Tuku Morgan is fired up about the backlash against te reo | 30 with Guyon Espiner Ep.8 | RNZ

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  • Waikato-Tainui leader Tuku Morgan tells Guyon why he’s so fired up about the backlash against te reo Māori, how young Māori have the power to change the future and why he's not sorry about that underwear scandal. Watch 30 with Guyon Espiner every Wednesday at 3pm | Subscribe: ‪@RNZVideo‬

Komentáře • 339

  • @craignalder1850
    @craignalder1850 Před měsícem +63

    If you want to speak Maori, speak Maori.
    If you do not want to speak Maori, do not speak Maori.
    What's the issue?

    • @QuietManUK
      @QuietManUK Před měsícem +15

      Our children being forced to learn to speak Maori.

    • @AperaRangatauaPai
      @AperaRangatauaPai Před měsícem

      @@QuietManUKwell f off bk to england than

    • @diyguru9677
      @diyguru9677 Před měsícem +14

      @@QuietManUK Wait until you hear about kids who had their reo beat our of them and forced to speak English. There's only one language that's indigenous and unique to Aotearoa. Never forget te tiriti is a partnership.

    • @Alex-it5ej
      @Alex-it5ej Před měsícem +7

      @@diyguru9677 so because of past failures, the kids of today must repent and learn it... wow

    • @ronnymcdonald2543
      @ronnymcdonald2543 Před měsícem +15

      @@diyguru9677 Thats simply NOT true, records clearly document it was elitist Maori who wanted Maoris to stop using Te Reo, it was actually Catholics that were encouraging Maori to be spoke by children ... Stop Re-writing history. And Maori colonized New Zealand so they are NOT indigenous to this land amd the Treaty Of Waitangi clearly seeds sovereignty to the Crown.

  • @mobbarley7517
    @mobbarley7517 Před měsícem +13

    Corrupt ex politician are we meant to trust this clown

    • @dd2451
      @dd2451 Před měsícem

      He likes his undies. Wonder what Winnie thinks of the trougher now?

    • @neilstuarr2278
      @neilstuarr2278 Před 28 dny +1

      Very corrupt and self centred

  • @JusticeFi
    @JusticeFi Před měsícem +5

    This interview is good, he aint scared to ask the important questions

  • @JasonPryde-xi1mu
    @JasonPryde-xi1mu Před měsícem +28

    Racism is a big call… one that any Māori spokesperson’s continue to say when critiqued. The rest of our nation with all ethnic and race based needs works together for NZ, leave behind those that play a racism card or entitlement. Born in NZ you are NZ!

    • @zrymill
      @zrymill Před měsícem +3

      Yes. Everyone needs to join the human race. The other details are a matter of personal choice.

    • @stevesmith1923
      @stevesmith1923 Před měsícem

      I find Maori to be the most racist people in New Zealand and they get away with it without question.

    • @AperaRangatauaPai
      @AperaRangatauaPai Před měsícem +6

      Because your telling us to just speak english live within a pākehā culture on our own land

    • @daddybob6096
      @daddybob6096 Před měsícem +6

      @@AperaRangatauaPai No you're wrong ehoa, trust me, it's not about having different languages, it's about all living together as a people and working together in unity for the good of our country. Maori alone are not the owners of this country, we all are tangata whenua, not just Maori, that view point is old fashioned. No one owns any country. God provided this land for all of us. Kia Ora Ehoa. Ropata Wirihana.

    • @user-wt4ie6iu6p
      @user-wt4ie6iu6p Před měsícem +6

      No one owns any country???
      Right...can you say no to paying rates and taxes without some sort of punishment?
      Can you do whatever you wish on your land without first having to check whether you are breaching any covenants?
      Can you go and take what you wish from our oceans without a fisheries officer hiding in the flax ready to leave you with a fine, take your car, boat, house plus leaving you with a pending court appearance?
      Can you just help yourself to waterways to help irrigate your farms crops without getting slapped with infringement notices for not having permits to allow a water take?
      Can you build a house on your land without first having to obtain building and resource consents, soil and Geotec reports for your build site?
      Can you just help yourself to resources found in native forests that happen to be on your property without paying some sort of price whether financially or legally?
      Can you keep any gold or silver or any other precious metals or rare earth minerals found on or under your land without getting into trouble with the govt at some point?
      Are you sure nobody can own a country??Seems like a whole lot of rules and laws for a country that cannot be owned by anyone...

  • @daddybob6096
    @daddybob6096 Před měsícem +40

    I'm NZ born caucasian. When i was a young man, (30s), i attended night school where i learned Te Reo, because i had a lot of Maori mates and was genuinely interested in the language. More recently, approximately 6 years ago when i was 78yo and walking for exercise, midday in my suburb, i greeted a younger Maori man (stranger) in Te Reo in a friendly manner. 'Kia ora ehoa, ke te pe hea koe?" Well, he got really mad at me, swore profanely at me, called me 'Honky", and threatened me with violence, all the while i was protesting my innocence at not intending to offend him. He said he was 65yo. He tried to keep it going though i walked away. This was in a busy suburban street, lots of cars passing at the time. The guy was much smaller in stature than myself, so i did wonder what his problem was. This incident has given me cause to desist from using Te Reo language to anyone, ever since. I'm now 84yo. Robert. LH.

