How To Use Quartal and Quintal Harmony and Melody In Your Compostions

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  • čas přidán 28. 09. 2016
  • In this episode we explore how to use Quartal (Based on 4ths) and Quintal (Based on 5ths) chord Harmony and Melody in Your Compositions. It has been used by composters such as Schoenberg, Berg, Webern, Bartok, Debussy, Scriabin, Hindemith, Stravinsky and Bernstein. It has also been used heavily by jazz artists such as Miles Davis, McCoy Tyner, Bill Evens, Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, George Benson, Pat Martino and Pat Metheny.
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Komentáře • 269

  • @unhealthytruthseeker
    @unhealthytruthseeker Před 6 lety +280

    Fifths move in a "brighter" direction while fourths move in a "darker" direction. To see this, note that a stack of 7 perfect fifths gives a Lydian scale (e.g. FCGDAEB = F-Lydian), which is the brightest mode of the diatonic scale, while a stack of 7 fourths gives a Locrian scale (e.g. FBbEbAbDbGbCb = F-Locrian), the darkest mode of the diatonic scale.

    • @Gapcloser
      @Gapcloser Před 5 lety +23

      That was a very insightful detail, thank you!

    • @appleihate5678
      @appleihate5678 Před 5 lety +31

      Also, Lydian is the inverse mode of Locrian.

    • @lordofchimichangas2302
      @lordofchimichangas2302 Před 5 lety +12

      I get an "ambiguous" feel when hearing fourths.

    • @Vent69420
      @Vent69420 Před 4 lety +2

      @@lordofchimichangas2302 thats prob cuz the locrian scale has a diminished fifth

    • @eucalyptus303
      @eucalyptus303 Před 3 lety +2

      Cool! Incredible insight into this pattern! And they’re both mirror images interval-wise, and a tri-tone apart. I had no idea🤔

  • @manifestgtr
    @manifestgtr Před 7 lety +110

    i think what makes 4th and 5th based harmony so nice is that it really straddles the line between consonance and dissonance...it's that nice "in between" sound that isn't as friendly as a 3rd or 6th but isn't as jarring as a b9 or a tritone

    • @kolobcanyon8920
      @kolobcanyon8920 Před 6 lety +4

      I wonder what stacking tritones sounds like... goes to piano

    • @kolobcanyon8920
      @kolobcanyon8920 Před 6 lety +47

      Never mind. There's only two notes if you stack tritones.. duh

    • @karlrovey
      @karlrovey Před 6 lety +5

      But you can include tri-tones in quartal and quintal harmonies.

    • @die_schlechtere_Milch
      @die_schlechtere_Milch Před 5 lety +4

      a tritone is an augmented forth.

    • @kiren3168
      @kiren3168 Před 5 lety +7

      @@kolobcanyon8920 stack minor 2nd lol have fun

  • @AnthonyWoodruffe
    @AnthonyWoodruffe Před 6 lety +55

    Those Quartals remind me of the opening to Star Trek.

    • @zitacarno4443
      @zitacarno4443 Před 4 lety +7

      I once had an interesting conversation with McCoy Tyner about harmonic concepts and approaches, and Irealized that both of us picked them up from one main source: the music of Paul Hindemith, one of my very favorite 20th-century symphonic composers. He was using the quartal and the quintal voicings particularly in his middle-period works, both orchestral, chamber-music and solo-instrument, and I for one got absolutely hooked on that sound. So when I would hear McCoy play them I got that goosebump of recognition---at we must realize that Hindemith was, among other things, a bebopper.

  • @stefan1024
    @stefan1024 Před 5 lety +11

    I experimented with stacked 4ths and microtonality the last days. I stacked 7 notes, spaced by randomly choosen microtonal intervals in the range from major 3rd to tritone. The results are very colorful and vibrant, also emotional expressive (more complex than just minor = sad or dominant 7 = tense), suprisingly musical and jazzy (I play melodies in normal tunings over these chords). It's not even that dissonant most of the times. I guess it's because the intervals are large enough to avoid too much direct friction between the frequencies, also in combination all the little tensions seem to even each other out.

