Goku vs The Big 3 With Every Power is Unfair...
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- #dragonball #anime #naruto #bleach #onepiece
The topic of Goku vs the Big Three has been discussed for ages, but the brand new debate of Goku vs the Big Three with every power is reletively new! Does Goku vs Luffy, Goku vs Naruto and Goku vs Ichigo change if they gain every hax ability from their respective series? Let's find out! - Krátké a kreslené filmy
“It’s Just Big Me” - Goku
Seems like it
WHY ISN'T MR SATAN'S DYNAMITE PUNCH IN THE VID IM FNNA UNSUBB
Also hi lonk👋
BUM
@@void_fruit212 the strongest move in fiction
@@void_fruit212 He said he needed to make them as strong as reasonably possible
With Dynamite punch Goku would even have a fight, I'd just be an execution
"F*ck the big 3, it's just big me." - Kaka-Dot
Oooo theres another me over there
K-Rot
Kaka-Goat
It's still K-Dot LOL
Luffy u right about fuck the 3 there's only Big D in Video PROFF
Even after all this time it’s crazy to think that Guldo, freaking Guldo has a better control of time stop than Hit. So since Frieza doesn’t need to breathe, Goku can just hold his breath and stop time indefinitely.
Damn you right, but I mean grand priest abilities have better control over time and can reverse it so that’s what always was supposed to happen (no flashpoints).
Goku can move in stopped time he doesn't need to worry about any of that as we say he can do this multiple times he has inaccessible speed
Also, Goku has the power to turn people into carrots by touching them (That one Rabbit guy who was punted into the moon by pre hermit school Kid Goku)and also has the ability to kill people if they have even a HINT of impurity in their heart (Devilmite beam) and invisibility (Yamcha fight)
Monkey wins
@@Devilboy_1029can't he also copy the other 3's abilities therefore their whole verse's abilities? 73 can do that💀
Guldo's time stop lasts as long as he can hold his breath.
A bunch of characters in DB don't need to breathe.
Therefore, time is already permanently stopped for this fight.
then Goku uses true erasure (Zeno's ability) to erase them from existence
Also Goku can gain Immortality.. yeah bro be unbeatable 💀
Because they don’t need too doesn’t mean it’s a ability
@@thegreatbeaverswell Luffy would be immortal, Naruto would technically immortal and ichigo is just effing bonkers with all the bankai, resurreccions and the Sternritter abilities
Ssg surpasses time good try though
Goku would straight up be Son Wukong 💀
Son Gukong
Far weaker but essentially very similar.
Walmart version of him but yeah that still means goku gonna beat the big 3
Nowhere near as strong. Not even Rimuru’s lvl. Still a lot of the anime’s that neg Db verse STILL neg him.
Cannon Goku Negs Rimuru In Base Bro. That Transgender Kid Has Been Debunked To Universal@@jameschristopher2540
TFS Goku: "umm im going to hakai you now"
Why would he do that when he’s got a far superior ability in Zeno’s eraser ability
@@razzo086but he can use hakai he did it in the manga against zamasu
@@z1nin yeah I know, there is nothing that I don’t know about in db
@@razzo086 he doesnt have abilities like zeno unless were talkin about kakumei goku
@@z1nin no I was talking about the premise of this video ‘if Goku had all the powers of the db universe’. It just a stupid what if scenario.
A ninja, a ghost and a pirate can’t beat an alien god. Big shocker.
Well technically Naruto is half alien and we would consider Luffy an alien since he isn’t obvious on a planet like earth.
@@Stunt877 negawatt
@@Stunt877do u know what an alien is? Someone not native to the planet. Luffy is native to the planet
@@Stunt877yo, im not that big on naruto but is he really part alien ?
"Cell's Multiform technique"
Ah yes, the move he inherited from Tien-
It's tiens technique but cell perfected it
Big three: lets do this
Goku: xenoverse ssj goku loading screen
Edit:dont cause a war down there otherwise I'll have to spank all of ya'll with my sandal
We doesn't need xeno goku.
Dbs goku solo them😂
@@RED_RIBBON17**Prowler’s theme intensifies**
God fusion goku:hey there we are goku
Isn't Xenoverse Goku non-cannon?
@@AlwaysOfflineForever It’s a meme.
Search: “Ssj Xenoverse Goku prowler theme”
Goku - raises his hand
The big 3 - oh shi
*Gets erased*
How is Goku erasing Naruto forever with Infinite Izanagi ?
@@danielgedeon6454 Goku can wish that nurato is a normal human
@@danielgedeon6454 Zeno erased Zamasu from existence who had the dragon grant him invincible body which literally made him unbeatable through damage among other things and Zeno still erased him.(The entire universe at that point since Zamasu literally became it) In other words Zeno has power which gives the middle finger to immortality and other things the Super Dragon wishes could even do making him literally omnipotent or beyond.
I know this is a dumb argument but technically we've never seen super Shenron make a wish for itself
@@markjack9772 Goku makes a clone like tien and then wishes to himself ig
you forgot that toriyama actually exists inside of dragon ball, so he can literally write the story
He goes from being stated strongest in the verse to saying he can’t beat Great Ape Kid Goku so I decided just not to include it😭
@@lonkstakesthat shows how strong great ape is,even stronger than the author
Fun fact: There's a character that 100% canon to dragon ball that would make every other power and ability goku has irrelevant and that's tori bot which would give Goku the power of the author
Not necessarily. The author only has power within and over his own story, since other stories have different authors. So although he could rewrite anything in his own story, he can't do so with other ones. Within his story, he can only be stronger than or limited to whatever is shown in it.
