Clarkson T&C grinder wheel cover || RotarySMP
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- A collaboration with Luke from Malta to improve the Clarkson tool and cutter grinder. Making a rotary broach to test it out.
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00:00 - Intro
01:11 - Vacuum adapter
04:31 - Welding it up
05:25 - Mail time
12:57 - Threading
13:41 - The mounting bits
20:52 - Way covers
22:29 - Painting
23:32 - Final assembly and testing
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Ace - Misirlou
Stevie Ross - Through Their Mind
Van Stee - Handle
Straight White Teeth - Bell - Věda a technologie
You must be very pleased with how your channel has grown!sponsor donated welder and a very generous group of followers. I'm part of the hoard that came over when TOT gave you a shout out and i do not regret it. I do my home machining out of my single car garage which i share with a car but it's amazing what you can make with not very much.
Thanks a lot for sticking around Hugo. The community is the best aspect of YT :)
Sometimes I forget how "small" his channel still is. The content here is excellent and the production quality is better than channels with 10x the subscribers. I have been watching since the TOT shout-out as well, and am so glad I came over. Look forward to these every Sunday (though I am a day late this week).
Wow, what an excellent mailbag! Thank you to all that sent in the cool stuff!
Hi Vince, it was really generous of Paul and Christian.
Mail time was more like Christmas, great stuff. Nice job on the coal scoop. - Heather
Yeah, Paul and Christian are seriously generous guys.
Wow, power tapping a bottom hole with a hand held drill into your machine table. You're a brave guy ;-)
Another good video. Love the modifications. Glad to painted all of the new parts.
Thanks. It kind of looks complete now. :)
"Incredibly generous gift". Yeah, no kidding. One heck of a care package.
Paul and Christian are real Champs.
Hi mark I really like the wheel guard. When you use the pulse function you have to set your amps higher than usual to compensate for the pause. I‘m shure your welder has a spot welding function try it out. It helps tremendously putting on the initial tags on thin stuff. The DCMT shank is called neutral you can use it either for right and left-hand cuts. Glad you liked the chuck it#s supposed to be nos the gew on it is still the original. I really enjoyed the video keep up the great work. Thank you.
Hi Christian, Thanks for the tip. It was fund pulse welding stainless. Quite a different "feel" than with mild steel.
Yeah, That Röhm is a beautiful chuck. That you very much.
@@RotarySMP Thank you for the effort you put in your videos. for me stainless is more of a hot start and than decreasing the energy compared to steel wich is more of a wave when you use the pedal……..
@@SuperAnodyne I still haven't got much of a feel for the pedal. It doesnt seem very progressive, with little tune down, till the off point.
Awesome mail time this time. Lots of goodies 👍
All that hard work and you made a coal scooper 😂
I have to find appreciation from my efforts online :)
Love the Moroccan inspired music this week.
Thanks for the feedback Paul. I thought it kind of fitted the Vibe.
I like the color "mismatch". I like the idea that the bits that are original are one color, and the bits you've added are an intentionally different color.
Thanks JB. I didn't put enough effort into matching this pain, as I did when I did the wheeled base.
Looks like you made the paint a shade of air force grey. Old habits, eh? Thanks again for the amusement, alwas good to hear from Mr & Mrs Rotary. Hope you have a great summer.
Thanks Rick. I probably should have put a little more effort into matching that paint. It needs more black than I think.
Such generous people in your community. Very nice machine enhancement.
Hi Brian, the really are. I really appreciate the community of online machine people. Very nice people.
what an impressive mail time ! looking forward to seeing that chuck mounted . having bolt on top jaws means that
you can also use machinable soft jaws. Not needed for one off work, but an every day item for large volume work.
And your welding and weld hiding is progressing nicely😉
Hi Steve, Yeah, I need to get a slug of cast iron to make up a back plate, and either turn a pull tube shank, or maybe mod the one from my other automatic chuck.
I really enjoyed playing at welding stainless.
