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This song needs the snare drum of the studio version. There's a story behind that snare, but it's the sonics that really matter. This version suffers without that bottomless snare. The harmonies also aren't nearly as tight as they used to be. You need to hear them in their prime. Some of the greatest harmonies ever.
I missed it at well!!
I love the story behind the studio version of this song. Hal Blaine and the elevator door.
Agree
You can't make a live performance sound like a studio recording.
Agreed 100%... please do the other version
Listen to the Studio version of The Boxer⊠the lie lie lies sound so much better and the ending more powerful.
Yeah, this isnât the best version. The Concert in Central Park version would have been a better one if he wanted to do a live version.
I'm done with this channel. You're not gonna get taken down by youtube for doing the studio version. Every other reactor channel does studio versions and they're not in prison.
The build of the ending is missing in this version
To put it succinctly, the reason to hear the studio version of this song is to hear one of the best recordings ever of one of the best folk rock ballads ever. Truly a masterpiece of production all around.
Go afterward and listen to the studio version of this. A lot of the instrumentals are different and they were so young and clear then. The beauty of Simon and Garfunkel is top tier. Do your live listens, but go back and check the version that made them famous. A live version of Scarborough Faire exists with guest Andy Williams, and it is one of the most beautiful things you will ever hear. Three men, a guitar and a mic.
I'd say do it the other way around, always studio versions first, then any live versions afterwards.
The version with Andy Williams is stellar!!!
According to Paul Simon, "Lie-la-lie" was initially intended as a place-holder, simply because he didn't yet have lyrics for that part of the song. But as they worked on it in the studio, it eventually just became part of the song. It really didn't have meaning, any more than something like tra-la-la, or fa-la-la, or even na-na-na-na-na-na-na from Hey Jude might have.
Weird version. Please do the original. It's so much more musically impactful and interesting. Other people have mentioned this on this thread and it's because it's really so different and a far superior track; though this performance has its merits too. I've always thought the 'lie lie' part had to do with the theme of the song. Anyway, another nice reaction, I enjoyed it.
It's a song about disillusionment.....about being misled by the "lies" they have heard....hence, that refrain... The reference to "the boxer" is not literal, but to be taken metaphorically....i.e., though he has been beaten down by life, he's still going to keep trying..
The studio version is grand.. cuz back then they didn't have sound effects so they did what they could like record that snar drum down in a elevator shaft to get the harmony. And sound effects they needed..! Great song
I've been a fan since 1964 with the first time I heard Sounds of Silence. The Boxer for me is Paul's masterpiece musically and lyrically. Their harmonies are some of the best in musical history.
I actually enjoy the studio rendition more than the live performance. Another one to try would be "I Am A Rock," again the studio version.
I've noticed a lot of times you go with the newest live videos of these classic artists, I would encourage you to instead, look for the older live videos, when these artists were at or close to their prime!
Must listen to the studio version. It's a must.
the lie lie lies are just a musical sound - could be lalalas or yayayas. Listen to the record release version when they were younger. And yes, no one can really compare to the words, music and harmonies of Simon and Garfunkel
Wrong ! The lie lies are part of the story . The boxer feels like his life is a lie . Like the part about going home . He says I am leaving , but that is a lie .
The use of "lie" is extremely significant, actually.
Sometimes the studio version is needed....this is one of those times.
Paul Simon, Live Africa 1987, âDiamonds On The Soles Of Her Shoesâ
There's two more Paul Simon songs I recommend: Diamond on the Soles of Her Shoe and You Can Call Me Al. The last one is funnier because the music video has Chevy Chase miming the song while Simon plays all the instruments in the song after he drags it out..
This is a really cool performance. You might be a little confused when you hear the studio version, cause here, they are, Iâm not exactly sure what itâs called, but theyâre singing against the tempo. Which, to possibly complicate things even further, seems a little faster than it should be
Studio versionâŠthe snare and bass harmonica
great storytelling ... simon & Garfunkel....
