Are You Guilty? Judging Your Sim Racing Crashes
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The true race fan experience is to define everything as a racing incident, unless a person you don’t like was involved, in which case it’s always their fault
Aka the Twitter Guide to Talking About Lewis Hamilton
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Irony
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN literally proving a point
lmao
Or the driver you're a fan of was involved, in which case it's obviously the other guy crashed him out
Jimmy I sent you an email, it has diagrams where the punts should be on the track
Sorry Alex, I don't check my e-mails during races.
I don't think Jimmy pins or likes comments very often but this need a pin rn
No Jimmy that’s so not rigjt
@@stefohlenforst1283 it’s called a motor race we went car racing
( you have to read this with Toto wolff's voice )😂
Anyone else notice that the Haas-McLaren accident was single player? So cute that they asked if they did something wrong regardless 🥺
it's a sign of a very good clean driver in the making
i already love that guy and wanna follow his journey
he probably got penalized by the game somehow :D
Cute is totally the wrong word
@@Sweaty__Sheep language is symbolic, the guy is saying he's cute because it's a pretty innocent thing that a new player might be worried about. It isn't a 'wrong' word to use, since it's pretty clear what is meant by saying it
That Porsche wasn't even moving under braking. Just turning in to the corner.
Exactly. That tight line is a valid and fast line through that corner at daytona. And regardless, even if it wasn't, the other car is so far back it doesnt matter whether it's a defensive or natural move, because the car ahead owns the corner no matter what by being that far ahead.
@Bilbo Fappins LOL
Exactly
Pretty sure there are people that will say the Porsche was at fault. Especially the "Power Point Guy"
@Bilbo Fappins Was the subreddit deleted as well? The link doesn't work for me
this would be a really fun series to see you do on stream, and maybe even with discord members incidents!
Broughy did a series on it called the stewards room
you mean inchidents
Totally agree, that would be excellent content
As long as we also get a highlights version for the channel, sure.
Great idea. Discord incidents FTW
I enjoyed that Jimmer. You’ve got a ridiculous amount of experience and it’s interesting to get your perspective as well as being entertaining we’re actually learning a little bit to more of this content please
I 100% second this! I learned so much from this and this wasn't even trying to be that much of an educational video. I would prefer listening to Jimmer talking about the rules of racing than some overenthusiastic F1 bleb show Verstappen fucking up in every example.
I've only ever really raced in single player, never online... And it's given me some baaaaad habits, which makes me deathly scared of ever taking place in actual competition against others, whether online or in real cars :D
I've only ever tried online on the F1 games and the trick to those is keep your nose clean and the results will magically come...
@@joeogle7729 so... no cocaine when racing?
@@thrawnjan I would advise against it
@@thrawnjan if you wipe your nose off after i think it’s alright
Honestly u should try acc online. Majority of people are really chill and usually is a good learning experience. Not many drive really dirty, if anyone does punt somebody its usually on accident. Best sim to make mistakes and learn from people imo
I used to be scared of online too, but acc online easily became one of my favorites to play with strangers
Never expected to see one of my clips featured on your channel, so you can imagine my surprise at the intro! (I was the guy assassinated in the MX-5) Great video and love the feedback on all the clips
That wasn't an assassination. That guy wanted to Thanos you outta existence, lmfao
@@HitMan0199 😂😂😂🤣
That red/yellow Miata never even would've made it around the corner going that fast
Agreed just an absolute assassination.
Dude came from a different postal code
I would have
agreed. dude literally just used the other guy as a speed bread to get him round the corner..... thats some gta level bs.... *hides the proof i do this constantly in single player racing games when i know imma lose*
Dude was on his way to mars xD
I’ve seen you rage at lapped cars in races before, would you ever do a guide on how to lap and how to be lapped, including as many of the scenarios you’ve found yourself in through the years?
The best advice for lapping & being lapped, IMO, is pretty straight forward - Communicate your intentions as early as possible. No last minute decisions/surprises for others to react to etc.
You dont need VOIP, chat, or indicators, just position yourself in advance so the other party should be able to understand your intention. Try and make the decision and the move early enough that the other party can see and process your intentions and theres a far greater chance of it going smoothly. Parking your car in the middle of the road gives a clear msg - youre either against the lapping here, or youre making your intention to send it here. You dont need the element of surprise when passing/being-passed. Be clear - communicate your intentions.
Also, if your planning to let someone pass at the end of the straight - dont do it at the very end. Its beneficial to you both doing it earlier and dragging it out longer. Lift and coast so the speed delta is minimal but sufficient, and then tuck in behind well before the braking zone. The benefits is pretty significant. You both should be able to attack the next corner without any uncertainty, they dont approach the corner slower thinking you're not getting out the way meaning you both go through slower, theres FAR less chance of you tucking in badly and clipping them... its a win-win for everyone. Its safer, faster, and theres no uncertainty. Last minute braking and then aggressively tucking in to lose less time is filled with risks & time loss.
