We Cracked 14 Mint Slabs and Resubmitted to PSA! Does a 9 = a PSA 10?!?

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
  • Jon cracked 14 slabs from some of the most reputable graders and resubmitted them to PSA! Let’s find out how he did!

Komentáře • 121

  • @vine5652
    @vine5652 Před měsícem +9

    If you pause it at 2:50 that Tua has a ding at the bottom right corner. Thats probably why it got that 8.

  • @michaelroot1960
    @michaelroot1960 Před měsícem +11

    PSA is where 9’s go to get a 10 label. 😂

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem +2

      @@michaelroot1960 lol unless it’s a BGS first! I have had zero BGS 9s bump up and very few 9.5’s

  • @internetperson9121
    @internetperson9121 Před 20 dny +2

    Ex graders have said they spend 30 to 90 seconds per card, that includes taking out of the holder, recording grades etc. it’s hilarious that people think PSA is sitting there scrutinizing the cards. They rush through and slap grades on. Hell, they’re in such a rush they not infrequently do severe damage to a card. Not nearly as much thought goes into the grades as people think. It’s easy to find PSA 10s on eBay that have visible flaws even viewing through the slab at a distance. Like everything else in this hobby the driving factor is the GAMBLE

  • @user-pp2tc9ut9u
    @user-pp2tc9ut9u Před měsícem +8

    Moral of the video. PSA is no better than any other grading company and if you don't like the grade, just resubmit

    • @Snickerszn
      @Snickerszn Před měsícem +2

      Moral of the story grading companies need to have pics and a database of the cards submitted and why they got the grade it did. Transparency is everything in business and PSaa is very subjective.

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem +1

      Better- no, but the cards sell for a lot more $. What I think most people want in a grading company:
      Customer support
      Consistent grading
      Fair pricing
      Resale value
      Nice looking/clear slabs - and labels

    • @user-pp2tc9ut9u
      @user-pp2tc9ut9u Před měsícem +3

      My exp with CS has all been the same. PSA doesn't stand out..I think this video showed they aren't consistent.they have the worst pricing structure and their slabs are by far the most plain. The resale value is why people go with them.. but watching the video of the PSA 10 Jordan rc, all getting 9s or lower with bgs solidified their quality. Anyone not using half points and showing subgrades to come up with their magical number requires more scrutiny.

    • @Snickerszn
      @Snickerszn Před měsícem

      @@nothingbutcardboard I just want consistent grading and full transparency. I only grade with psa because of resell value. There are other companies with full transparency such as TAG grading which is a great idea.

  • @scottweisrock8535
    @scottweisrock8535 Před měsícem +10

    Grading is a joke!

  • @DadCaveBreaks
    @DadCaveBreaks Před měsícem +1

    New sub here, love the content! Keep up the good work 💪

  • @alpha_sploosh
    @alpha_sploosh Před měsícem +7

    I think if the card is numbered, they cn search what it got last time and grade it the same. I may be wrong.

    • @pickzkickz
      @pickzkickz Před měsícem

      They wouldn't consider it being cleaned up?

    • @RobbingRips
      @RobbingRips Před měsícem

      Ain’t nobody got time for that

    • @sourcingsailor4987
      @sourcingsailor4987 Před 9 dny

      You "never" resubmit a "numbered" card, especially a "low-numbered" card to the "same" grading company, "EVER!"
      Even, my wife's cat knows that and it runs full speed into the wall mirror that's lying on the floor, because it thinks there's another cat invading its territory.

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před 9 dny

      Believe it or not, they don’t always check. I’ve had multiple PSA 9s go up to PSA 10s. It could possibly depend on the value of the card and the # in existence. But I have had a few /99 bump up with a PSA regrade.

  • @TheZichys
    @TheZichys Před měsícem +1

    Great video!

  • @user-ej1gj5ue9v
    @user-ej1gj5ue9v Před 16 dny +1

    I think the deal with grading is you have to get the more inexperienced people to get the good grades. They might miss stuff. The veterans probably gonna be more nit-picky and can't grade them all. It's luck of the draw. Was told by PSA they have 2 independent people look at the cards and give a grade. If they match, it's done.

