All About The Aegis
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- Embark on an immersive journey into the heart of the American Aegis Combat System in this captivating video exploration. Delve into the evolution and intricacies of this advanced defense marvel, uncovering its fusion of radar technology, missile defense, and unparalleled command systems. Demonstrating its precision and adaptability in safeguarding naval assets. Unlike the ominous portrayal of Skynet, the Aegis system stands as a beacon of controlled and defensive power, illustrating its pivotal role in securing national defense against evolving threats while exemplifying responsible and precise military technology.
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Just a note, The AWACS plane can also tie into Aegis to extend the Aegis and it's own radar.
Zumwalt ships, there were only three built , not five.
😮
Mmm sensor fusion
The LINK system is so wonderful for networking our sides view of the battlefield.
Not AWACS, AWACS is air force. E-2C Hawkeye.
The naval historian Drachinifel often refers to "American levels of firepower" when it comes to ships. There's a great history of CV6 Enterprise where the narrator talks about when she was given a refit after spending a year in combat in the Pacific, and he says "A question was asked. How many guns do you want on this thing? To which the answer was Yes." So it's not surprising that the Navy would decide that "we need more firepower" on a ship.
Litteraly every military machine the us makes the answer is "yes" 😂 we mount the mk19 fullauto beltfed grenade launcher to every platform that moves at one point or another. Dial up bad guy to baloney mist technology man. Youre dead its juat buffering😂😂😂😂
There's no kill like overkill! I never want our warfighters to not have enough smoke for the the party. So, the correct answer when asked how much more capacity and firepower is necessary, that answer is a resounding YES!
The only limitations on armaments should be running out of places to mount weapons or store ammo.
Better to have and not need, than to need and not have.
@@trailblazer632on my FFG we would add a 25mm chaingun to starboard and 2 mk19’s to port plus 4 50’s when we went to the Gulf back in ‘88.
And to Darren, there is no such thing as overkill. There is only open fire ,till the target outline changes or reload. No other commands.
Retired sailor here, we always used the hard A when saying aegis.
Yup, served 5 years on the USS Cape St George, everyone onboard said "A-gis"
Can confirm as a electronic Warfare guy in the navy
@@sprayandpray125 Hey, SLQ-32 is down again and they need you to go fix it. ;)
It's really only an accent, so they're both correct? Like a variation. America's system is literally "phonetics" so we can tell which
Current SPY student here. Hard A is still the case
Fun fact, the USS Gettysburg was the first ship in the Atlantic fleet to get the 25mm chain-gun. At the time, it was only operated by a person at the station. You were only allowed to fire 600 rounds before swapping with someone else because the concussion could cause internal bleeding.
"You were only allowed to fire 600 rounds before swapping with someone else because the concussion could cause internal bleeding." Something about that seems very American.
Best ship to be on. CA Div
@bobbaganooch1099 that was my div. I was there 2000-2004.
@@DavidC_92rounds per concussion is my new measurement of choice
The main idea behind aegis was to deal with multi regiment attacks by soviet naval aviation. Basically we needed something to stop big ass waves of missiles coming from multiple directions. Also, ground pounders call the 60 Blackhawks, in the Uncle Sam's Canoe Club they're Seahawks.
"Uncle Sam's Canoe Club". I love it 😂
This is correct. If you look at Russia or the USSR and the copycat, China. They use more Rockets than missile. And there, Rockets and missiles have more fail rates due to up keep in maintenance. This is why AAaaaegis was born.
That might be my new favorite nickname for the department of the boat people
Shut up and take my like!
Uncle Sams Canoe Group calls it the jayhawk not the seahawk
It’s an acronym to most of us that have lived it. Another Engineer Gone InSane. After working on it for 35+ years, I guarantee it’s true! And thanks for the inadvertent shout out. Was on LAKE ERIE when we shot that first SM-3 intercept (I actually executed the engagement) and also on the ship when we first used TPY-2 during an SM-3 engagement. Fun times.
That's fucking awesome. Thank you for your service and your fires. :)
Real question now though, were you sitting MSS or AWC? Just another console rider wanting to know, ha ha ha
@@realmenhavelittledogs2661 CSC. Was the CSMM at the time.
Perun made a nice summary of Aegis several month ago.
It was something along the line:
"Aegis tells you exactly what is in the air around you. And if you don't like some of it, Aegis makes it go away."
If you are familiar with Perun, you'll probably recognize his humour he always has in his (amazing) videos.
Which episode was that?
@@noneofyourbusiness4133 Maybe one about airdefense in general. But it could as well be about e.g. Japans doctrine - he talked about the Japanese Navy too back then, and since Aegis is a navy thing - well, there you are.
It definitly was quite some time ago.
Perun is overrated, and doesn't know much about anything.
That Aussie is the gold standard, insightful and concise arguments while including his sources for each video presentation he puts out. We need more youtubers like him instead of robot-voiced dime a dozen content copy pasters using clickbait titles and photoshopped thumbnails.
