Considering that this is a delta Quadra video, I think the delta quadra types will agree that I could have shared more. 😝So please, feel free to drop your experiences/insights/corrections down below! ⬇️
Moralist is a great summary. I know and am related to several deltas, and they're all moralists. My beta life has been dominated by deltas who believe that selfishness is good, but they are super concerned with public validation and the goodness or badness of everything. While most of the deltas I know (not all) believe in the goodness of selfishness, they are very embedded people.
I loved the video! You explain it very well and I'm new to socionics, perfect for me. IEE. New subscriber! About the first topic, it's very me. I'm constantly talking about "absolutist" rules about what is right or wrong and constantly trying to refine them. For example, in the past I used to say that "you are completely responsible for what you do. If someone did something bad and you retaliated with something bad, you are almost as bad as them" and use this to not only guide me in various situations in my life, but also to censor other people who didn't believe/follow this (my sister LII, for example). I only changed my thinking after being put in situations that proved to me that it wasn't so black and white, and that there are many nuances - nuances that I also constantly try to find a correlation to. The point is that I always have this tendency to create an internal structure of morality by which I can operate and know that I'm doing the right thing, because "according to this rule, I'm right, so I don't need to worry". It's something so automatic and natural to me that it was kind of funny to see it being talked about as something that belongs to the delta quadra. For a long time I thought that at least most people were like that. However, sometimes I feel like I use this mechanism as a shield to ease my conscience and take away my responsibility. Some thought, like "I don't have to blame myself for doing Y to X person. I don't have to blame myself because Y is the natural consequence of X, so I'm right". When I was about 13 years old, I remember having a rule that "friends don't hide secrets under any circumstances. If you tell one in the group, tell everyone, or don't tell any. Otherwise, you don't trust your friends". One day, a friend kept a secret from me for fear of my reaction, but she told 2 others in the group. When I found out, I treated her badly for days. All of this with a clear conscience, because "she broke a rule, suffer the consequences of being a bad girl and hurting another person". Nowadays it's not usually anything so drastic, but every now and then I find myself using it just to justify my actions to myself.
delta quadra here!! I feel like I spend most of the time in an Fi-Si state which makes me doubt whether I'm INFP or ISTJ but I like to believe that I'm on my way on figurinh that out... In my experience, it really is looking at the world through that lense of "this is right, this is wrong". I often feel like people will judge me for being too moralistic but I feel this compulsion to speak out on what I think is wrong. Thank u for doing justice for Te-doms in this, they get so much hate but most of them are good people
I don't think Barbie is a delta quadra but if anyone's seen the movie I think it represents Si-Ne moralism really well as the discussions on feminism are really attached to everyone's individual experience, also on being adverse to change and then embracing imperfection, I think the people who will resonate with the movie the most will be on this quadra
Thanks so much Aimee…your videos are so clear and concise, they’ve helped me narrow down and pinpoint my four letter type. Also, they’re so enjoyable to watch. Looking forward to your next one!
An INFP here, with EII-INFj, Ne Subtype here. I agree with you about Delta Quadra Fi vs Gamma Quadra Fi. The good examples for Gamma Quadra Fi IMHO is Lionel Messi ( ISFP preferences) and Delta Quadra Fi is his fifth cousin Bojan Krkic Perez. Both are individualistic, but Leo Messi valuing doing good things to be remembered as a good person, while Bojan valuing doing good things also to help others grow positively. I like Socionics, eventhough it get my crow brain get confused at the beginning. The explainations about INFP Ne subtypes is eeriely explaining about my personality accurately. Thanks for the video, Aimee... Waiting some more about Socionics.
I am loving your videos so much. I've been slowly getting into socionics more and more and yours are some of the first videos I've stumbled upon while going into this deep dive. I've been someone who has struggled so much with typing myself and have narrowed it down to a few types but am always bouncing back and forth, not being able to fully make up my mind. Your videos have offered so many fresh, new insights and really hit home for me. Subscribed! :)
on the topic of fantasy - i’ve always believed i loved it so much i was forced to love reality and i never truly feel imaginative because i’m always try to make it make sense in the real world.
What is odd is that a lot of Fi descriptions you see everywhere is basically about "right" vs " wrong", which is more of Fi-Si thing than Fi-Ni thing. Thanks for clearing it up!
While I don't think I'm a delta, I can pretty easily spot it in other people I know. My mom is very obviously Te-Si and the point on deltas wanting to help others reach their full potential is definitely true. They get more flack than they deserve imo, they're honestly the most comforting and trustworthy people you could ever meet when they're healthy.