@@Deon.Z true but then again he'd just be able to write himself to be infinitely stronger but this is a big if as Goku wouldn't be the type to go this
Thinking about Goku ripping off a piece of himself to absorb someone like The Thing is so cursed
“Hey, you’re now me Goku!”
Hey it's me Goku 2
Hey it’s me Goku 3
@@void_fruit212 GoTwo
@@KuroFrog Go3
bro literally got free timestop now
That actually wouldn't work on Ichigo since he has Mimihagi's powers. Mimihagi is the embodiment of stagnation and could not be seen by The Almighty, implying it has Acausality, AKA, immunity to almost all timehax.
Dude you nailed it.. I was thinking the whole video TIME FREEZE TIME FREEZE TIME FREEZE!!!
*Ichigo:* _[has all of Katen Kyokotsu's abilities to make children's games real]_
*Goku / Luffy / Naruto:* "Fuck."
*Yugi and Kaiba:* "OH MY EGYPTIAN GOD, _THANK YOU."_
The image of a goku action figure just looking down at his defeated opponents is just hilarious
timestamp?
@@froliy you have to imagine it
@@nicholasaugello2534I need you in my life
I’m about to buy big 3 action figures just to do this
Ill do you one better. The goku figure has that one sinister patrick star face.
It’s ironic cos dragon ball hax is never hyped up but some how Goku still wins
Partially why I made this video at all
It's because most Dragon Ball hax are overcome by simply being stronger than the hax.
Don't want to lose to Hit? Simply be so fast and combat smart that when he "skips" time you are already beating his ass. Opponent has insane regeneration, hit them with a massive beam that covers their entire body 50x over and completely obliterate them on the atomic level. Is a Gag character beating you because they are a gag character? Just be so strong that gags cease to work on you and Hakai them.
In Dragonball hack resistance is just a perk of being strong, in that regard Dragonball hax really don't fit the traditional definition.
@@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 dont want to loose to MUI? Simply be faster and you'll touch him
horse sht writting
@@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 this is interesting cos then in cross verses scaling shouldn’t this power, speed and combat intelligence be taking into account if a hax would be valuable against a dragon ball character at all sometimes it is but I feel like we don’t talk about it enough
I'm surprised gremmys power of imagination wasn't mentioned
Not even the Hōgyoku was mentioned either
It wouldn’t change anything, Gremmy still lost with it. It’s not invincible.
Ichigo would end up killing himself
@@UltraRaptor123Gremmy lost because of he’s a child and wasn’t smart, he amped kenpachi in that fight by believing kenpachi to be an unstoppable monster
@@sean-jq7hs Ichigo would do the same to Goku.
That isn't Goku, thats Majin Cell the Destroyer 😂
Super shenron
That's it
Also Zeno
@Sansnmm zeno is basically featless beyond having a very overwhelming ability. In fact he couldn't even see some of the opponents in the tournament of power.
Also Arale
@IzBirch Zeno destroyed the universes of the losers of the tournament of power, destroying the gods of destruction, the only reason Goku won was because of his own attack that broke his limits into ultra instinct and the spirit bomb was deflected by jiren
@@IzBirchso he still wins
It's kinda sad that whenever we have a BIG 3 vs anyone type situation it usually starts with everyone agreeing that Luffy is the first one to get knocked out
Agreed. I haven’t watched op but how do you think he’d fair? What are the most op DF abilities.
I know Op isn’t close to finishing. So he still might get more op (no pun intended). How op can he get? Like is their some powers left he still hasn’t touched.
Something about will of D idk honestly.
@@jameschristopher2540Luffy has some decent hax and abilities but in terms of raw stats, Naruto and Ichigo out stat Luffy by a lot
@@jocoolshow so with every ability in his verse would he be able to affect Goku? Remember he also has equal stats so no blitzing and stuff.
@@jameschristopher2540no lmao
@@jocoolshow Naruto doesn't out stat Luffy at all. Sanji's brothers, who are literal background fodders compared to Luffy can use lightspeed attacks and move even faster than those attacks. Next take into account how much larger everything is in One Piece. Luffy has enough fire power in one punch to destroy the Leaf Village 50 times over
Hey bro cool video , got a few random video requests:
- Obito and Madara ( war arc versions) vs S class heroes ( excluding blast)
- Awoken Hit vs SSR Goku black
- Cell vs Cosmic Garou
- DMS Kakashi vs Indra mode sasuke ( final valley)
- could Dms Obito defeat Madara?
- Gojo vs luffy
- Gojo vs Each Akatsuki in a 1v1
- Sukuna vs Each Akatsuki in 1v1
- Dangai Ichigo vs Baryon mode Naruto
- Gojo vs Each s class hero in a 1v1
- Darth Vader vs each mcu villain or each avenger in a 1v1
- Sauron vs Palpatine ( EU)
-Doomslayer vs Dante or Kratos
- what if Ichigo and Naruto switched fights?
- what if Kratos and Goku switched fights?
for the hobi hobi no mi i think that a case could be argued for that because "It would seem that Devil Fruit powers also become unusable, as Nico Robin was rendered helpless by her new form." meaning that could be the case for any power as even the persons physical strength gets taken away. Plus ontop of that sugar can issue commands to the toys, so luffy could say "don't try and change form" or whatever
At first I thought this was a wacky video, but it actually makes you appreciate all the crazy stuff that has happened all over Dragon Ball history.
