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Ep. 073 - One Cartridge - One Bullet | What Would You Choose? |
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- čas přidán 24. 05. 2023
- On this episode, Seth is joined by Neil Davies, Mike Jensen, and Preston Lentfer. The guys discuss an interesting hypothetical scenario: if you could only use one cartridge and one bullet for the rest of your life, what would it be and why? Everyone has a different answer, it's interesting to hear their response. What would you pick?
A 7mm-08 would probably be my choice. There’s a lot of great choices though.
It depends for me if i have grizzly bears or wild tigers to deal with. Then heavy-duty or magnum 30 ca and bigger
Get the prc and load it light.
@@stevokyI'll stick with the 7mm-08 vs the prc because tbh the eddlx isn't a great bullet. The 708 beats it out on selection. Yes the prc is a flat shooter but really needs more options. Factory anyways
Yeah…that’s def a good one.
I’m with Neil, I’m 59 years old and been hunting with 30-06 since I was 14 or 15 . I have two 6.5 creedmoors and two 6.5 prcs but if the big buck is on the move it’s a no brainer 06 all the way . Really love the podcast, listen every Thursday morning then 2 or 3 more times before the next Thursday. Thanks for all the information you guys give us for free . Hornady all the way for me .
What if the Russian's , N. Koreans and Chinese are on the move ? 6.5 Creedmoor all damn day.
Fabulous episode. It seems these one caliber conversations always come back to the 30.06.
Yes in a newer rifle and hand loaded will work for large game even most african. 30.06 or .300 prc
I have been running the 7mm08 for nearly 20years I neck down 308 cases and run projectiles from 100grains for plinking and vermin control up to 175grain for sambar deer. All with ADI powders here in Australia. Great combination of stuff.
Very surprised not one person mentioned defensive applications, the 308 in an AR10 would have added a whole other factor to that as a choice. Loved the convo and different choices!
308 is a good pick but the 243 is the same case with a flatter trajectory. It's like a little 270.
I'll stick with .30-06. I learned it in the Army with the M1Garand. One bullet? One thing about the cartridge is its flexibility with different bullet weights. 220 grain softs can work with Alaska's big 3 (moose, buffalo, Kodiak bear). For all around, perhaps a 180 grain boattail softs.
6.5 Grendel in a 12" AR-15 suppressed. Home Defense, vehicle, hunting, low recoil, fun on steel out to 800-1200yds, conditions-dependent. 123gr ELD-M
I joust don’t think that’s how they interpreted the question but that is a good point.
.30-06. it is the blend of my .300wsm and my .270win. such a wide range, and availability is great.
So much comes down to personality and preference within each person's skill level or financial ability. The 30-06 continues to just stand there as the quiet many that everyone listens to when he speaks. American classic that isn't in 1st place for almost anything, but is on the award stand in every single competition.
the ubiquitous 308. the one cartridge so many others are compared to or based upon.
7mm-08 Remington with hand loaded ammunition:
For Hunting Deer, Moose, Elk: 145gr LRX or 150gr CX
For target shooting, training,competition, and deer hunting: 150gr ELDX
In a small frame AR chassis with short barrel and suppressor, maybe 139gr GMX or a 168gr Berger.
As a Texan and a deer hunter, I would have to choose the 270 winchester. From 4 to 400 yards and a 150 grain partition, it will never get any better for hunting in Texas.
7mm-08 is a happy medium between the 6.5 cm and .308. It's comfortably capable from coyote to elk. Works well in shorter rifles and AR10 platform. It's not the best in any single category, but handles long range, hunting and freedom just fine. LRX or CX bullet would be good medicine for a huge range of critters.
7mm-08 139gr Cx or
6.5 prc 130gr Cx. 127Lrx
Good point
7mm-08 is a good one - IMO better today with today's bullets than it was at introduction. It doesn't -quite- have enough velocity for my liking. You can make it go fast at the expense of going to some really light payloads for caliber.
That might be my favorite as well, just a good all rounder.
This would have been my second choice, and it’s a very close second.
