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  • @SportsCardInvestor
    @SportsCardInvestor  Před 9 dny +10

    Submit your own cards for PSA Grading at discount prices: www.sportscardinvestor.com/grading

    • @KP-AC
      @KP-AC Před 9 dny

      Geoff, they grade it authentic when they think it’s been cleaned or altered some how. Happened to me, that’s what they told me when I reached out. Now we have moron PSA graders thinking they are doing forensic chemical testing with their eyes and just saying ok authentic.

    • @Cc-33380
      @Cc-33380 Před 9 dny +1

      Go next year to the nationals

    • @Cc-33380
      @Cc-33380 Před 9 dny

      Can you send me a basketball slab?

    • @LocalCoinReview
      @LocalCoinReview Před 9 dny

      Geoff. I love your accent, your ss's are so funny, you are fun to watch. Keep up the good work

    • @ieatkittinz
      @ieatkittinz Před 9 dny

      Look again on the Michael Harris 7 grade card. Corners look awful on the bottom.

  • @Kimurakev
    @Kimurakev Před 9 dny +34

    bro looked like he was ready to fight the next PSA employee on sight 😅😫

  • @MichaelIp
    @MichaelIp Před 9 dny +45

    Your reaction to the two authentics and the 7 is pretty much me after every PSA order. I'm amazed you were able to stay so calm and not curse up a storm lol

  • @Hectekk
    @Hectekk Před 9 dny +60

    Never stop making blind reveals. Love them.

  • @deanofdeans254
    @deanofdeans254 Před 9 dny +99

    PSA strikes again 😂

    • @Spooodermman
      @Spooodermman Před 9 dny +3

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @SkiBum6062
      @SkiBum6062 Před 8 dny +2

      Seriously I’m losing confidence in PSA.

    • @ghettoredneckfishing8499
      @ghettoredneckfishing8499 Před 6 dny +1

      It's not PSA just watch his opening videos he handles his cards as if he is ten

    • @Snickerszn
      @Snickerszn Před 2 dny

      They want to control pop counts on old cards for sure.

  • @markstein1916
    @markstein1916 Před 9 dny +50

    "PSA has very good customer service"??? I want what he's smoking!

    • @grindstone11
      @grindstone11 Před 9 dny +1

      They do if you have an actual issue and go through the proper channels.

    • @hectorscustomrods2606
      @hectorscustomrods2606 Před 8 dny +10

      They have good customer service if you are him calling and can contact people directly at PSA. For the average person, you wont get any customer service.

    • @jasonmurphy4471
      @jasonmurphy4471 Před 8 dny

      They’ve done me right any time I’ve had to deal with them. I don’t always agree with the grades but I can’t say anything bad about the customer service. I actually had them refund me on something I didn’t even notice, so they could have screwed me over on 75 bucks but refunded me without me even asking

    • @BHeeZee4
      @BHeeZee4 Před 8 dny

      My PSA Registry app isn’t showing the featured images. Emailed them 3 times to their info@ email. Just ignored it apparently. Their customer service is subpar.

    • @jasonmurphy4471
      @jasonmurphy4471 Před 8 dny

      @@BHeeZee4 call them. That’s how I always got in touch with them

  • @prysock9786
    @prysock9786 Před 9 dny +4

    Fell out of my chair when he said PSA has good customer service💀

  • @cantoncardcollector1512
    @cantoncardcollector1512 Před 8 dny +4

    LMAO!!! The Austin Reeves authentic reaction was classic!🤣😂

  • @mwroberts79
    @mwroberts79 Před 9 dny +22

    I’ll be happy when breakers retire the “let’s goooo” phrase lol

  • @BuPan
    @BuPan Před 9 dny +27

    The fact that they dont outright tell the sender the reason for the grade is why PSA is a scam at this point, and is only relevant because theyve been around longest

    • @Naxzy.
      @Naxzy. Před 9 dny +2

      They are starting next month i think

    • @mr.rager_the_1st728
      @mr.rager_the_1st728 Před 9 dny +1

      Looking for an alternative. Preferably one with AI that goes into as much detail as possible on the card. TAG is one I've been considering. Slabs are the cleanest on the market also.

    • @travishutchison6459
      @travishutchison6459 Před 9 dny +1

      They haven't been around the longest.

