Cardinal Pell dismisses Adam/Eve as a Myth whilst debating Richard Dawkins.
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- A clip from a debate on Qanda ABC 09/04/12 ~ Episode #102.
Enough said by Cardinal George Pell here to shake any belief in my opinion.
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Even Pell knew he was bullshitting and had to make up shit to get through this.
Classic Bro 🤍
If Cardinal is Not sure of his Faith high time he defrocks himself & leave the Church !
@@kingsleyperera9655 He can't. He's dead.
@@lawrence1318Thanks & sorry I didn't know he has gone for reward of _______ or _______ ?
@@kingsleyperera9655 God doesn't reward anyone.
The more the Cardinal speaks, the more he makes the point for evolution.
Perhaps not his evolution though lol.
That’s because most priest don’t even believe the Vatican Catechisms.
amen
@@johnchristiandeguzman5295 The church has no official teaching on evolution. So not sure what catechism you are referring to.
@@wordforever117 the catholic catechism. I never said that they have a doctrine on evolution to begin with btw.
I checked page 92 ...it wasn’t there
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Charles_Darwin
@@jjj444 yes but the implication of the comment was that the cardinal was lying. Darwin was a theist. He only started calling himself agnostic in his later years. He also didnt have the same sense of superiority over religious folk that you and many others in the comments appear to have. He said this for example "Science has nothing to do with Christ, except insofar as the habit of scientific research makes a man cautious in admitting evidence. For myself, I do not believe that there ever has been any revelation. As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities."
@@Heuhegeygeygeheu After watching this clip, what I really noticed, was Cardinal Pell giving a perfect example of the sense of superiority of religious folk.
@@lesterross1 then you must have watched a different video than i did
@@Heuhegeygeygeheu Curious that he couldn't mention that Darwin changed his views as he go older. Obviously Pell never will, but his smug responses reveal you clearly give him a pass. Not surprising though.
I continue to be baffled by religious people's misunderstandings of how evolution works
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@Thomas Fannon outside of the book do you have any proof a god? Im not claiming there is a magic wizard so the burden of proof is on you to prove there is
@Thomas Fannon Good joke. Yep, talking snakes and donkeys were real!
@Thomas Fannon quality bait 👌
Non-religious people have the same misunderstandings, they're just not called out on it.
“If Adam and Eve never existed, where did original sin come from”… this atheist man understands the Bible much better than the cardinal.
Actually, he doesn't. Sin is not even mentioned in the Adam and Eve story. That's just a common theological misrepresentation of the book of Genesis. It's also probably more common among Evangelicals than Catholics with proper introduction to the bible. Having said that, the proper interpretation of Genesis unearths another inconvenient fact... the people who wrote about sin later in the bible, especially in the NT, either never read Genesis or if they did, they deliberately falsified its meaning because it didn't fit their agenda. That was an easy thing to do because their audience definitely never had access to a copy of Genesis that they could actually read in the original language.
@@schmetterling4477 When they initially did have access to a bible written in their own language, they were burned at the stake if they found to be in possession.
@@thorium9082 You mean in the early days of the Reformation? That's not what I am talking about. I am talking about the 1st and 2nd century AD.
Adam and Eve is a mythical story. This is a form of literature which attempts to explain events which happened before recorded human history. The author of Genesis is trying to convey some sense of the freedom from suffering and death the human race enjoyed before their loss of innocence and fall from grace.
@@jameshogan6142 Yes, that is exactly what the Adam and Eve myth is not about. Adam and Eve are born as children, innocent and protected. They learn and grow up, which means they discover their sexuality and they have to take on adult responsibility (work for the man to support his family, the pains of child-bearing for the woman). Eventually they grow old and die. What you are giving us here is theological bullshit that was introduced way later.
I don't think Pell believes what he is saying, but it's his job to perpetuate the lie.
Charlie I agree totally, they’re a Shabby bunch.
surely they do realize their entire Doctrine holds no currency in a Free mind, Catholicism is still in the Dark Ages along with 1 Billion or so Neanderthals.
This statement is foresight.
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@@Whiterabbit42 Ah, the mindset of communism and socialism.
his salary relies on it
Love watching Pell squirm when confronted about his ridiculous understanding
Because you are hateful.
If you want to watch someone squirm, watch Mr. Dawkins admit to intelligent design in his interview with Ben Stein in the movie Expelled.
It’s almost too easy to embarrass religious zealots. They literally believe coloring books we give to children growing up.
Love seeing pell squirm, period.
I'm amazed Dawkins didn't self-combust from cringing at the amount of things Pell got wrong; you could see every time Pell said something stupid he just squirmed, like he's dying to just shut him up so he doesn't dumb down the whole studio.
Pell doesn't claim to be a scientist. Richard Dawkiins, a very intelligent man for whom I have a great deal of respect, scores a lot of points from fallacious beliefs in organised religions, but that is not what he should be setting out to do. He denies the existence of a supreme being. Science does not prove that a supreme being doesn't exist. It is impossible to prove either that a 'God'' does exist or doesn't exist.
Ifkrrr lmao
The Guy knows nothing about the Bible and that's not a surprise been he is a Catholic.Also Dawkins knows nothing about evolution although he comes across as been intellectual.Here is a very simple fact.To prove evolution you need observable evidence.Unlesd you have lived thousands of years then you won't have any! Therefore all Dawkins had is his own THEORY NOT FACT.
@@allangrant6349 Well you're free to look up how dna works, and compare the dna of any two animals, and see that the majority of genes across them are indeed the same. Pointing towards common ancestors between all of us. Not to be rude but it seems you don't quite understand evolution in it's entirety.
@@thetaboyswag2307 Hi, Thanks for you reply which is very interesting.I will have a look at the DNA evidence you say that proves man evolved from animals.I hope to get back to you to disprove it completely.I think you are probably a little confused and are jumping gun a bit.The problem you have with evolution is you don't have a single Fossil to prove it .Now surely with all the millions of Fossils dug up from all over the place that you would find one without any doubt that proves the missing link!But nowt to show for it ☹️
The delusion of original sin has brought untold number of abuses to humanity. This is why Richard kept coming back to it, and the so-called holy man, the cardinal, has evaded every time...
Without original sin, the whole celestial protection racket (to paraphrase Hitchens) falls apart. So the cardinal was really stuck
Re-listening to this after a period of a couple of years, Cardinal Pell sounds even more gormless than I remember.
My first watching and Pell came across extremely poorly. Noted that he didn’t want to take on the argument of original sin after he’d confessed the original sinners were made up.....bless him. Only taken 2000 years to get to some semblance of truth. If that part is made up how credible then is the rest?