Me, hubby and 3 kids are all Delta here. :) We are sweet, wholesome, hard-working, silly, sensitive, and honest, to a place where other quadras think is cringe and sappy. LOL We follow the rules of society, but are very mischievous when we don't, then no one is mad because we are like silly sweet children when we brake rules. ;) Well, my gamma sister gets annoyed that no one is mad at us. LOL When she brakes the same rule as a gamma, people are angry at her. Think I am like Ferris Bueller (Delta) and my Gamma sister is Ferris's sister. :) We love each other because in the end, we share Fi together always.
I think each quadra represents certain _opposing_ and specific subjects/topics/ most. For example, the delta quadra is the quadra where there is for example the distinction between fantasy and realism. The nfps are the least realism orientated as for example social justice warriors supporing the idea that anyone can be anything (like if you feel like a hrose then you are a horse) while the stj's are the most realism orientated. For them everything is just what it is. Similarly the nfps are most sterotypically progressive and the stjs'most stereotypically politically conservative. This is another one of their major distinctions. You could say the quadra in that sense is in a way politics for example. However, the direction it goes is different for each type. You can not really say if the quadra as a whole is left or right. In this sense I think each quadra represents certain _distinctions_ that can either go one way or the complete other way. For example, the alpha's are described as very open minded and what not, but I think it's mostly true for the NTP's. The ISFJ and ESFJ on the other hand can be really quite judgemental, so oppositional compared to the ntps. However, I like the idea of one common ground of the quadra's and I partly agree with it, but at the same time each quadra has functions that always consist of complete opposites. Ti for example is everything that Fe is not. There is no overlap between Fe and Ti, as both of them are 100% oppositional. Logically, they can not share any common ground, since they are opposing and thus everything that is high Ti, is not high Fe and everything that is Fe must not be Ti (from a purely logical perspective at least). They are both the other complete half of the apple. similarly you could say Ne is about the new and Si is about the old. However, you can not really distinguish Se/Ni when it comes to the topic of new and old because they both have elements or new and old in them. Se is novelty seeking, but is so realistic that really new and while Ni is about the future, it's not novelty focussed. So you could say that the axis Ne/Si is about the new and old, but you can not really say if its more about the new or old. You can say it's about that distinction though. _Disclaimer: Typing coherent sentences is difficult with sleeping pills in my system_
I can only speak for the gammas, but I don’t see this opposition as much in the gamma quadrant. The one opposition I can think of off the top of my head is that, while all the gammas are assertive in pursuit of their personal interests, the priorities will be the main distinction. With the FPS focused on identity/sensualism, and the TJs focused on goals/productivity. Something like this.
Not sure I completely understand your point about opposites. While functions in an axis are oppositional as a closed system, a person cannot be 100% of a function regardless. It’s less of a dichotomy and more of an imbalance. In a state of imbalance, common ground is possible.
I have a friend which is ESTJ-SLI and i think a Si subtype. She is known for ruthlessness, antisocial behaviour, but! She is capable to create bridges between her clients, friends and family. Until one day i asked her "Have you ever think that we are actually kinda evil?" She said "i am capable to do the evil things but i choose to be collective about what i do. Everything is a business" She really enjoys comfort, fantasies and things that are "pleasure-seeking". Its kinda funny to know that most ESXJs in MBTI are more brutal and ENXJ can be more relaxing than those described in socionics 🤣 Anyway how are you? It has been a while ☺️
In socionics, I think the SPs are truly the most brutal types. SJs are chill and, at the end of the day, just trying to do a good job. And thank you for asking! 😊 I’ve been well. Just getting back on my uploading schedule.
I understand now the difference between Delta Fi and Gamma Fi. Bcuz as an INTJ i could never relate to “being principled”(thought im an ENTP at 1st). Tho im pretty individualistic I do care a little about not burning bridges tho if i see that keeping those bridges and getting on well with that group would serve my goal or self interest
Wow, such an insightful video! Thank you! Now I feel slightly better about my type, which I am always criticising and not happy about :D (INFP) I really appreciate how you explain things in videos (I guess it's the Te that I am familiar with, haha). I am wondering if you are planning to make any videos about type compatibility in friendships and relationships? I know it is a difficult topic and that any type can work with any type with conscious effort but I am still very curious what would be your view on it.
Hey Aimee! I really love that you're talking about socionics now! But I still can't understand if I'm a Delta or Gamma quadra. I am someone who is really passionate and it really shows in my actions which may make me a Delta type but I am not someone who cares about collectivism or the passions of OTHERS which may make me a Gamma type. I would be really grateful if you help me out here!
