Sexual assault myths: Part 2 | FACTUAL FEMINIST
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- The United States is not a rape culture, but it is a gender propaganda culture. We are overwhelmed by false information about men and women, and nowhere is this more true than in the area of sexual violence. A new Bureau of Justice Statistics study has the latest numbers, and the Factual Feminist does some fact checking.
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As I said last week, the United States does is not a rape culture, but it is a gender propaganda culture. We are overwhelmed by false information about men and women, and nowhere is this more true than in the area of sexual violence. So let’s do some fact checking. That’s next on the Factual Feminist.
We often hear that “female students are at greater risk of rape than their non-college peers." But this is just not true. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, females enrolled in college experience lower rates of rape and sexual assault than their non-college piers. Senator Gillibrand, and others who repeat this canard, they have to stop.
“If you are a young woman who attends college today, you are more likely to be sexually assaulted than those who don’t.”
Now where does the claim come from? The original source appears to be a 2000 study by Bonnie Fischer and her associates. Well a reporter at the Chronicle of Higher Education recently contacted Fisher to ask what data she used to justify her claim that female college students are most at risk. Well according to the reporter, Fisher could not answer. She was confused. Later, she responded: "That was probably the current state of knowledge or belief at that time, given the research available.” But the data were no different in 2000, and they were available. In a recent New York Times op-ed, University of Colorado Denver researcher Callie Marie Rennison pointed out that our fixation on relatively privileged college women has distracted us from the far greater vulnerability of poor and less educated women. Rennison found, for example, that “Women without a high school diploma are sexually victimized at a rate 53 percent greater than women with a high school diploma or some college.” Poor women are at greater risk but they have been lost in the current panic over sexual assault at places like Yale, or Swarthmore, or the University of Wisconsin.
Let’s consider another damaging myth. Almost every college employee who receives training about campus rapes will learn that campus rapes are committed by 6 percent of males on campus. And these men tend to be ruthless and incorrigible repeat offenders. This is known as the predator theory of college assault and it’s is taken very seriously by university officials, and they use it to justify cutting back on due process and expelling anyone implicated in a campus date rape. Now this is understandable: deans and college presidents don’t want to keep sociopaths around. Now the theory was developed by a researcher, David Lisak, retired from the University of Massachusetts Boston. In 2002 he and a colleague published a study on campus sex offenders, and for the study they analyzed questionnaires distributed to male passersby in a busy pedestrian area at UMass-Boston. According to Lisak, of the nearly nineteen hundred men who returned the survey, one hundred and twenty respondents - about 1 in 16 - admitted to committing acts that met the legal definition of rape or attempted rape. And more than half of this group admitted to raping more than once and they also confessed to a range of other heinous violent crimes. Well in her excellent critique of Lisak’s study, Slate’s Emily Yoffe points out that the participants were hardly typical. I mean most college students are age 18-24. Lisak’s subjects were 18-71. Now UMass Boston is an urban commuter school with no campus housing and a four-year graduation rate of 15 percent. I taught there in the early 1980s. Things may be different today, but at that time most of my students were adults with full-time jobs and more than a few had been in jail.
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The feminist "movement" apparently does ignore the less fortunate women. My feminist friend told me that, and the more I learn about the feminist of today, it's definitely is true that they ignore the real victims and profit off them.
That's what fuels social causes like modern feminism and even the so-called "Social Justice Warriors", is that they can will try to profit from it, while the real issue is ignored and put in the background.
this is so true. college women being more educated and outspoken and knowing how to get legal means are more likely to report crimes of sexual assault than women that are less educated. yet the so-called feminists of western countries are focusing on the college women. why? because these college women are more likely to support their 'movement' with money and vocal support on the intenet. hypocrisy at its best.
Vergil14 lupin123 You're both right, it's a sad thing.
It is all about Cultural Marxism. Don't look at Wikipedia please, they have confirmed edits of the so called "Social Justice Warriors". Look up alternative sources and read into it. Third wave feminists are mostly misandrists and have nothing to do with equality but gaining advantage for whatever their cause is.
lupin123 Plus their parents are more likely to contribute to political campaigns
Anyone who purposefully spreads misinformation about a problem is not trying to solve that problem, there are attempting to profit from it.
Can you please include links to your sources in the description? It'd be so helpful in finding and reading these facts. Thank you!
Hi Dan, her facts come from the US Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, - Special Report, December 2014 - This You Tube 0:34/5.10
You have internet access, why not just look it up lol
And people wonder why traditional dating has plummeted on campus.
i myself was accused of a sexual charge, though i was never accused of assault. on my way to the bathroom (with a teacher's note in my pocket), i found a friend of my sister in distress, so i decided to be nice and be someone she could talk about her problems to and help in anyway that i could. after some time i told her that i needed to use the restroom badly since i have been holding it in for sometime now missing class as well, when i got to the restroom she was still talking to me and stuff and since no one was there at the time she walked into the restroom with me to continue our coversation while did what i needed to do. several days later i get called into the dean's office during first period, when i got there they accused me of having sex with her in the restroom, their proof is the video of me walking into the restroom with her. after several hours of illegal interrogation, and missing several of my classes including my lunch, they had the nerve to tell me that "no one will believe you, not even your mother, because you are a boy and she is a girl so just admit it already". now i am a person who is well documented to have emotional disorders, so the entire time was in that room surrounded by school officials from the dean, Principle, Vice Principle, and Student Counselor telling me the same thing over and over, i was in tears and there was no escape. it wasn't until after school that they decided to call my mother to tell her what had happened and about the accusations, at this point i was fully broken and "admitted" to everything because i just wanted to go home. after that i never walked into that school ever again and now i have a hard time even walking onto a college campus to get a college degree and finally better myself.
wow so sorry to hear about this. But I would suggest u try and reinvent yourself, look for others that share your plight. That is the quickest way to get over the trauma
damn, that's terrible. I hope you get better.