@Dean Jones they let him out for "reasons"
@@nigelstanley3674 He destroyed the whole point of Christianity with that statement
@@adrian72300 maybe. There are a lot of varieties of Christianity, and many don't hold to a doctrine of original sin. Universalists come to mind, and they have been around for hundreds of years.
@@alfresco8442 oh yeah. What is the title of his autobiography ? Very keen to read.
"It's a religious story told for religious purposes" -- In other words, pure fiction.
Pell is capable of talking with great certainty, bluffing his way through life, but he ended up being stopped in his tracks when he was exposed as an evil child molester.
Of course, no one ever believed that the Bible was 100% accurate, not even in middle age. Biblical literalism is something new.
Some people should stick with easier books, like Harry Potter
It's like some of the other parables in the Bible, e.g. the good Samaritan was not an historical figure but is employed as a literary metaphor to teach people how to care for one another. The story of the prodigal son shows that forgiveness can be obtained by even people that have led sinful lives. The story of Adam and Eve is similarly how the author of Genesis explains the mystery of Sin , death, decay, sickness, and suffering in the world. It is like poetry or art paintings depict abstract subjects such as Love, Courage, bereavement, loneliness etc. We absorb their meaning without saying that they are not valid because they are not scientific.
Islam is the answer. Catholic Church is backward ; people do not take it serisouly.
@@adad-ec6ht Well more than one billion people do.
Man created gods. It's that simple and the Cardinal is spewing total nonsense and he knows it! Such craziness the religious try to sell us.. love Dawkins and his intelligence and knowledge.
Pell convicted for child abuse.
May the spaghetti monster have mercy on his soul. The jury did not.
Denied an appeal too Albert he may be in prison tomorrow although he’ll be protected by officials.
We all know that juries are never wrong, don't we?
@@jinnymudlark1815
Like we all know what cardinals do to little boys.
Do you always doubt the verdict of juries or only in the cases where religious leaders stand trial?
@@jinnymudlark1815 Pell has withdrawn his Appeal and is awaiting sentence. Juries sometimes do get it wrong. The victims said he did it, the Police said he did it, the Prosecutor said he did it, the Jury said he did it, I say he did it and Pell says he didn't - well he would wouldn't he. The Church has stopped defending him, so what do you think's going on?
Albert Stegeman are you circumcised ? We all know what doctors do to little boys...
I am an atheist. But I tried really hard to listen to Pell's point of view to see if there is any merit in it. I consider myself a reasonably educated person. But, I could not find any logic or understanding in most of what he said. He seemed to me to not be able to answer a question in a straight and logic manner that anyone who does not know the bible would understand. He seems to dodge the point of the question. How does he expect to convert anyone to his religion. Richard Dawkins does exactly the opposite.
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Even lie about page 92, apparently.
And Dawkins defines very poorly nothing with theoretical physics and projections inductive argument and prediction and then says he talks by facts and empiricism. Its complete contradiction. Atheism really is absurd.
@@Nat88123 Nope. Atheism isn't absurd. You are
PS: atheism only means not believing in God, not some strange cult or religion
Silly person ... you don't need logic or reason in religion. Quite the opposite in fact ... after all, faith can move mountains - the rest of us are stuck with bulldozers, but don't fret, we still give God the credit. Sometimes-
"Mr God, Sir?"
"Yes, little Ollivia, my beloved child?"
"Where did that iceberg come from, that sank Titanic? Sir?"
... ... ... "shaddup ya little bitch and eat your breakfast in silence!"
If there was no Garden of Eden, no Adam and Eve, no apple, no snake then there was no need for Jesus and Christianity. I'm glad a priest cleared this up.
Well said!
No. He said there was no literal Adam and Eve, in the middle east, 6000 years ago, but there was still a first man and woman.
@@matthewphilip1977 No there wasn't.
@@scarfhs1 Of course there was.
I would've left the fruit and ate the snake.
I can imagine how easy it would be for a court to destroy him with logic, these cardinals don't evn believe what they say its so obvious
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I had devout Catholic parents and a strict Catholic schooling !
By the time was 13 I was a confirmed lifelong atheist !
Even at that age it was too preposterous and contrived and patently just a system of control !
Count me out !
Your parents were right. You are right too. The meaning of life is love.
I hope you evolve enough to believe in God .
@@trcemalemretr Yes.. but even those who don't believe are God too. Lest hope all beings realize the purpose of God, why God manifests itself as Diverse, is Love.
Antonio Levey:
Author of Satanic Bible & High Priest of the religion dedicated to the worship of Satan:
His dying words were: " Oh my Oh my, what have I done ? there is some thing very wrong, there is some thing very wrong ' .
Last words of famous atheist before death !
Please see my comment / but you are entitled to your own personal opinion / I respect same !
I would've loved to see Christopher Hitchens in this situation, he would have destroyed Pell in this debate. Richard is seemingly annoyed, yet so polite.. Too polite in my opinion.. "We could do much better without a lot of this nonsense, called religion," as he put it.. Christopher Hitchens is worth checking out!
Hitchens would have schooled this guy, you’re right
I quite like Richard even though I do not agree with him. It is because he is courteous and respects the rights of others to hold their beliefs. Hitchens on the other hand was ill mannered and vulgar, sometimes got his facts wrong and could not remember important scientific details.
Hitchens had a very scattered and chaotic mind. His reasoning skills and logic are weak.
@@Nat88123 I suppose you're saying he only debated lesser men, then? Or are you not going to give examples for your stance on Mr. Hitchens?
@@KonsaiAsTai Spoiler: Peter won't have examples to cite, or arguments from the late Mr. Hitchens to refute with any factual or logical counterpoints.
Pell is both confused about his own beliefs and ignorant of evolution.
Religious people are really struggling to justify their position and beliefs. This cardinal is a great example of the ignorance of religion.
Cardinal Pell was one of best representatives of God in our country. He knows loyalty and honour under God, Queen and country, our commonwealth. Secularism has destroyed the sovereign moral principles of our nation and substituted it with secularists and atheists who can only have a moral opinion and worship and please themselves
Atheists couldn't unite an ant farm.
@@Nat88123 in a way morality is a matter of opinion. It's how morality develops and improves over time. I think you will find many atheists have a strong sense of morality and don't need an old book to tell them what is or isn't moral. Also, I think you will find that atheists don't worship.
You seem to be confused about athiests and what atheism is.
I do admit that religion has been a powerful tool, used over thousands of years, to unite and control people.
@@paulm5443 hey, you said “in a way morality is a matter of opinion”, I’m sure you know that is subjective morality. There is also objective morality which is from god and doesn’t have any human interference. My question is how does morality change overtime. How does what is right become wrong, or wrong become right?
