Please don't go there! This one is definately too far gone. There may be others available in the future as several water taxi businesses use them. Personally I think this would be a major cost and distraction to the progress on Sarinda. 🤪
@@ShipHappensUK Yes, please listen to the OP. These things were built for a war. They are not practical and handle on road and on water pretty poorly (some even say deathtrap). I think Sarinda will be a joy when complete. This thing is just a distraction (or worse).
RUN RUN RUN. Maybe if you had found it the day it was driven to its current location it might have been possible. Looks like you would have to fabricate everything from new.
I completely get the heart wanting to save it, but I truly think this one is probably too far gone. One thing to consider is how much time will this one take away from working on Sarinda... and you've set a date for her to be seaworthy... a date that is rapidly approaching. That would probably mean putting off work on the DUKW until Sarinda is done - or mostly done... would the DUKW even be salvageable by then? A heartbreaking decision, I'm afraid.
for once I agree with the 'negative' notion here. this is no longer a DUKW, this is a pile of rust. I've genuinely seen more complete examples on the bottom of Italian lakes that have been there since the war.
There is not a component that is not corroded, it would require a ground up rebuild with over 90% replaced. So much that it could not be considered 'the original'. Sad but it is already lost. Some components could be saved as keepsakes but that is all.
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I live in Montana and one of my neighbors restores all sorts of WWII-era vehicles. These amphibious types are one of his specialties and he has assured me that unless you have access to parts and some serious time and money on hand or a potential client with deep pockets - DO NOT TAKE IT ON ! The condition of the one in this episode needs a complete rebuild. It also helps to have served in the army because that is a huge resource in itself.
Does the photo of the Dukw, on a low loader, indicate something? If you do take it home, are least the disintegration may be halted. Such a project will certainly keep you out of the pub ! Love you all!!!
Essentially, the hull/body can be used as a template to take measurements from. An English Wheel, Planishing Hammer, Sheet Metal Brake & Sheers, along with a few other tin knocker's and sheet metal fabricator's tools will allow you to make a "buck," then fit up and fabricate a new body/hull. The remainder of the running gear can be completely disassembled, cleaned, inspected, and refurbished. Yup, it's a huge project to be sure, but it would be well worth it to me personally. My wife is very happy indeed, to learn this unit is over in the U.K. and not nearby, here in Maine, USA! I'm a sucker for what others consider lost causes. You still have an enormous amount of work ahead of you with Sarinda, but perhaps you might have storage space available until such time you can turn your efforts to a new project? 👍👍👍
A guy in the netherlands did restore a iraki tank that was sitting rusting away for years in england, search for master milo. He did create a lot new but even the engine which was host to a lot of none engine stuff is running again. But he does it for his video channel, and only does work like this. I think when you put it in storage, it will keep on rusting away, when sarinda is ready it will be even more gone, I feel the same as you, in my heart its a serious waste of cool ww2 stuff, but my head sees all the work that's needed and says run .. maybe pick up something in a less rusted state after sarinda
The both of you have proven that you have the dedication, tenacity and ability to work hard, learn and develop your skills. If anyone, you could do it, you can. However, just because you can, doesn't necessarily mean that you should. This is a mammoth project that I feel would eat up an enormous amount of time that would probably be better spent on Sarinda. Furthermore, whilst it is history, I think you need to set a few parameters for yourselves. This is an American machine and Sarinda is a former British naval vessel. Perhaps, when such opportunities arise, you could for example, set yourselves a rule that you only take on projects that are directly historically British in nature or any other rule that helps to eliminate temptation before you even start to consider it. I also think that your recently completed fishing boat is a far better tender for Sarinda than the amphibious vehicle you looked at. I could be wrong, but I don't think those amphibious vehicles are really meant to be sitting in the water for any length of time as by the nature of the beast, they are compromised. All that said, Gemma, you deserve a lot of credit and praise for even wanting to try and save a piece of history.
Just because it isn't a British vehicle/vessel doesn't make it less important to save. 🙀🙀 It's just too far gone to take on with all the work that Sarinda needs. Best to pass on this one. Hopefully, if such a vehicle would be useful to you, one might show up that is in better shape.
Guys for gods sake don’t even go there I worked in steel fabrication for years and that is possibly a full rebuild so there wont be much of the original left plus you don’t even know what state the transmission or engine is in and parts may be really hard or impossible to come by given its age. Please don’t be diverted from the superb work you and your fantastic occasional helpers are doing on Sarinda. Perhaps when you finish her you can look at another project on WW2 equipment but not that DUKW and defo not now😮!
A number of modified DUKW vehicles in the USA and elsewhere have been involved in mass casualty fatality sinkings. Mostly because they were operated in rough weather and had the open top layout covered in with a roof etc. Man that one is super rough..........or "rough as guts". Your biggest challenges are going to be, getting spares for WW2 drive train (tank restorers know this) and getting sheet metal rolled and welded. Great video )) being able to see all the insides and chassis was interesting. It can be saved, its just a question of dollars and originality.........
Here in Seattle a DUK tour bus broke a front axle on our tallest bridge and ran into other cars in the other lanes. It ruined the business, and it sold off it's entire fleet a few years later. Point is they can break apart even with a tour company's money behind the 70-80 year old parts....
@@randigustavson3653 Investigations of DUKW maritime disasters.......have uncovered serious problems with tour companies under maintaining those vehicles, and modifying them in a manner that the original designers never intended.
Was a pleasure to meet you guys today! I felt a bit guilty for tempting you guys with this distraction from ML 1392, but the hope was mostly there'll be somebody watching your vids who fancies taking this big project on or can use it to keep another DUKW running. Looked it up and it's an earlier 1942/1943 chassis, almost certainly will have seen use in WW2. PS: I filmed a bit of behind-the-scenes footage I can send over if your viewers want to see what you're really like when the GoPro isn't running (literally exactly the same as when you're filming 😁).
One thing is for sure - it is not going to fill up with rainwater while you think about it! (also, it won't float very well!) - I wouldn't touch it with two barge-poles taped together! There used to be to DUKWs in Liverpool, doing tour rides around the docks, and there were two on the Thames. They would be in much better health, if you could find them. Another thing to bear in mind is - they all sank, with passengers on board! There's a modern one they use for rescuing people from the Southport beach mud-flats!
i always fancied a DUKW myself - i have seen 'em up close and personal, and there used to be two of them that used to run off the shore at Eastbourne many years ago as a tourist attraction, to go past Beachy Head and Lighthouses, don't think they run anymore, and have looked on Google maps to see if still there, no sign of them, either rotting away etc these things always need some vision, when you can see beyond the flaky paint and rotting boards, mostly these were built of timber and applied to a very rough metal frame for a cost effective solution to taking beaches during WWII i love it, it looks mostly there and you will have a lot of fun talking to current owners of remaining maintained DUKWs, all the rusting metal frame can be easily copied and fitted, all the mechanics appears to be intact and will be fine after some full on maintenance, as is the main chassis, so that's a great start, tear it down, get the engine started, and then strip that, rebuild paint like new and bring her back to life with love, going to be pretty epic - at least she can fit in your workshop go look at some current day working DUKWs to get a good idea of what needs doing, the owners will give you great insight to what's possible and what isn't, and then lots of restless nights dreaming hahahaha - good luck!!
I have actually driven one before. My boss was in the junkyard business in BC Canada and bought one back in the late 80s. We slowly started making a kind of houseboat out of it and I drove it 20 Kilometers to a Parade (at a top speed of about 25 MPH). We did have it under power on a large river but it was taking on water, so we abandoned that trip. I had it driving in the parade with prop engaged as well and all the kids loved that. This one is in VERY rough shape and I understand your connection to saving history in this, but Sarinda is more worthy of your time and devotion. I applaud your decision either way, but hope you focus more on Sarinda.
This one is strictly a parts machine to keep others running. Not something you need to be taking on if you want to stay on course with Sarinda. Sad to see such militaria get to this stage of rot but they were never intended to last this long. You can’t save everything. I almost bought a DUKW at auction 43 years ago. It was a running and seaworthy unit. It went stupidly cheap at the time. Not much more than scrap price. I think that was exactly what happened to it. There is a small fleet of these on the streets of San Francisco used for tourism along Fisherman’s Wharf.