@@LeiSnowsdon't assume everyone else has to be as clueless as you 😂
For those of you who don't know, Gallium Nitride is a semiconductor. The main reason behind using these compounds, or as we call them, III-V or II-VI (hint, Silicon is IV in the mendeleev table), is the band gap and the lattice structure. Now band gap and lattice structure and how that affects the behavior of the semiconductors is something I'm _NOT_ going to explain here as I will probably confuse even myself, but it's enough to say that it gives the semiconductors some cool and exciting characteristics that are a great help in solid state radars and thermal imaging. There's a dedicated graduate course called *_Band Gap engineering_* for those who choose to study nanoelectrical engineering, which is by far the most interesting and potentially useful course I took as a graduate student.
I didn't understand a single thing you said but I love every word of it.
@@damoclesecoe7184He's talking about the materials and trace elements that go into making semiconductors (both discrete components and chips) and the processes that are gone through to make stuff with very useful characteristics.
Basicly its a specialized material science on super steroids.
What's your background
@@MrArtVein I've worked in various fields, from NDT equipment manufacturing to fabs to... Trust me, it's so all over the place that you don't wanna know 😂. But I started life as an electronics engineer and later a Nano-electronics engineer (is what you call it I guess). Used to focus on nano-devices and deep learning; think novel transistors, nanogenerators, metasurfaces, machine learning, that kind of thing.
Funny I considered presenting about that for my Inorganic chemistry lecture. Couldn't figure out how to explain all that shit when it comes to radar in under 4 minutes though so I skipped it.
1- Medusa was a Gorgon
2- The SH-60D in the Navy is called the Seahawk. There are SIGNIFICANT physical and operational differences
SH-60D?
@ivanbituin9023 The Navy's version of the Blackhawk.
For those who are to lazy to look it up and will click on this to ask who medusa was, thats the snake haired lady from Greek Mythos famous for turning people to stone when they look at her.
@@tmanknoll9702she was a mortal turned monster by a goddess jealous of her beauty.
Don’t think there was a Delta model Ik there was a Foxtrot, Bravo which were replaced by the Romeo for the ASW role
My favorite description of Aegis is about how various tracks are depicted as different shapes depending on whether they are in the air, on the surface, or under the surface, and whether they are friendly, neutral, or hostile. And then you can turn the key, put it in automatic mode, and the system will blow all those hostile shapes into no shape at all (paraphrasing).
That was from P.J. O'Rourke writing about the USS Mobile Bay in Give War a Chance.
"I can't describe how it all works, partly because of reasons of national security, and partly because as an English major I can't understand it. (The sailors running it seemed to understand it perfectly fine leading me to suspect the "failing American education system" is failing mostly people who think their too smart to have to pay attention in school.)
@@BrettBaker-uk4te As a CIWS FC('03-07) who helped the AEGIS guys on the USS Mobile Bay with random shit (because optimal manning SUCKS ASS): I hate that statement.
FCs are almost always people that test VERY highly on ASVAB and other aptitude tests and all of us that enlisted to be FCs (didnt strike into the rate) had VERY comprehensive tech schooling before we even went to our 'C' school (my C school was CIWS for example). When I say comprehensive I mean 2+ months of tech core training, then another 3 months of FC 'A' school, then 6 more months of CIWS school. AEGIS is just as long iirc.
So in short: the FCs responsible for AEGIS are, in-fact, those people who actually didnt need to pay attention in school and still nailed 3.5+ GPAs.
@@renegadeceo What about the people that had a solid 2.2 GPA and barely made it out of high school, but got a 99 on the ASVAB?
@@jordan9604I think those people mostly are a myth. You can not study at all and not do much homework and get at least a 3.0 unweighted if you’re the type of person to score a very high standardized test score. The only smart people who do that bad in school are skipping enough and doing drugs enough they truly just don’t learn the stuff- at some point not ever attending the algebra 2 class you’re barely passing with a d is going to hurt your standardized test scores because you need to have those math skills
@@renegadeceo Yeah man. All the technical rates are like that.
For example, I was a nuke. My 'A' school (first school after bootcamp) was 28 weeks where I learned to be an electronics technician with a mix of formal schooling and structured hands-on troubleshooting. Then there was a little break to keep the suicide rate down - and by God, I wish I was joking. After that, it was Power School; that was awful... everything from probability theory to radiological chemistry. We had three classes going on at a time, with at least one make-or-break exam a week. 40 hours in the classroom, and averaging another 25 (some people had to put in up to 40) study after hours... again in the classroom because everything we were learning was classified. THEN we got to Prototype and spent another six months or so putting all the theory rammed into our skulls into practice on live operational reactors - with 12 hour workdays on rotating shifts.
From when I boarded the plane to Great Lakes, it was two years (and two additional flights) before I even saw the ocean.
Navy Fire Controlman here. You have obviously done your research and the things that are wrong I can't tell you. OPSEC.
I have never researched a topic this much I spent hours trying to fully understand it
@@habitual_linecrosser I can tell you one thing, it is badass and once SPY is on, other Fire Controls are not necessary. Still use the long range air search, short surface search, limited to the horizon but it does take "everything" in, process, interrogate and track.
IN GOD WE TRUST, ALL OTHERS WE TRACK ☠️
@@habitual_linecrosserdon’t worry. I know people that have worked on it for years and still don’t understand it. You represented well.
The other reason I really enjoy all of your work is that you put out the the most important message of all, 22 a day. Unfortunately my brother became one June 30th.
@terryfishet4850 I am sorry about your brother. Til Valhalla.
