Its not the British Anthem . Its the Anthem of the Union between Great Britain & Norn Ireland ffs ! No wonder its messed up if people dont know the difference between the U.K & Great Britain . Slan leat .
Great to see a decent conversation on the issue without any controversy or drama! Everyone in Ireland or Northern Ireland would agree its a sensitive topic even today! It divides even a family front room watching any Ireland match!
Ireland’s call is not Ireland’s anthem. Amhrain na bhfiann is the Republic of Ireland’s anthem. Ireland’s call is a more inclusive song taking into account players from the North of Ireland. Ireland’s call is what is played home and away. Amhrain na bhfiann Ireland’s actual anthem only gets played at home matches. Whole thing is nuts.
Whats even crazier is if the Irish national team play a home game in Ravenhill, or anywhere in the north god save the queen would be played before Irelands call.
@@charlieblake2496 Thats not the case. Irelands call only is played at Irish Rugby, Hockey and cricket matches outside the republic of Ireland, including in Northern Ireland. God Save the Queen will never be an Irish sporting anthem no matter the location.
Well done. I haven't had or seen a conversation like this since 19 mumble mumble when I had a night out with the cousins of my Brit mate in Belfast. My Brit mate was - is of Huguenot extraction whose father was a bit of a sporting hero in the occupied north east. I'm Australian of Irish Catholic extraction. What a great night, talking to the dreaded Prods, I'd never heard their side. Good video
Very hard topic for Darren Cave to discuss and hats off trying give his view, respect for that. But he is wrong in terms of Amhrain na bhfiann being a south of the border national anthem, Amhrain na bhfiann belongs to all Irish citizens north and south of the border that hold an Irish passport. I believe he should of taken the view, if your from a Unionist background in the North of the border, Amhrain na bhfiann is not your national anthem if you choose to be, which should be respected. Half of the people in North of border would come from a Nationalist/Republican background and align themselves with the Amhrain na bhfiann and the other half of people from the North of the border would be from a Unionist background most likely not aligning with Amhrain na bhfiann, saying this is a very general view and isn't always the case for both communities.
Full credit to Darren I'm from the ROI with NI relatives rugby and sport has the power to bring everyone together regardless of supposed divisions. The 1995 WC is another example.
On the whole anthem thing I’m English and I hate god save the queen and I believe it should be Jerusalem, not that I hate the royals or anything it’s just not what is England, it’s Britain yeah for sure but not English
Technically her official title is actually Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of her other realms and territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith
And it's boring as f*** lol, I'm the same, I've no problem with the royals, but before a game I wanna be belting out something a bit more exciting and inspiring haha (Jerusalem is a good call)
Why do people call themselves British when Britain isnt a country!?? In football and Rugby there is no British team, its Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales. Britain is a landmass containing three countries. Neither Ireland or the North are in Britain. The concept of nationality is based on individual countries and each nation has a capital. Britain does not have a capital. Google Great Britain and the information states that GB is a landmass not a nation..
Singing 'God Save the Queen' before all Northern Ireland football matches is more bonkers than Rugby with Ireland's Call tbh. Northern Ireland is representing Northern Ireland not the UK, and it's already England's anthem to boot. No wonder Catholics don't want to play for the north.
It's Northern Ireland's only official anthem, and Northern Ireland's only official flag is that of the United Kingdom, while eg Scotland has it's own anthem and flag. I think it would be nice to have our de-facto anthem, Londonderry Air officialised though.
BrandonjSlippingAway "Singing 'God Save the Queen' before all Northern Ireland football matches is more bonkers than Rugby with Ireland's Call tbh" How is it bonkers? God Save The Queen is our national anthem! "No wonder Catholics don't want to play for the north" No wonder Protestants and Unionists want NOTHING to do with ROI when you can't even call our country correctly
“ people from south the border “ there is soon to be a nationalist majority in the north and many of us northerners resent the fact they sing that shoulder to shoulder crap.
@@jackmurray3630 "many of us in the illegally occupied 6 counties hate Ireland’s call and don’t see it as our anthem" Please explain how NORTHERN IRELAND is "illegally occupied" you idiot! Agreed "Ireland's call" is NOT our national anthem, our anthem is GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
Nice to see the Northern Irish football association are so appeasing for Irish Catholics playing for them as the Irish Rugy team are for Northern Protestants eh? Ramming god save the queen down their throat. Just shows ye eh
Apparently my brave warriors and very splendid patriots for freedom shed their blood. But then, like everywhere else, estate agents sold it to the highest bidder.
