Rock Slide. Assessing the Damage.
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All the rain this past month has brought down some dangerous sized stones and has caused a lot of damage. This week we clean up all of the rocks from the rock slide, and work to prevent it from happening in the future.
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We are Heather, Bradey, Alexa and Chloe. We purchased an abandoned stone barn in the foothills of the Italian Alps and we are working together as a family to renovate and restore this old stone barn into our dream home.
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We are happy for you and your family.....love you and follow you from Lebanon 🇱🇧👍
Hi ,
this is your YT home right., so where do you really live?
Thank God you all are alright! Time to put post in and build a low wall to retain those rocks. Seen this in Japan and Korea.
@@jamebrooke894 recently rocks rained down on a car wash in our Roanoke Valley town. I wish there had been a chain link fence or some other protection in place. The car wash was was completely destroyed destroyed. 😫
So glad that it was only a few problems
You need to put the fence higher closer to the rocks so they won’t get more speed coming down
Exactly, I would start with chicken wire weaving the trees where the rocks are at
I would never put my kids in that house sorry but thats the honest truth if there is a landslide its toast
good luck you can sleep in there when a load of 400 pound boulders come down , these types of propertys need developers with big money to build new homes and not cookie cut ......no disrespect but i would never live in there
@@floridastate4604you need to stop bring a drama queen......alarmist, fake jeopardy is unhelpful...
Anyway.. a few rocks is all part of the 'lived experience' there...
Calm down!!!
@@andymccabe6712 it takes one big rock to go through though.
In a way the broken solar panel & roof tile is a blessing in disguise in that it drew your attention to securing the mountainside from falling rocks.
That’s exactly how we are viewing it!
On Maui rather than remove the rocks they mesh them in. So when it rains and mudslides they slide within the wire mesh. Stay safe. Love your channel.
We do the same in Italy, I’m sicilian and I’ve seen it a lot
@@xscarletfields and all through the Alps. 🙂
And in the Catskill Mountains along the highways as well
That makes sense. If one would remove the rocks, landslides seem more possible.
On Maui Island of course its all Basalt Lava rock we have to cut our highways through! Both coastal roads are closed often due to rockslides. The roads to Lahaina and Hana, use at your own risk. They are beautiful views though.
You might also thread a chain-link fence through the existing trees at the top. Their trunks will be much more sturdy than posts.
Excellent Idea!
What an excellent idea! Yes, for sure.
Colorado girl her, my ¢2, don’t use the trees. With that much rain their roots become unstable and can fall over just from strong windstorm. Adding fences and the tremendous weight of falling rocks would only make things worse. IMHO.
Great advice!!
Greetings from California. As one that spent 50+ years in construction a chain link fence is very good idea. But do not just put it straight across. Build it as a "V" so that the rocks shed themselves to the sides and not trap them. Maybe consider one or two, one directly behind your home and one on the next tier up. Make sure that the supports for the fence are buried deep enough to hold. May the Lord continue to protect and bless you. Get good hep for this. The chain link fence is only as good as the supports.
This, you don't just want to catch them but divert them around the building / property area.
Angle the falling rocks onto the neighbours
Fabulous advice! Bless you.
Where I live , the engineers use giant chain link curtains that are anchored to the ground to stop loose boulders from hitting road infrastructure once they break away from the mountainside. It doesn't prevent the fall of these rocks , the steel curtain causes a safe descent by slowing the speed and bouncing.
we can also direct loose boulders by making lines - sth like up-side-down Y shaped line that omit the house, a barrier made of stones.
Or - covering the roof with soil/hiding the house underneath/ so the possible loose ground, stones or snow jump over the roof
That would cost more than they paid for the house
I’ve seen chicken wire wrap anchored around large outcrop of stones like that. You see things like that near Highway in Pennsylvania and Tennessee
STOP PULLING THOSE ROCKS OUT OF THE WALL……YOU WILL CAUSEA ROCK SLIDE….PUT A BREAK-FENCE UP IN FRONT OF IT!