And the other big 3
Even without the overwhelming reality warping powers of the dragons and Xeno, Time Skip alone pushes Goku over the edge of absurdity.
He’s over millions of times faster than light.
Even if Time Skip only lasts a fraction of a second imagine how much he could do in that short amount of time.
The other three would be dead instantly
goku even without everyones powers is beyond infinite speed he does not need timeskip
You're forgetting that the basis for the video is equal stats. The person who made the video also forgot about the power of the Soul King, basically God. It's Zeno's powers but better
@@thatonerandommf zenos power isnt anywhere near gokus best ability in this fight so that doesnt really matter and one devilmite beam and ichigos dead
@@GODEATER2 Zeno is the strongest thing in Dragon Ball
@@GODEATER2 Also it wouldn't work since Ichigo, as a Soul Reaper, is a higher dimensional being. This is backed up using dragon ball logic where characters tank attacks by outscaling it. And that's just regular Ichigo. In this situation he'd have the Soul King's abilities which literally just make him God
Fantastic video I think Wabisuke combo'd with Senbonzakura allows thousands of hits that double a person's weight each time. Add on Katen Kyōkotsu Shunsui's zanpakutou ability to force anyone to play by the rules that are set, and Ichigo basically becomes a reality warper as long as he can stay a step ahead. Goku still obviously blitzes but Considering the sheer number of unique abilities in Bleach i really think Ichigo would give him a fight he would never forget even without getting into Inoue's ability to reject anything in the bleach universe which might even give Ichigo an edge that could block Xeno's powers.
Nice vid bro but Base Goku is already at Complex Multiversal his sheer power alone can already bypassed all of this hax but it is a very interesting take that they have all the powers in their series though
Goku literally becomes Omnipotent.
Wish granting, reversing time, skipping time, travel in time, erasure, regeneration to the point of unkillable, immortality, absorbion, telekinesis.
And that's only what my lazy ass is writing for you
Edit: DAYUM im famus
also androids dosent need to breath so its just a inf time stop
@@MrFish-oo2vx Oh dear god you're right. and this doesn't even scratch the surface of what goku could do. someone made a video about if goku had every ability in his verse and it would be just INSANE.
I think goku could beat superman at this point
He'd be below Xeno Goku or CC Goku still sue to verse cosmology.
@@zanzax6438depends on the version, there's versions such as Pre Crisis and Sword Of Superman and Prime One Million that this Goku could pretty easily beat but there's other versions such as Strange Visitor, Superman Blue, Sting Superman, Lee Superman, Milk-Man Man, Post Crisis Boom Tube Amped Superman, Cosmic Armour, Rebirth, Story Of Superman, etc..... and all of them could solo both this theoretical Goku and Xeno Goku effortlessly.
Goku having multiple kinds of immortality in this what if is so fitting considering his roots as a version of the Monkey King, whom became immortal five different times or something
I think he had 100+ levels of Immortality.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki6, actually
@@fizbutreal my bad lol, I mightve been thinking bout someone else who had hundreds of layers of Immortality and hax abilities.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki yeah its alr
Yeah lol, Sun Wukong immortality comes from:
1) Erase his name from the destiny book of the underworld
2) Drink the elixir of life
3) Eat the immortality peach
4) Eat the immortal pearl while inside the magical furnace that suppose to kill him only make his skin so hard it turned impenetrable and give him lazer eyes =)))
5) After finishing the Journey to the West, he ascended Buddhahood and name "Victorious Fighting Buddha" prety sure he also granded another immortality on top as well LOL.
that ultra golden frieza render genuinely startled me. the shaft follows me everywhere
Goku with every abilities in DB would literally be Cosmic level threat within many verse.
Just imagine his aura alone can passively erased someone out of existence at conceptual, information, and historic level.
I mean he would have Zeno's powers so he can just decide that his opponents don't exist anymore and he wins
@@Zihark_majority of stronger verses have erasure resistance, or straight up just can’t be erased so yea
he gets the abilities of the super dragon balls, he can just make anything appear and or disappear at the will, he also has xeno's power just erase them from exsistence
@@itsbrrightYea but the big 3 don't
@@Lance-wn9dc They actually do. Yhwach said 'no' to Ichibei trying to erase him, and Aizen later did the same to Yhwach.
this isn't close because if he 'has every power in their respective anime" then he has zeno's powers which means he'd just have to erase them lmao
Depends on if xeno can affect other realities or just the dragon worlds version of reality
@@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985 add more context.
@@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985seems like he can
@@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985under this scenario it would work, also Zeno isn’t stated to have any restrictions on his power he’s not like alien x where he has 50 statements of random weaknesses.
@@darkmagiccardsyugioh2985zeno literally erased a timeline which holds one DB multiverse. In fact he’s shown he can erase past one timeline as infinite zamasu was traveling past the db multiverse. Zeno is easily hyper with no limitation otherwise the angels probably wouldn’t have rebelled
Counter to Deamon hax? Passively reflect any attack or killing intent is mad OP
Luffy and Naruto aside: Ichigo also has acess to time stop (kido) and wish granting/reality manipulation (Hogyouku/Visionary/ many others).
The Main advantage I can see for Ichigo to possibly win, would be Mimihagi's stagnation.
Since both Ichigo and Goku would be able to erase basically all existence in all dimensions and timelines, Ichigo having the abilities of the characters that existed before those concepts existed (5 Ancestors of the 5 Great Noble Families / Ichibei / Soul King) he would be able to not only exist there, but also Stagnate Goku.