I support all the people of Ireland we are always one people, borders and passports are only on paper. England flows full of Irish blood too, we are all cousins. Its a pity God save the Queen is sung by the English as their anthem, this is the reason I would not want to be part of the UK, who wants to be a second class citizen.
david rose "Its a pity God save the Queen is sung by the English as their anthem" And why is it a pity? "who wants to be a second class citizen." What are you on about?
@@vipiccb6896 Its a republican ideal . Which doesn't place any person at the top of the tree simply because they happened to be born to a certain family
@@davidroseitg oh dear, full of BS! Singing "God Save The Queen" does NOT make us second class citizen! By you attacking our anthem, it's clear to see your anti-British colours
Im from northern ireland and dont think its weird to be affiliated with both ireland and UK. I dont identify as english in the slightest and would say northern irish culture shares many more similarities with its southern cousins than england. Scotland and wales never get asked about being british and scottish/welsh. No different really for us folks... i have both passports and am proud to be a citizen of both countries. Rugby is definitely a special sport in its ability to unite a war torn island though!
M2CW... As an Irish man and a rugby fan when you have players/supporters from one island that have affinities to 2 nations you have to have respect both sides of the coin, playing Amhrán na bhFiann and Ireland's Call is a way of achieving that. The only issue that I have is not playing Amhrán na bhFiann at away games, when you see La Marseillaise / Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau / Flower of Scotland and God Save the Queen getting bellowed out by the fans and players at games for me it gives them a leg up on us (Irish that is) as the emotion and pride that they have singing their national anthem or nations song is something that Iirish fans singing Irelands Call simply cant aspire to the same levels of emotion, BUT I totally see why this is the choice. I'd keep the principle but have a better song...
VIPICCB6 whilst I can see and sympathize with ulster players and fans I have to ask you one simple question it’s Ireland that you are playing for not England and as such the Irish anthem should be played as it’s Ireland that is been represented on the park can you see that?
VIPICCB6 no offense what so ever as this is a real difficult one and one that I’ve felt both sides of the coin I’ve played in the north of Ireland where as a visiting team we were not allowed play Amhrán na bhFiann but had to stand and respect god save the queen that was very hard but we sung our anthem to ourselves whilst god save the queen was finished we were berated by the crowds it was not good but I suppose if the foot was on the others shoe and ulster players had to stand for Amhrán na bhFiann and not have their anthem played then that would be wrong it’s so typical of this island and the expression an Irish solution to an Irish problem is so apt
As in Irish man I love the concept behind Irelands call I'm a huge supporter of it in principle. But it's just such a god awful, bland anthem I think we could do much better.
Our anthem is good enough. Its a 32 county anthem and if they dont like it why dont they go play for England since they consider themselves British. Irelands call is embarrassing
@@toomuch9762 while I do like belting out amhrann na bfhiann I can totally see why an ulster unionist wouldn't feel comfortable with it. Its inherently militaristic and centres around one part of our history (which should never be forgotten) but at the same time being Irish to me is much much more than just fighting against the brits
We'll sing a song, a soldier's song With cheering, rousing chorus As round our blazing fires we throng The starry heavens o'er us Impatient for the coming fight And as we wait the morning's light Here in the silence of the night We'll chant a soldier's song In valley green, or towering crag Our fathers fought before us And conquered 'neath the same old flag That's proudly floating o'er us We're children of a fighting race That never yet has known disgrace And as we march, the foe to face We'll chant a soldier's song Sons of the Gael! Men of the Pale! The long-watched day is breaking The serried ranks of Innisfail Shall set the tyrant quaking Our camp fires now are burning low See in the east a silv'ry glow Out yonder waits the Saxon foe So chant a soldier's song I'm a proud Southern Irishman and will not sing any other song, if ye don't like it that's your problem.
@VIPICCB6 calling me Inbred when you're British lol settle down bud. Ulster is not British as A. NI is not ulster and B ulster existed long before the uk did. Also You're not in Britain. NI may soon be dissolved into the republic time will tell.