Great video Mark, I would suggest replacing the front shield screws with some studs then use a hairpin cotter pin to hold the shield in place, that way you don't risk stripping the threads and it makes it faster to remove for disk change.
Yeah, but it seems like I dont need to remove it. I can just swing it away on the mount post.
Man I just love that cutter grinder.
That’s just what I need for my tiny little shop. I ran out of room a few machines ago and I still need a couple key pieces of equipment..
I’m super sure nobody else has this problem….. 🫤
But the welding looks great from my perspective !
And wow, them care packages! What a generous group of followers ! That just blows my mind. Humans are amazing.
Hi Jason, I feel the same way. The online machining community are a really nice bunch.
The Clarkson is a fun tool.
That welding looked really good, you have come on in leaps and bounds! I have only done stick welding with a hand held mask. It is so good to see what the arc is about, thank you.
I am really enjoying it. Need to go and swapout my empty argon bottle today.
Nice work. Great vid. Fantastic gifts.
Thanks for the entertainment.
Hi Steven, thanks for watching it.
That round bar had a definite Jeremy-esque vibe to it, only milder. 😄
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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing :)
Thanks for making my Sunday mornings. I always look forward to your videos. 🇨🇦
You are so welcome! Thanks for the kind feedback Michael.
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Holy smokes that vise attachment for the work is brilliant. I need to copy that for my d-bit
Hi Paul, do you mean the Clarkson three axis vise? I is a handy accessory.
Excellent work my friend. I’m always very impressed with your abilities.
Thanks for your kind feedback.
Those Tig kits are really nice, I've got one each for both air and water cooled torches. One tip I picked up over years, was to leave the long back caps in the drawer and just run the short one. That means splitting each tungsten into three pieces right off, but that works out by having many more to blunt and glob up before stopping to re-grind.🤣
I have cut all my 1/16 in two, and will also chop up the 3/32's as they dont fit the stinger anyway.
What a splendid video all around and a lovely start to my day. The generosity of your viewers is astounding!
Glad you enjoyed it. They are the best.
An awesome ground connection for welders is a length of tinned braided copper ground strap and a spring - bolt one end of the braid to your ground cable and then the spring on one end of the braid. You just wrap the braid around what you want to ground and hook your spring on the cable.
Works well for rotary welding tables, odd shapes etc
Thanks for the tip.
You had a really early Christmas there with those gifts.😁👍
Hi Ken, yeah it was really generous of Paul and Christian.
I’m glad you can make use of the box. 😆
I’d be tempted to turn two or three of the screw holes on that cover into keyhole shapes and put a thumbscrew on the other one or two. Undo the thumb screw and then slide it off the other screws.
Hi Jeremy, and thanks.
I worked out that I dont even need to remove that cover... ever. I can just swing the cover out of the way with the mount bars.
@@RotarySMP even better!
Nice work!
And some very nice donations to the channel
Thanks Rob. It was a very generous gift from Paul and Christian.
You could always make some knurled thumbscrews for the front of the wheel guard, then you wouldn't have to worry about needing an Allen Wrench to remove the front plate. 👍👍
Good idea, but I think I can probably get away with just swinging it away.
You have some nice friends!
The online machining enthusiasts are nice people.
a good rule of thumb for tungsten stick-out is (1/16" times the cup number) is the max stick-out for that cup.
Thanks for that tip. I was wondering.
Pulse takes a bit to get used to. Try to only move the torch on the low, and stay steady on the high. Pick a pulse rhythm you can keep up easily, and speed it up when you get comfortable.
Thanks for the tip.
