2021 Middleweight Naked Bikes Shootout

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  • čas přidán 14. 06. 2021
  • We last performed this public service in 2017, when your Yamaha FZ-07 prevailed over the Kawasaki Z650, Suzuki SV650, the new Harley Street Rod, and the new and indeterminate Benelli TnT 600, in that order. The FZ-07 has since morphed into the MT-07 amidst a host of well thought-out upgrades in 2018, and then again for 2021. The Z650 got a modern instrument pod in 2020 with a few other tasteful refinements, and the SV650 hasn’t changed a bit (God bless it). The Benelli is still around but didn’t get the call this time, and the H-D Street Rod has been withdrawn from the market under a hail of ridicule. Sad.
    Luckily for us all, two brand-new motorcycles have dropped into our laps for 2021 to challenge the status quo: the Aprilia Tuono 660 and the Triumph Trident. I mean three. Let’s not forget the easily forgettable Honda CB650R.
    Why is this happening?
    From Ryan Adams’ MT-07 review in 2018: “According to Yamaha, the Hypernaked category, which in these statistics include all manufacturers, is up by a staggering 260% since 2012. As supersport sales have decreased, we see these more versatile machines rise in popularity.”
    At the launch of this year’s MT, Troy learned Yamaha has sold more than 25,000 FZ/MT-07s to owners spanning age groups from 25 to 55, with most buyers in their early 30s, but only by a few percentage points.
    As the rich get richer and demand ever-more sophisticated superbikes and ADV machines but fewer of them, the time is again ripe for great motorcycles in the $8,000 range for the rest of us peasants - UJMs that no longer necessarily come from Japan. And the suddenly fierce competition in this class has happily gotten us to the current situation, where there are absolutely no stinkers left in the group.
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Komentáře • 480

  • @danielharry1075
    @danielharry1075 Před 2 lety +107

    The greatest factor when buying a sporty bike is the 'I like it'. It's that simple.

    • @gti189
      @gti189 Před rokem

      Agreed I love my MT03 and my next bike will definitely be an
      MT-07/09

  • @travatron4000
    @travatron4000 Před 3 lety +95

    0:00 - Dramatic B-Role
    1:32 - Intro
    3:25 - SV650
    4:29 - Z650
    6:40 - CB650R
    10:55 - MT07
    13:20 - Dyno Comparison
    16:05 - Tuono660
    23:20 - Trident

  • @jfess1911
    @jfess1911 Před 3 lety +41

    Thanks for pointing out that the Kawasaki may be the best fit for shorter riders while the Honda may be the best for taller ones. It is appreciated by those of us on both ends of the height spectrum! Of course, very tall riders can always change class to adventure bikes, if they are too cramped on these nakeds. Sometimes finding a motorcycle that "fits just right" is more important than squeaking out the last bit of performance.

    • @threethrushes
      @threethrushes Před 3 lety

      How can one person be on both ends of the height spectrum?

    • @jfess1911
      @jfess1911 Před 3 lety +3

      @@threethrushes Oh no! My super power has been exposed!!!!

  • @cornishreptiles
    @cornishreptiles Před 3 lety +126

    How much fairing can you have before it’s not considered naked anymore? #Tuonocheaters.

    • @Dranreb865
      @Dranreb865 Před 3 lety

      Is that a serious question?

    • @blockchainshark1392
      @blockchainshark1392 Před 3 lety +21

      @@Dranreb865 pretty sure by the amounts of likes it sure is and a good question
      And by browsing the other comments below it seems that same question is asked alot.

    • @marcoleon8515
      @marcoleon8515 Před 3 lety +2

      When you point out the windshield to a tuono owner, you always get an interesting response

    • @cornishreptiles
      @cornishreptiles Před 3 lety +2

      @@marcoleon8515 if you look at an RS660 and a Tuono next to each other there is visually very little difference. Like the first image here. www.autocarindia.com/bike-news-amp/aprilia-rs-660-tuono-660-bookings-open-in-india-420033

    • @bk83082
      @bk83082 Před 3 lety +5

      It would be cheating if the fairings were the reason they like the bike. Also, it's a website test and they can put whatever bikes they want in it. The standard ergonomics are the reason it's in this category.

  • @steve-wu7jp
    @steve-wu7jp Před 3 lety +23

    That SV had one of the best dyno charts 🤩

    • @luislaurencio
      @luislaurencio Před 2 lety +4

      Dude if you put the technology on the side and just look at suspension engine sound the sv is perfect

    • @Cheezmonka
      @Cheezmonka Před 2 lety +1

      @@luislaurencio Agreed

  • @21broadway
    @21broadway Před 3 lety +22

    I just like the way that Honda looks so much

    • @EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist
      @EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist Před 3 lety

      It is a nice looking bike, and it photographs well, too.

    • @kenmier9789
      @kenmier9789 Před 3 lety +2

      Exhaust runners a beautiful throw-back to the CB 400

    • @izzy8609
      @izzy8609 Před 2 lety

      @@kenmier9789 which part of the world calls headers runners? genuine question cause I've never heard that term before.

