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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
- The brand new Orange OR30 is only a measly 30 watts: That can't possibly be loud enough.... or can it? Let's break out the loudness meter and see just what this thing can unleash! Check out all the details at Orange amps: orangeamps.com...
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Here's the story behind that awesome, one of a kind Flying V: czcams.com/video/VOvsLD-xrMk/video.html
Have you done a video on that Traynor amp? and also in the words of Ola "will It Chug" ? lol
I've got an Orange tiny terror and through my blackstar 4x10 cab it is house shakingly loud!
I'ts too Black Sabbath-ish. The distortion is more of a fuzz tone and its just not pleasing to the ears of some.
I had to turn the volume down on my headphones. Point was made.
You have crappy headphones
CZcams audio is compressed to probably -14 lufs or something, you’re only hearing the difference between Glenn’s voice and the guitar volume, which he could make that anything
Gleeeenn! Your amp reviews are top notch! You touch on some stoner/doom stuff that I love and you cover the EXACT amount of cleans that I care about 😉
Glad appreciate it! :)
I'm so glad that you are making this video and covering sensitivity. My dad was a Radio and Hi-Fi engineer back in the 70's and he passed on the info to me about sensitivity.
My main amp for many years was an HH VS Musician which had 2 Celestion Gold Backs with sensitivity of 100db. I later fitted a Vox Blueback into one of the cavities because one of the Gold Backs got a Zippo lighter thrown through it from the crowd (hey, free Zippo though) and the Vox is also 100db. That amp is so clean all the way to the top and louder than a loud thing on national loud day.
What impresses me the most is how good these Mojotones sound, especially considering the price.
I have a rockerverb mk3 and that amp is crazy loud and it does everything from funk to 8 string drop Q× tuning it sounds amazing no matter what way its set
You're not kidding about wattage and volume not being the same thing! I learned this when I use to bring my Orange Micro Terror to a rehearsal studio and plugged it in to a Marshall 1960 4x12. 20 watts of Class D power sure, but holy crap was it loud!!! My drummer actually told me to turn DOWN!! And I love "grimey" clean tones, not spanky pristine, and that OR30 sounded great to me!!
One of my favourite high gain guitar tones was from the Orange OR15 with an MXR 10 band EQ in the FX loop to shape and tighten up the amp. It ripped for metal. This new OR30 might also give you more than stoner tones. Don't sleep on an EQ in the FX loop.
Absolutely love the OR series... (superior to the crush power section too imo) I still feel like Orange are way more versatile than people give them credit for as well. Even 15W can be super loud... also, side note: power transformers get overlooked a lot also! (almost completely) If you know, you know! I don't even think I've even seen someone do a video on it... ;)
I'm pretty sure CSGuitars has a video on transformers. At least I remember he has talked about them in some video.
what do power transformers do?
@@-jank-willson I asked Google
@@stevec9972 so what did it say?
@@-jank-willson converts high to low voltage or current
I got the OR15 recently and it is easily loud enough to keep up with a band.
I love Orange amps, they do have a unique sound which I love.
Plenty loud considering you wanna keep the gain and master at around 7 to start getting those tubes chugging!
Lol 1 watt can knock your socks off 😂. It's hilarious how people think they need 100 watts to play in their living room.
@@beefnacos6258 agreed, but most of the good amps tend to only come in bigger wattages though.
Man that Demo at the end screams Rush. Hints of La Villa Strangiato and YYZ. Dig it!
That last mix you did gives me the impression that not only will it get classic rock in the sense of 'vintage' , but it seems that Alex Lifeson and Geddy Lee would have appreciated this little gem, certainly in their earlier years of recording. This just might be my next buy. Gotta go schlep a couple of axes to a store and have a listen. Thank you for this!!!
Ordered one for myself. Will be here Monday. Cant wait to try it out 1st hand. Excellent demo.
I've wanted the OR15 for a while. That's plenty of power for anywhere you're gonna play. They can always throw a mic on it
I've had one for 12 years and will never sell it. I think it's the best amp orange makes for the money. throw an eq in the loop and you can get fenderish cleans, marshall like territory and of course many flavors of orange, but plugged straight in you get one of the best rock tones out there.