What school was it?
Sue the school bro
What did the girl have to say on this
Personally, I think the media are really to blame here.
+Charles Darwin They're not the only problem. The main problem with the media is that the current crop of journalists is too credulous and doesn't know how to check its facts when confronted with an argument to which they are (or have been trained to be ) ideologically sympathetic - or where the potential price of checking the facts and asking hard questions is social ostracism and outright bullying.
Its easy to make money from an article if you bring up something bad, like rape. Then everyone gets to point at it and say, " hWOW, rape IS bad. BURN MEN!" In a perfect world no one will read the news because everything is sunshine and rainbows. If nothing bad happened, newspapers wouldn't make money.
plus mostly feminists read those things so they can say anything to make feminists happy
Woman: I've been raped!
Everyone: We shall avenge your honor!
Woman: No, I lied.
Everyone: Oh thank goodness. We were worried half to death.
THANK YOU! I appreciate the videos. I was never really in the gender differences of anything. ..that is till november last year. 3 months ago I was raped by a female in my college. When I reported it I was given the "rape isn't as bad for dudes" talk. They gave me a business card with a counselors name on it and sent on my way. It was an all female panel, that included the womens studies teacher. To be honest I tried to fool myself that they were right. But as time went on I fely as though I was walking through pea soup. I would sleep all the time, and to this day im obsessed with showering. I couldnt find any resources or official groups to help me because I had the audacity to be raped while having a penis. Mid December I discovered a group of male survivors who met privately. We had just 16 in our group. We now have 26 individual male survivors just from my college. All of whom the college dismissed. I cant tell you how much it means to have people such as yourself strive to get the truth out.from my view in the trenches there are vastly MORE male rape victims than female...but the male victims are dismissed and forced to try and deal on their own....so keep it up, stay the course...you have me and my male survivor groups utmost respect and encouragement.
We need you guys to speak up. Recently a male student from Stanford did. Also contact Families Advocating for Campus Equality. They provide support and advice.
You can't say there are more male rape victims that female. I know male victims are more likely to not get justice but most women still go through sexual violence.
@@zelda7059 According to various scientific studies, men are as likely to experience sexual violence as men.
If anything, your comment reeks of "Sexism" and gender stereotypes.
P.S. Most women do not "get through" sexual violence.
Sexual violence is rare and according to RAINN, we have experienced a whooping 50% decrease in sexual violence over the last decades.
wise words yet again, the media and news need to get this stright
When the truth gets out, money stops coming in.
Preach it, preach!
***** True, that's the whole problem with literally every sensationalist meme she has noted, all these phoney statistics, the idea of ''women biology'' and ''women math'' to combat ''traditional male studies'', it's all about the money, and large institutions jump on the misandry band-wagon because it sells, it's easy to sell hate against men and ''protecting women''...
I can't help but wonder if this trend of disregard for due process and jumping to conclusions without evidence is a reflection of broader socio-cultural trends in that direction. Especially on social media where public opinion almost IS the law of the land.
Another interesting video. One of the more frustrating aspects about the false information being spread is that many people in the general public trust and repeat statistics without seeing any of the fine details. Too many times we come across cases of poor methodology, such as the self-selecting sample mentioned in the video, or cases where statistics are easily misleading without context.
Thank you for making this video. you cant know how much it means to me to see someone set the record straight, and in a calm and reasonable way. thanks so much!
The solution is as easy as 1,2,3.
1) Universities immediately place both accused AND the accuser on temporary suspension, to be lifted as soon as a proper investigation has been conducted.
2) Universities immediately notify authorities of the accusation, initiate the suspension, and step out of the picture!
3) Due process for both accused and accuser. If accused is found guilty, administer appropriate sentence. If accused is found innocent, the innocent party is cleared of charges and the accuser is cross examined at length. If it is determined by a jury that the accuser was simply confused, had the wrong information, and/or was NOT acting maliciously, they are released. If however, the accused is found to have fabricated the charges, then administer an equal sentence to the accuser that the accused would have been handed if they had been found guilty.
If the person guilty of rape is sentenced to 25 years, they serve the time. If the accuser is found guilty of perjury, and the crime they accuse the other party of would have gotten them a 25 year sentence, the lying accuser serves a 25 year sentence!
+samuski36 "If it is determined by a jury that the accuser was simply confused, had the wrong information, and/or was NOT acting maliciously, they are released." I mostly agree with what you said - but the section I quoted I feel undermines everything, there should at least be some sort of community service under those circumstances.
***** after giving it some thought, I think you're right. Some kind of token consequence to prevent inaccurate claims would be in order.
While I agree with the basics here, employing a system that could result in a 25 year prison sentence for the accuser would most likely silence many women from voicing their experience.
samuski36 - Why would the accuser need to be placed on suspension? Think before you speak. This will stop women from coming forward and reporting rape crimes and encourage men to do it more.
I agree don't suspend either of them until a conviction of one or the other is rendered. I feel the same way about police officers don't suspend them til they are convicted of a crime.
Wait women who are, for lack of a better word, privileged enough to go to universities like Yale and Hartford are complaining about risks of sexual assault where as women who lack said privilege are at a higher risk; I think feminist groups need to set their priorities on the group of people who need the help.