    • @kenmier9789
      @kenmier9789 Před 2 lety

      @@izzy8609 USA - probably a forgotten term.

  • @timbakker7248
    @timbakker7248 Před 3 lety +11

    I would love to see a middleweight+ naked bike shoutout (around 900cc)! So many great models in that range available right now!

  • @RedRa7Vg3r
    @RedRa7Vg3r Před 3 lety +33

    I personally fell in love with the look of the cb650r and bought one. I love it. Soooo much fun and so well put together

    • @kennypool
      @kennypool Před 3 lety +1

      I had a 82 cb650 I can only imagine how much fun the new one is with all that extra power.

    • @RedRa7Vg3r
      @RedRa7Vg3r Před 3 lety +2

      @@kennypool there is a definite torque dip at like 3500 to 5k but after that the bike is a lot of fun

    • @kennypool
      @kennypool Před 3 lety

      @@RedRa7Vg3r i don't recall that on the 82 model. It would pull all the way to redline , and beyond. Air cooled motor , was like riding a very fast oven. Trying to look cool in South Florida in july ain't easy.

    • @RedRa7Vg3r
      @RedRa7Vg3r Před 3 lety +1

      @@kennypool yeah emissions I think is the issue. Seen yammie noob do a power commander and he said it fixes that dip

    • @monkmoto1887
      @monkmoto1887 Před 3 lety +4

      @@RedRa7Vg3r it would definitely smooth it out but a flash would give it a little more on top and in the mid range along with the pipe and pair valve delete. My advice, if a flash tune is available for your bike just get the tune. It’ll run better, it’ll have more benefits than the pc like changing thermometer temp or removing low gear power limiters, and it’ll make more power than the PC. Some new bikes can just electronically delete the pair valve and servo so you don’t even need block off plates or relays. Also the ecu is going to be as easy or easier to remove than a power commander will be to install. On top of all that, some of the power commander maps are suspect. Where as a good flash tune for your bike has been thoroughly developed. I’ll never buy another power commander if I have a choice.

  • @Tiax776
    @Tiax776 Před 3 lety +51

    SV 650 needs better brakes and LED lights & indicators. Then Suzuki could sell it for the next 10 years without too many changes... Just put the GSX-S 750 front end with upside down forks on it and those brakes... Just a hint, Suzuki...

    • @MH5tube
      @MH5tube Před 3 lety +12

      I mostly agree but damn, I am ride or die for that round headlight

    • @traviswrigg5158
      @traviswrigg5158 Před 3 lety +7

      It's so frustrating that the SV650 just needs minor updates to be amazing, but Suzuki just refuses to make them. It's without question my favorite engine of the bunch, and if they wanted to they could produce a version with more refined suspension than the MT-07 and basically take the fight to Yamaha with the MT-07's biggest flaw, but Suzuki is extremely dedicated to resting on their laurels. Only the Hayabusa has gotten any interesting attention from the company lately.
      I'm starting to think I feel the same way about Suzuki as I do Harley Davidson. I really like the bikes, I just think the board of directors has their heads so far up their own asses that they're dooming the brand through inaction

    • @scottwittla
      @scottwittla Před 2 lety +2

      @@traviswrigg5158 I would have bought an SV650 if it had LED lights and an updated dash (and maybe a USD fork) but I went with a Trident instead. Your analysis is pretty spot on.

    • @BirdArvid
      @BirdArvid Před 2 lety +1

      @@traviswrigg5158 The things is, though, that the basic package has so much potential with the heart of the bike; the engine/chassis is so good, that I'd argue you can take the SV very far indeed, with upgrades as you go. An old gixxer front end, a new rear shock, and boom; you have a lovely motorcycle!

    • @traviswrigg5158
      @traviswrigg5158 Před 2 lety

      @@BirdArvid If I weren't already eyeballs deep in a project involving a harley sportster I'd probably go out and get an SV650 to do something similar to what you're describing

  • @shmac96
    @shmac96 Před 3 lety +31

    So naked middleweight also means faired?

  • @timlee2237
    @timlee2237 Před 3 lety +36

    I'm a new rider and it seems as if the Trident knows my skill level and has decided not to kill me. this has been a great bike to learn on

    • @chris5k132
      @chris5k132 Před 3 lety +1

      Such a nice bike.

    • @jackgirote9132
      @jackgirote9132 Před 3 lety +1

      Thats why I bought mine. It has inspired alot of confidence in me since day one. Its my second bike. I didn't want to get something to intimidating.

    • @timlee2237
      @timlee2237 Před 3 lety

      @@jackgirote9132 I was in the wet today... tires are amazing and the rain mode got me out of a potentially slippery situation.

    • @jackgirote9132
      @jackgirote9132 Před 3 lety +2

      @@timlee2237 The Michelin road 5's are the best rain tires on the market. The TC has saved me in corners with gravel that I didn't see when riding at night. The ABS does save you from locking up the rear wheel as well.

