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We Fixed the Copart $300 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix Wide Track - Then it Broke BAD!
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- čas přidán 8. 02. 2020
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Pontiac: *Running and driving great*
Randy: It has no issues!
Pontiac: Oh we’ll see about that.
Hahaha exactly
Evan Melton 😂😂😂💀
So Randy...used car dealers can't pass when its this happens. Here in US the cars pass a 100k or 10 years nobody car the car anymore. why? becouse just $500 down and get the other one. I fix many cars for dealers all cars have same problems DONT CHANGED THE OIL! oilpumps worm out vvt valves plugd camshafts lifters timing. all problem coming bec no oilchange. I respect to you bec you did the right way to fix that junk. no worries i have now 2015 chevy spark that is a junk too. 🤣🤣🤣
Jack Schissler Lol. That your G6 in the picture? Looks clean!
Jack Schissler Nice! Still driving it, hopefully?
"She has no iss..." Oops!
😂😂😂😂
John Pereira she has no iss.... oh shit🤣🤣🤣
whooops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think a video explaining more about what went wrong would be great for beginners like me. And I appreciate what you said about putting them through their paces before u sell them. I’m wanting to try to get into this to and I really enjoy your videos. I’ve been learning so much. Thank you for your content
Love the determination to get this thing fixed bro. I would’ve been pissed after it cut out lol
Knock knock
Who's there?
Rod
Rod who?
Rod knock 🙁
Uncle Rodney! Never good to hear from him!
@@markfinnigan4994 true I thought my feild car had rod knock I don't think it does arfter hearing his car
lolol
Vlad Good idea for a T-shirt
That's some funny shit right there!!
I was gonna say i don't know how you can smile when you put so much hard work into something and it goes to hell in a handbasket but you explained it quite well. You are the better man.
22:31 ^ this is why I like this guy. HONESTY GOES ALONG WAYS
You can actually hear it loose oil pressure near red line when leaving the light , it was like a high pitch wine at time stamp 16:09
Why did the pressure light not come on or does that only monter the oil filter
@@neilmurphy845 when the clearance is passed , you get low oil pressure , with a failure like this high rpm makes the pump put out more oil pressure keeping the sensor happy , when the rpm comes back down the pressure from the pump is not enough
@@ladale21 ow so that's why you have less than a few seconds to pull over
To be fair, the old girl was struggling over 5krpm and didn't get to the red line
@@ssoltys4128 ow ya that's fair painful when people start it up and rev it to 5 or 6
Tough break Randy! Definitely was worth your experience. The oil pump probably went bad which caused the bearings to go.
The engine may not be bad it could just be the oil pump, that gives a knocking sound too
A friend of mine had a Tech 4 that sounded like a rod rattler and would seize when warm. Ended up being the force balancer.
I was going to say the same thing, could be that the oil pump pick up tube could have clogged causing the oil pump to run too dry and burn it out which threw a main bearing.
There's a oil sending unit on the motor by the oil filter that trips the oil pressure
These oil sending units are very well known at going out! I've put 5 in mine. It is located on the backside of the engine towards the passenger side more. For some reason they start to leak and before you know it you are way low on oil. That's why the low pressure light came on when you accelerated hard or rounding a corner and braking. It was probably low enough that it couldn't get picked up by the pump under those conditions of braking, cornering etc. If the bottom right side of the car is soaked you'll know.
Had you stopped revving it up it may have survived. It needed an oil pump. That’s why it dropped at idle. They are crank driven so they go up and down with rpm’s at idle the worn pump was not strong enough to pump oil. Whenever you see a low oil light the last thing you do is romp on it. You are pretty good at troubleshooting man you know this. Come on lol.
BioHazard Shrimp was looking for this comment. I immediately thought it's an oil pump too
Oil pump or pick-up tube seal or the tube could be cracked above the oil level in the pan. Heat from driving could expand the gap and cause low pressure. Pump is definitely more likely though.