    • @zrymill
      @zrymill Před měsícem +2

      Wow, what do you think he was having issues with?
      @daddybob6096
      1 hour ago
      I'm NZ born caucasian. When i was a young man, (30s), i attended night school where i learned Te Reo, because i had a lot of Maori mates and was genuinely interested in the language. More recently, approximately 6 years ago when i was 78yo and walking for exercise, midday in my suburb, i greeted a younger Maori man (stranger) in Te Reo in a friendly manner. 'Kia ora ehoa, ke te pe hea koe?" Well, he got really mad at me, swore profanely at me, called me 'Honky", and threatened me with violence, all the while i was protesting my innocence at not intending to offend him. He said he was 65yo. He tried to keep it going though i walked away. This was in a busy suburban street, lots of cars passing at the time. The guy was much smaller in stature than myself, so i did wonder what his problem was. This incident has given me cause to desist from using Te Reo language to anyone, ever since. I'm now 84yo. Robert. LH.

    • @str8gary
      @str8gary Před měsícem +9

      I'm sorry to hear that, sounds like an awful experience. I've personally had the exact opposite and nothing but positivity. Perhaps you unluckily got a genuine crazy person. I would encourage you to not let one bad experience stop you exercising your freedom of speech and get back on the horse!

    • @daddybob6096
      @daddybob6096 Před měsícem +4

      @@zrymill No idea, i was very concerned about that. I mentioned it to various Maori people i am close to, and they also had no idea why this guy took offence. I am a NZ Army Veteran and served with many Maori soldiers both here and abroad, we were brothers with a common cause. This reaction really disturbed both me and my wife.

    • @AperaRangatauaPai
      @AperaRangatauaPai Před měsícem +8

      I am truely sorry for that experience e hoa continue speaking te reo

    • @diyguru9677
      @diyguru9677 Před měsícem +5

      For 100 points, I'll take things that didn't happen.

  • @SailingAwayNZ
    @SailingAwayNZ Před měsícem +10

    No one is stopping Māori or other speaking Māori, most dead languages have died again when funding has been pulled. 12:08"The face of corruption apars in many forms" public money. He screams Racism making this a Māori/white issue. Europeans are only 70% of the population. With democracy we all have equal say as a people, our MMP gives a greater say to Māori than others with 7 guaranteed seats, currently 33 Māori are in parliament approximately 1 of every 4 MP's. in the population Māori are 1 in 5. Blatant racism at 24:13 & 24:42, threats at 26:07

    • @AperaRangatauaPai
      @AperaRangatauaPai Před měsícem

      Gt fked use stole our land and came here we didnt come to england did we

    • @cherylreid2964
      @cherylreid2964 Před měsícem +2

      Hating Māori is dreadful and damaging.

    • @feraltechproductionsFTP
      @feraltechproductionsFTP Před měsícem +3

      Perhaps read Te Tiriti o Waitangi...?
      Te reo is not dead. You literally cannot understand the founding document of this country without understanding at least some of it, so it can't be dead, as it is necessary. Not only that, if it is alive and well in the mouths of people who speak it and have it as their first language, as many do, then it can't be dead. Much as pakeha tried to stamp it out, they could not. When the courts had to decide, it turns out, legally, they are not allowed to stamp it out and need to promote and nurture it. The government have obligations to Maori laid down in that document. If it is breeched, we have big problems....F around, find out

    • @SailingAwayNZ
      @SailingAwayNZ Před měsícem

      @@feraltechproductionsFTP I would rate Maori similar to Latin (But Latin has a written language) still used but not spoken as a main language in any country "most dead languages have died again when funding has been pulled", Gaelic had a revival until funding stopped. The exception to this has been Hebrew, that was bought back by the Jewish people in Israel. I find that you focused on one small part of what I said and completely glossed over the "Corruption" and "Racism" . Also not acknowledging that per captor Māori are over represented in parliament. It is not a case of "F around, find out" if you support the crown and democracy and if you don't then I feel sorry for you. The treaty at it's base stopped tribal infighting/waring with each other and the Europeans. from 1975 the narrative on Māori activist has changed from sorting out and moving on as one to a "Māori's are the caretakers of the land" and "Co-governance". It is not for me to say if this is right or wrong, but it should be able to be debated without "F around, find out" attitudes from a small number of Māori. Just a side note at Bastian point (Yes I was there, in support of Māori) the Slogan was "Don't honor the treaty"

    • @SailingAwayNZ
      @SailingAwayNZ Před měsícem

      @@cherylreid2964 I agree with you, hating of Māori or Māori hating is dreadful and damaging

  • @user-eo2yb9qo2w
    @user-eo2yb9qo2w Před měsícem +16

    Problems are global. We're all in this together. Time to abandon negative tribalism and lies.

    • @djhemirukahemisphere8893
      @djhemirukahemisphere8893 Před měsícem

      easy to say when the govt is perceived has taken the land from the tribes and the resources.

    • @cherylreid2964
      @cherylreid2964 Před měsícem

      @user-eo2yb9qo2w but the white supremacists won't STOP 🛑

  • @missbluerain
    @missbluerain Před měsícem +10

    23:49 pay attention to Tuku Morgans reply. I would say this is at the heart of a lot of NZ's racial tension.

