Behind the Scenes at Knotts Berry Farm Railroad
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- Todays movie Knott only answers the question "can you name seven kinds of berries?", it tells the amazing story of Knott's Berry Farm and the Ghost Town Railroad. Walter Knott loved screwing around to such an extent, he built his own Ghost Town on his farm. Yes, yes, it was part of his restaurant and tearoom, to entertain people waiting in line, and yes to separate them from a few unneeded coins in the process, but heck, the real goal was to build something fun. Before undertaking the ghost town, he built a "volcano" that erupted on command with a little "devil" running the controls. So, proof, screwing around first and foremost!
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I'm so happy and proud to say that I actually drive that steam locomotive 😏 engine 41 💙💛
+camille islas SO COOL!! I'm also So happy to see women running and modeling trains. Cool's cool, and that's that.
+Toy Man Television will you be visiting knotts anytime soon :)?
Sure plan on it!!! Not sure when, but we are from Ojai (now in Utah) and get down there often. And heck, it's Knott's!
camille islas ma'am I hate to ask this but I must know, how can one get a job as the train engineer?
VELOCITYPON3 just apply or transfer in park. ^_^
Fantastic. History is still on the move.
i work at knotts & i really enjoyed learning about all the trains there. always love learning new things about the park. great video!
My father, Samuel James Coughran, leased, then later sold, part of his farm to Walter and Cordilla Knott to use as a farm. Walter bought some cuttings or plants from fellow Orange County resident, Rudolph Boysen and started growing them. They opened a berry stand which grew into Knott's Berry Place, and later Knott's Berry Farm. My (future) mom worked for Cordillia in the chicken restaurant in the 1930s. The land was originally bought by my grandfather, William Henry Coughran around 1904 (not really sure of the year).
Tom - Vista, CA
I think that's William in the log ride with Walter.
Toy Man Television
A little late on this, but Grandpa had passed away well before the park came to be. The log ride and other rides "happened" in the 1960s. Some of the buildings are copies of buildings from Calico, CA (once owned by Walter). Calico Ghost Town became quite an attraction in the 1970s. When I visited it, it was only partially restored and the streets were still dirt, or mud, depending on the season.
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I was at Calico shooting photos and video years ago, no idea why, seem like a thing to get. It was 125 that day!! I baked. But it was cool, and had Walter written all over it. I like the bottle house a lot. Walking up there in that heat was a trip!! Went into one of the little shops to cool off. felt so nice!!! The lady there was baking. I said it was nice in her shop, it was 103 in there!!!! But I felt great.
It's great to see this still operating. I visited it on a trip to the States back in 1981.
Its GREAT!!!!!
I like any kind of railroads and especially Knotts! Great video, Thanks
This railroad is a treasure. Early knotts is fun. But the railroad......
Hey guys did you know that the station for the Ghost Town & Calico Railroad is a Pacific Electric Station. It served as a passenger station along the Santa Ana Line in Hansen
Great work! I need to head out there!
Knott's Berry Farm is one of those places I'd really like to visit! And yes, because of the Colorado narrow gauge! And probably for a few of the rides to...
That's really interesting about how the park came about! I had no idea about that and it's a fascinating history! Thanks for sharing that and the narrow gauge!
Another enjoyable and informative video. Thanks.
i love your channel so much because there are SOOOO many types of trains and things to do with trains!
Thanks berry much for sharing. Great narrow gauge locomotives and cars. I hope to visit Knotts Berry Farm someday soon.
Ask to see the Ed Roth Museum. Sometimes you can get in. Amazing....
Yeah, sorry, I saw your video of the #5 you rode after I watched this one! Thanks! I didn’t know they had one at Knotts. Grew up in Dolores and my family worked on the railroad and actually was crew on the #5!
I found this video to be fascinating! great stuff, sir!!
I love history. Fun history at least.
Definitely not boring! Great vid.
Great and informative video. Thank you so much.
