SASUKE VS AIZEN - THE HONEST TRUTH.
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- In this video i finally tackle the long awaited Sasuke Vs Aizen match up to find out who truly wins. If you enjoy content such as this be sure to subscribe as it would truly be appreciated and it would mean a lot Also be sure to check out Anime Express for top Notch Clothes and Items such as swords,hoodies jackets and more. Also remember to use my discount code of “Tempest10” for 10% off. However lastly but importantly thank you.
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Edit* also whether or not you think sasuke can see through kyokasuigetsu or not is entirely based upon how you interpret sasukes rinnegan. I personally think he can and that is well MY OPINION. If you differ in views that is completely fine as well. Also Yamamoto loses to the real yhwach but is weakened why Royd, Again thank you for watching.
ALSO NARUTO VS ICHIGO IS OLD. AND WILL BE REMADE WITH BETTER SCALING AND QUALITY.
kyoka suigetsu is the shikai's name its ability is complete hypnosis
If sasuke goes all out and uses the hax he has but never used like all rennegan abilities then izanagi and izanami than coping aizen’s moves by sharingan than I don’t think aizen wins…it won’t matter if aizen has more strength, speed or intelligence if he gets caught in izanagi or gets his soul sealed by the king of hell which can be summoned by sasuke and sasuke can just absorb aizen’s soul upon touch…and if sasuke uses planetary devastation on aizen everything from that planet will get thrown towards aizen…
@@RohitNikam-ps2zjwow planet vs galaxy?
Bro what’s that song 13:18
The comparing characters from differet anime is stupid and childish
As a die hard Naruto fan… this isn’t even a debate nor contest. More like slaughter. Aizen is a beast.
"Aizen is a beast" your a bleach fan and kenpachi is a beast aizen is not he is just superior
@@Exquizit_scans3838 not a bleach actually.
@@Exquizit_scans3838 what are you on sbout
Then you ain’t a naruto fan
@@Infinite2218bro thinks this shit is a gang war or something. It’s not that deep. You can think naruto is a better quality series than bleach( ☠️) but the characters are stronger that’s the facts
Regarding Senjumaru, what makes that feat impressive isn't that she shook basically the entire cosmology but she did it with a slight release of her power
And with a Bankai designed for SEALING, not damage, not Existence Erasure, *SEALING.* Aizen scales far above this, so naturally, he negs.
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 it's crazy because that's just like a passive eminence of reiatsu like imagine if she really used all her power without limiting it to around herself
@@mr.quirrel4982That was a slight use of her power too. If she was bloodlusted and keeping her reiatsu closed up, she would've probably one shotted all of them.
Im here early to say Aizen wins No-Low Diff.
Bleach fans are such a wankers
Bud contradicted the video😭
Bros right tho.
Negative* people wank Naruto into oblivion
@@Guns66 bro is indeed not right😭 Mid to high dif for Aizen only because of his hax, they both scale similarly in ap and speed, if not Sasuke being much faster
as a Naruto fan , we all know Aizen too powerful for Sasuke. But imagine if Sasuke had a bankai 😂
Probably wouldn't help Sasuke having a bankai because even then aizen would still be to strong
@@waynegafford1010 I think he might be able to out strategize Aizen in the heat of battle so if was given some kind of hax with bankai and his other naruto hax & jutsu he would stand a better chance of winning 🤷🏿♂️
@@rellohz2755 probably but then all aizen has to do is use his bankai which we have never seen
@@rellohz2755 Imagine Aizen with a bankai now 💀
Nah ur right what if Sasuke had bankai... Wait what if aizen used his babkai
One thing that people don't talk enough about is Aizen's actual arsenal. Im not talking kyoka suigetsu or hado 90, i mean the other 200 (im not being hyperbolic here) kido spells that are possibly at his disposal. Kido spells that are also pretty underrated.
Rikujōkōrō completely stops a person from moving any part of their body with the point of a finger.
Inemuri which can legit just auto KO a person by holding their hand in front of their face.
And a whole bunch of other just straight auto KO or restriction bakudo spells. As we all know he's very proficient in the hado series, capable of going to the highest possible level.
Im not saying he can use the unranked Kido but he definitelly should be able to utilize the majority of if not all of the ranked Kido spells due to him being at the very least on par with Kitsuke when it comes to being a Kido master. which like i said, there are over 200 of.
On top of that it is very possible, no just straight up confirmed that Aizen can utilize hollow abilities meaning he could potentially use things like Hierro which would buff his already absurd defense massively or fire out balas if he wanted to. His monster form already showcased him using hollow like abilities so something like this isn't out of the question.
the kido are divided into 100 bakudo (defensive) and 100 hado (offensive) all spiritual techniques, that is, they interact with the soul, I don't understand how people compare these verses if Bleach is in a higher rank than Naruto.
Aizen did use Hierro actually.
Now that you said it there are more in arsenal that will absolutely just one shot non immune being there's alot please do mention it more
Goddanm aizen is him 💀
we already predicted the outcome.
😂
Not at all. Sasuke negs.
@@choppyhakusho we can debate that.
@@shadowmomochiuchiha6839It's not debatable, Aizen negs Sasuke + verse
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 why you ducking?
I won't get into my scaling for both characters because most don't agree with it but all ill say is aizen utterly destroys here
Not at all. Sasuke utterly abuses and violates here.
@@choppyhakusho absolutely not
Sasuke loses in literally everything and has zero counters for Aizen's hax lmfao
Aizen actually blinks him out of existence
The main problem is that Aizen has adaptive evolution alongside immortality and is extremely battle smart and has way more battle experience. Let alone the fact that the Naruto verse has very iffy scaling considering people can’t even agree on the same page for how big attacks are comparative to the Naruto verse itself.
Sasuke has access to immortality too he literally said it in his fight against Naruto
@@jamevolve8380 ……so if that’s the case why does Sasuke resort to jumping people in a majority of his fights if he has access to immortality? Aizen is just straight up immortal and doesn’t care about getting jumped. He actually encourages it, they are not the same.
@@jamevolve8380he doesn't. Give the name of the chapter cause I for sure don't remember that
Furthermore the actual problem is Aizen's evolution which carried him from being fodder to Ichigo to being above him
@@bamTubeDude Are you stupid? Bleach verse has iffy scaling and on top of that comparing the Naruto verses attacks with Bleach, Naruto's verse being clearly stronger. Sasuke can easily seal him with sealing jutsu.
@@jamevolve8380Last time I checked, Sasuke almost died, multiple times, while Aizen came back from celluar destruction.
Im glad you mentioned the new scaling of Squad 0. Dont see many people talking about that tbh
Damn I wonder if some of the 0 Squad died...if Kiskue and Yourichi and others replaced em
Damn I wonder if some of the 0 Squad died...if Kiskue and Yourichi and others replaced em
Damn I wonder if some of the 0 Squad died...if Kiskue and Yourichi and others replaced em
@@Isaac-lp2ewwhy did you post this bs 10 times and they don’t die they are immortal as long as the palace exists they will always come back
Phone glitched...didn't know that happened. Sidenote. Never heard that mentioned for anyone but Osho
Aizen casually by sitting on his chair low dif’s Sasuke 😭
Chair Sama stomps sasuke
Hi Exro
Lmao Sasuke negs all versions of Aizen.