Edit: So this thread has been up for awhile and I've read through all of the comments. Just to re-word what I said, a friend of mine had brought up a topic (may not be a hot one right now) about how on a rare occasion, a man is forced into parenting a child they didn't want because the mother decided to keep the baby - and to make things worse sometimes AFTER she had said she would not. I wanted there to be a way to introduce a way for a man to opt out of parenting like that. If both adults agree abortion was not the answer, then they would both have to take care of the child whether they wanted to or not afterwards. If both agreed they would not want a child, then obviously they'd just get an abortion. If the man did not want the child, but the woman does (and this was explained ahead of time) he should have some option to opt out of parenting the child. If the man wanted the child, and the woman did not, she's still have the option to abort anyway because of the pregnancy period. Most of the comments I thought were great and gave good insightful details. I'd come across some saying "well he should be able to opt out whenever." That'd be a problem if the woman was under the impression that they would have a child, and he backed out, leaving her to take care of it. This is why I wanted there to be SOME sort of grace period where the man could opt out during the pregnancy (reasonable time period) maybe within the first tri-mester, so that if she didn't want to take care of a child by herself, she'd have time to abort.
Since this comment was posted I've talked even more with other people (mostly guys) about this issue and thought of a MAYBE good idea. Similar to how you have a "donor" sticker on your license, men could have a similar thing on theirs stating that they would not have to father any children. Most men I assume would get that removed when they're ready adults, but this way they would not be forced into taking care of a child if a woman changes her mind. Now say you had it removed and didn't want to have a child, well, you're out of luck. It's the most hand-holding idea I could think of. Anyway it may sound similar to having nooks and notories in the bedroom, but at least its better than having to take care of an unwanted child for 18 years. Food for thought.
Lastly - don't turn this into an "I think abortion is wrong" argument. This has been argued for years, it's being more acceptable (for a good reason), and it's besides the point.
What would you consider a reasonable time period? I agree with what you're saying the but men in modern society are stigmatized for taking measures that would leave a woman to tend for herself when she's pregnant or after she's given birth.
***** It might sound a little weird... but two different answers. Basically the first would be if there were some type of documentation that shows you both agreed not to conceive a child. Since most people aren't really willing to do that because it might be 'weird,' I'd say within the first trimester. That's within the first few months which is more than enough time. I don't really thing they're stigmatized for it, only if they say they'll be there the whole time. If a man leaves and it's a mutual agreement I see no problem with that. I tend to stay away from people complaining about that problem seeing as most are from tumblr.
I mean if I were a guy that got a girl pregnant and we didn't plan on the child, I wouldn't want to be around that either.
Simply put, while a man should have no say in female reproductive rights, neither should a female have any say in male rights. A woman can opt out of parenthood even after the baby is born, by leaving it at state's door. Men should have the same right, and be free to opt out of fatherhood. In the case of accidental pregnancy, if a man does not want to be father, he should be as liable as a father as any man that deposited in the sperm bank: it's his genetic material, but he is not the father. If he doesn't want the child, he is not due any child support or care ( also known as financial abortion). If a woman still wants the child, she will have to take care of it by herself.
After all, they both have *equal responsibility* to use contraception, and the argument "he should have just kept it in his pants" doesn't fly, as it presumes women have no agency in the matter; moreover, women have more contraceptive options available to them. Further, some women impregnate themselves via used condom using turkey basters or by puncturing it with a needle before intercourse, and the man is still financially bound for the next 18 years.
Great comment, and a very interesting topic. One of the more blatant examples of how cultural sexism doesn't actually benefit men.
Henry Morgan Henry there's a few problems with that. Say they had both mutually agreed to take part in being parents. If the man opts out and changes AFTER the child is conceived. That's where the problem is. Most women wouldn't say "well since he doesn't want it, I don't want to be a single mother, so here you go foster care, another child." I strongly believe there should be an option to opt out for men, but only if they had made it clear that they do not want to have a child, and the woman still agrees to have sex.
I can already see too many cases of there being a child, and a few months later the relationship going downhill, and then someone suddenly wanting to opt out.
You are truly a saint for digging through all of these figures and statistics and reaching their respective sources.
I like her like she has A LOT of good valid points not strung up in emotions and assumption
Good Job
I wouldn't be surprised if lots of the guys who responded to the 'self-report' rape survey were real life trolling.. I can imagine the 'heinous events' some rowdy young guys would come up with to fill in said survey.
I imagine some heinous crimes being, I killed a man for looking at me, I got drunk and punched an entire platoon of female soldiers while high on weed, I watched a leafyishere video, or I did all the drugs then made fun of a woman online.
These videos SHOULD be numbered... so we don't miss a single one.
Miss (Mrs.?) Sommers, you are one of the only mainstream feminists I respect. Not because of any arbitrary reason, but because almost all other mainstream feminists today are these psycho radfems like Anita sarkeesian and Rebecca Watson. You take a look at the truth of matters, rather than assume "patriarchy" or some other such crap. Keep doing what you do, and I'll keep enjoying your content.
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Is there a way to move your next/last episode overlap things in your videos? their placement makes it hard to X out of them. The next video one has the X right on your American Enterprise Institute link so I can't exit it off without some actual effort, and as an American, I find having to put effort in to get the wanted results offensive.
Keep these coming, I just wish truth was more popular
FF, are you familiar with the "Not Anymore" campaign that's being adopted as part of a code of conduct pledge at various universities? I'm curious is you've had a chance to examine it or fact check it, because when I took it, one of the questions you had to get right to pass the "training" seems based one the predatory offender theory that you bring up in this video. Thanks in advance.