Thomas Smith nobody knows not to rev an engine with low oil pressure? Nah most people do know that. Maybe you don’t. Sorry I guess.
Not worth putting oil pump and gaskets etc in a $300 car! Especially when that vehicle in general is near end of life...
I just posted about that before I noticed this comment. The PCM shuts the engine off for a reason usually because something critical has failed.
Somebody's knocking should I let em in🎶 lord it's the oil pump let's rev her to 10 🎶‼🤭
“Then it broke bad” This one was definitely no click bait, 😂 lol 😂
14:00 I agree it is better to go the extra mile and to be honest. The Best kind of customers a return customer👌
thanks for the wiring tips I have an 06 gp with only 15k miles but ill do my wires like you did yours to be safe.....love your vids
Make sure to rev it to 6k rpm also when it has low oil pressure on. Just like Randy. 🤣🤣 Oh that was funny. U feel bad for him but man it was funny. "It has no issuuuu... She just died on me"
Randy, Great effort. Great content .
Better it happen to you than a customer!
Cheers
You sound so happy at 7:13 min. Congrats. That solution at minute 12, thats some good ingenuity.
"I hear you knockin...." oh well, that was fun, a least ypu got home with it
Like a lady in the night right
@@micahhill4786 Tee hee!! ( . Y . )
Seems weird that a 3.8 would blow up like that
Probably wasn't maintained ever
Honest man gotta respect him🙏🏾🙏🏾great project wins and losses!!
I gave you credit Randy you have a conscious and you stand behind what you sell.
Man this GP must have had a rough life. We have had two, one had 191k and the same model and year with 147k.
No major issues.. they have been great cars for us.
Thanks for the heads up about the wire loom! Will look for that on our 04
I just saw the article on Facebook about this problem on the GM 3800 Service Tips page. I've owned a few 3800s myself and never had a problem with the harness. Good to know that is a problem with some of them.
You need to binge watch some South Main Auto. Dude is a genius with this stuff.
22:30 randy is the most Honest car salesman ever id buy a car from him any day of the week
Hi Randy that is a nice car it sounds good now love the videos 👍👍👍
You have a good attitude.and thankyou for the info
Make one more episode with it and do an episode like neutral drop does. Blow it up. Put BBs in the intake. And let it rip.
Lol
Uh, he already blew it up.
It still runs. And there's no rods hanging out the bottom of the motor. If you haven't seen neutral drop Those guys are awesome. I think AAR would get great views and Revenue from a video like that.
Randy the new stuntman lol
@@stuckoutwest5169 what's it got STUNTMANNNNNN!!!!!!
I split a piece of heater hose and put over things like that.
Damn man, you don’t deserve this! Rip grad Prix!
Awesome video thanks for sharing. Where on the internet did you go to find the information about the car? Also where do you buy your tires from? Thumbs up to this video and your channel.
What do you guys think this car will sell for now ..
Answer: same as you paid at copart ; scrap 300 bucks
Mark Dietrich My mazda 6 had rods knocking and never turned back on I sold it to pull a part for 460$ back in April
@@DavidsCarReviews361 what year was yours, well motor size?
ZOE SMITH 2003 and it was a 3.0l
@@DavidsCarReviews361 Around here LKQ gives you $80 for a car.
@@DavidsCarReviews361 u scared me, I just got a 13 with a 2.5 4 cylinder and so far so good
Great content!
Aw man I was rooting for ya
Dang that was right on que. So sad it looked like you were home free. I always enjoy your productions. Hopefully it works out. People need the service you are providing. Decent auto with a good once over. Thanks again for posting these vids.
keep up the good work greetings from greece
She spun a bearing, that's exactly what happened to my Impala in may; it had the 3800 series 2. I heard that noise pulling into my job in the morning knew it was a spun bearing. Later that day, I said a small prayer before I started driving home, barely made it home from a 30 mile drive. I pulled in my driveway, revved it, and seized the s.o.b. I sold the car to the local salvage yard the next day.
