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- čas přidán 16. 09. 2014
- Benicio Del Toro and James Caan square off for the first time to assess each other. I have edited this scene to remove the other scenes and highlight the scenes between Del Torro and Caan as a classic example of scene subtext.
I left a couple other moments, without the two actors, connected to this for a little context.
I do not own this property (but I do own a DVD of it), and I am only highlighting a clip from the film Way of the Gun. If you have not seen it I recommend purchasing it where ever you can find it these days (or renting it if that's something available to you).
Realest scene in the entire flick.
"They want to be criminals more than they want to commit crime"
That quote is so relevant today
Just here to pay respects to the man on the day of his passing.
The best scene in a movie I'm really fond of.
"Until that day."
Until That Day
Indeed. RIP
This is his best film.
@@flightofthebumblebee9529Sonny Corleone was DEFINITELY his best role He was good in this tho👍🏾
“1 is backfire, 3 is gunplay” oh he means business.
One of my favorite lines of all time in a movie.
@@dugnicemeaning ?
@@cowpoke2133 Sarno says this because Longbaugh just fired a single warning shot. Sarno is telling him that the first shot is backfire, ie. excusable and not worth reacting to. But if another shot was fired from Longbaugh, Sarno would have to react by firing his own gun, hence three is gunplay.
@@mattdamon9326 ahhh ok thanks for explanation, I saw the movie the other day and I thought it was a very good movie like the little details. I wish they made more similar style movie.On that day I saw last man standing by Bruce Willis and this movie and that was a good movie night. You got any similar recommendations?
RIP to the legend. You can tell his character is a real professional in this movie. He's been around. Beware the old man in a profession where men usually die young
That's for sure. 👍☮️
"We're survivors"
James Caan is Mike Ehrmantraut's older brother
I said tons of times that Mike had to of been based off Joe Sarno.
They respect each other but also know they will see each other sooner than later with guns drawn.
To bad Benicio couldn't have worked out a deal with Caan..... but you know, he is a bagman.
It really is just like heat. Two people sitting doing as humans, but both respecting the other. It’s like
You do what you do. I do what I do. But we can be professionals and gentleman about it. Shows the humane side of it. Neither is happy about how they ended up in their respected profession and probably have a lot of regrets. But they can still sit down and have a smoke and coffee and shake one another’s hand. In a cut throat lifestyle respect and honour is everything.
Rest in peace, Jimmy.
'Until that day...' 🙏
" not a brains kinda operation " , my favorite line in this movie . Favorite scene ? the opening scene . KTFO .
I promise you a day of reckoning you won't live long enough to never forget. Not in this scene but another epic James Caan quote. Great movie.
This movie hits on all cylinders for its entire run time.
James Caan, was absolutely amazing as usual. RIP
Great scene with two of Hollywood’s all time great actors.
'until that day' love these scenes with Del Toro and Caen - brilliant movie , seriously underrated.
I still use that to this day. Great movie
RIP James Caan
This was the first film I saw him in and he was amazing.
This is such an underrated movie. It's full of subtext and subtleties. It never outright tells you what's going on, it just drops hints and lets you figure it out for yourself.
Take the scene where they come up with the kidnapping plan. Other movies would have 1 of the characters telling the other all about their idea and how they plan on carrying it out. This one just shows them briefly exchange a knowing look while they overhear someone in the background talking about their soon-to-be target.
MrClickity Sure is! Great lines from the start and great gun battles!
MrClickity this is in my all time top 5 favourite movies.. I don’t know how people weren’t into it
It's an ok movie, I'd never call it underrated, it wasn't that great.
@@danielstack4158 I do disagree with you. Love.
I totally agree!
I couldn't see the man's face properly because of the small screen on this phone but that voice let me know that James Caan is in the house. What a great actor. He rarely disappoints.
"...fuckin sign on his head reading why bother..." there's something about the way he said this good god...
explain
This is one of the best dialogues along with the movie heat with deniro and pacino
"I wish I could... but, ah-"
"Yeah. I'm a bagman."