And since he has All Mighty combined with Book of the End, he can make Ichibei's bankai be a fixed future/past 💀
Lonk didn’t even bring up the Tori-Bot, who can manipulate the narrative since it’s the embodiment of Akira Toriyama.
Ok let’s not go there. Or we’d have to use Ten Ten and Teuchi to even the odds.
Goku has the Farmer’s Shotgun
@@TheUncivilizedNationOH GOD NOT THE SHOTGUN
arale
That would be funny but this video does only use canon characters
Theres also whis' time rewind ability. We know time manip in dragonball causes an alternate timeline, but whis specifically can rewind every single timeline all at once. Which 100% counters almighty. Cant choose a future when every timeline is being reversed
Super Shenron basically has every single ability known to Dbz/DBS because of his wish granting abilities with no draw backs.
wtf are you talking about that’s not what whis does
Whis also doesn’t counter AllMighty since AllMighty negates any powers he can see/perceive.
@@ThyBait he cant negate an infinite amount of gokus abilities
@@GODEATER2 “an infinite amount of goku abilities” if only you could read
Remember that sternritter who can think something and that becomes the reality.... Yea... Bleach has that too
And the hogyuko
Tier 2 vs Tier 5 characters how will this go such a mystery
Its unfortunate that every dragon ball power includes arale and toribots script manipulation. The big threes powers are still confined into their own fictional verse.
toribot isn't a character in db verse
@@shirosatsuma4946toribot appears multiple times throughout the manga and a couple in the anime, he infact appears more than arale, though goku could just replicate author powers with all the powers he has.
@@yourm8596 yeah no he never appears in the actual verse, just in manga covers or notes. He's not actual character in it
@@shirosatsuma4946yourm is right
@@shirosatsuma4946might be Mandela, but I'm sure he talks to Krillin
It definitely won't make a speck of difference however I could totally see Luffy being a little jokester and use the Horu Horu no Mi on everybody just to see their reaction.
Whats that devil fruit ability again i forgot 😅
@@patrickzepol1893someone's skipped thriller bark 😢
Or the jacket jacket fruit
@@TrollingYesCome on he is not the only one, i watched every OP episode 2 years ago and i cant remember an arc barely passed through because i didnt have time at that moment just tell us if you know
@@TrollingYes that's the Horo Horo no Mi not the Horu Horu no Mi
His zenkies bout to be crazy
I don't really know how much it would affect the fight but if Ichigo have every ability from his verse, he'll have the abilities the hogyoku gives Aizen, which is, manifest the desires of those around it, immortality, regeneration, and the power to create illusions, also btw having Aizen's perfect hypnosis would work against Goku, it doesn't matter how strong his will or brain is or if he isn't using his brain, I doesn't just mess with the brain, it messes with all senses, so him attacking without thinking would be almost a down side to him, plus he gains the abilities of Orihime's spirit abilities which actually have time manipulation that would allow him to move through stopped time and reality rejection, so that wouldn't help Goku, horn of salvation to manipulate fate to his will, he has the imagination ability (I forgot the characters now he get's it from) but he could use that to imagine that Goku got hit by Ichibe's name change ability and he'll actually get hit, just like how the guy with the ability imagined that Kenpachi was sent to space and he was literally sent to space, don't forget about weapons from bleach either and they're abilities he has the power of the soul king, but idk if this would help either, but he could open portals to hell whenever he want because his son Kazui, who is canon btw
Finally someone with an iq above 130 points
Cool and all but of you compare them to gokus abilities its over
Bro literally has the author power
Don’t forget that since Tori-Bot has appeared in the Manga before, Goku would have his abilities too (and since he’s basically the author, Goku can just make the story whatever he wants).
Indeed and Toribot can be considered a character since Krillin directly mentioned him in the Buu Saga.
@@FagnerLSantos I thought it was a gag...
@@jameschristopher2540 toribot is a living character in Dr slurp, since Dr slurp island is somewhere in DB map it considered canon
@@flowclown9179 so what exactly can ToriBot do?
@@jameschristopher2540it’s basically the creator of dragon ball
Yet people have the nerve to say Dragon Ball doesn't have enough hax abilities and are weak😂
Plus goku can use super shenron powers to have any wish he wants lol
@@shido_rimru_shenron can’t grant his own wishes lol
@@darnellwoods8986he can always force wishes onto the big three like "I want to fucking die," and boom, they're dead as fuck
@@darnellwoods8986 it's not that serious lol
@@shido_rimru_ it’s not just correcting u by telling u shenron can’t grant his own wishes. ichigo can’t imagine goku out of existence lol
Does anyone know the artist of the Goku in the thumbnail?
the specail beam cannon is a peirce type ki and dystructo disk is a slice type so in different situations it can be used over the kamehameha
I don’t think the people who made that battle royale truly understand how broken Goku with EVERY ability in his verse would be. Cuz not only does he still massively outstat the Big 3, but he can now destroy them with hax.
Immortality, Broly’s adaptability, Zeno’s more broken erasure, time skip and stop, Big Gete Star duplication, Moro and Babidi’s magic, Frieza’s potential, Goku Black’s space-time ripping, Super Shenron wish powers, Whis’s time rewinding, whatever deus ex machina powers Grand Priest has, Buu’s absorption, ability to breathe in space, Shin’s Kai Kai technique, Android’s infinite stamina, literally so much more.
And that’s not even getting into non-canon abilities and characters yet!