@@mahmoudismail7761 well one example is slavery. The god of the bible condones slavery and people used Christian beliefs to help justify the transatlantic slave trade. The god of the bible told his people how to treat their slaves, how and when to set them free, or not. ISIS use the Islamic interpretations to govern as they do and think they are doing objectively the right thing when they enslave people. The suppression of women and persecution of minorities is condoned in the bible. We now know these things are wrong and immoral and most of us are better than this. That's a big improvement in morality.
Morality only exists in the brain, it's what we collectively decide it to be. It's relative. Our levels of mortality are now superior to those in the bible and continue to evolve.
Morality has evolved with us because it's needed for our survival. Interestingly enough moral behaviour has also been detected in other animal species, no god required.
Dawkins looked like he was in physical pain when pell was rabbiting on about a soul as a "principle of life", without saying what that actually means...
Religious folks have talking in vague terms down pat. I see it all the time. Utter nonsense.
Prior to this interview Dawkins had just arrived in Australia after a flight from the UK, I was waiting for the jet lagged scientist to make mistakes. Turns out it was the well rested Pell that struggled to make sense!
The more I hear a person defending religion the less I believe. This priest did more in affirming my atheism than Dawkins.
Because you dont want a nation of moral principles. You want your own opinion on morality because of self worship. You want a nation of atheists and just opinions. Atheism cannot be a way to unify on any moral principle, not one. You all have different opinions about religion.
@@Nat88123 Religious Fables and tall stories cannot unify even more. They are only lies and falsehoods. Priests are in a certain sense true criminals.
@@Nat88123 Imagine needing religion to have moral principles .. You are lost.
@@Nat88123 Atheists are good people because they want to be. You pretend to be a good person because you're terrified of your imaginary god.
@@Nat88123 Sorry?
For people to still be Christians in modern times is the real miracle!
That’s exactly what a Christian is, a living walking miracle.
I would say it is more horrendous that most people are religious.
Ozzie. This `real miracle` is happening all over the world and in many areas of the world actually `buzzing`! One in three claim connection with Christianity!
You're an bozo I'm a very flawed Catholic but it's so obvious that Christianity is a True Religion that's why they're swept the world and continues to be the number one religion in the world because it's true if you just study it and not listen to assholes like Dawkins you would know the Christianity is true Dolphins doesn't know the first thing about Christianity he makes a fool of himself every time he tries to debate it
Yeah, how did Dr. Raymond Damadian, Harvard and Albert Einstein College graduate, a Bible believing, Christian Creationist invent the MRI machine?
Cardinal: Adam and Eve are mythology
Also Cardinal: God who created them is real
Pell, instead of turning wine into blood, bread into flesh, should have spent his time more wisely, reading and absorbing more reality based scientific discoveries.
The theory of Evolution remains a theory
Pell is the perfect example of someone who is desperate to down play the stupidity of the Bible, but still maintain a Catholic faith, They base their whole religion on the Bible, then conveniently miss important sections of it when it suits
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The catholic religion is not based solely on the bible but on tradition, the magisterium, i.e. the teaching authority of the pope and bishops, and the Bible.
It's kind of a Catholic thing. They assembled the bible. Sure you not getting it mixed up protestant?
@@Nat88123 All religions hang on to their wrong ideas as long as possible, resorting to all sorts of atrocity when they're in power until they are dragged, kicking and screaming, into the future. Then they change their doctrine and claim that's what they believed all along, or god just revealed something new and exciting, while science continues looking for actual truth and knowledge to improve human life.
Sound about right, catholic?
@@adamchristensen2648 catholic. Fite What religion are your parents?
Mr Pell can study Darwin and David Hume in his prison cell and improve his knowledge.
Iain Rae -- Won't you visit him and have a prison shower with him?
ConservativeAnthem 😂
@William Abdy The good news is he is finished as a serious public figure. In the new book "In the Closet of the Vatican," amzn.to/2NLadix, it's estimated 80% of the clergy are gay and almost 100% at the highest echelons. Be careful who your carry water for, Will.
@William Abdy he's guilty and he is in jail , this fact ! Successful appeals are pure speculation. Book chapter and verse 😏
@William Abdy Old child sex cases tend to focus on the alleged victim's testimony. I'd be shocked if they overturn this.
Pell has no fucking idea what he's talking about. Who could possibly be convinced by this man?!
What do u mean by “he has no idea”?
@@mauriciorv228 Are you serious? You really need me to spell out for you where this ignorant man has literally no knowledge of the subject he's being asked to comment on. OK, I'll play ball: (1) he claims Darwin was a theist - wrong! (2) humans probably evolved from Neanderthals - lmao! (3) Then when Dawkins points out Neanderthals are our evolutionary cousins Pell tries to get out of the hole he's just dug for himself with "I'm not much fussed" - proving he doesn't know what he's talking about (4) Then he starts talking about the "principle of life...blah, blah, blah (5) Claims Neanderthals had no culture - WRONG! (6) Adam and Eve, Moses, blah, blah, blah, he's getting really confused at this point. I worry for you if you actually found Pell's comments convincing.
Its a frightening thought, if true, Wikipedia describe this religious gentleman as number three in importance behind the pope!
“The bible says the bible is true which is true because it says in the bible” - see how stupid that sounds 😂
I see how stupid you said it 😏
Really stupid , Bible and it's verses are not for an educated person and humanitarian , it's only for eyewash for illiterate and poor, it's verses are ulterior motive to control over men by men nothing more.
I think there is a logical fallacy in there somewhere.
Yet Jesus' discliples died for their faith, and martyrs have continued to die for their faith ever since. And now the beast system is upon us, as prophesied. If you survive famine/war/plagues, will you take the beast's microchip in your hand and its tattoo of a fine gold bar to use its money? Everyone will know it's slavery to the beast. Those with faith will choose to die, again. Those who fear the beast will comply, and then a few years later will regret their choice. Interesting times ahead for mankind.
@@Gods_messenger_Elijah when?
Excellent "Cardinal Pell dismisses Adam/Eve as a Myth" now he just needs to do the same to the rest of that book.
He didn't dismiss anything. Adam and Eve sinned by trying to know the mind of God. They wanted to know absolute goid and evil just like you bandwagon atheists do. You all have a moral opinion and think you can unite. You couldn't unite an ant farm.
@@Nat88123 Please Pete how do you actually know this story is true?
How do you know Adam and Eve existed for real and that they sinned?
When did you become convinced to believe all these stories to be true for you?
