Archimedes Sphere, Perpetual motion machine 永久運動機械
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- Archimedes Sphere. Perpetual motion machine is not really an Archimedes invention. But his name could help to understand will it work or will it not work. Yes, buoyancy force. Think about it.
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I like the inconspicuous large base
GeorgeS Most definetely the best part
HAAA!!! It needs that large base to contain the massive amount of energy it's generating!
Yeah? I like how the white noise in the recording cuts out as soon as the device starts working, almost as though that particular segment of audio was edited or replaced in post.
@PotatoTornado Le mouvement perpétuel n'existe pas
remind me, why are we subscribing to fake stuff again?
chen howard because it's free!!!
hey! he actually admitted it!
Fun to build and show if you're not trying to lie to people or yourself about what's happening. Presented as anything more than a cool trick, this would be in poor taste, right?
For probably the same reason we like magic tricks. Which is essentially the same thing.
because it's entertaining.....why watch starwars movies?.......
2:01 video cuts out and is that because he had to run the wires to the motor then edit that part out so it seemed he moved it on the table w/o anything attached?
Doesn't have to be wires could just be a fan or air compressor blowing air on it. When i listened to this i heard a slight buzzing sound just like what you hear in noise canceling. Meaning they probably edited out the sound of the air blowing on it. The screws on the side are more than enough to catch the air and make this rotate.
@Baker Vivaan
No you havent
There are so many physics violations in this video, I don't even know where to begin.
The mass of the water, and its gravitational pull is still the same on both sides. The fact that the ping pong ball displaces the weight of the of the sinker means that the extra volume and mass is again, on the other side. Thus, negating the entire point of this guy's "invention." All this is governed by Archimedes' principle of buoyancy.
Then there's the matter of the friction on the arm on the sinker/floater, the joints of the cradle, and the friction of the fluid itself, and finally the atmospheric drag, all working to slow the container.
Since we've determined that the supposed imbalance doesn't exist, meaning that there is no kinetic energy being generated through the device to overcome the friction in the system, then I must conclude that there is energy being fed into the system from the outside.
Now the question is how that energy is being fed. The simplest system that would deliver sufficient energy is a small motor with a belt feeding the arm end we can't see clearly. (the belt being a thin string in this case). A step up from that would be compressed air blowing across one side. I doubt that one, because the energy transfer would be inefficient, and the mass involved is probably too high for that system to reach the speed depicted.
Please, in the future, try not to soil a scientist like Archimedes' name with such a dumb attempt to pervert the principle that he figured out how to quantify.
+Skyfighter64 It seems to me that the system would balance to a stop really quick. The water would just surround the ball and weight assembly to whatever degree and then the water would be balanced again. The side the weight is on does not matter to the fluid which will seek a balance by going around the float rather than to be pushed all the way to the other side. Basically the spin you give it will perturb the system but then it will slow as quickly as the friction forces it to.
0ooTheMAXXoo0 That's not how a buoyancy and displacement work.
Because there is a floater on the system, the amount of water displaced is equal to the weight of the arm. Since the space on side A is taken up by the arm, then the same amount of space must be taken up on side B.
Equal mass, equal volume, no imbalance, ergo no perpetual motion mechanics.
+0ooTheMAXXoo0 it did stop really quick at 2:00, he forgot to have the motor on :)
+Skyfighter64 I don't think I've ever seen a better example of someone seemingly sharp being so incredibly dull.
+Skyfighter64 There is so many physics violations that physics spend all day under a hot shower scrubbing it skin to the flesh after watching this video.
1:58 "Shit i forgot to plug it in". Cuts to the working demonstration. Lol
Megan Arrington Haha, that's what I thought.
Megan Arrington Haha, that's what I thought.
+Tarik A. Yea 2 funny.
Yes because there is nothing in the world called "editing" yet.
+Megan Arrington Shut up, Megan.
I replaced the wheels of my car with four globes of a similar construction. The only disadvantage is that there is no way to stop it. The thing is perpetually running around in circles on my lawn.
In fact, all the power plants in the Netherlands are using this construction. We have more than enough water here. And Dutchmen do have balls.
The Energy Board is burning massive amounts of fuel merely to keep up appearances.
Good try mate the thing will run out of energy eventually
This is like my ex: cute, but false.
Cut but false XD
cute butt falls
1:57 Let's test it out! Oh it didn't work....
2:01 It's working, it's WORKING!!
+FrostMonolith sudden cut is sudden
LOL
Yah I saw the cut at 2:01 as well. Obviously FAKE.
Liquid Gold It's still funny to think that it suddenly work out
+Liquid Gold It's supposed to not work. Haven't you seen his website?
im actually impressed with how well this guy hides his drive motors
You hide in your imaggination
Agreed.
Ahahahahahahahahaha.... that's hands down the funniest, most original comment Iver ever heard in my life.... I promise you this isn't sarcasm...... or is it? I bet you have so many friends.
All these contraptions eventually fail because of friction and entropy. And you can't get more energy from a closed system than you impart to it. All the energy the sphere has was imparted by the hand of the builder. Any further drag would stop it almost immediately.
Marcus Penny
It could run for a long time, but it wouldn't generate energy.
Cool toy but nothing more.
Marcus Penny Holy grammar and punctuation.