    • @AperaRangatauaPai
      @AperaRangatauaPai Před měsícem +2

      Yes started by pākehā ignorance

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 Před měsícem +1

      @@AperaRangatauaPai Which is continued by this government's ignorance.

    • @missbluerain
      @missbluerain Před měsícem +1

      @@AperaRangatauaPai we should have the conversation... Without name calling and insults from any side.

    • @cherylreid2964
      @cherylreid2964 Před měsícem

      @missbluerain what happened in the past was the entrenchment of white supremacists privilege.
      The racist whites employ lies and exaggeration propaganda to drive division.
      Look at ACTs David Seymour and Nationals #CLuxon leading the way with years of race-baiting to divide...then they blame Labour 😮

    • @dd2451
      @dd2451 Před měsícem

      Yes, without naming names, Maori hate the new immigration of Indians and Chinese.

  • @jaredchristie8882
    @jaredchristie8882 Před měsícem +4

    Everyone is just trying to get by and get on with life.if you want to speak maori then get on with it and don't force it on people who don't care about it.its not up to the government to tell you how to be maori

    • @stephenlennon7369
      @stephenlennon7369 Před měsícem

      Whose forcing it?

    • @t00t27
      @t00t27 Před měsícem

      Pffft Would never let this racist gov tell me what being Māori means

    • @Sarah-ne6cv
      @Sarah-ne6cv Před měsícem

      @@stephenlennon7369 Schools.

    • @dd2451
      @dd2451 Před měsícem

      @@stephenlennon7369 Wakey wakey

  • @user-yy4uz4fg6s
    @user-yy4uz4fg6s Před měsícem +1

    I''m Maori and get what he's saying we are losing the original ethnic indigenous race culture beliefs but it's only happened as many Maoris have married pakaha like my children who now are white to look at blue eye Maoris and because thousands of us Maoris love our pakaha husbands and wives we don't go against our white side and this has been lost through even my grandmother who was pure Maori married an Irishman so because we are so water down in our blood we now look at our Maori side as part we are not pure breed anymore so we all part white so it's come in today like David Seymour has mentioned we need to except as one and if you want to learn the Maori side of you do it with blessing but most today Maori know because we are not full blooded is to get on with our white side instead of blaming them for why we haven't made in life .

  • @stevehughes1510
    @stevehughes1510 Před měsícem +8

    He's a dinosaur and never been in the national eye other than with the underpants episode, that was so hilarious in the '90s.

  • @user-cb9hs7hw8o
    @user-cb9hs7hw8o Před měsícem +22

    How about Maori look after their selves regarding language ,health etc.
    Maori have a good financial setup now and can afford to help others and stop relying on NZ Government and taxpayers

    • @briansatchell2319
      @briansatchell2319 Před měsícem +6

      They know they onto a good thing MMP. === More Money Please

    • @AperaRangatauaPai
      @AperaRangatauaPai Před měsícem +2

      We would just give our land back

    • @AperaRangatauaPai
      @AperaRangatauaPai Před měsícem +4

      @@briansatchell2319do we because its never worked for us

    • @user-cb9hs7hw8o
      @user-cb9hs7hw8o Před měsícem +1

      @@AperaRangatauaPai 8 and a half Billion dollars, Make it work for you

    • @stephenlennon7369
      @stephenlennon7369 Před měsícem

      ​@@user-cb9hs7hw8opeanuts and where did you get 8 billion from? More BS

  • @scottkeen3712
    @scottkeen3712 Před měsícem +9

    The perceived attack is not against Maori. Its against these elite gravy train passengers that are getting fat off the tax payer. And they continue to push that the average guy is a victim and cant be a maori without them being paid heaps.

    • @nathanharrington9070
      @nathanharrington9070 Před 10 dny

      Do you get upset with the likes of Bill English who completed the review of Kainga Ora or Paula Bennett whose the Chair of Pharmac

  • @MaxSpeedNZ
    @MaxSpeedNZ Před měsícem +21

    Pakeha have as many rights as Māori. We are all indigenous to earth. He is pedalling racism. Special treatment. Rights for some but not others based entirely on birth right. Almost like the British aristocracy ironically.

    • @cherylreid2964
      @cherylreid2964 Před měsícem +1

      @MaxSpeedNZ Māori have SUFFERED the "special" treatment of Hate against Māori and theft of their land🤯
      You swallowed the Lies 😮

    • @stoneageart9965
      @stoneageart9965 Před měsícem +2

      @@cherylreid2964 yes but that stopped once they signed the treaty and the genocide committed by the tribes was stopped along with slavery.
      I agree those tribes should be held to account for murder rape cannibalism and slavery

    • @dd2451
      @dd2451 Před měsícem +1

      @@stoneageart9965 Yep Ron Crosby's bool\k "The Musket wars" outlines this. Prior to 1840 Maori were hell bent on tribal land confiscation and pogroms.