@@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 "Only to sectarian planter huns like you" So you say sectarian yet YOU call me a "hun"? Not the brightest are you? " as a proud real ulsterman I salute this song." You are NOT an ulsterman
Factually it all goes back to British imperialism and the separation of the island of Ireland. Scots were put into Northern Ireland during plantation and two countries were created.
It wasn't a country then. There was no nation of ireland at that time. It was a bunch of small independent territories. The separation came after our war of independence. We then made a treaty and agreed to leave the 6 counties under British rule. People didn't like this and then we had the civil war but the pro treaty side won.
I for one love Ireland’s Call, it may not be as beautiful as the Welsh or Scottish but it’s simple and effective, everyone knows it and it unites north and south
@VIPICCB6 You can talk all the shit you want but you have no valid argument or come back. NI belongs to the republic and you will go back to your inbred land swift haste. ROI is Ireland get use to it moron.
Ireland’s call is a decent song but it’s not our anthem. I like having the boys up north not because they’re good at rugby but because it unifies us. I just think the sport of rugby should be enough without having to pander to them with a made up anthem. I don’t expect them to sing our anthem I just find it frustrating that when we play abroad we can’t even sing our actual anthem. It’s also annoying that we can’t even be represented by our actual flag. As I said I love having the boys up north play with us but in the boxing none of these changes apply so why rugby?
Liam Williams the IRFU is an all island body and has the responsibility to be inclusive hence Ireland’s call. Amhrán na bhFiann should be scrapped anyway as it’s out of date.
@@liamwilliams6651 the actual anthem of the irish republic (not the actual anthem of the island of irlenad) is a tad... sectarian and steeped in blood sacrifice... mind you a lot of nations have this baggage, it's just more that it's a tad shite
I’m sorry. Don’t tell him it’s called “London Derry” when the whole point of the two names is because you can have a view on it. Ireland is catholic, NI is Protestant unless your also catholic then your Irish and it’s called Derry. Absolute joke
@@OperationMindPhuk "Derry first and still Derry" Yet it is simply and factually called LONDONDERRY "not all the capital letters in the world will make it any different ya english reject" You call me an English reject? Funny, considering you're "Irish" and not even living in "Ireland" hahahaha
If you play for the National irish team you are irish. If you were born on the island of Ireland you are irish. If you think you’re British go ahead and play with the English. If you do not think you’re Irish and you don’t sing the National anthem it’s not your team.
"If you play for the National irish team you are irish" Nope "If you were born on the island of Ireland you are irish" Nope, we are born in NORTHERN IRELAND which makes us British "If you think you’re British go ahead and play with the English" Proving you have NO IDEA what you are talking about
For me personally i cannot fully warm to the Ireland rugby team because of Ireland's call. Its not and never was the anthem of Ireland. Identity maybe nuanced in Northern Ireland but it is not in the Irish Republic and never was but yet our anthem is being cast aside for the sake of political correctness. We are a very proud small nation and we could be on the verge of winning something major in this Rugby WC. But for me if this does happen (and that's a big if) the whole occasion will be sullied by the playing of Ireland's call before the game. Can anyone think of any scenario when a country potentially on the cusp of sporting greatness, has their anthem denied to them because of political posturing? I just wish we had a republic of Ireland rugby team, then i could fully embrace the team. If this team win then great, but it will be no sporting life-changing moment for me. Is Éireannach mé🇮🇪☘️
It's more of "Irish" meaning from the island of Ireland rather than the Irish republic. Like "British" in the British Lions meant from the geographical British Isles.
@@stevenmcalister826 Only as a PC gesture, before 2001 it was just the British Lions as everyone knew that British in that context meant British Isles.
@@vipiccb6896 Your head must be firmly buried in your ass or still living in the 78s or 80s the republic has overtaken the north on nearly every metric you care to mention from annual household spending to longevity , to national GNP per Capita .. Your not seriously saying northern Ireland doesn't have a health care , housing , education crisis itself worse than the republic .. You should be thanking the republic that you can still get single market access to the EU as it would be far worse up there otherwise 😂
@VIPICCB6 The term British isles is not accepted. People born in NI are born on the landmass of Ireland, they're Irish no matter their deformed inbred British ancestry or their glorious celtic ancestry.
