Is Natalie Elphicke already costing Labour? LBC callers debate latest controversy
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- čas přidán 11. 05. 2024
- Ben Kentish and Lewis Goodall debate with their calls over whether Keir Starmer should have accepted Natalie Elphicke into the Labour Party following allegations that Natalie Elphicke 'lobbied Justice Secretary over sex offender ex-husband's trial'.
1:17 - Ben Kentish says that ‘if this was a sitting Tory MP rather than a new Labour MP, this would be the biggest scandal since Watergate’.
3:43 - Caller Josh says that Keir Starmer allowing Natalie Elphicke into his party ‘was straight out the Donald Trump playbook’ and equates Keir Starmer with Trump for this ‘brilliant move’.
8:38 - “You’re getting so angry and worked up about Starmer when he probably didn’t even know about this”, caller Robert tells Ben Kentish.
14:09 - Caller Lee tells Lewis Goodall: “I think you and the commentators are missing the play here, I think it’s absolute genius from Starmer".
Labour defector Natalie Elphicke has denied claims that she tried to lobby Robert Buckland, then Lord Chancellor, over the trial of her sex offender ex-husband Charlie Elphicke.
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The Tories were perfectly happy to have her until she crossed over to Labour. You really need to consider that as well. Ben is a Tory. Bring back Sangita.
@kat Why? Or haven't you thought that bit through yet?
@chatham43 you had best stop trolling me. Go away. I've told you before, and I'm a bit fed up of repeating myself. DON'T SPEAK TO ME.
@@chatham43Is that really you Heinrich? 😊
Can we have Sangita back, please?
@ThomasKing Are you seriously for real?
@@An-Alien-On-Earth I will say what I want when I want. Sorry.
@@ThomasKing19933 No you will not
@ThomasKing Or you could keep it to yourself. That is allowed you know.
Hi Sangita bot
How come you didn’t have an issue with her when she was Tory all this time
Because she was a nobody? I don't think it should come as such a shock to you that people in the spotlight tend to face more scrutiny than randomers.
The only thing I see being undermined here is LBC's reputation for Journalism.
@jules And your background in journalism makes your critique even more telling!
@@chatham43 troll!!!!
@kat Well you can spell it..but what do you mean by trolling?
@@chatham43 I told you not to speak to me.
Bring back Sangita you cowards
She's fired, get over it
There's more to life, and LBC , than Gaza and Sanjita.
Sangita back . Now!
No! Give it a rest.
@henry Change those bedsheets...now!😊
It was a ridiculous decision even before the recent revelations. How can a right wing Tory be so easily accommodated into Labour?
A moderate Tory (if such a thing still exists) could perhaps find themselves a more comfortable berth within this historically right wing incarnation of Labour, but Natalie Elphicke?
Sheesh!!!
Exactly 🤦♀️
Yep. Let’s not forget, One Nation Conservatives are also right wing. Elphicke, however, is ERG - that is the FAR RIGHT of the Conservative Party.
*_"How can a right wing Tory be so easily accommodated into Labour?"_*
The Tory press is ranting on about Labour, when this is really a story about how awful the Tories are. It's telling all the Tory voters that there's a place for them voting for Labour, as Elphicke is not standing in the General election and her only role will be to do with strategy on housing, possibly immigration. If they had refused to have her, the Tory press (which is 90% of all UK press) would be blathering on about how Labour are _"soft on immigration"._ The only _raison d'etre"_ of any Opposition is to throw the Tories out, by whatever legal means necessary.
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Ooooohhhh
The far right boogieman
@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 Don't be so ridiculous. If Labour "refused to have her" then it seems rather unlikely that she would broadcast that. Though regardless, if she did (or it was leaked), I think it's rather obvious that the reaction would be "obviously they won't have her - she's a right wing Tory".
It seems equally ridiculous to suggest that the Tory press will now stop claiming that Labour are "soft on immigration" because they've temporarily admitted a Tory MP who they are going to ditch at the next election, who may or may not try and have an influence on immigration policy behind the scenes.
Terrible decision. He should have refused her entry. She could have gone independent to hurt Sunak which was her real goal.
The Tory press is ranting on about Labour, when this is really a story about how awful the Tories are. It's telling all the Tory voters that there's a place for them voting for Labour, as Elphicke is not standing in the General election and her only role will be to do with strategy on housing, possibly immigration. If they had refused to have her, the Tory press (which is 90% of all UK press) would be blathering on about how Labour are _"soft on immigration"._ The only _raison d'etre"_ of any Opposition is to throw the Tories out, by whatever legal means necessary.
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Next we will hear Boris Johnson is running a labour party he likes a party😂😂
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Bring back Sangita....
Give it a rest! 🥱🥱🥱🥱
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Got to love the Tories. They knew who she was and said nothing. Now mud is flying and they're suddenly outraged that she's a snake. Jog on.
The Tory press is ranting on about Labour, when this is really a story about how awful the Tories are.
Allowing Elphicke to join Labour is telling all the Tory voters that there's a place for them voting for Labour, as Elphicke is not standing in the General election and her only role will be to do with strategy on housing, possibly immigration. If they had refused to have her, the Tory press (which is 90% of all UK press) would be blathering on about how Labour are _"soft on immigration"._
The only _"raison d'etre"_ of any Opposition is to throw the Tories out, by whatever legal means necessary.
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Keir Starmer's welcoming acceptance on to the Labour benches of Natalie Elphicke given her history in the Conservative Party leaves a bad taste for any long time Labour supporters. If Starmer wonders why people doubt his true Labour credentials, then he should look no further than this.
Lack of common sense and total lack of principles. Starmer shows what a poor politician he is time and time again.