"Avalanche of misinformation"... truth!
Hey can you talk about intersectionality? thanks!
Definitely my favorite feminist on CZcams her arguments are so clear and well presented she's a breath of fresh air :D
thank you very much for your lovely information. I know it very well that some of the rape cases are not being judged properly. You cannot just take a word as an evidence.
I know it from first hand. I am a (female) psychologist who worked as a counselor and as a member in forensic team. About four in 10 girls admitted to me privately that they had fabricated the story, or were unaware that their definition of sexual assault is not the same as the legal ones. ⛔They often say feminists say sexual assault is anything that they may subjectively perceive as such. This is true. Feminists are driven by a rage to accuse men and punish men. They come up with figures like 75% of women are sexually assaulted. I wonder why they don't say 100% , as we all have experienced at least once an uncomfortable comment, staring, compliment, flirt etc. That would make 100% of women and 100% of men. In my opinion the propagation of such broad and subjective definitions should be discouraged, otherwise all the resources of the law enforcement systems are depleted.
I wish my social science professors were more like you.
As someone who works in the field of science it appears that the language of evidence ends pretty much outside of the petri dish or test tube.
Science itself has become politicised to such an extent that marketing, money making and networking have trumped the truth.
This then allows groups with loud voices to garner support for their causes irrespective of the veracity of their causes.
There needs to be some kind of accountability for professionals like politicians, teachers, administrators and perhaps even reporters who propagate these canards.
We may also have to clarify the term "sexually victimized" to include the sexual responsibility of BOTH parties. If women are wanting to reach for true equality (and no reason why they shouldn't) we need to abandon this tired old myth that women are too stupid and emotional to understand just what is going on in a sexual encounter; and too weak to just say no and walk away. Or so foolish that they would rush into a sex encounter with a total stranger before knowing just what kind of person they are becoming intimate with.
Women have most of the power at the onset of a sexual encounter. If they say no and you proceed it's a crime that will put you in prison for years. And with this very great power comes . . . next to no responsibility??? There are already ample cases where equally-drunk have sex the woman later regrets. The drunk man is found totally responsible and the drunk woman totally blameless.
This is not equality -- Feminism (the equality movement) approves; perhaps even cheers and applauds.
Thank you for speaking the truth!!
reminding us all to check the methodology before quoting the stats!
I'm tired of college girls undressing me with their eyes.
This is the feminism I love. Supporting women and also supporting men. It's about equality between the genders and looking at the facts of things.
Any information on sexual assault in the military?
why aren't science studies financed by Patreon or kickstarter? I would pay for someone's work, if the described methodology seems fair and correct.
The problem with this topic that there are very few good quality studies.
For the first time this is coming form a woman great thankyou
I missed you Christina! Don't leave us hanging again! ;)
There needs to be a lot more discussion about the differences between men and women in terms of their mentality, drives and motivations. This does NOT have to be based on Victorian values, old wives tales, etc, but can be grounded in the evidence that good modern empirical studies provide.
Because we can't talk honestly to youngsters about adulthood they have to find out the truth for themselves, and often get hurt in the process. They make mistakes because they don't know better, and they don't know better because the people who are supposed to guide them tell them fairy stories instead.
Young people are fed a distinctly feminist-influenced narrative because few people dare to openly oppose it. Unfortunately, feminists are wrong about men, wrong about women, wrong about sex, wrong about society and wrong about culture. Armed with these wrong accounts about themselves and each other, young people can easily screw-up. Because adults have set them up for this, they are mostly to blame.
I applaud you, CHS, for trying to spread the truth in this waste-ridden movement.
First, why is it Christina Sommers is comparing the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) of 2013 to Fischer's study in 2000, when the Campus Sexual Assault (CSA) Study in 2006 by Krebs et. al., also regarding campus sexual assault and offering disconfirming evidence, is both more recent and relevant? Second, why does she submit the statistics of the NCVS but fail to include the statistics or methods of Fischer's (albeit outdated) study? Instead, she shows a pink journal? Third, did anyone here read how the NCVS, the survey being praised here, asked its questions? Or to whom the survey was offered? Because people's responses to questions vary greatly depending on how the question is asked, and who is being asked.
While neither study is perfect, here's some light reading to compare the two suggesting four areas where the NCVS is inadequate in preventing false- and under-reported sexual assault:
www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/12/16/1-in-5-data-and-the-debate-about-campus-rape
or
www.themarshallproject.org/2014/12/11/the-dueling-data-on-campus-rape
One in 52.6 isn't at all surprising given the NCVS's inadequacy in methodology in controlling for confounding variables. While 1 in 5 itself is staggering, we shouldn't dismiss supporting evidence simply because a five minute video blog spends five seconds telling us the content of outdated research and 25 seconds telling us how a reporter failed to get an interview with the researcher. If convenience is sufficient cause that 'Factual Feminist' would have us discredit and cherry-pick research, it only serves to prove its own point that today's society is propaganda saturated.
For your convenience:
www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/221153.pdf
I knew this seemed fishy at least from the fact I know so many ppl this has affect while living on campus….
schools. The Bureau of Justice Statistics numbers are culled from its much larger survey - 90,000 households and 160,000 individuals participated in the National Crime Victimization Survey - regarding reported and unreported crime. The Bureau's method also counts a student who lives on campus the same way it counts a student who lives at home and perhaps takes classes online.