For the vacuum hose adapter, that is a perfect use case for a 3d printer, slower but makes for clean results with much less physical work
Yeah, unless the sparks ignite it :)
@RotarySMP i though of that, but you would have just had to make the metal part of the pipe longer to give the sparks time to cool down. At the end of the day the hose is plastic too. But yours does look slick
@@Hilmi12 Yeah, I thought about 3D printing it, but wanted to play with the welder :)
Turned out nicely, odd this was this week's subject for you, as I have spent a little time today looking for a mini Vac to use on the Tool & Cutter Grinder I just spent 10 weeks building. My wheel guard is a cast Aluminium item, that fits onto the end of the spindle housing, but it has a spanner slot that I am hoping can be used to suck the dust back in behind the wheel and out. On the subject of wearing rings while working, back when I was working as a Motor Mechanic, I had my hand up and over a gearbox while standing under the car on a hoist, my wedding ring got hooked up on something, by the time I got it free, blood was freely flowing down my arm and it had cut into me deeply. I took the damn thing off, threw it across the workshop and I haven't worn a ring since.
Ouch, that must have really suck. Pretty easy to loose a finger.
The grinding wheel throws its sparks pretty fast, so the vac can really only work if the spark is heading into the cover.
Wow, Christian is a most excellent subscriber.
A true champ!
Instead or removing the 4 screws to remove the outer plate... Couldn't you just loosen the mount and swing the whole thing up out of the way?
EDIT: NVM, you figured it out. 😂
I am glad that that works :)
Nice job 👍
Thanks Joel.
It occurred to me that toolholders like you got in the mail would work on a mini-lathe if you put the dovetail into it directly.
Hi Jim, Yeah, I have seen that done.
Great work!
But be careful, the sparks you pick up from grinding can start a fire in your vacuum cleaner. Especially if there are normal household dust, even worse, wood shavings in there.
Thanks,
I clean it out before switching between wood shop and machine shop.
as always, good job!
Thanks Roger.
Great job as always. I powder coat everything I can fit into my lab oven. Not only does it look much better, but there’s no chance those parts can rust. I also take off everything I can from a machine that’s painted and powder coat them. The problem is that my oven is just 17 x 17.5 x 28 inches and parts have to be smaller so they can hang in without touching the sides. That’s a really nice grinder. I’m surprised the manufacturer didn’t think of those end covers. If I had the machine I would have done what you have to improve it.
I have never powdered coated, but the climate here means I dont have a rust issue.
@@RotarySMP believe me, you are very lucky! But it’s also much more durable.
@@melgross I am kind of interested, but it would be one more rabbit hole to run down and I have too many of them already :)
@@RotarySMP that’s fine. I could give you some of the holes I’ve tripped over.
There is a company in the UK paragon paints they make enamel paint that is a colour match for the Clarkson grinder as originally out of the factory among other machinery paint colours if you want to get fancy you could powder coat it or hard chrome it if you feeling particularly posh and fancy
I put a bit more effort into matching paint on the wheeled stand. I should have added more black this time.
I would've CNC turned some PVC for the adapter. Yours is better as an integrate piece.
The guards need some safety orange!
Yeah, that would have been easier.
@@RotarySMP but it turned into a great opportunity to practise your TIG - it's getting pretty good IMHO
@@MurrayC Thanks Murray. I really enjoyed welding the stainless steel.
Very nice work sir. Very interesting.
If you would like to learn more about how to set up and weld with pulse, the channel Little Aussie Rockets just posted a really solid tutorial video on the subject
Thanks for the tip, I'll check that out.
Good Morning, Mark. 2:02 A warning to put on our welding helmets before starting would have been ripper 🙃
Commenting for CZcams's algo.
Sorry about that :)
For colour matching you could weight out the various paints and then make a note of it, that way next time you need to match it's less work
Only that would lead to Mrs Rsmp murdering me for getting paint on the kitchen scales :)
I really like these small project videos. They match very well with what happens in my life. You hit the jackpot with your mail call. Very generous of the senders.
On the Clarkson, to address the gaps in dust collection with certain wheel configurations how about an extension shield held in place magnetically?
Hi joe, could work... but magnets around grinders make for a really messy magnet.
@@RotarySMP true but depending on how it was done the mess could be minimized. Plus on the magnet beats on the ways.