Essm stands for evolved sea sparrow missile, it’s got a booster stage thrust vectoring and active radar homing. Seriously powerful especially for anti swarm defense
Its also relatively "cheap" lol
@@user-ft2zc5or9d "Cheap" compared to buying a new aircraft - or a new boat!
economoy of scale... BUILD MORE @@user-ft2zc5or9d
ESSM Block II has ARH, yes. Block I has to rely on X-band illumination, but both blocks can also use Aegis’s midcourse datalink.
They can be Quadpacked in the VLS.
Love the video, love the humour!
- Admirals have kind of a big staff. As an example, right before/during WWII, the US Navy commissioned the South Dakota class battleships. Four ships, the first one of them had one extra deck in the superstructure and two less 5"/38 gun mounts. Why? Just so that the ship could house an admiral and staff and act as a lead unit for the other three if they were to operate together as a squadron!
- The reason you found different numbers of VLS cells quoted probably comes from the fact that the loadout of the Ticos changed drastically over the years. They actually predate the inception of the VLS system. As initially designed and built they used "arm launchers" (Navy term GMLS for guided missile launching system) to fire standard missiles. I believe the first four ships were built with these launchers, all of them are now decommissioned.
The GMLS had a rotating drum magazine underneath the launcher to feed it missiles. It was slightly more efficient in terms of displacement per missile stored, but had more moving parts that could jam and also had a slower fire rate, hence it was phased out. I assume that explains the 130 missiles.
Another reason is that the Navy actually initially envisioned replenishing their VLS at sea using a folding down crane that would be stored in the space for two VLS cells, probably accounting for the 120 number. However they quickly realised that using a small crane to load a multiple decks tall canister of explosive death into a tiny slot on a pitching, tilting ship is not exactly safe so the system was removed, likely bringing the total up to the 122 cell figure.
- Lake Erie is apparently the US Navy's workhorse when it comes to exo-atmospheric intercepts because in 2008 she successfully engaged an old satellite in decaying low earth orbit!
- ASROC (now called VLA) is really a funny system because it dates back to the 1950s and was initially loaded into a huge 8 cell box launcher with unguided bigass rockets dropping either an ASW torpedo, or, but of course, a nuclear depth charge! It was designed to replace a failed autoloading rocket mortar design, which, in turn, was designed to replace the "Hedgehog" ASW mortars used to kill U-boats in WWII.
Modern VL ASROC (VLA for short) has a stronger booster rocket and features maneuvering systems that allow it to steer itself on a ballistic flight path so it can land roughly atop the submarine it's shot at. On a similar note, the Russians actually do the reverse, they have missiles aboard their cruisers/destroyers that they can fire out of their 533mm torpedo tubes for whatever reason.
- Phalanx is a cool system because it has almost all the stuff it needs integrated into it, in some cases even a power generator right next to it. Control is either fully manual in some systems, partially manual where the operator needs to give final authorisation, or fully automatic, in which case the gun has its own tracking radar, fire control radar and FC computer built in.
This is what makes the gun so dangerous but so genius. It will engage EVERYTHING (including friendly planes) if they maneuver in its designated area of no-fly, and it will do so until it is physically destroyed or runs out of ammo (or is switched to safe). Given that it has as little reliance on other systems the gun is designed to keep shooting completely on its own even when the ship took a hit that disables the main radar or power supply.
Wow. Fuck, I'm embarassed with this wall of text but hey, you gotta do what the Tism demands.
Pure definition of FAFO right there. If they turned the CIWS on everyone gets a bad day.
I remember the arm launchers on the Ticos from being on a tour of USS Mobile Bay in the 80s or early 90s. They used to have some fun with the tour groups by aiming the (hopefully dummy) missiles at them. But I believe all the Ticos were refitted with VLS in the 90s. Those arm launchers just couldn’t go fast enough to keep up with multiple inbound missiles.
It’s a damn shame we didn’t get those CGSN strike cruisers though. They were supposed to have two 8” guns and a ridiculous missile capacity.
I remember that in Desert Storm a ciwis gun on the USS Missouri was trying to engage a group of Iraqi silkworms (Russian land based anti ship missiles). A destroyer in between the worms and the Missouri fired chaff clouds and the ciwis gun on auto track fired at the chaff. In the process, it put about 120 rounds into the nearby destroyer and only stopped when the weapons officer for the gun turned it to safe
Also, I feel your energy. I often get carried away making large comments just to realize no one is gonna read it and care lol. Luckily, when I do it on these sorts of videos people like me read them so
The gorgon on his shield is meant to make his enemies fear because anything that looks at the gorgon Medusa is turned to stone no matter how great the being. The only thing that won’t fear a Gorgon is a Gorgon. There are only three in total in the mythology. A fitting symbol for a system of this magnitude.
The shield ata distance or by surprise or for a monster or being with lower intelligence is how the shield is utilized by heroes who were given the shield or by Zeus himself. Petrification by annihilation would be the metaphor by my guess.
Ok but how does zues pick it up and not turn to stone...
The shield is a life like visual on the shield. the powers of petrification only apply to Medusa herself.
@@dudedudes6077 Indeed. What the visual is for is to terrify the opposition into either capitulation or into fleeing. This is much like how an enemy pilot would feel when they see the signature of an SPY-6 show up on their RWR display.
