Ban the Foam - PVC and Composite Doors Security Tested
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I was a firefighter and we would sometimes come up against these stronger doors while trying to enter a house fire. Fortunately there is almost always another opening right next door filled with glass!
The doors made from layered wood like a skateboard deck (edit: plywood) with a pvc skin are unbelievably strong, I was sitting on the toilet getting high while the police were using 'the big red key' for almost half an hour before I just let them in as my walls were smashing up around the frame and I'd finished smoking everything, crazy how impenetrable that door was.
all they needed was bigger key
Did you tell them Dave’s not here😂
As a locksmith of 20 years I’ve never come across a door where a burglar or anyone for that matter has used a sledgehammer to open it 2 noisy Probably they normally just attack the lock guessing because it’s a lot quieter plus you could have the best door and frame in the world that you could hit all day with a sledge hammer and it just bounces if the cylinder is rubbish and handles are poor quality that 5 grand door may aswell be a 100 quid door. Was a Good video though
They are just showing an element of weakness for certain types of door construction. Thanks for posting, it's a positive video showing an important feature.
Many thanks,we are just about to get one so this is excellent advice.
If someone is prepared to use that much force then why bother when you can just lob a brick through a window.
I once locked myself out and had no choice but to gain entry by climbing up to a rear first floor balcony (which was hard enough) and then smashing an upper quarter-light to put my arm down and turn the handle on the main sash window (the only window that didn't have a lock).
I took a brick with me and was flabbergasted by how difficult it was to break the glass. I eventually did it after creating about twenty extremely loud bangs which would have alerted the whole neighbourhood. Even then I had to manouevre my arm past razor sharp edges.
Toughened double glazing really is incredibly strong and if the sash window had been locked I would never have got in before the police had been called.
What if someone was using the sledge hammer properly? Would it still survive
what about welding arc. lolz....
How did I get to this page 😂😂
It's irrelevant anyway as if someone wanted to get in using noisy tools, they would just break a window
Composite doors are very good and its not a bad thing to have a stronger door but as a police officer for 19 years, I’ve never come across a burglary where they’ve attacked the front door with a sledgehammer. Generally they go round the back out of sight of the public and attack a window!
You swung that sledgehammer good! The only people swinging on doors like that though are cops and firefighters.
They didn't hit the green door co's shakin stevens was behind it laughing a lot 🤣
How fucking stupid and blind are you?
They hit it TWICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is the fire rating of composite doors ?
Why did all of the doors have glass panels, apart from the solid core composite door?
because the others weren't that much worried about security , while the one who would buy that door , would be someone who cares about security so he would want windowless door
My next door neighbour has what looks like bullet proof glass on their door. If I knock on it or the door with my knuckle, they could not hear it on the inside. So, a tough door with glass is definitely possible.
Because it would have made the video look silly and pointless if three men with a sledge hammer were pounding away at the solid base when they could easily put a glass panel through instead. A solid door is not a solid door with a glass panel in it.
There's always a glass window if not on the door by the side. All you can really do is make it so it can't be easily kicked open. Brickwork wouldn't last long with that sledge hammer would it.
Impressive display of strength by the composite door. How do the various doors compare from an energy perspective?
Only shoot them with certain rounds with known rated kinetic energy.
That's one way of finding out.
Very informative video; thanks. We're about to have new windows and a front door fitted, and like most people, don't really know the differences between similar-looking products. Which door brand/manufacturer is most respected?
For solid core composite doors we would recommend Endurance Doors as the manufacturer. Are you based in Reading?
Thanks for your reply. We're in Shropshire, which is some distance from Reading, unfortunately. Nevertheless, your help is noted and if we do opt for an Endurance door, I'll be sure to tell them about your recommendation.
@@ParaBellum2024 Thanks Howard, all the best!
Thank god windows are sledge hammer resistant 🎉
There should and must be only solid wooden sustainable doors, there is a book "Hand Hewn" about timber framed buildings.
I had a problem with a lodger last year and the police put the front door through. I was amazed how easy those uPVC doors are to put through (the middle part just pops right out with a good kick). Unfortunately it's a housing associating property and they won't replace it with something more sturdy.
Gaining access would only work if the lock was a thumb turn or the key was left on the inside
Correct, never leave the key in a five lever lock
You had been hitting on right middle of the door which has a panel to support whereas in other you had hit on the 2 middle design panels.....this is for 3rd door......also can you compare with a steel door???
Can you have same fitters that you were pleased with for some more d/glazing..
i have never heard of a burglar making that amount of noise or taking that amount of time with a sledgehammer, most burglars are opportunists.
