10 things (YOU NEED TO KNOW) about the Boss RC-5 & RC-500
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- Get your LoopStation here: redir.love/thocf/4jzg2rsxjg - Affiliated link from Thomann Boss released two new pedal loopers. The RC-5 and the RC-500 loop stations.
In this video we take a look at 10 things you NEED to know about the new loopers and the reasons why you might buy one!
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#bossus #bosspedals #rc500 #rc5 #looppedal - Hudba
Just bought the RC-5 for my first looper pedal. Wish me luck!
Awesomeness 👏 👏 👏
same bro haha
Here is some help - czcams.com/video/77Tnq4lf734/video.html
JP question for you. Lets say you wanted to save a swing beat on Preset one, and no actual loop. Will you be able to go back to that Preset and use the function where the RC500 follows your tempo? Meaning the tempo will automatically change? I know that function is on this machine but not sure how it applies to saved loops.
Basically want to set up some presets with different beats and control the tempo with the loop so I can play any song with a swing beat (for example) using preset one , and adjust tempo accordingly.
Hey Vinny. Yes you will.
You can also save a specific best with a specific drum kit which is awesome.
The biggest feature for me that nobody seems to really mention is how the 99 presets allows you to do your main loops at home on Monday afternoon & save them. Then they are ready to go & you don't have the PRESSURE of nailing a good loop in the middle of a song DURING a PERFORMANCE. Unless you do live looping on the fly, which is a bit different, I only use it for a basic backing rhythm behind a few leads for our acoustic show. I LOVE the RC-5! It has made my life much more stress-free! :)
That’s a really great shout and for those who use like you do, the 32bit quality and 99 memory patches are a god send.
Add an external pedal to that RC-5 and you can do some even more awesome things with it.
I do loop love but I also do gigs that are covers and with the record time and bank saving, I’m looking into changing how I do some songs so I can just enjoy playing and the performance instead of stressing out about building a track every time. 👍🏻
Do you know if a midi keyboard is able to be used and looper on the RC5 with the TRS input? Or is it just for beat machines and other stuff
Hi Graham, had to do a bit of digging on this but the short answer is yes. it will receive midi key notes from a keyboard just like an external pedal and you can turn them into messages to control the RC-5, like a pedalboard. hope that helps.
Is there a setting for the rc-5 to select what comes out of the left right outputs? I want guitar and looped guitar parts on one while having the drums on the other. The jtc drum & loop pro by nux can actually do that. I would prefer the boss of course if it's possible
Hey 👋
So there isn’t a setting (there is on the RC-500), however if you plug in in such a way and use what I call dual mono, then this should help do that.
Check this out here - czcams.com/video/tErt9uASsPs/video.html
Thanks to be so clear, straight to the points. I'd like to know if in the rc-500, when you store a loop it saves both individual layers, the one from loop 1 and the loop 2 in the same memory number. Thanks.
Hey 👋
Yes it does. When you use the software from boss, you can see on each memory the audio from loop 1 and loop 2. 👍🏻
Thank you Sir! Please show me, how can i adjusted up and down volume of rhythm (Drum) on RC5 pedal. I feel the sound of Drum is too loud for the guitar volume. I want down volume of Drum, while keeping the guitar volume, i hope you can help me. Thank a lot!
Hello Truong 👋
To adjust the volume of the rhythm, first long press on the Rhythm ON/OFF button and then you will see the rhythm menu.
The first option is Level, which you can then use the control knob at the top right to click and change the value.
Hope this helps.
👍🏻
Great videos but could you tell me how I can connect it to my multi fx pedal. The pedal has send and return sockets. Thanks John
It totally depends on your FX pedal and where you want things routed.
I route everything through my looper as the last thing in the chain but not everyone wants to do that.
I route mine like this - czcams.com/video/tErt9uASsPs/video.html
But you might wanna take this one in - czcams.com/video/SCBU0A2Gwjw/video.html
I hope they help
Hey John, great video - thanks. I am wanting to buy a loop set up just for voice/mic and to be very portable. Any suggestions?
Depend on your setup but you can be hyper portable with a Phone or tablet and Loopy Pro with an audio interface and mic. Depends on what you need though.