    • @mr.rager_the_1st728
      @mr.rager_the_1st728 Před 9 dny

      @travishutchison6459 but their grading is not subjective. Human grading is extremely subjective. TAG could take over if the hobby let's it. They have started off really well.

    • @travishutchison6459
      @travishutchison6459 Před 9 dny

      @@mr.rager_the_1st728 we get it. You work for tag

  • @1997CARDSxx
    @1997CARDSxx Před 9 dny +48

    BRO YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT COMPS UP FOR NON SPORTS CARD PPL TO UNDERSTAND THE RELATIVE VALUE! More interesting that way and will probably increase viewer retention

    • @1997CARDSxx
      @1997CARDSxx Před 9 dny

      (LIKE ME) I don’t know anything ab sports cards but super into Pokémon and like ur vids

  • @brettsadler4211
    @brettsadler4211 Před 9 dny +2

    Psa ceo sweating knowing tons of people just saw their multiple screw ups.

  • @tyjohnson692
    @tyjohnson692 Před 6 dny +1

    I laughed sooooo freaking hard at 7:45 because I was saying to myself “what if the next one is authentic too” and it was 😂

  • @alexmathewmendoza
    @alexmathewmendoza Před 7 dny +2

    23:23 Geoff seething with so much rage he started calling pennysleeves "penny loaders."

  • @kylekramer718
    @kylekramer718 Před 7 dny +3

    I almost feel like PSA just slaps a number on every card they receive at random

  • @dylanlowe4035
    @dylanlowe4035 Před 9 dny +17

    "Authentic" is not a mistake. I get it on orders occasionally. It usually means the card was miscut or minsized, which sometimes they slab and sometimes they don't But if they slab it, it will say "authentic." SGC will probably grade the card.

    • @gradedcards5516
      @gradedcards5516 Před 8 dny +2

      I got a couple of Authentic grades in my last order and had never had one in the thousands of cards I had previously submitted. I am guessing they are now doing it so they can collect the grading fee, as opposed to when they return the card as min-sized, at which point they get no money

    • @dylanlowe4035
      @dylanlowe4035 Před 8 dny +1

      @@gradedcards5516 I agree with that. But they still go back and forth. I have resubmitted cards that were recently minsized and then they slab as Authentic. I have also submitted vintage cards with extreme damage, like a torn back, they slabbed as Authentic. Another bizarre one was a highly valuable rare vintage card that was slabbed as PSA Authentic, I cracked and sent to PSA again, they refused to slab it stating it was "Miscut." I then sent to BGS, who slabbed as a 3. I then sent that slab to PSA for a cross and they slabbed as a PSA 2.5. This was all recently in the course of a few months. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @MullinaxTMG
      @MullinaxTMG Před 8 dny +3

      It’s because the cards have been cleaned. And PSA was able to detect a cleaning/prep substance. Get ready, hobby friends! This is the new PSA!

    • @dylanlowe4035
      @dylanlowe4035 Před 8 dny +1

      @@MullinaxTMG that’s incorrect. PSA no longer slabs cards they consider “altered” and even when they did, they slabbed them as “authentic altered.”

    • @MullinaxTMG
      @MullinaxTMG Před 8 dny +1

      @@dylanlowe4035 they made this very clear in their recent update. If they feel there is evidence of card prep eg soaking, polishing, etc , then they will grade the card authentic. That’s likely what happened here.

  • @SundayNightGames
    @SundayNightGames Před 9 dny +6

    centering was offff on them o pee chees lolol

  • @drwily8285
    @drwily8285 Před 9 dny +2

    Nice editing touch to drop the background music for the ‘authentics’. It’s almost like they knew what was going to happen. 😂

  • @mikecrow.1
    @mikecrow.1 Před 9 dny +6

    I swear PSA damages 1 card per order. I see a psa 4 or 5 per order now with people who know what they're doing including myself.

  • @1stBowman
    @1stBowman Před 9 dny +1

    8.00 minute mark. I'm in stitches. SCI dropping some mad knowledge on the audience.