If someone was happy to make that sort of noise they'd simply smash the windows in and climb through.
Need solid core composite windows? 🤔
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Over 70% of forced entry is through smashed glass.
Yes, Brilliant idea! Just jump through a window with a bunch of broken glass! I'm sure the DNA from the blood left will probably be more similar to an ape rather than human anyway.
A plunging circular saw should work even on a solid core door.
*THOR WILL COME TO THE RESCUE! LOL!*
What about an Oak door Firedoor, would like to see the hammer test on those.
good question - i suspect solid wood might well resist a sledgehhammer
But wouldn't someone just break a window to gain entry if they were prepared to create all that noise kicking a door in ? You would have one quick (muffled ?) smash and they are in.
vinm300 generally speaking no, they will avoid leaving any DNA evidence at all cost and getting cut on glass is definitely not a way to go, plus getting stolen items through a smashed window isn't an easy job either
vinm300 but if this happens we have rather a larger problem: the end of the Uk
Re: Brea a window.
You might think that, but try telling Cheshire Police who smashed down the front door and frame when the back door was one large glass panel. OK. It was an emergency but it would still have been quicker going in the back door despite the obese office having to waddle around two sides of the house.
Alternatively, just peel the handle shroud, drive out the pins and remove the lock. Any self-respecting burglar [and I'm sure the Old Bill must know plenty of local talent!] could've had that done in two minutes. I know I can!
@@kylepreston317 once they are in they will just open the door, not sure why the need to pass stolen items through a smashed window....
MAGA anti-globalist if they can open the door they would have done it from the outside, most doors do not have a turnable lock from the inside, so no, they will not open the door
Video says door is powerful
Lockpicker: hold my beer
Our composite doors are more than physically strong - they are designed to resist all kinds of forced entry attempts with maximum security locking hardware. They're precision engineered to as difficult to break into as possible :)
@@AbbeywindowsCoUkltd depends what you class as maximum security hardware.
Grp all the way how do the fire brigade get in lol
No one in an urban area uses sledge hammers to break in
Firemen have a truck mounted ram, no door is strong enough to resist.
Is it bulletproof?
That'll stop the trick or treaters...
I wonder how much they paid bruiser mchuge to demolish the doors? Walked in the local boozer and said “anyone up for a quick job”?
Someone teach them how to use the hammer
Yeah. On the other two they hit the same spot, on the composite they hit different parts every time.
If you move into a property, how do you know what type of door you have?
usually check the product code on the door. and by knocking haha
Twat it with a sledgey and see if you end up inside or not 🤣🤣
With the composite doors you won’t need to break in as they all bow within two weeks of fitting and you cannot lock them so you can just walk in
Can you use this for a back door?
You certainly can! Composite back doors are becoming a more and more popular choice amongst homeowners. We supply and install throughout Reading and Berkshire - if we can help you, please do let us know :)
Wow… I don’t think my house is safe after watching that.😳😩
Any lockpicker: Hold my beer.
Pál Bontovics anti snap locks
With the latest and most secure locking hardware available, our composite doors are able to resist many kinds of forced entry attempts - not only brute force :)
@@AbbeywindowsCoUkltd what lock do you use
The lock picking lawyer joined the conversation!
Whilst this video demonstrates the strength of the doors. Anyone attempting to break into a house isn't going to bring a sledge hammer along and bring attention to themselves trying to smash the front door in, especially when your neighbours properties are overlooking yours. That amount of noise will alert your direct neighbours. Burglars aren't that stupid or naive. Fact.
But they will give a good front/back kick or 10 as I've seen in many videos here in the US.
@Murasame we're in the UK, and the video is from a UK company. You're comparing apples and pears when comparing the UK and the US, in terms of domestic burglaries.
Also if they are professional burglars that can pick locks then having a strong door isn't hoing to stop them.
You'd be very surprised!
@@stevecooper7038 surprised at what?
All of your doors have mail slots that allow you can reach the door L-handle with a wire. So why would you need a hammer? 😂
Try using the key
Composite door,battery circular saw 10 seconds.
Why hammer the door when u can see there the glass panels on most of them?
in case the Police come a knocking
As a visual display of the strength of the solid timber cores door..its a demonstration they're not actually trying break in 😂
Our composite doors feature toughened glass so they are able to resist all kinds of break-in attempts and give you complete peace of mind :)
Grinder test it
Composite doors are very heavy and settle with time and will need adjustments for sure. If someone is going to break in they will find a way no matter what kind of door you got.
