I bike commute to work on some insanely fast declines and some fast stretches. Having a full face helmet is something I considered doing, especially when I accidentally side swiped a pole with my right side of the bar and flew off face first. A top portion of the helmet is golden but honestly, my cheeks and cheek bones deserve the same protection. I’m getting a full face helmet soon! 👍🏻
Having ridden and raced enduro motorcycles for most of my life, I’d never consider riding one without a high end full face helmet. I’ve also been into MTB since 1990. We realized pretty quickly even back then that the capabilities of mtb really called for helmets, something we never wore during our younger bmx years. Fast forward to today, mountain bikes are just as capable as dirt bikes and trails have become super gnarly and way more dangerous if you do make a slight mistake. I just picked up a Rail 9.8 as well and I decided to order a full face because I can already see how much more aggressively I can ride it. I think all it takes is for some local fast guys to convert to full face and the rest will follow. I think a lot of people want to wear them but don’t want to be called out for thinking they’re so fast they need one.
I agree. I don't know what it is about cyclists in general making fun of protection equipment. That does seem to get better over time. I used to get made fun of all the time from people at local trails for wearing knee pads. Now they are everywhere. It's almost like you "weren't tough enough" or were a "poser" for protecting your body. It was very strange. I think it is from a lot of riders who started out on the road biking side of things. They weren't laughing anymore when they couldn't keep up on the downhills though...
Thanks for the video! I have been away from MTB doing other fitness stuff for a while. My twin15 year old grandson's got some bikes and are hooked. We all need some new gear. My face isn't worth saving, but it will help keep bugs out of my mouth. Thanks again!
Great video man ! Kudos to you ! You’ve convinced me to try out the smith mainline. I figured I’d give it a chance since I plan on hitting windrock in the next couple weeks.
I wear a full face on every ride after I broke my skull. I work in a level 1 trauma center ER and we see brain bleeds all the time on people of all ages, you can fix bones but not brains.
I’m loving my Smith mainline. I hated the cumbersome D-rings at first, but now wouldn’t have anything less. Oddly, I don’t wear a helmet on asphalt or gravel, but always do on MTB trails and at the park/pump track.
All about full face. Came from BMX where not where a helmet (90s) at a park was a really, really good idea. Fast forward to me getting older and MTBing, and I see a lot more danger in downhills at local trails. Myself, being a terrible MTBer, has still already lost the front and rolled into trees. With all the stumps, roots, trees and branches, a light weight helmet with my riding glasses and kneepads on that are light weight is ideal. Hitting any of that stuff at 15+ mph in the woods on non-manicured lines... no thanks. Nice vid, and thanks. I will check those out. Also, will look through your past vids for the computers on your bike. Always on the lookout for something to replace my 10 year old Garmin (especially if it is eMTB designed). Thanks!
I am getting that way as well. The penalty for not wearing one is not attractive these days! Lately I have been using the Elemnt computers and really like them. amzn.to/3iHcj1g
I don't trial ride or do anything like I imagine most of the guys watching this video do, I just cycle around locally. The other day I did something dumb and went over the handle bars, my face took the full impact and now I have what looks like road rash on one side of my face with some pretty decent cuts on my eyebrow and forehead. I'm now looking for a full face helmet and wondering why most people don't just wear them everywhere?
Luckily for me, I haven't had an accident, where full-face could helped, but I've had accidents which could have been way worse (like yours) if I was wearing a half-shell. I've had one major head injury resulting in a concussion and 30 minutes outside the trail without the ability to stand up on my feet. The rotational MIPS system on the half-shell Giro trail helmet probably saved me from a bigger damage. I'm now always riding with a full face helmet. I feel unsafe without it.
Ivan...thanks for sharing your feedback. I am find that a lot of people have similar stories. As time goes on...I think we'll see more FF helmets out on the trail because of that.
I went down pretty bad on boyscout trail in pacifica I didn't hit my head but it felt like i did lol i was dazed for like 5 seconds and got a headache. I want to go again but most definitely will take a full face helmet lol
Hi I recently start mountain biking and I’m loving it I watch your videos and their dope . Thanks for the advices and I pass on all the info on my friends . I have a question if you don’t mind I wear prescription glasses I can’t wear contacts and I’m trying to find the best helmet and googles so I struggle less . I wore my regular half shelf helmet but my glasses kept falling down during the downhill and I took them off and I fell lol so it wasn’t fun . If you have any advice I will appreciate it a lot. Again thanks for your tips and loving your channel
I wear contacts as well. You either have to experiment with different glasses to see which ones work the best with your helmet that don’t slide. I have always had great experiences with the Oakley’s. The perfect situation is to wear goggles. There are half shell helmets that support those now and that is really the perfect solution.