@VIPICCB6 No you're not a ulsterman, ulsterman is a native Irish of ulster you're a dirty planter hun with the name Wilson. Fuck off back to Britain and take your fleg with you.
Any sectarian comments or those clearly attempting to cause controversy will be deleted- if you wanna do that go elsewhere
Can you delete comments or can only CZcams do that?
@Straight white irish catholic I mean individual comments, I Know they can wipe or lock comments but I was just wondering
They seem to manage to play nice together.
Its not the British Anthem .
Its the Anthem of the Union between
Great Britain & Norn Ireland ffs !
No wonder its messed up if people dont know the difference between the U.K & Great Britain .
Slan leat .
@@guilty_mulburry5903 Any channel can delete comments.
Ireland’s call is not the national anthem
Its not you're right.. but its inclusive, i see no harm in it
@@domhnallkelly5084 it’s the opposite of inclusive
Guinness from a can just isn’t the same...
Thomas Lynch agreed
At least pour it into a glass! Straight from the can no thanks.
Surger Guinness will change that
Great to see a decent conversation on the issue without any controversy or drama! Everyone in Ireland or Northern Ireland would agree its a sensitive topic even today! It divides even a family front room watching any Ireland match!
One of the best moments in my life was watching Ulster win the European Cup in Dublin in 1999 an example of rugby bringing people together
Ireland’s call is not Ireland’s anthem. Amhrain na bhfiann is the Republic of Ireland’s anthem. Ireland’s call is a more inclusive song taking into account players from the North of Ireland. Ireland’s call is what is played home and away. Amhrain na bhfiann Ireland’s actual anthem only gets played at home matches. Whole thing is nuts.
Whats even crazier is if the Irish national team play a home game in Ravenhill, or anywhere in the north god save the queen would be played before Irelands call.
@@charlieblake2496 and care to inform us when they have done that?
@@charlieblake2496 That never happened, and never will.
That comment came out yo arse...put it back in there dumbass
@@charlieblake2496 Thats not the case. Irelands call only is played at Irish Rugby, Hockey and cricket matches outside the republic of Ireland, including in Northern Ireland. God Save the Queen will never be an Irish sporting anthem no matter the location.
Well done. I haven't had or seen a conversation like this since 19 mumble mumble when I had a night out with the cousins of my Brit mate in Belfast. My Brit mate was - is of Huguenot extraction whose father was a bit of a sporting hero in the occupied north east. I'm Australian of Irish Catholic extraction. What a great night, talking to the dreaded Prods, I'd never heard their side. Good video
Irelands call in principle is a good idea but its like a group of toddlers wrote it. Would be better if it was sung in irish.
@wildebest Lord ye can imagine the crap they would come up with to replace it!
Very hard topic for Darren Cave to discuss and hats off trying give his view, respect for that. But he is wrong in terms of Amhrain na bhfiann being a south of the border national anthem, Amhrain na bhfiann belongs to all Irish citizens north and south of the border that hold an Irish passport. I believe he should of taken the view, if your from a Unionist background in the North of the border, Amhrain na bhfiann is not your national anthem if you choose to be, which should be respected. Half of the people in North of border would come from a Nationalist/Republican background and align themselves with the Amhrain na bhfiann and the other half of people from the North of the border would be from a Unionist background most likely not aligning with Amhrain na bhfiann, saying this is a very general view and isn't always the case for both communities.
Full credit to Darren I'm from the ROI with NI relatives rugby and sport has the power to bring everyone together regardless of supposed divisions. The 1995 WC is another example.
denis murray irelands call is a song not a sport
denis murray don’t believe the hype you see in the media
@@toomuch9762 not sure what your on about we know what the sport is and we all know it's a song.
@@toomuch9762 still crying?