@@NuclearFalcon146 incredible analogy sir
All I need to know about the effectiveness of Aegis is that a SOLDIER is singing the praises of the NAVY. 'Nuff said.
Former Aegis FC. The system is so intricate that there are four different specializations needed on each ship to make it run. I was a computer tech so I managed the computers for it. There were guys that would work on the SPY radars and there were guys that worked on the terminal phase system and there were guys who basically owned the consoles and displays up in CIC. The system is so massive that you spend months in school just to learn your small part of it in depth and have a general understanding of everyone else.
Us computer guys worked in the same work center as the display guys so we were more cross-trained on each others systems, so we could fix minor faults on the other's gear. Major faults were all that specialties problem, though.
Big ups to my Computer guy! I was an FCS/ORTS tech. Were you on a Burke or a Tico?
@realmenhavelittledogs2661 both, actually. I was one of the first BMD Computer techs in the Navy so I got cross-decked and did back-to-back INSERV/Deployments.
BUT CAN IT DEFEND AGAINST THE FASTEST WARHEADS WITH RENTRIES russia vanguard most dangerous nuke please let us know
@@aaronmcpeakofficial6256 Yeah guy, ain't nobody who knows is going to answer that. Also, the most dangerous nuke isn't the one launched at the tip of some wonder weapon. It's the one that's already at it's target, waiting for the dead-man's timer to not reset. Sleep well, tovarich.
A total of 27 Ticonderoga-class cruisers were built. 13 remain in active service.😊
I think the Navy (depending on the budget) is ordering 19 more Arleigh Burkes.
and i believe all will be retired withing 3 years or so
@@brabblemaster401 Yeah, with potential war with China over Taiwan a possibility, now seems like a bad time to be retiring platforms that can carry so many missiles which can protect the CVNs but as I understand it, the Ticos are just worn out. They've been in service since the 80s so roughly 40 years of service at this point. Keep building Burke DDGs to replace them and fast track that new FFG that will hopefully replace all those crap LCS ships.
Aegis' ability to integrate with non naval ground radar, and provide 'other systems' with information, is without a doubt one of the best features of it, and blew my mind when i first heard if being integrated with Spanish and Brit systems on exercise. The ability to handle that information and do so aboard ship is phenominal.
Also, and purely anecdotal here, a rumour has it that when a ticonderoga is pinged by radar it will ID, triangulate, and create a firing solution to, the source of the radar and, if hostile, jam it.... all automatically.
Gorgon aka Medusa, why because when US navy boys see what Aegis can do... they get rock hard.
One part of the aegis rabbit hole you may enjoy given your background is the data link systems we use so all of this can talk to each other across platforms. Also, the short answer to platform stability issue is gyroscopes, the kind that take a day or longer to spin up. If you want to see some Ops or Combat Systems folks lose their shit, tell them the gyro is going to lose power and the batteries are down.
poor WSN techs
@kennethschlegel870 poor ITs as well when that happens. Nothing worse than having the INS take a crap underway and watching our dishes go haywire trying to track a satellite 🤣🤣🤣
@@thekikendallsautoandrandom1271Only reason it becomes a headache for IT's is because some dumb SWO won't listen when told nothing the IT's can do yet still get told to fix the problem.
@@knightaries13 I imagine that is a similar feeling that I get in customer service IT where the customer wants their computers fixed, but the issue is with their internet company, not us.
@@damoclesecoe7184 In my experience that tends to be reversed where they want their Internet fixed but computer is broke. But, yeah, same difference.
As a final QA for the Aegis COMM center we always referred to it with the A not pronounced. I’m so proud to have been involved in it. Here’s a couple stories for you.
I worked CG-72, Vella Gulf, in Hollywood, MD. I had my QA stamp all over the equipment and got lucky to sail as a civilian on it. My experiment was COMMS based so our below deck equipment was in the center. While lifting floor tiles to install our cabling there were cables with my stamp!
Also all the equipment was built up in our test facility. We had all of our comm nets up and running. All of a sudden our teletypes erupted! The first Gulf War was starting. We sat there and watched the war and strikes unfold. Too f’ing cool.
Get out to DC some time, drinks and dinner is on me.
My first introduction to the Aegis system was Command and Conquer Red Alert 2. When that cruiser was leveled up nothing survived entering it's air space. I imagine today's system is very similar.
"Battle Stations!"
"Enemy spotted"
"Attacking!"
Kirov? what Kirov?
@@teslatrooperThe one that’s headed down to visit the Moskva!
About the two H-60s onboard a cruiser/destroyer, you're right. However, the SH-60B is retired and replaced with the MH-60R. Its pretty much an upgraded of the bravo variant.
I love when you do deep dives into other equipment! Thank you!
It's honestly super difficult I know I can't know everything about it some people come here just to find one thing I didn't mention I try to be accurate thank you
As a marine electrician I know of some commercial products that perform some tasks you might find interesting. Furuno/WASSP does ocean floor 3d mapping while rocking and rolling on the waves with heave compensation. Same with the searchlight sonar they produce. There are below deck sensors for ship movement and orientation coupled with 6dof gps heading and heave sensors over canbus or nmea0183, or nmea2k coms standards. The Furuno solid state 25w doppler radar has anti collision software and with 3 rotations of the antenna can detect if a radar return is moving fast enough or on an intercept path to touch you within 5 minutes it'll change the displayed echo color from green to red, and it can track and display over 10 return tracks and 30 AIS reports at a time (automatic identification system).