I ended up going with a Marshall Origin 20 because of how crisp it still sounded with attenuation. I think when I picked it up, it was half the price of what they are selling for now. It has all the Plexi sound you dream of and an fx loop.
I had an OR 15 years ago and still kind of regret selling it. I got a Super Crush 100 for a hell of a deal earlier this year and love it
I've got one. I love it.
Orange are very underrated as a company! They have a certain sound to them that's heavy and also not at the same time. such a great rock sound that totally works well for some sorts of metal sounds even outside of stoner/doom/sludge kinda stuff - it just works so well there. They don't really break the bank usually either (well compared to engl and other high end amp companies).
Orange is great for blues. All my amps are Orange.
I picked up an OR15 used for around ~$450 and i've played it exponentially more than my 5150 block letter and my Framus Cobra. Sounds amazing with and without pedals in front of it. 10 out of 10 would recommend.
Or15s are amazing. I only sold mine to get the 30 because of the 2w setting and not having to run it through the Captor. Slightly less clutter.
Hey Glen love your show and I think you are very well positioned to decode something that at least to me carries a lot of vagueness and ambiguity.
I came across Dream Theater's guitar player John Petrucci coments about Tube Amps v. Amp modelers he said "The biggest challenge for the digital products is not the tone, not the things like gain and overdrive, it's how the amplifier physically pushes air through the speaker, it's the feel thing."
As far as I understand the speakers push the air because they receive a signal and the processing of the signal puts everything in motion. As the cone moves, it pushes and pulls the surrounding air; by doing so it creates pressure waves in the air, called sound...😮
I think the only other thing in my house that can push air, other than the speakers, is my ceiling fan.
Any way...My questions are as follows
1.What is the feel thing?
2. How can we measure it?
Thanks Glen from Glendale CA
Great vid as always Glenn, I really look forward to and value your input over anyone else's in the community. You really keep it real. Amp wattage vs loudness is super interesting and something I will hardly understand. My 50 watt mesa on an egnater 4x12 slant with 4 V30's is SO MUCH louder than my 100 watt B52 hooked through my randall with 4 V30s. I have no idea why :D
Ryan at 60 cycle hum also just tried this one, too. For "surf music." Sounded great. BTW, I've been wearing earplugs to concerts since the early 1990's. I'm turning 60 this year, and I can still hear the music I play. A lot of my friends now have to use hearing aids because they chose not to wear ear protection because it wasn't cool. Be smart, kids. Use protection.
I'm a bassist. All of my bands started taking off...I invested in in ear monitors and I love coming home without my ears ringing more than they already do. Wish I had done it years ago.
Man those orange amps are great! Dude this flying v is really awesome! The top is amazing, tone is very cool too!
The amp, in conjunction with the mojotone speakers & AA mics really deliver the goods!
For years I’ve been using a TH30 for everything. It’s loud enough for jamming, has varying output volume options which is perfect for gigging, and switches down to 5 watts, perfect for recording. The clean channel is a master volume clean channel, so cranked you can get great plexi sounds Dirty channel has more gain than yoh will ever need. Perfect amp in my opinion.
I really like the orange sound! And that little one is freaking loud and the guitar is gorgeous!
The different mic for the volume test made it sound like you provided us hearing protection as well.
Cool as hell riff @ 3:48! Thanks for turning me on to the band Stoner!🤘🏻
I bought my first Orange amp about a year and a half ago. The little OR15 head. I have a Mesa oversized vertical 2x12 with V30’s. I liked it so much that I bought a Rockerverb 50. It does everything and it does it well. My #1 favorite amp ever.
I use the Thuderverb 50! It rules!!
ive used a orange TH30 head live for years i love it! Im hoping to get this bad boy this year for my birthday
Thank You Glenn, that explains a lot !
Case is that I often wondered just HOW can my 3 watt Roland Microcube be so loud ?
I always thought that is was because of the speakers efficiancy, and then it turns out it's all about physics.
Happy to help!