Well said Darren 👍🏽
On the whole anthem thing I’m English and I hate god save the queen and I believe it should be Jerusalem, not that I hate the royals or anything it’s just not what is England, it’s Britain yeah for sure but not English
The Queen is called the Queen of England you fucktard
Technically her official title is actually Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of her other realms and territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith
I like “God save the Queen” believe it to be better than most other countries
squashoe it’s got no character though, in my opinion it’s the most boring monotone anthem out there
And it's boring as f*** lol, I'm the same, I've no problem with the royals, but before a game I wanna be belting out something a bit more exciting and inspiring haha (Jerusalem is a good call)
It’s Derry
Its Derry
@VIPICCB6 its spelt. D E R R Y the end
@VIPICCB6 I don't remember the soccer club being called Londonderry fc
Because its not
@VIPICCB6 explain this then czcams.com/video/mHvQRGpzT0g/video.html
Derry not London derry
It's official name is Londonderry, but typically shortened to Derry.
Dylan Ardundel it is LONDONDERRY
@@CaptainX2012 STFU
@@vipiccb6896 It was always Derry / Doire so it’ll always stay Derry
@@dylanarundel8924 you should
Why do people call themselves British when Britain isnt a country!?? In football and Rugby there is no British team, its Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales. Britain is a landmass containing three countries. Neither Ireland or the North are in Britain. The concept of nationality is based on individual countries and each nation has a capital. Britain does not have a capital. Google Great Britain and the information states that GB is a landmass not a nation..
Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau , it is our official anthem 🏴
Singing 'God Save the Queen' before all Northern Ireland football matches is more bonkers than Rugby with Ireland's Call tbh. Northern Ireland is representing Northern Ireland not the UK, and it's already England's anthem to boot. No wonder Catholics don't want to play for the north.
It's Northern Ireland's only official anthem, and Northern Ireland's only official flag is that of the United Kingdom, while eg Scotland has it's own anthem and flag. I think it would be nice to have our de-facto anthem, Londonderry Air officialised though.
BrandonjSlippingAway "Singing 'God Save the Queen' before all Northern Ireland football matches is more bonkers than Rugby with Ireland's Call tbh"
How is it bonkers? God Save The Queen is our national anthem!
"No wonder Catholics don't want to play for the north"
No wonder Protestants and Unionists want NOTHING to do with ROI when you can't even call our country correctly
@@CaptainX2012 We would all be in tears!
Should sing brown eyed girl instead
“ people from south the border “ there is soon to be a nationalist majority in the north and many of us northerners resent the fact they sing that shoulder to shoulder crap.
"the north" no such place
@@vipiccb6896 sir I’m not sure if you are aware but everywhere has a north , south , east and west 😂😂
@@jackmurray3630 but "the north" of "Ireland" is Donegal! NORTHERN IRELAND is a different country
Fine then , many of us in the illegally occupied 6 counties hate Ireland’s call and don’t see it as our anthem
@@jackmurray3630 "many of us in the illegally occupied 6 counties hate Ireland’s call and don’t see it as our anthem"
Please explain how NORTHERN IRELAND is "illegally occupied" you idiot! Agreed "Ireland's call" is NOT our national anthem, our anthem is GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
Soldiers song should also be played when we play abroad 🇮🇪
The tricolour needs to be rid of, it's a lazy flag.
@VIPICCB6 it already happens at home games what does singing it away make a difference?
Only if it's the Republic of Ireland team.
Nice to see the Northern Irish football association are so appeasing for Irish Catholics playing for them as the Irish Rugy team are for Northern Protestants eh? Ramming god save the queen down their throat. Just shows ye eh
It's the all Ireland rugby team VIPI you fucking muppet, amhrainn na bhfiann is the anthem whether you like it or not
Why not sing the two of them??? Keep everyone happy??
That’s like me saying oh aye I’m Spanish but I’m Portuguese
No just Derry
LONDONDERRY
Apparently my brave warriors and very splendid patriots for freedom shed their blood. But then, like everywhere else, estate agents sold it to the highest bidder.
I support all the people of Ireland we are always one people, borders and passports are only on paper. England flows full of Irish blood too, we are all cousins. Its a pity God save the Queen is sung by the English as their anthem, this is the reason I would not want to be part of the UK, who wants to be a second class citizen.
As someone from Northern Ireland, our culture tends to be different in the British communities to the Irish ones and the country of Ireland.
david rose "Its a pity God save the Queen is sung by the English as their anthem"
And why is it a pity?
"who wants to be a second class citizen."
What are you on about?
@@vipiccb6896 read it again and you might get the message, if your a subject your second class... understand it a bit more now?