Run far and run fast! DUKWs were basically a cab over deuce and a half truck with a floatation body built around it. They were designed with an anticipated service life of about 45 days in combat, so they weren't very robust even when new. The only thing keeping the water from coming in between the hull and the axles are rubber boots. When one of those fails the water comes in at 600 gallons a minute. No number of bilge pumps will keep it afloat at that point. They're also very slow in the water, about 5 or 6 knots. With the tidal flows in your area, even on a well restored one you would spend a lot of time looking at the same bit of land if you were going against the flow. You'd just as likely find yourself going backwards.
They actually still make them for the tourist industry.a bit longer to get more sight seers in them If you can weld a lot ,these take a lot of work to fix. The running gear was all GMC 6x6 truck ,for which there are still plenty of parts available 80 years later. But that one is buggered,not just poorly.
All depends on the cost to buy it because if they want more than scrap metal price for it makes it extremely hard to invest any money into it. 60% of it is either already rusted away or will be scrapped and need to be replaced. Your already looking at years of work, moving costs, and tens of thousands of pounds to restore it correctly. But initially my biggest concern would be the purchase price. if you buy it then you have to transport it and you don't want to invest a ton of money in a project that just ends up sitting for another 13 years. I agree that just about anything is salvageable, but the costs have to make sense from the beginning. The condition its in currently, they should just donate to you at this point in the name of saving it. I would love to see it saved but i also accept that the numbers probably won't add up though. Good luck you two and let's see if you can make this SHIP Happen. Love you Simmon and Gemma.
As much as I LOVE military history, especially WWII, I have to say that this is an enormous project and with all that rust it would be like trying to sew moonbeams to a lace curtain. Even if the mechanics are sound, the body/hull is almost non existent. Personally, I would pass on it. That being said I have to admit that I absolutely thought you two had bitten off way more than you could chew when you bought Sarinda and I quickly learned to never underestimate you guys. Tough call. Cheers! From across the pond in Oregon.
I've bought some basket cases myself and completed them, but this one I would have to say NO, far too gone now. It's nice to save that sort of thing but don't get sidelined by that.
when i was 9 years old, i was in an organization called the sea cadets, and we used to ride in parades in one of those DUKW vehicles and have very fond memories of them. although the last thing that you probably need is yet another project, i have to applaud your willingness to consider such a formidable task. besides, what could possibly go wrong?
I would love to see it restored as my father drove one onto Sword Beach on D-Day. He was in 299Coy RASC. He also went on into Holland after the dykes were breached rescuing civilians and did the Rhine crossing. He loved his DUKW.
At this point I’m certain I’m just piling on, however I haven’t seen several things addressed with certainty. 1) this unit due to its poor condition is a bad candidate. 2) theses were never meant to spend time permanently on the water. 3) there were specific circumstances where these could be used(weather, swell, tide) laid out in military manuals. 4) Civilian operators have removed safety equipment and other accessories and compromised the limited floatation of the vehicle. Without a very experienced hand or detailed drawings and manuals it is likely you would never recover those systems. The drive system appears fairly complete but without access to parts and components to support it even a fully functional unit would be incredibly expensive to maintain.
You certainly found the appropriate sound track for this tour. A walk through the boneyard of the undead. YIKES! That said - the frame, running gear, wheelhouse (a rare version I believe or greatly modified) seems doable. The hull and presumably deck require completely new fabrication. Considering these crafts were not "streamlined in any way, fabrication is simple enough. Determine the length of the longest body panel and you'll know the shear length. A press brake of the same length and some welding gear and your good to go. The shear & brake capacity won't be an issue because the hulls were light gage. I would wager that Simon and his mates could get it running and driving (not safely, but driving). Then the question; is would the hull fall off the frame OR can it be transported on flatbed to dry storage. I would crowd fund the restoration as we in the US have done with 2 WW2 PT Boats. Value as it sits? $500 US max. You'd be doing them a favor clearing it off the lot. Can you find any history on that particular hull? How did it wind up in the UK? Left on one of the beaches during an amphibious invasion? Which one? etc.
as far as I know, the DUKW wasn't in service for long before D-day, so it might be around the same age as Sarinda. about the parts: it is basically a GMC CCKW with a hull welded around it, later versions had a central tire-inflation system, this helped them drive ashore on gravel shores. another benefit is that there are museums that could help you with pictures. the real question is if you enjoy doing bodywork. and when it comes to amphibious vehicles, remember that they are like bathtubs, so leave them out in the rain and they will fill up with water and will rot before your eyes. and you could try to preserve the DUKW in it's current condition, so that you can work on it later (when Sarinda is weathertight, for instance)
Brilliant that you want to save it! They do say that a boat is just a hole in the water into which you have to pour an inexhaustible supply of money. You’ve already got one of those and you are doing a fantastic job of bringing her back to life. This DUKW would, I think be a similar hole in the water, with the additional benefit of being a hole in the land also demanding money and an even bigger hole in time. Your time! I’m afraid I agree with those who say save Sarinda first. Or you’ll drive yourself nuts! Although you could fix up that hull with oak and copper nails. Will epoxy stick oak to rusty steel? Now there’s a challenge! Good luck. I know you’ll do just what you want, but please don’t overburden yourselves with impossible workloads! Buy it if you must, but as soon as you get it, submerge it in an oil bath to stop any further rusting until, that is, you get back from your Mediterranean cruise on board Sarinda John
1 minute in and fuck me that's not getting supplies to Sarinda any time soon, but it would be a hell of an interesting project! [EDIT] Honestly folks, I think its a bit far gone and would probably take up far too much of your time forcing you to decide between restoring Sarinda or it. That being said, it does need saving and I do admire you both for even considering it.
Would I buy a rusty WW2 DUKW???? Errrrrr hell yeah I would!! A friend of mine restored one just in time for the 75th anniversary of the D-Day landings, the difference from before to after was amazing, it was just rotting away beforehand, another piece of history saved!
i think it is better when you concentrate on your boat first , and only then find another fantastic project like that. Lots of love to you both ! Love your videos ! ( if you have somewhere to store the duck -then buy it i love it ! ) x
The question is are they selling it or just want it out of the way. If they will give it to you or sell at scrap price minus the transport cost, take it. Put it out the back and make a small shed to keep it dry to preserve whats left. It looks like the chassis and running gear is all there and salvageable, and thats the important bit. You can then make up your mind later without having spent anything. You can fix it or recover the cost in scrap value, or pass it onto someone who will fix it or is looking for parts to fix another one. Just don't take it and start to work on it now. You've got your hands more than full enough already. Basically, what you have is the opportunity to put off its demise until you are ready to take it on, scrap it or use it to save another one.
I’ve seen a worse one without an engine. These were thrown together and then float tested, as it sunk the workers would fit bilge pumps unit it stopped sinking then they would send it out for action. The tyres had a self deflate and inflate attachment so they could get out of soft sand on the beach. The frame and bits of running gear are probably the only things you will salvage. The body is gone. If you like grinding and sanding then go for it. I would but my wife would shoot me again so buying another project. If you know a good metal workshop with shot blaster, shears, brake press and welding equipment then you’re laughing. But working wood and metal in your workshop isn’t recommended. Good luck with whatever you decide
As a lifelong career of welding and fabrication(50+years), I advise you to not take on this project. It's too far gone, and no parts are readily available. The boat is a big enough project for you guys, and it's amazing what you have accomplished so far. Love the show!!!
Very little is ever "too far gone" and that certainly isn't. It will, however, be at least as big a project as Sarinda and probably will not be, when finished, as pleasurable to own and use - DUKWs have "a reputation", if you know what I mean. That said, if it could be stored under cover until Sarinda is finished it would definitely be a worthwhile enterprise.