@@malekith33 Sasuke negs Aizen.
The chair stomps Sasuke neg diff + verse
aizen destroy naruto verse
Cap and we can debate it
No
@@Exquizit_scans3838 they can't see him + resist his reiatsu its over for them 😭
@@mayymayl naruto world is bigger because momoshiki has a parallel universe with like expanding red shift nebulae and his universe is new so narutos universe being the main universe expands and is much larger than bleach and even has our solar system and planets.
@@Exquizit_scans3838what are you talking about the Bleach verse is bigger then Naruto’s. It’s not limited to the 3 main worlds(and just because they call them worlds that doesn’t make them planet size and that’s it) they are all each their own universes and you also got the infinite Dangai, Hell, and all the other pocket dimensions.
Death battle rode Madara d too hard 😂. He was never in aizens league. Aizen probably wouldn’t have to go past base/ captain aizen to clap anyone in Naruto verse considering that it’s stated that he in base could clap all but 2 of the sternritter but even in base it’s a a close fight with those 2 and highly subjective to who does what first
Pure cope a naruto fan created this shit
No lmao Madara doesn't need anything past base to neg the bleach verse. Death battle was right for once. Lmao Sasuke spits on all of them.
@@choppyhakusho aizen at 10% destroy soul king reiatsu madara only for kids like you doesn't know about details
I'd be more interested to see an Aizen vs Sephiroth fight. I don't know too much about the scaling for FF7, but I hear it gets crazy.
sephiroths solos the vers
If we go off Advent Children then Sephiroth solos the verse
Sephiroth has no chance. He did win a death battle but it wasn’t impressive
@@marceljohnson2215 death battle are not great powerscalers bro. Sephiroth has feats putting him to Multiversal especially with him rewriting the story in FF7Remake. Death Battle had him winning against Vergil which he wouldnt as Vergil and Dante scale casually to High Outerversal. But Sephiroth is still enough to delete Bleach.
@@fishnutz5196 exactly bro
Good video. There's a couple of points about the Muken that further support it being infinite in size that I think are worth pointing out:
1. The "almost" infinite statement is a mistranslation, and other translations of the same scene simply say "infinite", with the word "almost" (or similar terms) being nowhere to be found.
2. We know that Ichibei has the ability to see the true nature or the true "names" of all things, and we also know that he named all things in soul society, which should include Muken. So, as Muken means infinite or endless or something similar, and Ichibei knows its true identity/name, and Ichibei is the one who gave it its name, it would then follow that Muken is just as infinite as its name would imply, which is exactly what Unohana says in the scan you used in the video: "Muken, as its name suggests, is completely closed off, and almost infinitely large.", though the "almost" part is a mistranslation as I've pointed out in the first point.
That being said, we do still have the databook statement you pointed out of Muken simply deluding you into thinking it's infinite, rather than actually being infinite, so I recognize there's room for interpretation here.
All I’m saying is that if the Primordial Universe was infinite in size then by separating it into three realms by definition they’d all have to be infinite as well. Since even a part of infinite would also be infinite, however if the primordial universe was finite then at most like Tempest said they’re scaling to Multi Galaxy level except for prime Yhwach who arguably has Universal power based on him being stated to threaten the stability of all the worlds, however if Sealed Aizen can damage him that might be cap
Garganta is a endless black void that houses realms ( hell, ss , wotl, hm) and world of the living is based on our own universe and ss mirrors wotl ( this alone is low balled uni) along with infinite pocket dimensions present inside garganta , muken is infinite 🤷 so there's no reason to doubt yhwach being uni infact he scales higher.
Aizen illusion work on people stronger than him where as genjutsu cannot if the opponent is stronger than u, probably same logic as dragon ball. Aizen has regen where as sasuke does not.
That is a lie genjutsu works on people who are stronger your making a headcanon assertion
@@Exquizit_scans3838 so why don't Sasuke ever use genjutsu on Naruto in the final battle or why don't he ever use on Madara or Obito in in the war, what do u have to say about that ???
Please don't use the logic that the beast inside them can wake them up from genjutsu cuz Obito genjutsu was not broken at all by tail beast mizukage.
Where as aizen illusion work on Yamamoto and yuha even though he stated and we can see and know that he is weaker than both of them
@@arabbitwhocanuseinternet9657 as for that tailed beast they weren't joined so 3 tails never helped him. Also naruto would see it coming as you can sense genjutsu chakars diffrent from normal chakara.
@@Exquizit_scans3838Dued Sasuke couldn’t but Naruto and Killer Bee under Genjutsu, Hell Madara even struggled a lot trying to put Kurama under a Genjutsu
@@Chillchildren999 sasuke put bee in genjutsu but 8tails broke it because their friends also naruro has kuruma now so genjutsu want work and madara did it with ease and so did sasuke stop capping
I tend to agree with the higher interpretations for Bleach and Naruto. I see Bleach as Low Multiversal and Naruto as Uni+
Low Multi for Bleach since the literal plot of the TYBW was Yhwach destroying
1.) The Living World (Universal)
2.) Soul Society (Universal)
3.) Hueco Mundo (Universal to Infinite 3-D)
4.) The Kyogoku/Valley of Screams (Infinite 3-D as they can hold and infinite amount of souls)
5.) The Dangai (A Hyperspace that governs and separates time between the whats implied to be all the realms but confirmed to be the SS and Living World, making destroying this construct a low 2-C feat)
6.) The Garganta which in CFYOW was stated to be infinite in size compared to the rest of the Bleach cosmology, which would mean infinitely larger than the Dangai. Highball argument can be made that it’s a dimension above the Dangai making it 5-D or Low Complex Multi but I’m not sure the validity of that argument)
In the manga it was stated rhag it was Soul King Yhwach’s raw power that was able to create and destroy these realms, and in the novel, it was stated that the reason why the realms didn’t collapse after Yhwach died and why Ichigo wasn’t made the current Soul King was because Ichibei and or Squad 0 took Yhwach’s corpse after Ichigo killed him and sealed it, with the residual energy leaking from his dead body being sufficient enough to keep the Bleach cosmology from collapsing
Aizen scales above this as Yhwach actually had to output force into his attacks to damage Aizen and wasn’t negged by his passive reiatsu
As for Naruto, they scale to Uni+ if we take Kaguya’s ETSO to a generous interpretation, and then by the time of Isshiki and the current manga, they don’t have any statements or scaling for closing the beyond infinite gap between Uni+ and Low Multi
Kashin koji has a statement of shaking the dimensions in his battle against 10% jigen
Bro when they say the bleach universe or when the characters say it they mean the 3 world's operating as one not the 3 world's individually universes. And when ever I ask where it says that they are universal in scale I get the most faulty and backwash info ever.
@@faith4657 fr
@@faith4657The Three Worlds = The Three Realms ( Living World, Hueco Mundo, Soul Society )
@ElderBaguette yea realms, but when they talk of the overall universe its all 3 of them at once.
Let me get some popcorn so I can sit back and watch this
The number 1 bleachtard arrived. "Ichigo Is Outerversal"
To be honest I really don’t mind who wins between these two because Sasuke is in my Top 10 Favorite Characters but personally Aizen is my Favorite Character IN ALL OF FICTION.
