Bishop Barron Presents | Heather Heying and Bret Weinstein - Evolution and the Modern World

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  • Friends, it is my great pleasure to share the latest “Bishop Barron Presents” discussion with evolutionary biologists Dr. Heather Heying and Dr. Bret Weinstein, the best-selling authors of “A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century: Evolution and the Challenges of Modern Life.” In our conversation, we discuss topics such as:
    - Science and religion
    - The importance of public discourse
    - Wokeism
    - G.K. Chesterton’s fence
    - The problems of pornography
    - And numerous other topics
    Stay tuned for future “Bishop Barron Presents” conversations. These intellectually invigorating discussions feature varying religious and political perspectives to encourage greater understanding and civility.
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Komentáře • 792

  • @aeswins
    @aeswins Před 2 lety +730

    I'm an Evergreen alum. I graduated in 2017. I went through RCIA and confirmation in 2019.
    I witnessed Bret's trouble, but I was socially and academically closer to the people who persecuted him than those who defended him. I lost nearly all of my friends in Oly over the next few years, but I gained so much more. I will carry Bret and Heather's example of moral courage with me for the rest of my life.
    I am incredibly grateful for this conversation. Thank you for hosting them, Bishop. Please bless them, and bless those who are persecuted in academia for seeking truth in a world of lies and flattery. 🙏

    • @cecemeyers6028
      @cecemeyers6028 Před 2 lety

      @@theologyofthebody8383 A couple of questions I have asked of people who “go woke”: Do you think you HAVE to accept the Woke mentality in order to keep or maintain a social image of yourself as a young person (18-35) because you see what happens to those who don’t choose the “woke” dogma? Are you afraid of the fallout of what happens to those reject wokeism ?
      Do the the woke dominate through fear?

    • @MJS2376
      @MJS2376 Před 2 lety +31

      I think people would be interested in hearing *your* story, Amber Emily :-) God bless you for having the courage to own your stance towards Brett and Heather while they were going through their difficulties at Evergreen....how did you move towards RCIA and confirmation from that place?

    • @taylorc2542
      @taylorc2542 Před rokem +11

      You're a greener who says "bless you". I thought I was the only one.

    • @directinprint
      @directinprint Před rokem +18

      Very very cool. I was a Marxist when I was young… (I’m 50 and fairly conservative as I age) so maybe it’s a common experience to see the left play out, and learn as we grow. Glad you commented.

    • @ellejrrn8116
      @ellejrrn8116 Před rokem +11

      I agree with MS. I’ll add that I wasn’t aware of their experience at the time, but have discovered them through their podcast during the public health issue the last two years, (still!, not aware of the Evergreen occurrence!)
      I finally had to explore further what happened, what was this Evergreen thing? Shocking!, no doubt. I listened to/ watched hours of interviews, video of student mobs, faculty meetings...
      I finished high school in the 90’s, attended/ grad LSU late 90’s. This mobbing, cornering and agitating, and total lack of conversation has been shocking- not surprising (given the temperature of opposing sets of the last little while, I’m not really sure, as I’d have to admit I must have not been paying attention... admittedly) This tactic of dealing with the world and each other, I don’t think was my generations way of going about social gains...
      One of the things that I have been curious of again and again is just what Amber Emily states here, and thank you for doing so. I have wondered how these young adults have developed outlooks and insights since Evergreen. If their stance has moved them to dig their heels even deeper... or has time, life experience broadened their view of those in their concentric circles of interaction and influence gained their consideration and respect- have they figured out that many of those that were the subject of their vilification had viewed them with mutual respect (and even in the face of the mob really tried to have reasonable dialogue.)
      I do wonder if many “outgrew” their rage... thank you, again for your comment. I do think it is met with understanding, compassion, and appreciation.

  • @frsamfrench
    @frsamfrench Před 2 lety +426

    This is such a strange cross-over. I listen to these podcasts totally independently of one another, and for totally different reasons. Now they're crashing into each other. Should be fascinating.

    • @josemartinez6316
      @josemartinez6316 Před 2 lety +17

      Same here. Have you seen the one with Brett and Jonathan Pageu? You should if you have not.

    • @elleneylers987
      @elleneylers987 Před 2 lety +8

      I also watch both! So surprised to see this!

    • @sarahgould5435
      @sarahgould5435 Před 2 lety +24

      It's not really strange. The Catholic Church and Bishop Barron personally both stand behind evolution rather than a literal reading of Creation in Genesis 1, they just teach that evolution was caused by God.

    • @crakhaed
      @crakhaed Před 2 lety +7

      Love to see science and religion getting along. It is kinda wild to see them on his show, ngl. It's nice though.