@@Noname-cn4ly Please, stop yelling.
Also, maybe steel mesh in front of the terraces as opposed to removing the rocks to avoid landsides. Leslie mentioned it
You ARE moving forward. Mitigating the threat of the rock slides has to be done sooner than later. Prevention is well worth more than a pound of cure.
Thank you 😊
Brady, it is time to get some extra workers. Ask the church for references. Don't hurt your back; your dear family needs you! Blessings
If you continue to take the rocks out of their original position, the rainwater will loosen the soil, and it will have a domino effect on the rocks above them. You will have a bigger problem on your hand.
HE's doing his own version of Dumb and Dumber....lolol
These are rather cruel comments. If you want them to leave the loose rocks, at least give some suggestions how to stabilise them in position. Perhaps digging a slight hole for them can help.
It is certainly a massive & costly problem. I wish I had a solution. Knowing the family, he has already spoken t pros for suggestions. They Leave no stone unturned🙃
Absolutely- i cringe with moving those rocks. Actually vines & green growth likevtrees are good & absorb the excess water. Removing those will certainly de- stabilize the bank more. Looks as tho there is a bank cut out from prior landslides & prone so...
Reinforce the banks & secure the rocks using heavy duty construction materials to net the loose ones. Plant vines. Secure as advised by observers writing in. The house postion is very prone so that should be a high priority. Do not remove the plants nor the stones placed in walls. frightful indeed at this point.
These are already loose rocks. They should be removed for safety reasons. He needs groundcover to stabilize the soil and drainage to prevent rainwater from saturating the earth enough to cause a landslide. A couple retaining walls would be advisable as well but I think a drainage system is the most important.
It was good that just small damage happened as it gives you a chance to prepare and hopefully prevent larger damage. Honestly with each video, as lovely as the area is, I have wondered about the potential risk of landslide. Did you ever obtain a risk assessment of the land for this possibility before you bought it? Or talk with any geologist about how to maintain the terraces to maximize safety? Who owns the land above yours?
The best comment so far.
You could try meshing in the rock stands. We use this method in India especially is the mountain areas most prone to landslides and earthquakes.
A similar method is used in Canada in the Rocky Mountains and along the Coastal Mountains. Giant chainlink mesh curtains.
Could they build a curtain to catch the rocks just before their house? Is there a fence post style that could withstand it? Rebar reinforced concrete wide posts with eye hooks and a fence in between? Is that enough to catch the big ones?❤
@@TheHappinessOfThePursuit The curtain would lay against the rock face much higher up the mountainside way before they would come anywhere near the house levels.
Be careful pulling out them rocks because others might come loose and cause you serious injury..
@@TheHappinessOfThePursuit yes the idea is good but it takes a lot of money, just to defend the area of the house it would take thousands if not tens of thousands of €
Normally in Italy you are obliged to incorporate a reinforced concrete chain around the top of your wall plan when restoring property . Most of Italy is subject to seismic activity, especially the mountains !
I'm no expert but I would think those rocks are holding the mountain back and I don't think I'd be moving them without professional advise.
How about grouting (or something like it) the stones together, fill up the spaces between stones to hold them in place. I wouldn't remove them.
uckily no one was hurt!❤
For the moment to stabilize the crumbling rocks, instead of carrying them down you can dig small holes behind large trees or groups of small trees and put the stone there, this will prevent it from falling off the cliff.
Please learn never to touch the rocks with your bare hands in the summer (especially from retaining walls and piles of rocks in the sun), in the area where you live it is full of vipers, teach even the girls not to do it, it's really dangerous! If it goes well, a biacco (italian harmless snake) comes out, but if it goes wrong and a viper bites you, then there are problems! Also find out which is the closest medical center that has the anti-viper serum, it is always good to know when you live in mountain areas, I hope it's never necessary, but it's always a good thing to know first.
I hope you really pay attention and heed this warning. I am in Ohio and snakes are not a big problem in town or an apartment. But there is a reason snakes are feared and looked down upon. The words "sneaky snake" come to mind. Please be watchful. I just found your channel about a month ago and really enjoy it. I am an 82 year old gma and have to live vicariously through your (and others) videos. Thank you for posting your adventures in life.