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway Před 2 lety +4

      The Honda is 2 bikes in one - a pussycat around town, light clutch feel. But when you can wind it out your butt will pucker and it will take surgery to remove your grin.

  • @pistolpete6321
    @pistolpete6321 Před 3 lety +2

    Fantastic video guys, spot on analysis and great insights on each bike!

  • @Cooper2007ish
    @Cooper2007ish Před 2 lety

    Great video. I greatly appreciate them in time and hard work that goes into these longer large comparisons. Keep up the good work.

  • @glenndeason
    @glenndeason Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you so much, I love these comparisons! Can you please do more of these? Like the supersports or the other naked bikes. Thanks again!

  • @cnote678
    @cnote678 Před rokem +1

    "Rambunctious around the house" 🤣 hilarious as always! Great content, and thank you for this "public service"!

  • @tonyhewitt1345
    @tonyhewitt1345 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent review guys. Great production too

  • @Everendlesss
    @Everendlesss Před 3 lety +1

    What a lineup. This is definitely a cool segment of bikes to choose from. My first bike is an R3, and I cant wait to step up the game. Cheers.

  • @eliteengineerdaz
    @eliteengineerdaz Před 2 lety +2

    SV650 all day for me. The fact it's still competing with these new bikes speaks for itself.

  • @paintup46
    @paintup46 Před 3 lety +28

    @ 12:27 is the damn blinker falling off? Right as he says “the mt07 feels cheap to me” lol.

    • @alexp6409
      @alexp6409 Před 3 lety +2

      Noticed the same thing...

    • @MrB590
      @MrB590 Před 3 lety +2

      Built on a budget

    • @monkmoto1887
      @monkmoto1887 Před 3 lety +3

      That was the biggest problem with the mt series of bikes. They all feel cheap. The bars feel like thin soft metal and I bet you can bend the bars on an mt10 significantly just pulling on the bars

    • @henryslager9406
      @henryslager9406 Před 3 lety

      @@monkmoto1887 Damn that’s bad

    • @shahabaz.maharoof
      @shahabaz.maharoof Před 3 lety +3

      Don't know why yamaha chose this design over the previous one, But love that cp2 engine but sad for that looks. Why yamaha why?, keeping trash plastics on that beautiful motor 😐

  • @8765daks
    @8765daks Před 3 lety +18

    Would have liked to see the Svartpilen and Vitpilen 701s in this comparison.

    • @TheMrSandMan11
      @TheMrSandMan11 Před 3 lety +3

      unfortunately I believe they have been discontinued

    • @danytheunicorn95
      @danytheunicorn95 Před 3 lety

      they would be number 1 easy, torquier than the MT07, prettier, amazing chasis, suspension and motor. Only downside is reliability

    • @danytheunicorn95
      @danytheunicorn95 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheMrSandMan11 Damn! you´re right. it´s shocking to me but I guess smaller bikes sell better now because of the license and taxing restrictions :(

    • @8765daks
      @8765daks Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheMrSandMan11 That's a huge bummer, but you're right. If I were looking i'd hunt down old new stock or even lightly used over the bikes listed. They are super original and just a blast to ride.

    • @Arthurzeiro
      @Arthurzeiro Před 2 lety

      @@danytheunicorn95 "Only"

  • @nithinjacob7455
    @nithinjacob7455 Před 3 lety +2

    Been waiting for this shoot out for years!!! Thanks guys

  • @BS32768
    @BS32768 Před 3 lety +6

    Great comparison! Good to see all the reviewers name solid preferences instead of saying 'all these bikes are good - different strokes for different folks'. Watched too many old videos that ended like that.

    • @Dranreb865
      @Dranreb865 Před 3 lety +1

      Unless its kevin duke who will take a ktm duke always cos its named like his

    • @BS32768
      @BS32768 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Dranreb865 I mean, how can you not, with a name like that? :)

  • @boytubing33
    @boytubing33 Před 3 lety +9

    The Aprilia is not a naked bike, but it would be good to compare it with the R7 once it's available.

    • @MrRui33333
      @MrRui33333 Před 2 lety

      aprilia tuono is not a naked bike ?! ,....kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk ,.. yes , it is ,... ,kkk rs 660 aprilia compare a yamaha r7

  • @LexingtonDaniel
    @LexingtonDaniel Před 3 lety +38

    Would have liked to see how one of the Husqvarna 701s fell among this group.

    • @tylerwat3851
      @tylerwat3851 Před 3 lety +2

      Definitely… and the duke

    • @user-sw2lv3zp6o
      @user-sw2lv3zp6o Před 3 lety +2

      @@tylerwat3851 There isn't a Duke 690 now.

    • @monkmoto1887
      @monkmoto1887 Před 3 lety

      Probably on its side I’d guess

    • @jimbo1485
      @jimbo1485 Před 3 lety

      @@user-sw2lv3zp6o they still have the 690 smcr,
      Just not the 690 duke

    • @jimbo1485
      @jimbo1485 Před 3 lety +1

      Would have done very well in the tight stuff

  • @Sheltemz
    @Sheltemz Před 2 lety +1

    picked up my Trident 9 days ago, in love!! haha

  • @kleinbottled79
    @kleinbottled79 Před 3 lety

    Good one guys. Like the format.