In these situations, it may actually help to show somebody these videos and see what THEY say about you. You would be surprised the insights you may get. 😊
its not that JKR doesnt support gay rights, she's super supportive of that. its the trans movement that she's critical of as it infringes on women's rights which she's a strong advocate for. like trans women (male) in women's sports, lesbians being ONLY same sex attracted (female female attraction, trans women cannot be lesbians etc), single sex spaces especially for women like prisons and toilets. she bases her morals on reality and objective facts such as "biological sex exists", and that words should have definitions and meaning.
But she doesn't realize that when trans activists disagree with her, they aren't disagreeing with "biological sex exists." They understand chromosomes and hormones much better than most people. JK Rowling doesn't seem to believe that trans women are women because she doesn't separate gender and sex, which are factually different things. Basically, she follows a TERF (trans exclusionary radical feminist) ideology. People don't like her because she's transphobic, and they are very much in their right to call her out for spreading misleading and transphobic information
Interesting. You believe in the quadrants as CT sets them up. I am in my 50s and have been involved with a typology for decades. Until recently, when CT came out, the Si quadrants were revered. Alpha was Delta, and Delta was Alpha. So, for 30 years, I was a Delta as defined back then, but now I am considered an Alpha. I didn't change; the Si quadra definitions did. ;)
@@erinbuxton6787 Oh interesting. I wonder why they would change the names like that? 🤔 I got my info from Dr. Gulenko’s work mostly, and I don’t think it was published too long ago. socioniks.net/en/article/?id=16
Slightly off topic but the severe under representation of ESXJ’s in typology circles, could that be attributed to polar NI in your opinion? Your content is top notch by the way. Not bad for a sensor. Lol just kidding.
In 4:52, is it supposed to be "rebel and/or campaign against the standards"? Since Aimee was saying that Delta types are adjusting themselves to be more homeostatic with the environment.
Good question! Basically, because of the desire for Si stability and maintaining that past standard, if you tell a delta type that they are NOT being “in the flow” of the environment, they may even rebel against that new standard because they feel like, “Why SHOULD we have to adjust ourselves to all these standards? I just got used to this other standard. I can’t take this new information!”Does this make sense? But the irony is that the fact that the delta quadra types even SEE standards as the only thing that prevents them from getting to point B is what makes them a delta quadra type in the first place. Gammas don’t SEE standards because you can just bulldoze past standards anyway. Like what’s the big deal? So delta rebellion is not about rebellion for its own sake, but it’s more for the sake of bettering the collective and changing the standard for all. You see that sense of “otherness” and “collectivism” that is not a thing in the gammas? Hence, why deltas don’t usually use force to get their way when the time comes for them to stand their ground. Because what if they change their mind or there’s something new to consider? “Let’s talk about it.”
@@beatofmyownMakes sense. From what I get, Delta types tend to compare their own old standards between new standards in the environment. The purpose is to set the possible best standard for collectivism, to reach everyone's full potential and life purposes by discovering the common ground between possibilities of standards and their idealism principles. Cmiiw.
Hi! SEI here :) Amazing content, thank you for the effort put on explaining that complicated system with simple words. Great examples of quadra's behaviors and I can imagine how much time it requires to do all the searching for proper types.
Whats the connection between redpill ideology and delta quadra ?🌚 most prominant manosphere content creaters or teachers are " ST" ( Estp istp estj istj ) . So that makes redpillers are mix of betas(ST)and deltas(ST).
You jumped the gun, but I will answer this in the next Beta video. 😉 There is actually a reason why the Betas and deltas appear similar. They are both collectivistic quadras.
I think estj and istj would not be on this list though lol. I think a manosphere content creator would mostly be an ni user as the ideology is very anti-si (anti-comfort). They are all about ignoring your internal feelings/need to rest or being laid back in order to achieve your goals (get things done (Te) or create this perfectly masculine social image(Fe)).
Why are the types in your quadras messed up? They are different in socionics. Alpha: ENTP, ISFP, ESFJ, INTJ. Beta: ISTJ, ENFJ, INFP, ESTP. Gamma: ISFJ, ENTJ, INTP, ESFP. Delta: ENFP, ISTP, ESTJ, INFJ.
I personally think JKR is a beta quadrant (probably IEI). I think beta quadrant stands up for what they believe in as well. And the way JKR did it, imo, is also quite dramatic and forceful. Instead of acknowledging what other people are saying (as I imagine an delta quadrant would do) like "I know why people think/feel this, but..." she was being very forceful and aggressive in her speech. I think IEI is a more accurate typing for her.
I think you are misrepresenting someone like JK Rowling, I don't know if you have a personal bias against her. She isn't being stubborn for the sake of sentimentality and traditionalism, she's being stubborn because she genuinely thinks there's a lot of injustice with that particular issue. You have to distinguish people that are just holding on to beliefs because they are scared of progress, and people that are holding onto beliefs because they genuinely think new so called progressive beliefs are not right. I do think you are correct that beta quadra types tend to be more conservative leaning types, because they are looking for those collective, timeless and universal principles.