Just cus you like them both, it's best to acknowledge the truth. Aizen will mop the floor with both Sasuke and Naruto teaming up on him lol
You guys be calling anything hyperbole, The cleaner is actually transcendent, the fact that it can freely move through time is proof of that, a feat to show that he surpassed reason isn't hyperbole
Mfs will literally ignore it even if they were shown an actual visual feat😂.
Reading and visual comprehension is a dying art.
Great vid man 🤙
Aizen neg diff it's not close
Where would you scale Ichigo, aizen, and Yuha with cfyow, light novel, and manga statements to back up your scaling. But regardless where would you scale them and how?
Even with tons of low balling for Aizen he still won. This ends the debate.
This guy doesn't get things right when it comes to Naruto and bleach
They aren't even comparable brooo
we already know who wins
AIZEN
No Sasuke does.
Sure buddy@@choppyhakusho
Sasuke wins
The hyperspace/pocket universe statement was stated by the narrator
23:57 its called fiction u cant take something that fiction seriously with real life. I would stick that Muken is infinite in size. Unohana a shinigami with 1000+ year old herself comfirm it and she wouldn't lie.
Not at all. Multiple indications state it's not and infinite in her context means very great.
Sasuke stands no chance
yes he does
@@user-lz8op4ib5bHow so? Sasuke doesn't have any wincons
1. He has no counter to the Immortality granted by the Hogyoku.
2. His Genjutsu is an inferior Kyoka Suigetsu, and he has no resistances to Kyoka Suigetsu either.
3. He gets stat stomped heavily being massively slower and weaker.
4. He gets outskilled to an embarrasing degree as Aizen is on par with people such as Yhwach in skill, the same Yhwach who fought Yamamoto who founded the Soul Society and most Shinigami combat arts, including 8000 sword styles, while believing he had mastered every shinigami art there is to know.
5. Aizen is a far better tactician and will figure out any plan before Sasuke can even think about it.
6. Hogyoku Fate Manipulation allows Aizen access to anything he desires on a multiversal scale.
7. Sasuke has no resistances to cover surviving Soul Crush or Existence Erasure, both of which Aizen PASSIVELY emits.
Your scaling skills are improving.
Are my skills improving. Because you’ve watched other videos that arent related to bleach beating naruto or vice versa and came to that conclusion , or are they improving because the character you wanted to win, won?
@@Tempest1018In your earlier videos you tend to only highball and take some statements literal without going into the different other metas of power and speed. I never really cared about the results, I'm more interested in the fair and consistent opinion of someone's scaling and if it makes sense.
@@darryltorres7302 oh big dubs i was afraid you only liked the videos due to the winner. Im glad you’ve been here to grow with me like honestly i appreciate it and it means a lot. Please give me criticism if needed
@@Tempest1018Lol, nah bro. Just noting the improve quality of your scaling.
@@Tempest1018 I think the same way im not a scaler myself but i noticed how much more in depth you've gotten and explaining why one wins over the other yea my favorites don't always win but if it makes sense then thats just it
Aizen no diffs + verse
No tbh 🤷🏻♂️.
@@Dantesolosrealityvaxyret Yes tbh
Nobody in naruto or boruto or shippuden is touching aizen
@@Dantesolosrealityvaxyret i sure think so because kyoka suigetsu is enough for 90 percent of the verse and outside of naruto sasuke madara kakashi obito pain momoshiki ishiki and boruto code kawaki and some others with some resistance to kyoka suigetsu that is only if they have some resistance because of the dojutsu they possess if you think that there eyes can help them from resisting his kyoka suigetsu with aizens iq all the characters in naruto universe will attack there allies if aizen controls everyones senses and made them fight each other and fight naruto sasuke and others 99 pwecwnt of the verse is dead already and all that is left is the heavy hitters
lemme clear one thing for you others remaining heavy hitters wont corporate with each other because they are enemies especially not the otsusuki members even if they all corporate with aizens experience and and mastery of kido half of them will fall down in mere seconds as aizens spiritual pressure is also too much for them too and all left is naruto sasuke boruto kawaki code and otsusuki's and if aizen goes all out it will be also over is just minutes as aizens scales way above them is speed strength hax and abilities and even in skills aizens swordsmanship is top notch and he has more experience than everyone of the combined aizen is too much for naruto verse no doubt
but all these only if they can resist aizens kyoka suigetsu if they dont it is all over the moment everyone looks at him
and sorry to inform to aizens spiritual pressure is too much for them 95 percent of them will with that alone
and aizens attacks are directly applied to the soul idk if they can even block it riatsu is always superior to chakra and ki
@@GokuSolosFictionCope💀Aizen can’t even perceive shibai 😭smartest bleach meat eater
@@user-lh7uu5jp5d Shibai is fodder 😂
Quit riding
EDITING GOES CRAZY
There no way you watched all the vidéo 😭
Fr
@@Dont_know_what_to_name_it i precoged
@@ClassicalAlwayslol ohhh that make sensé
Yamamoto never lost to Loyd Royd,he in fact did fatal damage and then Yhwach arived and finished both of them.
Dude aizen solos the verse i dont get why do people even still debate this ?
Bleachverse is leagues above naruto and one peice
we knew this back in 2007
nah
@@trevorcsizmar2222but it is.
Smartest bleach fan
@@Silence8766 Not at all.
@@user-lh7uu5jp5d Dumbest*
Huh your videos are very well made with plenty of evidence.W.
Literally sasuke looks at aizen in his general direction while his kyoka suigetsu is activated, he basically got into perfect hypnosis without even realizing it from the start of the fight.
I can half see KS being a non issue as multiple times it is stated the sharingan and it’s evolutions provide resistance to outright immunity to illusions/Genjutsu. But aizen still wins low-no diff.
@@ethan1441Technically it's hypnosis that changes the viewers perception to what Aizen wants it to be too. Illusions made by chakra feels just different in principle to that.
With many completely taking you out of reality, with Aizens being still grounded in reality that you don't either notice anything is up.
You dumb? Aizen looks at Sasuke gets caught in a genjutsu then well Sasuke can do what he wants.
@@ethan1441 No not at all. Sasuke wins negative diff.
@@choppyhakushoHow? He’s infinitely slower than aizen, less strength, less iq, less hax, he has nothing to fight aizen with. The only thing he has is his dojutsu negating his illusions but even then aizen still just destroys anything sasuke try’s.
As a naruto fan, before even clicking on the video ik aizen wins, im just glad we are seeing ppl put some respect on naruto and sasukes name, getting my guys to solar system to galaxy level
This video is clickbait simply by existing. The only reason to watch it is to make sure you're not uploading a stupid video. Aizen wins 101 out of 100 times. There's no point in making a video out of it.
Your opion and we can debate this
@@Exquizit_scans3838 aizen no diff
Bruh, Aizen wins 1000 out of 100 matches, Sasuke gets badly stomped
Sasuke’s getting his salad tossed and this is coming from a fan of both of them
Aizen gets clapped and this is comin from someone who watched and read both.
