Best (and Favorite) Elk Cartridges, with Ron Spomer
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- What's the BEST elk cartridge? Or should we ask, what's your FAVORITE elk cartridge? This fun episode with Ron Spomer and Tate Bradfield takes a humorous and deep dive into most practical elk cartridges and favorite elk cartridges-and how they're rarely the same!
Plus, we talk one-shot drops on elk, marginal cartridges versus marginal shots, how to master heavy recoil, and more. ENJOY!
You just can't beat the fellowship, knowledge and laughter of y'all three. Great show!
I loved this episode! It felt like a few buddies just sitting around talking about hunting and cartridges, which makes for a joyful watch!
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
338 Win Mag. Never had to shoot twice, nor chase one.
yep that's a good one hits hard!
Agree
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Not sure why you would need a 338 Mag, but to each his own!
In Norway suppressors are not a controlled item. Very strange that you need a permit for something to protect your ears.
Agree..That's American gun laws . In a country that says firearms are a birthright. We sure aren't very free..
Here in Canada suppressors are actually illegal. But that’s no surprise since the gov really doesn’t care about the people.
Product of Hollywood movies. People think they make a firearm silent - thus desirable to criminals.
@@tominva4121 Yep, so true.
Great information in your podcast. I have been practicing with my 300 PRC off a bipod 100 to 400 yards. You three and other elk guides I have been following state a fact, practice, practice, practice with your rifle in shooting positions that are likely during a hunt. Thank you.
Encourage Tate all you can in what he is doing with processed based hunter, this type of experience is surely needed in the hunting landscape. Thank you Tate. Hope to take your class with my kids someday and hunt with you. God bless
30-06 ALL DAY!
My favorite Elk,Moose or Caribou cartridge is a 340 Weatherby Mag. 225gr Barnes TTSX bullet at 3040 fps has been one shot drops. 115 yds Caribou ,Moose 165 yards and 435 yds Elk. I love the copper bullets and like Ron Spomer says, the shot placement is absolutely the most critical!
Do you realize there are 7 species of Moose, and they all are different sizes with the Yukon Moose the largest of all Moose.
So, to say I shoot moose is near meaning less because the smaller moose like the Shiras moose is caribou size, so deer guns are often used on these moose.
And to hunt Alaska's Yukon moose with a deer gun is asinine stupid where the hunter can get charged then killed.
I was nearly killed by a High Yukon bull Mooser my dumb ass client shot with a deer & varmint hunting gun 30-06 .
Another moose attack that made the local Anchorage news a hunter was walking along the Knik river when a Hugh bull moose can out of the brush the man shot 3 times with a deer gun 30-06 hitting the Moose in the chest and then the moose charged the man was nearly killing him and by luck the Moose broke off the attack then the man laid there for 5 hours when more hunters came and found him.
The man had 28 broken bone and a punctured lung and was close to death.
The attacking bull Moose was never found.
Never screw around in Alaska with large mean dangerous animals or the weather can kill !
@@lurebenson7722 if a 340 Weatherby is not big enough then you must carry a Barrett 50! I know how many moose species there are and I’ve harvested a Yukon! 340 is more than enough!
300 win mag is good for anything in North America
I can't believe no one mentioned the 7mm08
Very nice round but seems too small.
@@kentspeigner8738 not at all.. it's neck and neck with the 270&280
Have one, and it's definitely enough for elk out to reasonable distances. I think it's just a confidence thing. Craig Boddington's daughter took one to Africa and harvested all sorts of plains game including a nice zebra, which are crazy tough.
Copper is not denser than lead, it is harder.
Yes, copper is only about 80% the density of lead. That is also why a 130 grain copper bullet is physically larger than a traditional 150 grain cup and core.
338 Win mag. My dad raised me on high recoiling rifles and in 1999 when I was 11 the 300 RUM came out. He handed down his browning A bolt stainless 26" barrel down to me. He used to shoot hornady 225 interlocks but I figured out a load with 225 barnes TTSX over 67.5 gns IMR 4350 that it enjoys even more. Same hole groups at 100 yds and 2800 MV. To me, there is no reason to consider anything else.