@@joedowling5452 It is a shame the Maho has to live in the same room with the grinder. I am not happy about that.
Nice job. One thing though just for looks; I would have welde the outside of the vacuum connection on the hood as well. And, correct me if I'm wrong; at the start of the footage the tip of the TIG rod looked blunt, or no sharp tip, which doesn't help steering the arc to the area of interest I noticed. Maybe a tip. Best, thank you for sharing, Job
Too late, I bogged that transition with bondo :)
Yeah, I might have already dipped that a tiny bit. Oops.
I tend to back up stainless with an aluminium chunk at the back to keep air out and stop it over heating
Thanks for the tip Chris.
From memory, I believe items shipped from Germany to other countries need to be mailed with some sort of insurance cover or up front cash payment. In other words if the buyer later alledges the items didn't arrive via the mail system, the seller has to re-imburse both them and the mail delivery system used (post office?) I may not be entirely putting this correctly, but something along these lines was explained to me when I attempted to buy something from a seller in Germany for delivery to me in Spain. No problem for a large company, but a one man operation it would not be worth it.
Oh, that would make sense.
@@RotarySMP there's also a new packaging material that came into effect for austria i'm pretty sure.
so while it's true that EU usually shouldn't have any issues there is additional things you have to watch out for as a vendor selling to austria and some just don't want to bother.
If I were you I would use the first and fourth holes on that cover plate and then make a knurled larger diameter thumb wheel for one of the allen bolts then you can have access to the nut by taking off the thumb wheel and rotating the guard around the other bolt.
Good idea Michael, but I later found I can change wheels without removing the cover, just swinging it away on the mount shaft.
Excellent as always! Why not convert the screws on the cover to studs and wing nuts or thumb screws? Then you don't have to mess about with tools and holding it all together.
Turned out that I dont need to remove the cover. I can switch wheel by just swinging it out of the way.
Grinder and paint makes you welder you ain't. 😁
Yeah, I felt sticker was false advertising :)
Grate mail time today ! I used thumb screws on my cover easy to take off then
Hi Luke, It look like I wont need to remove it, as I can swing it away on the mount bars.
More that one way to do things :)
@@LCalleja Please send me a photo of your mount system again.
Maybe you could keyhole the slots in the cover plate to make removal and replacement easier?
Hi Andy,
After a bit of playing around with it, it looks like I never need to remove the cover, and can just change wheels by swinging it away on the mount arms.
Good Job Luke!
First time I heard you speak Deutsch (I think) "Ventiel"
Servus Johannes, Deutsch kann ich, oder zumindest Denglish :)
@@RotarySMP genau!
Almost forgot. The cover, you could just take 3 screws out and loosen the 4th, swing the cover and snug it up to hold it 'fest'...
Yeah, but it seems like I dont need to remove it. I can just swing it away on the mount post.
Keep up with the surfari's bazouki music 😊
Thanks for the feedback, Alan. I thought that kind of fitted the vibe of this video. :)
Studs and wing nuts will make cover removal a cinch.
Turned out, I can change wheels without removing that cover, as i can just swing it out on the mount bar.
In pols mode then you stand still when it's high ( most power ) and move over when it's lov. What we did in weld stainless steel in school we used aluminum tape on the pipe ( since argon is heavier) hold it over the open hole. Push the button for like a min to fill the inside of the tube with gas. Witch took care of the inside of the tube when we welded
I saw you also got a carbide blank and just so happen to have made a drawing for a burnishing faceing tool for a mill xD wouldn't mind sending the drawing to you so you can make one for yourself and use it
Thanks. I need to practice the timing of pulse welding like that.
Do you have a link to the burnishing tool you made?
@@RotarySMP i only made the drawings ( made the drawings last week but havent had any means to produce it yet. though i was thinking about asking my old school if i could borrow there machine's to kame it on and pay for the material )
21:55 oh no, chamfering after tapping. Just make sure that the shop-meister does not see you :D :D
That was not a prohibition in my apprenticeship. But we didn't do much tapping. On aircraft we tend to rivet in anchor nuts.