  • @Scottie4twenty
    @Scottie4twenty Před měsícem +4

    I've never been to L.A but all the times I've played San Andreas and GTA I kinda feel like I have and would know my way around lol

  • @smbmostfamous1432
    @smbmostfamous1432 Před měsícem +4

    PSA gives 10s like crazy.. not surprised, i stopped using PSA for that reason.. there's a reason HGA gave it a 9 but PSA must've missed something.. EVERY EYE is not the same 👀

  • @fredflintstone4364
    @fredflintstone4364 Před měsícem +6

    Grading is a complete joke, and as long as you and everyone else keep falling for the scam, nothing will ever change. It's human error. Might as well look at card yourself !

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      @@fredflintstone4364 thanks for your opinion Fred

    • @inlandempiresignpros1558
      @inlandempiresignpros1558 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@nothingbutcardboardeven though it's crazy wrong.. psa 10 goes for 20 to 30x what ungrades goes for in my experience.. but to each his own ✌

    • @sourcingsailor4987
      @sourcingsailor4987 Před 9 dny

      @@inlandempiresignpros1558 "20 to 30x"? Really? Come on, dude, if you are going to pot nonsense, at least make your nonsense sensible and logical!
      I mean, seriously, 20 to 30x? I just pulled a Wemby Pink that's selling for $125 RAW, so YOU are telling me, if I get a PSA 10, that card would sell between $2,500 an $3750?!
      There are PSA 10's for the exact card I have that selling for $1,200, and that's nowhere close to 20 to 30x!

  • @MiaUncleBreaks
    @MiaUncleBreaks Před měsícem +3

    Tag the only grader I would consider

  • @wp8639
    @wp8639 Před měsícem

    I purchased a SGC 9 Select Wembanyama Mezzanine Blue Ice which will be cracked and then sending it in to PSA. I also plan on cracking a SGC 9.5 Bowman Chrome U Caitlin Clark Auto /99 and submitting it to PSA as well.

  • @rex-freestylepackripps801
    @rex-freestylepackripps801 Před měsícem

    Great cards,mew sub thanks for sharing!!👍😎💯

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      @@rex-freestylepackripps801 thanks for the comment! Hopefully we have some better grades next time

  • @Matt_237
    @Matt_237 Před měsícem +2

    Hilarious results to be honest, and in no good way for PSA. Was buying a '95 Stadium Club Ring Leader's Griffey Member's Only last weekend at a show, and the guy has a CSG 8.5. Came home, asked a guy with a PSA 8 if he could match the price and he went on a foul-mouthed rant on why CSG was a joke, he had 30 years in the business and yap, yap. So, I just said have a nice day. Went back to the show and paid MORE for the CSG. Why? Because screw the PSA seller. 🤣

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem +2

      I would not buy anything from a dealer like that either! Everyone has there opinions, we just need to share them in a nice way and agree to disagree- no reason to be rude or curse over it.
      We like CSG, they just never took off- prob 4th right now on the grading list. They do grade accurately and love their slabs, to bad there is no resale value.

    • @Matt_237
      @Matt_237 Před měsícem +1

      @nothingbutcardboard I can't tell you how many of the Green Label CSG 9.5s I bought dirt cheap, cracked and got PSA 10. BTW, excellent video.

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem +1

      @@Matt_237 thanks! Green label 9.5’s were graded very harshly! We’ve had a ton cross over to a PSA 10. 100% agree

    • @Matt_237
      @Matt_237 Před měsícem

      @@nothingbutcardboard I never sub, but you're my 2nd hobby sub. Outstanding info, video, everything.

  • @alvinbarrett741
    @alvinbarrett741 Před měsícem

    Thanks for the video fellas. Will any of you guys be at the National?

  • @jakesorrentino7230
    @jakesorrentino7230 Před měsícem +2

    I never got graded up. I always got graded down

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      @@jakesorrentino7230 sounds like you got a bit unlucky

    • @jakesorrentino7230
      @jakesorrentino7230 Před měsícem

      @@nothingbutcardboard Tried it with an SGC 9.5 Freddie Freedman Topps Chrome Rookie cracked resent to PSA it got an 9

  • @brianwatts4941
    @brianwatts4941 Před měsícem +1

    Pop reports are never going to amount to anything with all these people regrading.