They have a rat Fink museums there! And Roth worked there for a couple of years and use science for Knottsberry farm. And later they took all of his science and put them in a gallery as part of the employees only space. Boy would we like to see that! We are real rat fink fans
Great video!
I went with some girls from my 2nd grade class for a birthday party around 1952 I knew when you went on the train ride there was a robbery, but I thought it was for real. And I was quite anxious about going on the train. As an aside, my daughter worked at a tourist gold mine in CO and lived in a Galloping Goose!
Cooool!!!
Great Video. I have never been there, but I will have to go now, I Didn't know They Even had Trains ! Very nice collection. Including a Galloping Goose !
I remember when I was a kid, the locomotive pulled two coaches, a flatcar (so that passengers could sit outside), and a caboose. One thing I deeply regret was this story: I was a kid who loves locomotives and I always liked it whenever they stopped the locomotive. So I noticed that the flatcar had a handbrake on the side. At the time, I didn’t think straight and I thought it was just a prop or something, so I pulled the handbrake and it was ACTUALLY slowing the train down, so I pulled it back the other way and the train started to move faster. The engineers had no idea what was happening and were inspecting the train after the ride ended. Never am I ever going to forget that.
Big Sai45 Productions wow!!! Yup it works!! All 100% authentic
Hey, thanks for the history lesson on the Knotts Berry Farm Railroad, quit interesting really! Watch out for those Dingleberries lol
You got some good videos man!
I remember as a kid riding that train at Knotts Berry at least twice way back in '72! Oh, those days will come again...but not for me:-(
you should check out the 2 footers in Maine if you ever up this way.
john doe bucket list fer sure. We built a modular railroad of the SR and RR years ago. Check out our video on the o scale guys.czcams.com/video/fo3t_5-Hwo4/video.html
The first 11 yrs of my life was spent living in Garden Grove and back then Knott's was free and I remember it well
They have an Ed Roth museum which is not open to the public. Ed worked there for a while as a sign painter after putting all his money up his nose. Sad... But he became a Mormon and moved on with his life. Have you seen the Ed Roth shows here on the channel?
Never heard of Ed Roth before
We have several shows on the channel. Check out czcams.com/video/Ql6I_maXIsY/video.html
Knott's Berry Farm is one of the FEW things I miss about California.
Do you know there is an Ed Roth Rat Fink museum there? Closed to the public just for employees. Ed was a sign painter there.
One locomotive that knotts berry farm used to operate that they no longer have is D&RGW K-27 #464 now at the Huckleberry Railroad in Flint, MI
In reguards to the Galloping Geese, "10 or so" = 7 :)
Up in Idaho, at Silverwood Theme Park, they have a narrow gauge porter locomotive, a 2-6-2 I believe.
She just runs along the track around and through the woods, but the engine itself is beautiful.
She has a sleek black paint job along with red stripes around her boiler.
She's over 115 years old, but she looks brand new.
I like this model train
The porter 2-4-0 at 9:23 is actually a locomotive from the Cedar point & Lake Erie railroad, another amusement park railroad. The locomotives name is Jennie K.
I've heard they sold it. Sad....
Its a Forney, not a Porter. and where has the engine gone now?
Otaku Railfan I was really hoping to see the old Jennie operating. Grew up seeing it sitting behind the shop at C.P.
It’s cute maybe they will restore it at ceder point
Come to think of it, if you like narrow gauge stuff and you ever get a chance to get out on the East Coast, a place I worked at in NJ may interest you. Pine Creek Railroad in Farmingdale, Nj is a nice little place with a neat story and some cool equipment. Quite a variety too.
nice article. One thing that you did not mention was that Walter bought a much larger locomotive D&RGW # 464 a K-27 class Mikado in the 1970's. The problem is it did not come with an owners manual indicating the minimum track curve radius it could handle. Because of its larger size, The first run around the Knott's loop of track, it derailed, again and again. The #464 was sold to a tourist train railroad in Michigan called the Huckleberry railroad in 1981.
