HooXi Finally Gets Benched / f0rest's comeback? - Snake & Banter 62 ft NartOutHere

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  • čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
  • Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by content creator "NartOutHere" to discuss HooXi's benching on G2, TeSeS staying at Heroic, rumors of HeavyGod joining Cloud9, f0rest's lack of recent competitive play, jL's statements during recent interviews, the ugly situation regarding ICY, and more.
    NartOutHere's CZcams channel:‪@nartouthere‬
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    Snake & Banter is a Counter-Strike talk show, hosted by Duncan "Thorin" Shields and Alex "Mauisnake" Ellenberg, themed around each individual selecting a good, bad and ugly topic to discuss.
    This video was recorded on July 1st, 2024.
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    0:00:00 - Intro
    0:05:35 - NartOutHere's good point (Heroic keep TeSeS)
    0:14:35 - Mauisnake's good point (HeavyGod to Cloud9 rumors)
    0:21:53 - Thorin's good point (HooXi benched by G2)
    0:40:59 - NartOutHere's bad point (CS offseason timing)
    0:50:39 - Mauisnake's bad point (f0rest isn't competing)
    1:05:23 - Thorin's bad point (jL's recent interviews)
    1:18:08 - NartOutHere's ugly point (ICY x Cloud9 x AMKAL situation)
    1:28:08 - Mauisnake's ugly point (Kjaerbye joins JiJieHao)
    1:35:23 - Thorin's ugly point (CS community doesn't appreciate content)
    #CS2
    #podcast
    #Thorin
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Komentáře • 129

  • @nartouthere
    @nartouthere Před 12 dny +249

    Thanks for having me on Thorin and Maui!

    • @tech4172
      @tech4172 Před 12 dny +2

      Gj nart

    • @aero5098
      @aero5098 Před 12 dny +7

      Love your content nart, plz come on more podcasts love hearing you talk cs ! ❤

    • @gregorbensa
      @gregorbensa Před 9 dny

      everything good but I don't agree with your bad point as valve just corrected this by having the major as the last event of the season from shanghai major forward

  • @mojommmm
    @mojommmm Před 12 dny +81

    i’m still dying over “vitality should pick up niko as an IGL”

    • @borofreak
      @borofreak Před 11 dny

      The way that's been framed, I hope everyone understands that it's not his sister who cause this, but his decision to attend her wedding. Because it's still a decision he can make.
      UNLESS he already knew about this, which would make it an easy choice to attend it if he's already out.

  • @EntrEsprit
    @EntrEsprit Před 12 dny +85

    I can't believe Hooxi sister's wedding basically just got him benched

    • @johankaku
      @johankaku Před 12 dny

      Destiny 😂

    • @singular9
      @singular9 Před 12 dny +1

      Key thing, it was all part of the plan.

    • @Husqiy
      @Husqiy Před 12 dny +5

      Sister was getting sick of it and got married to cut him

    • @mikeadams6036
      @mikeadams6036 Před 12 dny

      I think Hooxi's calling and play for the last 6 months is what got him benched, the wedding just determined his replacement

    • @EntrEsprit
      @EntrEsprit Před 12 dny +1

      ​@@mikeadams6036 yeah obviously his performance is what caused it, but it's still funny how G2 winning the tourney in this exact moment became the turning point for their management to finally commit to that decision lol

  • @15lp15
    @15lp15 Před 12 dny +34

    we need an emergency episode on the snax signing!