Sasuke's ass will be on another planet once Aizen's done kicking it
The thing about this is that even if you take away the Hogyoku away, immortality away, Kyoka sugetsu away, and instant teleportation away. Aizen still wins insanely easily.
Its not really a fair match up whatsoever, Aizen is ridiculously faster and stronger than sasuke.
But anyways, how did you find such high quality of Bleach? What website or streaming site did you find that from?
Biased he would definitely lose
@@Exquizit_scans3838doubt it aizen kido alone will kill sasuke
@@SoloShyguyI highly doubt kido would actually effect sasuke since he has the rinnegan. Sasuke can absorb them since spiritual energy is technically yin chakra.
@@SoloShyguy kido dosent scale anywhere and sasuke can teleport out or use rinnegan to hop in a portal
@@SaberKT14 and when did we ever see sasuke absorb anything after his fight with naruto 😂 and even if he does aizen kido gonna be too much 2 absorb like aizen could literally kill you just be flexing his spritral pressure the whole only people to have that type ft is kagyua and momshiki definitely not no sasuke
Sasuke killing Itachi was part of Aizens plan
That'd be something Aizen would do ngl
Tf Homie sayin
Aizen presence alone will disintegrate sasuke in to nothingness
Let alone hax and immortality factor
Aizen stomps
No he dosent and we can debate it
Yo are you insane, you clearly know nothing of Sasuke
@@Exquizit_scans3838 bro cry about it Aizen is a fucking god tf yall talking about
Hax man let alone power
Just by hax
@@jamevolve8380 lol
@@SHQIPEGHO5T trash
Please make a video on Sung Jin Woo vs The Big 3
We knew who would win also anime express gang
That moon looks much more closer than our moon
Pls do Eida vs aizen or Yhwach can they hurt her ? Or daemon vs haswalth or the guy with the antesisis whose reflection is better ? Will it be a 3 way deadlock
Aizen and especially Yhwach claps, and Jugram absolutely destroys that base Ichigo victim
Don’t think this is really a contest. Aizen is just superior in almost every way. Also nothing sasuke can do would put Aizen down.
I think the issue here is eye contact and whether or not it works on a being that isn’t made of Physical Chákrâ though yang release based Shárīngán gènjūtsū on the six paths level (perceiving the six paths which is what the separated realms represent in a more complex way with a bit more western “upper realms, lower realms and mortal realm” set does make stuff a bit more complex in the two stories’ uses of shintobuddhist ideas about reincarnation and the six paths, though I’ll always say Bleach handles the six paths better from a spiritually realistic standpoint (and I mean leaning towards realism not being “more realistic” in general )…
But Sásūké should be capable of Seeing Aîzèn but touching and and gènjūtsū would Probably need to be at that six paths level… and I mean what happens if he chákrà sucks with dévà path? Should functionally have some abilities equivalent to shinigami like you could argue about Nágàtō’s use of Mádârà’s Rinnégán… but regardless Kïôkà Suígètsū is probably going to affect him regardless of the Rinnégán in fact it might Only work Because he has a Rinnégán! : D
But it’s Almost impossible to win unless Rinnégán gènjūtsū still work despite not having the exact same chákrà system or whatever… man if the 3rd eye was a Rinnégán or Rinnéshárīngán on Aîzèn then there’s no way he wins… so maybe he wins if he can kill before butterflyzen mode? : D still laughing trying to imagine ways where Aîzèn’s arrogance is how he loses underestimating a mortal or whatever… what happens if he uses Àménōtëjíkárà to swap places with him as he does hádō 90 Kūrōhírsūgí?! Or worse the hado 99 five dragon damnation or whatever it is in Japanese ( I can’t be asked to remember and transliterate it properly to be theoretically correct for SpeakFunction if I use alternate viable spellings…
But I’d say Sásūké loses More than 8/10 times probably unless Aîzèn’s being a Moron… which only works if Íchígō’s personal headcanon about wishing someone stronger than him existed and this is why he didn’t evolve an additional time or whatever… but he might just be projecting his own sadness or loneliness of becoming the strongest for less than 5 minutes after 2 months in spacetime transcendent training by imagining having a hypnosis ability with That level of power and thinking “well dang Kísūké I can’t imagine anything but loneliness cause I felt it through his sword… how alone blah blah” if ALL that’s accurate then maybe Rinnégán genjutsu is Fun for him if Sásūké does it right THOUGH Sásūké doesn’t know this guy was about to replace God in his story… so… would he be going all out?! He might be screwed trying to chīdôrí him as soon as combat starts… but some win conditions are just gènjūtsū Working before he uses his Perfect Hypnosis…
Not a good matchup but better than people would generally assume!
Do hotsuma vs kuro (shinobi vs ninja must die)!
All i want say eos Aizen (tybw) Aizen is nerf with the rope on his body. And still can go toe to toe with Yhwach + Soul king. Sasuke aint do nothing to unsealed Aizen not even if Aizen got sealed.
Your pathetic. Aizen can't do anything to Adult Sasuke or Teen.
galaxy multi galaxy ?? 14:47
That's universal+ at the very least
also aizen is 4D the fact that he transcended reason and erased a being that coverns time and space in a hyperspace means he did and was in the data books it was explained as such
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“My interpretation” and “my opinion” ever heard of them ? He was just expressing an opinion 😑
@@DantesolosrealityvaxyretBleach fans imr😭
@@Tempest1018 Your so biased. It's hyperbole when it's Naruto but when it's Bleach it's not right? Overrated ass anime. Multiple fanboys like you massively jack off Aizen and Bleach in general to multiversal but when it's Naruto with clear uni+ to low multi scaling still gets downplayed to solar? Lmao this is sad. It's bias who ever is more lovable or destructive or flashy or colder to you is the winner rather than logic. Barely dived into Sasuke's scaling while majority of the video is basically a rant on why you love Aizen and why he should win rather than using common sense. Even with Sasuke's clear scaling and Kaguya's dimensions each being universal still gets downplayed to solar? Even with Momoshiki's universal sized dimension, tis is sad. How many times does a Naruto character have to commit giant feats like that to install your head that their on that level and higher. Low ball, Mid ball and High balled, Sasuke still claps. Doesn't matter who you think is colder or better written or whatever. Sasuke murders in a fight. Same crap with Kaguya vs Yhwach. The Naruto downplay and the Bleach riding is insane. Stick to Marvel vs DC scaling. Though you got errors in that but far less. Thor vs Superman vid was solid until the end when you said CAS can beat CK Thor which is false also if Rune King Thor was brought into that for the strongest versions battle then no doubt Thor negs. But CK can handle as it is already but at least you know Base Thor violates Base Supes. Anime scaling is not for you. Do comics.
12:30 Saying Yammamoto lost to Royd Loyd is insane Aizen Wanking
To me aizem wins like you said, BUT I wanna say that throught time it has become "common knowledge" that bleach destroys naruto in power scaling, and it makes it sound like there isnt even a possible debate.
So yeah ty for talking about this topic because people theese days debate over EVERYTHING and hearing that something like this "isnt even a debate", coming from people that a lot of times didnt even watch bleach feels really wrong to me.