This right here is why the number is so low…. The comments here are ridiculous about keeping both victim and perp suspended…. So thanks for this ❤
Yeah, I've got one for you. Is there any reliable data on sexual violence, on the actual ratio of sexual violence or inappropriate relationships (student/teacher) with men or women being the perpetrator? Why? I read a report once that in female or male teachers are about as likely to have an affair with a minor student. Only that for the boys there is hardly any supportive network, and they will not be believed. Not in their peer group, not by the law, not by caregivers. So they don't show up in the statistics.
And people are questioning why more and more guys stay single or turn to other man for a life companion -_-
Where does the claim come from according to which people who watch images of "sexualized" women on TV, in video games and so on are more accepting of rape? I know, it sounds exactly like one of those radfem canards we are all too used to, but it would be interesting to know what study it is based on and whether that study really suggests what feminists say it does.
We can tell young men to be more vigilant when in college. Better yet, avoid women altogether in such situations. They will save themselves an infinite amount of trouble. What is a man left to do at this point?
Doesn't help if the girl changes her mind after the fact- some feminists teach that regret means it was rape. Crazy.
Cynthia Garrett All the more reason to avoid 'em.
DoomRulz Doom, the second sentence in your original post should have ended at the word altogether. Then I agree.
Fierce Phoenix well nothing spells doom for a species like the genders avoiding eachother -_- you mgtow people are as batshit as you feminazi no men forever counterparts
Jared Traxel Well Jared, if my decision to walk away from marriage does indeed spell doom for the human species, perhaps we should have thought about that BEFORE treating young men so poorly. Your argument, and arguments like it appears to amount to, 'But society desperately needs you to be its toilet.' No it doesn't, and even if it does, sorry society, looks like you weren't meant to last anyway. The flaw in your argument is that you appear to be using the all-or-nothing fallacy. How can a movement of around maybe 20,000 worldwide doom a species of 7 billion people? And even if the idea spreads like wildfire, women wouldn't change, adapt, or grow as a result? MGTOW is like feminism? Oh you mean that movement that has been wiping the floor with men for the last half-century? Exactly how crucial is it that we not look like one of the most successful social movements in all of recorded history? A note on that shaming language, it doesn't work anymore. Women and feminists have over-used it, and for it to be effective in the first place one of the options has to involve a positive outcome. If society is a chess game, MGTOW is what you would call a force move, a move designed to make the other party react instead of continuing to carry out their strategy. If that bothers you, I have a Shakespeare quote for you, 'By my heel, I care not'
How about the myth that only 2-10% of rapists will ever spend a day in jail? I regard that as particularly harmful as it probably stops some rape victims from coming forward (why would you put yourself through all that if you're only going to have a tiny chance of getting justice at the end?).
Can you source that? I saw that statistic on a picture that also said something like 60% of rapes are not reported
Brennan Duffy For some the people who apparently know this have yet to use their psychic powers to win the lottery.
Great quality videos. I think I am going to be a factual feminist.
Sounds like we need to teach more people statistics.
I was just going to say something but Rennison got to me it first. it seems highly suspicious.
A study by the national justice institute (NJI) in 1996, shows that DNA can exclude 25 percent of accused or sentenced men in rape cases, they took a sample of 10,360 cases. Other studies have confirmed the results with only one percentage point difference between their results and the NJI result. So the main problem is false convictions, no false accusations. Having said that, in regard to false accusations the 1994 Kanin study and an air force sponsor study found the up to 41% of rape accusation to be false. This is the most extensive study in this matter, they choose two police departments int the Midwest of the US, with a policy to investigate any rape accusation regardless of the merits, and submitted the accuser to a polygraph test. The Kanin study found the main two reason a woman lies about being rape are:
-To have an alibi (real concerning).
-Revenge.
Professor Kanin explicitly state that the results can't be extrapolate to the general public because of two factors: His sample side size wasn't big enough and not all police departments have a mandatory investigation of rape accusations, at least no back then. My main concerned is the due process is disappearing in campus rape cases, in some case the expelled student have being clear of accusation by the police. The accused don't have his identity protected, not even when is a minor, exposing him to vigilante justice. a 17 year old boy in England was beaten to death by an adult man after being clear of a rape accusation. Also police used the term "unfounded" in a very different cases. for example:
-False accusation (some time there is evidence the shows that the woman fabricated the accusation)
-No evidence or strong evidence of rape, the rape may have occurred but there is no evidence to prosecute (that is a real unfortunately case for a genuine survivor).
-the main suspect is clear by DNA testing.
The erosion of due process in campus rape cases is denying innocent men their rights to an education, according to NJI is around 25% or one in every for four cases. Also false rape accuser don't get punished for abusing a system put in place to protect genuine survivor. As an anecdotal fact, the woman involved in the Duke lacrosse team rape case later was accused herself of murder.
To do it right, you should get the same social-economic group and separate it in students and nonstudents. That way you would not mix many social factors and would not fuck up all the statistic you want to see
Thank you for being the Factual Feminist. :) You inspire me to see Feminism as what it was meant to be.
The second of these statistics may be of some interest, I must say - depending on further quality, and provided it is used with proper caution.
Yes, wrong age group. Doesn't say much of campus, especially of campus today. May also well include serious numbers of people who committed no crime - moral understandings change in 50 years. may have some further weaknesses.
But do those factors significantly affect the most interesting portion regarding "repeat offenders"? Indeed, if instead of 6% it were 2% of men, would it not be 3x as much repetition by that same 2% (assuming the same # of victims)?
As for schools using that to justify seriously penalizing men on a mere accusation: there is this tiny thing called human rights. I would respectfully suggest dragging those who institutionalize human rights violations in your countries, to whatever court you can find that still has any credibility. The Hague might be the best option...