You can tig braze with silicon bronze or something similar.
That is another process I would like to learn.
Hi Mark, a rule of thumb for TIG is 40A per mm of material thickness. Start there and work up and down as needed.
Funny how there are different colloquial names for body filler. You called it BOG I think, I've always called it COQUIE pronounced cock-ee. I can't remember what I have heard from the US.
Hi Bill. They call it Bondo.
Yeah, I started way too hot on the two mm stainless, but quite liked it once I started pulsing at a lower current.
@@RotarySMP Funny, I have been TIG welding stainless steel on and off for about 35 years and have had my own decent AC/DC TIG welder for 5. I have never tried the pulse on it, I really must give it a go. Trouble is there are so many things going, on I'm always in a hurry to get them done and never take the time to practice properly.
Bondo, why I couldn't remember that, I have no idea, more senior moments since I retired.
Maybe it's time to try out making some fasteners that are retained in the cover plate....
Turned out, I dont need to remove that plate. I can switch wheels by just swinging the cover away on its shafts.
Excellent video as always. However you've only actually moved your Clarkson projects. They seem to have now appeared on my board.. 🤣 if the CAD files are about for the grinding hood I'd be interested. Look forward to the hard turning video.
Hi if you want the cut files I can send them to you best would probably be if you get in touch with mark and he will pass you on to me (his email is in the about page)
@@LCalleja I appreciate it thanks Luke
No problem glad to help out :)
Just drop me an email and I will get those DXF files to you.
I see I’m not the only one that buys cutting boards from a swedish retailer in bulk…
Handy source of engineering plastic :)
I’d paint the wheel guard.
Hi polish the way covers.
I kind of liked the matt finish of the way covers after acid pickling.
Looks smart 😀 how about some magnets instead of the four screws?
Hi Julia, I dont really like magnets around grinding dust, as that just gets messy, and it turned out I dont need to remove that cover. I can just swing the whole cover away.
@@RotarySMP I'd commented before the end of the video DOH,! Yeah iron filings are not much fun. Maybe some knurled bolts?
Please retitle the video to include Clarkson ..this should get you some more well deserved viewers. Secondly could you release ( on Luke's behalf ?) the sheet metal files so we can all make a new hood !!. Clearing some whiteboard is always satisfying
It says Clarkson in the description, but I will try the change. I will pass this on to Luke.
I will happily share the cut files just not sure on the best way to do so. If you want to get in touch it would probably be best to go threw Mark I am sure he won’t mind being the middle man :)
Please send me an Email. There is a link from the channel main page.
Your welding has got way better! How long has it been since you dipped an electrode?
Also, once the Clarkson comes off the board, are you going to be replacing it with a parallelogram arm for that auto tapper?
I still constantly dip electrodes, when I am out of position.
I really dont know, as it is not the sort of tool I really need. I rarely tap larger holes than M6.
05:25 It's Christmas again
Sure is. Paul and Christian are really generous.
@@RotarySMP You got yourself a lot of jealous viewers today
Very nice gifts. You're spoiled, Mark. But, of course, there is nothing wrong with that.
And did you try to shovel coal with that guard?
Hi Michel. I am, the online machining community are the best.
Not yet ;)
That's a lot for one video... way to bring it all together.
One quick question on the clarkson. That collet for holding the workpiece while grinding, is it custom?
I've started playing around with ER-11 collets, because their cheap and small. What size is the one on the grinder?
Thanks,
Have a great Sunday! ~Mike
That was a cheap chinese ER16 collet chuck with a 1" shank, so it mounts straight into the Clarkson universal head. The collet was a 10mm ER16. I also have an ER32 - 1" shank, but it has a rather long neck.
Rather than four fasteners on the cover, why not one pivot and one at the bottom in a slot with a wing nut so it can swing away rather than have to entirely come off each time?