No Sasuke destroys Aizen, it's common knowledge Naruto violates Bleach in scaling. Idiots like you who either downplay and call everything in Naruto hyperbole or didn't watch it at all is wrong and sad.
We don’t now if he has a bankai but i am pretty shore he does
I am slowly starting to except the higher tier metas for Naruto
can you do sun wukong scale or sun wukong vs lucifer morning star?
Depends on how you scale either
I really like the fact that you acknowledged the different interpretations of each character and at least addressed what you agreed/disagreed with. There was literally no bias. A lot of people tend to only address one meta they agree with like “Universal Bleach” and “Planet Level Naruto” and call it a day. You even addressed some faulty arguments HONESTLY like “Kaguya’s mistranslation” and “Muken is infinite.”
Great video man.
No... He was definitely biased towards Sasuke and even with clear universal+ to low multi scaling he downscales Sasuke to multi solar and discredits him but accepts majority of Aizen's feats and statements? So it's hyperbole with Naruto but not for Bleach and on top of that massively jacked off Aizen to multi galaxy. Lmao. Sasuke spits on him. It's bias, who ever is flashier or more destructive or colder to a fanboy like him he's obviously going to pick rather than use logic. The amount of time he was yapping about Sasuke was hilarious same with the Kaguya vs Yhwach video. He's half pie. Sometimes he's somewhat relevant and logical then other times biased and can hear it in his voice and arguments. Sasuke murderstomps Aizen.
@@choppyhakusho
No he was pretty fair.
11:29
Debunking potential Bleach wank. He accepted every statement for both characters, but he used the REASONABLE interpretations for what they mean.
No need to watch the video. Aizen negative diffs every version of sasuke. Naruto fans wank the verse into oblivion because it’s their favorite show
I could say the same for bleach fans
@@SO6P_THE_GOATWe at least know our limits better than Narutards. I swear people actually think LN Momoshiki stands a chance against Cosmic Fear Garou, lol, Monster Garou solos the verse + Shibai + cope.
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 Shibai solos the bleach fodderverse it's not even close
LN momo solos OPM verse until Saitama gets a new feat, it stays that way so get tf out.
@@SO6P_THE_GOATBullshit. Absolute bullshit. Ichigo negs Shibai with his left nut and Blast negs the verse without his portals
@@SO6P_THE_GOATmy Ninja, no one in Naruto is getting past Galaxy, let alone planetary. Garou's radiation would kill everyone in the verse and no one has resistence or the AP to kill him, not even Saitama did. Monster Garou is overkill, CFM Garou is just bullying. Shit's like putting Tanjiro against Hajun, Naruto, Boruto, and the verse is getting wiped out no diff at worst, no concept of diff at best. Momo can't even beat Boros lmfao
Well based on the lore, they said someone made the moon
Bleach fans have arrived 😑🙏 Clearly people never watch the video for at least 5 minutes before bothering to comment 🤦🏻♂️
I've seen both bleach and naruto to completion and this is not a fight, it's a stomp. aizen would just need to flex his spiritual pressure
Dawg. That's like saying "dbz fan lol" to someone saying Goku stomps Blue from blue's clues. There's just no contest regardless.
I watched the video. Aizen stomps lmao
Aizen negs the verse and it's not even close
Fr@@bootlegspinjutsu9966
Sasuke vs Sosuke
13:18 WHATS THAT SONG
when we are told about the soul society it is always that country in a dome. it's clear that it isn't the realm but the country dome that sits on a planet. we even have multiple soul society like the one in burn the witch.
This comments tell me u never watched Bleach 🤦🏻♂️. Your confusing the SS with the seratai 😂💀
@@Dantesolosrealityvaxyret tell me other societies that exist not in the seratai or that soul king palace that all exist on one planet.
@@eddieboston6540 How tf is the SS A FCKING PLANET IF IT HAE CELESTIAL OBJECTS 🤦🏻♂️. It literally can’t be a planet, stop downplaying mf 🤦🏻♂️
@@eddieboston6540 The place under the dome is the Seireitei and the area surrounding it are the 76 districts of the Rukongai. 'Soul Society' is generally used to describe the spiritual plane that exists parallel to ours, similar to how the 'World of the Living' is used to describe the material plane.
However, just like 'World of the Living' has been used to describe the planet and universe depending on who says it, 'Soul Society' is used to describe the planet or spiritual universe as well. The fact that different people can mean different things when saying them is what causes so much confusion toward scaling. However, since Yamamoto's Bankai is compared to the sun, I'd say the reference to 'Soul Society' being the planet makes most sense.
As for the Burn the With stuff, I'm not super versed on it, but I'm pretty sure it's not located in the same spiritual plane as th afterlife, but a dimension created to house the dragons.
That's the Seireitei....
5:38. It's a mistranslation. The kanji used is "異界" which means another world or next world NOT a parallel universe. World ≠ Universe.
6:03 Kaguya's dimensions are not "large solar system" in size. In comparison to our own solar system (which is 30 trillion km | 18.6 trillion miles and is considered large), Kaguya's dimensions are barely around 150 million km or 93 million miles in size. Some can argue that this cant be classified as Solar Level, but rather as Large star.
6:05 the statements that Kaguya creates her dimension are mistranslation. Kanji used is "Tsugu (つ-ぐ)" and "Kukan(空間)" which translates to "Gathering and assembly of space" which imply Kaguya assembled these dimensions rather than creating them. We've never even received a time frame of this so called creation feat. It could've taken decades, centuries, who knows? The context behind Kaguya's ability is not creating any dimensions because there is no actual proof for that. It's in context to her linking her dimensions with her teleportation ability.
6:24 It's a pocket dimension. Not an actual parallel universe. "それは、彼の構築した異世界の外にまで漏れ出しつつある" - Statement used, which translates to: He was even draining chakra leaking outside the different world he"d constructed.". Different World ≠ Parallel Universe, Momoshiki is barely Large Star to potentially Solar (He scales above Kaguya). Since it's a pocket dimension, Momoshiki doesn't scale to Galaxy level as you implied.
7:34 No. Naruto and Sasuke don't pass Star to Solar System level. Anything above is a wank.
22:09 Muken is stated many times to be infinite. Unohana states that "Muken is completely closed off and infinitely large". Only in the English translations and English Dub, is said that Muken is "Immesurably vast" or "Almost infinite". Those are mistranslations. The manga also states that it stretches to infinity meaning that it expands to infinity.
22:15 Dangai is a hyperspace, confirmed in the light novel: "as such, to prevent these worlds - that is the World of the living as well as Soul Society - from ever contacting one another, a boundary-like hyperspace known as the "Disconnection boundary(Dangai)" must remain pesent among these structures." "Dangai is a disconnected space surrounded by a torrent of layers and layers of time." - Space-time is 4D as it contains a 3D space along with an extra temporal dimension making it 4D. Since the Dangai is Already 4D due to it being a hyperspace and being stated to be a spacetime and having multiple layers of time, the dangai would be a 5D construct (5D with some wank of course.) Also, Dangai further proves that Bleach Cosmology is Low Mutliverse to Multiverse.