I hadn't considered it necessary to refrain from using sentence fragments in a comments section where the idea is to explain as simply as possible why this is bullshit.
I also LOVE run-on sentences!
Chris Best. Comment. Ever.
And yet, for all the conjecture, it's still an elegant demonstration and a pretty cool conversation piece.
To all smartasses out there: "My Perpetual Motion Machines models are of motorized versions that were built to illustrate how they were supposed to work in the minds of Inventors"
via: www.veproject1.org/index.php/perpetual-motion/
This videos are just for "fun", he is not trying to troll anybody.
+Antonio Barba he does troll the youtube comments though. when people offer the possibility that they are motor/pump driven, followed by an explanation of why the machine could not work without one, he often replies insisting that this is not the case.
what a bad guy :D
+Antonio Barba no, it's hilarious, but saying he doesn't troll is just lying
+MrDominator60 He only trolls the clueless. Trolling people who can't be bothered to do 12 seconds of research isn't really trolling in my opintion.
+Antonio Barba It would be more fun, and educational, if they showed how it was supposed to work, then explain why it doesn't, instead of doing a shitty editing job that poorly hides the deception.
I don't get it. Where is the fish ?
+Johan Rosly hwat??????
+Johan Rosly it's riding a bike in the ping pong ball to power the bowl.
+AdvocateVaping QuashMonopolisingRegulation lulz
lol
Is the fish technically alive and dead simultaneously?
Clearly not fake! The water is blue AND he used a ruler! Free unlimited energy, here we come!
Yes, mine powers the whole neiborhood for 10 year now... I added 5 electric ells to mine to increase the power output because of our new neibhours. They had a little trouble with the blue colouring, but clean water just didn't work. They got used to it though.
Eviltech Few people realize just how important it is for the water to be blue. And I've seen hundreds of perpetual motion/free energy generators break and burst into flames because no one used a ruler.
i laughed so hard
Exactly! I'm so glad to meet people who actually get the importance of the correct shade of toilet blue, and a last second check with a straight edge! And he even SAID that the ball made "IT" permanently heavier on one side, so it's clear that whatever was making it go was certainly that.
McJaews Truly a case of measure twice, cut once. :)
edit: fixed late night brain fart.
proofs it is being driven:
1. He spins it and it stops... but lets ignore that!
2. He spins it and when he stops it with his hand, he requires more force to stop it than what he used to spin it.
3. It is a viscus fluid, thus in short the macroscopic motion is converted to microscopic motion. You can see very well at 2:43
4. He admits it is in the comments in a twisted way, and pretty much just said its still fun :P
5. Pick up a "physical chemistry" book and learn what the Boltzmann distribution is, or should I say, learn some statistical thermodynamics. Then apply the increase in the average velocity of the water molecules and the energy that would be required to accelerate each of the particles to the point they are now, for the volume of water
6. Also take into account the weight of the water being lifted due to the fluid friction and viscosity, vs its resting state. Then figure out how much energy you have left over to actually raise the velocity of that fluid.
I like channels like this where people do it for fun and leave it at that :)
of coarse they don't actually work. these are just representations of machines famous inventors designed. they are basically art pieces. he isn't trying to fool anyone.
I know, thats what I like about this channel
BK201MXP He is trying to trick whoever he can, watch 2:53-3:01, see text in upper right corner. The text implies that it is a functional perpetual motion machine.
I thought I wouldnt comment this video but yours explenation is great. Just right but please take close look on that weight its more fantastick if you look closer. Also it will work we can also count how long it will work. But one thinks is sure it wouldnt be endless. But right he said in the name Archimedes Sphere I dont think I saw anything else written there. We cannot call it permpetum mobile just because Continous rotation it will end one day
The weight does not make the sphere spin longer...
+veproject1 THIS IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.
+Jordan Bartholme I feel good
+veproject1
You shouldn't.
On the other hand, you've managed to reach 28% of your total thumbs feedback to be negative. It is not everybody who can reach such a lofty negative rating.
Why?
veproject1
I think you're smart enough to figure it out.
+smart451cab I don't know either.
Notice how the base of these contraptions is always unnecessary high?
Why do people still believe in perpetual motion? That's like saying I will continue to take shits without consuming food.
+Jayee because an impossibility dictates that the universe is finite, or so there is no time, place, or scenario, in which perpetual motion could exist. but if the universe is finite, then it'd be possible to travel to the "edge" and then what? maybe perpetual motion is not possible with our current knowledge or resources, but there could always be another dimension, another universe, or some other unknown that could change that.
+fredabomb Get back to me on that when you come back from an alternate reality.
Jayee will do bruh
+Bret McDanel That is news reporters not understanding what they are reporting. In actuality, the 'average density' of space, matter, and everything else for that matter, is not constant throughout the universe, and structures appear throughout the universe. By structures, i do not mean anything made, but tight clustering of stuff. It is not understood because mathmatically, the universe should follow random variation, but stay roughly around the same average but it does not. 'Physics being different' is just a scientist oversimplifying, what he means is, cosmological science will vary based on your position in the universe, due to the non random and highly varying distribution of stuff that makes up your local area in space.