"You are a bagman."
Love the way Del Toro says this.
Thank you!!! James Caan should have gotten an Oscar for this movie.
Completely agree
Hella of an actor
It was this movie that made me realize that James Caan was one of the GREAT actors of his generation.
This movie was James Caan coaching Benicio del Toro on how to play the tough-guy role.
Benicio del Toro was better in it. Watch it again. The way he moves the way he talks and the things he knows that I bet you didn't even pick up in the movie.
James was the man in this movie. Classic movie man, well acted by everyone.
My favorite line in this movie is "This is not a brains kind of operation"
Incredible acting when he flashes the picture....
He says without saying.... the million dollar offer is real, because she's my daughter....really think I'd risk the double cross when you've got her.
Del Toro kills it with the tone of his response being.... you know this isn't personal, but a million ain't enough, and you just might be playing me out here.
So many people dont even realize this, that its sad.
It's subtle, unfortunately we are over explained everything now in movies
@@wtfbbqpwnzercopter yeah, IIRC no one explicitly says that they are related throughout the entire film, it's all implied non-verbally.
I don’t even think it’s the million that’s not enough. I think he just doesn’t know if that’s really his daughter.
@@ryanm9105 he also had told him about his daughter putting something together for him. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just simply disagree.
he showed him a picture and as they said later in the movie....you can tell someone's family just by lookin at um.
The mill was likely real and they'd have gotten outta the parking lot with it at least....but they were trying to get rich, not a few year bag.
One of my favorite scenes in any movie.
One of the best scenes ever in film. So much beneath the surface. Sarno actually liked him and was trying to tell him get out while you are young but it was already way too late for Parker and Longbough
It's great because you can tell Sarno does genuinely see some of himself in Longbaugh - but at the same time, he's still willing to make that final offer in order to possibly trick him into an ambush. Even with all the emotion involved, Sarno remains a stone cold professional above all else. It really drives home the point that you need to be emotionally resilient as well as physically tough in order to survive in that game as long as Joe has.
@@CopiousDoinksLLC He also saves both their lives at the end. He has a clear kill shot on both of them and spares them.
@@AuspexAO I think he did that out of respect because they protected his daughter. They likely died by blood loss
@@markbranham6365Say what?
@@markbranham6365 they are dead from their wounds. Sarno knew they wouldn't survive so he just left them like that, and he didnt have the authority to spare them. They fucked with the mafia big time, doubt they would allow a pass. The greatest fiction in this movie is they were not tortured to death.
James Caan talking to Juliet Lewis’s real Dad at the end of the scene
This entire movie was fucking amazing.
Even now in 2022 it boggles my mind how people sleep on this masterpiece
*"You sure you don't wanna take a ride with me?"*
*"Wish I could, but ah, you're a bagman"*
*"I Am a bag man"*
One's backfire......3's gun play
A Quick Study Of Nuance @4:07 For the most part, aside from a scratch on the nose Del Toro remains still in comparison to Caan in constant subtle motion with his gestures and upper body movement. It’s when he shows the picture to Del Toro that Del Toro is shook and begins to have motion while Caan aside from tucking away the wallet now is the steady one. Brilliant acting and brilliant directing.
It’s such a shame Chris McQuarrie so vehemently distances himself from the movie to the point of outright disowning it.
He’s actually very proud of it. He just thinks it’s rough in parts and needs another pass. But he said he’s very happy so many people responded so strongly to it. Stephen King said it was one of the best pictures of the year in Entertainment Weekly
A good story told well, great cast and solid production. All things almost lost now in cinema.
This is the kind of movie that everyone should see but never do. The Way of the Gun is a classic and showcased the talent of the director Christopher McQuarrie, who would go on to direct Mission Impossible 5-8.