I totally understand your feelings on saving history but personally feel it may be a commitment too far right now as an older guy I would finish the boat and any surprises left to find there before splitting my attention onto another unknown that said you are both very capable and driven also ONLY you can really know what you have left in the tank! a tricky problem for sure but am equally sure you will make the best decision for yourselves as a couple thanks for sharing and have a great day best wishes
There are still a few around, some as tourist trip "boats" in different harbours & rivers around the world. If it's still around when you finish Sarinda have another look, there are military vehicle nutters around who will have a look at it, and some may even have the time and resources to do a full rebuild.
Oh no, please don't do it, that's way too far gone! I get the heart string pulling bit but that's a lifetime of work and you've already got a massive ongoing project on your hands, but of course big respect for you two on what you're already doing and accomplished so far. One step at a time 🤞👍
I'm the type of person who gives EVERYTHING a personality. I truly do not like seeing someone hurting including animals. I pet my car, boat and RV, they, too, are part of my family. I can remember my father telling me that I can't save everyone or everything. It breaks my heart to walk away from projects like boats, etc. I would never walk away from a person or pet. I believe in you two and know you will do what is right in your heart!
Great idea and yes it could be restored. I've done a CCKW 353 and a few others. BUT, you could buy a running/floating one for less then you will spend restoring that beast. They come up for sale all the time. As someone else here said, one project at a time. Particularity ones that you can climb into. Good Luck.
To start, you 2 I really enjoy your commitment to bringing back to life your boat and as you say "keeping alive a part of history" but some things are an Everest to climb and this dukw is, I restore old cars and at the moment a Land Rover 101 forward control military vehicle from the 70's , and so from my experience looking at that dukw, that is one hell of a job to bring back to life, if it was an amphibious vehicle you wanted, I would plumb for an alvis stalwart with a hiab, anyway keep up the great work and the vids 😉
What upsets me is seeing classic cars/whatever sitting in a field rotting and the owner wanting stupid money only to then drive by 10 years later to still see it sitting there.
If the price is right I’d be tempted. Chassis looks good and that old 270 GMC would run forever. Even if it doesn’t come back as a DUKW it is similar drivetrain and chassis to a G508 truck so could go on to live as a donor for one.
You Can buy these used or rebuilt in usa , they are used in many cities as tourist attractions, Boston , Philadelphia ( until one sank killing a tourist) and many others . A landing craft would be a much better boat for sirenda.
It looks like it was under water for some time, its way to far gone to be saved. The whole hull would have to be remade all the mechanical bits would have to be rebuilt or replaced with modern parts because getting parts for it is next to impossible. it would be easier and faster to build an amphibious vehicle from scratch then it would be to restore that thing.
I love watching you two from Oregon. Maybe I am spoiled by the lack of iron cancer here? But, WOW! I've seen you two work miracles on Sarinda and your fishing boat. Truly impressive! But, I worry, like the rest of the commentary, that you're trying to rescue a Yankee that is going to steal your attention from Sarinda. She is worth your full attention. In the words of Doctor Who, RUN!
Buy it, put it in a dry safe storage place and work on it as and when you feel like it. No rush, no timeframes. What's the worst that can happen? if you don't get it finished then resell her. At least you tried.
I’ve been watching since episode one, and I thought you was mighty brave taking on such a project; and if I’m being honest, I thought you’d taken on too much, but you proved me wrong in the first few episodes, so I’m confident in your ability, but I question the time and effort needed, especially along side the work on Sarinda, and I’m not sure that thing will be much more than dust if it had to wait until the first project is finished lol
It's a basket case; run like Hell. One further point: I think you might find it's not much good as a tender - these DUKWs are best launched and retrieved from firm sand or a concrete ramp and with the mud of the estuary I suspect you run the risk of getting quickly and permanently bogged down. Otherwise it's fine :D
Please for the love of God let that one die. There were 21K of these made and there are many in much better condition. There was a tour company that used these for amphibious tours and the locals HATED them with a passion.
I like the idea of restoring old, unusual things but the dukw is beyond any sense. I can't see any part that wouldn't need to be replaced, I'm afraid if anyone were to attempt that job they would have something comparable to Triggers broom. It is really a scrapper as there is hardly anything to salvage.
Hi guys...please don't go there, it might be the straw that breaks the camels back. We really enjoy your weekly vlogs and your boat is so interesting along with your fabulous skills. Don't get distracted you already have a lot of balls in the air. Kids, work, fun together. You are both awesome...Gemma stop looking on Gumtree you rascal. Cheers Mike and Raewyn NZ...we will try to visit in Aug on our UK trip. Don't change what you are doing we love our weekly catch ups.
as a mechanic and body man first look was run run run but as you have said yes can it be rebuilt well yes it can but it's going to take a long time as you have basically got to start from scratch with the body basically making a new one the mechanics look pretty good a good clean up and strip down would get it running again if it did drive in in 2010 then the gearbox and drive system will still be ok the engine as long as the water hasn't got into the cylinders and rotted out the bores then that will run again may need an overhaul I think it's an old GM 6 cylinder a 5.6 litre or bigger it may even be a 4.2 but I doubt it the parts will still be able to get hold of them in the states and maybe over here or replace it with an old Bedford 6 cylinder which is basically the same but turn it into a diesel cheaper to run but its going to be a massive task and I am sure you will get plenty of help to rebuild her when and if you start her as I am getting to know you pair of lovely people if you took it on it would get done and it would be a piece of history saved but I saw the look on simons face which would of been the same as mine run as its a monumental task but serinder was just the same and look at her now yes from the outside she looks very tatty but the inside of the hull she looks like new so I know you to can do it so knowing you to I would say go for it why the hell not so buy her and save a bit f history and it will make a great channel to watch you to rebuild her as well so BUY HER thats my opinion.
They are death traps, walk away. In fact, run away. One recently sank in Liverpool docks on a flat calm day. A friend of my parents restored one about fifty years ago. He took it out on the sea from Southport beach for the first time and immediately got rid of it! He said it was the most unseaworthy thing he'd ever been out on.
I did and am having fun doing it. I have met people all over the world while searching for parts and I’ve had great luck finding what I need. I’m two years into it and I will be driving it on its first mission on Memorial Day in the US. Agreed that it’s not the least expensive vehicle to own and maintain, but it’s certainly not the most expensive.
My suggestion; finish your curent projects first and then look if you still have the energy, money and time to take on something like the duck. And I think it's to far gone to make it any valuable WWII object with hardly no spare parts to be found to make it a nearly original
I don’t think that is so much a restore project as a total rebuild project. You can’t take responsibility for it. It’s like finding old boat ribs in the mud and deciding you have to restore it or nobody will. Some things are just too far gone. On the other hand I will wish you luck and follow along if you decide to go for it.
I agree: its a "bit" to far gone for a unique fixer-upper opportunity... BUT, if it's destined for the scrap heap, get sections of sheetmetal from it and have keychain sized rubber duck (DUKW) silhouettes CNC cut from them and sell to further support Sarinda. You'd get to hold a piece of history and help keep a wooden boat on the sunny side of the water.
Having help my friends restore several classic muscle cars I'm pretty savy to what it takes to do this kind of work. We are just finishing a 1968 Camaro and we're at around $30,000 not including our labour and 7 years into to it. It was in way better shape that this dukw and we can buy everything we need for it. You are looking at a huge project and there is likely nothing for it you can buy which means manufabbing every single bit and Bob for this. As a guesstimate you are looking at $150,000 or more and 10 to 20 years. There's a group over there in the UK that restore tanks and military vehicles. They had a show on BBC about what they do. They are all highly experienced at it and it still takes them 10 to 15 years to finish a project. My advice is, RUN FOREST RUN. If it was in better shape then maybe but with Sarinda and the side projects you guy do come up with I think you'd be do a disservice to Sarinda. Focus on her till you get her done then look for another project.
You won't need metal, wood, rubber,canvas, perspex etc etc. You will need a magic wand and that's what you require to take this on, unless you are best friends with Harry Potter you ain't getting one. Stick to what you are doing reviving the old girl. The DUKW would be better serving her sisters as a spare parts done. She's served her country, time to let her rest now... Keep up the good work on Sarinda and if you really want to save a wartime peice of History restore Her back to original ML1392, she's more than worth it.... Keep up the fantastic work you're doing, respect.