    • @stoneageart9965
      @stoneageart9965 Před měsícem

      @@dd2451 ./ In a land of no animals human meat was too important to waste. NZ was a trap the Maori could not escape,a land of horror and evil '
      They should kiss Capt Cooks feet for saving them,lol

  • @maorimaori218
    @maorimaori218 Před měsícem

    The unbending mindset is sowly fading OUT Matua Tuku thanks to social media and globalism. The world wants to see Māori language, Culture, and much more not another mini me Great Britain nation, people can get that anywhere. Sad most Kiwis don't realize that due to entitlement that has been afforded to them for almost 200 years, the new generation of Kiwis won't put up with it because their interests are all connected thru social media platforms, they realise they need each other to build this nation of Aotearoa NZ. Unlike pre internet Kiwis who were segregated in their way of thinking. Here comes the BOOOOOM GENERATION!

  • @zrymill
    @zrymill Před měsícem +17

    I grew up in the UK, my ancestors were Welsh, Irish, English and Greek and probably some other stuff if we go way back thousands of years. Imagine if the Welsh part of me claimed ownership of who I am and added me to their numbers and tried to force me to learn their outdated culture and the old language that is only spoken in parts of Wales. This is what mixed race Maori are doing to each other. Its like a form of ethnic dictatorship forced on, or guilted and shamed into mixed race Maori who are trying to make their way in the world. If I was mixed race Maori I'd probably just say I'm a mixed race Kiwi and a member of the human race. Most of us are mostly a product of where we grew up. Its a shame the way race issues are going in New Zealand.

    • @AperaRangatauaPai
      @AperaRangatauaPai Před měsícem +5

      Dont speak for us mate

    • @badjelly1027
      @badjelly1027 Před měsícem

      You nailed it

    • @EricMcleod-sy1xe
      @EricMcleod-sy1xe Před měsícem +1

      "...to learn their outdated culture and the old language that is only spoken in parts of Wales." Welsh is compulsory in Welsh schooling until age 16. Ask yourself "What land are you standing in right now?":

    • @Jon.Morimoto
      @Jon.Morimoto Před měsícem +1

      ​@@EricMcleod-sy1xe Ethnic nationalism was wrong in South Africa, and is currently morally offensive in Wales and New Zealand.

    • @lorrainedixon6001
      @lorrainedixon6001 Před měsícem +2

      It doesnt matter how much milk you put in that cuppa tea. It will still be a cuppa tea. You're Welsh, it runs through your veins. Dont waste your ancestors time and Energy to get you to where you are today.. Once your Welsh language is gone, you lose your identity and rare Welsh culture. Get me? Well, its the same for Maori

  • @khoorirune4573
    @khoorirune4573 Před měsícem +1

    As if old underwear Tuku had anything to clarify get real

  • @cathybrind2381
    @cathybrind2381 Před měsícem +5

    Pity Guyon has to waffle unintelligibly for the first 2-3 seconds but that's RNZ for you isn't it.

  • @mellow5606
    @mellow5606 Před měsícem

    I think most pakehas don't believe or even have ever heard of a partnership. Three Waters changed that. What is Tukus vision for the future I wonder? Some radical new ideas coming and nz needs to be ready and open about it.

  • @hakara32wirihana
    @hakara32wirihana Před měsícem +1

    True, TRue, TRUe, TRUE....

  • @AlexthunderGnum
    @AlexthunderGnum Před měsícem +20

    So please tell me, am I, as an immigrant to Aotearoa, only have the right to work and pay taxes, but not to have my voice and my rights here? Not sure what was meant by that statement. Do you see me here only as the source of labour, but not as a citizen, is that what it means to be secondary to Maori people? Please explain how do you see that type of relationship working. I do appreciate Maori culture and do want to be a supporter of it, but I cannot do that while being pushed on the other side. How do Maori people see my role in the society they want, if any, please?

    • @trevorauld1039
      @trevorauld1039 Před měsícem +5

      NEW ZEALAND 🇳🇿

    • @AlexthunderGnum
      @AlexthunderGnum Před měsícem

      @@trevorauld1039 Whatever you want to name it is not the matter here. It is who we are to each other that is.

    • @Dee-sx4mr
      @Dee-sx4mr Před měsícem +8

      @AlexthunderGnum, as an immigrant (so am I), we have an obligation to learn and respect the local culture, not just taking advantage/exploit the opportunities we get from this country. I read books and listen to podcasts to understand how Maori has been treated and why they are so upset with the current government. It's appalling that many new citizens don't know te reo Maori is one of NZ official languages.

    • @kimnzg8195
      @kimnzg8195 Před měsícem +11

      Te tiriti is about Maori at the time trying to mitigate the effects of forced colonisation. It was between Maori and the crown, both parties need to agree to end a contract. As pakeha it doesn't really matter what we think.
      Also Maori aren't privileged they are over represented in every bad statistic. This isn't a moral thing it is the effect of intergenerational trauma from this colonisation.

    • @mark561
      @mark561 Před měsícem +1

      I think you've read the room perfectly sir & it seems very clear that the role of 'Pakeha' (non-Maori) is to keep quiet, pay taxes & become the good little slaves they want us to be. Time to leave this racist cesspit.

  • @cathybrind2381
    @cathybrind2381 Před měsícem +3

    There will be hell to pay? We need to protect our culture? It's under increasing threat? We need to safeguard the future of our young ones? Yes I think we could say Tuku has captured the feelings of so many Pakeha New Zealanders extremely well. Well done.