    • @jesseg5902
      @jesseg5902 Před 2 lety +1

      @@josemartinez6316 you are so good I can oooooioiiioioiooj

  • @brendamyc3057
    @brendamyc3057 Před 2 lety +318

    I love the fact the Bishop is taking notes and is always trying to learn more. The best teachers are also the best students.

    • @prosperitynuggets
      @prosperitynuggets Před 2 lety +2

      I think those are just his interview prep notes rather than study notes. The host of the unbelievable podcast who do hour long interviews like this one does the same.

    • @brendamyc3057
      @brendamyc3057 Před 2 lety +3

      Yes, and he adds to them.

    • @judoman2013
      @judoman2013 Před 2 lety

      Inspector please

    • @prosperitynuggets
      @prosperitynuggets Před 2 lety +1

      I would imagine he's either crossing off pre written questions(it looks like he does it several times during the interview) or adding new questions he could ask. I think it would be inappropriate to spend time writing "study notes" as the interviewer

    • @brendamyc3057
      @brendamyc3057 Před 2 lety

      He recently did a talk on this topic to a different audience and presented the argument he had for that talk to these folks. He added info for further discussion to his notes which he wrote while reading their book with his arguments in mind.

  • @londonsmith5348
    @londonsmith5348 Před 2 lety +166

    The Good Bishop Barron has a lightening fast mind and goes to the heart of the great questions. As a son of a biologist and chemist I grew up in a science/faith family. All compatible, trust me.

    • @jac1161
      @jac1161 Před rokem +6

      They are more than "compatible." They are married, and their fruit is a theology in itself. A lot of science much include a love of art. Part of the problems we have in medicine, is science with out CONscience. Too many "smarts," too little wisdom. Fear and feelings, over faith and facts. REAL science affirms and is affirmed by the faith. And faith, affirms and is affirmed by...science. It's all from, of, for and by God.

    • @thanksforbeingausefulidiot9016
      @thanksforbeingausefulidiot9016 Před rokem +1

      @@jac1161 I'm just curious, is the wonderful fruit of this marriage between faith and science include the theology of Islam or Hinduism, or does it only include Christian theology which, by the sheerest accident, you just happened to be born into?

    • @suzieqgm643
      @suzieqgm643 Před rokem +2

      Of course they are compatible since God created everything ♥️

    • @anonosaurus4517
      @anonosaurus4517 Před rokem

      @@thanksforbeingausefulidiot9016 Where they each encounter an immutable truth, they share that encounter in common. This is certainly what Christian theology would say. Any honest Christian would say that Islam touches upon inevitable truths. The question is not about that, but rather about the fullness of truth. This is where the fundamental divide is found and it is encumbent on each person to work to discern and understand that divide.

  • @michaelmurray7583
    @michaelmurray7583 Před 2 lety +230

    We are living in a special time. As a Catholic, I couldn't be more grateful for these types of conversations. Thank you Bishop Barron, Bret and Heather for setting the example!! This was heartwarming. I hope there is more 'dialogos' from WOF and the broader Catholic + human community.

    • @surfacegr1nder705
      @surfacegr1nder705 Před 2 lety

      I agree, as a non catholic but a steady listener to all three of these extremely intelligent people.

    • @stefandieter4044
      @stefandieter4044 Před 2 lety

      Hello Michael how are you doing over there?

    • @ronnestman4696
      @ronnestman4696 Před 2 lety

      Very well spoken Michael.

  • @heartspacerelaxations6924
    @heartspacerelaxations6924 Před 2 lety +50

    I’ve been listening to this couple, along with Jordan Peterson and James Corbett of The Corbett Report for the last 2 years. Such respect for these people as well as Robert Kennedy Jnr. and the millions fighting for truth and freedom over lies.

    • @lorrainepec7577
      @lorrainepec7577 Před rokem +1

      @HeartSpace Relaxations like yourself, many of my friends and I "discovered" Bret & Heather, we are grateful for their input and the discussions.

    • @mikefaber3567
      @mikefaber3567 Před rokem +1

      I have listened to that same group of people. Including the Bishop though I'm not Catholic but I am an evangelical small E Christian. I'm not sure anyone presents the christian worldview better than him.

  • @jimluebke3869
    @jimluebke3869 Před 2 lety +29

    Such a relief to see respectful dialog between scientists and religious figures, all of whom are thinking deeply =)

  • @fortworthJimmy
    @fortworthJimmy Před rokem +80

    As a non-denominational Christian, I don’t have words for how much I have enjoyed this conversation. I have the deepest respect for both Heather & Bret and the Bishop. Thank you for reassuring me there are still reasonably and brilliant ‘adults in the room’ who can actually have a real conversation. Hence, my note to the leftist-bombastic LEADERS of this country, you might want to take note and lead accordingly. As it was said in the infamous “Office Space” movie, “that would be great”…

    • @alternativeavenues7664
      @alternativeavenues7664 Před rokem

      Convert to Catholicism! You won't regret it, I promise!
      God bless, friend!