I think you are misunderstanding due to your own biases as well. She could’ve said “I LOVE GAY PEOPLE!!! F*CK HOMOPHOBIA!!!!” And if she stood strong to that value, due to the fact that she has verified this as the moral way to be, and it is based off a past framework, then I still would’ve said she was most likely delta quadrant. It’s the motivations behind it, not WHAT she actually believes. Just because you are delta quadrant, doesn’t make you a conservative.
what's the difference between alpha and delta quadra? i know one is Fi-Te valuing and one is Ti-Fe valuing, but are there any obvious differences to tell them apart?
If you consider, Te is about rationale or beliefs. Te tieing with Se is all about giving other people a good experience through your own beliefs and rationale. Te tieing with Ne is all about other peoples future, hence they come across as very collectivley moralistic. Where they use their Te (rationale, or beliefs) and impose it on othrr peoples futures Ne and all thsi works toegther with their respective axis of Fi and Si for Delta and Fi and Ni for Gamma.
I'm an EII and trying to generalise the vibe of a whole quadra is not very accurate. You have vastly different types in it. The beta and delta NFs will be more similar between them than the delta NFs with the delta STs. Same with all NTs, STs, and SFs. There's way more nuance to socionics than this. JK Rowling is also an EII but what she does is not about holding a belief - it's about the morality of protecting women against men who parade as women in a misogynistic way.
Are you perhaps confusing the Delta quadra for Beta quadra? What you are describing sounds like the Beta quadra, and the thing about law making sounds more like Ti (structural logic), apparent in both Alpha and Beta quadra. The Deltas are more case by case basis individualistic with their Fi just like how Gammas are, but they don't have singular Ni (intuition of time), so they are more open minded to different perspectives and potentials because of Ne. In MBTI, many ISTJs for example, translate over to LSI (Beta quadra) because of that Ti.
The controversy around her is she says a there are two genders. Which is just the truth, a Delta type may feel the need to stand on principle more than other quadrants.
@@DinsdalepiranHa3 Well it doesn't matter because she deleted it, or whatever. It's interesting because she has spoken on the Trickster function, mentioning that as ENFP/ESFP we usually are good at giving people the credible sources that back up the Fi value. If she does genuinely want to understand "Gender" and more specifically, the politics behind gender and power (because those two are inextricably linked) i recommend that she does do some research on the matter. Here's a link to a CZcams video that summarizes the concept. Okay, now I'm actually leaving. Finally, Aimee, I believe that you have the potential to think more critically about your stance on this matter. You don't want to be on the wrong side of history. And more importantly as an Asian women (I'm black in case you're wondering) decolonizing the way you look at the world is a very important step towards HUMILITY. There you go: 1. czcams.com/video/LNPpBrF8E2g/video.html (CZcams Video) 2. www.jstor.org/stable/4640051 (PDF document by Lugones) So long; and I wish you the best.
wait jk rowling doesn’t support gay rights? didn’t she make one of her characters gay? i’m so confused… i rlly hope that’s not true bc im bi and i’d be rlly disappointed :(
"Doesn't support gay rights or whatever" xD More like "actively and agressively propagate anti-gay-trans-feminist propaganda", but sure, she technically doesn't dupport gay rights I guess. If you ever bother to Se-out the subject, Shaun and Contrapoints are the way to go (don't listen to Shaun's vid on Harry Potter if you're a fan of the series and want it to stay that way, though). Loving your break down of the Quadras, by the way. Trying to alleviate my delta-gamma allergy through better understanding, any help is welcome.
Considering that this is a delta Quadra video, I think the delta quadra types will agree that I could have shared more. 😝So please, feel free to drop your experiences/insights/corrections down below! ⬇️
Moralist is a great summary. I know and am related to several deltas, and they're all moralists. My beta life has been dominated by deltas who believe that selfishness is good, but they are super concerned with public validation and the goodness or badness of everything. While most of the deltas I know (not all) believe in the goodness of selfishness, they are very embedded people.
For whatever reason, I feel deeply touched and appreciated rn... These videos are super interesting, so thanks a lot Aimee! (From an INFP)
I loved the video! You explain it very well and I'm new to socionics, perfect for me. IEE. New subscriber!
About the first topic, it's very me. I'm constantly talking about "absolutist" rules about what is right or wrong and constantly trying to refine them.