They eventually were able to use 464 without derailing at Knott's Berry Farm. I believe it was the lead pony truck that was the issue and they modified it somehow to work. The engine was too heavy and hard on the track and frankly, overkill for their operation.
9:33 correction, this locomotive was KNOTT a Knott's original locomotive. (hehe, get it knott, not) It's owned (and still is) by Cedar Fair and once ran on the Cedar Point and Lake Erie railroad in Sandusky, Ohio and was known as the 'Jennie K.' Cedar fair actually owns knotts now, and the Jennie K. was relocated to Knott's for a time. However, that engine has sense been sold and relocated to garner holt's private warehouse. (garner holt is the company that provides animatronics to cedar fair.)
I plan to eventually to a big railroad tour of the west going through all of the historic railroads including Knotts berry farm, Nevada Northern, and also take a ride on some of the U,P excursion trains behind 4014 or 844.
Do it as soon as this damn pandemic is fixed.
I used to buy a case of mixed Knotts berry's jam every year. We have mulberries around here. Eventually, I got tired of all that jam and the amount bread I had to eat in order to consume it. We used to make these 10" round biscuits for Jam Day.
We rarely made it over there. But I loved to ride the California Street cable car and buy a pot of jam! Any flavor.
Now, I have a greater respect in Knotts Berry Farm.
It’s really a great story.
Nice little railroad. You should visit Dollywood. They have a railroad up there with 2 operating steam locos. They have 4 locos in total.
Wanted to give an update on the Jennie K: it was sold at the Knott's auction to Garner Holt of Garner Holt Productions, who apparently is restoring it to operating condition.
Wonder where they are doing that?
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I love steam!!! And the early ones really are COOL.And ANYTHING narrow gauge. Long live steam!
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9:29 That locomotive is called jennis k, Sent to knotts Berry farm from Cedar Point in order to be restored to run again, dude due to certain events at the park the locomotive never made. It back home, and was put up for auction,. There was an attempt to. Purchase the locomotive to bring home however they got outbid by a man who worked in the Disneyland animatronic industry,. He planned on restoring it for his Private railroad, but he only gave it a cosmetic restoration and now the locomotive is sitting in a Disney warehouse, In pretty much the exact same condition it sits in this video, the only thing different is. It has a fancy paint scheme slapped onto it to cover up the primer
Tomatoes, grapes, cucumber, eggplant, bananas.... ;)
That was a great episode as usual! Do you think you'll be talking more about Knotts Berry Farm in the future? Preferably on the Timber Mountain Log Ride and the Calico Mine Ride? Especially the latter when it comes out of refurbishment.
Yes!! And the "real" Calico ghost town by Barstow. The Knotts "restored that, as an "away" Ghost Town, and It's great! And Hot. Last time I was there it was 125. I went into a little shop and it was so cool inside. But the woman was dyeing of the heat. I commented how cool it was in there, and she pointed at the thermostat that said 103. But coming in from 125 it felt GREAT.
High Toy Man and Karan, Hey I live back here in the sticks of Southwest Missouri and Northwestern Arkansas, we have some local train action here in the area, (Arkansas & Missouri RR in Springdale and the Eureka Springs & North Arkansas RR) . The A&M is a least short line that runs from my home town of Monett, Mo. to the City of Fort Smith, Ar. about a 150 plus or minus a few miles run; they haul mostly sand and small light freight. It is quite a climb in elevation from these two towns. They are also a tourist railroad; they are all diesel and mostly Alco C-420's, although they have in the last couple of years added some larger loco's I think SD-40? Not sure. The other RR is a tourist RR only, it was a branch line from the Frisco RR to a resort town of Eureka Springs, Ar. it has healing spring waters; it now is a tourist town. This railroad was restored back in the late 1970's and was a standard gauge steam tourist railroad. I think its all but shut down now but, most of the rolling stock and loco's are still there. If you never been to this area you folks should come visit. And we have a Berry here you've probably never herd of or eaten, most people doesn't know it exist; even people from here. Its called Elderberry, we go out ad pick them when their ripe and make home made jelly, yummy; they also make wine out of them, double yummy. You folks are great, keep up the good work, hope to meet you folks one day.