6.5 PRC w/ 156gr Berger EOL. Recoil is manageable enough to shoot in matches (about same as 308), enough power to hunt anything in America, great performance for target shooting out past 1k yards, short action. Not great barrel life, but that is like complaining high performance cars wear tires out too fast. I have a hunting rig in 6GT, and I'm not going to lie, it kills everything but the biggest of animals, and I love it.
30-06 is definitely the answer ESPECIALLY for we experienced handloaders with the components available to us these days. A big ELD over N555 is a thing of beauty ... but so is a 110 grain in.30 over ... well, the possibilities are endless for plinking. 30-06 is the answer. Then 45-70 with a BFR sidearm to match.
.30-06 indoors for HD is a non-starter.
@@LRRPFco52 that's not what WWII troops said postwar about clearing Nazi controlled houses, MOUT Environment, house by house. A Garand in 30-06 got the job done.
@@GalloPazzesco It actually is. They preferred the M1 Carbine in tight, confined spaces if possible. Garand was great for shooting across hedgerows, busting sand bags, hitting bunker apertures, and common infantry engagement distance work from 25-300m. It sucks for MOUT once you have to enter and clear a room. They weren't doing surgical CQB though. Riflemen, BAR and 1919 gunners would lay fire to any occupied structures if combatants were in them. Armor rolled through first anyway, then it was a matter of policing up the mess.
The Germans used MP38s and MP40s for clearing indoors. Units that fielded Soviet weapons really liked the PPSh-41 7.62x25 SMG with 72rd drum or 35rd box mags.
Like I said, the Garand and .30-06 are non-starters in the house. Cook off just one round of .30-06 indoors and you'll see what I mean.
Even the AK indoors is brutal on your ears and senses with overpressure, as is 7.62x51. BTDT
@@LRRPFco52 you could always reload reduced power loads. 7.62x51 loaded down to reduced power loads with a 180 grn would do it.
@@sstrongman1667 Won’t cycle the action on a semi-auto unless you build the action specifically for that gas profile.
30-06 and the 168 ttsx here (not a match shooter). My buddies and I started deer hunting with 30-30/32sp/303 british some 30 years ago, then started moose hunting and we all chose the 30-06. For a number of years, we have been using either the Barnes 150 ttsx or 168 ttsx and the performance has been outstanding (we tried GMX ammo and didn't shoot well in any of our guns however the Barnes stuff we can get 0.5/0.75 in all our guns and we get full pass through in moose at any angle).
Upvoted thanks 👍🏼
My pick would be the .308. It covers everything I would hunt from varmints to Elk!
30-06 180 gr Nosler partition . . . yes, I'm an old guy. Favorite though is 270 Weatherby 150 gr Nosler partition. . . you'd think I was related to the Nosler family. Meat hunter.
40 years ago I was trained on the 7.62x51in the CDN infantry. Since then my personal rifle is a 308Win. I reload for it and it has never let me down, never wounded and lost an animal.
The new 270 with 8 1/2 twist barrels...170 grain bullets
30-06 would be my pick. 180/190 gr bullet.
Being a handgun hunter myself, I appreciate the 475 Linebaugh choice.
I think a handgun would be the pick , 460xvr
Cartridge: 30-30 Win
Bullet: Hornady 30 cal .308 dia 170 gr FN InterLock #3060
Been using this combination since 1967. I have a deer camp in northern Michigan and another in free state of southern Oklahoma. Both are mostly thickly timbered, a little hilly and can't see deer very far away. Don't know how many deer I have taken, but all have been shot well under 100 yds. All I know is that the Hornady 170 FN is a real deer killer.
Haha I'm in Oklahoma and I 100% agree with you the 30-30 can punch through the brush and still bring deer down and sometime still go through the deer with a 170 grain brick! I love my 336 and my PawPaw's old model 94 never lost a deer with my 30-30
Hands down the .308 with so many loadings and chambered in a plethora of actions. Also efficient and light kicking.
But the thing was only 1 bullet.
@@kalindanley2843 but still not as efficient or light recoiling as a 6.5 creed
@@TangoOne effecient? Hmm. Not sure what that could mean. We may have different metrics. 6.5 Creed is pretty sweet, but I'm afraid the PRC line put the cream on top of all three size 264 284 an 308.