One of those occasions where you need to hear the studio version
Or just another live version. This was weird. The tempo was too fast for their singing.
Seventh Avenue is the heart of New York's garment district. You should react to an earlier song, The 59th Street Bridge Song, aka Feelin' Groovy.
Please look at paradise by the dash board light by meat loaf ... Also A beautiful love song is Six ribbons by Jon English .. tells the story of Australia's first convict settlers.. a very unique haunting sound. Also your the voice by John Farnham . More Australian artists Tina arena . Chains...
"Homeward Bound", "Bridge over Troubled Waters", "Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, & Thyme", "Richard Cory", "Hazy Shade of Winter"... Sooo many songs to listen experience. The depth of their lyrics, the sweetness of their harmonies, and their enthralling musicality are truly captivating.
This version obviously accentuates how well they work off of each other in front of a live crowd. Their ability to anticipate and work with each other's harmonies in this version is stunning and a tribute to their friendship.
The really stunning one is the original studio recording. It was a true masterpiece of the era.
And as someone else stated the "ly-ly-lys" were not really words or lyrics, but a musical, harmonious quality that fit into that part well. It could have been "by-by-by's" or "my-my-mys" had either been as musically harmonious.
As other have stated you really need to listen to a studio album made in their prime. Their harmonies then are what made them famous then.
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I love Simon & Garfunkel so much!!!! I'm 57yrs old, but I grew up with my mother listening to them & a lot of classical music as well.... She is the reason that I love many different genres of music to this day.....
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@@Isleofskye No! But my mother listened to music & she was always singing gave me a great appreciation for all types of music..... I mean I love The Beatles, Simon & Garfunkel, Elvis, Roy Obirson..... My all time favorite music is Rock & Roll, but I also love hip hop, rap, country & more..... She helped me to be open minded with music....
As wonderful as their harmonies always were, you're missing the true beauty of Art Garfunkel's voice IF you don't hear them in their early days. Oh my goodness: his voice was absolutely angelic back then and melded so wonderfully with Paul's. They didn't need much else than Paul's guitar to be one of THE best duos ever - still going strong (at least Paul Simon is) 'after all these years'.
I wasn't expecting a live version, without that amazing, power expansion to the end, not to mention the perfect, echoing, haunting harmony. I may never get used to adults having no knowledge of what we codgers think of as American classics.
This is my favorite Simon and Garfunkel song, and one of my absolute favorites in general
Ah, the legends of Simon and Garfunkel. Love their music from when they were in their prime. I'm old and I recall in 8th grade I had an English teacher who was teaching us poetry, and she put on an album and had us listen to Simon and Garfunkel. Fine poetry turned into music there. This song is one of my favorites, along with Scarborough Fair and a few (well, many) others. Thanks so much for reacting to these guys. They sounded great even as they were older here than in their prime.
I do like the live version here but the studio version, with the snare, is perfection.
I do not understand this, but why is it that every time I hear Simon and Garfunkle I am brought to tears?
Once in a millennium musical act. One listen to S&G and you realize you're hearing something really special, transcendent.
These good ol boys are so familiar now...It;'s much like comin home and slippin on a comfortable pair of slippers...These guys are like family to us...Their familiar harmonies truly soothe the soul...Ty brother Boyd for this
Check out the studio version for sure
While this is very good of course (and we envy those who were there), you really should listen to the original studio version, on headphones with the sound tuned way up. After they meet the boxer in the clearing, the song takes off in a long repetition of that 'lie-li-lie' refrain with soaring orchestra that will chill you to the bone.
This is an awesome song, with great lyrics, but sounds so much better when sung in their prime without all the synthetics.
One of my favorite Simon and Garfunkel songs
this is one of my specific favs from them....just beautiful
These two will be singing together in heaven!!
The New York concert is a must see. What a night it was.