For example, in the past I used to say that "you are completely responsible for what you do. If someone did something bad and you retaliated with something bad, you are almost as bad as them" and use this to not only guide me in various situations in my life, but also to censor other people who didn't believe/follow this (my sister LII, for example). I only changed my thinking after being put in situations that proved to me that it wasn't so black and white, and that there are many nuances - nuances that I also constantly try to find a correlation to. The point is that I always have this tendency to create an internal structure of morality by which I can operate and know that I'm doing the right thing, because "according to this rule, I'm right, so I don't need to worry". It's something so automatic and natural to me that it was kind of funny to see it being talked about as something that belongs to the delta quadra. For a long time I thought that at least most people were like that.
However, sometimes I feel like I use this mechanism as a shield to ease my conscience and take away my responsibility. Some thought, like "I don't have to blame myself for doing Y to X person. I don't have to blame myself because Y is the natural consequence of X, so I'm right". When I was about 13 years old, I remember having a rule that "friends don't hide secrets under any circumstances. If you tell one in the group, tell everyone, or don't tell any. Otherwise, you don't trust your friends". One day, a friend kept a secret from me for fear of my reaction, but she told 2 others in the group. When I found out, I treated her badly for days. All of this with a clear conscience, because "she broke a rule, suffer the consequences of being a bad girl and hurting another person".
Nowadays it's not usually anything so drastic, but every now and then I find myself using it just to justify my actions to myself.
delta quadra here!! I feel like I spend most of the time in an Fi-Si state which makes me doubt whether I'm INFP or ISTJ but I like to believe that I'm on my way on figurinh that out... In my experience, it really is looking at the world through that lense of "this is right, this is wrong". I often feel like people will judge me for being too moralistic but I feel this compulsion to speak out on what I think is wrong. Thank u for doing justice for Te-doms in this, they get so much hate but most of them are good people
I don't think Barbie is a delta quadra but if anyone's seen the movie I think it represents Si-Ne moralism really well as the discussions on feminism are really attached to everyone's individual experience, also on being adverse to change and then embracing imperfection, I think the people who will resonate with the movie the most will be on this quadra
Oh! I still have to watch Barbie. Thank you for this observation. 😊
Thanks so much Aimee…your videos are so clear and concise, they’ve helped me narrow down and pinpoint my four letter type. Also, they’re so enjoyable to watch. Looking forward to your next one!
An INFP here, with EII-INFj, Ne Subtype here.
I agree with you about Delta Quadra Fi vs Gamma Quadra Fi. The good examples for Gamma Quadra Fi IMHO is Lionel Messi ( ISFP preferences) and Delta Quadra Fi is his fifth cousin Bojan Krkic Perez. Both are individualistic, but Leo Messi valuing doing good things to be remembered as a good person, while Bojan valuing doing good things also to help others grow positively.
I like Socionics, eventhough it get my crow brain get confused at the beginning. The explainations about INFP Ne subtypes is eeriely explaining about my personality accurately.
Thanks for the video, Aimee... Waiting some more about Socionics.
messi is SLI , or delta quadra
I am loving your videos so much. I've been slowly getting into socionics more and more and yours are some of the first videos I've stumbled upon while going into this deep dive. I've been someone who has struggled so much with typing myself and have narrowed it down to a few types but am always bouncing back and forth, not being able to fully make up my mind. Your videos have offered so many fresh, new insights and really hit home for me. Subscribed! :)
Thank you for subscribing! 😊
on the topic of fantasy - i’ve always believed i loved it so much i was forced to love reality and i never truly feel imaginative because i’m always try to make it make sense in the real world.
What is odd is that a lot of Fi descriptions you see everywhere is basically about "right" vs " wrong", which is more of Fi-Si thing than Fi-Ni thing. Thanks for clearing it up!
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Not really.
While I don't think I'm a delta, I can pretty easily spot it in other people I know. My mom is very obviously Te-Si and the point on deltas wanting to help others reach their full potential is definitely true. They get more flack than they deserve imo, they're honestly the most comforting and trustworthy people you could ever meet when they're healthy.
Me, hubby and 3 kids are all Delta here. :) We are sweet, wholesome, hard-working, silly, sensitive, and honest, to a place where other quadras think is cringe and sappy. LOL We follow the rules of society, but are very mischievous when we don't, then no one is mad because we are like silly sweet children when we brake rules. ;) Well, my gamma sister gets annoyed that no one is mad at us. LOL When she brakes the same rule as a gamma, people are angry at her. Think I am like Ferris Bueller (Delta) and my Gamma sister is Ferris's sister. :) We love each other because in the end, we share Fi together always.
sounds alpha
I think each quadra represents certain _opposing_ and specific subjects/topics/ most. For example, the delta quadra is the quadra where there is for example the distinction between fantasy and realism. The nfps are the least realism orientated as for example social justice warriors supporing the idea that anyone can be anything (like if you feel like a hrose then you are a horse) while the stj's are the most realism orientated. For them everything is just what it is. Similarly the nfps are most sterotypically progressive and the stjs'most stereotypically politically conservative. This is another one of their major distinctions. You could say the quadra in that sense is in a way politics for example. However, the direction it goes is different for each type. You can not really say if the quadra as a whole is left or right.