@@kalindanley2843I have to say my 6.5 prc is very efficient
My first scoped rifle was 30.06 , 180 g. Nosler Partition. Nato round. Ammo availability. Knock down power. Classic for a one gun man. I have never shot factory ammo because premiun projectiles were not available. 94% dropped in trackes. Blacktail to moose. The greatest variaety of bullets and styles. Things have changed. Shot my .06 for 30 years hunting and competition. My passion will not waver. Built a 7mm rem mag to over a mile. Luv it. Knock down does not equal my .06. Now working on 6.5 Creed. BOOM 30.06/180 partition .
Im not a real long range hunter.
Im a huge 35 cal fan. So first to mind is a 35 cal launching a 225 Accubond. Either the Whelen or the Norma Mag.
Altho the 7Rem Mag is strong with a 150 Terminal Ascent bullet.
I would use exactly what I am using today: .300 Win Mag, 212 Gr. Hornady ELD-X. One round dropped a very large Mule Deer at 295 yards.
I have never hunted Moose, nor have I hunted Black, Grizzly, or Polar Bear; however, I believe, based on the devastating effects of that round on that Mule Deer, that the cartridge and bullet I have described is capable of getting the job done on anything in North America that goes on four legs.
Thanks for this great discussion.
30-06 Springfield and a all copper bullet in 168gr
Good choice
I started life with a model 88 Winchester in .308. Killed many deer with it along with anything else I hunted with excellent results. BUT, later in life I bought a Savage Model 110 in .270 Winchester. I believe if I had the option to go back and start again, I'd have bought a .270 and never looked back.
I got my first elk with my Grandpa’s 270. Very capable caliber although I’d probably go with a 308 personally.
Really easy…..30-06 with a 165-180gr. bullet
30-06 loaded with 180 grain swift a-frame.
I actually prefer the 200 grain Swift A-Frame myself, in the 30-06! 😵🥊
Good choice though! 👍
@@ronlowney4700 I'll have to try them out. I'm looking at setting up a 30-06 with open sights for hunting all of north America and possibly Africa. I like getting in close
🕵️♂️ You won't find a better bullet for Big Animals! The Swift A-Frame is the #1 Choice in Africa for Dangerous Game Animals for A Reason! With that 200 grain bullet, you can kill Grizzly Bears and Lions, should the Need Arise! 😵 I have used it in all my Big Magnums and I have NEVER seen a Bullet Perform Better! 🤑 It certainly knocks the Big Bull Elk on their a_ss! My last Bull Elk was a 7x7 330" (one of several dozen I've gotten) that I took at 450 yards (1 shot and dropped him right in his tracks) was with my 270 Winchester and a 150 grain Swift A-Frame bullet! 🎯 He never knew what hit him! ☠
I’ll be the odd man out, but the 338 Fed has proven to be an outstanding hunting cartridge. Not long range of course, but more than I’ve ever required. A fat (.338) 160 TTSX at 3k ft/sec just works.
Can confirm it crushes animals. Also amazing in 225 gr subsonic.
30-.30 hand loads. Hornady 160gr ftx,
Cfe-223 at 22.5 grains. Cci primers.
Grab my 1964 model 94 Winchester and never look back.
Edit: rifle has a sling and a receiver mount Burris fast fire 3.
I built an AR 10 in 308, shoots the Federal Tactical 168 gr ammo at 1/2 moa out to 500 yards. Great setup and ammo is easy to find. 308 for everything for me.
7mm Rem Mag @ 175gr ELD-X. Checks an amazing amount of boxes.
Drop to 140gr or 150gr and it's arguably even better at the expense of ranges that are... beyond most hunting, beyond most of today's ranges and require some level of dedication to remain proficient at.
If u got a custom barrel that's definitely the ticket
Shooting a 30" Brux in my custom.
7mm is going to be the best choice. The Mauser brothers got it right at the birth of smokeless! That 7x57 was about perfect, now with the old guns out there you can't buy good hot loads for the 7x57, and powders have gotten better. So the 7PRC or a 280 AI would be my choice now. I just have not seen all the handloading data for the 7prc, but I bet reduced loads will show up.