@@vipiccb6896 Its a republican ideal .
Which doesn't place any person at the top of the tree simply because they happened to be born to a certain family
@@davidroseitg oh dear, full of BS!
Singing "God Save The Queen" does NOT make us second class citizen! By you attacking our anthem, it's clear to see your anti-British colours
Im from northern ireland and dont think its weird to be affiliated with both ireland and UK. I dont identify as english in the slightest and would say northern irish culture shares many more similarities with its southern cousins than england. Scotland and wales never get asked about being british and scottish/welsh. No different really for us folks... i have both passports and am proud to be a citizen of both countries. Rugby is definitely a special sport in its ability to unite a war torn island though!
I'm confused as to why Amhran Na Bhfiann is no longer sung, its nothing to do with sectarianism or anything of the kind.. people need to grow up.
You're incorrect. Wales' anthem is Wales' anthem
M2CW... As an Irish man and a rugby fan when you have players/supporters from one island that have affinities to 2 nations you have to have respect both sides of the coin, playing Amhrán na bhFiann and Ireland's Call is a way of achieving that. The only issue that I have is not playing Amhrán na bhFiann at away games, when you see La Marseillaise / Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau / Flower of Scotland and God Save the Queen getting bellowed out by the fans and players at games for me it gives them a leg up on us (Irish that is) as the emotion and pride that they have singing their national anthem or nations song is something that Iirish fans singing Irelands Call simply cant aspire to the same levels of emotion, BUT I totally see why this is the choice. I'd keep the principle but have a better song...
VIPICCB6 whilst I can see and sympathize with ulster players and fans I have to ask you one simple question it’s Ireland that you are playing for not England and as such the Irish anthem should be played as it’s Ireland that is been represented on the park can you see that?
VIPICCB6 no offense what so ever as this is a real difficult one and one that I’ve felt both sides of the coin I’ve played in the north of Ireland where as a visiting team we were not allowed play Amhrán na bhFiann but had to stand and respect god save the queen that was very hard but we sung our anthem to ourselves whilst god save the queen was finished we were berated by the crowds it was not good but I suppose if the foot was on the others shoe and ulster players had to stand for Amhrán na bhFiann and not have their anthem played then that would be wrong it’s so typical of this island and the expression an Irish solution to an Irish problem is so apt
VIPICCB6 Out of curiosity, is your heritage from outside of Ireland in your family? Like English and lowland Scottish plantationers?
@VIPICCB6 so does that make you a proud Irish Man? Are you proud to put on that green top and represent Ireland?
@Combat Enthusiast sure VIPICCB6 is a proud Irishman C'mon let's here ya say it -Billy- sorry VIPICCB6 *Proud to be Irish!*
Who is Darren cave? Has he retired ?
Scrolling on..its Derry and the north of Ireland 🇮🇪....bye..
As in Irish man I love the concept behind Irelands call I'm a huge supporter of it in principle. But it's just such a god awful, bland anthem I think we could do much better.
It has to be godawful and bland to avoid offending anyone.
Completely disagree, Danny boy would even be better in my eyes
Our anthem is good enough. Its a 32 county anthem and if they dont like it why dont they go play for England since they consider themselves British. Irelands call is embarrassing
Shoulder...... TO SHOOOOUUULDEEERR!!!!!
@@toomuch9762 while I do like belting out amhrann na bfhiann I can totally see why an ulster unionist wouldn't feel comfortable with it. Its inherently militaristic and centres around one part of our history (which should never be forgotten) but at the same time being Irish to me is much much more than just fighting against the brits
The topic was so sensitive even the Guinness kicked a fuss
Why...why out of a can
I had a boyfriend from Derry, he would want to shoot me if I called it Londonderry
Stay in there mucker. Definitely a military father. 👏🏻👍🏻
We'll sing a song, a soldier's song
With cheering, rousing chorus
As round our blazing fires we throng
The starry heavens o'er us
Impatient for the coming fight
And as we wait the morning's light
Here in the silence of the night
We'll chant a soldier's song
In valley green, or towering crag
Our fathers fought before us
And conquered 'neath the same old flag
That's proudly floating o'er us
We're children of a fighting race
That never yet has known disgrace
And as we march, the foe to face
We'll chant a soldier's song
Sons of the Gael! Men of the Pale!
