Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 Final Verdict | Is It As Good As You Want It To Be?
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When Royal Enfield first introduced the Shotgun 650 a few months ago I had the pleasure of taking it out to review. This time we've got it for a few weeks and this is the first time the Ol'Man has had a go on one.
We go into detail on this review about how it rides, the character, performance, stopping power, handling and more...
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The Tripper is most definitely not pointless.
It's inconspicuous and doesn't leave your £1500 smartphone sitting exposed on your handlebars when riding through dodgy areas.
Agreed, you have the nav but don’t have to look at your phone for once.
Yep completely agree - also nothing worse in my eyes than a beautiful retro looking bike with a big lump of modern iPhone sticking up from the handlebars. Yuck.
I agree, I like the approach. In addition to your valid points, I also like to get away from the emails, notifications, texts etc when on my bike, so with this I can leave it tucked away in my jacket
@@ianbaines9705Yeah. I got a phone holder on both my Meteor and CRF .. looks hideous
*Plough*
Bought a Shotgun recently and love riding it. Plenty of power, good torque, very comfortable for distances and nimble enough in traffic
I have been considering trading in a TW200 for the Shotgun 650. How is the seat. I spent 3 or 4 hours on the TW200 and I have a real sore saddle!
@@mbeck6319 I have travelled 250km on it on a number of occasions, in a day with no discomfort at all. But have yet to do any longer trips.
I view it as a base for a customisation project.
I'd really like to see an 850 Continental GT and Interceptor for an extra £1500 with tweaked and more refined suspension.
I think they'd sell a lot of those.
Would be cool to have here, but won’t sell in India. I think even the 650’s are overkill over there.
Amazing father and son team, does my old heart good to see you two in such a natural collaboration. Miss my Dad, he would've approved. Keep em coming fellas 😊
Absolutely fell in love with this bike on a short test ride. Most definitely something I’d like to have in the garage.
first thing i liked about it, was all blacked out. i dont want to clean! waste of time! i like riding, have better things to do with my time.
Recently sat on a shotgun and it fits like a glove, really surprisingly nice
I felt the same way when I sat on one! Haven't ridden it yet, though...don't want the temptation to buy!
Needs belt drive conversion kit. There is a firm in Thailand offering it.
Better if RE did it standard!
That aside it's perfect.
Would you have a link to that firm? Thanks!
Great video lads and what a beautiful bike! Can’t wait to see it in South America 👏🏍️
It’s a handsome little bike and I think it will hopefully appeal to a new generation of motorcyclists.
4:32 in India using a phone is actually a headache because of extreme warm condition and too much sunlight phone get hit up and battery drain very quickly and also that most of the Indian like me don't like buying costly phone so there screen brightness is less.
Excellent presentation of this fantastic RE 👌
My 👍 as well comment are well deserved for your thorough work, lads!
@@kwakithailand thanks 😊
@@MrDarcy-OlMan U R most welcome, mate 🤝
Enjoying the dynamic with Oldman and Darcy. Very cool. could it be a 650 scrambler format for RE new bike?
Great video as always!
Great review, thanks!
You're more likely to be reviewing the Guerilla 450 as the Classic 650 is still a few months off from it's release date.
A Scrambler 650 is also in the works but that's probably going to be released next year.
Great video and a nice bike 👍🏼
I been testing out my mates Suzuki V-Strom 250SX 2024 model while he is on holiday, I have had it for a few weeks now, he’s been talking about this bike for ages. Since Yamaha dropped the VStar 650 line up and Harley have out priced them selves it’s a contender with no competition really.
This bike in grey is going to be my next one. I love it 🤘
well I have just managed to dry my eyes! the comment about cleaning your little hole just had me in stiches, it reminds me of Steptoe and son, you Darcy old man!!!
I bought my Shotgun 3 weeks back, added some accessories ... and I love it, even though I also own 2023 X-Diavel & 2022 Hayabusa Gen 3 & 2021 Trident 660 & 2024 Scrambler 400X
in all I have 5 bikes.
Thanks Mr Darcy & OL' Man
Cool
Great video and lovely bike...I want one!
Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
I've been waiting for the Classic 650 and the Scrambler 650 since I got my Interceptor last year! Love my Interceptor though.