  • @shingod700
    @shingod700 Před 2 lety +3

    I bought a 2016 FZ07 3 years ago for my wife, paid 4k$, 5000 miles on the bike, full dyno tune, akrapovic exhaust, frame slider, spool, r6 throttle, floating tank bag, puig windshield, heated grip, led blinker, fender eliminator and couple other goodies.
    For the price, the fun factor is hard to beat and the sound is amazing.

    • @Mech.E
      @Mech.E Před 2 lety

      Nowadays they go for ridiculous prices new and 2nd hand

  • @lacix22
    @lacix22 Před 2 lety

    Love the heroic music….LOL. Its like you are actually doing something

  • @patricksandeberg8184
    @patricksandeberg8184 Před 3 lety +12

    Excellent review guys! I've been waiting for this one!! 👌🏽
    The Swedish part of me wishes that the Husky 701 was part of this gang🤙🏼

    • @cammo4000
      @cammo4000 Před 3 lety +1

      No longer sold in USA for 2021

    • @patricksandeberg8184
      @patricksandeberg8184 Před 3 lety

      @@cammo4000 Whaaaaaat?! Dang!

    • @Uninfluenceable
      @Uninfluenceable Před 3 lety +3

      @@cammo4000 the 2021 701 supermoto is still sold in the US, but for over $13k, that's a hard pass when you can buy an SWM SM500r (also a Husky) for half the price..

    • @lovelessissimo
      @lovelessissimo Před 2 lety

      @@patricksandeberg8184 they are being sold everywhere.

    • @patricksandeberg8184
      @patricksandeberg8184 Před 2 lety

      @@lovelessissimo I meant the 701 Svart and Vitpilen. Not the SM or Enduro. Does are to expensive 😉

  • @b.t.2795
    @b.t.2795 Před 3 lety +4

    My favorite class of bikes.
    Thank you!

  • @jamievidd775
    @jamievidd775 Před 2 lety

    Had an ‘06 SV650. One of my favorite bikes ever. You can upgrade the suspension if you wish. That engine was so good.

  • @rolan2dr
    @rolan2dr Před 2 lety

    These roads are so beautiful!

  • @andreasfalt8691
    @andreasfalt8691 Před 3 lety +3

    I really like the Honda and am actually surprised it didnt win the comparison. Those three finalists must be amazing!

    • @Cruiser203
      @Cruiser203 Před 3 lety +1

      The Inline 4 doesn’t have much character compared to the other bikes here

  • @Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged

    Some of these things belong together, one of these things is not like the others

    • @kiv2193
      @kiv2193 Před 3 lety +2

      The Arpillia isn't really a sport bike though , look at the riding position and handle bars, it rides like a naked.

    • @shirshanya
      @shirshanya Před 3 lety

      ​@@kiv2193 sounds just like the ducati supersport then

  • @TheRausing1
    @TheRausing1 Před 2 lety +4

    I truly believe the sv650 is by far the best looking of this group... I don’t know why, I just love the design. It looks very timeless and solid to me.

  • @aaronburela432
    @aaronburela432 Před 3 lety

    These are always the best

  • @kleinbottled79
    @kleinbottled79 Před 3 lety +7

    John Burns does a good 1.5x imitation. 😉

  • @thinkdunson
    @thinkdunson Před 3 lety +8

    KTM are missing out, not having a bike in this range.
    i have an sv650, and i absolutely love it. i just bought a z900, and i absolutely love it too.
    the sv has that "doesn't care how fast you're going" quality. until around 100 or so, where it kind of starts to peter out. but it's perfectly happy going fast or slow. the z900 on the other hand wants to go fast all the time. don't get me wrong, it's smooth and rock solid going slow, but that engine is a damn demon. for me anyway, coming from an sv. the z has nearly twice as much power. you have to have a lot of self control to not just whip through traffic at all times. it's always whispering in your ear how easy it would be to go twice as fast as everyone else. and it's smooth as silk all the way to 150.
    but anyway, i bought my sv brand new in 2018. it's got about 70k miles on it, and it's still ten tons of fun. no exaggeration... if it had another couple ticks on the tach, i could be happy with it forever, but i wanted more so i got the z900. and good god does it have more. i feel like maybe i'll eventually get that triumph just to have something that's not begging me with every fiber of its being to go 120+ all the time.

    • @maximesauve112
      @maximesauve112 Před 3 lety +1

      yeah I had an SV as my first bike, both a 2011 speed triple after and now im looking at that trident wondering if it might keep me alive a bit longer lol

    • @billallen4793
      @billallen4793 Před 3 lety +1

      Well done sir 70,000 miles on the sv...from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe

  • @ahmedshahab4105
    @ahmedshahab4105 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm in love with the CB650r

  • @Thunderbr3wn
    @Thunderbr3wn Před 3 lety +9

    Must have been neat to have all of them back to back like that. The 650 class is really strong right now, there really aren't any bad bikes here. My favorites have are the Honda and the Triumph.