This feels classified…
Tmi shivy. Shut the heck up before the Chinks start listening then try to understand all that, ya Show off. That's how ships get boarded and people kidnapped you dummy
As a regular electrician I think your wiring looks like a rats nest and there's free side cutters in the bucket of soap, rookie.
Aegis is best described as a battle management suite.
Years ago, I tried to run some tests against Patriot and the USA didn't want to play with us (USAF). The USN invited us to test against the Aegis SPY-1 when we asked them. They were very open and told us way more than we needed to know for our tests. The SPY-1 was a very good system so the newer versions would be a very tough nut to crack successfully.,
I love the directions you are taking this channel: cartoonish shenanigans, military weapon science/explanations, and family events 😊😂. It’s an all-around wholesome experience for the masses 😎👍
Don't forget the USS Rancocas: The Cornfield Cruiser, or also called the USS Cornfield. All the Aegis systems were installed there and fully tested before they were installed into ships. It is still used to test improvements. I was able to visit the "ship" and work out a test of a USAF aircraft against the radar system. The test worked out well for both the USN and the USAF.
By the way it is a very difficult system to fight against and most pilots will know they lost shortly before the missiles arrive.
I drive by the Cornfield Cruiser a few times a year, always cool to see. Wish there was some way to get a tour lol
Crazy amounts of audible static when they are testing and it's light fluffy snow. ❄️❄️❄️
I love this slightly unhinged explanation of the aegis system.
It’s much more interesting than a monotone straightforward explanation
It's easy to remember the first rule of missile defense systems:
It's all about that base, 'bout that base, 'bout that base.
No trouble.
Surprised you didn't talk about the Aegis Auto-Special mode, where the ACS tracks, identifies, selects the correct response weapon system, and will fire weapons all on its own to protect assets in its bubble. It's meant for an overwhelming swarm attack, the computers can engage faster than the crew can.
I tend to think of that as the marker for 'the worst possible situation' because it's gonna take that before a user hits that button. (Well, unless they're abandoning a position and want to conceal that by letting it keep operating.)
Further notes: SPY-1 is a passively scanned phased array radar, Spy-6 is an actively scanned phased array radar. To cut the jargon the SPY-6 array is like a whole bunch of miniaturized SPY-1s working in tandem, this has a lot of implications I won't get into here but safe to say SPY-6 represents a leap in capability.
Yeah honestly wish I stayed in to work on the SPY-6 thing is a fucking monster
@@kp-uz9do So according to wikipedia Canada is getting SPY-7 V3...... The friendly warcrime people are gonna be able to see EVERYTHING
The fact you have been on Unsub Podcast and haven't done a collab project with the Electrician is mind boggling! This needs to happen!
This is a topic I can absolutely take part in because I know the system and was there during a good portion of its development.
We had 20 Aegis platforms back during the late 1980s. Of course, back then we only had the SM2 and the SM2-ER to go with the Tomahawks and other birds, but they already had plans for the SM-3 and beyond. The number of tracks it can take care of at any given time is classified, and that should let you know that the number of possible tracks is way beyond their admitted 100. As for how many missiles it can control at any given time, the answer is YES.
The most amazing part of the SPY radar system to me was the fact that you could literally kill birds with it. The SPY radar was also designed to burn through chaff and other forms of radar jamming/blocking. I can tell you that it is VERY effective in that department.
As for the range, we used to say that it could track a basketball sitting 50 feet off the water at 200 miles, but that was a slight joke.
Easy to believe, a RN Type 45 using 2 radars Sampson and Smart L can detect 5,000 objects but I think that is the traffic limit not tracks.
the gorgon head also turns people into stone; fitting considering the Aegis turns missiles into lumps of metal. Ang if it's any consolation, by the original Greek it should be pronounced EYE-gis, with a hard "g".
I kept saying it that way in my head every time he used the word. 😆
As a guided missile destroyer veteran I approve this message 👌🏽
I’m an 18 year AEGIS FC(FCA if you will) we came up with a pretty good acronym (though it’s not one)Advanced Electronic Guidance Intercept System lol
What FC though? That's the important part. Mk-99 Tech, I pushed the button, ha ha ha
I rarely comment on videos - but wanted to give props to such a cool comedian and Army ADEF guy for discussing AEGIS.
Captain Stecher came up with the name - Captain Wayne E. Meyer, who has a ship named after him, was way more consequential to the program and deserves equal if not greater recognition.
Ticonderoga cruisers are their way out just due to sheer age. The radar and combat systems work; but you can only run a ship so long before the literal physical steel of the hull and pipes which are exposed to seawater erode to a point of being dangerous. It's below the water line issues which condemn cruisers to the Philly Yard for storage in their decom.
There are over 70 DDGs, starting with DDG51 ARLEIGH BURKE, on active service.
Another significant capability of AEGIS' cohabitation on ships is then integrating SLQ-32 electronic warfare and other capabilities which are not inherently organic in other branch ADEF units, much less the same folks eating chow together and living together every day.
The only afloat system more complex than an AEGIS destroyer is the aircraft carrier they defend.