Hi JP, thanks for this video, I will add that with the RC-5 you can set the tempo with accuracy, whereas the RC-3 has just a tap tempo !
Nice add there Chris, thanks 🙏
Hi, Thanks for your Video! I have a question for the RC-500: Has the rhythm section a "count in" function and how does it work? is it like a real drummer with the sticks sounding or just a drum intro like in the RC10r wich is not really useful....thanks for your answer! Markus
Hey Markus - I'm sorry I havent responded - in all honesty, I thought I had!!
I actually made a video that covers this in part becuase there is so much it can do - check it out here: czcams.com/video/BunZH2Vnbno/video.html
@@JohnPaulMusicUK
Hi Paul! thanks for your answer, I think, its gonna work for me. Cheers! Markus
I’m thinking of buying the rc500. Mainly for busking . Do the drums
hythms start on the push of a pedal and follow the tempo of guitar or does the bpm have to be preset . Hope this makes sense
it depends what you are doing but you can set it per memeory. you dont have to set it at all thou and you can just press the button and go. so its up to you how you want the pedal to behave.
Hello. Thanks for this video. May I ask you a question about the maximum length of each single loop that you can record on the Boss RC 500 ? For Instance, can I record a loop of 5 or even 10 minutes ? Thank you very much in advance and have a nice day.
The maximum loop you can record is not 5, or even 10 minutes.. it’s WAY MORE! Max time is Approx. 1.5 hours (1 track), Approx.13 hours (total of All memories)
@@JohnPaulMusicUK Hello JP. Thank you very much indeed for your answer, which has been very important and very usefull for my purpose of buying and exploiting the Boss RC 500 ! I will certainly keep on following your channel and videos. Have a nice day and good music !!! GP
Just got the Boss rc-500 and I’m still testing it. I haven’t been able to synch the Boss 880 drum machine to the Boss rc 500. The Boss dr 3 is the only drum available in 2020. Thank you for any helpful information.
Have a look at the parameter guide - that might help. 👍🏻
static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/RC-500_Parameter_eng01_W.pdf
So final question Paul , if you were new to looping so first time purchase would you buy the RC30 or the RC500 given approx £100 apart ?
I would genuinely go for the rc500.
Reason is because it is a huge improvement on the 30.
That third button on the track select makes all the difference and the fact that you can save your loops and rhythm per preset is such a time saver.
You will get the advantages of 32-bit audio and although the RC 30 is really good, you will quickly find its limitations and the reasons why Boss has made this new pedal.
Hi JP. Firstly thanks for the advice on the Boss pedals. As a long time user of the Beatbuddy pedal for gigs I'm loving the idea of 99 presets as I don't do on the fly looping. Could you tell me if the RC -5 or RC-500 works with the BB to include fills intros and outros? Thanks again.
Hi Steven 👋
I know that the RC-5/500 will send and receive midi and click sync, so you could set up each memory with the correct settings including the bpm and then the beat buddy should follow along.
Regarding fills intros and outros, they both have their own rhythm section and On a basic level you should be able to click the beat buddy as you always have and it will change.
The RC5 is a single track looper and the RC500 is a 2 track so with the 500 you can have it in single mode which is like verse and chorus.
Unsure if you could click the beat buddy and it would automatically switch over - maybe with midi 🤔
Please let me know if that’s what you mean?
My best advice is grab one from my link and then you always have a great returns policy if it doesn’t do what you want. 👍🏻
Thanks for the information JP. Just watching some of your other videos to get a better oversight of the pedals. I might well do that. Cracking vids.
Thank you 🙏
Hiya! Takes so much time to figure out a new loop station!! Thank you for your help. I'm afraid the answer is no as I haven't found it anywhere, but is it possible to delete a loop without it playing back for a second? I want to delete it in silence, this was possible on the very old RC-20XL looper...
Yes you can. There is more than one way to do this. Simply, if your not saving that loop to the memory, then just temporarily change memories and it’s gone. Very useful to have a fs-6 or fs-7 pedal for this.
Additionally there is a clear option where you don’t hear the audio but again that is assigning a pedal to do so. Or get an expression pedal to control the volume of the loops and just pull the volume down as you clear.
