one hit.
I had to switch to the Japanese VO right after the first boss. The English VO seriously grated my eardrums while simultaneously not meshing well with the cutscene animations.
Other than that, I'm enjoying myself so far.
I completed the game after 54-ish hours and I would say after 20 hours or so I suddenly got obsessed with the game. I do understand the problem you have though it isn't really an easy game to get into. It is the type of game you either fucking love or just think it's really meh.
PrevailingFilth Or really meh-meh-meh ;-)
no need to apologize so much about having a contrarian opinion. If people get heated, that's on them. All that matters is that if you give an opinion, just make it on facts and explain your stance. That's the whole point of a review. Reviews aren't meant to just cater to people that like the game and not offend people. I don't agree with some of your issues with the gameplay, but it doesn't sound like certain types of RPGs are for you. Xenoblade is a series with complex mechanics to learn, and it has an extended amount of learning. It's not like an old Final Fantasy where it has less mechanics in the mix due to turn-based.
XD Though Reviews shouldn't actually be based on opinions, they should be unbiased or the review holds no weight.
He said the combat was too easy though where any other gameplay features were unneeded anyway. It seems that the more there is to learn would be pointless to learn or just for show. I still prefer reflex-based combat (crossair or input-action, my own vocab).
Ok, I appreciate and partially agree with your opinion, but here's what you're missing. It's true that when fighting lower leveled opponents the auto-attack feature will finish them off for you by itself, but enemies that are closer to your level will take a lot of timing and precision to kill. This game isn't about fast reflexes, it's about patience and knowing when to strike. This video was informative to those of you who haven't played the game, but it was also a tad flawed and (like everything) biased. The enemies he was fighting in this video were all a lower level than he was, and that soldier part is very early on in the game. Right now, I'm at chapter 4 of the game with over 24 hours of gameplay and the tutorials just started slowing down in chapter 3. If anything, this just goes to show you how complex the system actually is. BeatEmUps only showed gameplay up to chapter 3 where a lot of the mechanics change. This game is not a classic reflex-based competitive shooter and should not be treated as one. This game is a tactics and strategy role play game with a unique battle system. The problem with this video is that it didn't explain how complicated the battle system is. Auto attacks charge your active abilities which let you activate a final ability that has up to four levels of charge. your active abilities can be upgraded to have faster cooldown times and damage, and if timed correctly, can combo with other active abilities from you and/or your team. There are also plenty of different items that can be equipped or consumed that grant interesting bonuses. some consumables even charge your active abilities for you so you get them even faster! Most active abilities have special mechanics that let them do more damage or have a special combo effect, and some of them will change as you progress in the game. If you don't like the slow pace of the auto attacks, you can EASILY resonate with a new core crystal and get another blade that suits your style better. Each one comes with their own set of active abilities, and you can switch between blades mid battle to take advantage of multiple effects. When fighting an equally leveled opponent in the mid to late game, you have to be actively participating in the battle by observing the current flow of the battle and waiting for opportunities to strike. A lot of moves may seem really weak at first, but if you know what you're doing and wait for just the right moment when you use abilities to break/topple/launch/etc your opponent you can strike with your special moves to really hit hard. Currently, I'm ranked as a diamond player in Overwatch, and have sever hundred levels in that game. I'm just saying that as a field of reference. I love competitive shooting games, but I don't think that's where anyone needs to draw the line. If you want to limit yourself to that category, be my guest. I won't try to stop you. I'm only pleading to you and to people with opinions like you to take everything you see and hear with a pinch of salt. Not everything is how others describe it to you. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of things that I don't like about this game, and you can hear a lot of them from this guy if you watch his video again, but there are a LOT of things I LOVE about it, and I'd hate it for anyone to miss out on this game without giving it a proper chance. Honestly though, the voice acting really is TERRIBLE. I don't know who thought it would be a good idea to make Rex's voice sound like a bootleg shulk ripoff, but they need to reconsider their actions and atone. Thank GOD Japanese is a language. Well.. I guess that's all I wanted to say.. Thanks for sticking around long enough to read all of this I guess.