***** Well, i guessed, because I know of this topic, and I do know of that theory, and it is widely controversial. Fact is, we simply do not understand yet why the clustering of galaxies occurs. 'Physics are different' is cheating if you ask me. I strongly disagree that physics vary, and points at some fundamental things we simply currently misunderstand about physics, possibly by developing our understanding with too little a scope.
Next time make that big thick chunky base with clear Plexiglass.
He does not have to, there is clearly rotating white plastic bushing on the back, while front one is steady...
A few points:
1) The weight is equal on both sides (Archimedes principle) and even if it weren't that wouldn't cause this to spin.
2) If you wanted to be even slightly convincing you should have made an effort to reduce the friction with bearings etc. where ever possible.
3) Why didn't it work at all the first time you spun it? All I saw was the gross amount of friction from the water and afore mentioned lack of bearings.
4) Why did you have to jump cut after the failed attempt before you could make it work properly? Did you perhaps need to rig up the motor off camera that was actually making it turn :P
Nice try though, I see you manage to fool more than a few people :)
He's not trying to fool anyone. Read his site description. It is more like an art project meant to show how these devices would move.
I know it doesn't state anywhere in the video, but still, people are fooling themselves. He never stated that these machines actually work.
But he didn't show the motor part. Why didn't he include it? It wouldn't have cost him anything, and taken only a second. He deliberately left that out, to allow us to come to our own conclusions about what we saw. And that is deception.
Well, I think that's precisely the idea, to show how would this machines work in an utopian manner. It's kinda tricky though to not put this banner on all his videos (off course this leads to more views)... but at least he does on his page.
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***** , Thanks, wish he'd taken the time to put that on this video page like you just did.
I just find it immensely dumb that some people believe that the creator of this video had the skill to cut out the part where he "plugs the device in", but he lacked the same skill to actually cut the whole "unplugged" scene out of the video, making it non-existent.
If only it didn't slow down over time due to friction.
the first time he spin the ball you can see the real time it runs like 3% efficency
and then he clips the video for a sec and he adds a motor on the back of it
yep i saw that
True dat
Hate this page. Stupid contraptions that are “perpetual motion” that aren’t perpetual. Ridiculous
Steve M this page is educational and it doesn't state that this contraption is truly a perpetual machine. You're the one who spreads misinformation, stop that
A day in the life of veproject1:
7:00 AM Wake up.
7:04 Get out of bed and get dressed.
7:15 Start making breakfast.
7:16 Come up with a "new" idea for a perpetual motion machine.
7:45 Leave for the hardware store to spend $20 to $50.
8:58 Get back home from the hardware store and hit the workshop.
12:32 Lunch break.
12:50 Break's over, back to work.
5:23 Finish building machine and test it.
5:24 Come up with a way to motorize latest design.
7:05 Begin editing video.
7:41 Post video of motorized "perpetual motion" machine on CZcams.
7:55 Dinner
I can't imagine anyone in their right mind would put this much effort into something unless they _actually_ thought they might one day be successful. You have to admire this guy for his perseverance. If anyone ever stands a chance of successfully building a perpetual motion machine, it's certainly him. And he's not going to let failure stop him either! Every one of his designs will "work!"
I wish I had as much time and disposable income as this guy. I can't imagine what kind of useful things I might accomplish.
i like how the base is unnecessarily large
Glitchdweller ... that depends on how big the motor is that its hiding !
don't worry, on the side that was conveniently covered there was a track with a motor and everything
Nothing is perpetual, not even the universe.
ur mom is
Raymond Davis perpetual motion is possible in my opinion because of newtons reaction law (every action has a reaction of equal or opposite force)
The flaw is that he used the term opinion when speaking of science. Everything beyond that word is irrelevant.
In your opinion.
Scientists say "in my opinion" all the time. They also say "it's my hypothesis"; Is everything after that irrelevant as well? So much for scientific conjecture, which is half of scientific discovery.
Stating something as fact doesn't make it true; that's the Fox News mentality. Nor does stating "in my opinion" from a scientist make their next statement irrelevant.
I stated that as a declarative fact; so by your standards, it's relevant.
Then how come the universe is in a constant state of perpetual expansion ever since inflation?
See, this looks cool, but then you tried to pass it off as a perpetual motion device, even though the video itself shows it being affected by friction.
Oh well. At least I have a cool idea for a fishtank now.
Yes, a spinning fishtank
OMG, scare the poor fish to death ! On other hand they may try to keep up... Hmm if only the fish could keep the sphere rolling, like a hamster does, then you could take your fish for a swim/walk.
Angolin it is a sewing for a perpetual motion machine. there is a difference. if you go to his website he explains that all of his perpetual motion machines are driven by motors and are used just to illustrate how it was DESIGNED to work
Thanks for forcing us to think man, keep it up.
:))
Water weight pressed uniformly in all directions on the sphere walls. So , this device does not rotate
Yeah
經驗很清楚。這位先生想證明 2'00'' 到 2'01'' 之間這種永恆運動的不可行性。由於液體與容器（球體）壁以及水平軸上白色軸承的摩擦力，旋轉速度減慢。旋轉連續性的錯覺是由於相同的重複雜訊暗示的相同一秒視訊序列的循環造成的。沒有其他技巧或隱藏引擎。感謝沒有隱瞞任何事情的實驗者。體驗清晰明了。
I it just me or is anyone else thinking of a fish [hamster] wheel?