He never topped this offbeat low budget movie
The thing is , and Toro's character knows it...Caan's character is an old man in a line of work with very low life expectancy
Subtle film. Tells him his daughter is going to take care of him and them shows him a photo of Robin his daughter from the wallet without letting the audience know.
I was wondering about that, is that what actually happened?
holy shit i really like this movie and never put that together.
@@isaachaze1 It was the mutual respect they had for each other in their profession, one confessed and hoped there would be an easier conclusion. But they both know the nature of a bagman, and respected the decision not to give in. But I feel it had more of an influence on how they would treat Robin if everything went south. Which, they respected their position for the crime, not being a criminal. More of an honor among thieves deal, those who respected the profession, not the act.
The film never outright says or shows that Robin is his daughter but the clues are there. He mentions how his daughter is working on something so he can retire from that life of crime. He then shows a picture of him with her but the audience doesn't see it. Then at the end when she's giving birth he walks in and she mouths "hi dad".
This film deserved a series of films
Watching Sarah Silverman getting punch in the face after that perfect depiction of how a woman behaves when she believes she is helping her boyfriend defend his own property.
Did you make the deal?? No, but I got free coffee!
Very underrated movie. Hardly comes up in conversation and it should.
Seeing joe talk about putting cash away and saving it for a better life got me thinking about my own life not exactly the bagman here but I'am a "bagman" somewhere else I keep on hoping for a better tomorrow a chance to really do some good but these days nothing but angry feelings and angrier texts sometimes I try to act suicidal but in truth I'm just scared of this world in fact 2018 is really getting to darker places as of now still there's light in the end of tunnel so trying to keep hope alive if that.
Happened to spot your comment. Care to tell me a little more about your situation. This is also a rough year for me. Nothing like telling stories to a strange person in the internet.
@1965lo you can say that again. Mob attacking anyone they can and the police stand by and let it happen. Then prosecute the victims. The world is becoming more and more inverted with every week that goes by.
How do you feel now ? God bless you homie and I hope you manifest better days
I love the way Del Toro's character clearly knows that James Caan's character is dangerous even without a gun - he's smart enough to know that the other guy is better. But I also like that Caan's character recognises that Del Toro is a cut above the common hoodlum as well, and he may be beter, but not by enough that he can be glib either.
Honestly, now he’s gone. And this was the quintessential James Caan performance. A role he seemed born for. More even so than Brian Piccadilly. Which is really saying something….
It’s okay, Jimmy… We won’t forget you…
"yeah.......I'm a bag man" "you are a bag man....."
"One's backfire. Three is gunplay." Ok, for the ignoramous here, does he mean that one gunshot can be mistaken for a car backfiring?
One is backfire three is gunplay .
The single most powerful scene in this movie... Almost mystical...
The scene where Sarah Silverman gets repeatedly punched in the face was pretty good, too.
@@rayarters8518 Yeah she was part of the Bagman scene I think.
@@LandersWorkshop here's the scene with Sarah Silverman. It's the one where she starts mouthing off, you know, like she does in her comedy sketches. It's so much more satisfying seeing it now, umpteen years later, knowing how obnoxious she is in real life.
czcams.com/video/9w6UUkkOmgo/video.html
I’m so dumb, I just watched this movie, came back to rewatch this scene and FINALLY clued in to who his daughter was
@1:00 "Plenty more where I came from." You know your in a hard line of work when you talk like that.
Thank you for this!
james caan stole the show
Love that Geoffrey Lewis played her father in a movie.
He didn't. Geoffrey is her real life father but in this film, Sarno is her father.
#RIP James Caan.
"Until that day..." 😪
this movie is crazy.a bomb.
Rip to the legend🙏had to stop by one of my favorite movies and pay my condolences may you rest high in heaven with god
This movie is so freakin good
Hey remember when movies had character development? Great movie
Not just crime,, it’s the way of the world.
Very cool
There is no such moment in my life
yet
F****** intense!!