The long-watched day is breaking
The serried ranks of Innisfail
Shall set the tyrant quaking
Our camp fires now are burning low
See in the east a silv'ry glow
Out yonder waits the Saxon foe
So chant a soldier's song
I'm a proud Southern Irishman and will not sing any other song, if ye don't like it that's your problem.
@VIPICCB6 Only to sectarian planter huns like you, as a proud real ulsterman I salute this song.
@VIPICCB6 What facts? Maybe go back to Britain and sing to your beloved inbred queen, Ulster is Irish.
@VIPICCB6 calling me Inbred when you're British lol settle down bud. Ulster is not British as A. NI is not ulster and B ulster existed long before the uk did. Also You're not in Britain. NI may soon be dissolved into the republic time will tell.
If everyone was like you, things would never change
@@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 "Only to sectarian planter huns like you"
So you say sectarian yet YOU call me a "hun"? Not the brightest are you?
" as a proud real ulsterman I salute this song."
You are NOT an ulsterman
Because it's an IRA Song.
I dont know the words 😣
Factually it all goes back to British imperialism and the separation of the island of Ireland. Scots were put into Northern Ireland during plantation and two countries were created.
It wasn't a country then. There was no nation of ireland at that time. It was a bunch of small independent territories.
The separation came after our war of independence. We then made a treaty and agreed to leave the 6 counties under British rule. People didn't like this and then we had the civil war but the pro treaty side won.
You got to have pride in your shirt ... not one half green and the other white just not the way things are
Pick one
Ni is not part of great Britain....its the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Hi from Antrim guys
I for one love Ireland’s Call, it may not be as beautiful as the Welsh or Scottish but it’s simple and effective, everyone knows it and it unites north and south
Saoirse del Tufo no it doesnt. A majority of people hate it even a lot of the Irish players
too much “a majority hate it” that’s bullshit
I think it's boring and bland, need something more uplifting than it.
@@saoirsedeltufo7436 It's trash are song is the solders song, fuck ye if you don't like it from a southern Irishman.
@VIPICCB6 You can talk all the shit you want but you have no valid argument or come back. NI belongs to the republic and you will go back to your inbred land swift haste. ROI is Ireland get use to it moron.
Ireland’s call is a decent song but it’s not our anthem. I like having the boys up north not because they’re good at rugby but because it unifies us. I just think the sport of rugby should be enough without having to pander to them with a made up anthem. I don’t expect them to sing our anthem I just find it frustrating that when we play abroad we can’t even sing our actual anthem. It’s also annoying that we can’t even be represented by our actual flag. As I said I love having the boys up north play with us but in the boxing none of these changes apply so why rugby?
Liam Williams the IRFU is an all island body and has the responsibility to be inclusive hence Ireland’s call. Amhrán na bhFiann should be scrapped anyway as it’s out of date.
ahlads I understand that mate. But I’m allowed voice my opinion on it. Why is the actual national anthem out of date?
@@liamwilliams6651 the actual anthem of the irish republic (not the actual anthem of the island of irlenad) is a tad... sectarian and steeped in blood sacrifice... mind you a lot of nations have this baggage, it's just more that it's a tad shite
@@colmivers The soldiers song is not shit.
@VIPICCB6 NI doesn't have a anthem and it belongs to ROI.
Northern Irish fear English
You’re Irish or British
Riddle me this why do Americans say Ireland so weird
Skye Hynes I don't know why americans get such abuse for there pronounciation of ireland,its far better than the brits who pronounce it as island
It's Derry .
I know right
it is LONDONDERRY
I’m sorry. Don’t tell him it’s called “London Derry” when the whole point of the two names is because you can have a view on it. Ireland is catholic, NI is Protestant unless your also catholic then your Irish and it’s called Derry. Absolute joke
Trust me this guys a plonker, seems like such a small deal but it actually pisses me off
@@finlay1186 yeah man. Like that’s the sort of things war starts over 😂😂
@@kierboy1296 fucking nonsense
@@finlay1186 wait are you disagreeing with me or are you saying the video is stupid ??
@@kierboy1296 I’m saying the man on the video calling Derry Londonderry is stupid. I’m completely agreeing with you mate
Amhrán na bhFiann is out anthem.
