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Great comparison Joseph. Always something useful on this channel👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you Doug. Appreciate that coming from you sir!
Yep no bogus learning and teaching channel.
It's similar to why I prefer. 325 pitch over 3/8 pitch on mid-size 50-60 cc chainsaws. It's just so much smoother.
Couldn't really believe how much a difference there was, especially in editing.
There is less friction cutting through wood when using nano chain.
@@StoptheLieyup. The .325 with the small drivers (less than .050) were designed with climbing in mind.
The 1/4 pitch and .325 chain on the top handle saw is a real gamechanger. My Stihl 194T came with a 1/4 pitch guarded semi-chisel chain. I have now replaced it with a Panther unguarded chain. It cuts really well and you can bore cut with it. I am hoping WCS will make a muffler for it soon. I haven't tried .325 Mini, but I see lots of CZcamsrs using it. Thanks for the video, I am sure your subscribers will appreciate the info in your video.
Panther kits are still available?? When was looking around on the webs everyone was out of stock
@@ChippyOutdoors Chain is definitely available in the UK.
I had heard and watched people mention the different chains cutting smoother but until I experienced it myself, it really wasn't very real to me. Interesting how experience changes that. I would only buy the 2511T in the Nano version. It is truly that much better feeling. I think the safety chain is an effort to make the chain a little less jumpy I assume?
I thought August was talking about them some time ago and was there not an issue with the bar groove being out of spec or something? I could be VERY WRONG.... but I just feel like I remember something like that.
Yeah, the little runtime and minor tweaks put it more in line with how I imagined it would compare to the 2500 stock to stock. And the .325 nano conversion looks to have made a drastic improvement overall!👍🏻
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100% AP! I think there is still some improvement to be had with some more time on it but I do not think I am going to make it. It may just get shipped off before then.
Saw suppliers is the best place for echo. Bought my 501p, 620pw, and my 9010 blower from them.
Super cool that you shared that! I do not remember that being the case at all. Thanks for watching once again sir!
Absolutely, I have spent thousands with them and excellent service! They even have thrown in free products before with my orders.
@@zeromark202 Mark, I may be looking for another 620 sir.
Will sell the new one we ran, $500 with 24” bar and will sell with the wrap handle. I really need the money from that one. Please get the word out, $525 shipped also.
@zeromark202 alright man!
The small driver .325 chain seems to have been developed specifically with climbing in mind to provide the least possible resistance when in the wood. My brother has the 5 series Husqvarna top handle and that thing is a beast with the factory small driver .325 and spins around 15k.
Wow! That would be an absolute ripper indeed! I cannot wait to get a little more work into this saw ASAP and I am thinking it is going to get sent out for porting shortly.
Looking forward to seeing what's next on the 2511t
me too! I am coming up on my long week so saws are going to take a back seat for a minute.... oh well.
👍👍 man that’s a smooth chain!
very much so CF! Much nicer option in comparison. That would have been very nice when I climbed the other day. I shoulda tested this first but have run out of time to do things in the best order all of the time.
The only other person I have seen climb with a bucksqueeze 👍 keep it up brother
only cause it is what I have but I figure, why not!? There is certainly limitations with it and it certainly helps when the tree is shaped like a pole. I really am interested in more traditional and advanced Tree climbing methods. Flip line and ropes with ascenders and all that. Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
Definitely love sawsuppliers. I have a 271T I bought from Thema bout a year ago and I like it pretty well, but decided I wanted something a little lighter. So last week I ordered a 2511TN with 12" nano bar. Couldn't beat their prices. Really excited to run it on a job soon!
I think you will like it quite well! The .325 nano is VERY good and I am thrilled with how light this 2511T really is. Pretty cool saw for sure!
@@oakiewoodsman good to hear! I am looking forward to the lighter weight as well. I'm also glad they went ahead and added that option for the nano bar configuration. I don't think it was available last year as an option when I was looking at the 2511T.
Ya, I am not sure when it came out. Funny how they have a different model number for things like that. For example the 2511t/tn 620P/PW. Husqvarna sells a 562XP and you can order whatever bar you want with it for the most part. No special numbers because of this and that. Full wrap, no difference in part number... just an accesory. The only one I can think of is the XPG for the heated handles.
I'm highly impressed with the nano.
You would like it really well Mike!
Seems better for sure!
It sure is Ted! Thank you sir!
That made a really nice difference! Nice video comparison.
Thank you man! I really was ignorant to the improvement possible and now that I know, I would not intentionally order the 3/8LP setup on probably any top handle if there was an option. It is interesting how the battery saw likes it a bit more and I think it has to do with the torque of the motor. The bigger chunks being removed allows for a smoother cut due to the ability to apply a little more pressure. Thanks again man!
A upgrade must on 2511t’s great video on comparison between the two chain types.
Thank you sir! I appreciate you taking the time to stop by and watch again man! I was happy with this conversion for sure!
I just bought an Echo 2511TN. The Egan pipe and WCS mufflers are said to improve the performance of the 2511tn. It would be interesting to see a side by side comparison of these two popular mufflers to answer the question if it's worth changing the stock muffler.
It think you will really like that saw! You have a great idea as well. Thanks for watching
I knew the new setup was going to make a difference. But that was more than I expected. I run a 1/4 pitch on my ported 2511 and will never go back to the 3/8lp
I am 100% with you. I assumed there must be something to it but this was astonishing to me. I knew it felt better but once I got to edit, WOW!
Nice Job Joe
Thank you RB!
Brother, they sell a 2511tn thats already converted! Its like $20 more.