  • @sueedwards9334
    @sueedwards9334 Před měsícem +4

    How does anyone own the water that falls from the sky??

  • @mrsm482
    @mrsm482 Před měsícem

    I respect everyone's language. Also, I don't impose my language on others. Respect goes both ways. Speak your language at home, like I do. English is a global language of communication. Questions?

  • @AiriniSamuels
    @AiriniSamuels Před měsícem +3

    As usual Guyon good interview

  • @timkeane3800
    @timkeane3800 Před měsícem

    "I had a false belief
    I thought I came here to stay
    We're all just visiting
    All just breaking like waves.
    Push me! Pull me!
    So if there were no angels would there be no sin?
    You better stop me before I begin
    But let me say: if I behave can you arrange a spacious hole in the ground
    Somewhere nice make it nice
    Where the land meets high tide.
    Push me! Pull me!
    Like a cloud dropping rain
    I'm discarding all thought
    I'll dry up, leaving puddles on the ground
    I'm like an opening band for the sun.
    Push me! Pull me! Or Pull me out!"
    Eddy Vedder, pearl jam.
    A great song by a great guy and band, that sums up the futility of life for us mear mortals here on this ball of rock spinning around a star that rises and falls in the milky way galaxy. Our time here is limited yet we waste it arguing amongst our selves over material value and man made constructs, that of which we can not take with us when we finaly depart, I look at it this way. While we are here we are all custodians and with that should strive to do good, help your fellow man/woman, and leave this world in a beter state than we found it for those that will follow, regardless of your race, creed or religious leanings, we all bleed red, we are all or this earth and are the stuff of stars, solar beings, scientifically proven.

    • @lorrainedixon6001
      @lorrainedixon6001 Před měsícem

      well you better sing that to this stupid coalition government then eh

  • @feesullivan3439
    @feesullivan3439 Před měsícem +6

    I think we need a referendum. David Seymour is correct. We are all equal.

  • @tipupakoro5729
    @tipupakoro5729 Před měsícem +1

    I love my reo Now i am learning Chinese.

  • @enumeratenz
    @enumeratenz Před měsícem +3

    Thank God that ACT have enacted Charter Schools so that those that want to teach Te Reo and Maori culture can do so.
    No one is saying Te Reo Maori is irrelevant ... in global terms, if your view is global ... maybe English would be your first choice.
    There IS NO PARTNERSHIP detailed in the Treaty of Waitangi. Maori leaders ceded sovereignty and earned rights and duties of becoming British subjects for all people. The people who signed the Treaty maintained Rangatiritanga but this does not mean the Crown has to maintain their Rangatiritanga.
    I cannot help but think someone who repeats "... those white people" and proceeds to detail how they think and why they are wrong ... committing the logical fallacy CS Lewis called "Bulverism".

  • @paulleighton7078
    @paulleighton7078 Před měsícem +1

    Languages die out , that’s just the way it is . Stone Age cultures died out , or were taken over that’s life .
    How many English would be around if Wakas paddled up the Thames 200 years ago . 😂

    • @rangisullivan1591
      @rangisullivan1591 Před měsícem

      Your hitler attitude is obvious the people of coulor are as good if not better than than white people like yourself

  • @mattclarke3621
    @mattclarke3621 Před měsícem +13

    Gold-plated underpants... Could have fed many, but Tuku had a big ego.. What has changed ? No different to john tamihere the professional grifter and wannabe king.

  • @petequirke364
    @petequirke364 Před 26 dny

    shocking. I've been living in the Waikato for 5 years now and Waikato-Tainui do stuff all to help their people. I stayed at the Novotel Hamilton Tainui one time went out onto Victoria Street early in the morning to find a cafe, noticed homeless on the street, a lot being Maori, do you now who were out there giving food away to these homeless Maori, no it wasn't Tainui, it was the immigrant Indian Sikhs. This guy loves to play the blame game, but from I see there are two sides of Maori in this country, the have's and the have not's & it's easier from for the have's to continue to blame, old white men, (racist comment) than for Tuku Morgan to stand in front of a mirror and ask himself the question, do Maori have a responsibility to themselves.... or are 65 year old white guys, like me, going to continue taking this type of BS, FOR EVER!

  • @moewaka1
    @moewaka1 Před měsícem +3

    Jacinda Adern's government undid all the gains for te reo over the preceding decades - their sledgehammer approach has done damage that will take years to undo. I was part of the promotion of te reo that Jacinda and her government undid.

  • @MaoriWithAttitude
    @MaoriWithAttitude Před měsícem +2

    Best way to protect Te Reo is to create a separate Parliament and make te reo Maori the first language

  • @neilstuarr2278
    @neilstuarr2278 Před 28 dny

    You talk it tuku. But you'll have to keep english in your head because 90 % of us can't be fcked learning another language. Thats more important than your pride tuku.

  • @rabitt6111
    @rabitt6111 Před měsícem

    We don't embrace tradition and provincial culture. Transformation is future tradition and culture yet to exist. The past is the past and we don't want it.

  • @user-ts2vs4gn9g
    @user-ts2vs4gn9g Před měsícem

    Tuku survived Guyons corrosive questions, kia kaha Tuku, your noones fool

  • @sueedwards9334
    @sueedwards9334 Před měsícem

    Have they not realised that European values include freedom of conscience and thought, and no compulsion to think or speak in a particular way? In other words, force us to do something, and we will resist. Is it really Maorí values to force people to do things against their will? It seems so, sadly.