Is*
Lisa Pu is it just me, or is it just me?
aj soria okay cool, so it wasn't just me
Landis Rumble wtf is a fish wheel?
he tries to turn it once then there is a very small video cut and then magically it works!
Yes, because obviously it's not a real perpetual motion machine since that doesn't exist. It would violate physics. The purpose is to show how it was intended to work by the person who thought up the idea for it before humanity came to the realization that perpetual motion is impossible. So it's a replica of what the original inventor wanted it to do.
Zawatensho *le sigh* Yes, very well, perhaps. I'm not going to bother to include the possibility that our current ideas of thermodynamics are completely false though because I'll be very long dead by the time that ever happens, if it does.
Completely false?
Go and test them for yourself.
only problem is the execution requires an amount of intelligence.
yes sean, completely false.
I love that it's called the Archimedes Sphere, and the "reason" it works is because the presence of the ping pong ball in one hemisphere makes that hemisphere always heavier. I feel physics has been displaced somewhere.
Reminds me of the time when British Waterways blamed wear & tear damage to aquaducts on modern canal boats being too heavy. You have to understand the physics of buoyancy & displacement to know why that is a profoundly stupid statement.
the ping pong ball makes one side have more force or gravity so it is not balanced :)
Koushi82
No it doesn't, but it's sweet that you think that.
well now I don't know too much about the sphere so I was guessing.
Because you said it would make it heavier thus more force of gravity as what is heavy is only caused by the force of gravity
eg: hemisphere always heavier
so please explain how it works since I didn't see the comment about it yet.
that's kinda why I responded to you since I wanted an explanation.
for now just googling around reading up.
I was guessing that the ping pong caused one side of the sphere to have more mass/density such that the water when the sphere rotates acts differently.
By how different is what you should be explaining to us since you said it first.
thanks. :)
eg, the ping pong makes the water wave higher and lower more so than without the object thus it creates a force that helps rotates the sphere an extra distance.
the extra efficiency is thus caused by the extra gravity.
I don't know about buoyancy that you mentioned because I never read those books.
so you could elaborate you know.
but then the experiment could just as easily have a motor in the back as we never see the back.
Koushi82 The first thing that has to be in the forefront of your mind when watching any demonstration of a perpetual motion machine is that if it appears to work, then *it is fake*. At this point people chime in with "anything is possible" or that kind of thing. Well, anything is not possible. Some things are impossible. And perpetual motion is one of those. Find any serious physics website or text and you can read why this is the case.
It is well worth nothing that not a single degree educated physicist is working on developing perpetual motion. If there was the slightest chance it was possible, then educated physicists would be chasing it.
There must be thousands of videos demonstrating perpetual motion on CZcams now. But as I mentioned, any physicist or physics textbook will tell you it is categorically impossible. They're not being pessimistic or 'closed minded'. The videos are all simple fakes to get hits to make dollars.
The idea that the ping pong ball makes one hemisphere heavier is nonsense. Reading about buoyancy and displacement will help you understand why. I suppose a ping pong ball was chosen because it is very, very light. You can almost convince yourself that it's too light to affect the distribution of the water in the sphere at all.....but, it does weigh a little so it must make one hemisphere just a tiny bit heavier....and that's how it works. Well, no. It's a fallacy. It doesn't matter whether it's really light or really heavy - whatever it weighs it displaces that weight of water: both hemispheres become a tiny bit heavier (one due to the ball, the other due to the displaced water caused by the ball). Whatever weight the ball is, the sphere must remain balanced.
So remember - when watching Perpetual Motion videos *they are all fake*. No debate.
fluchter1996 As long as there are idiots around to believe them , these kinds of scammers will keep making money :)) STupidity has no limits ,and some parasites make use of it ,
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i love how you can here something in the background out of takt but clearly it propells sphere
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Cool model!
So it's supposed to work because the mass in one hemisphere is greater than on the other, meaning gravity will act with greater force on that hemisphere and cause rotation.
And the reasons it doesn't actually work are: 1. Because that alleged extra mass isn't mechanically attached to the sphere itself and doesn't have enough friction to rotate the sphere without extreme velocity. And more importantly, 2. Because the mass in each hemisphere is actually the same. It seems like the mass in the right hemisphere ought to be greater, because it has that solid piece of material with the float. But the float is displacing some of the water to remain buoyant. The amount of water that is displaced to the left hemisphere exactly equals the total mass of the arm and float that lie in the right hemisphere (the mass supported by the float). So, neglecting any small defects in the shape of the outer sphere and the central rod, the sphere is perfectly balanced. Put it down on the floor. It won't roll without a push.
The bit of explanation at 2:52 helped. Could have come earlier so viewers knew what was trying to be accomplished. But still, cool video.
Did you recreate the model yourself?
Your reasons for why it doesn't work are not correct.
What is supposed to happen is that the ball displaces a larger mass of water than the mass of the ball and the rod that supports it (according to the archimedes' principle). That way, there will always be more mass on the left hemisphere. In a friction-less environment, this concept should work perpetually (which is why it was conceived in the first place).
The problems with this model is that the rod seems to be too hefty for that condition to be met (but maybe it isn't, I didn't measure it). But, apart from that, the sphere shouldn't be perfectly balanced. If put on the floor, it should rest at an angled position, accordingly to the mass dislodged.