    • @EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist
      @EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist Před 3 lety +1

      It was fun to have them all. Since we used my house as the starting point for our test loops, my garage was overflowing. Because I love this class of bike, that was a very good thing.

    • @billallen4793
      @billallen4793 Před 3 lety +1

      @@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist you guy's have a dream job! Great comparison with the bike's...from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe

  • @MachoMadness69420
    @MachoMadness69420 Před 3 lety +9

    The Aprilia doesn’t really make that much sense to me.
    The price throws it right in with the likes of the MT-09, Street Triple, Duke 890, Z900, the new Monster etc., but it doesn’t have the power to compete with them.
    And then there’s the electronics which, although nice, seems a bit over the top for a bike with sub 100 hp and probably makes the bike more expensive than it needs to be.

    • @Stratocasterhead51
      @Stratocasterhead51 Před 3 lety +2

      Aprilia priced themselves outside of their category. They should have cut the electronics out and slashed 2k off the bikes price. It would still be at the high end of the 650 class, but it would actually compete price wise.
      What these reviewers dont seem to understand is that a customer will look at price above all else. You cant realistically compare the 660 with the other 650 class bikes when it costs more than a zx6r…

    • @MachoMadness69420
      @MachoMadness69420 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Stratocasterhead51
      Exactly.
      ABS and a simple TCS with 2-3 settings(+”OFF”) off would be plenty.
      The electronics on the Tuono 660 is overkill for a bike with “only” 95 hp.

  • @mindspinn311
    @mindspinn311 Před 3 lety +2

    Proud 3rd generation SV650 owner here. Definitely deserves better than last place considering it beat out the FZ-07 in a 2017 comparison from another magazine, but yeah it was almost obsolete the day it was introduced. Still a great bike though. I do miss the torque of the MT-07 engine and that bike is more comfortable for me, so I may end up with a second gen one of those soon. Definitely need to test ride the Trident and Tuono.

  • @cooleyballs1
    @cooleyballs1 Před 3 lety

    Great intro.. Great camera work..

  • @lucasszymanski114
    @lucasszymanski114 Před 3 lety +5

    I started riding this year on my first bike, the FZ07. I love that bike, I did loop it but I really love riding it as I grow into it. I do prefer the look of the FZ07 over the updated MT07 version and the lack of a slipper clutch I do believe helps me become a better rider.

  • @jeffreydiaz7833
    @jeffreydiaz7833 Před 3 lety +7

    Sv650x is hands down the best beginner bike i have ever rode, have a 2019 and love it.

    • @kugangles9860
      @kugangles9860 Před 2 lety +1

      I had a 1998 SV650s way back when I started riding. Great bike.

  • @czierwo
    @czierwo Před 2 lety

    Lovely machine Trident. Never thought I will ever say anything like this about Triumph. Always struck me as an old man motorcycle brand, but they do kick ass nowadays with Daytona and Speed triple in their line-up!

  • @c0c0asauce
    @c0c0asauce Před 3 lety +3

    Looking at the Triumph Trident's Dyno graph, that is the one I want. If that tip up right before the redline is honest then it has to be the most rewarding to rev out.

    • @Sheltemz
      @Sheltemz Před 2 lety

      its awesome, has no flat spots, quite happy to glide away in 5th at 30mph

  • @Martini3g
    @Martini3g Před 3 lety +5

    CB650R for me. 4 banger + that look

  • @Firestorm637
    @Firestorm637 Před 2 lety

    Trident. Premium bike. Triple is a great engine. Love underbelly exhaust

  • @cp4512
    @cp4512 Před 3 lety +1

    All great bikes! 👍

  • @tyranid05
    @tyranid05 Před rokem

    I gotta say I just started following this channel and John Burns speaks a lot of wisdom that I think the other stars don't necessarily have the age to appreciate what he's saying

  • @dsofe4879
    @dsofe4879 Před 2 lety +2

    I own the Honda, it really packs a punch once you get above 9000 rpm, but doing so requires basically never leaving 2nd gear and always seems like kind of a chore. Riding it hard is always a bit of a hectic experience. It's super fun and sounds fantastic, but I think my next bike will be an XSR 900, I definitely want more mid-range torque.

  • @tseejmuas
    @tseejmuas Před 3 lety +5

    Not to my surprise. Aprilia already had recalls on the 660 engine.

    • @kugangles9860
      @kugangles9860 Před 2 lety +2

      There are always bugs to work out for new engine design first year bikes for most manufactures

  • @_Makanko_
    @_Makanko_ Před 3 lety

    Nicely done.

  • @cassin11
    @cassin11 Před 3 lety

    Please do the new MT-09, Monster, and 890R shootout. These 3 are really close. On the market to get one

  • @paullong1472
    @paullong1472 Před 3 lety +5

    Great to see a review of the 650 class, I was surprised that you put the Trident first as I would consider it to be the least practical bike in the test. If you are using the bike for commuting, where do you carry your lock ? No where to put a bit of luggage for a weekend away, I don't think you can fit a top box. The Honda would be my personal favourite but I'd have the Aprilia if I could afford it.