Don't take the Lie Lie Lie part as meaning anything more than having La La La in a song.
I would love to hear your reaction to the studio version of one of my favorite songs. Their harmonies were angelic and the Big Drums at the end send a beautifully poetic song to another level. I've always thought of this as a song about a man who has been beaten down throughout his life (Lie! Lie! Lie!) but "the fighter still remains." Love your comments, as usual!
Yikes. Iâm glad I had years of the studio version firmly planted in my brain before I ever heard this.
Paul Simon is in the very highest tier of songwriters. Best is an impossible title to grant, but there's no one better. I'd recommend The Only Living Boy in New York.
The studio version is FAR superior to this! It would seem that they got bored performing this song and changed it up for that reason.
I think their biggest hit was Scarborough Fair, then The Graduate. Because of the close harmonies and intricate lyrics, all their songs were perfection. You would enjoy these cited as well. I had never heard The Boxer before-must not have caught on in its day.
My favourite Simon and Garfunkel songđ„°
One of my favorite is âEl Condor Pasaâ. Such a beautiful song
not just a boxer, but a fighter (for survival). i want this song played at my funeral, because i will still not be completely gone. it's been my theme song for many years.
I actually really like this version, hadn't heard it before.
Another excellent Simon & Garfunkel song is America.
The concert, long ago, Central Park, so worth a watch
I love the original (who actually doesn't? I mean... is there a human being who would say "Ugh, bad song" without just being contrary for its own sake??) but this version is pretty good, I think. Yes, there is something to be said about the differences but damn! This is still good! They're two old guys with years not on the stage together and still sound so crispy!
this live version doesn't carry the drama of the song as well as the studio version. It feels messy. But, I love them no matter what. Musical geniuses.
To echo everyone else, what you want to do - not even as a reaction vid - is get the studio version, put the sound up, close your eyes and literally feel your soul being transported.
One of my favorite songs!
You really need to listen to Scarborough Fair. Itâs two stories being sung at the same time. One is Antiwar story. Great harmonies and lyrics. The other songs you need to hear from them are AMERICA , and 4th STREET BRIDGE SONG
If youâre going to hear a song for the first time, then it needs to be the studio version.
Yes, definitely listen to the studio version!
This was from a 2009 show. It was some show they did in nyc that had to do with the r&r hof with many other artists over a couple of days. They played this, the sound of silence and bridge over troubled water. Just for those who were wondering where/when this was from in the comments. Take care!
One of my favorite renditions of this song is the one sung by Mumford and sons.
They are magnificent, aren't they.
Studio on this.. because the real band members aren't there.. WRECKING CREW.. âïž RIP TO THOSE MEMBERS.
The original recording was as close perfect as soft rock geta. This live version isma pallid imitation.
I've never read the lyrics to this song but I always thought the lie, lie ,lie was short for the light. I've seen in other comments that this was just meant to be a holder until they came up with better lyrics and eventually they grew to like it so they left it in. I really love the lyrics of this song, "asking only workman wages" and "a come on from the whores of 7th Ave, I do declare I sometimes took some comfort there", great lyrics.
You don't need the studio version, but you should hear a version with the extra verse in the middle. (The verse apparently was cut from the studio version for time.) It contains the stunning insight, "After changes upon changes, we are more or less the same."
Excellent review. I'd love for you to review Sounds of Silence by Simon and Garfunkel. In eighth grade the song was a listening project for us. Would love to see your review and see if it's analyzed the same way I was taught
OMG. I just dated myself! đ
I wish you would listen to the original recording rather than concert footage. It is so much better.
Amazing version of this
This is actually my favorite song. My dad attended the concert in Central Park and unfortunately they forgot the cymbal crashes which really changes it tonally. Unfortunately, by the time I could afford a Simon and Garfunkel concert they stopped performing due to Art Garfunkel's deteriorating voice. But this song speaks profoundly to me and despite coming out decades before my birth it still ranks as my favorite song of all time.