And, of course, It does not work perpetually because there's friction, mainly in the movement of the water (any movement of a fluid generates heat due to molecular collision), but also on the axis and bearings that support the sphere. But the concept is mechanically sound and should work in an universe devoid of thermodynamics.
Any wheel would turn perpetually in frictionless environment, that's not the point.
I mean, it would perpetually generate momentum, as most Perpetual Motion Machines are supposed to. Didn't word it correctly, my bad.
The batteries in the base underneath have been depleted.
This is not a perpetual motion machine. What it is, is a device that continues going pretty much the effortlessly. So with little constant or periodic input you could generate a constant flux of energy.
I would like to test it.
all his videos are fake. he uses motors
+UnderDog yeah notice the fact that it doesn't work *cuts and then it works, and we never see the back, the reason being he stops the footage, installs the motor, then continues
So not only are we breaking the laws of physics, but also the laws of fluid dynamics. If this were possible, the minute the liquid was poured in the basin with the ball, it would have started rotating violently until it spilled all over the table. Nice camera angle though. Very imaginative.
It amazes me that people get so mad over this. I watch it and say, ok, meh, whatever. No need to headbutt a wall lol
how did you get the water blue....amazing
This seems to be the only interesting thing in this whole fake :/
Why do people feel the need to comment on videos of perpetual motion machines saying how it's fake when everyone already knows
Because some people still believe this could work. I'm sad we have to break people's dreams, but this is a collective duty to dislike and comment...
except, this isn't that type of video, smarty. the whole point of this video is to illustrate how they were supposed to work in the inventor's mind. disliking a video because you are too lazy, ignorant and stupid to take a look at the the description is not cool, man.
People who don't know any better inevitably end up wasting tons of their time and energy chasing perpetual energy dreams "like the guy on CZcams successfully did".
I just love how many people are trying to be smart-asses and trying to show or prove how the trick works or even getting upset instead of showing and explaining how it wouldn't work.
This, like I said in another post, is meant to make the person discover and learn the "why"s and the "Why not"s.
Love your videos, keep doing more.
this is real, 10th grade science project
Why would you want to make something like this? It's not going to deceive anyone worth deceiving. And it's nothing to do with Archimedes either. 0/10
All perpetual motion devices have one thing in common and that's a well hidden battery
Thank you for wasting the resources of perpetual motion believers. You are doing a service to all of humankind.
Nice machine! What are you using as an energy source?
Perpetual motion machines are the art of engineering. That is to say, without purpose but very pleasing to look at.
Nonzense
@@nnoo what?
@@vriskaserket8058 without purpose you say, that's retarded
@@nnoo they dont have a material purpose other than aesthetic appeal.
refer to first comment, 6 years later have you not discovered anything incredible? impossible is just poor theory, at the very least this category of invention always displays the principle of free energy that is harmony, through that much all is truly possible, much more than any one might imagine. Cryptoalchemist brought me here
This guy made a lot of videos with one simple motor, that's dedication to the battery market right there!
Keep going, dude! Who knows what might come from your experiments :)
I did the same thing once, only the hamster was inside the bowl :D
чушь и подстава. С какой стати "вес одной полусферы больше другой"? если бы так было, то уровень воды пришел бы в движение, как у сообщающихся сосудов и опять же пришел бы в равновесие. Никакого "постоянного перевеса" не может быть. В здравом уме даже представить трудно такое. Даже физиком не надо быть.
А передача вращения от жидкости - сфере вообще выглядит шизофренически.
Quoted from his website: "My Perpetual Motion Machines models are of *motorized versions* that were built to illustrate how they were supposed to work in the minds of Inventors."
I can't tell if he's advocating for the scientific study of perpetual motion devices, or if he just enjoys the practice of making motorized models of them for the hell of it. He seems to acknowledge that the Law of Conservation of Energy is scientifically valid yet he has a quote asking people to remain open minded to ideas that haven't shown scientific validity. Very, very odd.
This looks like a neat little project, what are the pieces used to make it?
at 2:02 the video cuts... i find it more reliable when it plays through.
Conspicuously thick base AND upright support. Watch as he slides on the two bushings, and makes sure that the right/front bushing fits tightly over the bolt. If you listen closely to the sound and watch the rotation, you can see that the noise is not consistent with a point on the bowl. Now imagine a loop of string inside the stand connecting two pulleys - one in the fork of the stand, and one on a motor in the base. As you listen, imagine a knot on that string going around the two pulleys... Busted!
this is a CONCEPT. this channel shows CONCEPTS about perpetual motion machines.
there are no working man made perpetual motion machines - this is just clickbait
No, it is not clickbait. The thumbnail gives no suggestion that it is a perpetual motion attempt. Neither does the title, unless you know what the idea of an "Archimedes Sphere" is already; I, for one, did not. Granted, perpetual motion is still impossible no matter what anyone attempts with it.
Clickbait - the channel is dedicated to the topic of perpetual motions; the videos I have watched all explain how the machines are supposed to work - and some show them "apparently" working - where the channel falls short is explaining why none of them work. The only "perpetual" motion machines that do work here on Earth rely on an outside source of energy, or tidal forces, which means that "perpetual" in those instances is only as long as the sun lasts. So yes, Clickbait, not Education.