But WHY WOULD I HAVE ONLY ONE? 2 or 3 gives you so much more capability and given the cost of hunts, the extra rifle(s) are not that big a part of the budget.
If you could pick different bullets and handload, the 458win mag could be loaded down to a mild 45-70 level, and up to African Big 5 level?
Yep, I was thinking the good old 7mm, just a bit more versatile in in both directions.
The 6.5 Grendel and the 123gr ELD-M. You can fight with it. You can hunt with it.
You can fight and hunt with anything
There are too many things the .308 Win does well enough. Pushing a 168 grainer with 42 grains of varget in a lapua case would perform well in many platforms.
.270 with 130 grain interlock!
As simple as that
I went with the 30-06 180 gr. before watching the vid. Now I am sold on it if I get to have multiple setups.
Started with a 30-06 some 40+ years ago. Been my go to for deer hunting, see no reason to change. Having said that, if I were limited to one cartridge I thing I would choose the 44 Mag. Handloading for rifle and pistol.
30-06 178gr eldx taken muntjac to red stags with it and every in-between hands down my favourite
30-06 and .308 are tried and true, I love them both....BUT.....In my 40 years of shooting and 25 years of reloading, there's no way I can honestly go without a 7mm-08, 26" barrel with a 168 grain SMK or a Hornady 175 grain Interlock. 7mm Rem Mag with a muzzle brake 120 grain ppu for lighter stuff, 180 grain Hornady match for heavier game. Yes I know MATCH isn't designed for game. Honestly, game won't know the difference with shot placement.
Tikka T3X superlite 308, carbon fiber stock, stainless barrel, A-tec H2 suppressor, Zeiss optic 3-18X shooting a Barnes TTSX 150 GR
First off, thank you, gentlemen, I really enjoy this platform! Like Neil, right on thru my teens and then well into my late 20's I shot the the 7mm Remington Magnum. After that I stepped up to the 300 Winchester Magnum. I suppose it would be fair to say that recoil sensitivity was not something with which I struggled. But now, later in my years, I have grown to appreciate the lighter recoiling calibers. All that having been said, were I to have to choose one caliber I would have to choose the venerable .30-06, and the one bullet would be the 178gr Hornady ELD X. I like Whitey's choice as well. I find the .475 Linebaugh very interesting! I've done much with the .44 Magnum, but am planning on doing something with a .460 XVR/.454 Casull this fall. Whitey, based on what's currently available, what EER scope would you recommend?
I love having similar debates with my friends, I pick up my .270 for about two-thirds of my hunts, but I can’t wait to try out your 7 PRC. I may have to change my answer in a few months.
Having grown up with Jack O'Conner, I'd opt for .270 with 130 Nosler Partition.
When I am in varying ranges. High cover, no cover. Turkey through elk. The 30-06 is my go to.
.270 Winchester with 140gr or 150gr Accubond
I said .308 Winchester as soon as the question was asked... You can't beat it. Heavy barrel for long range Ar10 for personal
6 arc 80 gr cx. AR 15 and bolt gun. Will do everything that I would need to do.
.308 for me with the terminal accent 175gr bullet. For life
I really like this addition. Not a Comp shooter but mine is a 270 with 130gr cx.
I own a 6.5 Creedmoor and it’s fine for deer and elk. I also have a classic savage model 110 in 30/06 and aside from a pretty hefty recoil it has proven very effective for any type of game. As far a match shooting it’s a no brainer, the creedmoor is tack driving accurate
Mine would probably be a 280 AI with a 131gr Hammer Hunter. It's a good combo.
You wouldn’t go faster twist with 150’s? Too slow? I was thinking a fast twist .270 win with 140-150 hammers.
280 AI for the rest of your life? Does that cover home defense?
@@LRRPFco52 ya it’s fine, if all the home invaders stand behind each other you could get like 6 or 7 of them at once.
@@wesleyturner1979 fast and flat baby. I’ll bump it up to the 145 HHT though.
@@noahhorinek they only make a 160 in the .277 HHT! 🤦♂️.
But speaking of, I just ordered some and didn’t spring for the tipped ones. Have you used them? Are they worth the extra coin?