Thanks
Peter he asked u a question
It’s enough with Adam and Rve’s dismissing. Everything of Christianity is a Fake. Pell has said the truth: Adam and Eve are only mythical figures like the rest of the story.
@@Nat88123 Cardinal Pell has said that Adam and Eve are only Mythological Figures. If so no original sinn was committed and therefore no Savior was necessary and no execution was carried out. Thank Cardinal Pell! You have discovered the trick of your comrades !
Herewith all the inconsistent logical fallacies, postulated by Pell, that make the church a philosophical laughing stock.
Robert Bright -- Bob is "Bright," but not bright enough to actually list the fallacies.
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Dawkins didnt have to say a word, the cardinal himself was making a case against the Bible and how true it is.
I'm just grateful Noah came all the way to New Zealand to retrieve 2 Kiwi birds for the Ark. Must have taken him ages to find in the dense bushes lol
It was when he past through Australian to retrieve 2 kangaroos 🦘
Pell came to believe in evolution once and for all when richard mentioned homo erectus. It all finally made sense to him.
Pell is also "really not much fussed" about anything ranging from Neanderthals being our cousins to reporting allegations of child sexual abuse within his own church. And not much fussed about not sexually abusing boys.
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Yes, he has a smartarsed quip for everything Prof Dawkins says, but winds up spreading more smoke and mirrors than light.
Are you suggesting 'selective morality'? Ooooooh ... a low blow! But I like it ... er, Cardinal, will you take it?
(And if anyone has ever pondered those dresses that religious officials wear-I was told by a 'lapsed Catholic' that it was for easier and more rapid access.)
@@johnhough7738 I believe lapsed catholic means an honest logical human.
@@schindlersredemption Newly rational, indeed. Perhaps the Catholicism was instilled by force/coercion in the first place, even simple basic elementary peer pressure can do it.
Pell never answered the girl's question. Typical preachers response when they know the truth but are afraid to say it.
Religion the world's biggest husle
And also the most dangerous weapon ever invented
@@willaminabrown how many people have been killed and suffered through that? Compare the number to how many people "non believer atheist communists" have killed and raped during the world war II .
Hustle *
The biggest lie of all. All religion is a lie. As a native American, I dismiss all religione as made up. I see all religion as bullshit. No one can prove any religion as real. No one. Give any money to a religion? Why would a god need money? All religions mostley a money scam.
@@mick1gallagher So that is what struck Hermosa and Nagasaki? Who knew? Lol.
There is a Hell of a lot of speculative leaps of faith being uttered by the Cardinal here?
It's starting to sound like a story that hasn't quite been thought through yet.
...And he's had 2000 years to get to the final draft.
Say no more.
You'd think any rational person might take the time of a few hours to actually READ what science says about evolution rather than the confused piffle Pell was regurgitating.. Not even understanding the place of Neanderthals in human lineage? The man is messed up .
Yes, truly staggering to watch this man in action and to know he had the role he did in the Catholic Church.
This man managed to climb the church ladder its just a job to him , incompetent people get promoted in all walks of life and that's exactly what happened here you see them all bowing to the new pope they were all were hoping to get the job and if they were truthful they would admit they hate the new boss
Pell is a wonderful and true Australian.
@@Nat88123 how will you ever know... for sure? But then, credulity goes hand in hands with matters of faith, doesn't it.
@@user-rj5kx8wr6y when its reduced to a case of sex run by unpatriotic secularists that destroy national moral unity of a country, sure thing I don't know. What I do know is they deliberately orchestrated a false case and have pell locked away. The most important figure for Australian faith and they managed to lock him up on false charges. Wow you secularists have some power and money. Good job destroying our national moral identity. Now we just have atheistic moral opinions, no moral unity and disillusionment.
@@Nat88123 "we secularists". So because I don't believe in fairy stories, you throw me in with the rest of the bunch you describe?! Tad harsh, and certainly inaccurate.
You have done sorting to do, Peter, and the greater part of that will be to learn that one does not have to believe things without evidence to be a good person.
Indeed, the best are, surely, those who do the right thing without threats from a devil and promises of gifts from a god?
I thought lying was a sin in Catholicism?
Cardinal Pell is a very confused person.
His damage control attempt shows he didn't join to become an arbitrator, nor a stipenduary dispenser to every claimant with an "issue".
You are a twat !
Is he a PERSON or a man?
He cannot be both.
Note that a PERSON is a corporate fiction used by Governments and Corporations
for the purpose of conducting COMMERCE.
The PERSON is in UPPER CASE letters for which the Man and WoMan have been
made responsible and held as surety for the debts of the PERSON.
Harry Robertson
vrolie 2020
thou shall not judge . have you been with the cardinal to say exactly what had happened in sacrasity . we both don't know what had happened also it inappropriate to make an allegation after long 20 years.
also the victim has not even shared with his parents or shared with there friends about such an incident. and no vitness for that incident. such an 10 mint incident of oral sex with both boys by a bishop after the mass with sacrasity opened and in public , unnoticed by any one . madam don't you feel no doubt . madam either you don't know about Catholic church that is why you are commenting like this. a mass conducted by a bishop mean about minimum of 250 belivers will be there. that at least 10 of the layman will visit in sacrasity to meet with the bishop. since this act was done with in open doors .
madam it is not porn vedio to act in a manner like the way as the victim says. also bishop has no previous intimacy with victim. all paedophiles have previous intimacy with victim.
if he had such a character as the victim say he would have done in closed doors in his private house at a none busy schedule . why the bishop done it in open door with a person he don't know before at a busy time . I don't think he a fool to through away his reputation in humiliating circumstance . the way cardinal talks in the present interview dose not suggest it . he is talk is every calculated. I think now days any kids or girls can defame any one just by an sexual
allegation.
@@secilrods5170 Well said man . Its absolutely inconceivable that Pell did this for all the reasons you have pointed out . Also can you imagine after a mass ? This is when people are at their most sober and good . Not committing crazy acts like alleged . Absolute nonsense .
i would be utterly embarrassed if I were Catholic to know this man was given a leadership role in the church with his views
As opposed to any other large modern institution? President Biden President of the United States for example, or Boris Johnson leading Britain?
I would just be embarrassed to be a catholic anyway.
How do someone make an ass out of himself??
Cardinal: Hold my holy water 🥤🥤
Lol
ROTFL 🤣
I thought Dawkins was the one who was making an ass out of himself since he claimed Darwin wasn't a theist lol
@@parrsaw Funny theist. Newspaper headlines of the time said "Darwin killed God".