Thanks gentleman. This was super helpful and fun to watch.
30-06.
Great podcast. I live in N. Ireland. Most guys here use moderator for noise control. Most moderators are over the barrel which is normally about 4". We are more into shorter barrel length. My 308 and 6.5x55 Swedish are 20" barrels and they perform great. My 6.5x55 Swedish stays super sonic to past 1100 metres. I agree with Tate, they aid accuracy & more pleasant shooting. I shoot a lot near castle so the moderator is unbeatable in such an environment.
30-06
Really upstanding young man. I saw him on backfire. Not many folks do the right thing the right way. Please share with him.
Joe, U made my day! 300 H&H Pre 64! I’ve Dads 50s era from Central Africa…land of my birth and hunting. Nothing against the others.
Not much changes in these conversations. Shot placement and Gr8 Ammo lmao 😊
No best cartridge ! Favorite cartridge, oh yes ! Many of them, and some tied with others, no clear winner ! My favorite … several ! Can not decide ! Ok 7 mag, 175 gr….. never an issue…..close range, .32 win spec. Thanks 👍🤠
3006 NOW LETS WATCH THIS
Given that Ron just did a bunch of 3006 videos I'm very surprised that it wasn't mentioned
Shot mine with a 7mm rem mag at 265 yards hornady 154 grain sst superformance. Dropped like a stone.
7MM-08 WITH 150 GR ABLR OR 145 GR XLR
I love my 300 wby in 180 grain and great info and amazing show 👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍😁🙏
At 18 years old I had my first of 8 300 Weatherby rifles now that I am 64 years old.
No need for any bullet past 180 grains for the 300 Wby just be a Barns TSX - TTSX or LRX killed everything, and I grew up in NW Oregon hunting Roosevelt Elk - Black tail deer and 30 years living in Alaska my 300 Wby mags always took down Yukon Moose - black bears don't stand a chance with that kind of power and Caribou just fall on their face dead.
For the large and dangerous bears, I use a CZ 550 in 9.3x62 Mauser with exceeding book reload data to turn the 9.3 into nearly the 375 H&H mag and for the death hammer I have a Rare Brevex Mauser done in 8mm - 378 Weatherby magnum shooting Barns X blue bullets or Barns X 220 grain bullets - I loaded up on those old Barns X bullets before they became obsolete.
For the 8mm-378 the loading is a Barns x 200 grain using 115 grains of IMR 7828 for 3800 FPS ! from a Douglas 30 inch barrel.
I use the CRC dry Moly lube spray to coat the bullets for lube and protect the rifle bore.
300 Weatherby with 180 grain bullets hard to beat
I agree
30-06. 180gr nosler partition
375 H&H 270 gr. Nosler
Lots of great choices....but as Jim Carmichael wrote "There are plenty of all-around rifles, but where are the all-around hunters?"
280 acly proved
35 whelan
Hey Joseph. Love the podcast. I have listened to nearly every episode. I have been contemplating a different 7mm rifle so, like many, I have been scouring the internet for information so I can make the right choice. I was confident I needed to move up from my 7mm Weatherby Magnum because the 1:10 twist would not stabilize modern 7 mm projectiles. I like my 7MM WM a ton. Stainless steel barrel and action (Rem 700 action) with an old Browning Boss muzzle breaker/tuner. It has been an accurate, reliable hunting partner for years but I thought it may be outdated especially for elk. I found an article written by you in "free library" on the 7mm WM. You had two and loved the cartridge. You mentioned the long freebore as a positive for shooting heavy for caliber projectiles. I know that Weatherby is hard to find and the ammo is expensive for everyday hunters but I think your listeners would enjoy a breakdown of the 7mm Weatherby and its comparison to 7mm PRC and 7MM Rem mag. Quite a few unique talking points on this cartridge and especially if the long freebore precludes it from the 1:8 twist for stabilization. Also, will the additional speed of 7mm WM be suitable for all bullet designs and perhaps excellent projectile choices for the 7mm WM. I know of one long-time listener that would enjoy an episode on one of Roy Weatherby's best cartridges.
Thanks for listening! I'll see what I can do.
Are you into having a custom rifle made?