    • @t00t27
      @t00t27 Před měsícem

      European values? what value’s has the crown brought over, colonialism?
      Made us a second class, basically took control of our whole country, try to force us to speak English, they never want us to be Māori they always want to change and convert us to they’re will, where we now have to follow under them? What a joke

  • @moewaka1
    @moewaka1 Před měsícem +1

    what rubbish Guyon (first 2 seconds) - do some research

  • @margueritemccartney3607
    @margueritemccartney3607 Před měsícem +7

    What a load of bollocks.

  • @marklayland5424
    @marklayland5424 Před měsícem +1

    If it’s in English most of the world can understand it, it’s that simple. Especially government agencies, you want to speak te reo do it, if you don’t dont. No one is stopping you including this government.

  • @Sequoia690
    @Sequoia690 Před měsícem +3

    Tuku go and buy some new underpants - this time from your own money!

  • @ronnynolegs
    @ronnynolegs Před měsícem

    Not allowed to speak Maori lets keep it that way 💯

  • @patu5798
    @patu5798 Před měsícem

    Tuku playing the race card over his spending. He dined at the public trough on the tax payer and his whakapapa and then pulls the race card. Disgusting.

  • @redtussock
    @redtussock Před měsícem +9

    Gave up after 2 minutes ... Do what you want, the treaty gifted Maori peace and the opportunity to develop, the same equal opportunity. And essentially elitist Maori in their $89 undies has failed to convert the good faith contributions of NZ tax payers funds into the basis of success for their young people.

  • @user-kl8op6hp1q
    @user-kl8op6hp1q Před měsícem

    We know what color undies Morgan wears.

  • @markgrimward9077
    @markgrimward9077 Před měsícem +10

    unfortuantely tuku is ill served by his punitive race baiting perspective and his demand we conform to his version of race conformity by us learning a stonseage language to some how redress historical grevience while we must subdue our curtural sense to appease his racist veiw

    • @ladyjusticewarriorqueenz2005
      @ladyjusticewarriorqueenz2005 Před měsícem

      I agree he's a crook like Nanaia mahuta, tuheitia paki. They fatten themselves, who pays their court costs?? We Are Being Robbed to pay for these criminals.

  • @andrewgoldfinch7745
    @andrewgoldfinch7745 Před měsícem

    He serves his wallet no one else

  • @RK-P-zh3nn
    @RK-P-zh3nn Před měsícem

    This country is Maori. If you don’t like it. Haere atu.

  • @torqingheads
    @torqingheads Před měsícem

    Maori net contribution to our economy is zero, in fact they are a massive burden.

  • @djpomare
    @djpomare Před měsícem +7

    Co-governance is in the treaty. Brits replaced rangatiratanga (run by local chiefs) into sovereignty (run by UK royals). The treaty house was set on fire but the treaty document still exists showing the details along with its burnt frayed edges. We've tried the colonial system for a hell of a long time and now is the time to give the actual documented deal a fair go.

    • @mfnzer
      @mfnzer Před měsícem +3

      Bulll

    • @djpomare
      @djpomare Před měsícem +3

      @@mfnzer Look it up. The details are there for all New Zealanders

    • @mfnzer
      @mfnzer Před měsícem +3

      Show me the word partnership in the treaty

    • @mfnzer
      @mfnzer Před měsícem

      ​@@djpomare you lot live in a fantasy. A maori utopia when the reality is you where a stone age culture complex in its own way yet violent and ignorant. What do maori know of mass transportation? Banking? Stop pretending you lived in Wakanda

    • @djpomare
      @djpomare Před měsícem +4

      @@mfnzer Rangatiratanga. It's in my comments. It's 2024 so anyone can type it into a language translator.

  • @AperaRangatauaPai
    @AperaRangatauaPai Před měsícem

    Good on you matua Te reo ki te ao its here and it will never leave !!!

  • @manguparatene2774
    @manguparatene2774 Před měsícem +6

    What about luxton lied. on his cv

    • @kimkay2196
      @kimkay2196 Před měsícem

      So you have never lied & where's the proof Luxon lied on his cv . Labour MPs break the law drive drunk & flee the scene of crime etc greens MPs shoplift & you moan about luxons cv🤣

    • @manguparatene2774
      @manguparatene2774 Před měsícem

      Just shows Whiteman speck with fork tongue

    • @Jon.Morimoto
      @Jon.Morimoto Před měsícem

      ​​​@@kimkay2196 Mangu seems to be the kind of chap who lives on grievance and impotent rage. There was an election in October 2023. I don't remember Mangu lifting his buttocks off the couch and visiting neighbours to inform them about Luxon's cv. Now that his side lost, instead of organising for the next election, he spends his time on the internet complaining about the government. What a social parasite and political termite!

  • @heywopics7485
    @heywopics7485 Před měsícem +2

    Was it the academics in Universities who invented all these thousands of new Te Reo Maori words in recent decades? I would love to know. Too many words to be a natural evolution.