  • @AimeeNolte
    @AimeeNolte Před 7 lety +105

    Wonderful, insightful video, yet again! Thank you!

  • @JamesWatsonComposer
    @JamesWatsonComposer Před 6 lety +31

    Lol. Wow, that was an accurate assumption. "Now to many of you, the first exposure to quartal harmony would've been in the Miles Davis classic, 'So What'."

    • @leeboulineau8100
      @leeboulineau8100 Před 4 lety

      If not "So What" , then Herbie Hancock's "Maiden Voyage".

    • @simmme
      @simmme Před 3 lety

      Or Studio Ghibli.

  • @MatthewBreithaupt
    @MatthewBreithaupt Před 4 lety +17

    5:22 Whitesnake Is This Love
    6:19 Kraftwerk Trans Europe Express

  • @jeffrogers210
    @jeffrogers210 Před 6 lety +7

    Two stacked fifths, separated by a half step (C, G, D, Eflat, BflAT, F) is one of my favorites. Also, ELP's Tarkus is made of quartal harmony and melody.

  • @jobemusic2770
    @jobemusic2770 Před 3 lety +2

    I can finally understand the value in this video! The first time I watched it, it just went over my head as to how it can be used haha! But after watching your channel for a while and exploring the sound of Miles and Coltrane, a universe of unexplored sounds have opened up! Thank you ever so much Rick!

  • @johnnewell552
    @johnnewell552 Před 2 lety +2

    Rick’s love of Lydian tonalities (aug 4th) has opened my eyes to this beautiful sound and it’s possibilities. So much to explore on that alone and I appreciate it so much!

  • @MrDrummer316
    @MrDrummer316 Před 3 lety +3

    I keep watching this, stunning sounds full of emotion. I would feel blessed to know half of what you have forgotten. Thanks for your great work.

  • @RichardASalisbury1
    @RichardASalisbury1 Před 7 lety +9

    To me, one of the most magical moments in music is the middle movement of Bartok's 2nd Piano Concerto, which starts with stacked 5ths in the strings. From a historical perspective, I find it fascinating, almost inexplicable, that Charles Ives anticipated such usage by at least a quarter century in "Central Park in the Dark"--though Ives alternated fifths and maybe fourths with passages of less open, more dissonant chords. I found this video (you are new to me) very interesting, and maybe helpful to me in my own composition; I will probably recur to your videos.

  • @ETtexthome
    @ETtexthome Před 7 lety +9

    8:09 - sounds very similar to the end of Purple Rain! Great work, Rick. All of your video lessons are extremely inspiring, eye-opening, and refreshing.

  • @lovrogolac5243
    @lovrogolac5243 Před 7 lety +1

    "So what that is" when reffering to "So what" enters a whole new dimension!
    Phenomenal videos Rick, precise and direct with an awesome distribution of knowledge. I'm extremely grateful for the help :) As a guitarist, songwriter and video game/aspiring film composer, you're really the perfect match. Thank you so much good sir!!!

  • @PhilGooch
    @PhilGooch Před 7 lety +7

    This is one of the most informative and well-explained tutorials on putting music theory into practice that I've seen. Brilliant stuff, thanks so much for this Rick, you are a fantastic educator.

  • @hannahjordan1515
    @hannahjordan1515 Před 6 lety +5

    I'm so happy I found your channel! You've helped me so much with my composition. I'm studying a bachelors degree in music and was lacking inspiration, but you've given me loads so thank you

  • @Predictor13
    @Predictor13 Před 7 lety +1

    This knowledge about harmonies based on fourths and fifths and their different combinations is very inspiring and allows us to take our compositions to another level. Very valuable collection material. Thanks Rick!

  • @arthurmee
    @arthurmee Před 4 lety +9

    This is third time I've watched this. Just need to remind myself and enjoy your clear and inspiring teaching Rick. Thank you once again. I've got your book and transcriptions . . . :-)

  • @martinskanal
    @martinskanal Před 5 lety +1

    Love it! What a great dude you are! Sharing the love and the music...all the power to you!