Ive got the shotgun in sheet metal grey. I don't mind the weight its superbly balanced. I would like 60 or 70 hp, but what it's got suits modern urban traffic and doesn't bother me. Ordered the Rhino racing exhausts and will do further tuning as funds come available. Looks wise for me its great, something from the 1950s crossed with 50s imagining of the future.
Enjoy your reviews except the old man seems to have bee in his bonnet about upside down forks.
I really like the rear light . I’d prefer spokes but those don’t look awful . Oh , you just mentioned you like the rear light as well. Overall looks-wise , I like it. And the way it sounds. That is a lot of mat-black , but a shiny tank (with different color(s)) might make that alright too .
Test road this machine and really wanted to like it. The look was great and everyone agrees with the price.
Trouble is I wasn't ready for the lack of performance, turning the throttle didn't produce the acceleration I was expecting. The machine didn't have many miles on it so I didn't want to rev it out but I gave it enough to expect a bit of a surge.
On top of this there was an annoying tingling in the nether regions I found uncomfortable. All the road tests are glowing so I was perhaps expecting too much.
Finally the suspension was harsh and the ABS cut in early as I approached a junction on a dry road when I wasn't being silly.
Overall the finish was okay at the price point although the switches were cheap and plasticky.
I concluded it wasn't for me and would have to spend the extra on a Triumph, sorry Enfield.
When you start looking at used bikes the selection of higher quality machines makes the purchase decision much more difficult.
Same here but I ended up spending less on a Triumph and got the speed 400. 😂
I think had RE gone with solid colors and a nice vintage badge on the tank and left pinstripes or other decorations up to the owner it would have a wider appeal.
I really love the look of the Shotgun. I test rode one and was convinced that it was going to be my next bike...... until l tested a V7 Moto Guzzi 😍😍. I've now got a real dilemma as l can't afford to get both! 😫. Regards, Mo 😊 👍
It a very nice bike like most RE are now. Nice review. 👍
Many thanks 😊
Really nice-looking bike. I ride cruisers but I'd consider this
Guerilla 450 will be launched next.
Still waiting on RE to release a scrambler with that 650 engine. I’ve often thought about building one myself with an Interceptor, but it would be nice to get one I didn’t have to customize too much. All the mods add up quickly lol
Love the bike, it looks quite long in the video, I think I would engineer a bracket to put the dial in the middle
Hey Darcy you reviewed Continental GT 650 did you feel and high speed wobble issues? Thanks for the review ❤
Only if you hit a pothole due to the narrow wheels 😊
I like the phone idea
Just receive mine ,white color 😊🔥
As Henry Ford said you can have it in any colour you like as long as it’s black.
You can have this in more than one colour so Henry fords saying doesn't apply here. 😂
@@Rayraysplums
I guess that what ZZR1200ZX meant is that Ford's words apply to the engine of the Shotgun.
I doubt that an upside down fork actually has less unsprung weight. Instead of aluminum sliders you now have the steel tubes bouncing up and down. The real reason for a “male slider” fork is the rigidity from mounting the fat part to the triple clamps. There’s also some improvement in the internals of the forks but it sounds like Royal Enfield missed that part.
I'm hoping they come up with an 850 especially for out Australian market. By the way, you guys tried the RE 650 Interceptor with the 800 kit?
@@biker_dan no we haven't tried that 👍🏼
This or a conti for a daily commute (5 mintues) and the odd weekend bash?
I'm sure they will make a classic 650 using that frame but not blacked out engine and hopfully twin clocks and wire wheels.
There would be a good comparo - RE650 air/oilcool vs Triumph400 watercool....
I think shiny chrome has been done to death over decades
the original interceptor of the 70s was a 750cc and was even sold as Indian Enfield in USA so they should have made this one a 750 or 850cc thats my only thing to reject this and look for goldstar with full 650cc single cylinder long stroke motor now❤
You can't deny the value for money, which goes for all of RE's offerings. 🍻
Nice looking bike if you like that sort of thing but extra weight and worse chassis geometry means I’ll stick with my Baker Express
I think it looks good (aside from the backed out motor) but having owned an 883, I can’t imagine anything slower than an 883…
I have one it's just awsom for long rides awaaa it's so god
Lovely bike but, as with the current 350 and 650, I think it would be much improved with a larger frame for the western market.