No, I don't quite see how the above research allows schools to violate human rights. Maybe it's because I haven't studied law, but I doubt that. And when this regards the people in charge of educating the next generation, that doesn't seem like a very good idea...
Until then, just start beating them up with title IX. Might not like it, but equal application is often the best way to show when something's abused. Might take a few pounds of flesh though...
We are trying and it is extremely difficult to fight. Especially when our president and his administration have swallowed the BS. Read Emily Yoffe's article in Slate.com- "The College Rape Overcorrection."
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But it's an obvious uphill battle. It's male nature to want to protect particularly women, and female nature to rely on that. And politicians' nature to do whatever makes them popular (and lines their pockets)
Judges should thus be the most likely way to get something done. If the Separation of Powers really worked, there'd be some hope there...
I think I hate bullshit, but I'm really not sure what to do about it. It seems panic over an uncomfortable subject is always more important than finding effective solutions. I suppose discussion of taboo subjects is a good idea, but I suspect hetero white guys like me can't have those discussions as we're seen (perhaps sometimes rightly) as the enemy.
My advice for young men entering college is: Do not become closely involved with women (or men for that matter) who are connected to "gender studies" and/or campus feminism. Many of these people want sex just as much as anybody else, but they are being taught to use their sexual experiences in college to further their gender biased political career.
Remember that, no matter their gender, there are people willing to manipulate and abuse you to advance themselves.
Adam Hollingsworth - Somehow men always seem to turn this around and victimize yourselves. Smh. And no, women do not want sex as much as you're making out, I think you are giving yourself too much credit. But it's simple: Get clear concise CONSENT from a person in a position able to give consent and you won't have rape claims against you. No way EVER are women the villains in all of this.
If it were true wouldn't it make sense to close down and abolish Colleges ??
I learn something new every video. ty based mom
You ask people to subscribe to the series, but since it isn't on its own CZcams channel, there's no way to do so without subscribing to AEI as a whole. That's too many videos for me, so I'm not doing that.
You don't have to subscribe to a series, nor even go to YT to see CHS'
commentaries. Just go to AEI and pick and choose what you want to watch.:
www.aei.org/scholar/christina-hoff-sommers/
John Hindsill Hey John! Cool, I'll try that.
Please do some facts about Domestic Violence, with Australian Government trying to focus on a federal commission that looks into issues of Domestic Violence,
it is easy for information before the federal commission to do its work to deviate the issue of domestic violence and turn it into a gender propaganda about women needing to earn more than men or equal representation of women in the workplace when in reality those issues don't even focus on the real issues of domestic violence.
I would like to know about Marital Rape. I once heard that 70% of women are victims of it (at least once in their lives). I've seen a lot of numbers but I don't get where or how the 70% came in the picture.
That's absurd. That must be extreme feminists reclassifying some types of marital sex as rape under their definitions. Ridiculous.
what do you have to say about male rape
Praise based mom
Never trust someone who wears a tie that hideous...
Rat own, Prof. Arndt.
women graduating highschool are afraid to enroll in university as a result
I'm a bit confused. Crime, including rape, is committed by criminals. Criminals, especially violent criminals are not that common on college campuses, a preserve of the bourgeois. So, I would assume that if a college had any rape at all, it would be done by very few students. A one-man crime wave, if you will. So, I would guess that any "predator theory" that says that an uncommon crime is committed by a small number of people is probably correct. And that seems to exonerate virtually all college men. what am I getting wrong?
I may be wrong but I believe the point is that "predator theory" puts the percentage too high. (Saying 6% of men on campus are serial rapists). with a bit of guesstimated math, taking a university with 30,000 students, split it in half for number of male students for 15.000, multiply by .06 for 6% gives us 900 male serial rapists on such a hypothetical sized campus.
for goodness sakes, that would mean 1/20 males you pass in the hall should be locked up for life! That is a major claim!
With such an incriminating claim, that there are hundreds and hundreds of serial rapists on every campus, data and hard evidence to back it up. Serial rapists should be stopped (of coarse) but we need to work with factual data if we want to properly address the problem.
Definitions of "sexual assault"now include "unwanted touching" and sex where consent was not requested through each step of the encounter or when the one party- almost always the female- was intoxicated. It's the feminists' idea of kinder, gentler sex, borne in their heads but not based on how sexes really interact. So if you count those examples as rape or sexual assault, you can understand why numbers have increased. Plus colleges are terrified of losing their federal funding so they report more assaults on their campuses to satisfy federal officials who tout the 1 in 5 myth. I keep mentioning Emily Yoffe's Slate article because it's a great overview of the issue and how it came about. I am a lawyer but became involved when my son was accused by a former girlfriend almost a year after they broke up, of continuing to have sex with her one night when it hurt but she didn't tell him to stop because she "was afraid." However, she had sex with him two nights later invited him to stay at her parents' house two weeks later, got an IUD, and continued to have almost daily sex with him for 2 1/2 more months- all admitted by her. He was found guilty. Oh and I should also mention she "will never get over it." THAT's why sexual assault has become more prevalent in campus.
Thanks, based mom!
My Super Ivory tower point of view is that the wealthier more well educated people have better moral standards than not. Populations of non-college graduates includes the learning disabled and drug addicts, people that were unfortunate enough to be raised in abusive households. People that were not raised with nor can understand modern ethics. I'm fairly sure that a homeless shelter is going to be allot more dangerous than a university campus.