  • @jaymahnC5
    @jaymahnC5 Před 9 dny +2

    Such a gamble when grading. Congrats on most 😊

  • @TherealZ_SportCards
    @TherealZ_SportCards Před 5 dny +1

    Hi sports card investor I love your content im just a kid whos trying to make it big in sports cards just like you i just wanted to say that you are my favorite sports card channel and you were the one who inspired me to start collecting thank you for the amazing content you post

  • @iNeverHadMercy
    @iNeverHadMercy Před 9 dny +1

    21:55 The cry of all cries when “keeping it real goes wrong” 😂

  • @ramonayala9296
    @ramonayala9296 Před 9 dny

    You need to do more videos like these it’s exciting and awesome to watch to get that reveal of the grading number !!!

  • @MainelyHockeyCards
    @MainelyHockeyCards Před 9 dny +2

    Solid return!

  • @KjwEditz
    @KjwEditz Před 9 dny +2

    WHAT DA VINE BOOMS BROO

  • @cantoncardcollector1512
    @cantoncardcollector1512 Před 8 dny +1

    The grader was protecting the elite PSA 10 club by giving you all those 9’s on the 84 Topps Baseball. Those a lot of those cards looked perfect from the front. I didn’t see any fish eyes, or snow on the surfaces. Centering & corners looked pack fresh.

  • @te2edgesportscards177

    Classic - love it!

  • @RandomBeexd
    @RandomBeexd Před 9 dny +13

    I think psa prob messed up on that austin reaves, but the reaction was funny lol

  • @snugzgiddens3238
    @snugzgiddens3238 Před 9 dny +2

    You should put up the monetary difference between a 10, 9, 8, 7, and raw of all cards that way people can realize how much of a huge deal / difference these grades make when selling. Great video!

  • @anonanon7235
    @anonanon7235 Před 7 dny

    I can watch blind reveals ALL DAY. I like Geoff's reactions to the authentic grades, and how the music stops.

  • @kartgal
    @kartgal Před 9 dny

    Yesssirrr let’s go!

  • @justin783
    @justin783 Před 6 dny

    I sent in a 100 card regular order to PSA for dual grading (card AND auto grade). I got the notification that my grades were ready just for my excitement to be turned to anger. All the cards were graded authentic with an auto grade. Notified PSA and had to send them back again to wait another couple weeks.

  • @EandLIndustries
    @EandLIndustries Před 6 dny

    Good video! We can tell you didn't look at these before the vid lol.

  • @brushben22
    @brushben22 Před 9 dny +6

    Funny how BGS 9.5 crosses to a PSA 10 and SGC 10 crosses to PSA 9. For all the PSA and SGC followers… BGS is legit and much better than SGC and PSA in my opinion. You can find many more examples of this if you look at more videos :)

    • @ORArmpits
      @ORArmpits Před 9 dny +1

      I don't think the SGC 10 to PSA 9 speaks to the quality of the card honestly. PSA is so random that you could probably cross an SGC 7 to a PSA 10 and a SGC 10 to a PSA 8 in the same order. SGC is the most consistent grader I have used and I trust their grades way more than I trust PSA (feels like PSA just throws darts).

    • @gradedcards5516
      @gradedcards5516 Před 8 dny

      it's one example...stop with the generalizations

    • @brooklyn_geek
      @brooklyn_geek Před 6 dny

      24:07 I KNOW the actual moment was edited here because the reaction was real but I doubt he didn't swear here😂

  • @RS-ig1mc
    @RS-ig1mc Před 5 dny

    Oh cmon like he doesn't just hit up his PSA guys and say "hey this one has to 10 here's an extra hundred bucks"

  • @smbmostfamous1432
    @smbmostfamous1432 Před 9 dny +2

    PSA graded my soto auto printing plate 1/1 no problem.. Weird it happened to you!!

  • @UsualmikeTelevision
    @UsualmikeTelevision Před 9 dny

    As a vintage card collector the grades are always tough to get good grades but your 84's looked amazing! Great video!

  • @tinyheckman7190
    @tinyheckman7190 Před 5 dny

    Not sure I have ever seen u this aggravated sir..

  • @mr.rager_the_1st728
    @mr.rager_the_1st728 Před 9 dny +1

    I think as a community we should find more alternatives to psa.

  • @gymtrainerjake
    @gymtrainerjake Před 9 dny

    I love SGC. Waiting for my cards to get graded as we speak

  • @pikepoke
    @pikepoke Před 8 dny

    great to see your approach and frustrations. the irony is that submitters generally grade their cards higher than the professionals, yet in reality we highly value the psa opinion. high grade cards are worth more because they best represent perfection as produced and are rare it that special extra nice condition.