@@oscarmedina1303 doesn't change the fact that he was a theist and a PRIEST CATHOLIC (Gregor mendel) developed his theory of evolution through natural selection. Cry bout it *-*
It's genetically impossible for all humans to be desended from two people. You need a diverse gene pool of at least 200 otherwise we would all be banjo player from Deliverance :)
That's using logic, simply impossible for any religious nut to use logic.
Atheist logic: 'Nothing can cause something.'
Atheist uncertainty: 'I don't know if a sequence of causes can be either finite or infinite. I don't know if there's an in between infinite and finite number.'
Atheist feeling: 'It's exciting to not know.'
To say the present is the result of an infinite past is a paradox.
The Dark Realm Diaries. We have a similar place here in Australia its the state called Tasmania
Max Born - “Those who say that the study of science makes a man an atheist, must be rather silly people.”
The Dark Realm Diaries.
So do you believe that a group of 200 plus pre humans (whatever they were) all somehow miraculously developed the same genetic mutations which were accepted by there own immune systems to allow this group to all become human at exactly the same time?
I have done some research into this and I haven't found any geneticist who believes this could be possible.
Logically at some point there had to be a first human, and then a second, and a third and so on.
7"254 "There are animal souls" -- This directly contradicts Catholic doctrine. He can't even keep his own stories straight.
This interview is a perfect example of how the religious mind keeps running into difficulty explaining things and the athiest mind has so much more free thinking and open.
Free thinking and yet not 1 atheist can explain how something came from nothing.
I observe too that atheists prefer the notion that the universe is somehow supreme..always existing...much more faith required than believing a transcendent being created the universe
@@alexrattray8807 First of all, there is no theory that says something came from nothing. The Big Bang Theory doesn't say that. We simply do not know what was before the singularity (an infinite small point of pure energy) that "exploded and formed the universe".
Most Theists on the other hand pretend to use logic by saying there has to be a creator, since "something can not come from nothing" but they are absolutely fine with claiming that their creator didn't need a creator.
And yes you could claim that your creator is eternal (without any proof at all, as usual!!) but then your whole argument becomes even more idiotic, since we could claim the same about the energy that was "compressed" in said singularity.
Stop using that strawman argument. It only shows how deliberatly ignorant some Theists are. It's the Theists that claim something came from nothing, not the scientists.
@Cumar Farah Religion requires more than a simple belief in something. Atheism is no religion at all, it simply means that you are aware of the fact that there is zero evidence for any deity and therefore no gods.
Simply believing something doesn't mean it is a religion. There are no rules to follow in order to be an Atheist all we have in common is that we agree that there are no gods (supernatural beings).
@Cumar Farah that’s completely wrong. Atheism is the belief that their is not god, not a religion.
@Cumar Farah So you not believing I'm every other religion asides from Christian doctrine is religion?
Very revealing. I've often pondered the dilemma: Pell is purportedly intelligent, yet he's a true believer in Christian, Catholic dogma. This session resolves it. Pell isn't really very bright.
I've seen the short clip before, but wow. Pell really was painfully ignorant all the way through this section. The subsequent scandals makes it even worse.
My grandparents are dead. Therefore they are not my relatives.
if Adam and Eve isn't actually true, where's the original sin that JC was supposed to be atoning for? "Hey Dad, I had a really crappy s&M weekend because you lied to me about that apple and talking snake and stuff".
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Adam and eve aren't true, abd there is no original sin. That's just religions way of conning people
He said adam and eve weren't neanderthals?
@@scruffmcgruffthecrimedawg5661 and they weren't. Firstly because Adam and eve, didn't exist
@@poozer1986 you can't prove that any more than can proven they did
We need more conversations like this because the more we talk about it the more religion falls apart.
Religion feel apart along time ago. It's a joke
LOL. Pell is just so ridiculous.
*Cardinal Pell should read the book properly, it was Darwin's biography not autobiography, Darwin was not an atheist. The death of his beloved daughter Annie at the age of 10 from tuberculosis in 1851 confirmed his atheism.*
_“This conclusion was strong in my mind about the time, as far as I can remember, when I wrote the Origin of Species; and it is since that time that it has very gradually with many fluctuations become weaker. But then arises the doubt-can the mind of man, which has, as I fully believe, been developed from a mind as low as that possessed by the lowest animal, be trusted when it draws such grand conclusions? May not these be the result of the connection between cause and effect which strikes us as a necessary one, but probably depends merely on inherited experience? Nor must we overlook the probability of the constant inculcation in a belief in God on the minds of children producing so strong and perhaps an inherited effect on their brains not yet fully developed, that it would be as difficult for them to throw off their belief in God, as for a monkey to throw off its instinctive fear and hatred of a snake.”_
*Darwin was referring to the errors in evolution at the time when modern technology did not exist; today evolution can be seen in a way Darwin would have been overwhelmed with. It was because of the lack of modern science he could only see what he though was instability in his theory. Today it can be proven he was on the right track.*
_“or must we overlook the probability of the constant inculcation in a belief in God on the minds of children producing so strong and perhaps an inherited effect on their brains not yet fully developed, that it would be as difficult for them to throw off their belief in God, as for a monkey to throw off its instinctive fear and hatred of a snake.”_
*This statement has been grossly misinterpreted as the answer to Darwin’s statement is in the word “inculcation” it means s to teach through frequent instruction. If you repeatedly tell someone how important it is to be responsible, then you're trying to inculcate in him a sense of responsibility. So if you frequently tell a child there is a god, that child will believe there is a god without question (indoctrination); to which he compared to the indoctrination to a monkey and a snake.*
*An inherited experience is what is experienced down the line of one’s ancestry; families adhering to the same religion from generation to generation are known as inherited followers so an inherited experience would be of a person living through fear or admiration of their religion brought upon by generations of indoctrination.*
_“Another source of conviction in the existence of God, connected with the reason and not with the feelings, impresses me as having much more weight. This follows from the extreme difficulty or rather impossibility of conceiving this immense and wonderful universe, including man with his capacity of looking far backwards and far into futurity, as the result of blind chance or necessity. When thus reflecting I feel compelled to look to a First Cause having an intelligent mind in some degree analogous to that of man; and I deserve to be called a Theist.”_
*When Darwin wrote this paragraph he was taken literally by theists as evidence in his own words that he was a theist; he was not.*
*The following is the full statement, not the reader’s digest version manipulated to support theism, and to falsely imply that Darwin was a theist.* *Pages 93-95.*