As far as viper bites are concerned, something like a sucction device is better than the serum. We used to have the serum, but a doctor told us to get this device, since it's as effective and does not have the side effects.
You are scaring me pulling those rocks out like that.. That could cause a landslide!
scary dangerous stuff, expensive work ahead.
The most important is nobody injured! Maybe you can use some rocks and the material you removed from house floor and construct a barrier, we are with you guys!
The big rock at the 9:50 mark should just be split in half. It is already naturally split. If you lower a rock’s center of gravity and lay it flat then it won’t roll. Also stop taking rocks out of the middle of the wall as that compromises the wall and makes more yolks loose.
I don't understand why he wouldn't: stop moving the rocks, & why he didn't wedge the big boulder between some tree trunks for the immediate future. Common sense.
Hi - love getting to know you and your girls! I gave t caught all your earlier vlogs, but I’m terrified watching g you walk around the terraces. My heart is in my throat and my stomach is so nervous, I’m always holding my breath. Does the camera make your walking around lol more dangerous??
I know you’re very careful! I’m just a 75 year old grandma whose loving watching you and your girls ❤️ Best wishes o your life journey and stay safe❤️
Exactly!!! What Pete said. Don’t take rocks out of the walls. They’ve been standing for centuries without falling downhill.
You need to reposition the rocks- not take them off the mountain
I thought the rock are suppose to be reinforce rather than taking out so the soil near / underneath are in no danger of getting loose and creating a landslide, especially when it's rain when the soil are heavier seeping all the water.
If I could give you folks a million likes on every video, I would. ❤❤ Keep on keepin on. You folks rock! Much love to your family & YOU.
You should run a catch fence at every level and utilize the trees for supporting the mesh. You will also need a heavier gauge of wire . Enjoy your videos.Good luck to you.
So sorry about your solar panel getting damaged. Also, a good idea would be for you not to take rocks out of the centers of the terraced walls. That will cause degeneration of the walls. You might do as folks do in other mountainous areas and put up netting so that any rocks that fall will fall into the netting. Good luck with the process. Looking forward to your next videos.
you might want to install a metal net above the house near the tree line or within the trees, it would stop or slow down an impact.
Definitely will be doing both!!
@@RaisingVoyagers also some nice bushes, several lines of them, on the terraces just above the house, so that they would help to slow down rocks if the pass the first metal net fence.
The biggest rocks you can’t move could be supported up more with rebar and concrete or other rocks placed under them, this is what a farmer friend of mine did in a rocky location on his hillside farm.
The rock pile can be secured in place with the same steel fencing wrapped tight around the rocks and heavily anchored into the base mountain. Like a cargo net. Add some grout then those rocks will never move and will actually stabilize that entire section. Add more rocks, more fencing, more grout. You're even more secure.
Just FYI for your garden-Leaves should be left for 2 yrs to become mulch. More important, you need to add lime to the mulch to reduce the acidity of the leaves. Wishing you great gardening.
You guys are so lucky nobody got hurt or killed! 😱😖 A stone falling so fast is so dangerous. The locals probably have some smart solutions, maybe you can ask your neighbors? Maybe plant a tree barrier between the rocks and your house? 🤔 Stay safe out there, guys! 💖
What a blessing that this problem raised it's head now rather than when you actually live there. Impressive to see you guys dealing with the issue right away! Safety above all, especially with the kids. Well done guys!
In these crazy times, joining your family on your quest on this beautiful mountain is the perfect salve for the soul. I discovered your videos last night and could not stop watching. I am fascinated with the whole process of bringing the house and the surroundings back to life, and your family is charming as well. I think I am in it for the long haul. Good luck to you, and thanks for letting us come along on your journey.❤
So happy everyone is safe. You're coping skills and plans to rectify all the issues that arise are very impressive! I absolutely love every one of your videos. ❤
I am so sorry to hear about your troubles. I am also glad that no one has been injured.