Elderberry!! Arsenic and Old Lace!! Love that old film, two ladies poisoning old men with elderberry wine!!! Funny!!! We have them in Utah. Two kinds too. THe kind you make into jam and the two guys on the porch who want you to join the Mormon church. Elder Berry and Elder Younger. Sounds like some fun trains there. Shame shame the Eureka is not running.
I was hoping you'd say Chuck Berry !!!
I went to Knott's Berry Farm once.
But you didn't talk about the Grand Sierra Scenic Rail Road in Camp Snoopy. 2ft gauge that used to have a much bigger loop than it does now but still a nice little ride.
Ya know, I've never checked that out. Hum... excuse to go back!!!!
I'm starting to find myself saying "I'm not sure how you found this movie, I sure hope didn't find it boring" along with you at the end of each video!
+James Paterson COOL
My grammar, not so cool haha.
What's grammar? Like a small country in Asia?
Haha love your humor!
I remember the Volcano
Fun and knott goofy.
@@ToyManTelevision At the time my family lived in Garden Grove and we went all the time.
one of the best jobs i ever had was a conductor at the farm
COOL!!!!!!! Our friend "Big Daddy" Roth worked there for a few years as a sign painter. Hope to put up an interview I taped with him 25 years ago. The have a "museum" of his signs in the back area. Planning a show on that!!
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9:22 that is cedar point's (a sister park to knotts in Ohio) Jennie K
She was sent there for a rebuild to operation but the man in charge of operations at the parks got fired and the new guy decided to not let knotts to heavy work anymore and he also decided to auction Jennie off
Crews from cedar point bid on her and tried desperately to bring her home but they lost to an ex Disney guy who said he was going to use it for his "backyard railroad" which has yet to show ANY progress as the engine sits with new paint and a headlight in his shed.
Today Jennies headlight is now on the G.A Boeckling at cedar point and her marker lights on display in the shops.
But Jennie was never bought by the man who owned Knotts it was a cedar point engine that ran there but needed a rebuild so it was sent to Knotts
Engine 41...? LITTLE???? I can hardly imagine a larger engine than 41! O_O
Someday, if I ever own a theme park, I want an engine like 41. :D
They used to have fake cowboy train robberies on those trains at knots berry farm. I have boysonberry plants in my garden that are supposedly from knots berry farm plants.
I forgot about "The Galloping Goose". Most fun job I've ever had.
Just got back from an awesome trip to Knott's (Scary Farm was amazing, this year). I have to ask how you were able to gain access to the behind the scenes/all access tour? That would be exciting to see that train shop, etc!
This was set up by the Narrow Gauge Convention. But I have been able to get in before. Hard to wade through the corporate people, but if you can find the guys that run the railroad, they are great. Sort of a maze to get through. I have just asked any of the train crew and they will give an email. Not sure these days who the contact would be.
Toy Man Television Thank you sir, I'll try to do that during my next visit
You can try to enter the management maze and get to the right person. Make up a story, like you have a school group or something.
Being a Locomotive Engineer myself, I enquired about employment as an engineer for Knotts on the steam engine, from my understanding the engineers are subcontracted and are steam boiler certified engineers and the conductors are just ordinary amusement park employees. I asked one of the conductors on how I can contact the company that supplies the engineers and didn't get a straight answer, I don't think he had any clue or just didn't want to supply the information. One thing on my bucket list is to Engineer a steam engine and get away from the boring modern stuff. great video series you have, thanks for sharing.
kind regards!
Eric Dee.