  • @roberta4266
    @roberta4266 Před 3 lety

    Absolutely wonderful!!! Thank you, Rick for explaining all this. I'm very grateful.

  • @maduroholdings
    @maduroholdings Před 5 lety +3

    I thought you were a rock guitar guy but you are waaaaayyy more than that. a multi instrumentalist Yoda. with a touch of Spock simply amazing I played keys in church for 18 years I'm taking a break to build my guitar, bass and production chops but this was a nice reminder of my bread and butter instrument. thank you sir for your insightful sharing. and keeping this music alive

  • @goredwings1212
    @goredwings1212 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for this! I have to figure out how to choose the right notes for a quartal harmony to improvise in a jazzy piece my ensemble is performing--this is a very new concept to me and I've been pretty stiff and hesitant with it the last few rehearsals. This gave me a lot to work from and helped me see how flexible this style of harmony can be. Much appreciated!

  • @TomRivieremusic
    @TomRivieremusic Před 6 lety +1

    Beautiful voicing opening new horizons.Love it.

  • @MrRichulan
    @MrRichulan Před 6 lety +1

    I like the high level lessons of professor Beato! Very educational!

  • @fkahs
    @fkahs Před 7 lety

    as always... this is pure GOLD! thanks Rick!

  • @juancarlos-dx1or
    @juancarlos-dx1or Před 7 lety

    Just discovered your channel and so far i think is the best one in youtube dedicated to music education,congratulations from Argentina, and keep the good work!!

  • @jfo3000
    @jfo3000 Před 6 lety

    Amazing sounds Rick and explanations, thanks for all that you've done for us.

  • @lassewilliamsson9152
    @lassewilliamsson9152 Před 7 lety +2

    This is so inspiring, thanks for sharing Rick! Berg violin concerto is starting with a lot of stapled fifths, a good classical example of Quintal harmony. :)

  • @badradish2116
    @badradish2116 Před 5 lety

    this is probably your most useful video i've yet seen. gonna need to come back to this several times.

  • @patbreacadh
    @patbreacadh Před 4 lety

    Excellent lesson! Thanks, Rick.

  • @ericprincen3345
    @ericprincen3345 Před 6 lety

    Very inspired by this. Lots of fun today. Thanks, Rick.

  • @RasiRon
    @RasiRon Před rokem +1

    Fantastic I wish more people would watch your video this one particularly

  • @Sophiestelle
    @Sophiestelle Před 6 lety

    Thank you Rick for sharing your knowledge; this is a very useful for my job!

  • @amenramuxikllc5658
    @amenramuxikllc5658 Před 4 lety +5

    WOW, THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.

  • @rjp63vip
    @rjp63vip Před 7 lety

    Wow! This is beautifully Sublime! Thank you!

  • @zumasuma5489
    @zumasuma5489 Před 2 lety

    Thank you! Best teacher ever !

  • @Jdman5000
    @Jdman5000 Před 6 lety

    Stunning video ! Brilliant...

  • @knucklesprayer
    @knucklesprayer Před 7 lety +30

    Podría estudiar todo el resto de este año y el qué viene con tus vídeos, Guitarra, Jazz, Composición, Film Scoring, Entrenamiento Auditivo. Todo lo qué necesito en mi vida.
    Thanks my friend!

    • @alfonshomac
      @alfonshomac Před 7 lety +15

      _"I could study the rest of this year and next with your videos. Guitar, Jazz, Composition, Film Scoring, Ear Training. It's all I need in my life."_.

    • @gerardwhitemusic8214
      @gerardwhitemusic8214 Před 6 lety +2

      lindas palabras amigo! beautiful words my friend! :-)

  • @pieceoffake7443
    @pieceoffake7443 Před 3 lety +1

    This video is so good. Had no idea you made this kind of content back in the day.

  • @corilfl
    @corilfl Před 3 lety +5

    At parties, I just keep strumming my guitar without fretting and saying "Look, I'm like Miles Davis now!". They don't like it very much.