In this sense I think each quadra represents certain _distinctions_ that can either go one way or the complete other way. For example, the alpha's are described as very open minded and what not, but I think it's mostly true for the NTP's. The ISFJ and ESFJ on the other hand can be really quite judgemental, so oppositional compared to the ntps.
However, I like the idea of one common ground of the quadra's and I partly agree with it, but at the same time each quadra has functions that always consist of complete opposites. Ti for example is everything that Fe is not. There is no overlap between Fe and Ti, as both of them are 100% oppositional. Logically, they can not share any common ground, since they are opposing and thus everything that is high Ti, is not high Fe and everything that is Fe must not be Ti (from a purely logical perspective at least). They are both the other complete half of the apple.
similarly you could say Ne is about the new and Si is about the old. However, you can not really distinguish Se/Ni when it comes to the topic of new and old because they both have elements or new and old in them. Se is novelty seeking, but is so realistic that really new and while Ni is about the future, it's not novelty focussed. So you could say that the axis Ne/Si is about the new and old, but you can not really say if its more about the new or old. You can say it's about that distinction though.
_Disclaimer: Typing coherent sentences is difficult with sleeping pills in my system_
I can only speak for the gammas, but I don’t see this opposition as much in the gamma quadrant. The one opposition I can think of off the top of my head is that, while all the gammas are assertive in pursuit of their personal interests, the priorities will be the main distinction. With the FPS focused on identity/sensualism, and the TJs focused on goals/productivity. Something like this.
though no one is saying "if you feel like a hrose then you are a horse." This is a false analogy.
Not sure I completely understand your point about opposites. While functions in an axis are oppositional as a closed system, a person cannot be 100% of a function regardless. It’s less of a dichotomy and more of an imbalance. In a state of imbalance, common ground is possible.
ISTJ here. I'm not sure there is anything I disagree with in this video.
Thank you for clarifying at the end that it is perceivable actions NOT self reflection. That helps to narrow it down!
I have a friend which is ESTJ-SLI and i think a Si subtype. She is known for ruthlessness, antisocial behaviour, but! She is capable to create bridges between her clients, friends and family. Until one day i asked her
"Have you ever think that we are actually kinda evil?"
She said "i am capable to do the evil things but i choose to be collective about what i do. Everything is a business"
She really enjoys comfort, fantasies and things that are "pleasure-seeking".
Its kinda funny to know that most ESXJs in MBTI are more brutal and ENXJ can be more relaxing than those described in socionics 🤣
Anyway how are you? It has been a while ☺️
In socionics, I think the SPs are truly the most brutal types. SJs are chill and, at the end of the day, just trying to do a good job. And thank you for asking! 😊 I’ve been well. Just getting back on my uploading schedule.
Great video - ENFP
Interesting, ENFP. Fantasy is spot on. Jkr is about women's rights and women not being erased.
I understand now the difference between Delta Fi and Gamma Fi. Bcuz as an INTJ i could never relate to “being principled”(thought im an ENTP at 1st). Tho im pretty individualistic I do care a little about not burning bridges tho if i see that keeping those bridges and getting on well with that group would serve my goal or self interest
Great video Aimee!
Thank you! 😊
Wow, such an insightful video! Thank you! Now I feel slightly better about my type, which I am always criticising and not happy about :D (INFP) I really appreciate how you explain things in videos (I guess it's the Te that I am familiar with, haha). I am wondering if you are planning to make any videos about type compatibility in friendships and relationships? I know it is a difficult topic and that any type can work with any type with conscious effort but I am still very curious what would be your view on it.
Sure! 😊
Hey Aimee! I really love that you're talking about socionics now! But I still can't understand if I'm a Delta or Gamma quadra. I am someone who is really passionate and it really shows in my actions which may make me a Delta type but I am not someone who cares about collectivism or the passions of OTHERS which may make me a Gamma type. I would be really grateful if you help me out here!
In these situations, it may actually help to show somebody these videos and see what THEY say about you. You would be surprised the insights you may get. 😊
@@beatofmyown That's actually really true. Thanks for the advice 🥰!
its not that JKR doesnt support gay rights, she's super supportive of that. its the trans movement that she's critical of as it infringes on women's rights which she's a strong advocate for. like trans women (male) in women's sports, lesbians being ONLY same sex attracted (female female attraction, trans women cannot be lesbians etc), single sex spaces especially for women like prisons and toilets. she bases her morals on reality and objective facts such as "biological sex exists", and that words should have definitions and meaning.