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      @@brianwatts4941 PSA’s is probably the most accurate with less people cracking them out, but yes, POP reports will never be 100% accurate

  • @Carliferz
    @Carliferz Před měsícem +1

    I got a 10 from an sgc crack out. I crack bgs 9s all day. 30 percent gem rate.

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      @@Carliferz that’s a way higher percentage than I get. Honestly out of over 10 I don’t think I’ve ever had a BGS 9 go to a PSA 10 and I’m 0-3 on 9.5s to PSA 10s. I need to find your slabs

  • @Adatikz
    @Adatikz Před 26 dny

    what do you mean with "I cleaned them"? Like really polishing or only wiping finderprints

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před 26 dny

      Definitely wipe the fingerprints of it has it. But I can polish to get minor scratches out too.

  • @frostyfeetcards
    @frostyfeetcards Před měsícem

    The growth just in grading assessments over the course of the year has been phenomenal gentleman! Keep going!

  • @zacharynelson7701
    @zacharynelson7701 Před měsícem +1

    It's still part of the game, when those 10 pregrades are a miss but you get wins elsewhere, resub and they are bound to hit. Having one sub get 20% gems and the next 65%, no rhyme or reason. Just have to hope the 10's have enough juice to profit and no damage done to the rest of the cards.

  • @hamm_bone_hobbies1302
    @hamm_bone_hobbies1302 Před měsícem

    Always wanted to do this!

  • @inlandempiresignpros1558
    @inlandempiresignpros1558 Před měsícem

    Nice hawk tua cards bro

  • @user-kp6zr2qk3h
    @user-kp6zr2qk3h Před měsícem

    @nothingbutcardboard do you have a link to the video you referred to that Gem Mint John goes over how treat the card edges? Thanks!

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem +1

      @@user-kp6zr2qk3h czcams.com/video/vwUS9jDMs3w/video.htmlsi=BTR2gTfNp5Pw-3dF

  • @JPfreedom
    @JPfreedom Před měsícem +1

    So did you crack these? If so, how do they track a serial #?

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem +1

      @@JPfreedom yes I cracked these. PSA could penalty check their pop report if it was originally graded by PSA. But if it was graded by another company they would have no idea.

    • @JPfreedom
      @JPfreedom Před měsícem

      @nothingbutcardboard how can figure out if they graded it before if you sent it in cracked raw. Simply curious

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      @JPfreedom PSA would only be able to tell if it was a numbered card. They would have to check their population report to see if they have already graded that number

  • @TheCardHunter
    @TheCardHunter Před měsícem +1

    Great video. I think older cards have pop limits and harder to upgrade. Stick to modern

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem +1

      @@TheCardHunter you could be right. Although I have had a few Ichiro cards come back a PSA 10

  • @austinbrown5731
    @austinbrown5731 Před měsícem

    This round of crackout did not go your way this time. Thanks for sharing
    Not sure your comment at end of video about being overall thrilled with order coincides when the estimated return is -$14

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem +1

      @@austinbrown5731 this was only half of the order. The first half netted about 2k profit.

  • @NgoloGen-sp4mq
    @NgoloGen-sp4mq Před 28 dny

    what is the video of gem mint john showing you how to remove fuxzies off corner with tape?

  • @memorymobley313
    @memorymobley313 Před měsícem

    Hello everyone! Show us what you got! 🤙

  • @sourcingsailor4987
    @sourcingsailor4987 Před 9 dny

    Believe it or not, during the pandemic(2020) PSA was either slow as heck or stopped accepting new orders all together, so people started to look elsewhere, like SGC and this little known company out of South Florida called GMA, just to be able to get their cards(personal collection or flips) graded. So, there are a ton of GMA graded cards out there, that are literally in $5 bins with cards inside that are worth four times that RAW!. So, i
    hi card shows, flea markets, eBay and even antique shops looking for graded cards from companies other than PSA/BGS/SGC(unless the deal is too good to skip) and then I crack it and resubmit ot PSA or SGC and I have never gotten less than a 9, with about 78% coming back PSA 10s.