I bought the OR15 for the studio but even that little thing is loud enough for most small gigs with a 2x12
Great video glen, especially the part of the speaker db output on a speaker & how it works !! Thanks 👍
Happy to help!
Not what I'm into personally but I will say to anyone who wants to buy one on the strength of this review: go for it because I bought the NUX mighty plug Pro on the strength of Glenn's review and haven't regretted it.
Had the or15 a few years back. One of my favorite pieces of gear of all time
I don't have a lot of experience with different amps, so I have been using wattage to measure how loud an amp is. The way I figure it, 150w will go over a drumkit. Busting out a decibel reader is a GREAT help. Please do that every time.
Yep watts are no indication of how loud and amp is I have a 1 watt Marshall dsl amp that plugged into a 2x12 loaded with celestion Redbacks will push out over 100db!! With that set up and a 10 watt amp it will be perceived as twice as loud. Back in the 60’s a 15 watt amp was big enough for most gigs and when girls got in to the habit of screaming at their favourite band it got upped to 30 watt’s which in today’s world 30 watts cranked will get you in trouble with most sound guys and local authorities.
Glenn,
Can you cover more on bass guitars and amps? I am lost on these new products. My equipment is close to 50 years old and I would like to save it for special occasions. I know Geddy Lee used Orange amps at the end of Rush days. But Geddy and Chris Squire turned me on to my Rickenbacker 4001. Thanks bro !
I love these raw rugged sounds. Definitely inspired more results
working at Ashdown amps for 6 years, the amount of times i had to explain sound is measured in decibels made my head spin!
I toured with a grindcore band playing a 15 watt tube Amp. You'll wear out your power tubes pretty quick cranking it that much, but it's PLENTY. Mesa made some KILLER high gain, low watt tube amps in the 90s that I have a soft spot for. If you can find a Mesa DC3 you'll be in for a shock.
Your editing skills are unmatched man great playing and tones!
Nobody does informative content for the little guy like you Glen. More videos like this please.
Sure thing!
Not wearing earplugs doesn't make you tough, it makes you deaf.
And if you can't heard the difference between these two things, it's too late.
Wut?!
Can you speak up? I'm too tough to hear you.
Those riffs are getting cleaner and cleaner!! Cheers from Mexico!
Ty!
Man, you just love “dreamer deceiver/deceiver”. I hear you play that riff more than any other. (That whole album is brilliant.)
I have an Orange AD30 (main amp) and Laney VC30. Both of them have played the exact same rooms as my 90s era 5150 head rated at 120W. They can all play any gig. Now that I'm old af, I haven't had a gig with the 5150 for a long time unfortunately, the other two get a spank every couple weeks.
I hate ear plugs and, being a singer also, I am really happy with the silicon, flexible plugs available now; those plugs you advertise work really well - I use them but forget the name. The custom made ones at the 'hearing store' always unseal when I move my jaw to sing/talk so no good for a live gig. I'd say, "Buy the ones advertised here 'cause they work for bands, singers and for concert attendees."
For volume as a guitarist: most preferred for me is a small cab (1- 12" or so) pointed away from me a bit when I'm at the mic, but angled up so I can step into the sound if I need to hear more but I'm not killing everyone or myself for all the regular stuff. SANS PLUGS.
BTW FUGLENN 😀.
Gleeenn! Awesome video man! very high quality as always I really like this format of video. That orange sounds great! in my ears orange has always have some special sound with overdriven, almost like a bit of Fuzz, thanks for the video!
Ya, Ade knocked it out of the park with this one. I have the Dark Terror and I love it.
Everyone, who owns a VOX AC30 knows, that with the correct speakers, 30W can be enough to wreck all the windows in the neighborhood. Maybe not enough, to keep up with a socker stadium full of screaming teenage girls, but when that's what you're doing, you'll use an IR-loader to go directly into the board anyway. It's not the time of the Beatles any more, who had to compete with that with just their amps on stage.