*_“This conclusion was strong in my mind about the time, as far as I can remember, when I wrote the Origin of Species; and it is since that time that it has very gradually with many fluctuations become weaker. But then arises the doubt-can the mind of man, which has, as I fully believe, been developed from a mind as low as that possessed by the lowest animal, be trusted when it draws such grand conclusions? May not these be the result of the connection between cause and effect which strikes us as a necessary one, but probably depends merely on inherited experience? Nor must we overlook the probability of the constant inculcation in a belief in God on the minds of children producing so strong and perhaps an inherited effect on their brains not yet fully developed, that it would be as difficult for them to throw off their belief in God, as for a monkey to throw off its instinctive fear and hatred of a snake.”_*
*_“I cannot pretend to throw the least light on such abstruse problems. The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an Agnostic. (This portion was written in a letter to Francis Darwin (who was editing the autobiography), by Emma Darwin and not actually written by Charles Darwin).”_*
*_“A man who has no assured and ever present belief in the existence of a personal God or of a future existence with retribution and reward, can have for his rule of life, as far as I can see, only to follow those impulses and instincts which are the strongest or which seem to him the best ones. A dog acts in this manner, but he does so blindly. A man, on the other hand, looks forwards and backwards, and compares his various feelings, desires and recollections. He then finds, in accordance with the verdict of all the wisest men that the highest satisfaction is derived from following certain impulses, namely the social instincts. If he acts for the good of others, he will receive the approbation of his fellow men and gain the love of those with whom he lives; and this latter gain undoubtedly is the highest pleasure on this earth. By degrees it will become intolerable to him to obey his sensuous passions rather than his higher impulses, which when rendered habitual may be almost called instincts. His reason may occasionally tell him to act in opposition to the opinion of others, whose approbation he will then not receive; but he will still have the solid satisfaction of knowing that he has followed his innermost guide or conscience.-As for myself I believe that I have acted rightly in steadily following and devoting my life to science. I feel no remorse from having committed any great sin, but have often and often regretted that I have not done more direct good to my fellow creatures. My sole and poor excuse is much ill-health and my mental constitution, which makes it extremely difficult for me to turn from one subject or occupation to another. I can imagine with high satisfaction giving up my whole time to philanthropy, but not a portion of it; though this would have been a far better line of conduct.”_*
*_“Nothing is more remarkable than the spread of scepticism or rationalism during the latter half of my life. Before I was engaged to be married, my father advised me to conceal carefully my doubts, for he said that he had known extreme misery thus caused with married persons. Things went on pretty well until the wife or husband became out of health, and then some women suffered miserably by doubting about the salvation of their husbands, thus making them likewise to suffer.”_*
*Darwin doubted the human ability to comprehend God, and the freedom of the choice to believe. He reaffirms his belief in the evolutionary ancestry of humans, and depicts himself as “a man who has no assured and ever present belief in the existence of a personal God or of a future existence with retribution and reward.”*
darwins theory is debatable. There is alot of research suggesting that his theories don't stand up
Robert and science got rid of tuberculosis.....
Thanks for a fantastic comment. Going to copy and paste. (Saved me a trip to the library.) ♥
WHETHER YOU ARE A CREATIONIST OR AN EVOLUTIONIST,
THE FACT IS:
TOM CAT IS A PUSSY GRABBER
Do male cats have spikes on their penis?
When mating, the male cat would bite the female cat at the scruff at the neck. Uninformed people would believe that the pain caused by the male cat’s teeth is what makes the female cat scream and paw at the male cat. Female cats scream not because of the male’s bite. What causes female cats to scream is the withdrawal of the tom cat’s penis. Male cats have spikes on their penis. Female cats scream bloody murder because of the pain caused by the spikes that rake the female cat’s vaginal walls. The withdrawal of the cat’s spiked or barbed penis will trigger ovulation.
A male cat’s reproductive tract consists of the scrotum, the two testicles, prostate glands, two bulbourethral glands, the vas deferens and the penis. Kids would often ask parents if cats have penis because the penis of cats are not easily visible. A sheath of skin called prepuce completely covers the cat’s penis. The penis can protrude from the sheath when the cat licks and grooms. The tip of a cat’s penis is called glans. This glans has a band of about 120 to 150 horny projections.
The spikes on the cat’s penis play an important role in feline reproduction. Female cats are induced ovulators. This means that cats would not ovulate unless mated or unless manually stimulated. When cats mate, the male cat holds the female immobile by biting the scruff of the neck. This is one way of inducing the female cat to ovulate. The withdrawal of the penis will cause the spikes to rake against the vaginal walls. This causes the female cat to scream. The scraping of the vaginal walls also induces the female cat to ovulate.
NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL A PUSSY GRABBER!
Meow!
TOM CAT SPENT BILLIONS OF YEARS OF EVOLUTION GETTING IT RIGHT - OR HE WAS CREATED THAT WAY (GENESIS 1:31)!
Pell , not being the brightest, fails to understand Darwin's great work yet Pell claims to understand the wishes of a mythical supernatural being.
This is beyond stupidity.
I have always gotten a kick out of, "Who else would you suggest?' As if Richard would give him someone's name. I don't know if Cardinal Pell intended to be humorous but it certainly is a humorous moment, evidenced by the laughter in the studio.
Was that a Catholic or a comedian? Some of his nonsense was hilarious
It is 2018 and the earliest cave paintings were discovered this year, *drawn by Neanderthals!*
Dated to 65,000 years ago in Spain.
so the Neandethals signed off the painting?
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@@thiesemuel We found neanderthal bones nearby, lmao try thinking harder
It was 5025 years ago.
In Cardinal's defence.. he isn't discarding evolution like other theists do.. its just that his understanding of evolution is a bit dated and incorrect.
Hes not a theist, hes a Christian. Fallacy.... theist and atheist is a false dichotomy.
@@Nat88123
What do you think "theist" means?
Wow. The Cardinal said that animals have souls. Wow, I wonder if it's tough to determine which animals go to heaven and which ones go to hell? Also, if you dont believe in heaven and he'll, then why did Jesus die? The catholic church is now the church that believes in nothing.
The problem you have is you don't know what a soul is.The Catholic church and the other 99% of churches on this planet aren't from God.If not from God then they are teaching false doctrines.Therefore if they are teaching False doctrine they are from God's adversary Satan the Devil the liar and great deceiver.The Bible warns of this when it says..."Broad an spacious is the road leading off into destruction an many will follow it! whereas narrow is the road leaving to everlasting life and few will find it". Evolution is nonsense.The Bible tells u who God's people are today and have always been.
But he also said that humans have a more sofisticated soul
@@yasminefathalah7042 He doesn't even know what a soul is!
He is correct in saying animals have souls.Every creature which God created is a living soul.There is no such place as Hell.Some humans will go to heaven.(144,000) However the vast majority will live on earth.
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Next week's topic does the Easter bunny exsist...