    • @keriboyjs
      @keriboyjs Před měsícem

      1000 Words are added to the English dictionary every year, 90,000 in the 20th century alone…..

    • @heywopics7485
      @heywopics7485 Před měsícem

      ​@@keriboyjsYes but Te Reo Maori was a new language, hence the new name, largely invented in recent decades. I would like to know how and where thousands of words the equivalent of English words were invented. Many at the Universities? Too condensed a period of time to be all a natural evolution.

  • @stoneageart9965
    @stoneageart9965 Před měsícem +4

    Who else knows it was Maori who forced the Government to ban Maori in schools ?
    the marker pen crowd never mention this

  • @warrenmartin2982
    @warrenmartin2982 Před měsícem +4

    Funny interview funny the old white guys remember what new Zealanders all knew from 1860

    • @michaelhowell8412
      @michaelhowell8412 Před měsícem

      Every white person knows exactly what went on, they'll always tell you what the Māori Chiefs were thinking (even if evidence suggests otherwise)

  • @user-ts2vs4gn9g
    @user-ts2vs4gn9g Před měsícem

    Kingitanga kotahitanga

  • @richardwalker5232
    @richardwalker5232 Před 24 dny

    What a clown

  • @joshua29885
    @joshua29885 Před měsícem +2

    23:49 question he’s right. Immigrants or any new citizens don’t or shouldn’t have the benefits that Maori get. Even pakeha have those benefits. Maori and pakeha signed that in 1840, not 5 minutes ago like how long most these immigrants have lived in New Zealand. Mr Seymour trying to get the votes by giving these things to non New Zealanders. If the prime minister doesn’t watch out immigrants will out number pakeha population aswell lol. Then use New Zealand as a loop hole to get into Australia and make it harder for actual New Zealanders wanting to make the Aussie move. Maori or pakeha don’t get benefits in these countries where most of these immigrants come from, to be honest no one wants to go there at all.

  • @Arms26
    @Arms26 Před měsícem +11

    Winston is part of a generation of maori who were shamed about being maori, a generation that was forced to forget themselves, forget who they are, forget where they came from, forget their language, forget their culture, forget their heritage, forget everything and assimilate into European society because only European society has a future, which is Ironic because European society is the old world. The British Empire is no longer the world superpower it was back in the 1800's and early 1900's. Maori have gone from being scared of who they are, we've gone from shamed and quiet, to now embracing our culture, embracing our Reo, embracing WHO WE ARE. The problem is, we now have to get the Government to see Maori as equals. Clearly we are still a long way from being equal. NZ is STILL a racist nation.

    • @trevorauld1039
      @trevorauld1039 Před měsícem +1

      Yep, a racist nation. Maori and PI scholarships, separate sports teams, separate schools, separate criteria for universities, certainly are racist. White people wrote the Maori language. Yep racist all right.

    • @Sarah-ne6cv
      @Sarah-ne6cv Před měsícem +8

      If this government doesn't see Maori as equals, why are there so many in cabinet? Are these Maori not the right sort of Maori? that sounds a bit racist to me.

    • @zrymill
      @zrymill Před měsícem +3

      People get to choose who they are. Doesn't have much to do with blood line, unless you think it does.

    • @karlharrison2449
      @karlharrison2449 Před měsícem

      you and people like you are the problem, always claiming victim hood, promoting hate speech and separatism.

    • @SailingAwayNZ
      @SailingAwayNZ Před měsícem +3

      1 in 4 MP's are Māori, 1 in 5 New Zealanders are Māori. The new divisive resent reinterpretation of the treaty as a partnership and co-governance that labour supported for 6 years is what has caused the issue. with MMP and democracy Māori have an equal stand point. The new racism isn't coming from the Europeans. "Clearly we are still a long way from being equal" sadly Māori activist promote this view. The Māori party got 3% of the vote 150,000 people that is 800,000 Māori that don't support them. 33 MP's are representing Māori in parliament

  • @susanfergusson9773
    @susanfergusson9773 Před 28 dny

    Another trougher

  • @fizzpopbangcrack
    @fizzpopbangcrack Před měsícem +2

    Why don't we ever bring up the fact that the written Māori language uses the Latin alphabet?
    Written Māori has such a colonial influence its not funny?
    I'm all for Māori culture and rights.. But is Te Reo explicitly Māori culture? I feel like its a Hybrid of both Pakeha and Māori culture. - Not to say it is any less important for that reason. Its quite nice that we have a shared language.
    This refers to written Te Reo specifically. Traditional Māori, if that exists still? Spoken by mouth, not written in Latin script is obviously something I think should be preserved. Not so much this colonized form.
    Maybe im just clutching at straws though🤣

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 Před měsícem +1

      Our written Maori language is in our carvings and tattoos. We made a new language, because you do not read it.

  • @richardvesey1909
    @richardvesey1909 Před měsícem +3

    one people , one country , unity in Diversity , Tuku is pushing the Victimization on to the youth of Aotearoa , he has no choice , This is garbage , Racism is a mind set .

  • @Alex-it5ej
    @Alex-it5ej Před měsícem +15

    Instead of taking aim at the goverment to enforce te reo on the masses, how about you push it on Maori first. Only 25% of Maori speak te reo fluently. Pakeha simply will not take te reo seriously unless Maori do. Blaming the government is a cope out

    • @michaelhowell8412
      @michaelhowell8412 Před měsícem +7

      Te Reo classes in my area are full, someone must be keen on learning it?