    • @iamPROTOTYPE
      @iamPROTOTYPE Před rokem

      Mike Judge also wrote Idiocracy

    • @anonosaurus4517
      @anonosaurus4517 Před rokem

      Our "leaders" are too stupid and lost, so let us let the Dead bury the Dead.

  • @marvelator8303
    @marvelator8303 Před 2 lety +52

    Bishop Barron was unbelievably sharp and on top of the ball with this conversation! Loved his persistence with questions that cut right to the heart of truth.

    • @zhozhoc
      @zhozhoc Před rokem +1

      Great and gentle conversation. Thank you, Bishop Barron, Heather and Brett!

  • @debifox6555
    @debifox6555 Před 2 lety +125

    Wow. I’ve been listening to Brett and Heather throughout the whole pandemic. I so appreciate their deep intelligence and insights.
    I’m also an original Word on Fire Institute member and super excited about its reach and mission. I’m so happy to see these conversations, Bishop Barron, with learned, thoughtful and articulate people in our culture with whom we might not fully agree, but who are as concerned about our shared life as we are.

    • @angelinejohnson9511
      @angelinejohnson9511 Před 2 lety +8

      Be grateful we have points of disagreement. That means (1) we're in a democracy (2) there is more to learn (3) we are not uniform (4) the world is rich and multifaceted.

    • @stefandieter4044
      @stefandieter4044 Před 2 lety

      Hello Debi how are you doing over there?

    • @debifox6555
      @debifox6555 Před 2 lety +8

      I am grateful for a multitude of perspectives…it’s interesting to me how many of the comments show that many of us do seek them out. The civility and good will in these interactions is heartening.

    • @ronfox5519
      @ronfox5519 Před rokem

      I have also gained much from listening to datk horse. Its very interesting to me how little we really disagree on when all involved are being straight.

    • @victorgomes7585
      @victorgomes7585 Před rokem +1

      And they have a great energy. And just stands out more when them two are together. Makes me feel so relaxed/ present.

  • @ronnestman4696
    @ronnestman4696 Před 2 lety +42

    God bless Bishop Barron and Word on Fire ministries. The way they facilitate conversation and create a inclusive forum to mine for the answers to the hard questions. Excellent!

  • @TeacherMom80
    @TeacherMom80 Před 2 lety +19

    "Keepers of the Flame" (-- Brett)
    I LOVE it!
    Through the darkest of times, the phrase, "Be the light that washes away the darkness," has kept me going. 🥲
    Well said, Brett.
    You, too, Heather, of course!
    I simply love you two & am so very thankful for you.
    And thanks again, Bishop Barron, for having them on. They are extraordinary people! I appreciate you. All 3 of you have been a guiding light to my family. 🥲 God be with you & yours, always.
    Banks Family
    Massachusetts (USA)
    💖🙏🏼🕊️

  • @ecstaticallyeverafterwithc5904

    3 national treasures in one place! So grateful for this conversation.

  • @TeacherMom80
    @TeacherMom80 Před 2 lety +28

    Wow, what a surprise to see the Weinsteins on here! Thank you, Jesus! These 2 have been my steady ground & voice of reason since the start of the pandemic. Thanks for having them on Bishop Barron! God be with you guys! Im really looking forward to this & am so very thankful! Yay! 💖🙏🏼😇

  • @marygabbert702
    @marygabbert702 Před 2 lety +52

    I'm old school, I believe science is investigating God's creation.

    • @davyroger3773
      @davyroger3773 Před rokem

      Sounds like Deism

    • @kaufmanat1
      @kaufmanat1 Před rokem +6

      @@davyroger3773 or... You know... Every scientist pre 1800

    • @TopShelfTheology
      @TopShelfTheology Před rokem +3

      @@kaufmanat1 Dat Natural Theology tho

    • @ninaluz8710
      @ninaluz8710 Před rokem +2

      Yes I agree God will allow Science to discover Him🙏

    • @kaufmanat1
      @kaufmanat1 Před rokem +6

      @@ninaluz8710 God made the universe. Studying the universe is effectively studying God's fingerprint. To study any creation gives insight to the creator. To study all creation does give insight to its creator. This was one of the fundamental principles behind the origins science, assumptions like a rational universe based on a rational creator were necessary, and explains why it was Christians that gave rise to the scientific method... Not atheists.

  • @Growing4LovePeace
    @Growing4LovePeace Před rokem +29

    Thank you, these guests are comfortably thoughtful and articulate on so many diverse subjects. Even though it's unfortunate how they lost tenured positions, it really great for society to have them more available to a broader audience.
    Love, "Iam a very temporary custodian of something really important and ancient, ..."