If you’re in a slower car, most of the time guys in faster cars just want you to follow the racing line, especially in the corners, they will probably just overtake you on the straight. Now if you’re in the same class of car, I wouldn’t know what to tell you. If I get a blue flag I just let off the throttle on the straights then tuck in on the corners
When lapping I've always given the driver ahead a couple of flashes when closing up and then when i intend to pass. Best done along a straight as you're intentions aren't to put the driver off just to make him aware you're coming.
Usually the getting lapped part occurs down the straight but if not communication is key. If you want to pass me for the corner coming up, line you car up slightly left or right of my car (depending on where the inside is) and that makes your intentions super clear to me.
@@reillyploplis7457 What I do when we have the same category cars is I stick to the racing line, out of the corner lift just a little bit so the lapping car is getting a faster exit, then wait for the lapping car to make a move then lift a little more so I'm overtaken fast, tuck behind and we off to our own merry ways.
4:20 "you can't expect someone already turning into a corner to turn out and let you through"
*Lewis turns out and lets Max divebomb through in Abu Dhabi last lap intensifies*
this was a really cool idea, would love to see a sequel maybe with community submissions a la the roast my rig vids
Roast my incident as the title
@@VIEultimate roast my inchident surely?
I’m a firm believer that if you are going to sim race you should understand the fundamentals of racing. Racing etiquette, Allowing racing room, When to and not to pass ETC. Good segment
Agreed, the amount of rookies that cant do 5 laps in practice let alone the race...
Ya it's nuts.
Understandable i don't have any clue of racing but recently bought myself a wheel and some pedals to play it in VR. When i want to overtake someone i just spin them out of the race or bump into them so i don't drift out because of the speed (it's just AC career not online). So yeeah i didn't know you can't do that😂
I love the steward subredit, we need more Steward Broadbent!
There is some Really good videos to learn from on it and a bunch of really funny ones
I really enjoyed this! I'll echo the sentiment that seeing more videos or a stream doing this would be a lot of fun
This was a really nice video to watch! I know you said on stream last night about wondering what to do on the channel. All I can say is, do what you enjoy! I'd like to see more of this content, but I have honestly been LOVING the real world racing/car stuff you have produced!
I really liked this! Gives me a new look on how to see racing situations and incidents, and how they could've been avoided! Appreciate ya Jimmy, I would love to see a series - or even just a 2nd video - like this one 🖤
This was actually a genuinely really fun and even occasionally somewhat insightful video, would love to see another one sometime or something
More of this!!! 100% agree with all the calls, would love this as a series to teach people proper driving etiquette.
More of this stuff please! Very cool and useful pack of dos&don'ts :)
“Drive sometimes in real life”?? Man you are a real racing driver and totally deserve it! We love you Jimmer!
Thank you for the great video saving me from a tough time. Thanks Jimmy
Need more of this, definitely!!!
I'm part of a race director/stewards team for a sim series, and i can say that, even though its virtual, its still a tough job to undertake!!
Seeing your opinions and rulings on these (and knowing they align with my own opinion) helps to boost my own confidence on decision making!!
Thanks Jimmer!!
This was awesome, loved it! Awesome way for someone like me who is totally new to sim racing to learn etiquette on the track which would normally go unspoken. Would love for this series to continue!
Jimmy, this was really good. As a Pro sim racer and a budding Professional Driver, I'd like to see more of these technique and strategy type videos from you. Keep up the good work and good luck this season in the Praga.
Hey Jimmy, I really like this concept and I was actually going to base my channel off something very similar. This is very entertaining and I can say most sim racers would love to have incidents broken down and judged. You can do this kinda of thing better than anyone mate. Keep em coming
This is actually super informative.
Please do more of these!
Our track day instructors told us the same thing about the passer being responsible for making a good overtake. I enjoy knowing it's not that uncommon of an idea
I definitely want to see more of steward Jimmy lol. Mostly to see if I end up in one if these.
9:00 i feel like its the responsibility of the passing car(lambo) to be fully clear of the defender(audi) if hes gonna turn in. I dont think the audi needs to back out. On the contrary, the audi shouldve given slightly more room in the left hander
Isn't the rule of thumb that you need to be about 1/3 of the way alongside to claim space? A sliver of bumper isn't enough to just pretend to be able to go side by side on that corner
Just a really clumsy incident!
You actually see similar to this quite frequently (in real life!) at this corner sequence but usually the guy on the outside of the RH'er knows to give more room since you can come out of the RH'er side-by-side and usually have the advantage coming off the corner.