Life is a risk ... BUT (warning: negativity inbound) ...
Trying to live/shelter below an active rock fall may not be a risk anybody should undertake willingly? Other living/shelter options may be worth evaluating?
Unless you have unlimited financial resources, consider a personal safety and financial risk re-assessment with this new information?
Can these natural ballistic objects realistically be halted from endangering your beautiful family in the future?
Although there was damage, it could have been so much worse. At least this apprised you of an issue that needed addressed. In life, it’s always something to challenge us. That’s one thing that keep life exciting. 😊
You guys are amazing! Keep up the wonderful work! The scenery is glorious! Love how you now appreciate the bees!
Some of your terraces need re levelling on the tops, the slopes are also enabling the rocks to travel more or less srtaight down.
Be careful, it is not safe to put your hands between the rocks, especially if the terraces are exposed to the sun, there is the risk of being bitten by a viper.
I believe he is very intelligent, but has a lot to learn.
Hey Brady, the biggest rock u showed us on the top if the hill that Heather said it s not going anywhere, it’s only a matter of time, I suggest u plant some chestnut trees around to act as a natural brace for it. It a big tree to handle.
In stone terraces, one solution is to tie the entire rock structure with a net. Basically, a net is placed in front of the rocks to keep them (ultimately you keep the rocks in place) in and then they gradually settle down with the vegetation. Here in Lazio in some hilly/mountainous areas this is done
I live in Emilia, close to the places that went flooded by the rivers 'cause the excessive rain - the zone where I live has been flooded several years ago (for the same reason). We are used to solve these problem by ourselves, even BEFORE the goverment sends help - and so we did that time, just like this one. But as Italian, my heart is bleeding seeing the damage you had in your property, I'd like to come there to help you... Thank God there have been no injuries, walls and panels can always be fixed. You're gonna be fine, guys! 😘
It was good fortune that one rock causing limited damage presented a potentially dangerous situation. Thank you small rock :)
Love your journey , however I was alarmed as soon as I saw that barn location. As an engineer I strongly suggest you to build a retaining wall. It might be a good idea to combine building a retaining wall with your water proofing needs on the back of your house. Best wishes
Here in California specially Malibu they wrap the hillside with mesh type material and the sandbags that are supposed to slow down water also help secure the sliding rocks. You are doing the right thing inspecting the area and putting a link fence. For now! Good luck! We wish you the best!
You are certainly not alone right now in that part of Italy in trying to stabilize the mountainside. Let’s hope these rains are an anomaly and that normal rainfall will reestablish next spring. But if the climate is on a new path ( likely) your fence will be a good safety measure. I live in an area in Canada with some sheer limestone cliffs and our municipality has to constantly remediate the normal erosion patterns. They have fencing and draping of strong netting to slow down and trap any rockfalls. Good luck!
I found your wonderful vlog a week ago, and have been following your stone house reno since then. The loose stones on mountainside very serious. I'm glad there was minimal damage to the stone house and none of you were harmed. I immediately thought of the heavy mesh that is used in the mountainous coastal highways on the British Columbia coast of Canada. This mesh is installed right on top of the problematic rock to prevent rock damaging or destroying the highway and, God forbid, preventing loss of life. I hope you will explore this with an engineer as the Alps' highways must use technology for mountain containment. Be well. Take care. Happy Springtime in the Italian Alps.
Whoa, scary. Safety first. We are all behind you.😮😮😮
In any case i would consider mud slides aswell.
Good morning
Here in canada in the rockies they place up netting. Mainly to prevent rock slides on the highways. A much cheaper expense.
Love your channel.
So sorry for that cost intensive damage, you're so brave to tackle the worst of the rocks all by yourself.
Hello Eliane where are you from?
I believe that you have been given sign after sign after sign not to rebuild but you have overcome obstacles beyond comprehension I wish you all the best!
Get the heck out of there and protect your family!
Sorry about your solar panel, but if you call the Manufacture where you got it from and tell them your story, they might send you a replacement one. or at least discounted warranty one. Good Luck.