  • @gregbartlett5818
    @gregbartlett5818 Před 6 lety +1

    Love your video lessons. I've been playing for decades off on and on (earning a living gets in the way) - your lessons are easy to understand but always so insightful. Can't wait to get back to my keyboards....:-))

  • @DaveSolazzo
    @DaveSolazzo Před 7 lety +1

    love these videos! thanks again!

  • @gradypatterson1948
    @gradypatterson1948 Před 4 lety +3

    I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Alan Parsons Project's "Rubber Universe" as an example of Quartal Melody! The lead synth makes an arpeggiated Quartal tritone the melodic theme. Just enough swing is added to make it funky and bright and bouncy - a great example of why APP's instrumentals are so great!

  • @user-by4sk5vk8d
    @user-by4sk5vk8d Před 7 lety

    Really loving these sounds

  • @SamFugarino
    @SamFugarino Před rokem

    I'll be honest. this stuff is way over my head, but hearing Rick tell it is wonderful. He's a teacher.

  • @lukejav818
    @lukejav818 Před 6 lety

    Hey Rick i loved this lesson and some of those voicings are just incresible. I would like to see more of this stuff applied on guitar

  • @vBlackVFX
    @vBlackVFX Před 4 lety +5

    11:10 gives instant Keith Emerson vibes!

  • @William_sJazzLoft
    @William_sJazzLoft Před 3 lety

    Hi Rick. This is an excellent video. I was particularly fascinated with the Aeolian and Dorian arpeggiations. And then between 16:54 and 18:34, you demonstrated parallel fourths. That in particular kept my attention. It took me a little bit but I figured out what you did. And yes those movements are hip. And certainly no discussion of quartal harmony is complete without mentioning McCoy Tyner. I have to mention Acknowledgement from A Love Supreme. At one point during the tune, McCoy does a progression ascending and descending in half steps using stacked fourths. It just blows me away every time that I listen. I know that tutors and instructors generally use Impressions or So What as a point of reference. But I think that Acknowledgement is a case study in the practical application of quartal harmony. Thx 4 this video - Will ☺😎👍

  • @Tmidiman
    @Tmidiman Před 6 lety

    Great stuff Rick!

  • @musicgeek246
    @musicgeek246 Před 5 lety +9

    Love your videos Rick. "Production wise" - would you consider using an "over the shoulder" shot when you demo on keyboard? Maybe it's just me, but I would find it easier to take in what you're doing from the orientation of a keyboard player rather than having to reverse the image mentally. Thank you.

  • @freddymunguia9810
    @freddymunguia9810 Před 7 lety +1

    You should really make a video explaining in detail how is modal voicing performed and voicing over extended dominants. Great as usual, Rick, love your videos ❤.

  • @ArgoBeats
    @ArgoBeats Před 6 lety

    beautiful, just beautiful..

  • @giantessmaria
    @giantessmaria Před 7 lety +1

    reminds me a lot of Aaron Copeland ....thanks Rick, another fantastic lesson!

  • @gerardwhitemusic8214
    @gerardwhitemusic8214 Před 6 lety

    really excellent video on quartal voicings!

  • @igveri
    @igveri Před 6 lety

    fantastic! thank you so much!!

  • @carriersignal
    @carriersignal Před 4 lety +2

    Those ascending 4ths always reminds me of the synth riff in the theme music to "CHiPs" from back in the 80's.

  • @Tazmanian_Ninja
    @Tazmanian_Ninja Před 5 lety

    Arigato, Master Beato! 🙏🏼

  • @vintageclouds9510
    @vintageclouds9510 Před 4 lety +2

    1:00 Intro of the animated series 'Recess'. Never knew I was hooked to Quartal and Quintal from the early teen.

  • @agamhamzah2924
    @agamhamzah2924 Před 5 lety

    You're my Guru.. thanks for share this

  • @indiefilmandmusic
    @indiefilmandmusic Před rokem

    Beautiful. Also, useful.