    • @jackgirote9132
      @jackgirote9132 Před 3 lety +1

      Hey man. You are right. No cargo room at all. I bought a 20L Kriega bag. You can convert it between a tail or a tank bag.

  • @raiseinets3759
    @raiseinets3759 Před 2 lety +1

    Ranking on the website is different from what on the video. At least for the 4th and fifth place. I love the cb650r though.

  • @clarissahermiston4548
    @clarissahermiston4548 Před 2 lety

    thanks

  • @jamesdarnell8568
    @jamesdarnell8568 Před 3 lety +4

    Good comparison. But I am not a mainstream rider. I'm pushing 70 and don't ride aggressively in the twisties anymore (I like a nice relaxed ride). I am 5'-10" but seem to be getting shorter every year. I don't need the most power but I appreciate torque. I don't care what my bike sounds like. So it's the Kawasaki Z650 for me. Love the slipper clutch and the large TFT display. My second bike would be a Triumph T100.

    • @JDeezle21
      @JDeezle21 Před 8 měsíci

      SV650 have a nice old school feel and plenty of aftermarket parts

  • @nicolascampe8101
    @nicolascampe8101 Před rokem

    I have the cagiva raptor 650... I still feel this one can compeed with all of these bikes.

  • @A_Wolf
    @A_Wolf Před 2 lety

    Can you do a comparison of the r7, ninja 650, cbr 650, and rs 660?!

  • @helgejohan3604
    @helgejohan3604 Před 2 lety +1

    I tried Tuono 660 , got a lot of grunt 🔥and feels a lot faster then M07😎

  • @capngeo2002
    @capngeo2002 Před 3 lety +4

    Rode a 2017 FZ-07 on The Big Island. Too much fun and that engine! I would pay the MT-07 SP price. Rather have it than a MT-09 SP. Or new R7 chassis/suspension updates on a naked. If I were going to spend the $$ on Aprillia I'd get a KTM/890/R or a MT-09/SP. Triumph sounds great but not into its look and I despise those floating back fenders.
    Hard to disagree with these pros. My favorite review, recently.

  • @-JSLAK
    @-JSLAK Před 3 lety +2

    34:12 whats the name of the epic music?
    Edit: it is Edgar Hopp - Army of Angels

  • @CraigSmith568
    @CraigSmith568 Před 3 lety +6

    Yamaha needs to put the suspension off of the new R7 on this bike.

    • @msj5997
      @msj5997 Před 3 lety +1

      True. I am not sure about R7. But if Yamaha upgrade MT07 with the suspension and brake from R7, it would be perfect!

    • @CraigSmith568
      @CraigSmith568 Před 3 lety

      @@msj5997 The R7 is just a bit too aggressive of a riding position for me. Looks good though.

  • @jackgirote9132
    @jackgirote9132 Před 3 lety +2

    I love my Trident. The crystal white Trident really pops btw (I own the crystal white trident). I've kept and eye on this bike since its official press release. So glad I pulled the trigger on one. No buyers remorse here. Not to many complaints when its only $9K out the door here in the USA. Its a great all-rounder.

  • @victorherrero4790
    @victorherrero4790 Před 2 lety +1

    Great bikes.
    The best of this battle:
    Best overall: Triumph
    Sporty: Yamaha
    Value: Suzuki.
    Period.

  • @naturalforlife6741
    @naturalforlife6741 Před 10 měsíci

    Watching this and the development of humans at the same time proves that evolution is still strong.

  • @arnoldis24
    @arnoldis24 Před 3 lety +3

    How is the Aprilia naked?

  • @hezrimustapha6906
    @hezrimustapha6906 Před 2 lety +1

    Ryan has issue with having to bend his knee more in the Kawi... Yet, one of his favourites CB650R has even much more bended knee angle..

  • @luislaurencio
    @luislaurencio Před 2 lety

    If its just a weekend thing maybe use it once a week putting 2000 miles a year i would tske the triumph but if i am going to use it a lot it has to be either the mt07 or the sv650. In my case i would get the mt07

  • @scottclark8658
    @scottclark8658 Před 3 lety +7

    The Aprillia is not priced in this group its priced in line with street triple rs and 890duke r

    • @EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist
      @EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist Před 3 lety

      Thanks for your comment. We chose to define middleweight bikes by their displacement, like most people do, so it fits just fine. That said, the Tuono is neither fish nor fowl when it comes to categorizing it

    • @sonkaldo
      @sonkaldo Před 3 lety

      Agree why on earth put that bike in.

    • @Stratocasterhead51
      @Stratocasterhead51 Před 3 lety

      @@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist People who shop for bikes look at price more than displacement. If a tuono 660 is similar in cost to a z900, a ktm890 or a mt09 then thats what you should compare it with.
      Aprilia decided to go full yolo when it comes to electronics and priced the bike OUTSIDE of its category. Let them live with their mistake and compare it to what its price dictates it be compared to.