So sorry to see the rock falls and damage it caused. Take care and God bless
Thanks god u were not injured...
Commenting for support. All the best 🙏🏼💚
Feeling for you guys. Hang in there. Best of luck ... safety first for sure. God bless you guys.
Wow!!! Raising Voyagers.
Yes this is a wake up call.
Urgently a strong barrier is needed to prevent future rocks from rolling down to your property.
Yes good you need professional advice to construct a strong Barrier to prevent such incident,
God bless.
Thank God no one is injured.
And the damage is minimal.
So worried for you guys.
Congratulations, Guys!!!... I have been following the process of renovating the house, you are doing a beautiful job... I recommend making a stone wall with cement that blocks the landslides of the mountain where the water can also drain . They can raise the terrace that is before the solar panels a little higher, make a wooden railing where the stairs are, it is safer. Greetings from Israel. 💝
Sorry to hear about your dilemma, when you look at places like Austria near railway lines, these structures are super heavy, the other thing is the further you go down to create the barrier fence the more speed these rocks will gain
Im so glad no one was hurt! The fence will definitely slow them down until u can figure out what to do! Pleas stay safe while trying to move those monster rocks!😮😮😮😮😮
Good luck with a permanent solution… just “wrapping” the the loose areas in fencing and long pinning it into the hillside, then some double fencing at the tree line is a good plan…
you should grow 2 rows of some big trees just 20 feet above your house
Liz , Pedro and Deneil are on the right track. KISS principle. Contain the rocks with mess and use your trees as a barracade. And leave the loose stones until you have a bucket of mortar in hand! I actually am quite a good engineer.
Guys, you were lucky!!! It is good that you are wearing your hats to protect yourselves from the sun.
Yikes! We’re more at Mother Nature’s mercy than ever. Be safe. 🙏❤️
I'm surprised that you were able to get a permit for that project. I thought that Italian bureaucratic red tape was supposed to be strict (?). It would seem that to obtain a permit to convert an animal shed into a home on a steep slope in earthquake country would be impossible.
Thankful you are all safe. ❤
Kept seeing the rain in the news and wondering how it was affecting you guys up there! You guys amaze me with your determination and how you just cope with whatever the mountain throws at you! Well done!
I am instantly transported to my childhood with the ringing of the bells. …a melody that’s lives inside me growing up in Bavaria at the foothills of the mountains as a child …no matter where I was I always knew what time it was❤️life is slower and is enjoyed more especially with family and outdoors always a part of the daily lives…I moved to the swamps of GEORGIA and to say it was a culture shock would be an understatement…but I’ve learned there is beauty no matter where you go in the world some not quite as obvious as others…thank you for sharing your journey with us…blessings wished
so happy no one was hurt and not a lot of damage.
My first time to watch your video and like it very much. Hence, I shared it to friends!
The house has evidently been there a long time, so it's odd that its now in danger of rocks falling on it. The thought that it could get to the point where it's too dangerous to live there came to my mind when I watched the first video. I wonder what's at the top of the hill. Maybe it would have been better to build a new house on top of the hill, but then you would have to deal with the cost and the Italian authorities to try and get permission. My opinion, from what I see of this situation, is that they need an engineer to draw up a plan to secure the whole area and a construction crew to do the work. With all the loose rocks that are a danger that could come crashing down, it looks like more than this family will be able to deal with. Since they have put in so much time, money and work, it would be sad to abandon the project, but they should consider the danger to their lives.
It was not built as a house. It was never a house.
I'm with you here. When I fell on the first video, my first reaction was: I would never ever buy a house in this perilous position. I admire the work you accomplish but the place is not really risk free. As I mentioned in another comment, we are living in the pyrenean mountains where the overall situation is very similar to yours, same climate, same mountain formations. We've been living there for over 40 years and seeing your house, I kind of went...ooops, hope they are not getting as much water as we do here. My first criterium when looking for our off grit place was, mountains yes, but a place where we will be safe from this kind of incident. After a long search we had the chance to find a large flat place at nearly 3000 feet on a the flank of 6500 feet mountain on a very large outcrop. I also wanted our kids to have a big space to roam without any risks.