A few different ways to do it.
Hope this helps.
Thank you so much
@@JohnPaulMusicUK
Actually, I'm referering to the RC-5, not the 500
Are you able to manage/recall named loops through an external digital source ie phone or iPad with RC 5?
Hey Ed.
Are you asking to change the memory number by an iPhone or iPad.
you would need an app that can send midi messages to do that but it is possible.. have a look at Touch OSC app on iOS.
Bit of a learning curve but you could send a midi message that way to change the memory function.
Hey Ed.
This might be your solution if you don’t want midi cables running everywhere
geni.us/CMWidiMaster
Can you change the location of a saved loop? Example: song on location 67, I want to move to location 41. Can this be done?
RC5
Can you connect a Boss RC5 to a DAW with midi and use a loop on LogicPro for instance ?
Hey Walter 👋
So if you want to use a saved loop that’s in the machine in a DAW you would connect the RC-5 to a computer using the USB and use Boss’ Tone Studio to help transfer, backup and recover the loop to your computer.
If you want to control the RC-5 via midi, then you use the TRS midi cable to your computer.
Hope that makes sense.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK yes it's clear. Thank You.
so with the rc 5 there is an A and B for each memory bank. can the drums be completely different on A and B...for doing a slow song that changes to fast?
Good question.
Answer is not really. It is an A/B variation of the pattern you choose.. but, if you had an external foot switch connected, you could assign that to the tempo and change that on the fly.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK can you simply have the same beat pattern change from say 100 bpm to 160 bpm
what is the best way to convert and upload previously recorded audio tracks to 32 bit 44.1 khz into the boss rc-5? I cant seem to upload anything that i have previously recorded from another source.
What are you running? PC or Mac?
I am running PC
hallo from greece !! i bought rc-5 .I create some music and when i try to take ιτ my computer it was ok except the sound of the drums it WAS NOT there....only guitars!! can you help me about it? Thank you.
Hello 👋
Please watch this video
I hope it helps.
czcams.com/video/pBUyIajS_BY/video.html
I currently own an RC-30. One of my frustrations has always been is that when you use the rhythms in the unit, it isn't recorded as a part of the loop. Has this remained the same with the RC-5 and RC-500? Thank You!
So this is a yes and a no.. No, its not part of the loops in the sense that its not recorded on loop 1 or 2 however this time round, each rhythm is saved (kind of like a loop 3) with the kit and rhythm to each memory. So with the RC-5 and RC-500 its kind of a yes.
Hope that makes sense 😆
@@JohnPaulMusicUK In another video somebody said the rhythm can actually be saved to a loop in the rc 500. I haven't tried yet so not sure it's true... but I suppose it could be useful if it really is possible.
Have a look at this video Peter - czcams.com/video/BunZH2Vnbno/video.html
Hey John, watched a lot of your RC-500 videos in search for a specific question.
Read the manual and been working with the pedal the last four hours.
Where is the AUTO-RECORD function? and how do I turn it on?
used it on my boss-rc 2 for years... but now it seems it's now on this rc-500???
please need some help.
FOUND IT! memory button-> -> rec turn button till auto rec-> turn it on ;)
Wow.. you beat me to it! Hehe. Glad you found it.
Just REMEMBER with the new Rc-5 and RC-500 a lot of the functions are PER memory, not system. 👍🏼
Hi 🙂 thanks for the video 🙂
Is there anything like ditto + (to electronic) “dynamic loop length” on the rc 5 (or the rc10r?)
On the ditto plus you can record your 4 bar loop then dub a solo over it for 16 bars and your total loop will now be 16 bars rather than the original 4. If the rc5 can do this it would be amazing!! 😄
Hey Colin 👋
Yes.. so the new RC-5 & RC-500 loopers have that so you can make a 4 bar loop on track one, then press select track, switch over to track 2 and record a 16 bar and track one will copy 4x. 👍🏻
Boss rc-5 - geni.us/Bossrc5
Boss rc-500 - geni.us/Bossrc500
@@JohnPaulMusicUK But the RC-5 only has one track??
Ahhhh.. apologies.. was looking at the RC-500. Oops.