Based mom
since lisak's study has never been replicated, it's not unreasonable to expect that he fabricated the data. why do i say this? well, in the scientific method, the only way you can trust a study is if it has been replicated. scientists rush to replicate a study in virtually every field except for gender studies. why is this? because the only people doing research in gender studies are people who believe these myths already, and they just automatically believe any study that comes out which confirms their mythology. i rarely see a student majoring in gender studies who understands the scientific method. it's like they simply have no idea how research works. if lisak's study is trustworthy, it would have been reproduced by now. nobody has ever replicated it, in almost 15 years. is that suspicious? you bet... what's the problem here though? for one, the study was based on handing out surveys and collecting data from the responses. now, this is already prone to bias. how do the researchers decide which people to give the surveys to? moreover, this was probably conducted by volunteers. in my experience, these minor jobs like handing out surveys to pedestrians are filled with students looking for school credit or small amounts of money, NOT by professors/researchers. so right off the bat, who's likely to sign up for this? people who heard about the job. who would hear about such a job? students in gender studies. right off the bat you introduce bias into the equation by letting students of gender studies decide who to pick for the sample group. that is, they might pick sketchy looking people to answer the survey so they can get a higher population of potential rapists. moreover, the questions are incredibly vague.
but what's the real issue here? it's not been reproduced. this means that the researcher could have just sat in his office and fabricated the data. we haven't seen any of the methodology being conducted. this is how science goes. ANY data can be fabricated, and this often happens. so why don't scientists sit in their offices fabricating data? saves them a lot of work, doesn't it? well, if the data don't look right, other researchers will rush to replicate it... they will soon find that his data was way off point. then, the journal and maybe his university will demand to see his materials. they will demand to see where his data came from. if he can't provide anything, he will lose all scientific credibility, if not his tenure. fabricating data goes right up against the principles of science.
so this guy who formulated this study... there is literally zero evidence that he didn't fabricate all the data. why didn't anyone replicate it? because gender studies professors aren't suspicious or intelligent enough to replicate it. if they accidentally proved him wrong by trying to replicate his data, they would ruin the credibility of one of the major claims of gender studies: that there are millions of male rapists. the fact of the matter is that this study may or may not be completely bogus. since it's not been reproduced, we have to assume it is false. that's how science works. numbers are not evidence in and of themselves. it's a statistical analysis, right? other forms of experiments work a little differently. they don't depend on numbers that can easily be fabricated. they depend on a lot of materials that can be displayed quite clearly, and we believe the studies to some extent even before they've been replicated. people didn't believe einstein completely until physical evidence proved his predictions. that's because einstein's work was nothing but numbers. the math worked, but was it just a weird loophole in mathematics? a lot of research can't be trusted until it's been replicated, PARTICULARLY statistics. it's just well known in statistics that anything could be bullshit until it's been replicated. nobody trusts numbers unless they've been replicated, or unless they're replicating existing numbers. his numbers seem WAY off previous studies, so it's right to be highly suspicious. if someone tried to replicate his crap study, and found he was wrong, the guy could blame it on a bunch of other factors. it could just be randomness imposed from small sample groups. it could be tons of variables causing differences in data. either way, there is no reason to believe that he actually had students go out and ask men to fill out surveys. the only reason to believe he did this is because 1) he said he did, 2) he'd be risking a lot by lying about it. but would he really? like i said, if someone catches him in this lie by proving his data wrong, he could blame it on all sorts of other things. the window for asking him for methodological materials is gone. it's been too long now. if he had any materials, they would be gone by now. so there's no way to prove he made all the numbers up.
even if he didn't make all the numbers up. the questions are vague. the sampling was not blind at all, and it was put in the hands of students who probably had a STRONG incentive for biased sampling. the school chosen was not representative. the population was not even necessarily college students.
in summary, there is zero reason to give any credibility to this study, and it might be completely fabricated. anyone who repeats the conclusions of this study is either: 1) completely scientifically illiterate, with no understanding of credibility OR the scientific method. or 2) scientifically literate, understanding of credibility, but deceitful and using this data as propaganda, to lie to people who will not check out the data.
after all, most people just believe the studies they see without checking the data. they expect other scientists to prove shit wrong for them. they assume it's all correct, or the researchers would have been fired by now. so you can easily get away with throwing bullshit data at people, especially people who want to hear it. if you tell people what they want to hear it doesn't matter whether it's a lie or not. notice how feminists always act suspicious of studies that disprove feminist claims, but have no suspicion at all for feminist studies? it's not that they understand credibility. it's not that they understand the scientific method. it's not that they've even SEEN the methodology, or SEEN whether it's been replicated. it's that they approve of studies that tell them what they want to hear, and they disapprove of studies that tell them what they DON'T want to hear. regardless of credibility. even if 50 studies show the same thing, that feminist lies are bullshit, they don't care because they don't UNDERSTAND SCIENCE. if just one study comes out, that hasn't been replicated, that has shoddy methodology, shoddy samples, shoddy blinding... and it tells feminists what they want to hear, they will trot it out in every argument AS IF THEY UNDERSTAND IT. all they understand is the headline. the headline based on an exaggeration of the conclusion. they never read any of the study, they just read an article about the study... and since it told them what they wanted to hear, they use it as "evidence" that they're right. when you provide a thousand studies that prove them wrong, they say "well those studies are biased." LOL. a thousand studies that disagree with feminists are "biased," but one study that's never been reproduced and was done by a feminist or fem apologist is "objective evidence."
fuck feminists, they aren't just dishonest, they are stupid and scientifically illiterate. all of them. and that means you, NAFALT.