  • @Dean_AZN
    @Dean_AZN Před 12 dny +29

    -Hooxin +Snax is actually wild

    • @juanframetallica82
      @juanframetallica82 Před 12 dny +3

      Got better fragging but worse calling. This move can backfire massively

    • @aa4a-a4
      @aa4a-a4 Před 12 dny

      I like snax but he's not that good of a caller

    • @cm386464
      @cm386464 Před 12 dny

      Taz 🤷

    • @TYLERLOVESBMX1
      @TYLERLOVESBMX1 Před 11 dny

      @@juanframetallica82 have you seen GL's roster? youre delusional

    • @zettour.
      @zettour. Před 11 dny

      ​@@juanframetallica82You can't get much worse calling than HooXi. He's got good strats, but I'd rather ask the 8-ball sticker than go to HooXi for what to do in a midround. The first 10 seconds of a round decide it for G2 as a team, unless m0NESY/NiKo put up a multikill. Absolutely clueless at developing a round, reading opposing teams, or calling around his players. G2's No. 1 issue since Day 1 has been the teamwork and at least half of that is due to the piss poor calling. With HooXi at the helm, G2 have never looked like they had any idea what any of their players are doing at any point in time. Move him to coach where he belongs.
      Also, Snax didn't have much time with the new GL roster. The old roster was doing nothing. I've seen people criticize GL's T-side, but that's ignoring that their Top 3 maps are Overpass, Nuke, and Ancient. That's the Top 3 most CT-sided maps in the pool right now. Not everyone can be peak Astralis where you just have an unbeatable T-side Nuke, a map where the only control T-side has is Lobby.

  • @thijmenvanderkolk9033
    @thijmenvanderkolk9033 Před 12 dny +34

    2nd favorite podcast behind htpm

  • @FelixKaff
    @FelixKaff Před 12 dny +46

    Oh.. I thought it was Dexter joining in..
    It was Nart. XD

  • @josephadcock7449
    @josephadcock7449 Před 12 dny +8

    Oh my god G2 Snax

  • @wraethcs2
    @wraethcs2 Před 12 dny +4

    Dexter, the kids called, they miss you back down under!

  • @outkripper8272
    @outkripper8272 Před 12 dny +2

    Awesome seeinng Nart with these guys!

  • @paradoxofgodexisting
    @paradoxofgodexisting Před 11 dny +3

    Nart: Thorin, you honestly intimidate me. 😟
    Also Nart after every other joke: 😐 poker 😐 fakin 😐 face 😐

  • @fyroe
    @fyroe Před 12 dny +6

    Thorins metaphors were out of pocket in this one 😂

  • @ims0ul
    @ims0ul Před 12 dny +4

    I am now calling it: Liquid HooXi
    Edit: Welcome fnatic f0rest and cadian?

  • @zertbrown4642
    @zertbrown4642 Před 12 dny +1

    whoa I didnt expect nartouthere to be on the podcast

  • @itscipher
    @itscipher Před 12 dny +1

    i didn’t expect a zach lowe reference today! 2 of my worlds crossing over was cool to listen to. nice show

  • @swimmingchicken7254
    @swimmingchicken7254 Před 11 dny +2

    Nart: With... Hooxi... if you look at his numbers... there like... all red...

    • @Alex_zer0_Shoveller
      @Alex_zer0_Shoveller Před 11 dny +1

      he does nade lineup videos, which isn’t really podcast material i guess
      i was hoping he’d have more input but it was a 2 man podcast

  • @ArthurStephenHicks
    @ArthurStephenHicks Před 12 dny

    On the topic of content, I’m glad we have such a plethora of great content and talk shows. Most of it being at least somewhat tangentially connected to Thorin and RL.

  • @beamer_boi
    @beamer_boi Před 12 dny +3

    i needed this rn

  • @brajjko
    @brajjko Před 12 dny +1

    Bro when thoorin said about G2 "im guessing their next player is an igl, im just guessing". We all knew he had info 😂. What a king.

  • @nevalscisiruj3607
    @nevalscisiruj3607 Před 12 dny +17

    As a regular viewer of the show, I am disappointed with Nart's appearance as a guest in this episode. He wasn't very communicative and didn't willingly involve himself in the conversation. Additionally, he didn't thoroughly elaborate on his points, which often led to awkward silence as Thorin and Maui expected him to say more.