  • @STRENGTHFROMABOVE
    @STRENGTHFROMABOVE Před 2 lety +14

    God bless you today who's reading this comment have a blessed day love you all and we are praying for you in any situation you might find yourself. God is always there. Amen

  • @angbandart
    @angbandart Před rokem +2

    Bishop is an intellectual powerhouse

  • @indieeric6530
    @indieeric6530 Před rokem +12

    Ahhhhh👀🤯🥳🤓🙏🏼!!!!!! Some of my favorite public intellectuals getting together. I would have never in a million years expected this collaboration. Thank you to all involved in making this happen. ❤️

  • @mapaz555
    @mapaz555 Před 2 lety +20

    Great intelligent calm conversation. I love Gentle discussion. Blessings to all

  • @francesmorgancline2821
    @francesmorgancline2821 Před rokem +12

    Listen to both podcasts love that they have come together ❤️. We must never forget to discuss, debate and we will find commonality

  • @violey3386
    @violey3386 Před 2 lety +28

    Bishop Barron is an amazing interviewer. This was really wonderful .

  • @pbziegler
    @pbziegler Před rokem +3

    One good thing that came out of the Evergreen experience is that we can experience conversations like this one with Bret and Heather on You Tube. Evergreen's loss in a gain for the rest of us.

  • @dereklords9688
    @dereklords9688 Před rokem +6

    Wow, this is really good. It’s actually much easier to let Jesus Christ into my heart and take up the center of my life when our Lord’s good news is borne with such dignity and grace. Bishop, I love you and I’m so grateful I found your voice on here.

  • @marathrites
    @marathrites Před rokem +10

    Thank you so much for this conversation with Heather and Bret!

  • @brandochlovely3590
    @brandochlovely3590 Před 2 lety +30

    Wonderful. Just wonderful. I'm a theist and I could listen to Dr. Weinstein and Dr. Heying...ALL. DAY. LONG. Thank you.

    • @jamesmorris8600
      @jamesmorris8600 Před rokem

      Why are you a theist.

    • @brandochlovely3590
      @brandochlovely3590 Před rokem

      @@jamesmorris8600 The short answer? The real foundational question is whether or not ALL of reality is contained within spacetime? To the atheist it is. To the theist, space and time are created things. It takes more faith to believe that the universe was just "there", that is, ex nihilo with no creative agent. A pre-existing particle or the infinite regress of the multiverse do not constitute "beginnings".
      It takes less faith, IMO, to believe that an infinite-personal God, who "exists" outside of spacetime and who created space, time, and everything contained therein. God's existence can address the issues of origin, morals, meaning, and destiny. Atheism explains nothing. The planets are silent. All the planets allow for are social contracts and arbitrary absolutes.
      IF there is a reality OUTSIDE of spacetime, using the tools of Greek logic, to/from and before/after, that are trapped INSIDE spacetime, are useless to determine the existence of anything outside of spacetime. So saying God isn't "logical" makes no sense. God "exists" outside of logic. My quick 2¢. Sorry for being long-winded.

  • @cristinapamaar1738
    @cristinapamaar1738 Před rokem +12

    So relevant conversation! I applaud the three of you for your wisdom
    And courage!

  • @HumanDignity10
    @HumanDignity10 Před rokem

    Thanks to all 3 of you for having this conversation!

  • @Martin-qm2lg
    @Martin-qm2lg Před 2 lety +8

    Thank you and look forward to listening in on these fascinating and very instructive conversations on critical issues.

  • @hmk7063
    @hmk7063 Před 2 lety +46

    Incredibly excited for this one. Three of my all time favourite thinkers coming together for what is sure to be a stupendous discussion.

    • @suzieqgm643
      @suzieqgm643 Před rokem +1

      I concur with this comment whole heartedly! 3 of some of the greatest minds together in one room ♥️

  • @cristero3616
    @cristero3616 Před 2 lety +7

    Bishop Barron is an evangelist to the core.

  • @BhutanBluePoppy
    @BhutanBluePoppy Před rokem

    I appreciate all 3 of these people. Really good & mutually respectful conversation. Thank God we still have them.

  • @brittneyrichmond6724
    @brittneyrichmond6724 Před rokem +5

    Very excited for this conversation. I love listening to all of you!!

  • @Iam1DK
    @Iam1DK Před 2 lety +15

    Enlightening, and intellectually and spiritually nourishing. Thank you Bishop Barron and WoF staff for the outstanding content

  • @brunomadaleno2581
    @brunomadaleno2581 Před 2 lety +6

    Thank you for your service. Amazing guests, they are amazing. Keep fighting the good fight Bishop Barron.

  • @rosepal211
    @rosepal211 Před 2 lety +2

    One of my favorite episodes of any CZcams video/podcasts. Enjoy both of your channels individually, but together... WOW!