Of course what they dont tell you about is the inherent problems of the solid core composite doors - The problem is movement of the solid timber core that can bow the door and split the GRP skin - The darker the door the more problems you will have especially if the door is facing south - I have never had a problem with foam filled composite doors they are very strong and stable and have literally no problems in use - If you firt a solid core door especially in black facing south you will invariably have problems and may need the sledgehammer yourself to get in if its a hot day
Completely agreed. We are currently about to replace a solid core with a GRP door. We have the exact warping and cracking you mention. What's the point in splashing out on a top of the range solid core door when they all have the possibility of doing that?
We have a South facing dark coloured Rock Door which bows and Jams when the sun shines on it but I thought it had a foam core?
@@garyharrisonuk Im not sure as to the construction of Rockdoors it depends how long its been fitted - I personally have only fitted one of those which was dark blue I think it had a foam core with a mesh reinforcing and its been fitted about 15 years with no problems - If youy are having problems with your door the manufacturer or installer should sort the problem out for you under the guarantee
@@bernie129locksmith I do vaguely remember them mentioning mesh reinforcement.
The first Rock door we had fitted warped. Rock sent fitters to inspect it and then replaced it. The second door then also warped but by then, the installation company had changed their name and 'become' a different company (but at the same address with the same phone number and staff). Rock were aware that they had replaced the first faulty door but refused to help with the faulty second door because the original installation company were 'no longer trading' so we are literally 'stuck' with it.
@@garyharrisonuk Hi - we have fitted hundreds of composite doors of all colours with little or no problems - We only fit nanyar panels which are the best - there are a lot of cheap GRP panels out there and these seem to be the problem with bowing splitting twisting etc - I would have thought you would still have a claim with Rockdoor as they changed the original door and replaced it with another faulty product not fit for purpose - I personally would threaten Rockdoor with county court and if they failed to respond I would issue proceedings against them - Thats just how I would deal with it - Rockdoors are very expensive ,You have paid for something thats not fit for purpose really so should have a case !
Nobody is going to be bashing the door with a sledgehammer; its too loud.
Thieves typically will go for snapping the lock or attempt to pry the door (thus the frame being the second weakness).
steel blade in my battery skill saw will make short work of all those doors lol ...
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Who tries to go through a door like that? Just kick it and the jamb will blow out.
is it just my family who likes to make it seem as if no one is home in hopes that if some1 wanted to break in they would be super shocked when they get shot in the stomach
Your family are nutters. If you want to murder someone just murder someone. Waiting like a camper on counterstrike Go for someone to break in is more fucked up than a serial killer imo.
Thankfully, in the UK we don't allow idiots the "freedom" to have guns.
Dont know if you guys still in the business, but there are no videos showing what is needed to convert a normal front door frame to have a wheel access. The frame at the bottom has a high trip hazard. Can you please help and make a video to show? You are going to be the first (you can check youtube) and for sure its going to get a lot of views.
That would be far too noisy, go through the glass on a smaller window round the back
As well as solid and strong composite doors, we also offer resilient windows with toughened glass, so your home can be completely safe :)
Abbey Windows - Double Glazing Reading. You can easily still break a window thats reinforced. Bulletproof windows get amashed through, theres literally videos of it
If he's using a sledge hammer why wouldn't he just smash a window?
That’s why you have a Rottweiler 🤷🏻♂️
Brilliant video! Thank you.
if it stops a zombie then its good enough for me :)
I have never heard of a burglar breaking through a front door
Don’t see many burglars going around with sledge hammers
There is no security with modern doors the locks are simple to get through including anti snap and bump key and door makers know it
Always hide a key in the garden people......simple......
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The only good thing about the foam is for insulation
Why bother with the door. The window is much easier.
We offer a wide range of strong and secure home improvements so you don't have to compromise - our windows feature incredibly strong double glazing, so your home will be able to resist all kinds of forced entry attempts :)
@@AbbeywindowsCoUkltd regardless of how strong and secure window companies claim their products are. If someone wants to get into your property, they will. Fact.
If you can't get in that also means you can't get out in a fire!
Sonny Fish you use the lock on the inside of the door to get out. People don't use sledge hammers to get out of doors during a fire! 😂
Which is why folk install a tilt and turn window to allow for fire egress in the event of an emergency.
Many UK doors are deadbolted. Regardless if you want to and can break through your door, that still wastes time.
Just unlock it bitch
@@lmaoroflcopter unless it is locked to tilt only , like many tilt before turn windows are.
@@jizzmonkey9679 not in my experience. It would be an unnecessary expense installing a tilt and turn hinge setup for a window if you just wanted it to tilt.