It’s not poorly. It’s died and is decomposing, they just forgot to bury it! Sarinda is one of a few left of a handful made. DUKW were mass produced and there’s plenty of them still round, all around the coast of UK, North America and Europe. This is one conservation that you don’t need to do. It’s toast for that one. There’s plenty more. Their place in the present is already assured.
Good for parts only and it would definitely need to be very very cheap. Do you have a lot of spare time? If you want a DUKW go and buy one that runs and drives that you can have fun with.
Please do not attempt to rescue this amphibious vehicle. Your plates are full and your coffer is taxed in the restoration of Sarinda. There are plenty of restored and restorable amphibious vehicles here in the US. Keep up the wonderful work that you are doing on Sarinda, I love watching!
People thought you were crazy for taking on a wooden boat project of that magnitude but you prove them wrong. This is a piece of military history and it deserves to be saved no matter how rough it looks
You are already over-committed for time and resources and the amphibian would be a 10 year project even if you had a dedicated workshop with heavy sheet metal working equipment and full mechanical and machining facilities. I have taken on huge projects like your boat and the amphibian all my life and now in my late sixties one of the things I have learnt is that not stretching your self too thin is the secret of success because otherwise you never get anything finished . You are correct in thinking it would be useful and if it was functional and not a basket case buying it might make sense. Being concerned about the loss of the history has to be put in perspective - You can not solve all the worlds problems and trying to do so may well mean neither of your projects gets finished. Really enjoy you videos and appreciate the effort you are putting in.
I saw one many decades ago, used by Lord St Levan to get to and from his tidal island home on St Michael's Mount in Cornwall (didn't matter if the tide was in or out). I had an amphibious ride in one during an Armed Services week in the early sixties in Plymouth. I recognised the typical "Bedford whine" immediately.
Even if it ran and drove perfect, the structure is too far gone.I’m sure there’s one in a museum somewhere to keep the history alive I’d say a hard no,let it go. Thanks John from Arizona
It is undeniably, a big project. The sheet metal is looks to be completely wasted, but if the frame and powertrain are decent, that's a good starting point. I'm no expert, but DUKW parts might not be as impossible to find as some other equipment from that era, as a lot of these were and still are in civilian use. Boston has a fleet of them offering Duck Tours.
I hate to say this, but that is one very dead DUKW, the only thing I would buy that for is to drain any oils grease or anything that would contaminate where I would store it and that is in the sea as fish and marine life habitat, there are plenty WW2 originals in lots of museums all across America, the only thing on that rust is the sign, to rebuild this vehicle you would have to actually build an entirely new vehicle thus not saving this war hero at all, please think about it.
Those death traps, even when perfectly restored, kill passengers at a pretty impressive rate. In the US at least they're popular in coastal cities for tourism, but Lord almighty there'a a high attrition rate.
@@suburban404 I remember. A young Romanian couple. I was on a tug further downriver that day. The captain that hit them was on the phone with his child's oncology office, and distracted. Awful all around.
You can still buy these in working condition... At least on this side of the pond. It looks to me that you would have to completely replace every part. Probably not worth it... Unless it's free.
"A bit poorly" has got to be the understatement of the century. This looks like a heap of junk, with a huge amount of steel just gone missing entirely.
They have a propensity for sinking, and that amount of rust is a massive jib, it would out Sarinda back years. Leave it alone, there re a number of them working around the world there are only 2 Sarindas
A boat is a hole in the water into which you pour money, to keep the water from filling the hole. One thing going for Surinda (sp?) is that it seems to keep the sea out and is a piece of sheer craftsmanship. Save history one ship at a time, would be my view, or you may end up saving neither. You have already projected that you could be several more years on Surinda. Go with your head. Sometimes the head must rule the heart. More than 20,000 DUKWs were built. Others will survive.
As it stands I dont think she is going to float. Such a sorry state, they are worth saving but this one would test even the best DIY boat youtubers. very interesting 2x👍
With Sarinda you have many pleasurable options when she is made new. With the DUKW, you have massive metal restoration, possible unfixable engines, and when finished, a bad design that never caught on....
I'd say you've done your bit to bring it to peoples attention, its too far gone on top of everything else, seriously you've got enough on your plate with Sarinda, fishing boat, camper business , kids and a life. Love what you are doing already.
"Without crazy people like us there is not going to be much history left in the world is there?" Truer words were never spoken about you too. It is however a very daunting project and while I hate to see it slip away, there are other ones that have been restored and in environments where parts are easier to acquire -- so I would regrettably vote No on this one. Love you guys...
Wow, that is a lot of metal deterioration. Here in New England, the DUKW amphibious 2 1/2 ton truck (we called them "ducks") were used by our Coast Guard after WW2. They would motor down the highway from their station, cross the beach, and enter the ocean for rescue. Today, they have all been sold off. DUKWs are now used to transport tourist groups over the streets of Boston's freedom trail, in Boston Harbor, and on the Charles River. From what I have heard, maintenance costs are high and their performance on both land and sea marginal compared to dedicated boats and trucks. None-the less, they got the military and its equipment off the ships, over the beach, and inland where they needed to be at the time they were needed. There are many more in much better condition.
@@michaelardai9703 Thanks. According to the Boston Duck Tours site: "On August 7, 2014, Boston Duck Tours retired its last remaining original World War II DUKW from regularly-scheduled tours. As of 2015 all regular tours are conducted on replica DUKWs that are larger and easier to repair than the original vehicles, and run on bio diesel". I do not know how many true DUKWs are left "in the wild".
For the right price, I would do it for sure. But it depends all on what they want for it. The money needs to make sense so you can always back off from it.
A big distraction and expense taken away from Sarinda. It's basically a GMC truck encased in a sheet steel body. They even leaked when they were new. I've seen less holes in a trawler net. Somebody will buy it for the mechanical parts to restore possibly a GMC truck from WW2 or another DKUW. So it wont be totally lost, but I'm with you on trying to preserve stuff like this. Some of the WW2 re enactment weekend shows wold be worth a look to see restored DKUW's. They would also be a good platform for promoting Sarindas restoration.
The problem with stuff like this is what will you use it for? Impractical big, both to drive and store. It's a big vehicle that can sail. But is probably not really good at neither, drive on roads and sailing on water. Kind of like restoring a road scraper, a lot of effort into something that has a very limited and specific use.
It would have be handled as a construction project where most of the work is outsourced to a good local fabrication shop. Financing would be the key. A project manager would be really important.
Please don't go there! This one is definately too far gone. There may be others available in the future as several water taxi businesses use them. Personally I think this would be a major cost and distraction to the progress on Sarinda. 🤪
I think this time we fully agree!
@@ShipHappensUK Yes, please listen to the OP. These things were built for a war. They are not practical and handle on road and on water pretty poorly (some even say deathtrap). I think Sarinda will be a joy when complete. This thing is just a distraction (or worse).
Please don't!
Concentrate on the beautiful Sarinda. I know she's hard work, but very soon, you'll see the benefits of your hard work.
I think there are plenty of these in America so concentrate on Sarinda, you have enough work to do on her without over stretching yourselves. 👍
RUN RUN RUN. Maybe if you had found it the day it was driven to its current location it might have been possible. Looks like you would have to fabricate everything from new.
I completely get the heart wanting to save it, but I truly think this one is probably too far gone. One thing to consider is how much time will this one take away from working on Sarinda... and you've set a date for her to be seaworthy... a date that is rapidly approaching. That would probably mean putting off work on the DUKW until Sarinda is done - or mostly done... would the DUKW even be salvageable by then? A heartbreaking decision, I'm afraid.
Chris Edward finish work on sarinda.
for once I agree with the 'negative' notion here. this is no longer a DUKW, this is a pile of rust. I've genuinely seen more complete examples on the bottom of Italian lakes that have been there since the war.
There is not a component that is not corroded, it would require a ground up rebuild with over 90% replaced. So much that it could not be considered 'the original'. Sad but it is already lost. Some components could be saved as keepsakes but that is all.
@@noname-nd8ec agree, far to far gone.
Even for a parts supplieer.