  • @skipthebase
    @skipthebase Před 9 dny +1

    Jeff. 6:54 I had this same thing happen to me with a Tony Romo SP rookie. The explanation I got from PSA was. If the card is oversized or perhaps cut incorrectly they will issue an authentic only grade to it. It’s so stupid.

  • @michaelrusso6822
    @michaelrusso6822 Před 9 dny

    Geoff... what's your trade value on the Burrow tiger stripe? I've asked about that one a few times before, and would like to work out a deal. I can't make the National, but will be in Atlanta in September.

  • @vinnycent56
    @vinnycent56 Před 9 dny +2

    Can't wait to trade at Nationals! Bringing a Jose Ramirez downtown and a few others banger high end rookie cards with me

  • @rudyestrada5286
    @rudyestrada5286 Před 9 dny

    Great video! I have graded some of my PC as well and same result. Very few 10’s and mostly 8 or 9. So when sending an RPA card, is it better just to authenticate and just grade the auto? When I see videos like they rarely get a 10, sometimes not even a 9. I have few that I would like to get graded because they look so much better in a slab. Any thought on this matter?

  • @paulmouradjian6045
    @paulmouradjian6045 Před 3 dny

    The reason you aren't getting 10's with PSA on older cards is because PSA is protecting their POP!

  • @mots9176
    @mots9176 Před 9 dny

    Graders notes on older cards are going to be very, very interesting if they get those to the bulk value

  • @terryalexander563
    @terryalexander563 Před 9 dny

    Wow, I opened some 89 Topps football a few weeks ago and they went to soft sleeve then toploader but this video is making me think again. They look great to me, well most of them, but doesn't look like grading them is going to help much. I may just encapsulate. Thoughts? I'll get a couple out and post.

    • @floridamaddogg
      @floridamaddogg Před 9 dny +1

      I have graded many of my 1980s and 1990s cards (mainly from my Nolan Ryan and Ken Griffey Jr collection) and most come back an 8 with a sprinkle of 9s and maybe even one 7. I average about 10-15% of the cards I sent in from that timeframe to actually get a PSA 10 and every card I sent I thought looked perfect. So as long as your expectations are tempered, I still say send your best cards in a just see what you get. Expect more 8s and 9s than anything with that ultimate hope of getting at least one 10.

  • @zachc3246
    @zachc3246 Před 9 dny +3

    Did you alter the card while cleaning it? 😮 I never seen that.

  • @RacerRed
    @RacerRed Před 8 dny

    You guys opened a 1989 score box and had a bunch of the cards graded. I haven’t been able to find the video. I have been curious how 1989 score grades straight from the packs.

  • @SCH5510
    @SCH5510 Před 9 dny +3

    Hey, I had a little question about PSA grading. Does the warping or curve of a card affect the grading if there aren’t any creases or damages?

    • @SportsCardInvestor
      @SportsCardInvestor  Před 9 dny +3

      No, I don’t believe that affects the grade

    • @republicofcasuals
      @republicofcasuals Před 9 dny +1

      i remember mid 90's Topp's Finest... had to put them in a phonebook to get those suckers flat fresh of the press 🤣

  • @anthonybigalbal6503
    @anthonybigalbal6503 Před 9 dny

    Great video, fish eyes are what brought the 80s cards down I think, happened to me with some 80s Larry Bird cards, dog gone fish eyes

    • @terryalexander563
      @terryalexander563 Před 9 dny

      @@anthonybigalbal6503 what does fish eyes mean?

    • @anthonybigalbal6503
      @anthonybigalbal6503 Před 21 hodinou

      @@terryalexander563 printing error - usually white in color - that looks like hollow circles/fish eyes

  • @rogerwatson9626
    @rogerwatson9626 Před 9 dny

    Yeah happen to me on a Jordan card few months ago SGC graded it a 9.5 PSA authentic!!!

  • @haydenthbos2011
    @haydenthbos2011 Před 9 dny +3

    They graded my printing plate. I don’t know what happened that sucks.

  • @JQM78
    @JQM78 Před 9 dny +1

    You know you can remove the scratches from those panini one touch cases, right? Meguiars scratch remover will restore them to good as new. Just apply some to each side, and using a microfiber you can wipe it off. It may take several applications but I’ve restored some filthy ones with scratches all over.