Cooler isn't canon.
Turning people to carrots
Ichigo with every ability in his verse is also extremely broken the only ability that really Goku has that's a big thing is instant existence Erasure buddy has worse hacks Ichigo except for that
I dont think infinite stamina matters cause the nikyu nikyu no mi can just reflect tiredness wnd fatigue
@@markjack9772bro can just wish him away
Honestly this would've been more fair if it was just Normal Goku but even then Goku just casually Fondles. It really is just Big Him.
I mention that at the start. If it was unequal stats he still just blitzes. But if it’s equal stats and normal Goku, he’s cooked
@@lonkstakestrue. But still, Goku cooks here.
@@lonkstakes If it's equal Stats normal Goku literally gets Packed by Either Luffy or Naruto or Ichigo I 1000% agree
Stamina is not that great, he doesn't have that many Abilities or Haxes. The only thing would be his Battle IQ but even then Naruto has Battle IQ as well he's keeping up.
@@lonkstakes Great video by the way I'm already subbed but you need this 100k bruh it's a Necessity 🐐
@@TheeSinnermanhe's a much more skilled martial artist than all of em(that's the only rebuttal I have towards your comment) but when equalizing stats thats kind of hard to use in an argument against 3 other people then when you throw hax on there it's really not looking good for goku at all
There's two Xeno's in Goku's universe. If he has all his verse's abilities, he wins. He destroys the entire universe with ease.
11:07 He also has Whis' time stop/reversal abilities.
I'm glad that the equal power caveat was put in. It made it so that there was actually a discussion, instead of just "base Goku still wins before the others can even think." That said, Dragon Ball hacks are low key pretty intense. They are just generally outshined by shear power scaling, since DB characters overpower hacks with power.
0:02 IS THAT LR AGL ULTIMATE GOHAN’S INTRO OST!?!?? (W vid btw, I’m just in love with Gohan’s OST)
Just wait for when the active skill ost starts :)
I mean if you include Eida's ability, you also need to include Daemon's which is basically that if you even think about hurting him the same scale of attack reverses back to you. So if you think of erasing him from existence, you would get erased instead.
But that cant happened if time stopped
I forgot the character name
But one of the character in dragon ball has a body that transports the damage into different dimension
So Goku would take no damage
If you do decide to do a part 2, including non canon or abilities with shaky canon could be interesting. Madara's time rewind ability for example could potentially make it a stalemate in the time category where Naruto uses his many layers of precognition, energy reading, ocular prowess and infinite Chakra to reset the battlefield if time is about to be stopped.
Omnipotence could then simply be used as a counter measure for the brokenesque Zeno/wish type abilities or to amp his own time reversal effectively making him immune to Goku's and vice versa.
This would allow Ichigo and Luffy to go at Goku with much more freedom and maybe make Ichigo landing one of his broken hax more feasible.
Of we include non canon then that means stuff like fortnite and jump force can be used, SDBH to. Xenoverse to.
That would make the battle closer, as all of the big 3 and goku show up in jump force. And many in forenite. And luffy is in sdbh.
2 words buddy....xeno goku
@@nuclearwaste2062it'd be even more of a wipe, cause now you got xeno goku hax and abilities
He has Zeno's erasure, is already faster than time infinte ultra instince and ultra ego
*and just the super dragon balls are enough*
Yh but normal Goku would lose neg diff
@@jameschristopher2540 nah, he'd blow up the universe
Nah goku would win
@@Docteur_Hex and Ichigo alone is universal at base. With the hax he’d erase him.
@@jameschristopher2540 explain how
Simple, Goku Solos.
Goku is just BIG STRONK
Goku solo
A close match tho
@@jameschristopher2540no lmao 💀
@@_Deleto_ how? Every verse has existence erasing hax. Idk about one piece cos I didn’t watch it. But maybe his gag abilities with equal stats give Goku a hard time.
what about the balance or the antithesis?
Equalized Stats Idea:
Goku (either just him or whole DB series like this) vs Jotaro but he has the power of every character in the series (anime and manga). Who wins that? Bc you've got GER, D4C, Soft and Wet, Tusk, WoU, and MiH and tons more all combined into one stand. Body/Mind of Ultimate Kars, speed of Pucci, I mean that's a strong opponent right there.
This is just on Ichigo's end, as I felt like he was being cut short compared to say Naruto.
But if you want my honest thought (this is based on my current knowledge of One Piece):
Goku beats all of them, but with Ichigo, he will have the toughest fight between all 3.
I don't think Goku will have much trouble with Shinjutsu, since it hasn't manipulated reality to the same extent Infinite Zamasu exists in (plus its kind of low tier reality warping compared to what Ichigo may have, as all it did was change their memories but its currently not working fully). Ichigo has better offers through the following:
Hogyoku can grant wishes and make them reality.
Gremmy's imagination hax.
Reio's reality warping powers by maintaining the concepts of life and death.
Orihime's causality manipulation, Haschwalth's the Balance, and Uryu's Anti Thesis, all of which are the best options Ichigo has to get around Goku's deadlier abilities or Ultra Instinct (if possible).
With the Almighty being better than all those powers (Ichigo would also have Reio's version).
A few other things as well that weren't mentioned or are better versions than what was brought up.
Mimihagi's stagnation (which can counter a few other options for Goku like prevent him from evolving).
A better option from Loyd's copying ability (outside the fact Ichigo would have his growth rate, alongside Kenpachi, Aizen, Toshiro, and several more in one, and Ichigo has the best growth rate in verse), would be Pernida's ability to evolve by absorbing the information from its target.