Si vous êtes jeunes ( avec beaucoup de ,d'années de passion de vant vous, également des connaissances en Chaudronnerie , un atelier bien outillé .. alors lancez vous avec tenacite et courage , ....bravo ...! Claude
J' ai cela moi même à 18 ans mais avec du matériel allemand que j' ai toujours...
I live in Montana and one of my neighbors restores all sorts of WWII-era vehicles. These amphibious types are one of his specialties and he has assured me that unless you have access to parts and some serious time and money on hand or a potential client with deep pockets - DO NOT TAKE IT ON ! The condition of the one in this episode needs a complete rebuild. It also helps to have served in the army because that is a huge resource in itself.
Does the photo of the Dukw, on a low loader, indicate something?
If you do take it home, are least the disintegration may be halted.
Such a project will certainly keep you out of the pub !
Love you all!!!
Essentially, the hull/body can be used as a template to take measurements from. An English Wheel, Planishing Hammer, Sheet Metal Brake & Sheers, along with a few other tin knocker's and sheet metal fabricator's tools will allow you to make a "buck," then fit up and fabricate a new body/hull. The remainder of the running gear can be completely disassembled, cleaned, inspected, and refurbished. Yup, it's a huge project to be sure, but it would be well worth it to me personally. My wife is very happy indeed, to learn this unit is over in the U.K. and not nearby, here in Maine, USA! I'm a sucker for what others consider lost causes. You still have an enormous amount of work ahead of you with Sarinda, but perhaps you might have storage space available until such time you can turn your efforts to a new project? 👍👍👍
A guy in the netherlands did restore a iraki tank that was sitting rusting away for years in england, search for master milo. He did create a lot new but even the engine which was host to a lot of none engine stuff is running again. But he does it for his video channel, and only does work like this. I think when you put it in storage, it will keep on rusting away, when sarinda is ready it will be even more gone, I feel the same as you, in my heart its a serious waste of cool ww2 stuff, but my head sees all the work that's needed and says run .. maybe pick up something in a less rusted state after sarinda
The both of you have proven that you have the dedication, tenacity and ability to work hard, learn and develop your skills. If anyone, you could do it, you can. However, just because you can, doesn't necessarily mean that you should. This is a mammoth project that I feel would eat up an enormous amount of time that would probably be better spent on Sarinda. Furthermore, whilst it is history, I think you need to set a few parameters for yourselves. This is an American machine and Sarinda is a former British naval vessel. Perhaps, when such opportunities arise, you could for example, set yourselves a rule that you only take on projects that are directly historically British in nature or any other rule that helps to eliminate temptation before you even start to consider it. I also think that your recently completed fishing boat is a far better tender for Sarinda than the amphibious vehicle you looked at. I could be wrong, but I don't think those amphibious vehicles are really meant to be sitting in the water for any length of time as by the nature of the beast, they are compromised. All that said, Gemma, you deserve a lot of credit and praise for even wanting to try and save a piece of history.
Just because it isn't a British vehicle/vessel doesn't make it less important to save. 🙀🙀 It's just too far gone to take on with all the work that Sarinda needs. Best to pass on this one. Hopefully, if such a vehicle would be useful to you, one might show up that is in better shape.
Guys for gods sake don’t even go there I worked in steel fabrication for years and that is possibly a full rebuild so there wont be much of the original left plus you don’t even know what state the transmission or engine is in and parts may be really hard or impossible to come by given its age. Please don’t be diverted from the superb work you and your fantastic occasional helpers are doing on Sarinda. Perhaps when you finish her you can look at another project on WW2 equipment but not that DUKW and defo not now😮!
@@RikSandstromCalifornia You clearly missed the point. Perhaps you should look up the term 'for example'.
A number of modified DUKW vehicles in the USA and elsewhere have been involved in mass casualty fatality sinkings. Mostly because they were operated in rough weather and had the open top layout covered in with a roof etc. Man that one is super rough..........or "rough as guts". Your biggest challenges are going to be, getting spares for WW2 drive train (tank restorers know this) and getting sheet metal rolled and welded. Great video )) being able to see all the insides and chassis was interesting. It can be saved, its just a question of dollars and originality.........
Here in Seattle a DUK tour bus broke a front axle on our tallest bridge and ran into other cars in the other lanes. It ruined the business, and it sold off it's entire fleet a few years later. Point is they can break apart even with a tour company's money behind the 70-80 year old parts....
@@randigustavson3653 Investigations of DUKW maritime disasters.......have uncovered serious problems with tour companies under maintaining those vehicles, and modifying them in a manner that the original designers never intended.
@@wazza33racerbrick immortar's youtube channel covered a few dukw incidents including the Seattle one
Was a pleasure to meet you guys today! I felt a bit guilty for tempting you guys with this distraction from ML 1392, but the hope was mostly there'll be somebody watching your vids who fancies taking this big project on or can use it to keep another DUKW running. Looked it up and it's an earlier 1942/1943 chassis, almost certainly will have seen use in WW2.
PS: I filmed a bit of behind-the-scenes footage I can send over if your viewers want to see what you're really like when the GoPro isn't running (literally exactly the same as when you're filming 😁).
It's only use is a blueprint for building a new one.😢
One thing is for sure - it is not going to fill up with rainwater while you think about it! (also, it won't float very well!) - I wouldn't touch it with two barge-poles taped together! There used to be to DUKWs in Liverpool, doing tour rides around the docks, and there were two on the Thames. They would be in much better health, if you could find them. Another thing to bear in mind is - they all sank, with passengers on board! There's a modern one they use for rescuing people from the Southport beach mud-flats!
i always fancied a DUKW myself - i have seen 'em up close and personal, and there used to be two of them that used to run off the shore at Eastbourne many years ago as a tourist attraction, to go past Beachy Head and Lighthouses, don't think they run anymore, and have looked on Google maps to see if still there, no sign of them, either rotting away etc
these things always need some vision, when you can see beyond the flaky paint and rotting boards, mostly these were built of timber and applied to a very rough metal frame for a cost effective solution to taking beaches during WWII
i love it, it looks mostly there and you will have a lot of fun talking to current owners of remaining maintained DUKWs, all the rusting metal frame can be easily copied and fitted, all the mechanics appears to be intact and will be fine after some full on maintenance, as is the main chassis, so that's a great start, tear it down, get the engine started, and then strip that, rebuild paint like new and bring her back to life with love, going to be pretty epic - at least she can fit in your workshop
go look at some current day working DUKWs to get a good idea of what needs doing, the owners will give you great insight to what's possible and what isn't, and then lots of restless nights dreaming hahahaha - good luck!!
I have actually driven one before. My boss was in the junkyard business in BC Canada and bought one back in the late 80s. We slowly started making a kind of houseboat out of it and I drove it 20 Kilometers to a Parade (at a top speed of about 25 MPH). We did have it under power on a large river but it was taking on water, so we abandoned that trip. I had it driving in the parade with prop engaged as well and all the kids loved that. This one is in VERY rough shape and I understand your connection to saving history in this, but Sarinda is more worthy of your time and devotion. I applaud your decision either way, but hope you focus more on Sarinda.
This one is strictly a parts machine to keep others running. Not something you need to be taking on if you want to stay on course with Sarinda. Sad to see such militaria get to this stage of rot but they were never intended to last this long. You can’t save everything.
I almost bought a DUKW at auction 43 years ago. It was a running and seaworthy unit. It went stupidly cheap at the time. Not much more than scrap price. I think that was exactly what happened to it. There is a small fleet of these on the streets of San Francisco used for tourism along Fisherman’s Wharf.
Never have I shouted Noooooooooooo, so loud at a computer. The boat comes first.
"A bit poorly" might be the understatement of the century, unless you're looking for a pattern of how to rebuild one from scratch.
Run far and run fast! DUKWs were basically a cab over deuce and a half truck with a floatation body built around it. They were designed with an anticipated service life of about 45 days in combat, so they weren't very robust even when new. The only thing keeping the water from coming in between the hull and the axles are rubber boots. When one of those fails the water comes in at 600 gallons a minute. No number of bilge pumps will keep it afloat at that point. They're also very slow in the water, about 5 or 6 knots. With the tidal flows in your area, even on a well restored one you would spend a lot of time looking at the same bit of land if you were going against the flow. You'd just as likely find yourself going backwards.