The locomotive fireman and engineers are not subcontracted anymore. They are park empolyees under the maintenance department which runs the railroad. The conductors, bandits, etc are under a different park department like entertainment etc... The railroad used to have its own department so it could directly hire its own employees. Sadly this is no longer the case... Park management sees locomotive fireman and engineers as equivalents to an employee working a kiddy ride for minimum wage.
U cool toy man I love your videos
Love Knotts. They have a Rat Fink Museum, not open to the public... Want to see that!!
Toy Man Television that would be cool to see
Ken Berry ( Mammas Family show , F-troop )
Loganberry. Invented by Dr. James Logan in Santa Cruz, 1890’s.
that's a good one.. I wonder if it makes a good brandy..
Marionberry... actually developed by Knott if I recall correctly.
Knott a berry, more of a nut.
How exactly do you get a behind the scenes tour, is it like a ticket or something?
It's a swamp. If you are local and are already going there talk to the crews. And ask for names. If you call the PR people be ready to get passed around. lots of people have the power to say no. AND you need to tell them you are a group or club. That you want to bring 30 people. The trick is you really need to be a group. Or media. They need to see there is a benefit to them. Really hard to find the people who can say yes. But just dive in. Great people. Much easier than disneyland. OH! And ask to see the Ed Roth museum! We are STILL trying to see that!!
OK thanks for the info! I plan to head there around december
Types of "berries" I can think of off the top of my head: boysenberries, blackberries, raspberries, blueberries, marionberries, loganberries, huckleberries, gooseberries, cranberries, strawberries....that's all I can think of. lol
Kasatka Tilikum Strawberries aren't actually a berry, theyre flowers, bananas are however a type of berries
I was mostly naming fruits with "berry" in their names. Watermelons, avocados, and tomatoes are berries too!
The 3 foot gauge Steam Engine, 2-4-0 name Jennie K. at 9:23 is actually owned by Cedar Point & Lake Erie Railroad. Note: Guest don't have to travel far to experience one of the 11 Cedar Fair parks. We've spread your favorite stomach-dropping thrills across the country. I hope you come, & visit us today! Cedar Point, & Lake Erie Railroad. Known as, The Roller Coaster Capital!! Thank you! :-)
By the way, here is a photo of Jennie K.
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JPilot2 Is Knott's Berry Farm gonna run the locomotive you think once its rebuilt.
Come to mt pleasant iowa
would like a c19 version for narrow gauge
+Brenton Carter Available in all scales except TTn3. I think.
can you do a video on the dollywood train
Never been but if we get out there heck yea!! Really want to see that Train.
So, is this also 1:1 n3 scale like Gary, except more realistic than plywood in his backyard?
Yup!! Back when collecting real locomotives was a common hobby!
Hey, toy man...
The Southern California railroad museum in Perris Ca. has a Knott’s parking lot trolley and so much more.
They need just need some eyes looking there way. If you could help We are positive they would appreciate it.
Love the place. Did the show on Ward Kimball there. But it was closed. Just open fir the narrow gauge convention. Really need to get back. Shame we can’t ride the light rail. Museum is only open on weekends and train only runs on weekends
I think the Colorado railroad museum is where the goose and c 19 should be
I elect you the next Huell Howser, ok see you on pbs.
Send them a letter!!! Really! . Hum.. does anyone send letters any more..... And no one reads "spam" email. Guess we will just keep doing the show.
Yeah!... "California's Mold"
Better than Huel....
yes that the tops these old locomotives need saving
Sorry to report the Jennie K. (at 9:22) was auctioned off a few months ago without being restored.
SAD. I hope the new owners fix it up.
Pardon my language but narrow gauge looks cool as fuck!
Phuck ya it does!!!
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1972 Crown Metal Products: 3 ft (914 mm) gauge offerings featured three domes in the vein of engines such as the William Crooks and the Countess of Dufferin.