Great review...but i prefer the interceptor in my garage
For me, the practicalities of the blacked out engines outweigh the slightly less Classic look of the bare alloy. But, we're all different. Hopefully, when the Classic 650s arrive (or according to the most recent spy shots it looks like it might be a bullet actually), they'll do what they've done with the new Bullet 350 and give us a decent range of colour ways so we can choose either black or bare alloy 😊
Darcys new bike!
Have you guys reviewed the new Harley nightster for comparison ? (And ignoring the price difference :) )
Yes we have about a year ago, have a scroll through our videos 👍🏼
So Darcy will be at the launch of the Guerrilla 450 in Barcelona? I'll pay you a drink if I see you in the streets ;)
Sure will 👍🏼👍🏼
Date?
@@ashhash8973 July 17th
Hope to bump into you buddy 😊
Is there a mod to add a tachometer? I like to see my rpm.
Not sure 🤔
Black black and more black forever!
What is the ride like? Is the ride something one can live with on extended rides?
Its not bad, it just hits uneven surfaces a bit roughly
the only bike i would trade my interceptor for, would be the "classic 650" ... if there ever will be such a thing 😆
The RE 650s are big enough, powerful.enough, fast enough. Each is distinctive. The Shotgun looks good, but I'll keep my Interceptor.
They make great Bikes for that Money
Oil!! What is the old man's helmet? Looks great! 😊😂
Its a Premier Trophy helmet 👍🏼👍🏼
@MrDarcy-OlMan Smashing! Thanks. I'll have a look. It's my 59th birthday next month. I'll see if I can get beautiful wife to get me one. 😄👍
@@jez6208 its the best helmet I have ever had 👍🏼
Goan 350 (bobber) also launching soon
For me, blacked out is essential because chrome is such a ballache to clean.
It does have an attractive profile. The best-looking RE650, maybe. If the rear mudguard is metal, you could use a really big magnetic tank bag on it. Nick
Not if it's Aluminium...
@@sd3457 True.
I can't understand why you say the speedo needs to be centralised and then stick a mobile phone on your mirror 🤔
I like the tripper as i like my phone in a top picket so I can quickly take a photo if the need arises. Im going to take a test ride on the Shotgun as i think RE have nailed it. I would love a 650 classic signals too 👌
The speedo is a permanent fixture on the bike, and needs to be central to be aesthetically correct for one reason. The quadlock phone mount is a choice, and impermanent, and on the mirror, it’s out of the way. 👍🏼
It's made from steel but nevertheless the steel pig appearance is missing. Beside this I don't like the glossy engine side covers. The base is interesting but because of the optical issues, including the colour, I'm not really a fan.
I really enjoy your reviews, they are very unbiased and informative, I just wish Darcy would take his sunglasses off, call me old fashioned or a tit ( I don't care ) but I find it really annoying when someone is talking to me while wearing sunglasses. Great review.
It’s very difficult when the sun is shining directly in his eyes.
I think its styling is fine, RE have a massive slice of the retro market but they do realistically have to try to branch out beyond the 70's nostalgia thing. I hated he classic-style frame when it first launched, but it's growing on me.
I like the look of these Shotguns.
Unfortunately being 5 foot 4 with a 27 inch inside leg. Most bikes are too tall for me.
Over the last few years it appears that bikes are getting taller and talller.😢
Royal Enfield Guerilla 450? I think that's what they may have ve you test..
I'm with the ol' man, the bars are a bit narrow and do seem low. The paint scheme is awful. They need to take a lesson from Triumph, maybe a nice speedmaster red or black and white scheme. Love the channel, by the way, keep up the good work!
whats the name of the camera used in this video ?
It’s filmed on a Sony A7iii
Sony A7iii
My ķind of bike but it should have better colours, twin clock's and i personally dislike blacked out bikes especially blacked out silencers they look so much better if they are stainless or chrome. The Interceptor to me is a nicer looking bike.
I'm guessing 'Guerrilla'
Time for RE to step up and provide larger engine. 900CC 1000CC 1200? This framework with more HP would be perfect sort of like Indian Scout territory ,Speed Twin etc. As is I think lot of riders will outgrow it real fast. There are lots of RE interceptor for sale in Boston area less then 5k miles which makes me think owners just got bored with them...
Bored? Or uncomfortable 🤔
Nvm I was thinking of the continental gt
What better HD sporster 883 or shotgun 650?