"At what point did the soul get injected?" -- That's presupposing that souls exist. Why ponder questions based on flawed assumptions?
A priest arguing evolution with an evolutionary biologist? He's not even bringing a knife to a gunfight. He's completely unarmed.
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Why are our human attributes called "miracles" by the religious? It just makes theists sound like awestruck children. We might use the term "miracle" to describe, say, the remission of someone's cancer, but we know there must be a scientific explanation, even if we don't know what it is yet.
Oh dear, oh dear; Pell has no idea what he's talking about.
I like how calm Dawkins is
Lol, seriously. Only appealed to crowd for emotional support several times. That made me laugh so hard. What a pussie. His mother would be so proud.
You mean you love how wrong he is….
He’s just letting Pell dig his own hole 😂
So, if the more "modern" or "liberal" Christian dismisses Adam and Eve as myth (along with the Flood, people living to 900 years, etc.), where exactly in the Bible does the mythology and magic turn into being "fact" again?
Wiki: “According to findings released by Australia's Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse in 2020, Pell knew of child sexual abuse by clergy by the 1970s but did not take adequate action to address it. Pell said he was "surprised" and that the commission's views "are not supported by evidence".”
He may have been right to some degree, that is the problem.
These commissions etc are toothless Tigers in Australia, recommendations are all that stem from them & even they are rarely enforced. No prosecutions etc these commissions are just a government goto to tidy up the frayed edges & seal the box with the subject matter in it.
It’s these findings that led some to lay false molestation claims against Pell which saw him jailed & later acquitted.
I was molested by seven different men before I was Ten yrs old - I don’t for one minute think Pell is a predator.
If I'm not mistaken, Cardinal Pell was formally charged and sentenced for abusing children in his church. He mocked the very idea that priests do that on this program. The irony would be sweet if it weren't so disgusting.
He protected pederasts within the Catholic Church by moving them around regionally etc, was ultimately targeted for such systemic ignorance for Victims or Religion & serving both Pope & Beelzebub.
Thinnest of cases & it was quite clear to the judiciary on Appeal that he had no case to answer for child sexual assault & cleared, had conviction quashed, died a Free Man & a Cardinal.
Regards
I don't know what is more shocking the ignorance of the Cardinal (who has since being convicted for child molestation incidentally) or the fact that around half the audience seem to agree with him and worse still are laughing at Richard Dawkins logic!
Get it right - his conviction was appealed and was overturned or nullified.
Prove it. Prove Pell molested. You false moralist and dishonest atheist.
@@Nat88123 It was proved in court
@@aac427 it was in vic courts. Dismissed in high court of Aust
@@Nat88123 He was convicted unanimously by the jury . He was released on a legal technicality.
Why is Pell speaking as a scientific expert? Ridiculous.
He's an expert on little boy's anatomy.
People who start to clap when they think something profound is being said because they can't think for themselves.
1:10 Pell is being dishonest in his paraphrasing of Darwin. On page 93 of his autobiography Darwin was describing how he was in the past a theist, but on the very next page (94) he says, "The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an Agnostic."
An agnostic is, by the definition of Protagoras, a person who believes in the existence of God or the divine or the supernatural but understands that this God is unknown or unknowable to humans. An agnostic is not an atheist but acutely aware of the limitations of human understanding of the transcendent.
@@christianeberhart8568 . Protagoras didn't speak English. Try using an English dictionary if you want to understand the words of an Englishman.
catholics in the audience looked in shock
I dare say over 50% of Catholics would feel a bit shabby if they viewed it stephen tarr.
Cardinal Pell was right about the infusion of the soul, for the linguist Noam Chomsky said in his books "Why Only Us" and "The Science of Language" that human language developed within only one person (a single mutation) 70k years ago. That could be Adam. But like Cardinal Pell said, Genesis 1-11 is more of a theological poem than a science textbook.
Could be Adam..? Lol.
About 1962 I was at primary school run by Sisters of Mercy nuns. Another kid asked what happened to natives (Blacks) when they died. The nun said they just rotted because they did not know about God. So I assume she thought that people got a soul when they were told about God. And in those days protestants went to hell because they did not accept the Catholic God.
The issue is the fact that the so called. Cardinal is not a Christian . He is a man. A part of a business and he has employment . Cardinal. !
The art of answering (a) question without answering (the) question.
This is like watching a sober guy (RD) trying to humour a completely intoxicated patron during last call at the bar.
Pell's explanations were just embarrassing to hear.
Multiple charges of multiple offenses. Will take some doing to cover it up, but I am sure they will try.
Lupe I doubt that he's ever Molested anyone Physically but he's Raped MANY Mentally.
He's Culpable for covering up an Entire Region's Catholic Peadophilia Crimes in Victoria Australia, for Decades.
He'll never See WHITE SMOKE!
Oilsyle Staids why do you doubt that hes done it?
He was proclaimed non guilty.
It's no point discussing logic with someone who has a belief. Let them believe. I believe in the tooth fairy. Keeps my kids happy. The problem lies when then fight like its a fact, when they should just keep it in their realm of fantasy and respect that its NOT a fact.
How Dawkins remains relatively calm faced with such drivel is admirable
Why? Because he's usually agressive, sarcastic and cruel?
@@AdmiralofU2 no.
went to page 92 of Darwin’s autobiography….. the cardinal is lying because his quote of darwin was nowhere on that page or any around it 😂
Yes it is….
The last paragraph of page 92 :
“Another source of conviction in the existence of God, connected with the reason and not with the feelings, impresses me as having much more weight. This follows from the extreme difficulty or rather impossibility of conceiving this immense and wonderful universe, including man with his capacity of looking far backwards and far into futurity, as the result of blind chance or necessity. When thus reflecting I feel compelled to look to a First Cause having an intelligent mind in some”
@@rickdaniels1000 That's Deism not Theism
I just want to say that I appreciate that the Catholic church has ceded some arguments based on overwhelming evidence. It will be the end of the Church if it continues to do this going forward, but it is commendable none the less.
The catholic church will be the one of the main enforcers when the mark of the beast ..the beast system is instituted..catholism strays from the truth.
Evolution is foolishness...i can say that..and ill never believe it..maybe yhe big bang..ofc bcs of God..the big bang could have happened..evolution tho is crap.
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I'm a confirmed atheist and wish I had Richard Dawkins' intellect. I feel compelled to say that he didn't seem to bring his A game to this episode. I doubt he would have convinced any creationists in the audience.
He probably doubted it too, would have been a waste a time and effort.
I should imagine your intellect exceeds that of Dawkins.
Confirms for yourself that something came from nothing, that’s interesting👍
@@mahmoudismail7761 creation ex nihilo is a religious concept. Different belief systems just choose to stop at god and anyone that questions further is wrong or a sinner/infidel.