I've served on both a cruiser and a DDG. Nothing like them in the world man. They are great.
Edit to add: please put some respect on CARNEY (DDG64)'s name. She didn't shoot down just three LACMs...
www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/uss-carney-shot-down-more-missiles-drones-over-longer-period
I also want to highlight CARNEY is an original production Flight I DDG. Flight IIs run up to Hull number 78, and all DDGs from there to 125 are IIA's which added two helo hangar bays. Starting with DDG125 JACK LUCAS we're on Flight III DDGs.
So CARNEY and her systems are old - older than some of the Sailors who manned those systems during that engagement.
Sat through many a meeting with Wayne E Meyer. They don’t call him the Father of Aegis for nothing. Even had FOA on his license plate.
Ha ha ha, why you gotta bring up those god awful EWs and their SLQ-32s for?
Not a bad summary for a grunt. Well done!
Had the distinct pleasure of spending just under 7 years total between 2 different Tico's during my 12 years in the Navy. Aegis is indeed a beast. Sad to see the Tico's go but I'm still holding out hope for a CGNX in the near future. Flight 3 DDG's are cool and all but I'm a CG man.
11:45 Back when I was in the Royal Dutch Navy, our ship was voluntold to go experiment trying to shoot down a sea sparrow missile fired on us with one of our own sea sparrows. That was fun to be a target ship for a try.
Anyway, we also had torpedos fly out of the water not on purpose and a sea sparrow ditch in sea not on purpose.
Remember that try I told you about?
Fun times. 😂
SM-6 is even more spicy than you think. It's also capable of being used as an anti-ship missile.
That I did not see 🤔 that's wild man super cool honestly
that's mostly just a stopgap solution because the LRASM is taking longer than expected and harpoons are obsolete crap now. they gave the SM-6 the software to be able to go after surface targets but it's warhead is poorly suited for it.
@@habitual_linecrosserAll the standard missiles had in anti ship capability it's just it seemed to be a waste when you had 5-in guns and harpoon. There is a certain amount of satisfaction in knowing that the warheads would basically clear top side personnel in any and all antennas being damaged or destroyed on the target vessel even if it didn't necessarily cause it to sink You could pretty much blind it and take out the cruise top side with a fragmentation from the warheads.. periodically we did exercises to prove that, but then again and anti surface weapon was there to be any surface and the anti-air were there to be any air so it was a management of your engagement capability.
@@habitual_linecrosserThe SM-6 has also been test fired from the Super Hornet as an air-to-air missile. SM-6 has an unclassified range of 130nm when launched from a ship. I imagine it’s probably double that when air launched. I hope this is something the USN actually uses in the future. It would really help make up for the Super Hornet’s lack of range.
@@MarkoDashLRASM is already in service. The SM-6 has anti-ship capability for the same reason SM-2 did-because you don’t want to fill too many VLS cells with dedicated anti-ship missiles or Tomahawks, because you never know when you’ll need them for air defense. Giving your SAMs anti-ship capability is a supplement to Harpoon and LRASM.
My dad was on the USS Gettysburg and worked on the compter systems for this and several other systems. He always chuckled when people talked about it's limits, always adding "yeah... On paper..."
I worked on the E2C Hawkeye RADCOM system back in the 90's. Back then the E2C gave us beyond horizon radar ranges @ 250 miles+ And could share radar signatures with aircraft or surface vessels for targeting. Operation Desert Fox on the USS Enterprise (CVN 65) was my 15min.
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." Is an absolute statement.
Absolutely
There are no absolutes!
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This. This is what I've been wanting to see. Deep dive, long form content. Great video, sir.
We need more deep-dives like this HLC! Great work. Staff caffeinated.
An Ops guy on the ship described it to me as a windows based operating system that everything plugged into. You made it sound so much cooler
Most of us learned a lot more than we would have reading it for ourselves. I can understand why your students like you so much. I almost feel like I'm one of them from all the videos you make to educate us. Thank you for your service, and thank you for your lessons.
My dad is retired and worked on it, and from what he is allowed to tell me, it is every bit as scary as you might think 😂
Greetings from Spain . Without a doubt, the AEGIS system is a most interesting set of sensors, weapons and communications (Datalink) not only for air defense but even for sea and anti-submarine defense. I think the gradual combination of the US ARMY's anti-aircraft systems with the AEGIS system is going to be an impressive combination.
Former FC AEGIS spy-1 tech here (USS Monterey). One thing not mentioned very much is that AEGIS FC's are a rare rate in the military these days. They not only repair/maintain their system, they also operate it. We also have to sign up for 6 years, instead of the traditional 4, because of length of training. Love the in-depth research you've done, hats off to ya
As a Navy OS I worked with multiple Aegis platforms. The SPY 1 was the "top dog" for air defense and could track, designate, and essentially automatically engage threats with minimal manual control. The phased array is fixed and essentially just pulses on multiple superstructure surfaces as compared to the earlier rotating fire control RADARs which worked throught the NTDS on earlier USN craft which fed multiple radar system feeds into one system but they were generally all typical spinning transceivers. I learned more about our world via RADAR than most would ever believe.
As I recall, an issue hitting the Ticonderoga class is their aluminum superstructure wearing out quicker than steel.