  • @Firestorm637
    @Firestorm637 Před 2 lety

    Trident a great naked bike

  • @Blottski
    @Blottski Před 2 lety

    I don't know why, but the music gives me serious LoTR vibes like these guys are about to battle a massive army from the seat of their trusty mechanical steeds.

  • @kbeightyseven1783
    @kbeightyseven1783 Před rokem

    I’m a big fan of the triump trident, but I do think Yamaha need to make an mt07 sp, with decent suspension

  • @ogummyo1022
    @ogummyo1022 Před 3 lety +3

    Time for an updated video in the Super Naked category as well?

  • @Trotter13
    @Trotter13 Před 3 lety +18

    I'm sorry, the Tuono is not a naked bike. They can say it is but I can see it ...
    I get comparing similar cc bikes but there has to be some bracketing beyond cc number. There is 30% swing in price here ...
    Keep it up guys, good effort, good idea, poor selection.

  • @claretbuck1882
    @claretbuck1882 Před 3 lety

    Awesome chaps

  • @iodineclip
    @iodineclip Před 3 lety

    just look at MT07's dyno graph ! nothing comes close to its power until it dies off at the redline, then only comes CB and Aprilia. Thats an astounding power.

  • @viralengine908
    @viralengine908 Před 2 lety

    It's funny. I live in a country with not a lot of wide open roads and traffic conditions are really chaotic, and reviewers loved the peaky nature of the cbr over the Trident since those kind of bikes are less common here, and the KTM singles dominate

  • @Firestorm637
    @Firestorm637 Před 3 lety

    Love triples. Both torque and horsepower like a V4 but more character

    • @Fearless154
      @Fearless154 Před 3 lety

      Define "character" For me triumph triples are silky smooth and feel like I4 if not the sound of triples. V4's from Aprilia and Ducati have much more "pazazz" and "character" IMO.

  • @paulconnell1309
    @paulconnell1309 Před 2 lety

    Another fun review with the web article well worth a read, thanks guys. Where I come from the Tuono costs 46% more than the MT and 38% more than the Trident. It's 10% more than a Z900 and MT09SP and same price as the new Ducati Monster for goodness sake! So it is disqualified for having a silly price tag for a 660. Pure ego buy. That makes the Trident first, MT07 second and Z650 third. Except the Honda really beats the Z. Better quality all around, better handling than the MT, usable in power in the city and isn't ringing the neck of a small bike out of corners half the fun of riding canons? Surely if you are pushing on you want the gears down and engine revving?? The missing bike is the now aging GSX S750. Same price as Triumph, only 90 more cc, but just on 100bhp and more torque than the lot at 54f tlbs with 45 available just under 5000 rpm. Better suspension and brakes than the MT07. And in my country one coffee less than the Trident. Just saying.

  • @ahmedshahab4105
    @ahmedshahab4105 Před 2 lety

    What about the MV Augusta Brutale 800?

  • @xelnjare3945
    @xelnjare3945 Před 2 lety

    Z650 bashing continues - but I don't care, I love mine :)

  • @patrickcallahan2885
    @patrickcallahan2885 Před 3 lety +2

    For me, all of these bikes are close to that “My First Big Bike” type motorcycle. The outlier being the Aprilia, as it is priced beyond the others. So one has to ask, with these bikes in order to make them better, it requires maybe a suspension upgrade, or a retuned ECU, or better brakes/lines, or even better tires? But at this level, is that even necessary? It seems to me, these represent a stopgap on the way to a super naked.

  • @bencappello5324
    @bencappello5324 Před 2 lety

    How does a 701 stack up in this category?

  • @organichotdog3807
    @organichotdog3807 Před 3 lety +12

    My 2017 SV650 is a great motorcycle, and quicker 0 to 60 than the Triumph (according to a test by some Austrian CZcamsrs). If you are going to rank these bike by how new they are, then ok, the SV is 6th. But I've ridden an FZ-07 and the torque is annoying when you first twist the throttle. I like my SV more and more each time I ride it. My legs are too long for the Z650. The Honda, I don't want to rev the snot out of a bike to get to the power. The Aprilia, that's a lot of money for a flat spot.

    • @user-sw2lv3zp6o
      @user-sw2lv3zp6o Před 3 lety +2

      If the SV had the immediate shove of the MT, it would be the perfect bike. Torque could never be annoying.

    • @organichotdog3807
      @organichotdog3807 Před 3 lety +4

      @@user-sw2lv3zp6o Lots of torque is great, but it came on too abruptly, at least it did on the FZ-07 I rode for 3 days. I don't need all the torque at 2% throttle. Hopefully they improved it. If I were to buy a 2021 MT-07, I'd definitely replace that ridiculous looking headlight. But honestly, I would not sell my SV and replace it with any of these bikes. There isn't a big enough performance difference.

    • @user-sw2lv3zp6o
      @user-sw2lv3zp6o Před 3 lety +1

      @@organichotdog3807 I like immediate torque because I used to ride an R1100GS and still have a Buell Ulysses.