People are getting heated because he gives an Opinion on less than 5% of the game.
Its like me read a book until chapter 1, and saying it sucks...
Basically, the only way he couldve been right, is to NOT make this video. Because theres to many false info.
Good point, I had dislike because I didn't agree with him at first. I changed it just because of your comment. It's a great game, and but I totally don't agree with his opinion. Besides his point on annoying voices during battle, same problem as last time. Only so many times I can hear those combat lines.
15 hours in? What have you been doing all the time? Where you are is like 5 hours into the game
FullMetalCowMoo Dude, calm down.
@@FullMetalCowMoo How are you in here complaining about judging someone for their capabilities, then trying to use "autistic" as some sort of insult?
I think he used examples from slightly earlier in the game
he spent more time edit this vid than playing
I know you refuse to play this game, and I respect that.... but the way point system isnt messed up. All the ones you cant find the objective for are either collect quests or salvage quests. Aka: go to salvage points and collection points to find the items you need for the quests. Mechanical items are always salvage and everything else can be found at the shovel points.
Also I understand about the high level monsters thing, but it was part of Xenoblade 1 as well, and it is part of the exploration learning the monster's movement patterns and territories so you can pass them. Admittedly Territorial Rothbart is in the worst place because you need to be aware of where he is and how to avoid him. Many of your quests in gormott involve navigating past him. The next few Titans you go to tend to be much better, (besides one section of MorArdain where you gotta just run for your life because they're all level 80-- but I also cheese my way past that gate every time sooooo)
For the getting lost thing, I reccomend the skip travel button. It helps you with learning the major locations on the map. (Not that I think you'll pick this up after over a year, but still- hoping anyone else that may feel the same as you may take a chance by following this advice)
If you're fighting enemies around your level or higher, you cannot auto attack and win. You must be going after lower enemies, it's the only way auto attacking would get you anywhere.
And yeah, I think everybody turned the combat voices off, that part is terrible.
How can you complain about combat taking too long while you're sitting there auto attacking. That's not a valid argument. Use your arts, and your specials and enemies will melt.
exactly hes complaining about it taking long even though he isn't even playing the game. xD
Good point
"that terrible British accent"
You mean the accent of the actual British people who voice the characters? Every character that has a British accent _is_ British. Everyone who has a Scottish accent _is_ Scottish. And the American sounding characters? You guessed it: Americans.
There _is_ a problem and that's the timing within conversations. I guess it's a result of the translation and not changing the timing between when one character's speaking ends and another one begins. So you get awkward pauses where there really shouldn't be any but that's not been a deal-breaker for me.
krimhorn Yeah that is the problem. They are American, English or Scottish and *NOT* Japanese
Are you dumb Yuri? Turn the damn voices to Japanese if you want it. No one's stopping you -_-
That's not my point. My point is most of the time, animes or overly-weeb things work really porly when dubbed, because they either come across as emotionless (Like in this case, most of the times) or overacting, and bad acting in general like in the old 4kids dubs. The only way I could really see it work is if they re-wrote the dialouge entierly instead of adapting the original and trying to imitate how the original voices sounded, like Funimation or an Abridged Series would do.
Also, I'm pretty sure there's not an option for the Japanese voices, you need a patch to do that.
Have you played the game -.- In most areas, the dub is perfectly fine. Just Rex's VA struggles to yell or be aggressive but besides that most of the VA is fine. It's nowhere near emotionless.
I played a bit with the sub and the quality for both is fine.
Judging by your profile pic you're a weeb which is fine, but you can't just bash a dub with no other reason than "sub is better omegalul"
Holy sh*t a video criticizing XC2 without spending 4 hours talking about non-existent fanservice!!
This is truly a time to be alive.
I don't know if its because I've played the first one before this one but omg i have fallen in love so far and im only 15 hours in, the combat has got its hooks in me even if the enemies do take a little too long to kill and the story is very intriguing, just waiting for it to kick into high gear