Aegis: the “you only get to hit your target if we choose to let it happen” system
I served on the Adam’s class USS Barney DDG-6. She was a DDG at her launch in 1960. Originally she was to be a regular DD but the decision to go DDG was made in 1957. The USS Barney was commissioned in 1962.
That is perfect. I was class 27-12 with Patriot as an E. Pack up and move the radar 2 inches and it’s broken. Perfect. C 1/62 2013-2016
Have you seen that the B-21 Raider took its maiden flight on the 10th?
And it’s supposedly getting air to air
I wonder what accent the B-21 will get in his videos.
He probably knows, based on the last part of the "a much requested character emerges." video on his channel
Air-to-Air for a B-21 epitomizes the adage, "Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it."
I love these deep dives, man; keep it up! Also, the new Constellation-class frigates being built will have a version of the Aegis system installed, albeit with a much smaller armament load out.
As always. Thank you!!
I love how as he describes the weapons we’ve strapped on to these machines it sounds like military R&D is a 4 year old drawing more and more shit to attach to his crayon drawing of a helicopter and an engineer looking over his shoulder taking notes.
Plus the Aegis Ashore systems now operating in Romania and Poland.
In the game "Cold Waters" there's a couple mods that allow the player to play as an Aegis cruiser, or destroyer during various stages of the platform's life cycle. So when it was first developed, through to the current era. The mod makers noted that, when they were writing the code to make the in game Aegis behave like it's supposed to, they had to quote "tone it down" because the system was shooting down... well, EVERYTHING that got too close, making the ships near on invincible to surface and aerial attack.
The system was just too good. To the point it was rendering any surface or aerial attack moot. Even so, with the modifications they made gameplay wise, it's still VERY good. Based on everything I've heard about the system, and having seen how it was represented in that game, I have to wonder what it looked like BEFORE they made it stupider so it didn't just dominate incoming fire.
Horrifying, absolutely "I don't want to play anymore." level 'might as well be a shield out of star trek' level game breaking. Any game maker aiming for something remotely realistic has to bend to making a thing balanced rather than accurate a lot of the time with modern equipment. This is just a solid example.
Just found this, I can't get enough! Too great.
I was an stg on board the Chancellorsville when the AEGISv15 was first introduced to the fleet. It's so insanely powerful!
Second To God.
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I love your short clips of countries talking shit to each other.... but these in depth 30 minute videos are a close second.
More of these, please. They don't even have to be directly related to the military. For example, I'd happily listen to you ramble for a half hour about how microwaves were first used to defrost frozen hamsters that were being used for hypothermia experiments, long before they were used to heat food.
As a vet that was on cg 58 I can confirm there are 13 Ticonderoga class cruisers still active
I think this is the first long form video I watched. Good stuff mate. Much appreciated.
Bro i do not know what it is about today, but I am LOVING the videos coming out. 3 of my favourite creators have released 3 excellent videos
Good on you for undercounting Aeigis platforms to be safe but there are 73 active Arleigh Burkes alone. There are definitely more than 40 Aeigis systems out there
73 ABs and 13 Ticos
Plus those aegis ashore systems like the one in Poland.
You're all right for an Army puke. First, they're ships. If they were boats they'd be submarines. Look up USS Rancocas, aka the "Cruiser in the Cornfield", aka the Combat Systems Engineering Development Site (CSEDS). It was where the AEGIS system was developed. The first computer 'game' I ever played was the Harpoon Interactive Tactical Training System (HITTS) in 1980. I was hooked for life. I was one of the first officers qualified to both direct a Harpoon attack and operate the Harpoon Launch Console.
Go Navy, Beat Army.
In addition to submarines, other boats in the USN swing from a davit.
you Rocked this!! When I was first in the Gulf (ELF1 days), We tied into the Navy net, but we were always the time sync for some reason. Upon initializing my system, the first thing I had to do was sync the time.. We had an issue (which I would only talk with you in person) where there was a tracking problem.. That was how I found out the Navy was synced to the same time. I had to verify my time sync with the Navy.. And yeah, AWACS does send it picture to the Naval units just like the E-2s.. It was amazing even back then…
I thank you for every video you do, Entertaining and educational. Thank you for your service and Happy Thanksgiving!
The SM-3 is our most expensive defensive missile. It's so bad ass & scary. It lauches a kinetic kill vehicle in space and uses thrusters to adjust. I explosives are used. DARPA released a video of them testing & developing this kill vehicle on the ground & what appeared to be a cage. The video is quite old, but I remember seeing it when I was younger. If you're reading this, chances are you've seen it
Oh, Have seen the video didn't realize that's what it was for.
I have read it is 25 million bucks per round.
The Aegis can data link to the E2C Hawkeye. Some people claim a Ticonderoga Cruiser can link to the whole battle group. In Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising, Clancy mentioned the Doomsday mode. An Aegis Cruiser could take over the fleets' assets. Pick out and service targets without human oversight with the best weapon available.
What happens when there is a denied environment, all of this stuff works when there are still metal boxes left in orbit.
@@zipz8423 this operates without any of that "locally". Locally being wherever they can bounce a connection through something like the E2C. Sats are not required.
When they say the Helo and the ship can "direct tactical actions" for each other, what that means is the guys in the CIC on the Tico can see everything the helo sees, and fire on targets based on that. That's what makes those rocket-launched torps so damned scary! They can far outrange the distance the Tico's sonar can get a good fix on a decently quiet submarine, but the helo can range out and do that for the ship, and then the ship can reach out and delete you with a rocket-launched torp.