Yeah it’s one phrase on the rc5.
Sorry.
When you import your loop into your computer, does it come out as one single wave? It would be nice if each layer had its own wave. The Korg Kaossilator 2S is the only looper that I have seen that creates a wave for each layer. This would be extremely useful to import into a DAW for further editing. This could be used to clean things up or simply expand your ideas. What are your thoughts?
No one is making CZcams videos on how to use the USB into your DAW. Alex Hutchins mentions it in his review of the RC-5 but there is nothing else about this feature. Maybe this would be something you could make a overview video on. We don't need step by step instructions but it would be nice to know what you can do with it live and importing into a DAW.
Cheers
Hey. 👋
Sorry I haven't replied with everything going on.
so.. I made a video about this that I have only just released.
hope this answers your questions but yes it saves as separate loops for track 1 and track 2 but not separate overdubs.
have a look at the video and get back to me.
czcams.com/video/pBUyIajS_BY/video.html
I have been using a boss rc2 looper since they first came out. I am thinking about upgrading to the rc500 for 2 reasons:- 1. I use stereo guitar effects and 2:- I want to use a microphone so I can loop djembe and woodwind. Question:- Does the rc500 have 5/8 time signature rhythms? My band uses that time signature a fair bit.
Hey.
Yeah great shout and regarding the rhythms here’s what it can do:
2/4-4/4-7/4, 5/8-15/8
So lots to choose from and 5/8 is there.
👍🏻
Grab it here: amzn.to/2V3oT0F
I’m really surprised they didn’t include 3/4. Wtf?!?
Sorry. My bad.
There are loads including 3/4.
When I put the hyphen in between the time signatures I meant from and to b it that wasn’t clear.
3/4 is there.
Can you use the RC-500 as an Audio Interface?
Yes you can. 👍🏻
does the RC500 have count in like the Aeros loop studio?
the RC-500 has a play count in and a record count in, both one bar.
you can find this in the parameter guide on page 6.
hope that helps? 👍🏻
Hi everyone! I have an issue with RC-5 & Rc-505. When using the loopers as midi clock slave devices, synced to Maschine software, there are glitches / artefacts all over the place. BOSS recommends to turn Tempo Sync off for each track to avoid those issues, but this led to another issue (tracks start / skip bars / stop randomly). SO that was not a solution. I have contacted BOSS about this, they said they tested it with Ableton and it works fine, but in general their loopers dont like to be slaved. However, no matter how i put the MIDI settings on the looper, nothing helps. Is this also the case with RC-500?
firmware update available for the RC-5/500
czcams.com/video/pBUyIajS_BY/video.html
I suspect the 505 is the one that goes wrong here, I tried a few things with the 505 (mkII) and MIDI and the thing keeps on crashing.
I'm curious about the 5 and 500, are they stable or a bit laggy and buggy as well?
What about "serial" and "sync" mode, like on the DITTO X4?...you know, having two very seperate / different parts, or on the other hand, having them play together at the same time?...and can you, say, record 4 bars on part one and 8 bars on part two?...and what about "time signature"?...how deep can you with it on those units?...really would like to be able to have different time signatures for each part!!...
- Serial and sync modes - yes you can and saves per memory
- Different bar lengths - yes you can
- Different time signatures - yes it has.
So... yes, yes & yes. 😉
And each of these can be different and saved per memory. 👍🏻
I was wondering if you'd know if possible . My rc 500 is turned on when i put my headphone jack into the output/power jack but not when i put a jack lead from that same output into my focusrite sapphire its like its just not getting enough power or something. Any chance you know why it works with headphones but not the external soundcard?
That is weird. The Jack is basically the ‘on’ switch.
So is the RC-500 plugged into mains or running off the battery?
Are you using a mono lead for the Safire or stereo jack? Try mono.
It's plugged in using a multi plug i got for my pedal board. I will have a go at a different cable. I think it is a stereo cable yeh. Thanks for your response!
Yeah, try a mono cable as that’s what output it is anyways. 👍🏼
Legend!! It works!! Thank u!! I will be checking out your loop videos btw. I could do with a bit of training in how this thing works. Thanks again!!