  • @JWForce1059
    @JWForce1059 Před rokem +2

    Thank you, Bishop! This is an awesome collaboration to see!

  • @takeeverythingin
    @takeeverythingin Před rokem +10

    excellent format and filming.. hope to see more of these, with you speaking with those in related disciplines with the Church. thank you for this Bishop Barron.

  • @hypergraphic
    @hypergraphic Před rokem +8

    I absolutely love Heather and Bret! I'm so glad you had them on.This was such a good conversation, very helpful.

  • @dawnmuir5052
    @dawnmuir5052 Před 2 lety +31

    Wonderful exchange! Marvellous to see so many conversations now connecting various respected and diverse voices in our corner of the internet. I love the good faith evident in the exchanges between open minded proponents of free speech and genuine truth seeking.

  • @brendamyc3057
    @brendamyc3057 Před 2 lety +18

    Loving the people sitting here discussing and learning if it is possible to walk in hypostatic union and how to do so. God is at the table too exuding joy just being there with the kids.

    • @angelinejohnson9511
      @angelinejohnson9511 Před 2 lety +4

      more of this, please. if we'd enjoyed this level of discourse the MOMENT sound files could be transmittted on the web 20 years ago, I wonder if we'd be in a better place today.

  • @kenneth7826
    @kenneth7826 Před 2 lety +6

    Super conversation....bravo and thumbs up...thank you to 3 people who are making us think..peace

  • @chasingwheels
    @chasingwheels Před rokem +6

    An immense pleasure to discover Heather Heying and Bret Weinstein Bishop Barron's company and enjoying every word said in this thoughtful conversation. Many thanks for this open view.

  • @denisevarner3402
    @denisevarner3402 Před 2 lety +2

    This is a convergence. Thank you for this conversation.

  • @karafierstein5895
    @karafierstein5895 Před rokem +5

    I was so excited to see three of my favorite people (to listen to)sitting around a table together! Thank you!!!

  • @catherinegiuliano8573
    @catherinegiuliano8573 Před rokem +1

    This is a truly spectacular conversation. It’s full of so many insights and wisdom, explained so clearly and with such humility and clear intelligence. Thank you all and bless you !!!

  • @profeh3346
    @profeh3346 Před rokem +1

    I hope that these three will meet and converse again. They all clearly have more to say! And I would love to listen. I do t think I’m the only one! A part two please!

  • @dm3988
    @dm3988 Před rokem

    The Bishop is such a wonderful interviewer. He is so gracious and considerate of other people.

  • @AM-xh6sk
    @AM-xh6sk Před rokem +6

    Two evolutionary biologists and a bishop. The fact that these three talked so long with openness and respect and admiration and curiosity gives me hope.

  • @mysticalrosepodcast
    @mysticalrosepodcast Před 2 lety +14

    I love that Bishop Barron is having these conversations

  • @jimeddleman8511
    @jimeddleman8511 Před 2 lety +4

    Refreshing and insightful. One may not agree but should be grateful to have the opportunity to move out of the echo chamber. Thank everyone for giving and accepting the invitation.

  • @guhlobtrekker
    @guhlobtrekker Před rokem

    The bishop is an absolutely excellent communicator and so well spoken. What an excellent intro and ability to lead the discussion

  • @DelayedLaunch
    @DelayedLaunch Před 2 lety +2

    Love this conversation! These two are great thinkers! Fascinating stuff

  • @TheRonBerg
    @TheRonBerg Před rokem

    Honest to God this is one the 10 best conversations I've listened to in my whole life.

  • @blumusik9572
    @blumusik9572 Před rokem

    What a fascinating discussion between intelligent truth seekers. I have listened to many videos from Heather, Brett on Darkhorse and Bishop Barron on theology. This is an amazing convergence of great thinkers trying to understand our objective reality. Wow. Thank you for creating this. It underscores the value and wisdom of all their work and my ability to discern truthseekers from misguided confused academics.

  • @michaelweber5702
    @michaelweber5702 Před rokem

    This is fabulous , good questions from Bishop Barron , fascinating answers from Heather and Bret . God I love those two !

  • @mariethomas4703
    @mariethomas4703 Před rokem +1

    Three very philosophical people having a conversation in a civil manner. What a breath of fresh air.

  • @das3841
    @das3841 Před 2 lety +2

    What a great conversation, thanks All!

  • @deaconpladek
    @deaconpladek Před 2 lety +8

    Absolutely riveting discussion for points of intersection between evolutionists and creationists, not to mention good source material for my next homily about God as Trinity.