J K Rowling got my respect.
But she doesn't realize that when trans activists disagree with her, they aren't disagreeing with "biological sex exists." They understand chromosomes and hormones much better than most people. JK Rowling doesn't seem to believe that trans women are women because she doesn't separate gender and sex, which are factually different things. Basically, she follows a TERF (trans exclusionary radical feminist) ideology. People don't like her because she's transphobic, and they are very much in their right to call her out for spreading misleading and transphobic information
dude nobody cares about your political beliefs on a not political video. you're just annoying
And the problem it’s not even aime‘s fault. We associate gays now with crazy people. It’s even gotten here
Interesting. You believe in the quadrants as CT sets them up. I am in my 50s and have been involved with a typology for decades. Until recently, when CT came out, the Si quadrants were revered. Alpha was Delta, and Delta was Alpha. So, for 30 years, I was a Delta as defined back then, but now I am considered an Alpha. I didn't change; the Si quadra definitions did. ;)
@@erinbuxton6787 Oh interesting. I wonder why they would change the names like that? 🤔 I got my info from Dr. Gulenko’s work mostly, and I don’t think it was published too long ago. socioniks.net/en/article/?id=16
Slightly off topic but the severe under representation of ESXJ’s in typology circles, could that be attributed to polar NI in your opinion?
Your content is top notch by the way. Not bad for a sensor. Lol just kidding.
In 4:52, is it supposed to be "rebel and/or campaign against the standards"? Since Aimee was saying that Delta types are adjusting themselves to be more homeostatic with the environment.
Good question!
Basically, because of the desire for Si stability and maintaining that past standard, if you tell a delta type that they are NOT being “in the flow” of the environment, they may even rebel against that new standard because they feel like, “Why SHOULD we have to adjust ourselves to all these standards? I just got used to this other standard. I can’t take this new information!”Does this make sense?
But the irony is that the fact that the delta quadra types even SEE standards as the only thing that prevents them from getting to point B is what makes them a delta quadra type in the first place. Gammas don’t SEE standards because you can just bulldoze past standards anyway. Like what’s the big deal?
So delta rebellion is not about rebellion for its own sake, but it’s more for the sake of bettering the collective and changing the standard for all. You see that sense of “otherness” and “collectivism” that is not a thing in the gammas?
Hence, why deltas don’t usually use force to get their way when the time comes for them to stand their ground. Because what if they change their mind or there’s something new to consider? “Let’s talk about it.”
@@beatofmyownMakes sense. From what I get, Delta types tend to compare their own old standards between new standards in the environment. The purpose is to set the possible best standard for collectivism, to reach everyone's full potential and life purposes by discovering the common ground between possibilities of standards and their idealism principles. Cmiiw.
Hi! SEI here :) Amazing content, thank you for the effort put on explaining that complicated system with simple words. Great examples of quadra's behaviors and I can imagine how much time it requires to do all the searching for proper types.
Thank you! 😊
Whats the connection between redpill ideology and delta quadra ?🌚 most prominant manosphere content creaters or teachers are " ST" ( Estp istp estj istj ) . So that makes redpillers are mix of betas(ST)and deltas(ST).
You jumped the gun, but I will answer this in the next Beta video. 😉 There is actually a reason why the Betas and deltas appear similar. They are both collectivistic quadras.
And yet Tate is gamma 🤔. Then again, he’s more notorious than collectivist .
I think estj and istj would not be on this list though lol. I think a manosphere content creator would mostly be an ni user as the ideology is very anti-si (anti-comfort). They are all about ignoring your internal feelings/need to rest or being laid back in order to achieve your goals (get things done (Te) or create this perfectly masculine social image(Fe)).
@@supura794 lol no
Why are the types in your quadras messed up? They are different in socionics.
Alpha: ENTP, ISFP, ESFJ, INTJ.
Beta: ISTJ, ENFJ, INFP, ESTP.
Gamma: ISFJ, ENTJ, INTP, ESFP.
Delta: ENFP, ISTP, ESTJ, INFJ.
I said in my videos that for the sake of my viewers who are coming from MBTI cognitive functions, I’ve changed the lettering.
@@beatofmyown i see
I personally think JKR is a beta quadrant (probably IEI). I think beta quadrant stands up for what they believe in as well. And the way JKR did it, imo, is also quite dramatic and forceful. Instead of acknowledging what other people are saying (as I imagine an delta quadrant would do) like "I know why people think/feel this, but..." she was being very forceful and aggressive in her speech. I think IEI is a more accurate typing for her.
I agree with this typing for JKR, I think JKR typed this way herself (INFJ)
Wow! This is so interesting!