Never drive a car with the low oil light on immediately pullover, you have about 30 seconds if the oil pump fails
Also never rev an old car like that up it's like an old man trying to run something's going to give
..... unless you are making money from youtube, disaster sells?
Spot on! Let's just rev it and cross our fingers..great idea
thanks captain obvious.
I would drown my sorrows with a Whataburger BBQ sandwich, sounds like a oil pump flailing
Good job randy😎
Keep the videos coming
Tuesday AM, Hello Randy hope your better today, Keep Kicking bubba, be blessed.
Whenever you use electrical tape in wet areas, you should also use Liquid Tape outside the tape you put on the wiring. I have used Liquid Tape for many years in automotive environments with a zero failure of connections. I installed a two-way radio in a fire truck years ago with the radio connections outside under the truck because the connectors could not be pushed through any holes in the body. I had to cut the cable and put it back together outside the cab. Installed for about 10 years that way. When the truck was sold, I pulled the connection mess apart to see how the wiring fared over the years. It was like new in there. BTW... you could have used the wire loom protective plastic the factory used to protect the wiring from physical damage. You also can use self-fusing rubber tape as a water seal AND a physical protector. First tape the wires separately with electrical tape. Then Self-fusing tape over all of that. Then wrap with electrical tape over the self-fusing tape. Finally the Liquid Tape. That Liquid Tape is awesome stuff!!!
This is a GREAT video. I was happy for you that you had it running so well! I was hoping to see a follow up video showing you cleaning the engine bay etc. with new tires a detailed interior and cosmetics taken care of I would have suggested starting at $3100.00 asking price. Sorry you had the oil pressure issue. Maybe take the pan off , clean the screen, polish the crank, replace the bearings, finding what was floating around that was stopping up the oil strainer, if it a bad oil pump, slap the pan back on and back on the road again? Let us know please.. keep up the good work. Phillip Hall
That's not ghetto Randy that's ROADKILL !!!🤘🏻🤘🏻😎
What's up Randy! Intro was funny 😂😂😂😂 awesome video man 👍🏾 #AARB
Best video ever! Looks like comedy
Had this video been posted one day earlier, it would have saved $250 on a throttle body! Yesterday I replaced the TB with reduced power (P1516, P1518) on a 2004 grandprix. Later I found the wiring diagram, and found both grounds to the TB had no continuity, then today seeing this video totally identified it. Thanks for your videos I really hope this helps someone else later.
Randy,
Don't beat yourself up over this. We've all (anyone who purchases more than 1 car per year from Copart IAA) had a surprise dud on their hands. We all know the feeling. It sucks. Not the end of you, but this one I think I'd take to pull-a-part or LKQ and get some good beer money for it. I had a Nissan Quest bite me in the ass last year. Everything checked out on the photos, AA.io and Carfax -- I get it and its a flood car and a car with a bad head gasket. These things happen - its not the end of the world. Love your channel.
Damn man. Well enjoyed watching the video. I was pulling for the car. Haha
Great channel brother! Sucks about the Pontiac, keep up the great work!
I found this video interesting because MANY MANY MANY GM's have used this same motor and setup. Chevy Impalas, Buicks Park Avenue's, Pontiac G6's, etc....... If I ever run into a vehicle with this same setup.....I'm definitely looking at that wiring harness first.
Thanks for the content and keep up the brilliant work
Edited I think you should pull the sump and see what it looks like and see if there is movement in the rods
Your good man it’s no L the videos from the car got your money back. 💪🏾💰
When you started to take corners, i thought possibly the oil is sloushing around not circulating properly and also thought oil pump/sending unit. I have a 09 impala and family has a 08 both with random reduce engine power messages appearing. Great video regarding the wiring and correction with gm's design flaw. Your options like you said, sending it back to auction, selling it for parts, or find another grand prix and combine parts to make a good car. Good video, sorry for the loss. It happens.