Did you watch the last video which was a comparision of the two? Both our thoughts are mentioned in that video 👍🏼
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Oh, thanks
@g1n4ik29 here is the link 👍🏼
czcams.com/video/ei1MIceX_5o/video.htmlsi=v2AbKIL_8LYNoJ-g
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Thanks ill watch this video👍
What’s your new bike ?
@@_S.E.J_ video coming next Tuesday 16/7 at 5pm 👍🏼👍🏼
I think RE have gone for the younger rider with this one and rightly so they have many other options available for the more classic looking bikes. I am beginning to wonder which one of you is the old man🤔.
12:49 👍
Seemed like you were struggling to find much excitement about it compared to other bikes you’ve reviewed. I like it but it doesn’t really grab me. I think you’re right about the colour schemes not doing it any favours.
Yes you’re right tbh it didn’t excite us very much
New RE is the 450 Guerrilla
I’m STRUGGLING with that rear mud guard. I won’t be trading my RE Continental GT650 for a Shotgun.
I was thinking the opposite.
Royal Enfield should scrap the Tripper and fit another dial with a Rev Counter
You guys need to start reviewing CF Moto bikes they have made the biggest impact lately. They have a small cruiser out the CF moto CLC has classic looks and tech
The problem with blacked out bikes is they don't age as well as metal or silver finishes. Once you get the inevitable marks on the engine cases and other areas that are blacked out and they start to look tatty. But also agree with you, that the metal look finishes look more classic, classy and pleasing.
Do either of you feel that, as presented, this bike could handle another ten horsepower with ease? If not, where would you say it's immediate limitations lie - ie. frame, suspension, geometry, etc?
P.S. Your Soft-tail would look ace with colour matched (not chrome) sprung-girders up front : )
Yes it could easily handle more. For what it is; we don’t think it needs more, but opening it up with free flowing air filter and exhaust would make it feel way better
Or lose like 5-10lbs
Maybe I just can’t see past the paint schemes but this bike does nothing for me, I don’t like the blacked out engine either. Royal Enfield’s usually grab my attention but the Shotgun doesn’t 🇬🇧
I like the style of the bike but not the colour schemes. Also too heavy and not enough power for me
No passenger seat?
@@ekatatprompunya2480 its an optional extra 👍🏼
Let me guess, the new Enfield will look a lot like a Triumph.
všechno ok .ale titulky 🤣🤣
kW is a standard unit of measurement for power. Horsepower is just a mess (remember the hp figures for the Veyron when it was released: 1,001 PS or 987 hp?) We're not rocks: we can adapt and change for better systems. We don't need to stick with everything from the Past, some modern comforts are better.
Nothing’s complicated here, 746 Watts = 1 horse power.
In addition, 1 horsepower is the power required to raise 550 lb in one second or 3300lb in one minute. Ok.I know, I’m sad but I just had a flash back to when I was at tech college !
I like the look of ALL of the 650’s, but the weight, performance and handling make them a bad choice for me. They do not inspire confidence at low speed traffic especially when lane splitting, and on the open road the performance is somewhat underwhelming. Possibly had I lived in the English countryside like you chaps I would have had a different opinion. In Pattaya it’s not a very good choice. 😉
The cheap multi sticker badging that they clear coated over, the off set gauges, and the useless tripper make zero sense to me especially for a platform that Rae advertised as a base for full customization. The tripper on my Scram Himalayan is useless and resets non stop. This bike should have a tach or a small non intrusive TFT type dash.
Oh boy! I hate that colour scheme.
The bike looks cheap to me and budget oriented.
I guess they’ll sell plenty of them but I wouldn’t buy a RE over a Triumph or a Norton or a Honda CBX 1000😱
second thing, i do not want to put my 300 dollar phone in the open while riding, its always in my inside pocket of my jacket. i like that google attachment for directions. just me. i just do not put my phone in the elements of 100 degrees or the 0 degrees.
New bike maybe a ....650 HIMALAYAN !!!.....or not 😁
Peace out ✌️
The bike looks cool but the graphics are crap and don't suit
Do you think that RE are launching too many new bikes now. I'm starting to lose interest.
they always make a good looking machine too bad a interceptor is 9100 euros
Yikes! It's about $6000 in US....
@@jamesonpace726 exactly my point makes no sense buying one when it’s 10k