Even my 15W Orange Rocker 15 Terror with only a single Vintage 30 is much more than enough, to keep up with any drummer in the world. Last year I put it on a solid floor in my friends basement (a German house, no flimsy USA-building ;-) ), and it felt already like a small earthquake. The floor was shaking, and that wasn't just the air moving around my pants. My pants were already moving at roughly 50-60% of the master volume cranked. And yes, I was wearing hearing protection, of course.
These 117db are similar to the noise of a jackhammer, and noticeably louder, than a chain saw. The pain threshold is usually considered to be at around 120db. That's so loud, that your ears actually hurt, and 117db are not too far away from it. A big Stadium-Rock concert usually has around 110db in the center of the crowd. With 117db your amp/guitar is already louder than the whole of your favorite band, when you're in the middle of the crowd at their concert.
For all you young guys out there, who think, they're tough: absolutely never use a cranked OR30 without hearing protection! Really not! Not even, if you think, your ears are different. They aren't. Just wear hearing protection. Even the cheap foamy ones will be better, than nothing. If you don't, you might not be able to hear it any more for the rest of your life.
Thanks, Glen, for never getting tired to tell the kids over and over again. I wish, people would have told us so tirelessly, when we were young, stubborn, and stupid. As teenager you need a lot of reminders, before something even remotely reaches your brain.
VICIOUS V + Orange = HOT DAMN! Solid demo once again! Cheers
Orange Amps are so monstrous. The tone conjures up visions of gigantic, prehistoric monsters. It's a thick, lumbering sound. I love it.
So the weight of the amp comes down to how it's designed. The is an old-school class A design meaning those tubes are going full bore from the moment you turn it on. As a result you need a bigger transformer which adds weight. Is it archaic yes but that is how the original Orange amps were built in the 60s and 70s. So it's a nod to their roots and their aren't many amps like this left. The only other one I can think of off the top of my head is the Vox AC 30.
My band doesn't play metal but i tend to gravitate to it when practicing/noodling at home.
Just want to say your advice cuts across genres.
My group covers songs from the 60s thru to the modern day and I have the best tone in the group because of said advice. The other guitar player in my band is a guitar myth guy and after i pointed him your direction he has started to deconvert.
THANKS GLEN!
Thanks, I’m happy to help!
Mojotone BV25M and BV30H are definitely your best bet if you want to get the 60s vibe but also sound relevant in the age of Vintage 30.
I've not had many opportunities to hear the amp without a good few pedals infront of it - appreciate the review :)
Was waiting to see if we got the official glen stamp on this thing! I love my or 15, super crush 100, and jim root head! But this thing is a different animal!
I can’t believe how INSANELY LOUD it is!!
Can you teach us more about clean metal tones. With dark emotional picking patterns that lead up to dirty angry riffs. Like Alice In Chains or Staind. There’s a song called Home by Staind that’s a great example as well as I stay away by AIC. Rock that plucks at those heart strings. Xanadu by rush is one of my all time favorite examples of what I mean. Can you show us more about how to make a very cathartic and emotional rock album. Thanks so much man! New to the channel, about a couple months and you’ve helped me clear up a lot of things. Love your channel dude!
I tried an OR15 lunchbox amp last month. Had a 7 watt setting (for bedroom levels, LOL). I was almost asked to leave the store at seven watts. These things are LOUD…. And I want one.
After i got my Orange TH30 I realized how 30 watts is really all you need for great tone and volume at the same time.
A Katana head on the 0.5 watt setting played through a Harley Benton 2x12 is loud enough to make my ears ring if i crack gain and master volume.
A guitar isn't pushing low frequencies so it doesn't take a lot of power to get loud.
you sure aren't kidding about the hearing loss. I used to play at church for almost a decade and always had floor monitors and two huge speakers right behind the drums. and that was twice on sunday and then practices. eargasm ear plugs are the best.
I really suffer from tinnitus and hearing loss. and I'm only 41. So protect ur ears guys. cos tinnitus can make ya go crazy sometimes. plus the sound this Orange brings out is awesome. reminds me of some Priest .
It all got a bit Rush-y at the end!! Lovely.
Came from the short where you found the tone BUT DIDN'T LET US FUCKING HEAR IT!!!!!
Love ya Glen.