Good video thanks for the story, I am currently sourcing a full face that is good for very hot weather as well. I took a similar hit to the face and I am not going thru that again!
I am definitely considering getting a ventilated full face. I had to get a dental implant/crown last year (not from biking), and I definitely don’t want to have to go through that again. Plus, I have a public-facing job, so even if it’s just cosmetic damage to my ugly mug, I’d rather try to prevent it.
@@Bike198 Does the sound of the MIPS rubbing in the Mainline bother you? I'm thinking about getting one but have. seen some people online raging about that.
Any of the ones with MIPS are going to have the same issue. I don't notice it on downhills but if you shake your head while climbing it is noticeable. Nature of the extra protection I guess. You don't get that on half shells because you don't have the ear coverage or leverage of the chin weight.
Great vid - very professional; again! Anybody reading this should consider pressing that subscribe button. Anyway, full face. My boy is 25 now and has been riding MTB with me since he was 8. At 10 he was starting drops and speeding up and I made a decision to ride full face with him. Pretty soon, he wanted his ‘cos Dad always wore his and fortunately he has a big head (🙄), so we found one fitting a 10 year old, even back then. He and I became completely confident in company wearing them. We’re in the UK and we have NEVER had any negative comments, only positive ones, sometimes guilty positive ones. He has had to discard one helmet and I have discarded two for significant damage to the helmet (not our heads 😌) during crashes - I need say no more about the importance of helmets nor our MTB ability 😂🤣🙄.l So, now we both use the newer style full face enduro helmets mentioned in this vid. Ours have a removable chin-piece. We use the chin-piece whenever there are obstacles we might hit (tree trunks, boulders etc), irrespective of the grade of track. I notice the next vid YT is recommending as I write this is your Bike198 "Teach Kids Mountain Biking". Very apt 😀
Thanks! I really appreciate the feedback! I am thinking about getting my 8 year old one as well if he keeps progressing like he is. Especially with kids...hard hits to the head can become really serious. Better safe than sorry for sure.
When i was 12 I had a massive crash just riding tomy mates one time and i was wearing a half shell when my whole front wheel came off. I has to hospital as I scraped half the skin off my face, elbows and all the skin off my knuckles plus a fractured rib and elbow, so now when I’m riding on the trails i always make sure to where a full face and where a helmet on commutes
so...out of the two mentioned here...which one would you wear as your go to helmet then? I'm looking at the Smith...but the Parachute MCR seems a nice option too 🤔
@@Bike198 Couldn't find one for a reasonable price in my size in the UK unfortunately :-( Went for the TLD Stage in the end...got it for £200. Light blue camo...not the exact colour scheme I wanted still cool though.
Major crash on a BMX bike resulting in a bleed on the brain and multiply facial fractures is exactly why I'm here watching this video looking for a lightweight, vented helmet to wear on the mountain bike!
I'm with man, I'm on blood thinners for life so I ride flatland BMX with knee pads and shin guards, no helmet and BMX park with pads and full face helmet...MTB is new to me but I'll definitely go for a full face and limb protection....nothing to be ashamed of, I'm 50, smart asses can lick my hairy balls! And I even subscribed to your channel!
"If you're not wearing a helmet, you have nothing to protect" lol I love that
True though right?! 🤣
@@Bike198 So true. I'm going to say that if anyone ever gives me crap for wearing a brain bucket.
I bike commute to work on some insanely fast declines and some fast stretches. Having a full face helmet is something I considered doing, especially when I accidentally side swiped a pole with my right side of the bar and flew off face first. A top portion of the helmet is golden but honestly, my cheeks and cheek bones deserve the same protection. I’m getting a full face helmet soon! 👍🏻
Having ridden and raced enduro motorcycles for most of my life, I’d never consider riding one without a high end full face helmet.
I’ve also been into MTB since 1990. We realized pretty quickly even back then that the capabilities of mtb really called for helmets, something we never wore during our younger bmx years.
Fast forward to today, mountain bikes are just as capable as dirt bikes and trails have become super gnarly and way more dangerous if you do make a slight mistake.
I just picked up a Rail 9.8 as well and I decided to order a full face because I can already see how much more aggressively I can ride it.
I think all it takes is for some local fast guys to convert to full face and the rest will follow. I think a lot of people want to wear them but don’t want to be called out for thinking they’re so fast they need one.
I agree. I don't know what it is about cyclists in general making fun of protection equipment. That does seem to get better over time. I used to get made fun of all the time from people at local trails for wearing knee pads. Now they are everywhere. It's almost like you "weren't tough enough" or were a "poser" for protecting your body. It was very strange. I think it is from a lot of riders who started out on the road biking side of things. They weren't laughing anymore when they couldn't keep up on the downhills though...