They actually still make them for the tourist industry.a bit longer to get more sight seers in them
If you can weld a lot ,these take a lot of work to fix. The running gear was all GMC 6x6 truck ,for which there are still plenty of parts available 80 years later. But that one is buggered,not just poorly.
All depends on the cost to buy it because if they want more than scrap metal price for it makes it extremely hard to invest any money into it. 60% of it is either already rusted away or will be scrapped and need to be replaced. Your already looking at years of work, moving costs, and tens of thousands of pounds to restore it correctly. But initially my biggest concern would be the purchase price. if you buy it then you have to transport it and you don't want to invest a ton of money in a project that just ends up sitting for another 13 years. I agree that just about anything is salvageable, but the costs have to make sense from the beginning. The condition its in currently, they should just donate to you at this point in the name of saving it. I would love to see it saved but i also accept that the numbers probably won't add up though. Good luck you two and let's see if you can make this SHIP Happen. Love you Simmon and Gemma.
I think it would be a real challenge, but very rewarding. That said you have to finish your boat FIRST.
As much as I LOVE military history, especially WWII, I have to say that this is an enormous project and with all that rust it would be like trying to sew moonbeams to a lace curtain. Even if the mechanics are sound, the body/hull is almost non existent. Personally, I would pass on it. That being said I have to admit that I absolutely thought you two had bitten off way more than you could chew when you bought Sarinda and I quickly learned to never underestimate you guys. Tough call. Cheers! From across the pond in Oregon.
I've bought some basket cases myself and completed them, but this one I would have to say NO, far too gone now. It's nice to save that sort of thing but don't get sidelined by that.
when i was 9 years old, i was in an organization called the sea cadets, and we used to ride in parades in one of those DUKW vehicles and have very fond memories of them. although the last thing that you probably need is yet another project, i have to applaud your willingness to consider such a formidable task. besides, what could possibly go wrong?
Sea Cadets in Canajia as well.
@@loginregional And Straya!
To answer that question.... Yes, yes, YES!
I would love to see it restored as my father drove one onto Sword Beach on D-Day. He was in 299Coy RASC. He also went on into Holland after the dykes were breached rescuing civilians and did the Rhine crossing. He loved his DUKW.
At this point I’m certain I’m just piling on, however I haven’t seen several things addressed with certainty.
1) this unit due to its poor condition is a bad candidate.
2) theses were never meant to spend time permanently on the water.
3) there were specific circumstances where these could be used(weather, swell, tide) laid out in military manuals.
4) Civilian operators have removed safety equipment and other accessories and compromised the limited floatation of the vehicle. Without a very experienced hand or detailed drawings and manuals it is likely you would never recover those systems.
The drive system appears fairly complete but without access to parts and components to support it even a fully functional unit would be incredibly expensive to maintain.
You certainly found the appropriate sound track for this tour. A walk through the boneyard of the undead. YIKES! That said - the frame, running gear, wheelhouse (a rare version I believe or greatly modified) seems doable. The hull and presumably deck require completely new fabrication. Considering these crafts were not "streamlined in any way, fabrication is simple enough. Determine the length of the longest body panel and you'll know the shear length. A press brake of the same length and some welding gear and your good to go. The shear & brake capacity won't be an issue because the hulls were light gage. I would wager that Simon and his mates could get it running and driving (not safely, but driving). Then the question; is would the hull fall off the frame OR can it be transported on flatbed to dry storage. I would crowd fund the restoration as we in the US have done with 2 WW2 PT Boats. Value as it sits? $500 US max. You'd be doing them a favor clearing it off the lot. Can you find any history on that particular hull? How did it wind up in the UK? Left on one of the beaches during an amphibious invasion? Which one? etc.
as far as I know, the DUKW wasn't in service for long before D-day, so it might be around the same age as Sarinda. about the parts: it is basically a GMC CCKW with a hull welded around it, later versions had a central tire-inflation system, this helped them drive ashore on gravel shores. another benefit is that there are museums that could help you with pictures. the real question is if you enjoy doing bodywork. and when it comes to amphibious vehicles, remember that they are like bathtubs, so leave them out in the rain and they will fill up with water and will rot before your eyes. and you could try to preserve the DUKW in it's current condition, so that you can work on it later (when Sarinda is weathertight, for instance)
Brilliant that you want to save it!
They do say that a boat is just a hole in the water into which you have to pour an inexhaustible supply of money. You’ve already got one of those and you are doing a fantastic job of bringing her back to life.
This DUKW would, I think be a similar hole in the water, with the additional benefit of being a hole in the land also demanding money and an even bigger hole in time. Your time!
I’m afraid I agree with those who say save Sarinda first. Or you’ll drive yourself nuts!
Although you could fix up that hull with oak and copper nails. Will epoxy stick oak to rusty steel? Now there’s a challenge!
Good luck. I know you’ll do just what you want, but please don’t overburden yourselves with impossible workloads!
Buy it if you must, but as soon as you get it, submerge it in an oil bath to stop any further rusting until, that is, you get back from your Mediterranean cruise on board Sarinda
John
1 minute in and fuck me that's not getting supplies to Sarinda any time soon, but it would be a hell of an interesting project!
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Honestly folks, I think its a bit far gone and would probably take up far too much of your time forcing you to decide between restoring Sarinda or it.
That being said, it does need saving and I do admire you both for even considering it.
Would I buy a rusty WW2 DUKW???? Errrrrr hell yeah I would!! A friend of mine restored one just in time for the 75th anniversary of the D-Day landings, the difference from before to after was amazing, it was just rotting away beforehand, another piece of history saved!
i think it is better when you concentrate on your boat first , and only then find another fantastic project like that. Lots of love to you both ! Love your videos ! ( if you have somewhere to store the duck -then buy it i love it ! ) x
" Fix under carriage keeping engine dry ? " wartime code , my first and last thought . 😂
The question is are they selling it or just want it out of the way.
If they will give it to you or sell at scrap price minus the transport cost, take it.
Put it out the back and make a small shed to keep it dry to preserve whats left. It looks like the chassis and running gear is all there and salvageable, and thats the important bit.
You can then make up your mind later without having spent anything. You can fix it or recover the cost in scrap value, or pass it onto someone who will fix it or is looking for parts to fix another one.
Just don't take it and start to work on it now. You've got your hands more than full enough already.
Basically, what you have is the opportunity to put off its demise until you are ready to take it on, scrap it or use it to save another one.
I’ve seen a worse one without an engine. These were thrown together and then float tested, as it sunk the workers would fit bilge pumps unit it stopped sinking then they would send it out for action. The tyres had a self deflate and inflate attachment so they could get out of soft sand on the beach. The frame and bits of running gear are probably the only things you will salvage. The body is gone. If you like grinding and sanding then go for it. I would but my wife would shoot me again so buying another project. If you know a good metal workshop with shot blaster, shears, brake press and welding equipment then you’re laughing. But working wood and metal in your workshop isn’t recommended. Good luck with whatever you decide
As a lifelong career of welding and fabrication(50+years), I advise you to not take on this project. It's too far gone, and no parts are readily available. The boat is a big enough project for you guys, and it's amazing what you have accomplished so far. Love the show!!!
Very little is ever "too far gone" and that certainly isn't. It will, however, be at least as big a project as Sarinda and probably will not be, when finished, as pleasurable to own and use - DUKWs have "a reputation", if you know what I mean. That said, if it could be stored under cover until Sarinda is finished it would definitely be a worthwhile enterprise.
I totally understand your feelings on saving history but personally feel it may be a commitment too far right now
as an older guy I would finish the boat and any surprises left to find there before splitting my attention onto another unknown
that said you are both very capable and driven
also ONLY you can really know what you have left in the tank!
a tricky problem for sure
but am equally sure you will make the best decision for yourselves as a couple
thanks for sharing and have a great day
best wishes
There are still a few around, some as tourist trip "boats" in different harbours & rivers around the world.