Hey Glen, seen as you got an Orange amp there, dyou think you may be able get your mitts on a Orange TH30, they sound awesome in other demos but I'd like to hear your take on it. Oh, and one last thing... WHERE'S THE MICK THOMPSON SPEAKER?!?!? ;)
Those OC mics sound massive!
Anyone that doesn't think 30 watts is loud has never played an ac30 cranked. Headroom not so much (compared to say an ac100 or super lead) but efficient volume yep. I want this more for the bigger sound of bigger power section on the or15 sound. I personally like 30-50 watts because it is the balance of power and headroom, not so much volume.
My high school bus drivers were this guy's twin, and a quiet, mountain sized retired Green Beret nicknamed 'Sarge'. Amusingly, they both played guitar, really well. Would've been cooler if they'd had Orange amps.
I've got a 20W Jet City combo with a 12" Eminence speaker and it's deafening past 12 o'clock. Shoutout to the Derringers employee who talked me out of the Marshall Code 50.
Wow, you sure dodged a bullet!
Hey Glenn, man it’s nice to hear someone talk about music AND TELL THE FUCKING TRUTH!
That V guitar looks BADASS!
Glenn spitting facts about volume; fuck, I wish this stuff was more commonly known.
I wish it had two channels, I'd love to switch between that classic rock sound and that all out doom sound.
ive been to alot of concerts with my best friend. he started taking his daughter to shows at 5. and she has always had a good set of head phones for the shows. some people talked crap about them. and ive always jumped in and made sure they knew how dumb they were for talking crap and not wearing ear protection themselves. this video shows why he makes sure she has good ear protection. ALWAYS PROTECT YOUR HEARING!
an orange amp (specifically one like this bc it’s sick as fuck) is my dream first tube amp!! they look sick, sound sick, and get the job fucking done!! thank you glenn for everything you do for the guitar and mixing community. lots of love from a military dude trying to make the most of what little money i get to make each month, you fucking rock
I play bass and really really want an orange amp. I might even get one of their combos just to scratch the itch
Glen, one things you didn't cover: how well does it do as a bedroom practice amp? Can you get those tones without going "lease breaker" mode? I see it does have a 2W setting.
Not for bedroom practice on it’s own, you’ll need an ox box or similar to allow you to drop the volume while it’s cranked. Because tube amps need to be turned up to get them to sing and the kit to do that is not cheap. Solid state amps like the Super Crush 100 don’t care what the volume is just as long as there’s enough to move the speaker. 2watts into a speaker with 100db sensitivity is still pretty loud you might get away with it depending on how good your sound proofing is.
Orange brings a punch that's very unique to their amps. This little thing is a giant killer. Just gotta watch those el84s aren't over biased.
I have a little 15 watt fender rumble and a Orange crush 12 wt perfect for my small office
I love Orange amps, it gives such a raw and dirty sound that i love, and when you crank the gain, it just gets more saturated instead of compressed. YYEEEAAHHHH!!!! 🤘🤘
Killer clean tones!! 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
saw Stöner not long ago, Nick played 2 Ampegs and Brant 2 Marshalls. At least live at this event and at some other live videos. I would suggest everybody watching them live if there is a chance, but it might get loud. - Damn i was shocked by what you said about the volume levels,, i play my amp often at about 100 db with my drummer for at least an hour (about 70-80 db when playing alone in the rehersal room)and i sit not even 1 meter away. i wonder why i can still hear good after all those years. BR from Austria.
I love me a good Orange. I already have a 5150 and Rockerverb MKIII which fill out all my tone needs, but this is a sweet little head that I am tempted to check out
it makes me so happy that so many of your guitar demo song choices are from sad wings of destiny by priest
I have to say, my Amplitude Orange RockerVerb plugin is pretty good too. Especially adding a 4x12 in a large room. As for an actual amp, I have a Roland Jazz Chorus that’s 22 watts and it’s loud as shit. It fills up the space in a 30 seat place like a shop. I dig Orange amps.
Do you have a video explaining the wattage of amp/speaker and figuring out/decide what you really need?
If not, I think itd be a neat vid. of course it could just be me who doesn't quite understand it yet.