You can buy used upbeat up Rem 700 rifles for the actions at pawn shops or gun shows then buy a Douglas AAA air gauge barrel then have a good gun smith finish your rifle in like the 7mm Shootings western or the thumper the 8 mm Rem mag.
Boyde's stocks you can design your own stock my model and type of checkering.
I just had Pac Nor Barreling put a new barrel on my rifle with fluting and muzzle brake for $500
Great episode! 300 prc or 7mm Magnum
I am glad they brought up the barrel length issue. That is something that may hunters seem to ignore.
It is also important to note that a factory rifle with factory ammo can be very different than a rifle with a custom barrel and hand-loaded ammo. The 7mm SAUM, for example, gains a lot when put in a longer action and used with longer, higher-BC bullets. It becomes the equivalent of the 6.8 Western. The WSM series also gain extra oomph when loaded long. The SAAMI chamber for the 300 Win Mag is not great, so it can be a challenge to get an accurate load. Many find it overall less expensive to get a custom barrel with an improved chamber, rather than shooting box after box of ammo (or many reloads) looking for an accurate load.
It’s become obvious to me that I will never be able to get to hunt elk. Might have been able to afford when I was younger but never had enough time off from working a regular job and farming at the same time. Now at 71+ years with health issues that keep me out of the field even though I’ve got the time. Ron has commented on other shows that it’s cheaper to go to Africa than a guided western U.S. elk hunt. If not for health I would be limited to public land without guide which is probably a crap shoot at best depending on where. With all that said I’ve been accumulating so-called “elk rifles” over the years with the dream that one day everything would fall into place. Out of my stable here are my three horses all loaded with Nosler Partitions: 300 H&H, 35 Whelen and 338-06.
I was fortunate to have been born and raised 20 miles from the Diamond Peak Wilderness in Oregon so I grew up Elk Hunting and took Roosevelt Elk with both .243 and 7mm Rem Mag loaded with Nosler Partitions. My dad had his trusty Model 70 Alaskan .338 Winchester Magnum that he bought new in 1958 and used right up until his death in 2016. Now I live in Florida and hunt whitetail and hogs so I've went back to the good ole .243 Winchester.
@@rogerf7265 At 64 years I was as a child fallowing the elders on Roosvelt Elk hunts from the Tillamook Forest and Saddle Mountain unit.
We as the family had rifles from 7 mm Rem mags - 300 Wby mags the 8 mm Rem mag is a death hammer and so is the 8mm - 378 Wby mag .
The problem here is shooting over massive canyons of the coast range deer guns just don't cut it.
I shot a Roosevelt bull 11 times with a 280 Rem and the problem was I wasn't able to get down the steep canyon and up to the Elk on a massive 45 degree canyon side to get close so take the shot and hope it worked, every shot fired the Elk showed a hit but the 280 Rem was just too weak to make the Elk go down on the spot.
I was watching earlier even commented and then it kicked me off and said the video was private now 30-45min later it’s back but not live
This isn’t the first time this happened on your videos
I’m not complaining just saying it in case you’re not aware
I really enjoy all your content and I’m sure the second half of this one will be excellent
I had the same thing happen.
35 WHELEN GANG RISE UP
I have mine in the Rem 750.
Great moose round here in Maine !! 250 gr. Hornady
338 win mag
"Translate to English!" Haha, stick to the All-American 30-06
One of the most enjoyable hours I've spent watching CZcams. Thank you gentlemen.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I actually watched this episode Live or at least had live chat. I participated heavily when I could in the chat. 💬 I like the 3 more common choices, I knew JVBs not as common choices in the 280 AI and was glad to hear Ron mention the 300 WSM which is what I bought in 2019 for out west, but have yet to be able to use it for that yet. Part of me with the horrible ammo shortage which I would have went with something more common, but at the time my Dad and one brother had a 300 Win Mag and my other brother had a 7 REM Mag. So I tried something different. Thankfully 😅 I can reload.
I enjoyed the story telling as well. Demonstrating how tough mature bull elk can be. Plus the point of shot placement with the biggest cartridge one can shoot accurately is extremely valid.