The boat people were doing "sensor fusion" in the 1980s, and if you were a soviet sub driver, that shit was terrifying. What's scarier is that it was cross-navy, so a British ASW plane, a French helo, a Japanese Aegis destroyer or a Dutch frigate could do the finding part, and then Tico or whatever else can just reach out and deliver some weapons grade "find out" if it's better placed or equipped to make the shot.
This sensor fusion also extends to things like the E-2C Hawkey and the E-3 Sentry AWACS planes, Merlin AWACS helos, ELINT aircraft and ships and other ships radars. I am also lead to believe that much of this data can be fed to aircraft like the F-35.
Thank you for explaining this for us. My retired CSM father mentioned it but didn't explain to my SP4 self. He is very confident in it & now I am, too.
Holy smokes, as someone who works in Aegis Acquisition for the Navy, there are a ton of errors/omissions here. Big one is there is currently only 1 ship that has SPY-6 installed and it just got delivered to the Navy this past summer. All cruisers (all to be decommissioned by 2027) use eithrr SPY-1A or SPY-1B. DDGs use SPY-1D (FLT I and IIs) or SPY-1D(V) (FLT IIa). The FLT III DDGs use the SPY-6v1 varient and start with DDG 125. So currently we have 71 DDGs in active service (DDGs 122 and 124 are still in construction) plus the 5 or CGs so roughly 75-77 american ships use Aegis currently. SPY-6 has 4 varients (v1 is the FLT III DDGs, v2 is what is going on the Ford class CVNs, v3 is going on the new FFG Constellation Class, and v4 is a backfit varient for the FLT IIa DDGs)
Oh, and if you really want to go down a rabbit hold check out Aegis Ashore. Its a land based Aegis system. Thats one of the things that got Putin's panties bunched up.
Is AMDR the same thing as SPY-6?
@zipz8423 pretty much, yeah. AMDR was kind of the working name for the radar before it was officially designated as SPY-6.
@@Panzur03 TY!
You missed one, AEGIS can also now data link with the newer Coast Guard cutters.
You had me at Skynet😂😂
Every time you post a long form video CID gets excited.
A tico has also shot down a malfunctioning Satelite with an SM3 in low orbit, I think it was in 2014
Just FYSA, for whatever its worth, you're on the very short list of creators whose ads I don't skip past, thank you for what you do for us, both here on YT and your day job. o7
I get so pumped when I see one of these videos pop up. Make millions more of them please sir
I Love your content, funny and educational bro!
How fascinating! We do love cybernetic organisms ... AEGIS is a very interesting one indeed! It seems IBCS is poised to be even more amusing!
Thats what I was waiting for. Thank You.
My first real knowledge of Aegis was from Tom Clancy’s Book Red Storm Rising which to summarize centers around, What if before the Soviet Union had collapsed they’d launched an invasion of Europe and started WW3 in the early 1990’s a fantastic book… and as a kid I had a great Naval combat game on my PS2 called warship gunner2 in which you could install Aegis on your ship and it allowed you to automate several different defensive weapons that made a roughly 20km circle around the players ship an instant no fly zone
Love the content HLC 🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤
AEGIS Combat System: You know how in an RTS you see everything your units see? Yeah we did that. Then we let them aim via each other because the USA likes to go one step further beyond.
It is fun to learn about equipment and tech from you. You had to go over it yourself first and I'm glad you shared what you found out with this video.
Love all your stuff HLC!!
Before watching this video im wondering how many times im going to see the "I cant talk about that or I go live in Levenworth for the rest of my natural life" facial expression 😂
9:22, yes sir! The USS Lake Erie
Hey bro, offered to help you weed out some of the big questions before. Offer still stands. Love your work.
I'll be honest man I totally forgot who to reach out to I went into hours of research on this system. This is my most researched video I have ever made l. I hope it shows
@@habitual_linecrosser 😂 I will say like many others that it’s appreciated you even attempted this. But if you’d like to get a better understanding, I’ll show you the actual rabbit hole. You’re still looking at the edge, and I’m not trying to be offensive in saying that.
There’s actually much more that makes the system what it is. Much more than a radar assembly that gives it the adaptability and bandwidth other countries fawn over.
Give me a shout if you’re interested.
To anyone say Patriot is an acronym, Patriot isn't an Acronym, but "Phased Array Tracking Radar to Intercept on Target" is a backronym to Patriot. And yes, Backronym is a thing.
Okay okay but, why cant I own my medicinal m1 abrams main battle tank. It really helps my social anxiety.
Have you tried to buy one using a creditcard?
The Aegis is upon the Shield of Athena
It is the head of the gorgon Medusa and it turns enemies to stone
Athena is the goddess not only of Science, but also Defensive Warfare
What better name could you want ????
The version Aegis that USCG uses is called Athena for that very reason. It will be called Atalanta on ships that were formerly SSDS.
Thanks for your entertaining video, a lot fun. Have a happy thanksgiving. Peace.
‘Ya were not going to say that on CZcams’ got me rolling.
MOAB named coffee sounds like a good way to shit your pants on the way to work... I'm strangely interested now.