    • @Xman-tp7bp
      @Xman-tp7bp Před 12 dny +9

      He is a more reserved person and this is one of his first appearances on a podcast. He will get better the more podcasts he appears on.

    • @vinceington2540
      @vinceington2540 Před 11 dny +1

      True. Being reserved etc. is OK but elaborate your fucking point man. It is the concept of the (any...?) show.

    • @danboing3864
      @danboing3864 Před 11 dny

      It's unfortunate but expected if you've ever seen any of his free-flow content (Pick Em videos, his own podcasts, patch reactions, etc). He just has a problem with expanding on anything.

    • @vinceington2540
      @vinceington2540 Před 11 dny

      @@danboing3864 yeah thats all fine and maybe hes the nicest guy ever but don't bring him into a show where the whole purpose is to articulate your thoughts then?!

    • @danboing3864
      @danboing3864 Před 11 dny

      @@vinceington2540 "Expected *if you've ever seen any of his free-flow content* ". If we look at that list, realistically how much of it has Thorin seen? I really, really doubt that he watches Nart's Pick Em videos or patch reactions, and the only podcast I can think of of Nart's Thorin might have seen is that one on women in esports he's referenced a couple of times on BTN/other shows in a comedic sense because it had like 15 women and then Anders on the panel for some reason.

  • @MusicJunkie37
    @MusicJunkie37 Před 12 dny +2

    Another Snake & Banger 🔥

  • @BiggestBrainBro
    @BiggestBrainBro Před 12 dny +22

    Nart was really bad on this podcast. Please no more. He added nothing and legit just wasn’t following the convo and had to ask you what your question was multiple times.

    • @gwendoll5578
      @gwendoll5578 Před 12 dny +1

      @@BiggestBrainBro you can be more encouraging to someone who is new to this dick head

  • @BMJYDK
    @BMJYDK Před 12 dny

    Good show as always, Nart a fab guest too.

  • @NadesOutHere
    @NadesOutHere Před 11 dny

    legendary, great episode 🔥🔥🔥

  • @alac431
    @alac431 Před 12 dny +1

    Finally I know who is constantly commenting on all CS content

  • @michaelwence690
    @michaelwence690 Před 12 dny +3

    Aren’t the majors going forward going to be the last tournament before the player break (tournament break). Pretty sure that’s been known for a while now. This should’ve been an ugly point since the schedule got scuffed due to the release timing of CS2. Therefore we didn’t get a fall/winter major in 2023 and we got an early Major for 2024. But that all gets straightened out by Shanghai. And by 2025 things should be smooth.

    • @csCherry
      @csCherry Před 11 dny

      Bit of a moot point yes.

  • @josephdegrazia9028
    @josephdegrazia9028 Před 12 dny +2

    I'd love to see f0rest back in action on a legit lineup but it doesnt help his case that his latest tweets are about him competing in apex haha

  • @fVNzO
    @fVNzO Před 12 dny +1

    exceedingly rare tremendously based mauisnake segment

  • @Yougotbaited24
    @Yougotbaited24 Před 12 dny +3

    Nart looks like Dexter’s little brother

  • @astar2394
    @astar2394 Před 10 dny

    Thorin calling maui a norbert day trader is one of the funniest things ive heard in a while

  • @72hrs_vermithor
    @72hrs_vermithor Před 12 dny +2

    Maui glorious as always

  • @dave23122
    @dave23122 Před 11 dny +2

    nart didnt have much to say 😮

  • @MrStefan1221
    @MrStefan1221 Před 11 dny

    40:59 Valve could "force" a player break by installing a period of a month after the majors where tournaments don't count towards the Valve ranking. They would have to announce this a couple of years in advance together with the new majors so there can be planned around it

  • @Isitar
    @Isitar Před 12 dny

    Great vid, thx - so true the reflections on content creators - lol, but also sad.