TYBM
Segregate men and women then maybe the feminists I'll finally be happy
"Avalanche of misinformation" so true, there needs to be an organization to document reports on "hostile" lessons and lectures, also any attacks or confrontation to men. We need to protect the citizens who's life's work is in jeopardy
fact checking is a tool of the patriarchy lol ^^
the average feminist deems those 2 words to be vile and dirty and never to be done. Also if you fact check FOR them so they don't have to do the work themselves, they get to dismiss it because (enter insult, false claim etc)
Based Mom continues to be based
There's a new documentary called "THE HUNTING GROUND" (trailer on youtube - go and downvote!) which seems to have been created to spread the misinformation further. Even the name of the film is misleading, as it focuses on campuses rather than poor neighbourhoods, which we all know is where the Hunting Ground, if it exists, would be.
It's awful-and the NY Times just published a fawning review ...www.nytimes.com/2015/01/26/movies/the-hunting-ground-a-film-about-rape-culture-at-colleges.html
Cynthia Garrett Trouble....."Correction: January 29, 2015
An article on Monday about the documentary “The Hunting Ground,” about sexual assaults on campuses, referred incorrectly to the participation of college administrators in the film. Patricia A. McGuire, the president of Trinity Washington University in Washington, D.C., appeared briefly on camera. It is not the case that no senior university officials appeared. In addition, the article, using information from the filmmakers, referred imprecisely to the willingness of other schools to be interviewed. Though the filmmakers said that the six schools at the center of the film and more than 35 others had declined to participate, they did not mention that the president of at least one, Amherst College, agreed to be interviewed. That footage was not included in the documentary."
This kind of crap study goes on way to much. No thought as to who is getting the survey and if they would actually take it seriously and answer truthfully. Many guys if handed a survey like that might look at it as something to poke fun at and purposely answer positively to the worst types of activity. When doing a study especially one which can have huge social impact they need to make sure their surveyed sample group is reliable. Too much many of these "fast food picked up at the drive thru" studies are taken as the stone tablets handed to moses
You need to get on TV
thanks for doing this, we do begin to feel like monsters and to mistrust ourselves under the constant barrage of projections. I understand why the young guys these days are so 'gay' for lack of a better word and subserviant; god forbid if a kid is a 'typical jock' or boyishly exuberant today, because he will be dragged before kangaroo courts and castrated by them if he is.
Hunter Avallone should watch this
Yes!
I have to disagree with the statement "The United States is not a rape culture, but it is a gender propaganda culture." When rape comes up in many popular songs and is the main theme and plot line in so many of today's shows, I have to say that it is indeed a culture. Or at the very least a very prominent problem in the culture of the United States.
It may be a "rape culture" created by media, misinformation and extreme feminists, but it is not factually a rape culture. Read Emily Yoffe's Slate article "A College Rape Overcorrection "
Taylor Lin What are the consequences of having rape in songs and media though? If it actually leads to rape, sure, I could see how there's a problem.
However, considering that millions of men and boys are exposed to extreme violence everyday in video games and the fact that various crimes rates (like rape) have been decreasing recently, there's hardly a connection between seeing crimes and doing them.
So if rape and other violence in various media don't lead to people committing more crimes, what exactly are you proposing? That mentions of rape, sexual assault, and even sex (it's very easy to argue that those songs are not about rape, but sex) are banned?
wait what songs are about rape? Are you talking about some gang rap stuff or real music?
faultroy Yea but the 'dress culture' can not apply to everyone. If you are from India your 'dress culture' is different.
Let's group everyone everywhere dress styles and call it a dress culture. Well you will find people will all wear something different... dress culture means nothing under this sense.
If you say one song is promoting rape, you can not apply it to the mass. If you do; that means nothing.
faultroy And if you delete the index to that sub file, it's 'deleted'. That's how you can recover a drive that is wiped. It's not really "wiped", the main index does not point to the files and sub files.
You're using culture but lost its reference point.
If you don't have a strong computer background
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting
as for colleges experiencing such things; just expel both individuals. let it be known that to accuse anyone of rape will lead both accused and accuser to be exiled from the premises.
Controversial statement.
This brings up the major thing that stops me from ever identifying myself as a feminist.
Too much, and I mean FAAAR too much, language used in mainstream feminist discussion has its only purpose being to incite anger and fear.
I have a friend who is most definitely a feminist, and I love her. But she just refuses to admit how much of the feminist vocabulary is antagonistic and fear inducing, and that makes me sad.
1:40 i've seen the face of the devil.
God I'm glad I didn't study in America, being a white guy over there seems like you may as well tattoo the swastika on your forehead.
I want to subscribe to this series but not to this channel
I just want to know how to get congresswomen and other politicians to stop using the faulty to pass legislation. They don't seem to want to listen to facts. Facts don't make for good press.
You are an awesome woman. And might i add, very beautifull to.
Why let facts get in the way of students victimhood status.😱
While I usually agree against radical feminism the two studies she compared are deeply flawed and if you look at the way they were conducted clearly shows why one is lower than another. Both studies have problem but having experienced living on campus and seeing somethings… somethings off with both studies.
I love this woman, if she was my age...
Woman do get assaulted more I’ve done heavy research on it, just not necessarily college students. We also do have a rape culture, if you don’t realize that well you are ignorant beyond belief. Look around you, look how woman are blamed, dismissed, told they asked for it, etc. look at what something actually is before you make a claim.
I will not be responding to anyone who spews hate or ignorance. Thank you.
Yet, take into account that most men and women do not speak up about sexual harassment, assault, or rape.
Sources? Anything more than stating your view?