Fullbring's powers to control the soul within matter, but the more insane part is that it gets to where it manipulates the laws of physics.
Much like Goku, Ichigo would also be immortal (can live for an eternity, regenerate from his soul being erased to nothing, exists between life and death, can ressurrect, has reliant immortality through an item, etc.) on top of infinite stamina through Aizen and Reio, and several options, as well as various forms of spatial and temporal hax (he can BFR someone to another point in time with the Kototsu, stop time with a Kido, etc)
And lastly since its pretty late and I don't feel like listing every possible hax on Ichigo's end, its Askin, I think he was cut short, he can not only manipulate poisons, but he can also make himself immune to your attacks.
This is all just a surface level look btw, I just feel like on Ichigo's end he was cut short, especially since by feats, I feel like Ichibei's hax is above Omnipotence but it was glossed over.
Ichibei’s power is incredibly strong and I didn’t go into much detail. But it is far more conditional than Omnipotence when used by Shibai, at least how we understand it.
I mentioned other things outside of Ichibei's hax that would work better than Shibai's Omnipotence and they wouldn't be as conditional, or they suit better, like Haschwalth's the Balance.
@@Shinigami-gm9mf that ability can create worlds not only mind hax
It's reality warping not low tier imo
@@-Arcueid_Brunestud- I said compared to what Ichigo would have in comparison.
I agree, even if the outcome doesn’t change, ichigos powers were incredibly neglected and made it seem like a one sided curve stomp for goku, when that isn’t the case, ichigo very well puts up a fight i feel like more research could’ve been done for ichigo before making this video
Love the Lr Ultimate Gohan intro ost you got. Nice
The day I stop using Dokkan ost is the day I stop making videos
@@lonkstakesdo you play? Or are you just a connoisseur of peak
@@lonkstakesdude you forgot an important ability from bleach and that's gremmys shcrift. Idk how you forgot, even goin as far as putting a panel of him and he still went overlooked. This is the only ability that can beat Goku because the characters in this scenario will do anything to win, implying that Ichigo literally got rid of gremmys weakness. So Ichigo can imagine him dead, non existent, never existed, etc. Make himself intangible, invincible, maybe infinite stamina as well. I feel like you missed on something very big that could change the tides of this battle. As well as the soul kings powers, aizen kyoka suigetsu and hogyoku, uryus damage transfer, jugrams shrift, and if LN counts, Ichigo clears.
@@lonkstakesand for time stop, the moment Goku lays eyes on Ichigo, Goku is in his world. He could be defeating Ichigo in his world, in reality Ichigo has imagined Goku non existent. True existence erasure can be tanked by hogyoku, as NO MATTER WHAT, as long as it your will hogyoku will keep you alive. (Aizen literally surviving mugetsu.)
As soon as you mentioned arale, its already over for everyone
I would like to hear your thoughts on how would they fair if they all have around the same power level.
Does zamasu’s time-ring which allowed him to do that count as a ability? Its more like a item/accessory since it doesn’t come from his own power
Awesome video bro 👍
do you think Devilmite Beam will work on the big 3?
btw you Kind of touched on it already however its important to mention that Infinite Stamina mean Infinite UI and probably infinite time stop via holding his breath.
It would likely be indefinite given how he would have the abilities of multiple characters who don’t need to breath ever (Android 16)
Not to mention he’d have the mastery of UI of Grand Priest who is still Top 3 in the verse.
He doesn’t need to hold his breathe because Androids don’t need to breathe
goku being in ui and using something like hits time skip with friezas death beams would be crazy work
Sorry for the late post but if you counted Zano And Grand Priest then it wouldn't be fair bruh.
To add even more to this. That means Goku gets Gas’s wish of being the strongest in the universe which means no matter what he is stronger then them on top of the potential
I mean he’s literally shenron. He even gets Zalama’s power of creation. Zeno’s ultimate power of destruction.
Both trump the lvls of supreme Kai and destroyers.
He also gets ui of say grand priest which again trumps Whis and others like him.
He also gets the strongest demons powers. And blah blah
That’s not what that means🤦🏿♂️omg you are a prime example that DBZ fans can’t read
@@ThyBait Why is Gas’s wish of growth not counted as an ability?
@@TheEternalFlame57 because it isn’t hax🤦🏿♂️that’s also not how it works. Has got surpassed by another person so no it isn’t
Goku also gets other hax abilities like magic, the carrot touch from early db, devilmite beam, near omnipotence, stone spit, timestop (guldo & hit), time reversal (whis) and time skip, copying techniques by seeing them with the third eye (tienshinhan), forced spirit fission, creation (kaio shin's), destruction (GoD's),
There were so many other things I didn’t have time to talk about them all😭
@@lonkstakes yea, i wrote the comment before finishing the video, you mentioned it in the end😅 great video by the way
and zunos omnicience plus furtune babas future visions would make goku know everything them three can and will do with all the info about the abilities
And 73 abilities.
@@Cio_d-borbaok let’s not go there. Naruto, Luffy and Ichigo also get another 100 more op abilities.
I mean what about the existence or universal erasing tso? Or the time stopping from Momo? Or the shrinking any non living thing from ishi? That’s just Naruto.
Ichigo gets every hado, every hollow ability, and the even more broken Quincy ones. I mean Grammy can wish anything.
What about... I give up. You get the point.!
What about Zeno or zalama or super shenron powers?