  • @AngelAsianMusic
    @AngelAsianMusic Před 12 dny

    you needed to wait just a few hours to include snax as IGL in this episode

  • @evanroy4143
    @evanroy4143 Před 12 dny

    Yeah nartouthere is a crucial resource

  • @MrAkshat1998
    @MrAkshat1998 Před 12 dny +1

    Fire content

  • @SuggishFish
    @SuggishFish Před 12 dny +3

    world class banana-taker like niko

  • @renaldasp1
    @renaldasp1 Před 11 dny

    "The Best There Is, the Best There Was, the Best There Ever Will Be" - jL, talking about Thorin

  • @yume8666
    @yume8666 Před 12 dny +1

    LMAO Thorin again uploading a podcast right before another roster move

  • @blink2665
    @blink2665 Před 12 dny +2

    Snax for the vibes

  • @dunemeister5718
    @dunemeister5718 Před 10 dny

    I wish By the Numbers was still around for a live reaction to Hussein and Osama

  • @unquietvoid
    @unquietvoid Před 10 dny

    zoolander jl skit idea had me creasin

  • @dayne6475
    @dayne6475 Před 12 dny +1

    Kjaerbye already played for Jijihao before he had his showmatch, no?

  • @MusicJunkie37
    @MusicJunkie37 Před 12 dny +2

    W for the f0rest topic

  • @pkftw4166
    @pkftw4166 Před 12 dny

    I thought they were getting NartInHere. But this Out guy is better.

  • @mauriciobetimpaesleme8702
    @mauriciobetimpaesleme8702 Před 14 hodinami

    41:42 We need a Transfer Window... after a couple of months roster are locked until the next transfer window.
    In football you have player break and transfer window, that is a much better way of telling teams, you have X amount of time to see if you need to make a desperate move after that, work it out.

  • @vaneakristiuk888
    @vaneakristiuk888 Před 12 dny

    Nart seems to be cool guy!

  • @louiecs2
    @louiecs2 Před 12 dny

    W guests!

  • @ErikSWE
    @ErikSWE Před 8 dny

    Don’t know who NartOutHere but coming on a show and barely even listen to what the hosts are talking about less so engage with their points or add his own was certainly a choice.

  • @rahuliyer-x1j
    @rahuliyer-x1j Před 12 dny

    Oh my word.. Nart! hahahaha great

  • @radrussian3289
    @radrussian3289 Před 9 dny

    mentioning zorte is so funny

  • @nadesun7075
    @nadesun7075 Před 11 dny

    Daytrading norbert is crazy

  • @alexcollazo7796
    @alexcollazo7796 Před 12 dny

    Nart, hardworking as always. You have made it 🎉

  • @piosab
    @piosab Před 12 dny

    Nart my GOAT

  • @AndyChatsFPL
    @AndyChatsFPL Před 11 dny +1

    This guest has less opinions than my fucking dog lol

  • @givemeajackson
    @givemeajackson Před 11 dny

    the optimism in this episode is hilarious. "anybody is gonna be an upgrade over hooxi for G2, they're gonna go far from here" 3 hours later and they announce... snax????

  • @WreveAU
    @WreveAU Před 12 dny +2

    Comment for the algorithm

  • @kalisti2323
    @kalisti2323 Před 12 dny +2

    f0rest to fnatic, I'd be watching every game!

    • @KeefeL
      @KeefeL Před 12 dny +1

      Assuming they either get invited or make it to the bigger tournies...!

  • @Viper4975
    @Viper4975 Před 11 dny

    This is for sure going down in history as the most unprepared and nervous guest on snb and thats only because locodoco isnt in this scene

  • @NicholasEllis-rs3nx
    @NicholasEllis-rs3nx Před 12 dny +1

    Stopped listening at Shelfey for 500k

  • @tvrment
    @tvrment Před 12 dny

    l miss norbertpass :_(

  • @EXiLExJD
    @EXiLExJD Před 12 dny +7

    Nice to see Nart on a podcast, hope he does more

    • @illastration1
      @illastration1 Před 12 dny +11

      I don't know who he is but I don't think was a good format for him. He was just making an objective statement and then stopping. Not even giving his opinion. Thorin and Maui paused waiting for his opinion that never came...