But that's not the rules or etiquette of racing. It was the Lambo's corner - and clearly his corner - and the Audi needs to back out and concede the place. At some point the car in the lead has to turn in to make the corner. He was near as damn it all the way ahead and in no position to judge if contact was likely. On the flip side the Audi driver had complete visual reference regarding where he was on the track and where the Lambo was and in a much better position to see contact was likely if he continued on the line he was taking. And seeing as he was pretty much entirely behind at this stage it's 100% his fault. No question. No debate...
By the looks of it I would have leaned towards No Further Action.
Reasoning being that the series I'm in has a rule for leaving space for other cars. The #46 was still alongside, even if not fully, so #25 can't force them off-track. But, #25 was the only one suffering damages in the form of a time loss, so No Further Action.
Full agree on the first bump though, #46 should have left a bit more space.
@@Eat-MyGoal
Hmmmm interesting! It'd be lovely if racing was that clear-cut - It's not! (No question. No debate...)
Both cars could have and, if they were experienced racers (in a real car that they have to pay for!), should have got through the RH'er side-by-side with no contact. That would have satisfied the rules AND the etiquette of racing!
On that sequence of corners, the pass wasn't complete and it was a bit silly not to leave more room for the Audi considering the Lambo would have come out of the RH'er in front. Again - clumsy incident!
Very helpful series. I often play with my cousin who admittedly watches a lot more motorsports than I do, and therefore probably knows the rules better. I try to drive very clean and rely mostly on slingshot maneuvers to overtake, whereas he often just bombs my inside on brake zones. We often have crashes with maybe 1/4-1/2 car overlap where I can't really see that he's made a move on me, and already very committed to my line. We often crash this way, and can't agree who's at fault
Please make a series out of this, this was really fun to watch!
I want to see Jimmer watch Nascar races with this kind of out look I feel it would be funny as heck.
Roses are red, my flags are blue. Unregistered Hypercam 2.
This content is veeery cool Jimmy, your amount of experience really helps newer sim bois on racing "etiquette"
This was rather entertaining, seeing your opinion on some of these crashes, and I would love to see more of this, because you essentially give a driver's insight on what's happening.
So many of these moves, are moves you would make vs the CPU while playing offline. lol
Makes me feel like that's the reason why people end up doing it online.
You shouldn't be making these moves vs the CPU. Cheating your way to victory will always be a hollow victory to me. Whether it be against a real person or not.
"The guy on the inside is always gonna come out alittle bit, so you gotta give him more room" Jimmy solved Max v Lewis
Different situation
Please do more of these!!! Best video I've watched in a while. Probably learned a lot as well :)
Just discovered you and watching your Sim racing judges vids, and I wanted to say : those good old Gran Turismo musics in the background are pure pleasure !
I feel like at 8:00
The Lamborghini needs to be put more as fault as well. Like a 50/50 situation to me. As much as the audi should've backed out for the second part of the corner the Lamborghini 100% positioned themselves to take a racing line as if the Audi wasn't there. You can see that as the connect the first time the Lamborghini is perfectly lined up to steal the apex. I believe if they didn't connect the first time the Audi would've been lined up with the door at least and rightfully deserved the inside
Heavy disagree, going into the 2nd last corner (exit of vale) the Audi is nowhere near significantly alongside the Lambo to warrant room, he literally pit manoeuvres him, how can that be a racing incident?
"You must always leave the space". I do agree. Could the Audi back out? Yes certainly....but is he entitled to some space, I think so. He also have inside for the next "2" corners (half a corner and a kink and t1) so I believe it is a reason to want to stay there.
It all is in the definition of alongside....in the leagues I race, that is alongside and lambo at fault. Other leagues and others may disagree.
That is what I think about the simracing world is much more to the, must leave room side and I like that. Had the audi sent it in to be at that position it would be the audis fault....but he was always there so no supprise really for him to still be there. Had the Lambo cleared the audi and moved over and audi then popped his nose in then it is 100% audi...but in this...I blame lambo.
Leave room, Lambo is in a position to get the better exit anyway so why risk it
Agreed. If you are side by side into the first corner of a chicane I would say it's only fair to leave space on the second corner even if they are not entirely side by side. You know he's there and you can't slam the door in his face.
I'd only disagree with the weaving on the straight one. "Braking the tow" should be allowed, and he only did one right and one left sweep, so not too aggressive. Then during the overtake he slowly moved to the right, to push the opponent to the inside of the next corner. That's where Jimmy, and maybe the FIA, sees him at fault. But it wasn't under braking and wasn't cutting right in front of him too quickly. He moved over to make the overtake harder and the contact 11:58 happened way before the overtaking car ran out of space.