  • @timrichardson4018
    @timrichardson4018 Před 2 lety +4

    At 8:46, I like this view of consciousness. There is something about sharing your thoughts with another that brings clarity to them. Conversation is also, often, how we realize we're wrong. Others have said it, but thought is, in many ways, indistinguishable from speech. They're not synonymous, but thought does seem to be murky without conversation of some sort.

  • @gregfaircloth6440
    @gregfaircloth6440 Před 2 lety +1

    I am a loyal follower of Bret and Heathers podcast “The Darkhorse Podcast” and was grateful to find them here..brilliant as
    always

  • @phillipdevous201
    @phillipdevous201 Před rokem +3

    I’m a big fan of Brett & Heather’s podcast and of Bishop Barron. What an extraordinary conversation! Bravo to all of them for coming together. Bishop Barron is the only US prelate who could do this.

  • @dm3988
    @dm3988 Před rokem

    Wonderful conversation. So satisfying to watch. Please more conversations!

  • @marcos2606
    @marcos2606 Před rokem +3

    that was a wonderful discussion between well-read and highly intelligent people. Hope to see more of these on these channel!

  • @phillippenna5558
    @phillippenna5558 Před rokem

    Wow - that was simply wonderful. It just got better and better. Thank you to all three of you. I consider this video "essential viewing."

  • @angelinejohnson9511
    @angelinejohnson9511 Před 2 lety +8

    oh I used to LOVE walking past the museum in Ann Arbor en route to/from classes, and reading that quote: Go and see for yourself. It was so inspiring: what I need, what all of us trying to do science need -- and what anyone else trying to forward human knowledge needs. My thanks for this conversation.

  • @brendamyc3057
    @brendamyc3057 Před 2 lety +13

    Today I learn that breathing honors God my ancestor and creator who gave me the ability to breathe by giving me my first breath with His Holy Spirit. Thank you God my Father.

  • @bettystroup7821
    @bettystroup7821 Před 2 lety +10

    I really enjoyed this discourse. I’ve listened to a great many of Bishop Barron’s presentations on the “intelligibility of the universe” and stayed with you, Bishop, as you asked your questions. (I felt I knew where you were going with it) What I was happy to hear were the responses of your guests. I heard/learned another way of thinking. Did it change my mind? Not at all but I was grateful for the exposure.(WOF offers many such opportunities/ presentations) I’m not ok with saying I don’t need to go down that route when an intuitive thought peaks my imagination. Thanks to WOF, I’ve learned how to think, question and dialogue on many topics. The variety of WOF fellows/speakers presented have opened my mind in an otherwise hectic world full of distractions, many disordered, that want to pull us away from spirituality and our right praise of God. Thanks for this presentation. Your guest speakers were outstanding, as,of course, you were Bishop Barron.

    • @morriechamberlain
      @morriechamberlain Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, when a scientists confronts questions that science cannot answer because they are metaphysical questions, they should think about those questions and read what others, especially philosophers and theologians have written because they are humans first, scientists second.

  • @allyourbase888
    @allyourbase888 Před 2 lety +1

    Beautiful conversation. Thank you. 🙏🏽

  • @napoleon6071
    @napoleon6071 Před 2 lety +19

    This was an amazing civil discussion. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Theology, philosophy, and science meet.

    • @TimBitts649
      @TimBitts649 Před rokem +1

      Theology meets science: Brett got out of the question, of the mathematical improbability of this universe, by saying physics claims we might have an infinite number of universes. Therefore we just happen to be in the one, that works mathematically. Brett talked himself into implying God exists, when he said that. Why so? Because an infinite number of universes would contain an infinite number of intelligences. What is a standard word for something with infinite intelligence? God.

  • @sarahgames7617
    @sarahgames7617 Před 2 lety +8

    I'm a itty-bitty "baby Catholic" having just completed RCIA and the Sacraments of Initiation earlier this month and I am often elated as I get further acquainted with my newfound faith and the Church... but... I also love and carry with me 15 years of getting to know the Gaia Hypothesis/Theory, a singular planet life or "Earthlife" paradigm considered by some astro-, molecular- and evolutionary biologists. This past year I have been blown away by discovering (what I believe to be) attributes of Gaia Theory in Catholicism and I credit both Bishop Barron and the priest at my local parish, Fr. Todd Strange, for sending out a message of science-oriented acceptance that encourages me to feel comfortable and confident in pursuing knowledge about two seemingly detached and disjointed perspectives on life, the universe and God.

    • @jonkelley7713
      @jonkelley7713 Před 2 lety

      Welcome Home sister

    • @janetgrupe9870
      @janetgrupe9870 Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Sarah. I just want to inform you that there is only Father God. There is no Mother Earth. You are mashing together to religions to make a religion for yourself; this is called syncretism. If you see any similarity in Gaia Theory and Catholicism, I would question that; it could be a strong deception from the Enemy. I'm surprised you made it through a year of RCIA and you are still worshipping the goddess. (I'm being sarcastic here: I'm sure Almighty God is thrilled that you made a little room for Him.)