24:16 - 25:12 Space-times do not actually give Kaguya 4D AP. Here's why. Space-times have three actual cardinal space axes with an extra temporal one. Three cardinal space axes which is 3D with an extra temporal dimension, not with another cardinal space axis. Four axes would be a hyperspace. Kaguya needs to destroy a three dimensional zone of space on a universal scale. Her dimensions are technically 4D, but also aren't. Kaguya's Dimensions are actually 3D with an extra temporal dimension and it's size is about Large Star to Solar System.
Extra scaling:
Yhwach was going to destroy the main three realms (All Universal+ in sizes, I could just explain the cosmology here, but the comment would be too long. If you want me to explain the cosmology then feel free to ask.), destroy Dangai, and make Garganta collapse, which is a 5D construct, granting Yhwach Low Multi AP and since Ichigo managed to cut and kill Yhwach twice, then he should be relative. Ichigo = Universal+ to Low Multi.
P.S: This comment took way too long to write D:
Writing all this is kinda cringe the just join the discord server😭
@@Tempest1018 Bro don't hurt my feelings. Plez read it.
@@mitzoon. no i did read it. I think you misrepresented EVERYTHING i said. Because I didn’t call momoshiki’s dimension a parallel universe😭 thats why i said join the discord so we can talk there cause i hate comment debating
Are we still doing 4d Naruto characters in 2024 😭were not in 2021
I scale aizen to multi galaxy with lowballing
And scale sauske to planetary with low ball
Okay, im do some early scale for aizen, hes transcended ichigo's dad easily and only final getsuga ichigo transcends aizen stated by him, Ichigo dad was able to hold off dangai with quite easy which is a infinite size place with a separate spacetime making him 4d, aizen transcrnds him making him 5d Ichigo is stated to transcend aizen making him 6d, tybw arc aizen is stronger then final getsuga ichigo making aizen 6d which is low complex or 5d which is still low complex, aizen has erasure resistance as even hado 54 is stated to eradicate ones existence and every hado above that is stronger meaning all of them are erasure existence and none of those could kill aizen, tanked an attack from yhwach which erasured him from all time lines and bleach has infinite time lines stated in LN, aizen has infinite speed as hes faster then every captain in TYBW and captains were dodging attacks stated to be near instant if not instant
Aizen negs the naruto/boruto verse. 3d bums gtfoh😂
Boruto verse is getting stronger everyday don't underestimate it.
@@Ghostyboydead ur right😅 tbh I wrote this on a whim, just to show how much more dominant aizen would be. Boruto is obviously going for uni scaling.
But it still doesn't change aizen slams shippuden.
@@GhostyboydeadTrue, although Bleach isn't getting weaker by a mile. The Hell Arc is still on the table and when that happens the gap will be even further spread out since Hell in the movie was multiversal and when the Hell Arc happens it most likely will be that too, and possibly might be even larger
Sasuke gets clapped negative diff. Aizen is a being that would be more comparable to the otsutsuki god or even above that.
Otsutsuki God are beyond big 3 reach
@@-Archetype_Earth-The Otsutsuki God is 4D, Aizen literally one shot the Cleaner which was 4D
@@Chillchildren999 what did you not understand
Aizen doing that doesn't make him 4D
Shibai is above 4D per chapter 75 lol by not being bound by the concept of space and time, making him 5D or higher
Also Shibai isn't the strongest in the verse as there are God's who created worlds, being omnipotent & omniscient scaling above Shibai
@@Chillchildren999Otsutsuki god is isn't 4D he is litteraly beyond than that like 5D or 6D since he's litteraly a being beyond than the soul reaper in Naruto and beyond than madara limbos clones
fax ,even otsutsuki cant still a chance again aizen
This was a really good video but how do you have aizen stomping sasuke and then say naruto beats ichigo💀
Because that video is old
yeah dumb af
@Tempest1018 Probably should remake it
Be honest have you ever translated that unohana muken scan yourself?? Cuz it doesn’t say that ,,, neither does the anime
Naruto fans will do anything to downplay bleach so much so they call it wank when they can't believe it
Kubo literally introduced new feats in anime which changes whole power scaling for bleach
1.Senjumaru shaking the realms
2.ichigo tanking the weight/sp of all the cosmology of bleach for his candidacy
Aizen craps on the verse
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bro there is litrally no feat to justify that sasuke is galaxy level
People including death battle really under estimate Aizen. Aizen is tiers above Sasuke and Madara in my opinion
This was a great video. A lot of charitable interpretation for both series. I believe Sasuke would win. A lot of the abilities that he has access to that could potentially give him a win condition weren't really mentioned in this video. All in all this was very well made.
Bro Aizen is busted! He literally can’t die from being erased, The fact he could control and SOUL KING ALL MIGHTY BUFFED YHWACH senses of his future that’s a crazy feat to think about 2 bro he literally was the last line of defense for soul society and he did a better job than anyone in the series ong 😂
I would like to hear your reasons. I personally think aizen wins due to his hundreds of years worth of experience and the bullshit he can pull. But Im intrested in your thoughts.
@@xvittsl5383anything else is pure cope from narutards aizen literally cannot die cuh he was literally imprisoned and ywach said he shouldn’t bother trying to kill him. Then he came back from complete erasure. Sasuke gets bitched by a knife thu the eye
It’s funny that whichever the creator says wins the comments follow suit if another creator says sasuke wins 95% of the comments are gonna agree
It's because this guy's a Naruto fanboy. He did an old video and said Naruto beats Ichigo (headcannon). He even said that Ssj2 Gohan vs Boruto is close and gave a bullshit scale for Boruto and gave him Multi Solar 💀💀💀💀. This video is proof of his improvement, but it's like the WIS editor Caramel, it doesn't matter if it's cap or fax, his takes are still ass. Fr tho, Capmel gave Gojo Abilities and Hax over AIZEN, and gave strength to Luffy over fucking ASTA.