    • @monkmoto1887
      @monkmoto1887 Před 3 lety +1

      60mph isn’t that fast and these bikes are close enough as such that the one that’s fastest to 60 is the one you can launch best and wind out 2nd first on. 0-60 is a dumb stat for bikes especially over 600cc

    • @craiggraham2638
      @craiggraham2638 Před 3 lety +1

      Australia didn’t get the full power Trident - they only got the restricted LAMS learner edition (54hp).

  • @youngyuun
    @youngyuun Před 3 lety +1

    The Sv650 is a fun, tractable and versatile motorcycle. But it feels too old for other motorcycles

  • @gigi9467
    @gigi9467 Před 2 lety

    Am guessing that to have a semi relaxed freeway jount of say 70-75mph you need a 650cc+ right? Ive ridding harleys for too long and now with kids i dont want to spend that much money but i Don’t want the bike to be screaming bloody murder when I’m doing 70-75 on the freeway what are you guys think

  • @billystylish
    @billystylish Před 2 lety

    Anybody know what model Troy's Alpinestarz jacket is? Thank you 🙏

  • @DukeOfTwist
    @DukeOfTwist Před 2 lety

    Why was the KTM Duke 790 not considered a Middleweight Naked?

  • @matthew5684
    @matthew5684 Před 11 měsíci

    what is that red alpinestars jacket

  • @scinovlog9680
    @scinovlog9680 Před 3 lety +1

    So when are we getting Trident RS with 1200 triple engine XD? Because I love the styling, but I already have the Street Cup.

  • @MrRui33333
    @MrRui33333 Před 2 lety

    I also agree with mr. who said that the yamaha mercia 0 2-place, because the aprilia is undoubtedly the best motop in general, but also much more expensive, alias of all these I think the mt 07 is even the cheapest, sometimes the simplest aspect, ( cheaper) does not always mean that it is not good or that it will last a short time,.. , and in this case the mt 07 has already shown its reliability, and curiously its weakest point, is the appearance of rust in some places, logicop that also depends on how the bike is estimated, but it has a tendency to rust, in short it is a good bike, simple and cheap or reasonably cheap,.. its engine,.. is well differentiated from all the others as it shows and well the map of power , force ,.. which up to 7500/8000 rpm ,.. is one of the most vigorous in delivery ,.. in addition it is also very easy to maneuver and explore ,..however, all these bikes are good ni vel, all with good quality,.. and aprilia is by far the most premium,.. but it also has another price, which you could buy a mt 09 ,.. makes you think ,.. or maybe not ,..kkkkk ,.. I was going right from mt 09 ,.., and I even like the Italian brand, but, a lot of money,.., however I even believe it's worth it, but with the same money, I went up in category and changed my mt 07 2020 , by the new mt 09 ....

  • @Krezo200
    @Krezo200 Před rokem

    What is a slipper clutch?

  • @pookguy88
    @pookguy88 Před 3 lety +6

    no KTM?

    • @maximesauve112
      @maximesauve112 Před 3 lety

      the 690 dosn't exist anymore in the North american market

  • @richardcarr6493
    @richardcarr6493 Před rokem

    Trident 🔱 if I was going New SV650 used 😃

  • @Whataiveur
    @Whataiveur Před 3 lety +1

    I'm surprised the Triumph Street Triple S is not in shootout...

    • @wirenut3020
      @wirenut3020 Před 2 lety

      There’s only an R or RS model in the US anyway.. The R model is still cheaper than the Aprilia

  • @kaomatic
    @kaomatic Před rokem +1

    there’s nothing naked about that aprilia 😂

  • @curtn7076
    @curtn7076 Před 3 lety +40

    1Triumph, 2Yamaha, 3Suzuki.. because if the engine don't have torque..that can't be fixed...that's a deal breaker for me.

    • @Fearless154
      @Fearless154 Před 3 lety +4

      I don't know whats the deal with flat spot on the US bikes.
      I've ridden the european rs660 and the powerband is silky smooth and progressive I didn't find it lacking like cb650r.
      You can totally fix the flat spot with ecu flash and breathable pipe.

    • @curtn7076
      @curtn7076 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Fearless154 to certain degree you can slightly improve low torque engines with a reflash ..but it has more to do with Cam profiles and the engineering ... So you can't change that easily. Easier to fix suspension w new springs...

    • @Fearless154
      @Fearless154 Před 3 lety +1

      @@curtn7076 The torque is not an issue on the 660 engine but the flat spot is in the middle of RPM which is the restriction in the ECU.
      it is a nice and grunty engine with a smooth powerband.

    • @Fearless154
      @Fearless154 Před 3 lety +1

      @@curtn7076 I agree about mt07 but I don't know why they're saying the trident is torquey. It feels similar to rs660 but the trident engine revs so slowly.
      You must down shift consistently to keep the power going if you don't it will take a while till it revs back into the powerband, If you're not on point with your shifting you'll struggle to ride it on the canyon roads.
      Test ride both bikes back to back you'll see.

    • @defragdisk
      @defragdisk Před 2 lety

      You can use sprockets to manupulate that actually