Fortunately I have been lucky enough to use many rifles and cartridges but my favorite rifle actually turned out to be two. A Winchester model 70 sporter in 30-06 with a 3-9x40 Leupold scope, and it is complimented with a Winchester model 70 supergrade in 30-06, with a 3.5-10x40 Leupold scope.
284 Winchester with a 139gr SST for me. Well placed shot with this loading in the 7mm-08 is plenty enough for deer, black bear, elk, and wouldn’t be a stretch for brown bear from what I’ve seen. The 284 Winchester gives you an additional 150fps or so while staying in a short action.
Hands down the 308! Thanks for the great conversations and time you guys put into these pod casts. 168gr Barnes. Sorry guys my BAR Hog Stalker just likes them best.
I've shot prarie dogs all day long with 30-06 with 110 gr bullets that I made .Very easy on the shoulder. Coyotes with same loads,30-06 all the way. Great show.
280 Ackley w/ a monometal bullet (CX, E-tip, TRSX,etc) would my choice.
243 in 100 grain interlock. 7mm08 in 139 grain interlock
Mine is my .45-70 with a 350 gr. Hornady RNFP Interlock!
30-06/165gr Nosler Partion, or Swift A Frame. What won't that kill properly placed?
I love the choice of the Linebaugh. That is the direction I would lean as well, but just a little shorter. .480 Ruger with a 410gr bullet. In a rifle you are still beating black powder 45-70 ballistics, and it is still incredibly shootable in several revolvers.
260 Remington
They've got the barrels right and the project's are good. And there's also the AI.
300 min mag would be my 30 cal choice... But one cartridge is the 260
One Bullet: 160 grain .308" Hornady FTX
One Cartridge: .30-30 Winchester.
One Rifle: Marlin 336 with half-length magazine tube, fitted with Lyman M-66 LA aperture sight equipped with Merit adjustable iris sight disc.
Distance / Velocity / Energy
M 2,380 2013
100 2176 1683
200 1983 1397
300 1881 1152
400 1631 945
Supersonic to 800 yards. 1.25" or less for four shots @ 100 yards. 9.6 pounds of recoil.
What's not to love?
As a "still hunter," the Marlin 336 in .30-30 with Leverevolution or duplicate handloads is pure functional bliss.
270 Winchester and the 130gr CX.
Almost all the game I hunt are deer size or bigger. Recoil from a 300 win mag does not bother me. Never had a problem shooting one very accurate. I love shooting my 6.5 creed... but if i could only shoot 1 cartridge, 1 Bullet for life... I'm going 300 win mag. 200 grain terminal ascent. I would have no doubt in that round for up to grizzly sized game. Also a high b.c bullet great for long range target shooting.
6.5 Grendel, 123 SST with CFE 223. The Grendel can go from small game to wild hogs and bear if needed (not my thing) In a AR-15 platform its the perfect cartridge for a bit of distance with a 18" barrel and with the SST hit coyote, hogs, prarie dogs, rabbits etc. On the larger side deer, black bear, cougar, elk. The range is good for at least 600 to 800 for competition shooting if I wanted to go that far.
.308 win, 175-180 grain bullet will handle just about anything. .30-06 with a 180 grain bullet would be my second choice.
For hunting, I bet the 7mm rem mag with 155 gr terminal ascent, or the 30-06 with a 175 gr terminal ascent would both work quite well.
the good OLE 270 winchester 140 SST
.270 Win.
bullet choice is tough - I keep changing my mind.
...150gr Interlock, 145gr ELD-X, 130gr CX...?
although, I could be talked into .308 Win only b/c I could also have semi-auto capability
in which case I'm going with 165gr CX bullet
Concerning the guy with the ruger number 1, I have a special edition Browning B78, built on the newer 1885 action and trigger, in 30-06, with a beautiful feathercrotch walnut stock on it. Quite accurate and a wonderful hunting rifle.