  • @warfighter2475
    @warfighter2475 Před 26 dny +1

    There is no science behind grading. It is literally gambling. I like grading just for the protection.

  • @digginginthecards
    @digginginthecards Před měsícem +1

    Short answer is no. I've had plenty of 9s come back at a worse grade.

  • @jeremyduffey6613
    @jeremyduffey6613 Před měsícem

    1)How do you make a print line less visible? I’m assuming you used wax
    2)You said crack and resell so you will make that know to the potential buyers correct?
    I would not be a buyer of anything you sell. Deceiving people and using wax to get better results isn’t a good look.

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      Jeremy. Yes you can use Meguiar’s or Kurt’s wax to clean cards and in some cases remove scratches. We have a video if you are curious on how to do it. Lots of people in the hobby clean their cards, they just might not be as up front about it as we are.
      If we do not agree with the grade a card got we will crack them and resell them raw. We have had cards that got PSA 6’s resubmitted and then got 9’s and 10’s. It is not deceptive if you note any imperfections.

  • @MidMOGrower
    @MidMOGrower Před měsícem

    How did you make a card better with print line in the card?

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      Prizm/ chrome cards can be cleaned up and in some cases scratches removed. We actually have a video on how to do it if you’re interested.

  • @NicoSportscards
    @NicoSportscards Před měsícem +1

    They for sure look at the serial number. Best done with non #. Great vid

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem +1

      Interestingly enough I have cracked numbered cards in the past and they have come back with higher grades. However, I do think the more valuable the card, the more likely they are to check the POP report.

  • @kenrogers1948
    @kenrogers1948 Před měsícem +1

    You guys just proved how gawd-awful HGA is...

  • @jasonfuller2734
    @jasonfuller2734 Před měsícem +2

    PSA is a joke.

    • @DanielCordone9
      @DanielCordone9 Před měsícem +1

      Awful company. Most inconsistent at grading. Steal from the customer by upcharging

  • @loadedhot1034
    @loadedhot1034 Před měsícem

    The Hurts purple shock looks off centered left to right.

  • @drew.g.h6979
    @drew.g.h6979 Před měsícem +2

    sorry guys but take the grade the card was given🤷 so i guess ur gonna resub the 8 again lol

  • @hamm_bone_hobbies1302
    @hamm_bone_hobbies1302 Před měsícem

    That Pujols Chrome looked too good for an 8😢

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      @@hamm_bone_hobbies1302 it was pretty clean, but the chrome late editions are a tough grade

  • @MiaUncleBreaks
    @MiaUncleBreaks Před měsícem +1

    Crack it and sell it raw, or in other words scam unsuspecting collectors.... Hobby Heroes!

    • @slimbsad
      @slimbsad Před měsícem

      right, it's a business and these guys are being real as it gets 😂

  • @justinsiemion1452
    @justinsiemion1452 Před měsícem +1

    How much did it cost to grade them?

  • @ak74brass41
    @ak74brass41 Před měsícem

    After the case is opened, that card stays in the psa registry, correct? Even if you submit it elsewhere

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      Correct, unless you were to reach out and let them know it was cracked open with proof

  • @chillyssportscards2909
    @chillyssportscards2909 Před měsícem

    A 9 is mint. So its a weird scale. The 9.5 in bgs/sgc are truly weird i.m.o. it's mint but it's just a 9...

  • @michaeldenzer6024
    @michaeldenzer6024 Před měsícem +1

    They cant upcharge when they downgrade 17 sgc 10s 10 autos!!!!!!

  • @californiacookingitup5926
    @californiacookingitup5926 Před měsícem

    I’ve got a Kobe rc all star 10 I need to cross over I wish you could help me

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      @@californiacookingitup5926 we have a few videos on how to crack slabs if you’re interested.

  • @micahgarner6321
    @micahgarner6321 Před měsícem +2

    So I learned that grading cards makes no sense

  • @michaeldenzer6024
    @michaeldenzer6024 Před měsícem +1

    Dont trust psa! At all.....