People have been down playing Naruto for years now it's kind of insane let's get into the scaling Naruto during the fourth great ninja war was able to stop a total of 5 bijou bombs with only half of kurama overall power kurama in the fourth data book being able to turn the world to Ash again in the 4th Data book with the introduction of KCM2 stated that kcm2 has Earth shattering power so this would narratively be consistent Naruto and Sasuke in final valley we're able to create a multi Continental feat and were able to create a moon level chibuku tensei in Naruto the last a part of Naruto's chakra was able to blow up parts of the moon also toneri casually was able to split the moon and having multiple statements that he could destroy the planet a base Naruto was able to one shot him now let's get to the crazy stuff when Naruto existence was causing tears through the entire when kinshiki discover the tears he had no idea where the Earth was they literally went on whole search and when they found it he said this is the region kaguya was in charge of since kinshiki literally didn't even know where the Earth means these tears were occurring through the entire universe when he found them plus every time the Earth was mentioned it was referred to as a region which means a small area of something larger or an indefinite area of the world or the universe so Naruto's chakras was causing tears through the entire universe this is a casual feat he was literally just existing if I'm not mistaken this would qualify as a universal feat off of him significantly affecting the entire universe significantly affecting could work by shaking the entire universe or warping the entire universe or in this sense affecting space across the entire universe so that's what you get anywhere to universal to high universal depending on how big you think the Naruto universe is.kaguya being able to Warp the entire Naruto universe of course I don't mean the entire Naruto cosmology I mean the main Naruto universe she does this with the ability known as Amenominaka she warps the space of the world or dimensions that she's and and switches it with a different one and the main Naruto space or dimension of course is a universe so she was able to casually warp the entire universe in instant and of course for those who choose to be disingenuous and believe that she just moves the people to the other world just as knowing that kayuga doesn't Warp the people but the spaces themselves if that's not enough for you of course there's evidence it's already blatantly stated in the Data book that she moves the world that she in you can also see motion lines in the space around the characters but not on the characters you can literally see the space getting warped in the manga it stated that she rearranges the spaces how people still deny this is crazy it also says she summons an alternate dimension it also mentions that she transforms the space themselves it also mentioned that she rewrite the world you honestly be better off arguing that the Naruto that the Naruto universe is like a planet in size and no it's not a hacks ability since he's using her own chakra so yes it expands a significant amount of chakra chakra being her life force and her source of energy and gets incredibly consistent talking about other like the 10 tails who's been stated to create the main Naruto universe over seven different times while the remaining four state that the universe was created by yin and yang which is an ability granted by the 10 tails which statement saying that the 10 ten tails has a immeasurable and infinite power. We know that in multiple mediums momoshiki was able to create a parallel universe since every time his is dimension are reference to it uses the word isekai within the boruto movie novelization if you going to any Japanese dictionary or translator you will see isekai means parallel universe isekai other definition means alternate dimension which it can't be because these dimensions have have stars in them meaning that they are inherently bigger than just planet dimensions to validate this we know that in his dimension it was a rising Sun and the light of this rising Sun actually hit boruto just to clarify one more time this sun in the stars that we see are in the same dimension so the only definition would be parallel universe it also States in this novel that kaguya could create isekai which means parallel universe in the anime it stated that she's capable of making a parallel universe the official summaries even back this up provided by the uzumaki report it's like an extended summary says episode 64 rescue Naruto a battle in a parallel universe not just stated ones but stated twice it was even stated he was draining chakra from beyond this parallel universe and a 50% Naruto was able to beat him also kekkai was being used (kekkai) is commonly used in manga/anime to describe a barrier or a pocket universe on larger scales he also ate a star in Shinobi no you novel 3 we don't even have to talk about his speed since we already know he's massively faster than light based off of haku and Madara light fang stop the Naruto downplay
Naruto scaling (specifically toneri, kinshiki) is a lil sus
Manga readers about different levels of power knows just to much big difference. Aizen in tybw 100% power can destroy every character just by reiatsu
I don't much about scaling and I think most bleach characters scale above naruto ones, but what about their techniques? Are you claiming none of the uchiha haxes would work on aizen?
None of the uchiha technique would work on aizen.
@@Gaminglife-sf1ozNothing in the VERSE works on Aizen
ok but how does aizen deal with genjutsu stronger then infinite tsukuyomi?
Basically genjutsu is a manipulation of chakra of an enemy inside their head, all animals and humans in Naruto verse has chakra, and sensor type ninja can check for genjutsu (as Karin checked herself and Sasuke during a fight against Danzou) and probably resist it. So, firstly Aizen does not have chakra, secondly genjutsu seems to not work on souls as Edo tensei Hokages were immune to the Infinite tsukuyomi, thirdly all soul reapers are sensors with ability to manipulate their spiritual pressure freely and sense it. So, it would not work for at least 2 reasons and even if it worked he can resist (he can resist techniques just by emitting his spiritual pressure), moreover his hypnosis is much more devious and cannot be resisted as even Allmighty could not protect against it.
Aizen is much more durable, can be harmed only by spiritual attacks of enormous power, can regenerate endlessly even if he is completely evaporated, can block attacks with spiritual shield automatically, he is faster, stronger, smarter... Each strike of his harms souls... Itachi has his spiritual blade of sealing, Bleach characters all have some type of spiritual weapons.
So, in my opinion Naruto verse measures power by the size of an explosion a character can create or in some similar way. In Bleach the power is hidden usually, only the poorly controlled power emits such destruction (like Lanza del Relampago). What is the point of big explosion if you can severe the head of an opponent by a concentrated strike? So, all bijudamas etc are worthless in comparison. Bleach characters are durable and you need to concentrate your power to slay them.
Infinite Tsukyomi can’t work on Edo Tensei which means it can’t work on dead people, so Spirits shouldn’t be effected by it all which means it won’t work on Aizen
@@dmitriy4708 genjutsu works on beings without Chakra lol watch Hapi explain it
@@-Archetype_Earth- A genjutsu is created when a ninja controls the chakra flow of a target's cerebral nervous system, thereby affecting their five senses... From Narutopedia and is consistent with the explanation in the anime, so... Without chakra - no genjutsu.
@@dmitriy4708 humans & animals didn't have Chakra yet Tsukuyomi affected them
In the Itachi novel, he doesn't need to look at you to be put in it
Chakra is injected after your under genjutsu
watched naruto and bleach and I can say that Aizen solos the verse low diff, bleach is far ahead of naruto in terms of power scaling and hax, although would love to see how strong boruto will be in the future, maybe on par with bleach characters?
Are you dumb? Sasuke negs the verse..
Sasuke caps at Star lvl aizen slams 💀
no bro he scale him perfectly stop dickriding aizen
💀you guys downplay Naruto to the absolute max. Sasuke stomps Aizen go cry about it
@@user-lh7uu5jp5d omg thank you
@@user-lh7uu5jp5d Exactly.
@@user-lh7uu5jp5dAizen slams this Gojo victim fraud
Both tempest victims
Aizen solos the naruto verse what make u think sasuke even stand a chance aizen was able to destroy creatures falling from the royal palace that could destroy the soul society with just flexing his energy while still in a chair and not having all the seals broken like are u serious
Sasuke solos the bleach verse moron. Sasuke could contend and overpower the likes of Madara and match suppressed Naruto.
Shinigami Aizen bodies Current Sasuke 😂 that’s how much juice Aizen has 😎
Aizen ability worked on Yhwach who saw into the future 1000 times lol Sasuke seeing thru stopped time doesn’t top that remotely. Sasuke has nothing that will put down Aizen the fact you’re saying this Aizen against boruto and we never seen Aizen bankai shows how OP he is. Aizen didn’t even feel like Yhwach was worth his bankai. The gap between them is insane since bankai is a x10 multiplexer so Aizen could become 10x stronger. Sasuke gets curbstomped
Atleast there is someone who realises naruto and sasuke are wayyy stronger than multi planetary level .
Am pissed about op fans claiming naruto is continental at best.
Aizen stomps but idk about the whole galaxy lvl thing
Honestly I don’t really get why people scale kagyua to sasuke and Naruto. They aren’t as strong as her. They couldn’t win without using the sun and moon seals. They never showed that they also had the ability to destroy a universe but everyone says that they won so obviously they are stronger than kagyua and therefore universal.