    • @glenpiggott5815
      @glenpiggott5815 Před měsícem

      ​@@michaelhowell8412woke white people are filling those classes.....

    • @robbietoka4158
      @robbietoka4158 Před měsícem +3

      The early government enforce Te Reo Maori to stop.. It's only right for government to take responsibility and restore Te Reo Maori.

    • @richardbruce8111
      @richardbruce8111 Před měsícem +3

      ​ Te Reo like most tribal languages is simply not adequate to describe technical ideas (like science & complex reasoning try describing microwave repairs) As the use of language affects personal stuff Maori is great in poetry & song! Most evident in Haka ...pretty rousing eh! BUT we all need to get along! so lets have more gentle stuff too ...when did you last hear a Maori love song? ....ISA LEI coming over the water is one of my life memories! (its fijian I think)... Road signs in dual lingo B....off!

    • @robbietoka4158
      @robbietoka4158 Před měsícem +1

      @@richardbruce8111 to simply say it's not adequate to speak Te Reo really shows how shallow people's mind set's are!.. because Te Reo Maori was evolving, there was no hand break. It was a narrative that was oppress by the oppressor that Te Reo was not adequate.

  • @magamike1800
    @magamike1800 Před měsícem +1

    Most languages spoken today will disappear over the next 100 years. Maori can save their own language, but even they dont want too.

  • @tonygee3284
    @tonygee3284 Před 27 dny

    I don't want to speak mari
    Because it not something I want to speak
    Chinese Italian French etc. are a living language
    Mari language will be gone for ever

  • @SoBlissedOut
    @SoBlissedOut Před měsícem

    He communicates Māori water rights well here. I think there’s been a major failure in the dialogue around this.

  • @giltee626
    @giltee626 Před měsícem +2

    What a load of. This is just a load of bs. No one will stop maori (part) from learning te Reo. I don’t want to learn it, don’t want it forced down my throat and for me it’s a waste of time. He talks of real maori, there are none as most have less than 50% maori ancestry. There is no partnership in the treaty. It states clearly maori ceded sovereignty to the crown and would be treated equally

    • @t00t27
      @t00t27 Před měsícem

      Why would we seed sovereignty to the crown? Give up our rights just so we can be second class citizens?

  • @vaughanb5344
    @vaughanb5344 Před měsícem +11

    Maybe Te reo would be more accepted if its not forced down our throat, cant speak it, don't wanna speak it, stop changing small town names to something no one can prononce. They added an "H to my city to make it pronounced Fonganui not Wanganui....keep maori language for maori, leave us out of it. If anybody wants to learn it, there are many courses and over funded universities that will teach you. They are proud to be maori, let me be proud not to be.

    • @kjmax1068
      @kjmax1068 Před měsícem +4

      Just learn pronunciation of the vowels and you should be right. I am pakeha but I respect the correct pronunciation of the names. It is out of respect.

    • @kimnzg8195
      @kimnzg8195 Před měsícem +2

      "leave us out of it" speak for yourself! Not all pakeha feel this way.

    • @str8gary
      @str8gary Před měsícem +2

      Well at least you are open in your hostility and ignorance toward Māori - sunlight being the best disinfectant and all. I wonder if you would express that in real life to another human that happens to be Māori. Is the revival of a language really so threatening? More young people today are embracing te reo, and New Zealand is better for it.

    • @dandelion3391
      @dandelion3391 Před měsícem

      You thinking universities are overfunded tells me everything I need to know about you. Gross ignorance

    • @t00t27
      @t00t27 Před měsícem

      Cause it’s the native names idiot, not named after some European who probably never stepped foot in the country, I don’t go to England and name a random street “Kā Māori huarahi” Just learn how to speak instead of whining

  • @richardvesey1909
    @richardvesey1909 Před měsícem

    Tuku , You are well past you used by date .

  • @briansatchell2319
    @briansatchell2319 Před měsícem +16

    Old * Underpants Morgan * ((remember that. used company credit card to buy Flashy Underpants ). Another grifter. Only there for Himself. Esponer. Another woke interveiwer

    • @user-vm1yn2od3d
      @user-vm1yn2od3d Před měsícem +1

      I buy mine undies brand new from coin save for $4:50 each doe's the job

    • @briansatchell2319
      @briansatchell2319 Před měsícem +2

      His were like 75 buks from memory

    • @davidprosser7278
      @davidprosser7278 Před měsícem

      @@briansatchell2319 $90, and the suits were $3000.

    • @michelebourke4340
      @michelebourke4340 Před měsícem +4

      you focus on a few prs of undies, meanwhile there are still, today, large numbers of maori who are forbidden to live on land they OWN, worth billions, under documented govt theft disguised as Law because of the "in perpertuity lease" arrangements from nearly 100 yrs ago.

    • @ladyjusticewarriorqueenz2005
      @ladyjusticewarriorqueenz2005 Před měsícem

      I agree he's a Crooked Uncle all about fattening himself. He's corrupt like ALL Tainui. Nanaia mahuta Tuhetia Paki - they are Chinese partners nowdays. Arrest them all!