I had a 71 pontiac lemans - hammered it to harrisonville MO up to 115 mph - suprise crap in oil pan gave me same symtoms your grandprix at idle it would over heat in like 2 min. cleared oil pan of white gupe problem was resolved.
Lol this is a re run of my old 03 Monte Carlo SS Highsport 3.8. I replaced the coil packs, plugs, wires and ignition module due to a random multiple misfire, ran awesome but for 3 days then the oil pump failed. Well at least it locked up pulling into work lol. Even coasted into the spot right next to my bay
Damn... the 3800 is usually a bulletproof motor.... except for the one in this Grand Prix.
Mathew Poynter i didn't have problems with mine love thr 3.8 motor 3
Check the oil pick up in the sump it may be blocked . It might not have enough sucking power at low rpm to suck up the oil and that gives you a low oil pressure light at low revs . It just a thought
Wow your one great guy really enjoyed you making this video on the Pontiac Grand Prix GT keep it up always a pleasure to learn more thank you !
Wonder if something is clogging the oil intake in the oil pan. I helped a friend who had a similar issue (Intermittent low oil indicator), and we changed the oil, a bunch of gunk came out (looked kinda like filter fell apart). Put in new oil & filter, and it was fine....
The coil pack ziptied to the harness was a great idea in my opinion. Prevents any further issue with it. Clever
Damn Randy! So sorry. Looked like a big win. Hopefully CZcams revenue plus auction sale covers the cost. Videos were still great. Was very interesting to see how you found and fixed the initial issue. A learning experience for everyone watching! Fingers crossed you at least break even.
Did you solder the wires?
Make sure you put split tubing on the wire loom and cable tie it to something so it doesn't rub again. The coil wire boot will work.
Win or lose, I love your content Randy!
Randy, does the Pontiac have knock sensors? Im in the UK and our cars have knock sensors and believe me ive seen a few go to the scrap yard when it was just the sensor was bad
A harmonic balencer falling appart and also make that knocking noice. Common on older gms with 3800.. take serp. Belt run motor.. no knock put belt on knock comes back.. easy test...just a thought...
I bought the same car new and still have it. I haven't had any engine problems other than coolant leak at the belt tensioner where there is a passage where the coolant passes through the tensioner. And a brake line blew out on me going down the road. I would think an oil pump failure would cause over heating. Anyway it's a good parts car.
Man...good luck with that brother! 🤞🏻
thanks Randy good video. You are right about putting the cars though there paces if they cant handle Randy lead foot then there no good.
Randy you are my dude and im so sorry this happened bit it is so entertaining. No disrespect brother.
I bet when you fix these cars you amaze yourself, Keep it up
Oil pressure. Pump failed and you were riding it hard. Simply get a low milage motor. It's an easy swap. It is worth rescuing since everything else looks good. You can make some bucks still.
Yup, you can get 3800's for a song these days. My local yard sells them all day long for $250 with 30 day warranty.
The Devil is an engineer at GM.
Bob Cunningham damn he seems to still be working there remember what happen to a brand new corvette 🤣🤣🤣
those are great engines not the engineers fault it was designed in the 50s
I don't know if that's a fair statement. I think GM has some amazing engineers. When they want to, they can do amazing things- look at the EV1, Volt, Corvette* and SSR. The problem with GM is that some things they do really well and put a lot of money and effort into only to cost cut in other areas, on the same car even and then you end up with some inferior/cheaply produced products that fail prematurely*.
Granted, this Grand Prix has some miles on her so even though it sucks to have a catastrophic engine failure, I think she's been an okay car. She was probably nearing the end of her useful life, anyway.
@darren dorion what about the gt350/500 that blew up with 5 miles on the clock, point is, shit breaks sometimes, and its noones loss, stop looking to blame a car manufacturer because they arent your selected brand, kindly, the car enthusiast community.
People defending GM lol. Don't get me wrong I loved my GM cars or I wouldn't have bought any... My god but for the terrible electronics and that miserable dexcool. They're the cars I love to hate
I feel sorry for you! That's tough luck. But you are right that it is very entertaining!