Sasuke literally says he can fight opponents on the level of Kaguya in boruto. Stop the downplay
You forgot to mentioned the Sasuke retsuden where hagoromo achieves star level feats by moving constellations & Travelled from the stars to the earth instantly
Another Uni argument for Naruto is the 10 tails creating the universe & the turtle existing for infinite time
W Aizen wins tho
The Ten tails didn’t create the Universe if that was the case it would’ve been in pair with the Ostutsuki God
@@Chillchildren999 wdym it didn't
@@-Archetype_Earth- lol thats just fan theory
@@danstern102 it's not a fan theory do you research it's stated lol
@@-Archetype_Earth-That makes 0 fcking sense, just saying, the 9 tails was able to hurt it while it was at full power, the 9 tails was stated to be planetary at 50% power, so your argument gets contradicted.
12:27 Yoooo Yamamoto doesn't lose against Lloyd,he leaves Llyod near death literally 😭
He’s literally below a full power base yhwach but above Lloyd while weakened
@@Tempest1018in your own words, you said "during the war against the soul society, ichigo would lose against yhwach and yamamoto would lose against royd lloyd" and what i'm making a correction that, yamamoto beat royd lloyd then the real yhwach arrived, stole his bankai and killed yamamoto.
so yamamoto lost to yhwach not royd lloyd, that's all i'm saying.
She said the SLIGHTEST USE Of HER POWER ,,,,, not her Bankai
Slightest use of her true power. Combined with the fact that the seal is for their "true swords," and it's clear she was talking about her bankai. Plus, that's what we're shown
@@corruptangel6793 she never said slightest use of true power …
@@gralegambino1433
Dub: "Even the slightest exertion of our FULL powers would cause the heavens and earth of all three worlds to tremble. That is the reason our lives have all been linked to one another for so long. To make sure our true swords would be sealed away."
Sub: "Even the slightest use of our powers would cause the heaven and earth of the three worlds to tremble. Because of that, we linked our lives to one another to seal away our TRUE swords."
@@corruptangel6793 true swords . Means this final stage of zanpakto …. Something Aizen reached … you can still use shikai in that state …
@@gralegambino1433 True swords mean Bankai, the physical manifestation of a Zanpakuto's true form and power.
What Aizen and Ichigo did wasn't any final form. You can't use shikai, the partial release of a Zanpakuto's true form, if you don't have a Zanpakuto. His Zanpakuto crumbled away, remember? How can something that doesn't exist showcase its true form? What Aizen uses isn't shikai, but what is now HIS ability to control the senses.
Same with Ichigo. He doesn't become Zangetsu. He becomes one with Getsuga Tenshou, the ability. That's why Zangetsu ceases to exist, and Ichigo holds pure energy when using Mugetsu.
What if sasuke had the hyogyoku and Naruto had true bankai like ichigo eos
First of all two things you left out
1: naruto characters don’t scale to theyre feats just because kaguya can make a dimension doesn’t mean she’s multi dimensional etc
Evidence: as she still needed the chakra of all the people on the planet 🌎 and the god tree just t destroy the planet they were on making she doesn’t scale to her abilities
2) ichigo and aizen do scale to two god absorbed juha cause in bleach you can only cut someone that is around your level of power and ichigo killed juha multiple times in theyre battle and juha changed the future. Shame on you for not noticing that fact
Please stop pitting naruto characters and bleach characters against each other it’s not even close bleach wins in all categories in power
I’m not entirely knowledgeable on how “cutting” Yhwach in that form counts as an AP feat since he seems to shrug it off until he’s stripped of power entirely. But regarding that FIRST POINT…. There’s at least 3 lines of thinking that would go against that I can think of.
All of the chakra that the shinobi alliance had was very small compared to the ten tails anyway, so she wouldn’t really have gotten a “buff.” Remember, Naruto could make essentially every fodder in the WORLDS MILITARY borderline 10x kakashi’s level. And he only had half of the nine tails to do that.
1. Kaguya being the complete ten tails (or at least would be complete with Naruto’s half) would eclipse the alliance in power and really gain almost nothing from them. Like imagine if Naruto took back the chakra HE GAVE the alliance… would it be a crazy buff for him?
2. Naruto characters would scale to their abilities unless they’re hax based. Like imagine if Naruto got one-shot by somebody else doing Rasengan… Would be ludicrous wouldn’t it? The abilities that cause destruction is using their own energy to do so, so unless another reason is given it would scale to the character. And the method Momoshiki uses when “creating” these solar-galaxy ranged dimensions is never specified. So you can’t really argue its “hax.” Momoshiki, until further evidence is given, would scale to his own dimension via creation.
3. About the whole Kaguya thing, the god tree’s chakra was originally hers anyway if I’m not mistaken. But even if I’m WRONG… We have like 3 otsusukis who are stronger than the Kaguya who almost blew up her dimension. So even if you think Kaguya was “buffed” for that and I didn’t convince you otherwise, Naruto and Sasuke should still have scaling to even more impressive beings than “buffed” Kaguya.
Now you wanna downplay the Naruto verse and say they don't scale to their feats while jacking off Bleach.
She didn't need it she was completing a task given to her and the god tree takes all the chakra because they wish to ascend to godhood.
Wrong. Ichigo and Aizen both got destroyed while teaming so they don't scale to that especially Aizen. Shame on you for lying and downplaying to overrate and jack off your favorite verse. Ichigo killed Yhwach once with help then the second time with the arrow.
Don't talk moron, Naruto characters destroy bleach characters, Naruto wins in all categories.
This the same guy that says Naruto beats Ichigo but now saying Aizen beats Sasuke and to my knowledge Ichigo scales higher than Aizen sooo does that mean Naruto also beats Aizen?
Here's the facts, no one in naruto scales to Ichigo after his dangai or mugetsu transformations, the only versions of ichigo naruto can Maybe contest with are the forms before he goes into the dangai and that's a big maybe,
Also kanzen saimin isn't like a genjutsu, it doesn't matter if you know you're under the hipnosis or not there isn't anything Sasuke can do about it unless he scales to someone like Ywach which is highly unlikely, the naruto verse is strong but not bleach level strong not even close
Naruto vs ichigo was made one full year before this one. Arguments have changed and you can clearly tell the difference in quality and scaling. Im remaking naruto vs ichigo.
We got another idiot 💀😊
Aizen 4D- universal
Sasuke at least star-solar system
Is this a debate?
aizen is not definitive uni wtf 😂
they can both be scaled to uni
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@@imtruIy No character is definitively anywhere sasuke can be "scaled to uni" but aizen can be scaled to complex multi all the way to high hyper High balling them both aizen utterly obliterates low balling them both aizen still one shots so no this isn't a debate or close in any way aizen atomizes
@@thegreatlordofall1278 the fact that aizen has the Hōgyoku : its true power lies in its ability to sense the hearts of those around it and materialize their deepest desire.
If we law ball that statment that's outerversal since if he desired to be above all dimentionality he'll reach that
The only thread for aizen is sasukes time space ability and his rinnesharingan
No Sasuke negs.
There is no threat Sasuke poses, Aizen destroys in base.
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 alright let’s debate aizen base vs adult sasuke
@@bootlegspinjutsu9966 Lmao are you dumb? Aizen poses no threat to Sasuke at all.
@@Anubis336 Sasuke violates Aizen. It’s funny how people call nearly everything in Naruto’s databooks and statements hyperbole to avoid the fact it scales that high but takes everything literal for bleach. It’s pathetic. Sasuke murders Aizen.