Though immediately from listening to this i can say it's not the Concert in Central Park, and based on the timber of their voices it has to be some time after that, so post 1981 as Art's voice already started to get deeper by then eventually getting very deep then cracking. I would guess this was from the 90's or early 2000's, but I am only working off my knowledge of the duo rather than actual concert dates.
The bridge doesnât mean anything. It is just beautiful for its own sake. Personally, I prefer the arrangement on the album.
Mumford and Sons have a lovely cover of this if you'd like to see another version of it, thoroughly recommend it and that band generally, both their earlier acoustic/banjo era and the newer electric guitars.
Very good reaction. I enjoyed your comments.
You're about to break into tears. Must bring a sad memory. The Boxer, reminds me, of the character in the book, "Death Ship." By B Traven, who wrote the classic book/movie, "Treasure of Sierra Madre." A not very bright sailor, with bad luck. Everyone takes advantage of him. His last gig, is sailing a ship, to be sunk, for insurance purposes. Only the captain and a few officers will survive. To make the sinking more real. The Boxer, is probably doomed to die in the ring. Probably, by his opponent, using leaded gloves.
Excellent reaction and insight
The Travelling Wilburys are worth a listen
The original is magic and my vote for next Simon and Garfunkel is Ceciliađ
Would love to see what you think of 'Cecilia'. It's one of my favorites!
Your face as you were listening was priceless â€ïž
I would recommend a listen to Sound of Silence both the Simon and Garfunkle version and Disturbed. The contrast is amazing.
Just checked, I guess you already did.
Give a listen to âMy Little Townâ - Simon and Garfunkel.
Simon and Garfunkel are harmonic perfection. As many others have said their studio version of The Boxer is magnitudes better than this live version. Next try Scarborough Fair, or Homeward Bound.
"The chorus consists of repetitions of the non-lexical vocable "lie-la-lie". Simon stated that this was originally intended only as a placeholder, but became part of the finished song.
"I didn't have any words! Then people said it was 'lie' but I didn't really mean that. That it was a lie. But, it's not a failure of songwriting, because people like that and they put enough meaning into it, and the rest of the song has enough power and emotion, I guess, to make it go, so it's all right. But for me, every time I sing that part... [softly], I'm a little embarrassed.""
Good Reaction in front of 500,000 in Central Park:)
And this is when they were older, when they were younger it was even more congruent. Itâs like 12 people are singing
Waylon Jennings did a cover of this song. Pretty good.
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I second this!!! Amazing performance.
My Little Town is another great.
In the original, the chorus featured the repetitive sound of hits to the bag. A much more powerful mode of presentation.
On a similar theme listen to Bob Dylan's Hurricanes he actually just sings a story.
People are saying always do the studio version. But that is not always true. The best version of Fleetwood Mac's The Chain, is a live version on the channel Buckingham's Gems. There are two. You want the one with Buckingham wearing a straw hat in the thumbnail photo. Trust me.
you have to do the "me first and the gimme gimme's" cover. the original is great but the cover is epic
Check out THE JAYY SHOW. She's able to do a reaction on the studio version of this, without having to block the screen so we can barely see it. Seeing the artist is all part of the overall performance too.
Oh, PLEASE listen to the studio version??? This performance was just . . . . raggedy. Frail. Disoriented. Not a fair test at all.
According to an interview I saw with Paul Simon, there is a common trick by singers in concert If they forget the words to just La la la to the melody until you remember the words again. While writing the Boxer Paul decide to put the lie lie lie in the chorus so if that ever happened in concert they we're still singing words of the song
The lie is what he keeps telling himself about getting away from the merciless city and profession he's in, he's still there taking punches!
What James O'Blivion said.
Not about sons. You have a very nice face. You smile helps me get through.
This is lovely but you missed hearing some beautiful studio touches ringing out.