CDArena its educational not in what the videos teach you, but in the conversations that follow in the comments. these videos are made to make you think. its a simple concept. its to make you think for yourself. that is all
TLDR on website in info: "Perpetual motion, the action of a device that, once set in motion, would continue in motion forever, with no additional energy required to maintain it. Such devices are impossible on grounds stated by the first and second laws of thermodynamics."
Further reading: "My Perpetual Motion Machines models are of motorized versions that were built to illustrate how they were supposed to work in the minds of Inventors".
Looking at the like/dislike ratio I have to make the assumption that a lot of people did not read the non local description of the video and just passed their judgement based on the validity of claims they themselves imagined about what was shown. veproject1 could have avoided some of this by including a TLDR in the information pane but also thousands of people probably jumped to conclusions unless I am just jumping to that conclusion. My two cents anyway, have a nice day whoever reads this. Nice model too! =)
I usually skip the adds but not that one for Glowforge! What a cool thing!!
Why is that base so thick? I think there's something hidden in it that makes this thing work.
I've never understood why people make videos without talking/explaining. If you have sound hooked up, say what you're doing. Talking isn't that hard.
cause then you'll here the motors 😂😂
+HowTo:EVERYTHING yup
and you actually CAN hear it in this one.
+Joe Prince The mic is on, if you turn up your volume, you can hear the thing rotating
+Clinterpottrmus™ what makes this even more upsetting that you can hear the motor is that he tried to hide the sound by adjusting the audio. listen to the difference in sound - before he uses a motor there is a normal quality of sound; but when he uses the motor, the audio sounds as if it's being projected into a pool and you're in it. There's a setting for that, I think it's called "deep"? lol
I don't see how this one was ever even plausible even to people who believe in perpetual motion.
pretty cool vp1. well done
I am seeing a new science merge before my eyes, something like 'vortex differential', ignore this comment I go sleep now and obey.
d74g0n few are aware of asymmetry and he fractal vortex geometries of nature, baaa im going to lay in my hay stack over here.
ikr prolly why we built the pyramids! *puts on aluminium deflector beanie.*
d74g0n
Please, this is just old, antiquated technology! Humans have known about perpetual motion ever since the aliens came and showed it to us in 57 B.C.! The new wave of the future is /quantum consciousness/ and /Em-Drives/!
Invisible motor is invisible.
L'esperienza è chiara. Il signore voleva dimostrare l'impossibilità di questo movimento perpetuo tra 2'00'' e 2'01''. La rotazione è rallentata dall'attrito del liquido contro le pareti del contenitore (sfera) e quelle dei cuscinetti bianchi sull'asse orizzontale. L'illusione della continuità della rotazione è dovuta al looping di questa stessa sequenza video di un secondo implicata dallo stesso rumore ripetitivo. Non c'è altro artificio o motore nascosto. Grazie per lo sperimentatore che non ha nascosto nulla. L'esperienza è chiara e netta.
Is this can be use as a blender ? The liquid can change to cream type or only for liquid ?
I can't even work out how this is supposed to be working. Just because there is always more weight on one side of the sphere isn't going to cause any kind of friction to make the globe turn. The weight is free spinning on that axle so that's not creating any torque. WTF?
+PsyMongazoid
motor in the base
Archimedes says 'bullshit".
oh gosh.. let me make sure this page never ends up in my suggestions again. x'D
I'm so thankful that we didn't have to see Waldo screw all those screws in.
I love how at 2:01 the video is edited while you added some kind of drive motor to it hahaha FAIL!
have you build a power station?
he was going to but he couldn’t find batteries big enough to run it
How does he do these tricks?
*****
i think your last word answered your own question, the best of these devices are designs that are several hundred years old and still have no pactical application, you will notice several editing marks in the video and nobody ever posts a video of said perpetual motion devices more than a few minutes long for a reason. the absolute most ingenious and successfull attempt is kept in a locked vault, was made by an artist and he freely admits his invention is not perpetual but is extremely efficient and also completely useless.
I thought he used little motors. But I saw the magnet powered car, and I don't know how does he do it.
All perpetual motion machines require a thick sturdy base in order to work.
Like when your girl rides me cowgirl style she is perpetually gyrating on a thick sturdy base I have erected for her to contain.
Wow, you harnessed the power of buoyancy and gravity.
Riveting.
Eureka! - is why this doesn't work...
Those of you who understand the link between the sphere and the first word of my comment - congratulations you (like me) are a nerd.
Those of you who are completely baffled by the entire contents of this comment - I hear McDonald's are hiring. Also search "9/11 conspiracy" it will blow your mind.
The words pseudo-intellectual come to me when i see your comment.
From time to time I believe we all suffer from a spot of pseudo-intellectualism-ism. However on this occasion Gregory please could you kindly proceed to the conspiracy section.
I understood your original statement, i just think that you shouldn't make fun of people because they don't understand physics. They most likely put their time into other things like sports and business. Things that will most likely earn you more money than doing a science degree :L
To be honest I always thought the discovery of water displacement was common knowledge? Certainly not something you would learn at university.
Again, not everyone listens in science class. They will put their time into other things. Stop acting so superior dude.
Anybody else hear the motor?
Me
+Jack Jebediah No that's the sound of perpetual motion.
yeah I heard it
+Jack Jebediah it isnt meant to be hidden, read desc
+Anton Helsgaun ... What? You read it mate, there's just a website.