Keep an eye out on my website as I will be launching something special VERY soon to do with looping!
Sign up here: www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk
how do you compare the rc500 TO THE LOOPERBOARD
That’s a really difficult question.
Firstly The Looperboard is a HUGE device, physically and in features.. with 4 stereo loops, almost unlimited routing, multi fx, backing track capability and much much more!
It’s not fair to the RC500 to compare it.The Looperboard is better IMO but that’s because it is in a very elite league with only the Aeros Loop Studio for competition.. but that’s reflexive of the price!
The RC-500 is the best 2 track looper Boss have brought out and a CLEAR successor to the RC-30.
Which one to buy?
Good question!
Here’s the playlist of all the videos I’ve done of the RC-5 and RC-500 so far.
Hope it helps: czcams.com/play/PLO36LpORUSaa2hQEKtoW-FyuhOBCwlfRs.html&si=bDHfWHRJRozw8p27
The only thing you must know about the rc500 is that it doesn't do verse/chorus. Due to a bug you can't have different lengths verse and chorus in sync with the rhythm
Two rc500 can make 4 track with chaining or just 4 chanel in 2 tracks?
Yes you would get 4 tracks and you can chain them and non match them together. 👍🏻
@@JohnPaulMusicUK thanks for me it’s and insrant buy !
Cant find literature on how to use an external foot switch to assign for instance "erase all". How is this done without an external pedal? Pressing buttons?
Here is a the full parameter guide (which is separate to the user manual) for the Rc-500 - there is also one for the RC-5 as well.
static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/RC-500_Parameter_eng01_W.pdf
@@JohnPaulMusicUK thank you.. can I use a tc helicon switch 3 type pedal or does it have to be midi? Also, how do you erase a loop without an external switch? Thanks in advance.
You can use an external so the switch 3 would work - to erase a loop, hold down stop for more than 2 seconds.
Page 4 of the manual - static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/RC-500_eng01_W.pdf
@@JohnPaulMusicUK sorry. How did I miss that!!!🤦♂️ Wish it was an “all erase” and not just selected track
@@zingsthings I did see a place where you can do a factory reset, but it gives you the option to just reset the saved loops..
Here is the question I need answered. My trio has been using the Digitech stereo looper and we have created about 50 percussion tracks on that device. I also have these 16 bit 44.1 WAV files backed up on my computer. We have switched to creating percussion loops (usually one measure), in Presonus Studio One 5. I am very dissatisfied with the Digtech software (which has not been updated for years) because it will not recognize the SO loops for transfer to a memory location on the looper. I need to be able to copy these phrases over to the RC-5 and have each one assigned to a specific memory location so f I need a specific loop, say a bossa nova rhythm, I can go to that specific location ex. loop # 15, and activate that loop while we play.
This is probably not the typical purpose of a looper but it works really well for us. 99 memory locations will give us more space than we need and loop length is not a consideration. We just need to be able to bring up a specific phrase and have it loop as we play. Can that be done with this device thru the USB connection and is there software that comes with the RC-5 that allows that transfer from computer to the device. Thanks.
Could you please answer the question. My buying decision depends on it. Thanks.
Hey John.
Sorry, I’m not a full time CZcamsr and still have a day job so im not on here every day.
So.. to answer your question - yes.. you can do exactly that. Have each beat on each memory so you can go to a memory (or phrase) and it will be there.
Have a look at page 16 of the manual here - static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/RC-5_reference_eng01_W.pdf
It uses the software called BOSS TONE STUDIO where you can put each sample on each memory.
A little bit of setting up but you can give each one a name which is super helpful instead of remembering numbers. 👍🏻
Also, there is nothing to stop you looping on top of the phrase live - say you want to add some real live claps on top of the beat you have - you can overdub 👍🏻
Really hope that helps you bud 👍🏻
@@JohnPaulMusicUK it does and thank you for every much for taking the time to respond to my important question
You’re welcome 👍🏻
trying to plug in my sm57 to input a mono, but it's not recording anything? any idea why that's not working?
Hey. so using an XLR to mono jack iunput?