Absolutely safety first! I understand how frustrating it must be for you but you've got this. Keep strong and keep safe.
the ones in the wall you could glue back, the ones above you could make a pit next to them and bury them or you could knock some iron bars in front of them
I love following you guys on your journey! God Bless you and all the hard work.❤
Take care guys! You face so many challenges and have nerves of steel, you’re so inspiring.
You will need a slate rip to remove the broken slate . The nails holding that broken slate are under the two slates immediately above the broken slate when the broken slate is removed it will expose the roofing lath . You need to nail a half inch wide and 6 inch or longer copper strap and into the exposed roofing lath . You can then slide a new slate up and fix it by bending the copper strap upwards over the end of the new slate . It is not possible to replace the nails without stripping the whole roof up to the ridge tiles and that is a major job. Or you can attempt to glue in the new slate so you cant see the copper strap. Professional Roofer Geoff
Thank you for sharing your professioal expertise with someone who obviously is going to need it. I just hope he reads it and heeds it.
@@bettyoliver2417you're very condescending, aren't you..... Lots of people know how to do basic roof repairs without years of professional experience... Me, for example....!
Inverted V stake fences 2nd terrace and 4th terrace above the house to deflect and redirect the stones
Be safe! Idea! Put-up nets on each terrace! Blessings
Make your solar panels taller than where rocks will fall. It can even be a new shade cover area underneath to enjoy instead of taking up land space on ground
What a Sisyphean task! I live on a daunting slope and have built some drystack walls tumbling boulders down the hill, but not like that!
Stay positive and thanks for sharing.
U always have a great and brilliant idea.....u can fixed it.....🙏👍🇱🇧
Maybe put a stake in front of that one boulder to secure it for now. ♥️
Oh wow, I am glad you are all okay! It's always something unexpected! Take care, be safe 🙏 Blessings 🙏💞
Love following your lovely journey
Love the sound of the bells
Check your area for seismic activity. What is the areas history with earthquakes? Italy has very active fault zones, being on the side of a hill would distress me there.
glad to know you are all ok the panel is replacable... maybe at the first step where the steep part is dig a trench so the rocks will land in a hole hopefully slowing the rocks down before the fence.. later gather some logs and stake them in the ground at one of the higher levels to create a block
Aww thank you so much for sharing this beautiful journey with us
Hats up to your dedication
Good job, guys! Keep working so hard, we are loving every minute of it!
Gad you are okay. One thing you must do is pour a concrete wall behind your House. You may have to repair it from time to time, but you happened a back stop for your House and future outdoor Kitchen. I know you spoke about chain link fence but rocks from height will tear through. Stone or concrete is the permanent answer. The rock that is sitting loose in the hill above the house, did a hole below it and let it roll into wet concrete with metal rods driven into the ground in the centre of the mix and It will dry into a lower hole secure in the side of the mountain.
As one with over 50+ years in the construction industry 22 the Project Superintendent the concrete wall is not good and too expensive you would have excavate down 20-40 feet and depending on how high the wall the width of the digging can be 24-36 inches, the amount of concrete would cost more than your house, especially seeing how high the concrete truck would need to drive and what would be a very narrow road. You would need a concrete pumper to get the concrete to the footing. Also it would take massive multi ton boulder falling from outer space to go through a chain link fence, at least here in America.
Been enjoying your family in Italy beautiful country side. God bless from BC Canada
Ugh! I'm glad everyone is safe. You're doing a great job of making repairs
Amazing job ❤
You could probably use some cement to stabilize some of those rock formations in situ so they will be safe
Chin up guys you will mitigate this risk like all the others you encounter. Your beautiful home is worth these challenges
Glad no one was hurt and sorry the solar panel was busted.
Beautiful there even in the rain.
Thank God that no one was injured and the house was safe. I pray no more rockslides happen❤