Derry. it was always Derry. no fucking englishcapitalDerry.
it is LONDONDERRY
@@vipiccb6896 Derry first and still Derry, not all the capital letters in the world will make it any different ya english reject.
@@OperationMindPhuk "Derry first and still Derry"
Yet it is simply and factually called LONDONDERRY
"not all the capital letters in the world will make it any different ya english reject"
You call me an English reject? Funny, considering you're "Irish" and not even living in "Ireland" hahahaha
@@vipiccb6896 only english brownoses call it englishcapitalderry, if you want to live in england so bad why dont you move there you hateful b.
@@OperationMindPhuk no, anyone with a brain and are not republicans call it LONDONDERRY, it's true name
Amhran na Bhfiann is the National Anthem. Ireland’s Call is the song for Irish Rugby. Don’t mislabel it as the ‘national anthem’
National anthem of the Irish Republic, not all of the island of Ireland.
You know what the 2 of you must have American heritage so clued up on things 🤣🤣
If you play for the National irish team you are irish. If you were born on the island of Ireland you are irish. If you think you’re British go ahead and play with the English. If you do not think you’re Irish and you don’t sing the National anthem it’s not your team.
"If you play for the National irish team you are irish"
Nope
"If you were born on the island of Ireland you are irish"
Nope, we are born in NORTHERN IRELAND which makes us British
"If you think you’re British go ahead and play with the English"
Proving you have NO IDEA what you are talking about
For me personally i cannot fully warm to the Ireland rugby team because of Ireland's call. Its not and never was the anthem of Ireland.
Identity maybe nuanced in Northern Ireland but it is not in the Irish Republic and never was but yet our anthem is being cast aside for the sake of political correctness.
We are a very proud small nation and we could be on the verge of winning something major in this Rugby WC. But for me if this does happen (and that's a big if) the whole occasion will be sullied by the playing of Ireland's call before the game.
Can anyone think of any scenario when a country potentially on the cusp of sporting greatness, has their anthem denied to them because of political posturing?
I just wish we had a republic of Ireland rugby team, then i could fully embrace the team.
If this team win then great, but it will be no sporting life-changing moment for me. Is Éireannach mé🇮🇪☘️
Your either British and northern Irish (prod)or just plain Irish (catholic)
It's more of "Irish" meaning from the island of Ireland rather than the Irish republic. Like "British" in the British Lions meant from the geographical British Isles.
@@thesmithersy Well no because it’s been quite deliberately named the British and Irish lions.
@@stevenmcalister826 Only as a PC gesture, before 2001 it was just the British Lions as everyone knew that British in that context meant British Isles.
@@thesmithersy And? Regardless the British Isles isn’t a recognised term used by the UK or Ireland.
@@stevenmcalister826 Yes it is, it's a geographical term, not a political one.
I would love to see the island unified under the crown again. The Republic have made a pigs ear of things.
Really 😂 standard of living is higher now in the republic
@@imedi what BS are you on about? Your system is FAILING
@@vipiccb6896 think you need to check the figures then
@@imedi nope, I think you do! How is your housing crisis? Health care crisis? Education crisis? etc
@@vipiccb6896 Your head must be firmly buried in your ass or still living in the 78s or 80s the republic has overtaken the north on nearly every metric you care to mention from annual household spending to longevity , to national GNP per Capita ..
Your not seriously saying northern Ireland doesn't have a health care , housing , education crisis itself worse than the republic ..
You should be thanking the republic that you can still get single market access to the EU as it would be far worse up there otherwise 😂
If your born on the island of Ireland your Irish, simple as that,,
If you're born in the British Isles your British, simple as that,,
@@CaptainX2012 wrong
@VIPICCB6 glad you agree if you're born on the island of Ireland your Irish thankya
@VIPICCB6 The term British isles is not accepted. People born in NI are born on the landmass of Ireland, they're Irish no matter their deformed inbred British ancestry or their glorious celtic ancestry.
@VIPICCB6 No you're not a ulsterman, ulsterman is a native Irish of ulster you're a dirty planter hun with the name Wilson. Fuck off back to Britain and take your fleg with you.
theres no such place as londonderry
Yep in London England
Rubbish topic