Itchigo future sight can perfectly predict every move of goku so he is definitely touching him " same for itchigo vs juha where he layed traps for him in the final battle " . And when itchigo touches him its game over , no name , and he will be conquered by fear and many other abilities. Also the miracle is a thing, and imagining anything into reality. I think itchigo is the most broken under these conditions
How do you predict and counter getting completely how do you hit someone with ultra instinct how do you even do anything against someine who can stop skip forward ad go backward in time exist in multiple timeliness absorb others which woukd be a counter to miracle and ca continousy get stronger broly freeza and ayone elses potential combine would 10x your stats every minute of a fight
Just 1 word: wishes
@@paco2869 Does Shenron have any feats of wishing away abilities that negate his wishes?
@@HOLDENPOPE I dont think super shenron typa wishes can get negated
This is a cool discussion
So basically Goku just became Sun Wukong.
Also I just realized you used Dokkan music in the background. I didn't notice at first because I hear it all the time.
I would say that technically arale could be considered outside of goku's abilities since iirc she's technically an existence hopper from a separate series, but even then he would still have a lower tier version of gag powers thanks to characters like the buus (for example, the time super buu fully regenerated instantly from a powerful blast for the sake of laying on his side with a spontaneously summoned magazine and drink.)
I would say that sternwiter B’s ability to reverse damage inflicted on to him would give Goku much trouble. Let’s not forget about the power of sternwriter A’s ability to recover from all damage inflicted on to him used by Uyru, and Yamamoto’s Bandai which has destructive power if used too long would eventually destroy the plant.
Dbz also has one funny thing where if you're just outright stronger than someone by a significant amount, their hax just straight up don't work on you.
Yep,ki straigth up ignore hax's if youre powerfull enough to do soo
There are soo many examples its jot even funny,but the best one is vegito still fighting even after beijg turned into candy,mf has no brain or heart or even flesh but it is still kicking ass
equal stats so that doesnt come into play
@@fizbutreal brolys,Gohan,Cell and Freeza potential do come into play,which means Goku Will get almost all of his Power back in pratically a instant
Yh but that’s DBZ Naruto’s hax work on anyone significant stronger. Sakura punches Kaguya, Boruto blitzed Momoshiki, Borushiki stabs Sasuke, Naruto tricks Zabuza etc.
@@Jpx0999 we get that but the hax thing will work.
Agreed on the conclusions. Without stats equal even standard Goku blitz and one shots, and even with stats equal comp DB likely beats comp big 3. People underestimate the hax of DB.
The only one I see the big 3 winning is standard Goku with stats equal vs big 3 due to numbers and more hax between them, but at that point if you neutered Goku's speed and power your taking away fundamental aspects of his fighting abilities since he is primarily a physical fighter who focuses on increasing his physical abilities. It would be like saying no jutsu for Naruto, no Bankais for Ichigo or no devil fruit for Luffy.
Even without equalized stats ichigo with every ability in the series cannot be one shot as he has various layers of immortality 🤦 the people over at the power scaling sub were actually knowledgeable on this match up unlike this idiotic video
While I agree that Goku has a lot more win cons than the big 3, your comparison doesn't really work. Since at least with the video, we gave every single advantage to Goku, but not the big 3. We stated racial abilities from all of these races for Goku to give Goku infinite stamina and immortality, but we didn't do the same for the big 3, such as with the Hogyoku for Bleach making it's user literally immortal and constantly evolving. Also with stats unequal we just say Goku wins because he's physically stronger, and because he's physically stronger, he also resists every single hax from all of the other verses, and also because he's physically stronger, all of the dbz hax automatically work as well with the other verses being unable to resist. See where I'm going? This video also works under the impression where the stats are equal, but still gives Goku hax where the stats that would be given if stats were unequal, like resistance to hax do to him being stronger, but he shouldn't be because the stats are equal.
@@thatboi134 Dude arale toon force it's all that Goku needs
@@thatboi134 The problem with your theory is... their stats aren't equal. Set them all to 1. Kaioken means Goku is now a 2. x20 means he's now a 20. Super Saiyan, he'd be a 50. SSJ2 he's now 100. No amount of 'transformation' changes any of those lot to the same degree as Goku's transformations do. Theoretically (not sure the exact multipliers because Toriyama decided to ignore them after a point, but the general consensus around is) SSJ4 is a x3000-x4000 increase. SSJG then includes God Ki, which is said to be on a different level altogether (none of the mortals could even sense it, and SSJ2 Vegeta couldn't do much of anything against Beerus, even when they said his 2 went beyond Goku's 3, but SSJG kept pace with (albeit a barely actually trying) Beerus. We can assume SSJG knocks out any power scaling he has before this point, period. Blue then is even stronger than that, described by Goku as the 'Super Saiyan version of SSJG', meaning we can assume he's likely around 50x stronger than SSJG, which is already SO much stronger than SSJ3 they're not even comparable. If he gets Vegeta's Blue Evolved, he's even STRONGER, and MUI on the scale of Angels? None of the big 3 can touch him.