Doesn't matter how slow the movement is, its still weaving/reactive defending AFTER already making a defensive move. Its not even an FIA thing, pretty much every series will slap you for this.
great video. more of these! its rlly cool to hear your perspective
Thanks for this video. I am confused by proper racing etiquette a lot of the time as someone who only does rally. This video helped put things more into perspective in regards to overtaking.
My dementia ridden grandma could judge racing accidents better than Masi!
Of course, as he wasn't responsible for assessing incidents or giving out penalties
Still triggered? lol
Btw Masi was not a steward.
It's a joke.
?
It's a joke.
Fucking Max fans ruining everything
This was really refreshing to watch, this would make a good series for the future!
I'm brand new to sim racing and the racing community in general and these videos are great. Entertaining as hell and learning experiences as well. Your explanations are great and I'm learning what not to do without having to do it myself first
Really like this Jimmy, would love to see this sort of thing semi-regularly 🙂
Very interesting video with some good insights backed up with explanations. Would welcome some more of these!
Love these type of videos! Great content as always Jimmy!
This is absolutely brilliant more of this pleaaaase!
This is so much fun and informative! We didn't know we needed steward-jimmy!
really cool format, would like to see more of these videos
Loved it! Hope it continues, great idea for a series
Ayyyy the video I suggested you make on stream got made! It came out just as good as I hoped. Hope to see more!
Great stuff! We need more of this!
keep these vids going once a week this is informative i love it and gives good info
Loved the video, hopefully a once in a while type series!
I really liked this format. Its educational and wierdly fun watching you gooing through incidents
Thanks, This does also help me in my races, BTW, super nice retrowave song in the end, LOVE IT!
Pretty insightful, would love to see more of this
This is a really excellent and interesting video, Jimmy. More please!
Enjoyed this video, reminded me of the times I've sat in front of my computer watching an iRacing replay for an unhealthy amount of time, clicking forward and backward frame by frame to try and work out who was at fault...
Yay! I was just thinking last night Jimmy should do another one of these videos. These are fun!
man this one was really cool, i don't know much about racing but i do enjoy it. don't know how much of your community are not knowledgeable in racing so this is partially learning abut it. some more content like this would be awesome, all the best jimmy
New format and I really like it. Hope to see more!
Love your real world racing and love this series. Keep it up Jim :)
More of these! These videos are always fun and thought provoking. Judge Jimbo has a good ring to it also XD
What a great idea for a video! No idea if you’ve done this before but I love it.
This video was really good, so more of this format please 👌
Very enjoyable, Jimmy! It's nice to get your perspective, based not only on your sim career but you praga experience also.
Actually really enjoyed the veteran racer's POV on these incidents, would definitely watch more of this kind of content!
Loved this video. Awesome Job Jimmers!
I loved this!! I do hope you do more of these videos.
12:13 looks to be also a correction to avoid the grass on the left (but controller input makes the move too big). For it to be a defensing move it was too subtle I think, although he was cutting across the track "sneakily".
Amazing vid! A lot of experience to share there Jimmo
Love almost all of your content, but this is excellent. More, Jimmer!
Loved the video! Would love to see more of this
I've learned so much about racing from watching all of these. Please do more!
Do more of this jimmy pls i love it so much
More of this please! Love this content.
Loved the Steward Jimmy, and I'd be happy to see more!
Loving these judge/react to community videos, please do more!
Excellent - love to see more of these. I'd also like to see Jimmer do an actual race as director!
Loved the vid! One of the best in a while imo🤙
I am a sim league racer myself so also very helpful👍
I genuinely loved this video, mostly because of the actual real-life racing insights, code of conduct, however you want to name it, being applied and explained in great detail. You rarely hear these "unwritten rules" explained so well. Absolutely would love to see more of this, it's honestly a lot more informative than it is funny, but that's what makes it great.
Watching your vids whilst turning one out is the highlight of my evening! Cheers Jim
Great video! This would be an awesome weekly series such a clever idea! 👌
This was equal parts fun and informative. Definitely would like more videos like this one.
Great vid, just got into iRacing begining of the year and definitely been a few times I have realize something was just racing incident or actually my fault when I thought otherwise.
spa with the Aston was very similar to a crash in the 911 cup race 2 at long beach, also gotta love both Cleet and Rob Dahm in the recommended videos
Good content for a regular series. Really enjoyed it.
You could make further videos or even a stream like this!!!!! Really enjoyed it!!!!!!
This is a great video. Please make this into a series Jimmy so all of us can learn.
I love seeing this knowledge sharing Jimmy. It's wholesome af
Love it 👍 Make it a series Jimmy.
This could be an awesome series, more of it Jimmer!!
Super fun and helpful. As a fledgling sim racer I'm a bit hesitant to get on track with real people because I don't understand this etiquette yet. Talking out these examples makes it much more approachable!
I would watch more like this. Well done Jimbo!