How To Glue Your Kick and Tech House Bass Together
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In this tutorial, we will be going over this cool way I learned to glue the kick and bass together. I have to give credit where it's due, as WHITE SEA STUDIO first implemented this idea in one of his videos.
There are 3 reasons your bass and kick aren't glued together
*Sound Selection
Ever find a KICK that just worked well with your bass that it sounded like it didn't need a sidechain? Ever switch out a crap kick out of your track and put in a different one only to notice the mix get better? This is all due to picking sounds that work well together. For Tech-House 909 Kicks work the best with filtered analog-based basslines.
* Perfect Sidechain
A sidechain is crucial in dance music to allow the kick of the space it needs to not clash with your bass. The problem is some people sidechain a bit too much resulting in more of a pump effect that leaves a gap in low-end energy.
* Compression
Depending on the bassline and kick you've chosen the dynamics on both will be at different values. With compression, we can glue them together to get more of a compact feel.
TimeStamps
00:00 INTRO
00:28 WHITE SEA STUDIO Mention
00:45 The Kick and Bass
01:11 Proper Sound Selection
01:30 Sidechain
03:29 Main Technique MB
04:36 Thump Of The Kick Compression
05:41 Making It UP
07:01 Glue Compression Instead
08:01 OUTRO Gonna GO EAT
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Bro, Zen's little hidden jokes are just gold sometimes lmao xD
I try... I TRY... You know i'm just sitting here in the studio trying to get in you BYBY
Shout outs to the Snake Oil guy. He has a great channel.
Even tho I use logic, your videos have always helped me through my journey of being a producer. Gracias zen 🙏🏼
ahhh love this track
Thanks man! This helped a lot!
Thanks dude
very useful tips ! I've finally found a good way to make my low end compact and glued :) thanks a lot
GREAT VIDEO
That exacly what i need. Thks Zen for ce tutoriel. Ma bass va pomper severe avec ce tuto.French kiss😗😝
Yes ! Thank you very much.
You help me alot bro . BIG FAN
Man you get me going!
It`s all good!
White Sea studios is awesome!
this is like the number 1 thing my mixes were lacking, I always wondered "WHY THE FUCK does the kick sound so throat hitting, but so small for some reason, it's like it powerful and not powerful at the same time" and this is not just for tech house, every single professional mixing engineer does this I'm 100% sure every big labels sounds so nicely glued together, thank you zen, I saw this before but I had to come back
Yeahh boyy coz u need balance for the kick bass and when they come together they sound better
Anyone using Cubase group your kick and bassline together by right clicking (group channels) and use the built in MB compressor with the same config as fabfilter. It translates really well and make a huge improvement for me.
Trackspacer 🤙🏼
Witse from White sea studio (Holland) Great channel!
Started a tech house track this morning and this is exactly what I was struggling with. Can you stop stalking me please?✋
He is stalking me too bro...
@@yago8672 Dude, when I started making Psytrance he released Psytrance tutorials, right now I'm doing Tech House and he's mostly doing Tech House. He's obviously stalking...
hey professor zen,
I saw the way you use side chain or lfo tool for the sub bass part. There is actually an issue always happens to me when I tried to mix them. Basically, if i don't use a heavy( straight curve) volume reduction in lfo or any kinds of a compressor sidechian( DOESNT MATTER THE RATIO OR THRESHOLD), the sub bass still fight with the sub of the kick. What do you do with it?
This brings the second question. Whats your way to actually tell if the sub bass and the sub bass of kick are clashing or not well mixed?
Usually I trust my meter. If the sub freqeuncy is not sustaining, that means they are not mixed properly.
Great Video! Very useful.
A basic tutorial for a basic producer. The greatest joys in life are basic TOO
@@ZenWorld you're totally right! 😂
I swear this is the exact bass line to Fisher- Just feels tight
Thumbnail is sick.
how do you change the slope of band? mines like a bell curve and I'm lost lol
Zen what is the intro song you use in the background??
If you already use pro-mb on the master, is it redundant to have another one on the group track doing the same thing?
@zen world how much attack and release I set??
I need to tame the transients on my kicks. kinda new to house production (DnB guy) and I keep picking kicks with to much click\smack in the beginning. I should prob not use a transient shaper and just pick different kicks. Weird part is they don't sound that clicks when i just got the kick going... later down the line of making the tune is when i notice it.