    • @Kirbydreaming
      @Kirbydreaming Před 12 dny +3

      @@illastration1 No charisma no nothing..... boring guest.

  • @Hornnnnnn
    @Hornnnnnn Před 12 dny

    let us praise the g2 management for just farming topics for these shows.

  • @minibeech03
    @minibeech03 Před 12 dny

    to be fair kjaerby and cadian really try harded in the copenhagen show match against ecstatic. Like they really shit on them.

  • @xxSportsxxProxx
    @xxSportsxxProxx Před 12 dny

    Nart❤

  • @nameonelast598
    @nameonelast598 Před 12 dny

    Just commented to state how disappointed I am with G2 picking up Snax

  • @ThxKira
    @ThxKira Před 11 dny

    snax to g2 LMAO i need the new episode up

  • @imik_plays
    @imik_plays Před 12 dny

    I watch because of Nart

  • @zizzyballuba4373
    @zizzyballuba4373 Před 12 dny +10

    JL_1_Major vs Th-0-majors-rin

  • @floofy1
    @floofy1 Před 9 dny +1

    lol i never want to see this Nart guy on last free nation ever again. A hltv faceit level 7 probably knows more about cs, than him. Thorin if you're reading, the next time you think of getting Nart as a guest. you might as well pick any faceit 10 from hltv, or just pick me, im faceit 9 atm with only 175 matches (spend most of my time watching and following pro cs scene). I can do 8 times better than this guy. also have 13 years of cs experience (on and off cause irl commitments)

  • @Hornnnnnn
    @Hornnnnnn Před 12 dny

    Snax pulling up to play with m0nesy after being a bum for 6 years

  • @LinhLe-rs7fr
    @LinhLe-rs7fr Před 12 dny +2

    Guys pack it up. Half of the CS shows now have nothing to talk about after HooXi is kicked!

    • @georgbergsten6050
      @georgbergsten6050 Před 12 dny +3

      -snax will be the new thing don't worry

    • @aa4a-a4
      @aa4a-a4 Před 12 dny

      ​@@georgbergsten6050g2 gotta keep the content coming

  • @luckstur
    @luckstur Před 12 dny

    W

  • @LshowKnows
    @LshowKnows Před 7 dny

    27:22 What Nart said was simply complete bs... Not only do they have essentially the same stats, Hooxi literally has multiple moments (specially back in Kato and Cologne) where he won G2 important rounds, heck he even carried them against Navi on Anubis this last major where Hunter and Niko decided to take a nap. No offense to Nat, but his statement was basically a copy paste of reddit comments made by people who never actually watch the games

  • @emanueljohansson4895
    @emanueljohansson4895 Před 12 dny

    Man I love thoorin, but honestly, stop bashing JL. JL is just a wholesome guy vibing in cs community.

  • @cutile1472
    @cutile1472 Před 12 dny

    .

  • @smartex5651
    @smartex5651 Před 11 dny

    Ye ye hooxi finally benched and they got snax.... just bring back hooxi PL is just permanent loss

  • @singular9
    @singular9 Před 12 dny

    Hooxi is not a tactician, he simply knew top tier team weaknesses and exploited them. These were things that always existed and no one noticed.
    Today, 50% of these tactics do not work anymore and the other 50% are so simple that even faceit pugs use them.

  • @SoulReaper66623
    @SoulReaper66623 Před 12 dny +1

    typical low confidence hapa, using "like" every 3 words. exhausting to listen to

  • @mikestar7326
    @mikestar7326 Před 12 dny

    Thorin needs learn how to let other people talk

    • @illastration1
      @illastration1 Před 12 dny +1

      He was trying to get the guest to talk but the guy had nothing to say...

    • @bomsta1433
      @bomsta1433 Před 12 dny +1

      He did much better than the last episode with Spunj