If it's still around when you finish Sarinda have another look, there are military vehicle nutters around who will have a look at it, and some may even have the time and resources to do a full rebuild.
Been on one in Boston, albeit 25 years ago.
Oh no, please don't do it, that's way too far gone! I get the heart string pulling bit but that's a lifetime of work and you've already got a massive ongoing project on your hands, but of course big respect for you two on what you're already doing and accomplished so far. One step at a time 🤞👍
I'm the type of person who gives EVERYTHING a personality. I truly do not like seeing someone hurting including animals. I pet my car, boat and RV, they, too, are part of my family. I can remember my father telling me that I can't save everyone or everything. It breaks my heart to walk away from projects like boats, etc. I would never walk away from a person or pet. I believe in you two and know you will do what is right in your heart!
Great idea and yes it could be restored. I've done a CCKW 353 and a few others. BUT, you could buy a running/floating one for less then you will spend restoring that beast. They come up for sale all the time. As someone else here said, one project at a time. Particularity ones that you can climb into. Good Luck.
To start, you 2 I really enjoy your commitment to bringing back to life your boat and as you say "keeping alive a part of history" but some things are an Everest to climb and this dukw is, I restore old cars and at the moment a Land Rover 101 forward control military vehicle from the 70's , and so from my experience looking at that dukw, that is one hell of a job to bring back to life, if it was an amphibious vehicle you wanted, I would plumb for an alvis stalwart with a hiab, anyway keep up the great work and the vids 😉
What upsets me is seeing classic cars/whatever sitting in a field rotting and the owner wanting stupid money only to then drive by 10 years later to still see it sitting there.
If the price is right I’d be tempted. Chassis looks good and that old 270 GMC would run forever. Even if it doesn’t come back as a DUKW it is similar drivetrain and chassis to a G508 truck so could go on to live as a donor for one.
You Can buy these used or rebuilt in usa , they are used in many cities as tourist attractions, Boston , Philadelphia ( until one sank killing a tourist) and many others .
A landing craft would be a much better boat for sirenda.
It looks like it was under water for some time, its way to far gone to be saved. The whole hull would have to be remade all the mechanical bits would have to be rebuilt or replaced with modern parts because getting parts for it is next to impossible. it would be easier and faster to build an amphibious vehicle from scratch then it would be to restore that thing.
I love watching you two from Oregon. Maybe I am spoiled by the lack of iron cancer here? But, WOW! I've seen you two work miracles on Sarinda and your fishing boat. Truly impressive! But, I worry, like the rest of the commentary, that you're trying to rescue a Yankee that is going to steal your attention from Sarinda. She is worth your full attention. In the words of Doctor Who, RUN!
That is not a restoration project, it's a ground up reconstruction project with a LOT of new parts required !
Buy it, put it in a dry safe storage place and work on it as and when you feel like it. No rush, no timeframes. What's the worst that can happen? if you don't get it finished then resell her. At least you tried.
I’ve been watching since episode one, and I thought you was mighty brave taking on such a project; and if I’m being honest, I thought you’d taken on too much, but you proved me wrong in the first few episodes, so I’m confident in your ability, but I question the time and effort needed, especially along side the work on Sarinda, and I’m not sure that thing will be much more than dust if it had to wait until the first project is finished lol
It's a basket case; run like Hell. One further point: I think you might find it's not much good as a tender - these DUKWs are best launched and retrieved from firm sand or a concrete ramp and with the mud of the estuary I suspect you run the risk of getting quickly and permanently bogged down. Otherwise it's fine :D
Please for the love of God let that one die. There were 21K of these made and there are many in much better condition. There was a tour company that used these for amphibious tours and the locals HATED them with a passion.
I like the idea of restoring old, unusual things but the dukw is beyond any sense. I can't see any part that wouldn't need to be replaced, I'm afraid if anyone were to attempt that job they would have something comparable to Triggers broom. It is really a scrapper as there is hardly anything to salvage.
Keep away from it. Their are still lots about. The engine and running gear could be sold to keep the others running.
Hi guys...please don't go there, it might be the straw that breaks the camels back. We really enjoy your weekly vlogs and your boat is so interesting along with your fabulous skills. Don't get distracted you already have a lot of balls in the air. Kids, work, fun together. You are both awesome...Gemma stop looking on Gumtree you rascal. Cheers Mike and Raewyn NZ...we will try to visit in Aug on our UK trip. Don't change what you are doing we love our weekly catch ups.
as a mechanic and body man first look was run run run but as you have said yes can it be rebuilt well yes it can but it's going to take a long time as you have basically got to start from scratch with the body basically making a new one the mechanics look pretty good a good clean up and strip down would get it running again if it did drive in in 2010 then the gearbox and drive system will still be ok the engine as long as the water hasn't got into the cylinders and rotted out the bores then that will run again may need an overhaul I think it's an old GM 6 cylinder a 5.6 litre or bigger it may even be a 4.2 but I doubt it the parts will still be able to get hold of them in the states and maybe over here or replace it with an old Bedford 6 cylinder which is basically the same but turn it into a diesel cheaper to run but its going to be a massive task and I am sure you will get plenty of help to rebuild her when and if you start her as I am getting to know you pair of lovely people if you took it on it would get done and it would be a piece of history saved but I saw the look on simons face which would of been the same as mine run as its a monumental task but serinder was just the same and look at her now yes from the outside she looks very tatty but the inside of the hull she looks like new so I know you to can do it so knowing you to I would say go for it why the hell not so buy her and save a bit f history and it will make a great channel to watch you to rebuild her as well so BUY HER thats my opinion.
They are death traps, walk away. In fact, run away. One recently sank in Liverpool docks on a flat calm day. A friend of my parents restored one about fifty years ago. He took it out on the sea from Southport beach for the first time and immediately got rid of it! He said it was the most unseaworthy thing he'd ever been out on.
I did and am having fun doing it. I have met people all over the world while searching for parts and I’ve had great luck finding what I need. I’m two years into it and I will be driving it on its first mission on Memorial Day in the US. Agreed that it’s not the least expensive vehicle to own and maintain, but it’s certainly not the most expensive.
This will test your metal fabrication skills if you want to bring it back to life
My suggestion; finish your curent projects first and then look if you still have the energy, money and time to take on something like the duck. And I think it's to far gone to make it any valuable WWII object with hardly no spare parts to be found to make it a nearly original
I don’t think that is so much a restore project as a total rebuild project. You can’t take responsibility for it. It’s like finding old boat ribs in the mud and deciding you have to restore it or nobody will. Some things are just too far gone. On the other hand I will wish you luck and follow along if you decide to go for it.
I agree: its a "bit" to far gone for a unique fixer-upper opportunity... BUT, if it's destined for the scrap heap, get sections of sheetmetal from it and have keychain sized rubber duck (DUKW) silhouettes CNC cut from them and sell to further support Sarinda. You'd get to hold a piece of history and help keep a wooden boat on the sunny side of the water.
That would be a bigger build than Tally Ho but in metal
Having help my friends restore several classic muscle cars I'm pretty savy to what it takes to do this kind of work. We are just finishing a 1968 Camaro and we're at around $30,000 not including our labour and 7 years into to it. It was in way better shape that this dukw and we can buy everything we need for it. You are looking at a huge project and there is likely nothing for it you can buy which means manufabbing every single bit and Bob for this. As a guesstimate you are looking at $150,000 or more and 10 to 20 years. There's a group over there in the UK that restore tanks and military vehicles. They had a show on BBC about what they do. They are all highly experienced at it and it still takes them 10 to 15 years to finish a project.
My advice is, RUN FOREST RUN. If it was in better shape then maybe but with Sarinda and the side projects you guy do come up with I think you'd be do a disservice to Sarinda. Focus on her till you get her done then look for another project.
sad to see how rusted away it is
I think its a Big no for this one.
You won't need metal, wood, rubber,canvas, perspex etc etc. You will need a magic wand and that's what you require to take this on, unless you are best friends with Harry Potter you ain't getting one. Stick to what you are doing reviving the old girl. The DUKW would be better serving her sisters as a spare parts done. She's served her country, time to let her rest now... Keep up the good work on Sarinda and if you really want to save a wartime peice of History restore Her back to original ML1392, she's more than worth it.... Keep up the fantastic work you're doing, respect.