  • @brainey8
    @brainey8 Před 4 lety

    Thanks! hearing a lot of things that remind me of UK's "Thirty Years"!

  • @geniflute
    @geniflute Před 7 lety

    Love it!

  • @ithadimarco
    @ithadimarco Před 7 lety

    Thanks Rick!!!

  • @maestrocurtis8904
    @maestrocurtis8904 Před 5 lety +2

    I'm a music educator who Played in the Basie and Ellington orchestras and i really dig the simplicity of how you teach. keep up the great work my musical brother! gonna make sure my students start subscribing.

  • @vhollund
    @vhollund Před 4 lety

    Beautiful

  • @albertooliva2565
    @albertooliva2565 Před 6 lety

    bravo. very clear.

  • @RBRokade
    @RBRokade Před 6 lety

    Thanks for great tutorial

  • @scizatt
    @scizatt Před 7 lety

    Incredible! Sounds just like Thomas Newman's work in Shawshank!

  • @er.harjeetsingh6611
    @er.harjeetsingh6611 Před 2 lety

    Awesome lesson guru ji

  • @alessandroxxo
    @alessandroxxo Před 4 lety

    Love you, totally, thank you

  • @JeffAtkins-ol7uq
    @JeffAtkins-ol7uq Před 29 dny

    excellant lesson

  • @cerumen
    @cerumen Před 7 lety +13

    0:26 is also part of the opening of Disney's Recess (transposed, with another 4th stacked on top)

  • @carlosdurancomposer
    @carlosdurancomposer Před 7 lety +6

    Awesome, reminds me of the music of Joseph Schwantner

  •  Před 7 lety

    great lessons thanx

  • @christopherwilliams2092

    Yes wonderful

  • @goingfortheone1
    @goingfortheone1 Před 6 lety +34

    Some more examples:
    Stravinsky!
    Scriabin! Who based much of his musical language around the "mystic chord" which was largely quintal.
    Emerson, Lake & Palmer. The god damn entirety of Tarkus.

    • @StevenRosario2025
      @StevenRosario2025 Před 5 lety

      I'm not theory nut... just a lowly band director, but 19:08 is straight up rehearsal no. 49 of Rite of Spring's Spring Rounds. Except in that case it looks to be Eb quartal vs. Rick's played F.

    • @Aquatarkus96
      @Aquatarkus96 Před 4 lety +1

      Keith Emerson LOVES quartal harmony, it's all over his work and one of the things that set him apart from contemporaries like Banks and Wakeman

  • @Schrenkiboy
    @Schrenkiboy Před 7 lety

    great Videos!! One of my favorite quintal-voicings was missing though, the one only a half step away for the b3-b7-11 voicing... like that sound quite a bit...
    greetings from Germany, keep up the good work! Simon

  • @dleverington
    @dleverington Před 2 lety

    Great!

  • @danieltrudinger8890
    @danieltrudinger8890 Před 7 lety +1

    Nice!

  • @RochestersGotTalentbyPaulRefic

    your a few universes above me i love it

  • @pathaks1
    @pathaks1 Před 9 měsíci

    As a first time listener on quartal and quintal sounds, it is very exciting on particularly in voicing

  • @scottmckenna9164
    @scottmckenna9164 Před 5 lety

    A very public minded master at work.

  • @jackieturner4561
    @jackieturner4561 Před 3 lety +2

    Love those sounds. I notice some one said 4ths are darker and 5ths were brighter. Don't know if this is relevant but 4 4ths reach a minor 3rd. Whilst 5 5ths reach a major 3rd. Cheers

  • @mo0omo
    @mo0omo Před 5 lety +1

    Kurt Rosenwinkel’s work is full of Quintal harmony since around “Next Step”, then “Remedy” etc

  • @NicolasAiziczon
    @NicolasAiziczon Před 5 lety

    thank you thank you thank you!!