I think you are misrepresenting someone like JK Rowling, I don't know if you have a personal bias against her. She isn't being stubborn for the sake of sentimentality and traditionalism, she's being stubborn because she genuinely thinks there's a lot of injustice with that particular issue. You have to distinguish people that are just holding on to beliefs because they are scared of progress, and people that are holding onto beliefs because they genuinely think new so called progressive beliefs are not right. I do think you are correct that beta quadra types tend to be more conservative leaning types, because they are looking for those collective, timeless and universal principles.
I think you are misunderstanding due to your own biases as well. She could’ve said “I LOVE GAY PEOPLE!!! F*CK HOMOPHOBIA!!!!” And if she stood strong to that value, due to the fact that she has verified this as the moral way to be, and it is based off a past framework, then I still would’ve said she was most likely delta quadrant. It’s the motivations behind it, not WHAT she actually believes. Just because you are delta quadrant, doesn’t make you a conservative.
Also, I never said that beta quadrants are conservative…
I respect J K Rowling more now.She is legit with her response.
Tate is wild lmao
@@supura794 I don't think he's an ESTP
Off topic, but you look like my aunt, I don't mean it in a bad way
what's the difference between alpha and delta quadra? i know one is Fi-Te valuing and one is Ti-Fe valuing, but are there any obvious differences to tell them apart?
Yes, I recommend checking out all 4 of my quadra videos to get a holistic picture. 😊
If you consider, Te is about rationale or beliefs. Te tieing with Se is all about giving other people a good experience through your own beliefs and rationale. Te tieing with Ne is all about other peoples future, hence they come across as very collectivley moralistic. Where they use their Te (rationale, or beliefs) and impose it on othrr peoples futures Ne and all thsi works toegther with their respective axis of Fi and Si for Delta and Fi and Ni for Gamma.
I'm an EII and trying to generalise the vibe of a whole quadra is not very accurate. You have vastly different types in it. The beta and delta NFs will be more similar between them than the delta NFs with the delta STs. Same with all NTs, STs, and SFs. There's way more nuance to socionics than this. JK Rowling is also an EII but what she does is not about holding a belief - it's about the morality of protecting women against men who parade as women in a misogynistic way.
That’s exactly why I have a series on each of the 16 types coming up.
Are you perhaps confusing the Delta quadra for Beta quadra? What you are describing sounds like the Beta quadra, and the thing about law making sounds more like Ti (structural logic), apparent in both Alpha and Beta quadra. The Deltas are more case by case basis individualistic with their Fi just like how Gammas are, but they don't have singular Ni (intuition of time), so they are more open minded to different perspectives and potentials because of Ne.
In MBTI, many ISTJs for example, translate over to LSI (Beta quadra) because of that Ti.
I mention in my beta video how similar the 2 quadras are.
The controversy around her is she says a there are two genders. Which is just the truth, a Delta type may feel the need to stand on principle more than other quadrants.
Good point! 👍🏼
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@@DinsdalepiranHa3 Well it doesn't matter because she deleted it, or whatever. It's interesting because she has spoken on the Trickster function, mentioning that as ENFP/ESFP we usually are good at giving people the credible sources that back up the Fi value. If she does genuinely want to understand "Gender" and more specifically, the politics behind gender and power (because those two are inextricably linked) i recommend that she does do some research on the matter. Here's a link to a CZcams video that summarizes the concept. Okay, now I'm actually leaving.
Finally, Aimee, I believe that you have the potential to think more critically about your stance on this matter. You don't want to be on the wrong side of history. And more importantly as an Asian women (I'm black in case you're wondering) decolonizing the way you look at the world is a very important step towards HUMILITY.
There you go:
1. czcams.com/video/LNPpBrF8E2g/video.html (CZcams Video)
2. www.jstor.org/stable/4640051 (PDF document by Lugones)
So long; and I wish you the best.
Wtf are you talking about?
@@beatofmyown who are you referring to?
wait jk rowling doesn’t support gay rights? didn’t she make one of her characters gay? i’m so confused… i rlly hope that’s not true bc im bi and i’d be rlly disappointed :(
"Doesn't support gay rights or whatever" xD More like "actively and agressively propagate anti-gay-trans-feminist propaganda", but sure, she technically doesn't dupport gay rights I guess. If you ever bother to Se-out the subject, Shaun and Contrapoints are the way to go (don't listen to Shaun's vid on Harry Potter if you're a fan of the series and want it to stay that way, though).
Loving your break down of the Quadras, by the way. Trying to alleviate my delta-gamma allergy through better understanding, any help is welcome.
So why are you so hot and cute ?. ;);.
Andrew tate is SLE