The issue will come from verse. Which rules are we using? Naruto rules, they might still have something... maybe... if they can use the power of 'bitchslapping stronger foes for damage' enough to pull a win. If, however, it's DB rules... NONE of them have a scaled power beyond those transformations. Not the Wandenreich, not the Soul King, none of them. A), before any of them can move, Goku's speed and IT powered by MUI would put him in a position to clap them all. B) the only one that might stand a ghost of a chance is Rukia Bankai Ichigo. We don't fully know how Absolute 0 would function in this situation, but if he turns the area around him to Absolute 0, it is possible any energy blast Goku sends out gets sapped by the properties of Abolsute 0. If that is not how it works, and the introduction of energy adds enough energy to disrupt the properties of no particles and atoms even vibrating anymore, it is more likely that Goku would undo and shatter the Bankai, making it useless as well. That's not to mention her Bankai is dangerous for herself, as well, and we never get any canon sources that say she can sustain it indefinitely. Goku can Ki blast from a massive distance, so he doesn't have to get close, and can run out the clock. When Ichigo lets it go, he closes the distance and kills.
It all boils down to universe rules, but really, MUI Goku or UE Goku, powered by Blue or other such transformations, or simply going full GoD and Hakai aura, he's likely not getting touched by anyone, or every time they do something to him, they power him (UE), his power scaling is just on a different level.
@@DiafolMedrus Again, I agree that Goku would probably win since DBZ has a lot of win cons, but winning off stats is just lame. What's the point of making a video where you make the stats equal, but then you say Goku just wins because he has higher stats. Would have been an interesting video/topic since you could probably bring up and explore some of the more obscure abilities that might surprisingly be a win con with Goku/one of the big 3 Mcs as its user, but instead we're just gonna say Goku speed blitz's and win like that wasn't already obvious.
The almighty + the visionary is a scary combo though. Yes Zamatsu was in other timelines but he wasn’t aware of what took place in the timelines prior (which is why Beerus got to kill him) so ichigo going to a timeline that benefits him the best and making ANYTHING he wants come to pass via the visionary, is scary. Plus he’d adapt fast in battle like Goku but arguably faster bc of Pernida
Total facts 🗿🔥❤️👍
Another thing that makes goku immune to time manipulation stuff is that he probably has the time ring which makes him immune to any alterations in time, even if it was erasing a version of himself from all timelines. But even if we dont give him that, arale can just run fast enough to go forward or backwards in time so they aint escapin him xd
Some did this with the hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby meme template but they changed it to Dr. Manhattan vs crying baby x 3
does he know ichigo with all schrifts!?!?
Something that wasn’t brought up is that Luffy would be even more screwed here. Not only can Goku counter his gag powers with Arale’s abilities he’d be straight up immune to his gag powers since Beerus isn’t affected by Arale’s gags.
Why you didn’t mention gremmy’s ability from bleach?
He did when he mentioned the duplication ability for Ichigo (which I know ain't his ability but it still wouldn't matter due to Goku's had just being better, nothing he could imagine could kill him)
Goku with regeneration alone would be insane
Ichigo also has a version of omnipotence via Gremy
I dont think the infinite zammazu works as its an effect of the time ring right?
number 3 is kinda weird for goku. because how the dragon ball universe work things like xeno, xenoverse, gt ect would be "canon" because they are just different timelines just like trunks's future
You could give a argument for luffy being light speed with the light light fruit if you had the speeds low enough, But then Goku's counter is dyspos light speed mode.
It was equal stats so speed doesn’t matter
Please don't tell me you think dyspo is only light speed when he transforms
You know the light speed mode is a mistranslation, it correctly translates to something along the lines of super speed mode.
I’m not gonna lie to you big homie dragon ball has an argument for light speed as early as well… dragon ball
Even kid goku faster then light
If you read the manga, you would know that the highest tier gods in dragon ball isnt just zeno, zeno (omnipotent) is a separated being from zalama (omnipresent/everywhere,everything) and zuno (omniscience/knows everything)
So in other words, zalama is in fact, cannon so goku in this scenario would be omniscience, omnipresent and omnipotent, also zalama is better than fused zamasu because zamasu fused with the whole timeline only scale to nigh-omnipresent
Imagine if it was a combination of Both Zamasu end results, infinite Gokus and some merged across timelines.
Do next (Gt Goku or Whis Vs Aizen or Yhwach) please
You want Aizen to get bullied that badly?
@@lonkstakes yep and Yhwach , the bleach community have gotten out of control thinking bleach is on DBS/GT level smh
@@Lk21336 you don't need whis for that
@@shirosatsuma4946fr
@@Lk21336bleach got overrated when it turned in powerscaling
Luffy w every power in his vers is here just to get one shot by pan again
LMAOO
Anybody that can blow up a planet automatically solo's the entire verse.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki the one piece world is many many times larger than a planet level feat
@@speedyweasel681doesn’t really matter imo
@@joyboy3461 the strongest characters can tank a single planet level attack, but pretty much doesn't matter
Hey lonk if you see this comment can you do tanjiro with every power in the verse vs deku with every power in the verse too
What about orihimes abilities?
How much more cracked would this Goku be with the Intelligence of Bulma/Zuno ? It might be a worse stomp.
Not just Bulma, it’d include Gero & Hedo as well
That's not an ability but more so personal character stat's.
Peak video as always lonk
It sucks that a good CZcamsr is so unknown on here, you should always get top comment and most likes.
Actually, in this case it would be a stalemate because of combination of Hogyoku, Book Of The End and The Almighty, as Ichigo would be immune to existence erasure as Aizen wasn't able to be erased, and if somehow Ichigo was he would come back with Almighty, and Hogyoku would remove any possible weakness with infinite adaptability. No matter what, this Ichigo cannot be defeated by anything in these 4 anime. You'd need something like Milkman Man Superman to defeat him.
Ichigo could maybe do something with gremmy's imagination ability but I'm not sure what the limits to that is