Love the conversation, for me personally and the things I hunt in my area, my old Remington 700 in .308 does everything I need it too
I’ve always said if I could only have one rifle it would be a 280ai. With that choice I was really only thinking hunting. Expanding out to one cartridge multiple rifles, 308win is probably the best choice. Before watching I expected all the Hornady guys to say one of their 6.5’s
My choice would be a 30-06 AI with a 168gr TTSX or a 180gr Interlock
I picked the 165gr Partition, or A-Frame. Same concept.
I really like the 7mmPRC, but, here in the Yukon, we are restricted by law the caliber size for bison and grizzly. My go to, to fit all big game, plus sheep, goats, caribou, etc, 300WM, 180gr.
My first rifle was a ruger m77 in 3006 to
I’m more of a sport shooter than a hunter. I would say, without over thinking it, .308 win. with whatever the most middle of the road bullet is for .308, 150gr? That way you can get an AR10, M1a, or a SCAR (if you have more money for guns than I do). You can also get a very respectable 800 yard precision gun. It seems like .308 would also be acceptable for most hunting. Since I just like making holes in paper and dents in steel, I would probably go with something like an ELD bullet but as mentioned, I think there are some good hunting bullets that can also pass as a fairly precise bullet.
I would have to say 270 in 130gr Sierra game King
Well for me is the 7 x 57 and 160 gr Nosler Partions. Yeah no flies on the 139 gr Hornaday SP either, I shot a lot of deer with those but I take the 160 Partitions or Swifts for the heavy game like elk and moose.
🤠 Since you are a bullet maker and probably want to know what bullets I prefer - as I only "Truely" care about hunting - I like a bonded lead core bullet for hunting! If you want reliably expansion, great weight retention, and no petals to RIP off (which causes the bullet to shrapnel and veer off course, like those monolithic/copper bullets) - then you can't beat a Swift A-Frame bullet for toughness and consistency in performance (a perfect mushroom every time)! If you want a bonded bullet with a higher B.C., for longer range hunting (which could also be used for competition shooting), then the Nosler ABLR is my bullet of choice! My Gun Manufacturer of choice is a Sako rifle! Best Scope Glass is Schmidt and Bender, but I would prefer a lighter scope for hunting, so I would probably go with a VXIII Leupold in a 2.5-8x! Rifle chambering of choice? If I was hunting the World, then it would have to be a 30-06 (as the 30 caliber is King 🤴)! But, because I am hunting only North American, then it would have to be a 270 Winchester! Bullet Selection - of the 4 Finalists a 150 grain Swift A-Frame, 150 Grain Nosler ABLR, 155 grain Federal Terminal Accent, and 165 Grain Nosler ABLR! So, let's go with the 165 grain Nosler ABLR bullet for more hunting "Versatility" and a lighter recoil (allowing for better shot placement) in the 270 Winchester, where competition shooting is possible (compared to the 168 grain Nosler ABLR in the 30-06 - though I would probably pick the 200 grain Swift A-Frame for the 30-06, if I was Hunting the Entire World)! 😯 Luckily, I own both calibers, so I don't have to choose! 🤑
Scirocco>A-frame and has better jacket taper than the Accubonds do for more reliable expansion across a broader range.
Well said! I would pick one of my Sako’s too! Either my 30-06 Finbear with 165 Accubond or my Sako 300 wsm with 200 grain Accubond! And a VX5 Leupold scope
👨🏫 I do shoot the 130 grain Sirocco II's, but they don't make a 150 grain Sirocco II for the 270 Winchester! The Sirocco bullet was redesigned and, from what I've heard, both the original Sirocco and Horneday's Interbond had the same problem! Performance at close range wasn't apparently working out too well for either? It is tough to get a bullet to perform consistently well at all ranges and I still do prefer the Bonded Bullets to the Monolithic Solids! 👨💻
I've been shooting the 7 mag for 25 years. You can reload 100 - 195 gr bullets depending on what you're hunting. I live in the South and shooting long range across the bean and corn fields. I shoot the 162-180 gr Amax with kill shots out to 1100 yds. The current ELDMs in the 180s are my go-to bullets. Great bullets!
Assuming no issues with ammo cost or availability, it's gotta be 338 Win Mag for me. I am comfortable enough with the recoil to shoot it all day, and it can take any game comfortably on the Nth American continent.