Thanks for the video! I have been away from MTB doing other fitness stuff for a while. My twin15 year old grandson's got some bikes and are hooked. We all need some new gear. My face isn't worth saving, but it will help keep bugs out of my mouth. Thanks again!
Anytime!! They are great for that for sure!
Great video man ! Kudos to you ! You’ve convinced me to try out the smith mainline. I figured I’d give it a chance since I plan on hitting windrock in the next couple weeks.
Super high production value, good story, well presented, nice background music but not too loud.
Love your style, subscribed!
Thanks Luuk!! There are mover videos coming over the next week.
Gast jou naam is bijna dezelfde als die van mij wat is je achternaam?
Recently moved to North Carolina and just ordered my Smith Mainline, can’t wait to try it out
Check back in after you do and let me know what you think!
I wear a full face on every ride after I broke my skull. I work in a level 1 trauma center ER and we see brain bleeds all the time on people of all ages, you can fix bones but not brains.
No truer words spoken. Same for eyes. Glad to hear you are recovered and can ride again.
I’m loving my Smith mainline. I hated the cumbersome D-rings at first, but now wouldn’t have anything less. Oddly, I don’t wear a helmet on asphalt or gravel, but always do on MTB trails and at the park/pump track.
I am wearing mine more often on all MTB rides...especially in cooler weather. No reason not to have extra protection.
I love your succinct, informative, and earnest presentation. And will probably get the Smith Mainline
It’s opening day and I’m headed to 2 nights at the park with my brand new smith mainline
Recently bought the ixs trigger ff, really light and really comfortable - vast improvement from my last ff a few years back
That looks like a great helmet as well Andy. It is awesome to have so many good options now.
All about full face. Came from BMX where not where a helmet (90s) at a park was a really, really good idea. Fast forward to me getting older and MTBing, and I see a lot more danger in downhills at local trails. Myself, being a terrible MTBer, has still already lost the front and rolled into trees.
With all the stumps, roots, trees and branches, a light weight helmet with my riding glasses and kneepads on that are light weight is ideal. Hitting any of that stuff at 15+ mph in the woods on non-manicured lines... no thanks.
Nice vid, and thanks. I will check those out.
Also, will look through your past vids for the computers on your bike. Always on the lookout for something to replace my 10 year old Garmin (especially if it is eMTB designed).
Thanks!
I am getting that way as well. The penalty for not wearing one is not attractive these days! Lately I have been using the Elemnt computers and really like them. amzn.to/3iHcj1g
I have the same Met full face. Was looking at buying something more trail but after watching this. I think I may just stick with the full face
I don't trial ride or do anything like I imagine most of the guys watching this video do, I just cycle around locally. The other day I did something dumb and went over the handle bars, my face took the full impact and now I have what looks like road rash on one side of my face with some pretty decent cuts on my eyebrow and forehead. I'm now looking for a full face helmet and wondering why most people don't just wear them everywhere?
Luckily for me, I haven't had an accident, where full-face could helped, but I've had accidents which could have been way worse (like yours) if I was wearing a half-shell. I've had one major head injury resulting in a concussion and 30 minutes outside the trail without the ability to stand up on my feet. The rotational MIPS system on the half-shell Giro trail helmet probably saved me from a bigger damage.
I'm now always riding with a full face helmet. I feel unsafe without it.
Ivan...thanks for sharing your feedback. I am find that a lot of people have similar stories. As time goes on...I think we'll see more FF helmets out on the trail because of that.
I went down pretty bad on boyscout trail in pacifica I didn't hit my head but it felt like i did lol i was dazed for like 5 seconds and got a headache. I want to go again but most definitely will take a full face helmet lol
Hi I recently start mountain biking and I’m loving it I watch your videos and their dope . Thanks for the advices and I pass on all the info on my friends . I have a question if you don’t mind I wear prescription glasses I can’t wear contacts and I’m trying to find the best helmet and googles so I struggle less . I wore my regular half shelf helmet but my glasses kept falling down during the downhill and I took them off and I fell lol so it wasn’t fun . If you have any advice I will appreciate it a lot. Again thanks for your tips and loving your channel
I wear contacts as well. You either have to experiment with different glasses to see which ones work the best with your helmet that don’t slide. I have always had great experiences with the Oakley’s. The perfect situation is to wear goggles. There are half shell helmets that support those now and that is really the perfect solution.
Good video thanks for the story, I am currently sourcing a full face that is good for very hot weather as well. I took a similar hit to the face and I am not going thru that again!