I love this vid. I have a 2004 Monte Carlo SS that won't start. gonna have to check the wiring and connectors! There are no codes though.... I would buy a car from you.
That's a pretty typical oil pump failure on those 3.8's. I've torn down a few that went. The oil pump is on the timing cover there two gears in it that strip out. I had another customer that was accelerating onto the interstate and got a low oil pressure and shut it off immediately and had it towed an we were able to replace the pump and gears and it lived. Typically, they will work not work go all wonky for a few minutes, then they start spinning main bearings till one falls out and then no pressure to anything and it starts dropping rod bearings. Nice to catch it on video. FYI those 3.8's are the easiest engines in the world to swap. I have done enough of them that I can swap them in about 4 hours. There is a plethora of good used junk yard ones.
Good video
This video is a win Randy. Definitely a learning experience for you and all of us. Do you think perhaps the oil pickup may be clogged?
Randy:We got no issues with
the Pontiac.
The Pontiac:Nope!
Good job
Hi Randy since we cant find some spare parts in my country (Turkey) or we have to wait so long for orders we fix some issues on the dash board even exterior parts wit something called SUNFİX plastic bond. so you can fix your dash maybe with this plastic bond. have fun. take care.
23:33 randy was on his TK shit
Lost the engine on my 1997 Grand Prix GT similar. It lost pressure for some reason and blew oil up around the filter. I thought maybe I left the old seal on but no it was something else or a defective filter.
Also there is a recall on the key being able to jiggle with weight on it back ACC on the key tumbler to and cause the car to turn off.
Randy: she has no issues
Pontiac: I’m about to end this mans whole career
check all the vacuum lines running from the throttlebody. mines done this. check fuel pressure regulators on the fuel rails, and those vaccum lines. idk. ive had a idle air control solenoid go bad that sort of had the same issue.
Dang randy that's a bummer. I know it sounds like rod knock and probably is, however, I had a gm once that the issue was it sucked a bunch of crap into the oil pick up and was starving the motor for oil. Perhaps when you romped on it you sucked up some crud. If it's an easy oil pan removal maybe check that first?
I worked at a Buick Pontiac dealer 20 years ago and would occasionally see a problem like this. The problem would develop after someone did the intake gaskets and allowed old gasket to fall into the valley. After a while all the gasket material would clog up the screen on the oil pickup and starve the engine of oil. It's really a bummer a lot of engines got ruined by allowing this to happen.
I had a Blk Grand Prix it was my 2nd car I was so happy first I rebuilt the trans 2 weeks later motor went Nice Cars under a 100k miles def not over
Good content randy,you tried everything but I think the grim reaper has that cars number !
It is an fine car! Go for it😂
Beena while since ive watched tbh back now lol
Randy! If it wasn’t for your bad luck you would have no luck at all.. Great content fella, keep it up!👍
Randy I would find a field to park non runners in and sell the parts off them on Ebay, Craigslist, or FB Marketplace. It wouldn't take long at all to recoup the money you have into it. Maybe even make some extra! Just a thought. I bet Jessica would be great at cataloging and shipping as well as advertising.
Oh man i hope the engine dont die, you can do it randy!
Great philosophy
Not many would do that.
👍👍👍👍👍
Did you lose oil? I have that same car. check oil press sensor for oil in the plug. As for dying on ya replace cps if its not blown up.
BLOWN UP Sir!!!!!!!
I like how you handle a challenge
Great 👍👍 job but I think the fuel pump is bad and I'm not sure
Open and honest as always Randy. So you took a punt (as we say here) and it nearly paid off. You found some serious wiring issues and fixed the car. You DID fix that car. But it had something else you couldn't know about. But I would take the bonnet (hood) struts back off mate ...
I would reckon as a parts car has to be worth what you paid but I understand only certain 'dealers' can do this in the USA? Take it to a scrap yard rather than the hassle of Copart Just IMHO.
Onward and upward