Doing the DUKW would be a whole other level of crazy. Don't go with the heart on this one. Run away. Very fast.
Easier to start from scratch, salvaging anything useful of course. If only they'd used galvanised panels!
Do it it's only a vehicle
Good welder can do anything 💪
It’s not poorly. It’s died and is decomposing, they just forgot to bury it!
Sarinda is one of a few left of a handful made. DUKW were mass produced and there’s plenty of them still round, all around the coast of UK, North America and Europe. This is one conservation that you don’t need to do. It’s toast for that one. There’s plenty more. Their place in the present is already assured.
Good for parts only and it would definitely need to be very very cheap. Do you have a lot of spare time? If you want a DUKW go and buy one that runs and drives that you can have fun with.
Please do not attempt to rescue this amphibious vehicle. Your plates are full and your coffer is taxed in the restoration of Sarinda. There are plenty of restored and restorable amphibious vehicles here in the US. Keep up the wonderful work that you are doing on Sarinda, I love watching!
2 far gone if not a WW2 collector would have grabbed it by now. That is pretty much a full rebuild from the only good part, the chassie.
People thought you were crazy for taking on a wooden boat project of that magnitude but you prove them wrong. This is a piece of military history and it deserves to be saved no matter how rough it looks
You are already over-committed for time and resources and the amphibian would be a 10 year project even if you had a dedicated workshop with heavy sheet metal working equipment and full mechanical and machining facilities. I have taken on huge projects like your boat and the amphibian all my life and now in my late sixties one of the things I have learnt is that not stretching your self too thin is the secret of success because otherwise you never get anything finished . You are correct in thinking it would be useful and if it was functional and not a basket case buying it might make sense. Being concerned about the loss of the history has to be put in perspective - You can not solve all the worlds problems and trying to do so may well mean neither of your projects gets finished. Really enjoy you videos and appreciate the effort you are putting in.
I saw one many decades ago, used by Lord St Levan to get to and from his tidal island home on St Michael's Mount in Cornwall (didn't matter if the tide was in or out). I had an amphibious ride in one during an Armed Services week in the early sixties in Plymouth. I recognised the typical "Bedford whine" immediately.
Even if it ran and drove perfect, the structure is too far gone.I’m sure there’s one in a museum somewhere to keep the history alive I’d say a hard no,let it go. Thanks John from Arizona
It is undeniably, a big project. The sheet metal is looks to be completely wasted, but if the frame and powertrain are decent, that's a good starting point. I'm no expert, but DUKW parts might not be as impossible to find as some other equipment from that era, as a lot of these were and still are in civilian use. Boston has a fleet of them offering Duck Tours.
I hate to say this, but that is one very dead DUKW, the only thing I would buy that for is to drain any oils grease or anything that would contaminate where I would store it and that is in the sea as fish and marine life habitat, there are plenty WW2 originals in lots of museums all across America, the only thing on that rust is the sign, to rebuild this vehicle you would have to actually build an entirely new vehicle thus not saving this war hero at all, please think about it.
What a great coronation piece. .Grab a beer and say. .What the hell .In for penny what's a few extra million pounds. Lol
Dont be distracted from the bigger picture ...Sarinda is the big picture, and deserves your unswerving attention. That dukw looks like a money pit...
Those death traps, even when perfectly restored, kill passengers at a pretty impressive rate. In the US at least they're popular in coastal cities for tourism, but Lord almighty there'a a high attrition rate.
Vehicles don't have accidents and kill people, it's the idiots behind the wheel that do that!
Yes. There are some scary videos on CZcams. :(
yeah, deathtraps. Even when repaired.
We lost a few tourists in an accident here in Philadelphia. Couldn't get me on one for anything.
@@suburban404 I remember. A young Romanian couple. I was on a tug further downriver that day. The captain that hit them was on the phone with his child's oncology office, and distracted. Awful all around.
Ask “Master Milo in Holland, he let it float again🤘🏼
You can still buy these in working condition... At least on this side of the pond. It looks to me that you would have to completely replace every part. Probably not worth it... Unless it's free.
"A bit poorly" has got to be the understatement of the century. This looks like a heap of junk, with a huge amount of steel just gone missing entirely.
Finish boat first. This looks like a complete rebuild!
They have a propensity for sinking, and that amount of rust is a massive jib, it would out Sarinda back years. Leave it alone, there re a number of them working around the world there are only 2 Sarindas
Those Duck Boats are cool but the price of steel its only worth the good parts it has ! Thats truly a parts machine !
A boat is a hole in the water into which you pour money, to keep the water from filling the hole. One thing going for Surinda (sp?) is that it seems to keep the sea out and is a piece of sheer craftsmanship.
Save history one ship at a time, would be my view, or you may end up saving neither.
You have already projected that you could be several more years on Surinda.
Go with your head. Sometimes the head must rule the heart.
More than 20,000 DUKWs were built. Others will survive.
Great history, too far gone !! You would be better off with a Alvis Stalwart , thanks for sharing 👍
As it stands I dont think she is going to float. Such a sorry state, they are worth saving but this one would test even the best DIY boat youtubers. very interesting 2x👍
I would. You can't replace history.
With Sarinda you have many pleasurable options when she is made new. With the DUKW, you have massive metal restoration, possible unfixable engines, and when finished, a bad design that never caught on....
I'd say you've done your bit to bring it to peoples attention, its too far gone on top of everything else, seriously you've got enough on your plate with Sarinda, fishing boat, camper business , kids and a life. Love what you are doing already.
"Without crazy people like us there is not going to be much history left in the world is there?" Truer words were never spoken about you too. It is however a very daunting project and while I hate to see it slip away, there are other ones that have been restored and in environments where parts are easier to acquire -- so I would regrettably vote No on this one. Love you guys...
Sad to say I think it’s too far gone 😢
Wow, that is a lot of metal deterioration. Here in New England, the DUKW amphibious 2 1/2 ton truck (we called them "ducks") were used by our Coast Guard after WW2. They would motor down the highway from their station, cross the beach, and enter the ocean for rescue. Today, they have all been sold off. DUKWs are now used to transport tourist groups over the streets of Boston's freedom trail, in Boston Harbor, and on the Charles River. From what I have heard, maintenance costs are high and their performance on both land and sea marginal compared to dedicated boats and trucks. None-the less, they got the military and its equipment off the ships, over the beach, and inland where they needed to be at the time they were needed. There are many more in much better condition.
The Boston duck tour Ducks aren't DUKW; they are "Truck Ducks" with the oldest made in 2006. The only part they share with the DUKW is the quack.
@@michaelardai9703 Thanks. According to the Boston Duck Tours site: "On August 7, 2014, Boston Duck Tours retired its last remaining original World War II DUKW from regularly-scheduled tours. As of 2015 all regular tours are conducted on replica DUKWs that are larger and easier to repair than the original vehicles, and run on bio diesel". I do not know how many true DUKWs are left "in the wild".
There are some in Boston Massachusetts that take people on tours. They are always fixing them, and the parts would be great to keep other ones going.
For the right price, I would do it for sure.
But it depends all on what they want for it.
The money needs to make sense so you can always back off from it.
A big distraction and expense taken away from Sarinda. It's basically a GMC truck encased in a sheet steel body. They even leaked when they were new. I've seen less holes in a trawler net. Somebody will buy it for the mechanical parts to restore possibly a GMC truck from WW2 or another DKUW. So it wont be totally lost, but I'm with you on trying to preserve stuff like this. Some of the WW2 re enactment weekend shows wold be worth a look to see restored DKUW's. They would also be a good platform for promoting Sarindas restoration.
The problem with stuff like this is what will you use it for? Impractical big, both to drive and store. It's a big vehicle that can sail. But is probably not really good at neither, drive on roads and sailing on water. Kind of like restoring a road scraper, a lot of effort into something that has a very limited and specific use.
It would have be handled as a construction project where most of the work is outsourced to a good local fabrication shop. Financing would be the key. A project manager would be really important.