After a bit of playing around with it, it looks like I never need to remove the cover, and can just change wheels by swinging it away on the mount arms.
Could you three of those four holes so it can twist into place with a single knurled screw (preferably captive) to hold it in place?
I found I dont need to remove that plate, as I can change wheels just by swinging the whole cover out of the way.
I need friends that give me such gifts
Publish nearly a video a week for three and half years, and see how that works out :)
4 fasteners on the cover - what about wing nuts?
After a bit of playing around with it, it looks like I never need to remove the cover, and can just change wheels by swinging it away on the mount arms.
Very nice gifts!
What song is played during painting, can’t find it on Spotify?
I listed the music at the bottom of the video info, in the order they played. I subscribed to Artlist.io, and use music from there.
@@RotarySMP
I searched and listened to the last three songs, but they didnt sound like the one I’m looking for!
If they are listed in the correct order?
@@HP_rep_mek Should be. I have ofloaded the project to my NAS now, and turned it off. I'll check when I power it back up.
What was your score for your vise and why haven't you thrown it over the side of the ferry yet?
Do you mean the little Clarkson swivel vise? Lovely little tool. Really handy.
What brand is the mystery inset tool holder ? I vaguely recall trapeziodal shaped inserts that were intended for diameter cutting only.
they had cutting surfaces on 2 sides only. also used for shell/face milling cutters. I want to say Ingersoll but its been so long ago and far
away..
Do you mean the CBN VCMT insert. I think Christian said it was from Atorn.
oops bad description the tool holder at 8:57
@@steveggca No brand on it, but the stamped model details do kind of look like Sandvik's style. SDNCN 2020 K11. It fits DCMT09's by the look of it.
Klaxon? That's a horn isn't it?
Kind of an air raid siren :)
Question do you maybe know someone who sells square or round pieces of hss? Searching for something like that for my gear cutters.
I bought a box of Cleveland Mo-Max HSS off ebay about two decades ago, and am only half way through it. I suspect this round HSS will also last a while.
Hoffmann has a wide selection of HSS blanks.
www.hoffmann-group.com/DE/de/hom/Zerspanung/Drehbearbeitung/Konventionelle-Drehwerkzeuge/Drehlinge/c/10-03-05-01-00?tId=832
@@RotarySMP Ahh these are more for Lathe Blanks i’m searching something more plate like to make cutters for gears etc.
@@platin2148 How would you work them? It is very difficult to heat treat HSS.
@@RotarySMP Hmm having high HRC Endmills with wich i cut hss and pdk + diamond wheels ?
@@platin2148 I thought poly crystalline diamond was for softer materials, and CBN was used for hard turning? I hard turned those HSS blanks with the Schaublin and CBN, and even after two of those blanks, the CBN was pretty worn. I would hate to do an interrupted cut.
So you didn't mention this, and so I'm sure viewers might not have considered this, and I fear you might not have either:
You want to make sure your vacuum is a high-end machine with a HEPA-type filter, or you're just going to be spraying those small bits of grinding wheel stone into the air everywhere, and you'll get silicosis or some other horrible disease. Be safe!
I wear a proper cartridge mask while grinding, even with the vac.
12:17 I cannot even count, how many times I ran into sellers like that on german Ebay in the past 20+ years that I'm buying stuff from there. My best guess would be (maybe a little too offensive for this channel...) that probably those are people who's supporting, let's say, the rightmost wing of the political circus and for them foreigners are probably still "Untermensch" - as most of them would not even communicate to us either... even not in German language! There is no other logical explanantion on this matter, I can fully understand those who don't want to sell to Switzerland, or the States, because there is a lot of hassle with customs and stuff, but within EU is just like selling it to the neighbouring village... morons. Unfortunately, I lost so much good stuff because of stubborn sellers during the years...
There was a comment that the German post insurance system makes it a PITA for the seller if the package goes missing, and that is most likely the issue.