I got mine and put the wcs muffler on, the dogs and had it ported by a local guy here. Its the only saw where as soon as i use it, im grinning ear to ear…
Did have some problems with the tune after the mods, took a while to dial it in
I did this same thing for my MS180 And its a NEW saw. The differnce is insane. All you need to do is change the Bar and Chain on the 180 and your GOLDEN. I used a Stihl Full chisel chain. I really didnt like the tiny chain it was a joke. Big tooth ms180 is a Kick ass little saw now. I did open up the muffler a little bit and took out the clogged spark arrestor lol.
I appreciarte you sharing this man. So, with the 170/180 they do not have an adjustable carb. Did the saw run well after being able to move some more air through it? The small chain is a game changer on these smaller saws for sure and I am super happy to have the opportunity to do this to my 2511T. Thanks again!
@@oakiewoodsman It ran Better after. It never really was at all impressive stock. And obviously its not a Monster but at around 7lbs and can deal with stuff up to 8 to 10 inches no problem at all. Its super handy. And its got plenty of snot to pull a 16 inch bar. I didnt change my sprocket either it works Perfectly.
I have the STIHL Part numbers for the bar and chain in my shop if you want. On the bar it even says ms180 on the package so if anyone says... You cant do that bla bla.. Ive been doing it for 3 years off and on and it works perfectly. Ive used it on over 10 tree jobs cutting limbs and smaller trees NO issue. NO its not a pro saw for 50 hour weeks of use... But a small light saw its just nice to run. I dont know how these guys only run 18lb falling saws all day... My back would be toast..
I think it depends on the type of trees you are processing. If you were falling only stick straight trees that are shaped like pole, limbing up a tree with a 28" or 32" makes a lot of sense. Working on a down field tree. with massive limbs sticking everywhere is a different story and a light nimble saw goes a long way. I am blessed to have both kinds of trees on my property so it has been mind blowing to see both disciplines have a place. I love my 20" bar and I love my 28" bars. Works well for me in different scenarios.
Nice comparison! You was up pretty high in that tree 😮
Fun stuff Tom! Thanks again man.
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You got it tuned in Joe.
Far better indeed. Look forward to getting more time on it and letting it loosen up a bit. This chain was far better for sure!
That .325 nano is definitely less jumpy
SO much smoother!
I have a homeowner saw CS-400. Can that saw be converted to .325 nano? It has a 18" bar.
I honestly couldn’t tell ya on that one. What does it have now? Maybe someone will help out here in the comment section. 🤞
Personally I will NEVER buy an electric anything, especially a chainsaw.
No matter how much they try and ram it down our throats.
Cool video tho, very good job layin out the differences
Thanks for watching and sharing. So to be clear, it is not whether or not a tool performs superior for the task it is more or less a principal type issue for you? I fully understand where you’re coming from in that direction. However, I also want to use the best tool. I can possibly use for the job at hand. That doesn’t mean that I would even suggest that everyone should buy a battery power chainsaw. Quite the contrary, if you have any amount of work that you need to accomplish, and you only want to one. I think a small two strokes saw is the best way to go. The battery does, however have its place in my lineup of tools to use in different scenarios. I am happy to own it however the 2511 T is going to end up, being very powerful shortly once it gets ported.
@@oakiewoodsman Yeah it's the principal. I watched all this start as Trump was going out of office, I knew then what was coming. ALL the ads for small equipment were pushing people towards electric options. The whole Carbon Tax, climate change BS is just that BS and I will not support it with my money. I would rather go back to working a arm powered saw that's how committed to it I am. I dont care what other people want to use thats their business and more power to them if they want electric powered small engine equipment but I don't and won't use them or buy them.
I certainly know there is a push and appreciate you writing back. Just some food for thought however if I may. I have a Ryobi pole saw that was purchased during his term and the tech was not new back then. I do not agree with the push to electric being better for the environment. There is a ton of waste and lots of disposable products being made because of it. Might it be governments and companies working in conjunction to sell more products? I personally believe that to be more of the case. I am a conservative friend and seriously appreciate your time. Have a good one and enjoy running them 2 stroke OPE. They are much more convenient and enjoyable to especially the louder they get! 😉
@@oakiewoodsman Yeah electric stuff has been around for a while, there was just a major obvious industry wide push right as Trump was going out.
Honestly theres no difference in the flavor of tyrant, republican or democrat its all fake, they are just people enriching themselves and destroying the country in the process, we regular folks are what they consider serfs and dont matter. Its the tail wagging the dog.
This Carbon Tax, Climate Change nonsense is all about taxing people to be alive, I know the absence of my money wont make a difference and im near to the end of my road anyway, but planting seeds my friend.
You are right about the government and corporations working together, most politicians are widely vested in a LOT of corporations. God help us all.
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Appreciate you DR. I was shocked at how much better this was for sure.
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Chaps ?
I recommend em for sure, especially while working. Thanks or sharing!
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Morning Todd! Thanks for watching another sir
@@oakiewoodsman took me a couple of hr to lol
that is so cool you would be that persistent!
@@oakiewoodsman I sometimes start them then something comes up and or I forget to watch for a while
Brother, they sell a 2511tn thats already converted! Its like $20 more.
I got mine and put the wcs muffler on, the dogs and had it ported by a local guy here. Its the only saw where as soon as i use it, im grinning ear to ear…
Did have some problems with the tune after the mods, took a while to dial it in
I need to get the dog on this thing. I cannot believe it came with NOTHING! I believe i mention the "TN" model in this video or another... I forget now. I purposely got the T so it would match and be comparable to the DCS-2500T saw. Thank you again and I look forward to getting some work done on this machine.