All things considered, '06 for me all day long. 165 or 180 gr. Interlock.
Great discussion. I would add my pick. It would a .30-06 and 180 grain interlock. Big enough for anything and I could make it for everything else if I had to.
45-70 has been around for 150 years and still a damn fun round shoot.
Wow. I have 3 of the best all rounders-7mm-08 Rem, 30-06 and .308 Win....I have to say, I'd go with 7mm-08 Rem. As I age I find that I am reaching for lighter recoiling 7mm-08 Rem. I'd choose the 139 grain bullet for 2800fps.
7mm-08 24 inch bbl 175gr eld X hand loads. That would handle any big game in North America and will out perform a 30-06 180gr at long range.
Another good choice would be a 280 AI.
Why compare it to the 180grain 30? I think it would be more appropriate to compare it to a 195 or 220 grain.
Before I watch. It’s a no brainer for me…. 7-08 with a 150 grain Barnes TTSX or 150 grain CX.
I'd have to say a 280 ackley improved with the new 175 grain federal fusion tipped bullet. I feel like 7 mm's are very versatile due to the high bc. Less recoil for more energy down range
30/06!! 190gr Berger VLD. Excellent match bullet and deer and elk bullet.
I've watched most of the shows. This is one of my favorites by far. My buddies and I have had this conversation many times. For me I would nail it down between 2. 1 would be the 7PRC 175 ELDX. For all the reasons stated in the episode. However I have no experience with the 7 PRC. So the one right now I'd go with is the 30-06 with 178 ELDX. I have a savage ultralight in 30-06 with a 22" proof research carbon barrel. I have a VX 5 mounted on top. It shoots absolutely amazing. The only thing I'd like to change is to switch out the factory stock for a carbon fiber stock with a vertical grip.
I am writing this at the begining of your show if I HAD to make this for a choice it would be the >270 Win. and 110 grain
Barnes TSX bullet. That's because I have found in personal experience that it will take anything from Moose on down without having to shoot twice
.30-06 Because of the great selection of bullet weights. Will kill anything in all 50 states. Bella Twin on May 10 1953 in Alaska killed A Grisly Bear with A .22lr If she can do that .30-06 is the perfect cal for me. And most important readily available everywhere. Also I have had an FFL for 26 years.
Bella Twin did not use .22 LR to kill a grizzly bear. She used .22 Long, which was only a 29 gr projectile at 1250 fps and less potent than .22 Long Rifle by about 60 ft/lbs.
6.5x47 140 ELD-M - great for short range bench shooting and at 2780 great to 1000 yards in any condition. Great projectile, very speed stable case with Varget or H4350.
If ammo availability is not a factor, I'm going with 7mm PRC with 160 gr CX bullets. The 30-06 is a GREAT cartridge that will do pretty much anything. But I think any of the fast sevens will do all the same things. There is something to be said for the slightly larger frontal area of a 30-cal, but I think that's a minor trade-off for what you gain. If everything you shoot is up close, does it really matter what you shoot it with? But if you need to take a longer shot, why not do it with a cartridge that's optimized for that? The heavier bullets the PRC is designed for puts it in the same weight class as the 30-06.
I'll take CX bullets for more reliable penetration.
6.5 PRC 143 ELD-X Would be my choice. For what I do..
6.5 prc with a 143-147-153-156
I'm mainly a pistol shooter so with that being said I'd have to go with 357 Magnum with a 158 grain JSP, this combination will do pretty much anything youll need it to in a pistol and it works great in a rifle too
The 357mag is an awesome round , my carry is a 16" lever carbine, I use 158gr hard cast lswc , my personal protection in bear territory .....great for hunting in thick brush .
30-06 with a 180 grain. It will do anything I would ever need to do.
284 Winchester with 154 Interbond. Great short action rifle.
Said it before, will say it again. Food gun with little kick, 243. I use for small, medium, and elk. Accurate and no losses yet. My "Boys" laugh at my little pea shooter but I harvest consistently and they, not so much!
love what you guys do, keep up the great work.
Much appreciated!
Any plans for 308 150 or 165 grain eldx or should i stick with interlock? 178 grain just seems like overkill on deer
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