    • @sarahgames7617
      @sarahgames7617 Před 2 lety

      @@janetgrupe9870 The Gaia Theory, or any scientific theory for that matter, is a conceptual structure used in research of natural and observable phenomena thus I'm surprised that you would equate it to goddess worship and religion. It's not disagreeable to find science in faith. When I recite the Nicene Creed and say that God is the maker of heaven and earth I am affirming that God is also ultimately responsible for what we find in the study of biospheric science too... in fact we were told by our priest not to shy away from it because he believes the study of sciences eventually leads back to God. I think Bishop Barron is trying to send out the same message too.

    • @janetgrupe9870
      @janetgrupe9870 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sarahgames7617 I am familiar with the scientific method. I guess the word 'Gaia' carries certain connotations. After working in academia a dozen years, I haven't heard that phrase used. I wouldn't even call it pseudo-science. It's considered ancient mythology. Here are some quick Google definitions: One of the Greek primordial deities. the personification of the Earth, as "Mother Earth", she was the second element in the evolution of the cosmos after Chaos- the primordial void, one of her first offspring was Ouranos, the sky god, who became her lover and later abuser. she encouraged her son Kronos to castrate Ouranos and throw his genitals across the sea. It's more than 2,000 years since she was first worshipped. Today, this false god is back largely thanks to the scientist and environmentalist James Lovelock, whose Gaia hypothesis describes how all living organism form part of an interconnected, self-regulating ecosystem.
      "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." 2 Timothy 4:3 Please forgive the annoying capital letters: TO BE SAVED WE NEED JESUS PLUS NOTHING ELSE

    • @sarahgames7617
      @sarahgames7617 Před 2 lety

      ​@@janetgrupe9870 I'm not fond of the word "Gaia" and its inclusion to describe this particular paradigm. Maybe in the future, through research and discovery, a better fitting word or description will eventually be found. Something that doesn't trigger people into calling it "goddess worship" when there is no basis for it what so ever. But regardless of that, I will continue to enjoy learning about a subject that I find fascinating a little understood and if I encounter difficult moments where it challenges my faith in God I have no doubt that I will receive kindness and compassion through prayer and a couple conversations with my priest and other trustworthy folks at church. Thank you for your concern.

  • @ghostrecon3214
    @ghostrecon3214 Před rokem +4

    As crazy as things are in the world, its the plethora of podcasts/channels like this where a diversity of people and ideas are exchanged in good faith. There is a beautiful cross-pollination going on and it gives me great hope

  • @mikemccarthy6719
    @mikemccarthy6719 Před rokem

    Bishop Barron is spot-on in going after form and final causality!

  • @nmiipsych5238
    @nmiipsych5238 Před rokem

    It's refreshing to see people who disagree having a peaceful conversation :) loved it

  • @antonijadragoje4910
    @antonijadragoje4910 Před rokem

    Thank you, dear free and courageous people🙏🇭🇷

  • @ChiaraDBrown
    @ChiaraDBrown Před rokem

    All of these are model human beings. God bless all three of you!

  • @defeatingdefeaters
    @defeatingdefeaters Před 2 lety +16

    When Bishop Barron asked the Weinstein’s to ground “the good”, he was essentially asking them a question about ontology. I noticed the answer Bishop received wasn’t an answer of ontology-the response was merely an account of how we’ve come to “know” the good, but that’s an epistemological response. Seems grounding the good on naturalism isn’t answered here. It’s hard to see that naturalism (or anything like it) could provide a foundation for the good. I enjoyed the interview however. As a Catholic, I do like the Weinsteins a lot and I am a regular listener of their DarkHorse CZcams channel.

    • @mariog1490
      @mariog1490 Před 2 lety +2

      The best attempt was Plato. But Aristotle and Plotinus, in my opinion, really challenged him in a way that kept what was useful from Plato (form/pattern, logos, anagoge) and threw out what was not useful.

    • @vanessa1569
      @vanessa1569 Před rokem +2

      I thought it was answered quite well. The evolution of morality and why humans sacrifice opportunities for the sake of others. I suppose even when we’re ‘doing good’ there’s an agenda. Obviously the Bishop could have pushed back. This is the beauty of conversations without ego, there doesn’t have to be a winner ☺

  • @hadamerryweather577
    @hadamerryweather577 Před rokem

    They are now living a very comfortable life and it is well deserved. And now they are keepers of the flame on the quest for truth, allowing us to be an audience to their conversations. When good triumphs over evil...

  • @Beesmakelifegoo
    @Beesmakelifegoo Před 2 lety +1

    Tremendous!
    Love IS
    Thank you for your conversation.