At first I gave this a thumbs down, only because I knew it is fake. Then after I had thought about it they never claimed it was. This video is simply an example of what the device looks like and how it would work. If you click the link in the description it goes to their site which explains why these machines don't work, and a lot of examples. I say great job on giving us a visual example of Archimedes Sphere. It may not be real but the title wasn't misleading. Its exactly what we came here to see. If you came here thinking someone figured it out, Reidar Finsrud's "Moving Sculpture" is about as close as we have got so far with 80% to 99% efficiency. It only counts if its greater then 100%.
2.4 million views for a visualization and site traffic without any click bait. Way to CZcams man.
I get the idea of the perpetual motion machines: Use lever tricks to unbalance some kind of rotation device so you use gravity as the energy source. The issue is that we've never had a system that managed to completely counter friction, hence the many projects of perpetual motion make for very cool toys and school projects.
If you want "free" energy then I suggest investing into solar, wind or geothermal power generation. These are setups that will provide energy without considerable further costs. They're rather expensive but will work for as long as you build them in the proper location.
What's all the fuss about? Look at 1:59 - 2:02 - that's exactly what will happen to this machine in reality. All the guy did was pause the video, add a motor to the machine on the other side and then fooled a lot of idiots who didn't notice the frame skip :/
Also people have to remember that even if someone made a friction-less bearing and spun the machine in a frictionless vacuum, the amount of energy required to get the machine started is the exact same amount of energy the machine will use to keep spinning. It can't be used to make any MORE energy than what it already has.
What is the supposed method of operation? Of course it doesn't work in reality, but how is it supposed to work?
Funny, you think it does not work, when you do not know the theory... It is supposing that the weight hanging from the bobber (on the one side of the sphere) makes there be more weight on that side than the side without the bobber. It is imagined (like with most perpetual motion machines) that more weight or force being on one side, magically causes the object to turn in that direction forever. But if you put three people on one side of a board, and one on the other, it does not mean the three will fall and the one will rise. The three may rise and the one fall (unlike implied by so many perpetual motionists), if the three are closer to the center of the board, than the one. In addition, it is continually ignored (by perpetual motionists) that energy is only transferred by power (force times speed), and they imagine that force alone actually represents energy. The fact that the bobber does not have any net downward movement between the beginning and end of the video, shows that despite the force which was present, the bobber did not release any potential energy from it's weight. Potential energy = mass x height, so potential energy released = mass x height lost. There is no reason for this model to work, but it is just imagined that somehow "magically", adding weight to one side will make it gain (or maintain) energy rotating in that direction. Which is very daft and false. You will probably see that almost all perpetual motion machines are the same. They say that there is more weight or force on one side, so it must keep turning that direction forever! But why?!!! Force does not change the energy unless the force is provided with net (uncancelled) motion, which is impossible within anything that has finite dimensions.
Legion Long what about property of liquids,temp of liquid and mechanical kinetic energy setting off the gravity setting off the whole water displacement?
I would be glad to answer any questions you have, but I am not sure that I can decipher what you mean, in that last question. Can you explain your question more clearly? Running on what I can, from what you asked: If all outside energy sources are neglected (as is requisite for a perpetual motion machine), the properties of the fluid cannot affect the net energy of the volume within the sphere, except negatively (by radiating energy away from the sphere). The temperature of the fluid (in this case a liquid), is representative of entropic motion within the fluid. The temperature can (by some advanced processes, not present in the video above) be partially converted into usable energy. Obviously the heat could be used as a temporary "battery" for the sphere, giving it kinetic energy (until the heat depleted). But not in the device shown in the video above. In the video above, the sphere's rotation increases entropic motion (raising the liquid temperature), and decreasing the kinetic energy of the sphere (slowing it down). There is no net kinetic energy present in (or for) the sphere, until it is given outside energy from the persons hand. That kinetic energy will deplete, as a result of friction. The friction in the liquid (viscous friction) will convert the kinetic energy into heat (which in reality, will radiate away from the sphere, and be lost). As for mechanical energy, the mechanical energy is a constant (within the sphere), unless energy is supplied to the sphere, or released from the sphere. If you are referring to the fact that the water moves, as a result of the rotation, it is worth noting that the bulk of the water moves toward the rising side of the sphere, not toward the falling side of the sphere. Basically, while the sphere is rotating, the friction within the water, causes more water weight to be hung on the rising side, so that the rising side has a net resistance acting against it. This only slows down the sphere. The weight swinging about, has no significant net affect on the energy of the sphere (except causing a little kinetic energy to become thermal energy). A swinging pendulum never releases more energy than was used to start it swinging, and it was started swinging by the persons hand (even if indirectly), so it can only release less energy than was given to the sphere by the hand. And the swinging "pendulum" will release mostly heat, not isotropic motion. The basic end result is, the sphere stops spinning, and it is a little bit warmer than when it started (except eventually, it's excess heat will radiate away, leaving it normal temperature, and stationary).
Legion long-oh okay understand, whole thing basically shuts down,even the heat isn't used as energy source (unless heat source like a candle or something) which still isn't sufficient. hmm.... yeah I took earth sciences not chemistry & physics though I like all science..how it all works and stuff. Thankyou and stay awesome=)
Alright, glad you understood, and your welcome. Always good to learn something new.