Crown Metal Products was a manufacturer of steam locomotives based in Wyano, Pennsylvania founded by Ken Williams in 1959. The company produced steam locomotives and carriages of various sizes for amusement park railroads. The firm ceased production in 1989, however, many of the engines produced continue to operate at amusement parks across the country.
Worlds of Fun is a 235-acre amusement park in Kansas City, Missouri, United States. The park opened in 1973 and is owned and operated by Cedar Fair, which purchased the park from Hunt-Midwest in 1995. Admission to Worlds of Fun includes access to Oceans of Fun, a water park adjacent to the amusement park.
The when I went the 340 was running and the employees said the it was running funky
340 always had a bad reputation for steaming poorly and being "fussy." She's a completely different animal than 41.
toottootxxxlocomotivesniperxxtoottoot she is the first c19 Locomotive ever made so maybe that’s why she’s got so many kinks
I can say she sure dose have a personality to her.. shes really tricky to fire right.
So there are three engines that run and one is put in display now let me tell them all there's Denver & Rio Grande western # 340 then there is Rio Grande southern # 41 then the portal steam engine in display today and finally the galloping geese # 3 so these are the trains that run.
Yup....
There's the 2 foot gauge tank engine on display in Ghost Town. That engine never ran at Knott's Berry Farm and was acquired purely as a aesthetic decoration. The Galloping Goose #3 is not technically a locomotive but a self propelled "motor." There's also the Grand Serra #83 in Camp Snoopy but that is not a historical steam locomotive but rather a live steamer built for an amusement park.
There were 7 total geese built. Knotts has the only one that left colorado
Yup. I suppose the one scrapped also left. It’s been recreated but gone.
Have you seen Henry Doorly zoo Omaha Nebraska they have railroad.
Bee fun. Or be. Not bea
Dango berries
Thanks for the video! We have a Goose in Dolores co as well! If you get a chance you should check it out!
Yup!! We are members of that group. Goose 5!! Our favorite goose.
Berry me Knott?
Nice........
What of your native Cranberry?
Yup! The boysenberry is the one that put Knots on the map. We found one surviving “bush” by the locomotive shop.
Chuck Berry you forgot that one !
Hum.... YUP!!!! And one of my favorite Berries.
Knots berry farm's railroad is better then the Disneyland railroad
Theres also elderberries
Elder Berry. His dad was chuck.
is that a Utah temp tag on your back window???
Yup. Looooooong story When I moved to Utah my title on this car got lost in Ford's computer hell for almost a year. So I kept it registered in Cal but insured in Utah, SO Cal issued a BENCH WARRANT for lack of insurance. Well the Narrow Gauge Convention was in Pasadena, and I was not going to let a little thing like a possible arrest get in the way of screwing around. But it seems that having Ford loose your title is almost as bad as colluding with Russia. So I went to the Utah DMV and explained the problem, and they said they would issue a 6 month temp tag until Ford got their stuff together and sent me a title. Long story right??? And mostly true. I made up the part about Russia.
oh really? Where in Utah do you live? I moved to Utah from so cal in1995
We are in SLC. Was in Ojai, moved here in 2011.
I grew up here, and always planned to retire here.
cool I live in Ogden, really cool videos btw
Chuck Berry...
Go to the east broad top railroad
Want to. Has it reopened yet?
LINGONBERRIES, FUCKO!
black berries razz berries cloud berries blue berries Salmon Berries Huckle berries Goose Berries marion berries boisen berries and bananas (yes bananas are berries and straw berries are not)
ha, i remember the volcano, the devil guy i remember well in 70's and 80's, it was cool and weird at same time.wow, thanks, forgot about this, think they took it out now?....booooo,. they change much more of old knotts, it will lose it's charm.
Shame to see the fun old stuff leaving. Hope the devil is stashed somewhere....
Huckleberries
Ain't nothing but a hound dog....
Can’t watch, horrible frame rate
I like 24. I’ve always used it.
I used to work on that railroad from June to October of 2022 and I really enjoyed working with the locomotive. I honestly miss it
Very cool!