Case in point: You say god made everything. What did god make everything from?
@@adamchristensen2648 religious concepts don’t “just stop at god”, he is the beginning. There is nothing before him. God says be and it is.
"When was soul injected" is an interesting question.
And what then IS soul?
One could say "we just made it up" as an explanation of awareness.
My contemplation (not to be confused with a claim of absolute reality) is that soul is everywhere, like space, but expresses itself differently in different species.
We, who are quite full of ourselves, claim to be the only ones who have one.
I disagree as a result, related to the following observations: The researcher Cleve Backster discovered back in '62, that plants, even individual cells are able to communicate and can display memory. How would such be possible, if there was no common undercurrent similar to 'soul' i.e. something that cannot be materially measured and recognized?
Wenn we assign/label things and ideas, we begin a process of limitation. Science is guilty of that, and so is religion. Science has the advantage of concretely explaining certain physical aspects.
Religion on the other hand, seems to largely rely on hunches and guesses. These were eventually written down once "evolution" arrived at a point, where scratched symbols enabled us to record thoughts. Emboldened by that, we felt no shame in proclaiming such to be claimed as evidence.
If there is 'soul' it may be simplest to describe it as 'I Am' or 'It Is'.
Everything else just complicates matters.
I'd like to make some points to move forward this idea. You don't necessarily need self awareness to imply memory and communication. Even if plant cells can do that, that doesn't prove the existence of plant awareness, as it's something that computers can do easily without being aware of that. Communication+memory is a great evolutionary combination that can rise from genetic selection (as could be a "fake" sense of awareness). Beside this, i like to tell myself that self awareness is an emerging factor, not something inherited by a mean of awareness.
EDIT: i would also like to suggest that the very process that concepts and ideas is inherently connected to life itself, as it's something that let's us manipulate the world. In pure physics, there are no "entities", just facts and consequences.
You could still argue though that science itself is a human process that goes under the same categorization of reality, and so even that is broken art its core
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@@alexrattray8807 No.
In Jewish theology, Adam and Lilith was the primate story. Then along the Christians, changing the Jewish myth to Adam and Eve.
and then Muslims changed it to Adam and Hawwa 😂
"If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself."
- Albert Einstein
Wrong the Neanderthals did art and drawings in caves.
news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/02/neanderthals-cave-art-humans-evolution-science/
The last place you will find a genuine, reasonable and proper defense of the word of God is from a Catholic priest. Catholicism is to Christianity what pro wrestling is to Olympic sports.
The whole of Christianity, actually all religions, is bad faith. There isn’t a single thing said here that I haven’t heard from baptists, Protestants, and Methodists over and over. Those are just the ones I talk with the most, I’ve also heard Mormons make the same types of arguments if you count Mormons as Christian.
I would bet that the vast vast majority of people would not be able to explain what biblical Christianity actually is.
It’s hilarious, religious people can change the story of creation to what ever they want in order to legitimise their belief.
Satan works in many places
According to the New Testament, Jesus is a direct decedent of Adam. If Adam is fictional, where does that leave the Christian?
karsaka sdasfa its over millions of years moron.
Sometimes is better to keep quiet, to reveal own stupidity this way is quite shame. And look at your comment I am not sure, if human and ape cannot have baby.
Richard Castaldo what does time have to do with breeding humans and apes. There were no humans millions years ago.
Jerry V The definition of a species is that members of one species can only breed with other members of the same species and produce fertile young.
karsaka sdasfa evolution happens over millions of years. It's not one species turns into another species in one generation. Small changes in individuals add up to big changes thru millions of years, that's all evolution means. If you can prove thevearth is 6 thousand yeArs old or whatever..... good luck to you.
Dawkins makes a good point about the origin of "the soul". What Pell forgets to mention is that the human soul is in some sense "immortal" without explaining how this fits into the evolutionary framework.
Alright...you explain that then.
@@adamchristensen2648 There is only one soul or one universal consciousness.
I feel sorry for Mr Dawkins having to debate with Cardinal Pell about evolution. Because its like trying to play chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to knock the pieces over, shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
Well said!!😂
One must commend the Cardinal’s Interpretation skills. Still very entertaining fiction.
Pell had and has wrong bible for sure
I was brought up a Roman Catholic. I also went to Church of England schools in England. I was clearly taught that Adam and Eve was a way of explaining evolution to early Christians. I do not practice the faith i was brought up in and still think the Adam and Eve story was a way of explaining life in simple terms - not scientific as a lot of scientific knowledge, including about evolution only became known much later in history. I see no problem with this. For example, early churches are known to have been, in many cases, covered in colourful pictures and later Stained Glass windows, intended to tell the stories in the Bible. That was because the vast majority of people could not read and the Church didn't want ordinary people reading the Bible.. it was to be read and interpreted by learned clergy. I agree, its not a literal truth. I also agree its a religious story, Adam and Eve, like so many of them. i do think there was probably an historic holy man name Jesus or similar.
How was it just used to explain evolution? Doesnt the bible have the actual names of these people...of even adam n eve's kids. Their kids' kids....and their kids' kids names. To me it sounds like its written as if its all fact. They literally have the whole family tree in there lol. But no....its just used as an example Lol
Then what do you do in church sipping the blood of jesus as wine and eating his flesh as bread- symbolic cannibalism- no wonder the church sent its minions across the globe to conquer land and cannibalise other cultures😡
Well said and agreed.
The clueless Cardinal. The unholy catholic church has done much more harm than good.
WHERE DID MOSES GET HIS INFORMATION FROM?
Even though his reasoning was crazy, it’s great to see the church embracing this. Even though I’m atheist, it’s good they are trying to catch up
Evolution is rubbish..0 evidence of such
@@alexrattray8807 there are mountains of evidence
@@mr16325 there may be evidence of the big bang but that evidence does not explain how all things..before the universe existed nor does it explain how the universe could be supreme(either something came from nothing, the origin of the universe always existed(making it supreme) or a supreme being outside the universe creating it.
A supreme being that transcends the universe is the most logical of the three and more provable..through the Bible which 'coincidentally' explains the world logically from a 'creationist' point of view.
@@mr16325 the big bang may have happened..idk it is possible for an omnipotent being....but the evolution theory is a lie and there is no evidence..retestable evidence that proves we came from a single organism that evolved of itself to the complexity we have tdy..thats illogical..i can liken it to a tornado assembling a boeing 777 from scraps
@@alexrattray8807 there is archaeological, fossil, dna, homologous structures, and geography that prove the theory. Which should we talk about