  • @degenrips
    @degenrips Před 7 dny

    I had a PSA order a little over a month ago with a handful of One Piece cards. PSA labeled them as the Japanese version when they were English. Japanese versions sell for 50%+ less than English so I was not happy haha

  • @madtowncollecting
    @madtowncollecting Před 9 dny

    I have a random authentic in an order before 😂

  • @apebaboon783
    @apebaboon783 Před 9 dny

    Yes the authentic has happened to me several times with the 2023 Leaf Pro Set Pure cards.. basically there's something off as far as the cards size potentially..

  • @richardharden6811
    @richardharden6811 Před 8 dny

    Packman is gonna want that bane💎 forsure!

  • @ImBlanta
    @ImBlanta Před 5 dny

    You could tell Jeff was fuming

  • @BigFungus19
    @BigFungus19 Před 9 dny +1

    Psa has to throw in a 7 here and there so people don't get suspicious about you having a inside deal for 10s

  • @skipthebase
    @skipthebase Před 9 dny

    Jeff- Michael Harris PSA 7 yellow. I saw a pretty big scratch on the upper left side of the card about 25% down from the corner on left side.

  • @cristobaldelacruz142
    @cristobaldelacruz142 Před 9 dny

    Mr. Geoff want to see your store in person one day. Can we make it happen 😅. That is one of the reasons I don’t want to send my cards for grading they look 10 to me but 9 or 8 would be disaster.

  • @Duuuval23
    @Duuuval23 Před 9 dny

    I recently sent out the same CJ Stroud purple shock optic card. It had a print line down around his shins, but I figured a graded card is better than a raw card with that flaw. Still waiting to see what it gets.

  • @transamdude95
    @transamdude95 Před 9 dny

    PSA such a bad grading company. Way too expensive, too slow, mid slabs, inconsistent grading, no details on subgrades... Why does everyone are their slavs hold the highest value? We as a community need to change this.

  • @jonathanholden6556
    @jonathanholden6556 Před 21 hodinou

    Ups and downs of a grade reveal are something I am very familiar with. Happy for you on the 10’s that you were able to get. I will say I think PSA is much harder on older cards for some reason and I don’t think that makes much sense. They should grade all cards by the same standard and not try to control the pop report

  • @austinjones4500
    @austinjones4500 Před 9 dny

    Are you going to be at the national with cardshq

  • @slim3269
    @slim3269 Před 9 dny

    Do you keep potential cards you’d grade down the line in a separate spot? I know I have cards worth grading buried.

  • @Nogame7_Cards
    @Nogame7_Cards Před 5 dny

    I saw that PSA will starting giving "authentic" or "altered" designations to cards they think someone has used cleaning products on. Im not sure how they think they can tell. Im sure there will be a ton of cards that get this designation, that have actually never been cleaned.

  • @JeezyKeen
    @JeezyKeen Před 8 dny

    literally hyping authenticated auto graded 10 cards lol

  • @keithwilliams5867
    @keithwilliams5867 Před 8 dny +1

    Put up comps@!!!

  • @DawnPossession
    @DawnPossession Před 8 dny

    Why didn't it get an Authentic ? x files music plays in my head 😂

  • @stevenflatt523
    @stevenflatt523 Před 2 dny

    I’ve had that happen when psa damaged my card and they didn’t want to send back as a 3 so they sent as authentic… did they help me out at all… no.

  • @plb3733
    @plb3733 Před 8 dny

    Killed the value with that authentic 10 auto grade on those two

  • @chucktownusa2505
    @chucktownusa2505 Před 6 dny

    I like that use the terminology of cost ratio versus grade

  • @Cardboardkillerz
    @Cardboardkillerz Před 9 dny

    Might have used Kurt's card care haha! They are starting to come down on alrered

  • @gyanaryawan
    @gyanaryawan Před 9 dny

    classic psa moment😂

  • @trebor3033
    @trebor3033 Před 9 dny

    @sportscardinvestor what were the upgrade charges when just authenticing for the autos? I have a luka diecut rc auto /10 i want to just authenticate.....im considering BGS coz of the unknown upgrade charge?

  • @T-TiiMe
    @T-TiiMe Před 9 dny +1

    Aren't there supposed to be grader notes now?