  • @jusplainmark
    @jusplainmark Před 5 lety

    Around 8:10, the voicings began reminding me of Ives' "Three Places in New England", 1st mvmt. That sound of stacked 4ths, with the main melodic interval/ motif based on minor thirds, or major-to-minor thirds. (The harmonization is more complex, of course- polychordal at times, but the stacked 4ths flavor is there)

  • @Soloist1983
    @Soloist1983 Před 3 lety +1

    First quartal chord I ever heard was in the movie Tremors, during the scene where they first get stuck on the rocks, replayed that scene for the chord like 50 times when I was 16

  • @DubCampbell
    @DubCampbell Před 6 lety +3

    Rick...PLEASE....I have to know! When you're making a video, what mic are you using and where is it placed? I can't see a mic but it sounds great for your voice and I want to learn how you do it. I don't think it's a lapel mic so is it a shotgun on your camera or ??? Thanks, I'm a huge 70 year old fan of yours...played guitar all my life professionally and don't know diddley...but thanks to you I'm coming along.
    Dub Campbell

  • @chicofariasguitar
    @chicofariasguitar Před 7 lety +13

    Congratulations for the chanel! Could you post something about Gospel Chords, Neo soul tritones, like new keyboardists uses in golspel music, artists like Trina Trine, Kim Burrel, Dobbie Powel, Cassandra O'neal and Cory Henry for example. Thanks!

    • @MrMangaman1
      @MrMangaman1 Před 5 lety +1

      Jeff Schneider covers a lot of those topics in videos that are very in depth, seriously consider checking those out if you haven't already, Kerry 2 Smooth covers the same topics but from a guitar perspective, and related to specific songs, again worth checking if you haven't already

  • @raymonddegennaro3097
    @raymonddegennaro3097 Před 6 lety

    Rick, Love your videos. You mentioned another video where you talk about compound 5ths on guitar. I couldn't find that one based on the titles. Do you recall which video that was?

  • @JRandallS
    @JRandallS Před 5 lety +1

    20:47 I think you might have said that F to B was a perfect fourth. I love this stuff. Great soloing ideas. Oh and your rack is killing me with those Neve's and all...I subscribed today.

  • @zlippery1
    @zlippery1 Před 6 lety

    Love ths sounds of that keyboard! Please Rick, what model?

  • @ricardolacquan
    @ricardolacquan Před 4 lety

    A lot of Lyle Mays stuff can be found on this lesson . Thanks allot!

  • @sonorstudio1
    @sonorstudio1 Před 7 lety

    That F Mixolydian - G Aeolian triggers me to studie, that's fantastic ! Yeah than comes that plaining thing ! Oewha, like I've been waiting for that.

  • @sver3
    @sver3 Před 5 lety +11

    6:35, also Kraftwerk, trans europ express.. :)

  • @wefysan58
    @wefysan58 Před 6 lety

    cool stuff

  • @MrChancle84
    @MrChancle84 Před 5 lety

    Hi Rick! I'm Manuel from Uruguay .Thanks for the channel. Could you make a video talking about the concept: Dominant chords without dominant function?
    except for the berklee harmony books, I couldn't find any other videor or books how talk about that concept.
    Thanks!!!!!!!!

  • @jteichma
    @jteichma Před 5 lety +1

    Astounding Rick, but saddening too as I fear I'll never come close.

  • @pedromartins6904
    @pedromartins6904 Před 7 lety +3

    Love your lessons Rick, could you please do a video about negative harmony please?

    • @Oscar-bv5fe
      @Oscar-bv5fe Před 6 lety +1

      Pedro Martins Jacob Collier has a couple of recent videos on here that might start you off

    • @pedromartins6904
      @pedromartins6904 Před 6 lety +1

      yes I know, but my question was done before those videos were uploaded. Anyway, it´s still a new and complex concept that I would like if Rick could discuss and explain better

    • @donallfinn
      @donallfinn Před 6 lety

      Negative Harmony? Da Fuq?

  • @JordanPool13
    @JordanPool13 Před 5 lety +21

    All I hear is LOZ Ocarina of Time with that string patch

    • @KlareAudio
      @KlareAudio Před 4 lety +1

      Jordan Pool right? Sounds like the part where you pick up the master sword