Thanks! The Smith and TLD have great ventilation.
I am definitely considering getting a ventilated full face. I had to get a dental implant/crown last year (not from biking), and I definitely don’t want to have to go through that again. Plus, I have a public-facing job, so even if it’s just cosmetic damage to my ugly mug, I’d rather try to prevent it.
Luckily I was wearing one today because I ended up wrecking on a DH and drug my face against the ground. The helmet worked!
@@Bike198 wow! Glad you’re okay
I always ride with a full-face helmet, I am in the market for new helmet, I am not sure on which yet.
I also wear goggles with nose guard.
Good video, thanks. Based on my riding behaviour I'm looking at a full face lid with good pedalability.
The Smith and TLD are great options if you need a lot of venting. We posted our Smith Mainline full review last week.
What are the two devices that we can see on your handlebar and Top Tube?
Thanks really need a new helmet and am still thinking on which one
I really like this Smith so far. The Troy Lee Stage looks nice too.
@@Bike198 Does the sound of the MIPS rubbing in the Mainline bother you? I'm thinking about getting one but have. seen some people online raging about that.
Any of the ones with MIPS are going to have the same issue. I don't notice it on downhills but if you shake your head while climbing it is noticeable. Nature of the extra protection I guess. You don't get that on half shells because you don't have the ear coverage or leverage of the chin weight.
I believe many of them are hard inside, i just bought 2 packs universal inner-pads, so maybe...
Perfect🙂👍
im getting a full face helmet !! thx . subbed !!
Great vid - very professional; again! Anybody reading this should consider pressing that subscribe button. Anyway, full face. My boy is 25 now and has been riding MTB with me since he was 8. At 10 he was starting drops and speeding up and I made a decision to ride full face with him. Pretty soon, he wanted his ‘cos Dad always wore his and fortunately he has a big head (🙄), so we found one fitting a 10 year old, even back then. He and I became completely confident in company wearing them. We’re in the UK and we have NEVER had any negative comments, only positive ones, sometimes guilty positive ones.
He has had to discard one helmet and I have discarded two for significant damage to the helmet (not our heads 😌) during crashes - I need say no more about the importance of helmets nor our MTB ability 😂🤣🙄.l
So, now we both use the newer style full face enduro helmets mentioned in this vid. Ours have a removable chin-piece. We use the chin-piece whenever there are obstacles we might hit (tree trunks, boulders etc), irrespective of the grade of track.
I notice the next vid YT is recommending as I write this is your Bike198 "Teach Kids Mountain Biking".
Very apt 😀
Thanks! I really appreciate the feedback! I am thinking about getting my 8 year old one as well if he keeps progressing like he is. Especially with kids...hard hits to the head can become really serious. Better safe than sorry for sure.
I just received the Troy lee stage and the chin bar is really close to my mouth.
I haven’t used a Stage before but it is a popular one. Too close to use comfortably?
When i was 12 I had a massive crash just riding tomy mates one time and i was wearing a half shell when my whole front wheel came off. I has to hospital as I scraped half the skin off my face, elbows and all the skin off my knuckles plus a fractured rib and elbow, so now when I’m riding on the trails i always make sure to where a full face and where a helmet on commutes
Thanks for sharing your experience. Mine was really similar and once you go through something like that...you really want to protect your face!
@@Bike198 since that incident I have never not worn a helmet doesn’t matter what speed or where i am
so...out of the two mentioned here...which one would you wear as your go to helmet then?
I'm looking at the Smith...but the Parachute MCR seems a nice option too 🤔
Out of these two? The Smith. It is a great all around helmet for this type of riding.
@@Bike198 Couldn't find one for a reasonable price in my size in the UK unfortunately :-(
Went for the TLD Stage in the end...got it for £200.
Light blue camo...not the exact colour scheme I wanted still cool though.
yeah! 🙃
Major crash on a BMX bike resulting in a bleed on the brain and multiply facial fractures is exactly why I'm here watching this video looking for a lightweight, vented helmet to wear on the mountain bike!
Is the smith mainline durable enough for DH bike parks?
Yes. It is fully certified.
Hey, do you know where i can get visor for smith mainline? Thanks :D
You would probably have to contact them directly for that.
I'm with man, I'm on blood thinners for life so I ride flatland BMX with knee pads and shin guards, no helmet and BMX park with pads and full face helmet...MTB is new to me but I'll definitely go for a full face and limb protection....nothing to be ashamed of, I'm 50, smart asses can lick my hairy balls! And I even subscribed to your channel!
Full Face all the wayyyyyyy
The use of enduro helmets will grow for sure together with ridiculous prices of them helmets