  • @cloud1stclass372
    @cloud1stclass372 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this Bishop Barron! Would love to see you pursue lines of inquiry with people like Bernardo Kastrup and Rupert Spira. I really think some amazing conversations can come of such a meeting of minds! 🙏🏻

  • @HammerdownProtocol
    @HammerdownProtocol Před rokem

    I love these long form discussions. More, please.

  • @bvokey8842
    @bvokey8842 Před 2 lety

    Thank you Bishop for doing your part to address the meaning crisis in which modern western society is experiencing.

  • @harrisonjones1087
    @harrisonjones1087 Před 2 lety +11

    I still think these modern podcasts prove that people always would have and could have listened to and followed complicated, deep, long form discussions in the public sphere, but our overlords always said we were too stupid and could only pay attention for five minutes. I love seeing this stuff emerge

  • @poppymoon777
    @poppymoon777 Před rokem

    These two are just brilliant and always worth watching

  • @jomontales4678
    @jomontales4678 Před 2 lety +4

    What a combo! Thank you Bishop Barron for having the Weinsteins!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @andrearodigari4840
    @andrearodigari4840 Před rokem

    And I really appreciate that level of conversation.
    If just the leaders would learn from you.....

  • @Wonyalyonga
    @Wonyalyonga Před rokem

    Hello there Bishop. I am a fellow catholic over here in Cameroon, and, i would have loved that we have a bishop like you. Please, if your timetable permits you, do come to this place. You will see what Bret and Heather experienced 10 times more than everywhere you've ever been. I am aware of all this because of my professional background.

  • @hooligan7222
    @hooligan7222 Před rokem

    I was a staunch atheist until I grew up; now I'm a respectful agnostic. Heather and Bret are dope- but shout out to Bishop Barron- what a delightful conversation. Tea and medals for everyone!

  • @johncordoue7829
    @johncordoue7829 Před rokem

    Great discussion. Thanks to Bishop Barron for generous dialogue. Thanks to the guests for recognizing limitations of the science. That has been the problem in my view, this “scientism” which draws conclusions way beyond a scientific grounding.

  • @Rugbylacroose4life
    @Rugbylacroose4life Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you Bishop, God Bless you.

  • @staninjapan07
    @staninjapan07 Před rokem

    Wow! That was (insert positive adjective here).
    So many valuable points, and so simply and honestly put without pretension from anyone.
    Thank you all involved for this.
    I shall be visiting this one again sometime not too far in the future.

  • @johnclark1371
    @johnclark1371 Před 2 lety +10

    The study of science (physics, biology, astronomy) has deepened my faith. It does not provide a definitive proof of God, but it is one influence that has deepened my belief. Dr. Francis Collins wrote a book titled “The Language of God” that provides an excellent reconciliation of science and faith. Rather than illuminating a God of the gaps in our knowledge, he shows a God of Aquinas’s understanding as being itself. Great discussion.

    • @dave1370
      @dave1370 Před 2 lety

      Ironically, that book is pretty obsolete and Collins has taken much heat for it. ENCODE 2012 pretty much killed neo-Darwinism. Read Genetic Entropy, Signature in the Cell, Foresight, and others. Darwinian theory is done.

    • @johnclark1371
      @johnclark1371 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dave1370 Collins’ book is a bit dated. I have heard him in more recent discussions respond to some of the criticisms, and discuss the accepted science to date and enduring truths that he attempts to illuminate in the book. I know that during the pandemic he was widely criticized for his leadership of NIH (in some instances rightly so). Einstein said that the most incomprehensible thing about the universe is just how comprehensible it is. Collins’ points to some of the lasting constants and equations that bring about that comprehension. For me, some of the book and the direction of his argument was as much philosophy/theology as it was science. Thanks so much for the additional sources. I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to pass them on. Have a blessed day.

  • @anneturner2759
    @anneturner2759 Před 2 lety +3

    Very excited for this talk .

  • @janetwalmsley-heron
    @janetwalmsley-heron Před rokem

    Thank you for making this video and God Bless your lives

  • @jeansenior9777
    @jeansenior9777 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for framework to understand life. For believing in objective reality.

  • @coreyfisher2542
    @coreyfisher2542 Před rokem +1

    Wonderful exchange! Three of my favorite people.

  • @cecilefox9136
    @cecilefox9136 Před rokem

    Fascinating conversation! Thanks!

  • @vjensen56
    @vjensen56 Před rokem +1

    More conversations like this! I love it!

  • @Peter-vi4de
    @Peter-vi4de Před rokem +1

    We are in the golden age of content and independent collaboration. This is so cool.

  • @arfprostudios-theunderdogs2511

    Bishop Barron is amazing at asking questions...They don't want to admit it but they don't have an answer for it...