Great vid.
I'm using 20W jetcity with vertical HESU 212. Band practice or gigs with live drummer, no problem what so ever.
Love my OR15, need one of these
A very Rush-like band demo.... and I really love that new guitar !!. The Big Smoke is only 3 hrs away from me... wonder if my wife would notice 5G missing from the bank......
I have a few Orange heads. They sound great very quickly. No need to tweak too much
The OR120 was a great amp too. Pike used/uses them
I've been rocking my OR50 for about ten years at this point! Mostly playing it through a 2x12 and oh yeah is it loud and dirty enough. I only get in trouble when my bands fellow guitarist plugs his Laney AOR 100W into his 4x12!
That V into that Orange into those speakers is a thing of beauty.
Thank you very much!!
I’ve got a 25 Tube amp,
2 EL 84 output into an EVM 12L Theil cab, masters at 8:30….that = 85-90DB, I turned masters to 9 o’clock ….once = 100-105DB, this set up will definitely reach 110+ & it’s an exponential scale😳
I also had a 32watt Carvin combo, 4 EL 84. I knew an extremely loud powerful drummer then, he could reach 110 himself easily, I had zero trouble keeping up, and a combo is not near as loud as a sealed back EVM, I love the old amps, but unless you play out of doors, or into a load box it’s simply overkill
I use the Rocker 15 and the JR terror head and they are defintly enough in a metalband and defently enough for gigs
It's legit. I have a Hughes & Kettner 36W Tubemeister and that thing rips going through my Randall cab at about 70% master volume.
I learned something when I was a Ham radio operator. We used tube amps driven with a 100 watts would produce 1500 watts and everyone said they sounded better. Now I realize that was good back in the day but ALL of the Ham radios are now solid state and most of the amps are too. Plus all the tubes now are junk and you better know what you are doing when replacing them or your dead. I'm pretty sure you can achieve any sound you want with all solid state stuff and effects. If you want it louder just mic your cabinet and crank the board. Problem solved.
I started playing using fender and marshall solid sates. Don't get me wrong, they had great tone and got loud as hell. But eventually I got kind of bored with great tone- and just wanted something that was strange, unique, and dare I say filthy? That's what led me to Orange, and I never looked back. They remind me sort of the early Kinks hit "You really got me" but on steroids
I think the holy Trinity would be proud of that jam. Major rush vibes.
I have a TubeMesiter 36 from H&K and I can do band practice and small bars without issues, I found somewhere that if you have a 1 watt amp, 20 watt is double and 100 watt is double that
1W>10W>100W
you should check out the OR15 you can get them all day everyday used for 500 bucks and its part of the same line as this and i think its much more reasonable for the average guitar player
Haha... I have a Traynor from the early 70s... I agree, they are crazy loud.
I know you like to joke about it but I actually thought that was one of your best clean tones. I've never known an Orange to do ultra clean and sparkly tones but that was a really usable cleanish tone, you can always turn your guitar volume down a touch to clean it up more unless your pickups suck!
Orange have always done gorgeous clean tones,
Just nobody tries them.
I tried an orange 35rt at a shop telling the guy that the cleans are really good on transistor amps and orange make good ones.
He didn’t believe me.
After playing some - he comes back and goes,
“It’s either you or the guitar, but that sounded straight off a record so erh.. well done.”
I need to get an orange again.
Rockerverb does really pristine cleans. But yea normally Orange cleans are a little dirty.
Great video Glenn ✌️🎸🎶🍻
I have this amp and it’s amazing! I play mainly stoner/doomy shit (windhand/dopelord) and it delivers like crazy! I’m tuned down to C which helps
As someone who spent the 80's & 90's standing in front of raging 50/100w amps & 4x10/4x12 cabs, I can safely say that my hearing is not 100% as of my 50th birthday. WEAR HEARING PROTECTION!!
Also, I'm a big fan of vintage Orange amps. Glenn's correct on their suitability for Stoner stuff. I haven't owned any of the newer Made in China amps that seem to comprise most of Orange's lineup now. It might be time for a Rockerverb 50.