  • @The047SportsTCGCards
    @The047SportsTCGCards Před 9 dny

    "PSA has good customer service" SAID NO ONE ON PLANET EARTH

  • @ARVoight
    @ARVoight Před 9 dny

    I sent my 3 printing plates in and asked them to be slabbed as Authentic. Not sure how you'd grade those anyway, since they're usually dinged up to begin with.

  • @zoestertoaster27
    @zoestertoaster27 Před 8 dny

    What would make an auto grade lower than a 10, like streaky lines or off center?

  • @dorkin_aint_easy
    @dorkin_aint_easy Před 9 dny +8

    The lack of transparency from the largest grading company in the world is utterly shocking. Why do we continue to hold PSA at such a high level. Can we all collectively agree that PSA F'ing sucks?

    • @theconscientiousperfecter
      @theconscientiousperfecter Před 7 dny

      I say this constantly. Shocked they have such sway. But reality is that everyone who feels that way also has some 10's they don't want to tank in value. Even though everyone complains...everyone is also invested by now.

    • @themandalorian400
      @themandalorian400 Před 7 dny

      Part of it is that PSA had marginally better values and a softer service pre-covid and when all the flippers and money seekers saw a milkable cash cow they went to PSA for easier 10s. And now anyone who joins the hobby looking at grading sees "PSA has most value" and goes there.
      The other part of it is the set registry. PSA still has the best registy. SGC needs to get one, CGC's needs to be better, I don't really know anything about BGS, and probably need a good "outsider" one for proper competition to drive this part out of the discussion.

  • @REBroker1966
    @REBroker1966 Před 7 dny

    PSA is just one huge screwup. They will charge you again to look at the authentic screwups.

  • @joeday17821
    @joeday17821 Před 9 dny +2

    The acting is sooooo bad on this one lol

  • @frankmoreno8402
    @frankmoreno8402 Před 4 dny

    if they grade an 8 i probably should’ve left it raw. it grades an 8 Fair enough lolololol

  • @PayDay4Youtube
    @PayDay4Youtube Před 9 dny

    Authentic reason is probably because they thought you used Kurts Card Care on it lol

  • @richardharden6811
    @richardharden6811 Před 8 dny

    I've seen a psa 7 cracked and come back a 10 and a 9 come back lower!😂

  • @jeremyhalstead6996
    @jeremyhalstead6996 Před 7 dny

    I know you can request just an authentication at a certain preset grade you pick for example, if it gets a six grade or below, they just authenticate and you can request that.

  • @Collectwhatyoulike
    @Collectwhatyoulike Před 9 dny

    PSA doesn't slab minsize or miscut(recent) cards so all I could think of is that someone missed a spot if a solution was used to clean the surface

  • @SPICY_BEAR
    @SPICY_BEAR Před 9 dny

    No 10 on the '84 Mattingly! 😭

  • @bigsmooth7998
    @bigsmooth7998 Před 9 dny +1

    Need to get those eyeballs checked Geoff.

  • @jfbaught
    @jfbaught Před 9 dny

    They grade plates as authentic now. Just got an order back with one as well just as authentic in a 50 card order.

  • @jbkilluh
    @jbkilluh Před 8 dny

    Should have bought the service with grader notes. Oh wait, you wouldn’t be able to share the notes with us anyways.

  • @DanersDeals
    @DanersDeals Před 8 dny

    the harris 7 had a crease on the back.

  • @wesleyhodge9457
    @wesleyhodge9457 Před 8 dny

    PSA is so inconsistent with not only their card grading, but their auto grading. Like you Geoff I submitted a Jalen Hurts RPA /25 with a really strong and bold auto which they somehow gave it a 9.

  • @jbkilluh
    @jbkilluh Před 8 dny

    For the raw cards that you didn’t want less than a 9 on, why don’t you use the option that keeps the card raw if it grades less than whatever you dictate you want?

  • @MrWIIGEN
    @MrWIIGEN Před 8 dny

    Put on prices next time pls, makes it a lot more fun. Thx :D

  • @chrismiles6694
    @chrismiles6694 Před 9 dny

    I guess if you have deep pockets, grading cards that have to be 10's to make dough on 'em would be fun...20 bucks a card to grade has made me hit the 10x lighted magnifier pretty hard. 80's cards have such an ink flow difference in the same card that you have to have 10+ copies for comparison to get a feel for the really vibrant examples.