Ok this might not be about edm but can someone please tell me how to level my kick and 808 when making trap? How can I make both fit together. Thank you
Can you make a video about how to be creative while making a Tech House? So I mean, I create drums and groove, but I have difficulties in the creativity part.
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8===D
how can i make this with ableton stock plugins?
My wife left me because my kick never fit in her bass :(
There are plenty of bass in the lake
Who needs a series on tracks like Jack Back (David Guetta)
Hahahahahaha!! I'm dead! I had to replay, " TO GET THE PUMP!!"
I ate already from india good night 😊😊
Yo Zen, do you know what kind of kicks are used by doorn records producers? For example well the obvious one Sander Van Doorn, Bottai, David Tort and some other non doorn producers like Mastrovita and Funkin Matt. I notice my kicks just don't sound as tight as theirs, too bassy in most cases and I can't seem to get around it. Mostly actually my kick doesn't sound throat hitting as for example the one you have in your track, it's probably a mixing issue for me also, not just a sample choice. Also if you need new ideas I would love a full tutorial on how to make and mix a Doorn Records type track, I would call the genres there future trance, I know you love trance so you might find it interesting. Thanks!
EDIT: well, watched the video through the end, I really hear the difference, that's the thing I was looking for lol
Are you gonna release this track? She bangs bud.
liked and commented b4 video started. it better be good zen
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@@ZenWorld lolllllll
Give me clasess
shoes come off and freaks come out 🎵🎵
Mac over PC in 2020 for ya? Btw could you tell specs of your macbook?
32 GIGS OF RAM 2 TB Highest CPU Highest GPU I could get. PRICEY but if I want for a PC Counterpart then I wouldn't be able to write off more!
PC Or MAC all the same I got the mac as a way to prevent me from clogging up my computer with games as well.
Honestly, went from a pc to a Mac. I honestly really miss the PC. You can get so much more for less on a PC.
@@ZenWorld I love that you got a mac for the same reason as me, so you wont play games LOOOL
I rock the PC at home, Mac on the go. My PC is loaded with shit though (plug-in's from like everywhere, legacy shit, etc.). The Mac is all streamlined and minimal. was i in this convo? i'll walk my way out
How can I become a student??
That’s Wietse from White Sea Studio. He’s a great audio engineer.
OT now: it sounds lovely but isn’t it better to use the mono input from Fabfilter Pro MB?
his video is great, specially because he is talking about multiband compression on master/pre-master
Diogo Gomes I didn’t said that his video isn’t great. I was asking a question.
I love a mono input. Right up my rear bus technique. Thanks bro.
Tazce Rogers 😆
some people like to wait till the master for multiband mono work, but I hear you... i see people go both ways. the way he did it retains the stereo field that might be in the kicks very top end.
Prip Prip
Go ahead , say 'utilizing' one more time , GIVE ME A REASON Zen World ! ! !
either this orrrrrrr just get volumeshaper
I can't hear the difference :/
Why aren't you shoting in 60p anymore :(
Looks way better when I don't run the camera with a higher shutter speed as I need better lighting. Also someone advised me to stay to 30p so it doesn't LOOK JITTERRY
I think his name is Wietse. Maybe?
freaks come out :)
Fisher's Ghost Producer confirmed , lol
Your voice was really low compared to when the audio track played... which made my eardrums explode when I turned up the volume
Sorry still having issues with Final Cut Pro audio leveling. In vegas pro it was easier to control them
@@ZenWorld its all good. Thank you for teaching us
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Good job, you lost all the groove with 1 plugin.
Depends really on the type of track you use it on. For anything sustained this works as 100% of the time there are no dynamics to a sustained Bass. Keep in mind as well that PRO MB isn't running an actual 0 ATTACK MS, it uses an algorithm and dependent on your percentage of attack/release inputted it will adapt to your music. Can't really comment much how it works as they don't reveal that. All the best Luc and do what works best for you.
@@ZenWorld I mean obviously you couldn't really get every band's attack and release right in the time this video took to really get it pumping, but just hearing the end result is a bit underwhelming as the kind of tight groove the kick and bass had before was all lost
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