  • @brendanbabinec7144
    @brendanbabinec7144 Před měsícem

    You don’t have to crack them they do crossover

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem +1

      @@brendanbabinec7144 yes I know, but it’s cheaper to crack them and it removes any bias from seeing another label

  • @judiepitsos4464
    @judiepitsos4464 Před měsícem +3

    Dump all those QBs there going nowhere.

  • @JC-pu7gi
    @JC-pu7gi Před měsícem

    Without watching you should get 2 10 always 20 percent that’s there limit

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      @@JC-pu7gi what do you mean that’s their limit?

    • @JC-pu7gi
      @JC-pu7gi Před měsícem

      @@nothingbutcardboard In my opinion I think if you’re not in there inner circle of friends and associates. They will not give you the grade your cards deserve 5 Years ago I would get 50 -60 percent 10.s It slowly dwindled down too 20 Percent. That’s my opinion and I have the invoice to proof it. They control the Market. I don’t trust them an will not give them anymore of my business. Checkout my videos at J.C and his card collection as I crack out psa vintage cards and resubmit to SGC

  • @thomasshenton577
    @thomasshenton577 Před měsícem +2

    Flipper's are just in it for the money.... I would never switch a Beckett slab and tag for PSA😮😮😮
    PSA is a rip off 😂😂
    Beckett will always be a better buy then PSA. The flipper's bought into the hype. Because, they aren't true collector's 😂😂
    But, too each and it's own. He lost money 🤑

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem +1

      @@thomasshenton577 nah, actually made 2k off the order, but it was in the first half of the order

    • @DanielCordone9
      @DanielCordone9 Před měsícem +1

      BGS are the best of a bad bunch. Best slabs and more accurate grading

  • @S0DAPOPINSKI1979
    @S0DAPOPINSKI1979 Před měsícem

    Pretty good tips, except one sticking point. $5 cards that go to $50 with a 10 and only $15 in 9 still can be worth it. Even at a 50% 10 rate you make money. Say you did 20 $5 cards. Your into cards for $500 cost and grading. 10 9’s = $150, 10 10’s = $500 for total of $650 and a 30% profit of $150. If you bump that up to a 70% gem rate you would make $790 at a 58% profit of $290.

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      @@S0DAPOPINSKI1979 you definitely can. It’s just going to be a lot more work posting the cards to eBay selling say 20 cards rather than 5

  • @crankycardguy1369
    @crankycardguy1369 Před měsícem

    More ichiro crackouts....

  • @digginginthecards
    @digginginthecards Před měsícem

    If you got 10s from an HGA slab, I'd be very surprised. They are very soft graders.

    • @ericsakamoto5657
      @ericsakamoto5657 Před měsícem

      HGA grades way harder than PSA. PSA gives out 10s like Halloween candy

    • @digginginthecards
      @digginginthecards Před měsícem

      @@ericsakamoto5657 no way...Every HGA card I had graded higher than PSA. 1 to 2 grades higher. Especially bigger cards.

  • @brianjones5995
    @brianjones5995 Před měsícem

    Of course Psa has been labeling serial cards always regrade non serial or regrade with a different company

    • @nothingbutcardboard
      @nothingbutcardboard  Před měsícem

      @@brianjones5995 I have actually had multiple serial numbered cards come back with different grades PSA 9 to PSA 10. It may depend on the value of the card and how many they are numbered to. But it’s not a sure thing that you’ll receive the same grade as before.

  • @MrSQRL-1
    @MrSQRL-1 Před měsícem +2

    PSA is Trash 🗑. I hope the hobby wakes up to what TAG Grading is doing. The days of cracking slabs and resubmiting are over because of TAG Grading. PSA is an outdated relic, and their slabs look like crap.

    • @shortflicsplug
      @shortflicsplug Před měsícem

      TAG new marketing strategy?

    • @MrSQRL-1
      @MrSQRL-1 Před měsícem +1

      @@shortflicsplug I'm just spitting facts

    • @DanielCordone9
      @DanielCordone9 Před měsícem

      PSA are crap. I've never seen a Tag slab on ebay