You seem to lack the critical thinking skills to see past the optics. She’s not running in the next election so will not be a Labour Party member plus this shows the people that have the same opinions as her that they too can vote for the Labour Party. It’s the first steps to unifying the country
@Cornodebassetto And you seem to lack common courtesy.
I know full well Elphicke will not be standing as a candidate for the Party formerly known as the Labour Party or any other. But, the optics look very bad. All this furore seems to have achieved is that even moderates in the LP are wondering what the difference is between the two major political parties. It's very similar to the US where one can barely slip a cigarette paper between Republicans and Democrats.
Still 40 points ahead of the Tories though. 😆 🤣
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Starmer is showing very astute political acumen.
The Tory press is ranting on about Labour, when this is really a story about how awful the Tories are. It's telling all the Tory voters that there's a place for them voting for Labour, as Elphicke is not standing in the General election and her only role will be to do with strategy on housing, possibly immigration. If they had refused to have her, the Tory press (which is 90% of all UK press) would be blathering on about how Labour are _"soft on immigration"._ The only _raison d'etre"_ of any Opposition is to throw the Tories out, by whatever legal means necessary.
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If only he had a minister for common sense 😂
It’s so nice when you can just disconnect the call you don’t like, I think Josh is right on the money.
It was a ridiculous decision before these allegations came to light, she's a hard right Tory, they should never back welcome in the Labour Party.
She jumps ship, that's a win for labour. She says the Tory plan on immigration is not working and labour has a better plan, that's another win for labour. Further down the line Labour withdraw the whip, another win for labour. The whip is restored to Abbot and Corbin, two more wins for labour. That's a whole lot of wins.
@Homegrown And fairies at the bottom of your garden...another win!
@@chatham43 They live under the sign that says trespassers and Tory's will be composted!
Ben saying what happened with Trump couldn't work in the UK. Has he forgotten about Boris already?!
1:24. She WAS a Tory MP when this happened, and the tories covered it up!!!!!
The first caller is absolutely spot on, but the host doesn't want to hear it. We need Sangita back for this discussion
Ben, useless.....
Elphick’s own words are enough to show Starmer made a mistake welcoming her into the party, the stuff with her husband is just extra 😳
Elphicke by name, ElThick by nature
@czar You haven't wasted your Sunday Excellent work!
The guy suggesting instant by-elections when an MP defects is absolutely spot on. The voters voted for the party for the most part not the person so their choice should come first 🤔
That’s not how it works, sorry. These constituencies need to do a better job of picking their MPs
This calker is right ...why not do the bad press when she was in tories and now she is the snake in labour
No there is only one message. If SHE COME TO Labour he showing anyone can vote for them!
It is the story Buckland needs to resign Got 2 for the price of 1.
Well she came away from the losing side!!!! 😂😂😂😂
UK politics gets more ludicrous every week.
The story is why didn’t the Cons do something. This happened when she was a Con MP
Elphicke is now a social democrat?? Goodness, Starmer will be embracing the politics of Enoch Powell next 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What a boring cardboard cut out of a presenter
Maybe it was the plan from the Tories altogether. Giving Starmer a Trojan horse, or Starmer knew about it and has now the opportunity to act swiftly and shift the focus back to the naughty Tories. And he got his Tory head which he wanted to make Sunak nervous. He can kick her out now!
Allowing her in negates one of the few attack lines the conservatives are using, ie boats.
Nett positive for Starmer.
30 points ahead , HA HA HA
Really only works for trump here too, everyone else who has tried has failed miserably.
Free Sangita
Old news move on zzz
And it’s people like you who are the problem with modern politics, these things matter no matter how old they are 😐
Sangita please
@daniel...with a twist of lime please....
Free Palestine
Too many interruptions and complete bias.
This presenter thinks his audience are a bunch of mugs.(the first guy, not Lewis)
Elf woman?
Why not let in Teresa May and Bodger too while you're at it.
Why even bother having two parties if they don't even pretend to disagree.
Was Sangita found out for being a Hamas sympathiser?
@Canvas And what was wrong with that?
@@chatham43 it's a free world.
Heard she was belly dancing in doha for hamas last I heard
Come on! My last comment was worth a few likes!😊😊😊
Smart strategy Kier, where are we on Angela Rayner?
You would have to ask the police who are doing the investigation.
You can also ask them about the 4 Tory MPs who bought homes by expensing the mortgages and having the taxpayer foot the bill. They won't say if they paid tax on the collective profits of 5 Million. Wonder why?
@@Nice0n3 I don’t wonder why at all. They are all self serving nest featherers.
@@njh1811 Ahh, but I can't help but notice you focus on the carer who bought her house with her own money and not the MPs who used taxpayer cash to make millions in profit...
@@Nice0n3 Rewatch the clip. It’s about Starmer’s decision to accept the Tory defector. My original comment and point is that it was a smart decision because the controversy it has sparked is conveniently obscuring the Rayner issue and the fact that he hasn’t looked at her ‘evidence’. As I mentioned in my last reply I totally accept Tory MP’s have plenty to hide too but that wasn’t what the clip was about. Apologies for staying on topic..
LBC Where in front line for the jab I hope all LBC Viewers are up to date with their boosters I think LBC is a bit remiss in not pushing this it was everyday at one time!
She’s a snake. This country is finished when Starmer comes to power. As bad as the Tories are they’re still hands down the better of two evils.
Which is it then? A victim of your own cognitive bias
Utter nonsense, go away
You I'm afraid is in need of migration I suggest Ukraine it would suit you to a Azov 😊
If I was going to the Ukraine it would be to help Russia.
@@KM-iu1ls Except the country wasn't finished last time Labour were in power- in fact we were doing much better. Typical regurgitation of the right wing media's propaganda.