The amount of people, that don't understand the difference between a Perpetual Motion machine, and a Practical Perpetual Motion Machine, scares me, Perpetual Motion is possible, you just won't get anything from it besides the discovery itself.
There will always be energy lost to heat. The fluid resistance against the bobber results in heat which is either conducted or radiated into the atmosphere.
I think some people might not understand what 'perpetual motion' means. All objects are in motion for perpetuity, the question is whether you can get energy out of nowhere. In this case the sphere is supposedly always heavier on one side because of the float, which ignores the fact that the float also displaces its submerged volume of water. By Archimedes' principle this hypothetical volume of water would have the same weight as the float. Both effects cancel out exactly.
What's with the jump cut on 2:03?
That's where he connects the drive mechanism at the back so it looks real ;)
SirChickenMacNugget Yeah, if he took some care it would be easy to edit so no one ever noticed it.
Yeah, that is why earth rotate. because there are more heavy ships on one ocean than another. !!!! Same sense!!!! No?
+ana madelin Diaz sure you are right!
+ana madelin Diaz what the hell?
Idiot...
+ana madelin Diaz Yeah, the world used to turn a lot faster too. Back when ships had sails they would catch the wind and that was added to the weight.
Ya know, Dheeraj S, and Vince Beltran, some languages have a certain punctuation mark Ethiopic languages have a temherte slaq, percontation point proposed by English printer Henry Denham in the 1580s, and the irony mark, used by Marcellin Jobard during the 19th century. I have a MODEST PROPOSAL, we should bring it back.
+veproject1 Where do I get one. just like the one in the vid? i am on the grid so no problem recharging batteries.
I understand this is fake, but still looks cool seeing what these would look like if perpetual motion happened. good job ☺
same really cool contraptions
I'm not a particularly smart person, but perpetual motion devices have never fooled me. I don't understand how people fall for this stuff.
People don't seem to realize that this person isn't trying to fool anyone, but bring old sketches and ideas of perpetual motion devices to life... If this person didn't make it so they "worked" a lot of the magic and fun of designing and displaying these devices would be lost.
it never stops?
only stops when you need to change the battery.
Lenny F
There is no battery :-)
hans kanns OH really, but I don’t see a power cord!
Lenny F
Why should there a power Cord or a battery?
hans kanns Beats me, I’m totally fuckin’ stumped.
The best part about all these videos with perpetual motion machines is that those who are interested enough to watch them know why they wont work.
That’s an interesting perpetual motion machine there. The matter inside isn’t moving much and it’s only moving a little due to the friction of the spinning fish bowl.
WHY DONT POWER COMPANIES MAKE GIANT VERSIONS OF PERPETUAL MACHINES TO GENERATE ELECTRICITY IM SO ANGRY
the friction causes it to slow down so therefore, unless someone invented a friction-less ball bearing, then it is impossible. the friction makes heat with is a COMPLETE loss of energy. heat cant be contained and used as energy whatsoever
ManlyDude people only think they've made PM machines because they've made machines that run for a long time there not PM machiens
ManlyDude How about using quantum flux pinning in a vacuum. Google it.
Because illuminati and grey aliens will never approve such machines
yes illuminati and grey aliens frown upon such things
OK let's see whats under the box, maybe a battery and electro magnet. STOP wasting peoples time with another con.
visit the website link in description
Pay no attention to the electric motor under the box.
I always wondered, where people get this kind of materials :P where can i get those spheres for example? :)
im not gonna lie, I keep coming back to watch this video because the audio is so fuckin therapeutic, its like ASMR lol
How dare you use Archimedes' name in this unscientific bullcrap?
If the right side were really "heavier", you wouldn't need to give it a push for it to start rotating.
Dear comments, this was never claimed as a free energy device. it is simply there to look cool.
***** What do you think perpetual motion means?
awes0meguy13
Please show me where it says perpetual motion?
***** 0:03
awes0meguy13
Ah. well then I am corrected
***** I know it isn't actually a perpetual energy machine. I was just saying that it was claimed to be.
Nicely edited looks very natural.
may i ask why the water look blue color ? did u apply higher speed to see results
For the ones saying this is "fake" you're not wrong. On his website he states, under the "IMPORTANT" sub heading, that these are all "motorized" models based on previous inventions. BUT I believe the purpose of these videos are to CONVINCE someone that it CAN work, so that they themselves can figure it out how perpetual motion IS possible. Cause we gotta think. The EARTH spins CONTINUOUSLY, and it dont run on AA batteries now does it. The point is, don't LIMIT yourselves, for it is written that ALL things are possible with Jehovah (God). Not to get all preachy, and if u think this is preachy. I haven't even started yet lol. If planets can spin continuously then why can't we make maschines that do that same?
machines*
because we cant control gravity....
+ItsaMystery101 Maybe we just need a "push and pull"
yh maybe
+ItsaMystery101 the earth spins continuously cause there's no friction or Gravity in space. So uh yeah
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The word "Bollocks" springs to mind...the words "electromagnet in the conspicuously large box underneath" also springs to mind!
Thought this was just supposed to be some kind of demonstration about I don't know density of objects or something, then I saw the text at the end and almost died I laughed so hard XD