@@JohnPaulMusicUK thanks for replying. yeah switched to mono and it's working okay i think just the focusrite scarlet has weak headphone output? not even a headphone amp is helping at this point.
Wow.. really? That’s not good!
@@JohnPaulMusicUK yes sadly I can't recommend the focusrite scarlet 2i2 and at this point i might just run a boss singer live amp straight into my daw
Hi, if you have followed a Looper like rhiendhart you will know he uses his loop pedal as a midi clock sent to his groove box to add some atmosphere to his existing loops.
Would this kinda thing work with the boss rc 500 too? I'd get the 505 but I don't need 5 loop tracks for what I do
Hey Saf 👋
Yes it will. The RC-500 can control other devices via midi. Have a look at the manual on page 21 here - static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/RC-500_eng01_W.pdf
Good intro, though 1/3 of total video was pushing marketing about SLAP platform commercial... not cool at all.
A creator has to pay the bills I guess.
Can I use the Rc 5 as an audio interface?
I was wondering the same thing.
No. The USB is there for transferring of loop data and firmware updates. That’s all though I’m afraid.
Great video John! I'm now subscribed to your channel... Looking forward to getting my RC500 from Sweetwater in a couple of days. I have been using the RC30 and now realize how outdated it has become! I'm sure your tutorials will help me to get up and going with better looping techniques in no-time... Many thanks to you!
Welcome aboard! Here is the playlist of everything I have done with the RC-5/500 so far for you to sink your looping teeth into. Enjoy and hit me up with any questions! czcams.com/play/PLO36LpORUSaa2hQEKtoW-FyuhOBCwlfRs.html
Can you link the rc-5 and the rc-500 together?
Yes. I haven’t don’t it but Check out Ben Rowlands video about just that here: czcams.com/video/D-AV3DGeVts/video.html
Here’s one for ya!...Can Boss’s Boss RC-10R be synced to the Boss RC-500?...I’m so torn between the two!..they both seem to be of use for my needs by featuring what each lacks in functionality...f’_ ‘ !)
Hey 👋
Yes they can. Both of them have the mini jack midi and they can be synced where you can choose which one follows the other. 👍🏻 and then you are going to gain another loop - 3 loops! 👍🏻
Hi, just got the RC-500 and I think I'm in over my head! Is it possible to record a verse on track 1 and a chorus on track 2 and toggle between the two? Many thanks!
Hey Dave.
Yes you just need to switch one of the banks from ‘multi’ to ‘single’ mode on the Play Mode.
Select memory button and scroll till you see ‘play mode’ - select that and you should be able to change it.
Remember that setting is per memory.
Hope that helps. 👍🏻
Also for your light entertainment of reading - here is the parameter guide which is separate from the user guide to get your teeth into it.
You’ll be a pro by Christmas 🎄 👍🏻
static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/RC-500_Parameter_eng01_W.pdf
@@JohnPaulMusicUK wow, that' s perfect!
Thanks
You’re welcome 👍🏻
Just got this and I think I already broke the switches.
Has anyone else noticed that the bitrate, or quality, of the included rhythm samples becomes rather digital-sounding if you reduce the tempo significantly. This is disappointing.
Oh, no I haven’t noticed that Jeff.
How slow are we talking? My slowest song is around 70bpm
Very irritating ad halfway through!
Thing Think mixup
Thank you for the feedback 👍🏻
Agreed
This doesnt say much...seems like you have to have a degree to op it..i have one and i got a headache just trying to op it
Might want checkout this playlist. Hope it helps:
czcams.com/play/PLO36LpORUSaa2hQEKtoW-FyuhOBCwlfRs.html&si=btQlWSeEWHmtMIpU
Hey bud I made a recording , I want to overdub another guitar track with a different effect?
I don’t know why it is changing the effect on the already recorded 1st track ? Any help would be appreciated
Hey 👋
Cause the effect is a track effect on the looper not an input effect. Unless you are using an external, in which case talk to me about where you have the looper in your chain?
Thank you , I understand where I was wrong . My old ass adapting to all the technological changes is mind blowing 🤯
Nah.. nothing to do with age.. it’s either ‘leant’ or ‘un-learnt’.
You’re all good! 👍🏻