James Caan is the real Don - End of tweet
Love this seen. I think the money that Sarno offered Longbough would have been Robin his daughters cut for carrying the baby. Sarno would have gladly given them the money to make sure his daughter wasn't harmed and that his boss wouldn't have had to pay the kidnappers anything. That is my take on the seen maybe I am wrong but I think that is why a million was offered.
RIP James Caan in my favourite movie of all time
I bet the movie was originally called bagman
Like u toro
I'll remember your essence.
McQuarrie had stated on his commentary track in the DVD that he showed him a $1 million dollar bill in his wallet though they don't really exist
No he didnt lol. The DVD commentary says it was a picture of him with Robin, his daughter. I love how the film never originally shows us that he is the father of Robin yet many clues are there.
@@flightofthebumblebee9529 Yeah but he also stated that he showed him the bill
RIP to the GOAT!
James is an icon
How long over 2 years still won't dont care any more just know that am happy being me
I've been the bag man
Rest In Peace
Not seen this movie in years. Amazing. Also not sure on the usual movie theory this is prequel to Del toro's usual suspects character 🙄
RIP James Caan
Until that day, then...
❤
fucking Abner!! yes!!
if quarantino made a move..........
Yeah this movie was definitely shooting for that market.
Excuse me for asking a question but what is a bag man?
Yeah he was trying to run them they were messing with the wrong family. They didn't listen
I'm trying to understand the point being made in the use of the word 'adjudicate'. The bag man uses the word 'adjudication' unironically and with emphasis in an earlier scene as he is talking to the two bodyguards at the police station and explaining what it is he does for his/their employer, "the fine art of adjudication". Then in this clip the same guy -- the bag man -- seems to claim that use of the word 'adjudicate' is something lazy or unserious cops do. Moreover when he uses the word in this clip, Del Toro pauses and leans in and says 'adjudicate?' as a question, really calling attention to the word again. It's as if the director really wanted to emphasize the word 'adjudicate' which makes me think it's somehow thematic, but honestly I don't see how. What does all this mean? Are they just giving us some character development, showing us that the bag man used to be a cop instead of telling us? Or is there more to it?
EDIT: Earlier scene here: czcams.com/video/sWUpwa4TGFI/video.html
What IS the subtext in this scene? Which scene exactly? The thing about Sarno's daughter?
thats the bag mans daughter they got hostage, he shows her the photo in his wallet. oh and she had the kid with the dr. they never fuking tell u this in the movie but daym it makes it even better
iconocast exactly that, this is one of my favorites because it feels so real and doesn't beat you over the head with everything. until that day!
Whoaaa, you're right!
That's what he means by "She's putting something together for me." That's why she did what she did at the clinic. To pin it on those two patsy bodyguards.
Joe asks Benicio Del Toro who the brains of the operation is - Benicio replies that there isn't one. Meanwhile, Joe knows full well that his daughter is the brains of THEIR operation. Which team makes it out at the end of the movie? Joe and his daughter.
I think that's his daughter they've got, but they can't go with the offer they are offering as it's too risky.
@@SwitcherooU No, his daughter was gonna get rich for being a surrogate and help her dad,doesnt seem she was involved in a Scam,seems unlikely she would risk her babys life.
Rip
How'd Sarno know where they were?
He's a bagman.
The guy from Every Which Way But Loose, Juliettel Lewis's dad in real life, Geoffrey Lewis is following the dr, dr leads him to the kidnappers, he works for Sarnow
he followed dr painter when they called him for help.
ZOIDBERG
The weirdest scene in a weird movie. I'd fault the movie for an inconsistent tone if each scene wasn't so fascinating.
It’s 2 guys kidnapping a pregnant chick for money. How’s that weird?
it is an uneven movie
This movie has some good concepts but it's a bit too on the nose, too data based. Even the gunplay, it's good concepts,based on real stuff, but too often too much of it. Like both sides are playing a turn based RPG,not smooth enough
One is backfire three is gunplay .