Cheers gents
@TheWVgoodguy22 Thanks! This was a really fun episode to create... Unfortunately we have ongoing technical difficulties. The first upload was the wrong (unedited) file. This one glitched and uploaded as a very low-res version, so both audio and video are poor. We're going to take it down shortly, give it a rest, and try one more time. Hopefully third time's the charm!
@@BackcountryHuntingPodcast you are welcome 🙏 and it looked like lots of fun between you three gentlemen. Yes hopefully 🤞🏻 a third time is a charm
@@BackcountryHuntingPodcast Sounded fine to me.
20 in bbl 30-06 180 gr bonded bullet (Accubond) @ 2750fps, don’t need a 24 or 26 in barrel.
22" 😜
30'06 22" 165 Accubond 2900fps.
Loved this episode!
280. Rem
seems most folks talk about the Cartridge..."What's the best Cartridge for Elk?" ....when they SHOULD be talking about what the best BULLET for Elk is.... :
(1) - if it ain't Bonded, don't take it for elk, PERIOD !
(2) - 140 grains or above (IMHO)
(3) - has to be going 3000 feet per second or just stay home
(4) - if you cannot hit a 4 1/4 " clay pigeon at 250 yards EVERY TIME, practice more before hunting
if you cannot see the sense in this, just stay home ...
Edited to add :
My choice? 6.5 PRC with 142 Accubond LR bullets @ 3050 ftsecs ....in my rifle 1/2 MOA shooter and hits like the Hammer of Thor
Good Video guys Thank You.........OnWard.........
Greatest vidio ever !!! Thanks again guys
You need to make a trip out to the Olympic Peninsula for Elk. Massive heards in the Humptulips area and the beaches are close by so you can spend a few hours getting a limitless catch of Rock Crab.
Thanks for the video, great stuff. Love to see Twinkie on the video
Is the gentleman on the far left the same guy that’s often in Backfire’s videos?
Yes
@@flynnryder7798I thought I recognized him.
@@drakeslocum2564 Yep went on a Bison "harvest" last month with him (Tate).
@@danblumel he seems like a great guy!
For the suppresor advice, I'll try that when the theft is limited to sales theft alone
I’ve mostly used my 1992 Browning A-bolt stainless stalker in 338 WM but lately I’m thinking the 300 WSM, as Ron stated, is a great option in a short action rifle. I just bought a left hand Tikka in that chambering.
Louis L'Amour! Haven't even thought about his books in 30 years.
ENJOYED...N Timely God Bless You All.
Im a big fan of the 404 Jeffrey case. So i love the 300 and 338 ultra mag cartridges. I own 2 300 ultra mags one rem 700sps and a custom 700 longrange build. And my 338 is actually based off the 300 case necked up to 338 called 338 edge. Also longrange build. These are phenomenal cartridges capable of bringing down anything that walks with proper bullet choices and placement.
After that i like the 300 win mag or my 3006ai
I think you are referring to the 300 RUM necked up to 338,
I am considering this 300 RUM necked up to 338 but also may go with the 8mm RUM .
I have already did the magazine work over with the Winchester Model 70 I own that is in 338 win mag.
From a online site I bought the Winchester Mod 70 magazine box and fallower for the 300 Rum and that is all installed and done.
I own a Rare Brevex Mauser chambered in 8mm - 378 Wby mag using a Douglas 30 inch barrel that is a death hammer !
I am pushing Barns old blue lubed X bullets in 200 grain at 3800 FPS.
When I needed big animals to die on the spot because the chance of finding the animal would not be good of the animal took off after shot the death hammer 8mm - 378 Wby mag put the animals butts in the dirt !
I also used for years a Rem 700 in 8mm Rem mag and always shot the barns bullets because this cartridge has so much power using any kind of lead core bullets was asinine stupid
I’m a 28 nosler fan myself. For hunting I don’t have any issues with barrel burning
Knuckle heads that repeat this BS over hunting rifles supposably burning out barrels have no idea this is related to match shooting 1000x of bullets through barrels and hot barrels.
The normal hunter won't ever shoot out a barrel
Best elk cartridge? The one in ur hands when the bull shows up!!!
You guys definitely need to do more shows together!
48ish mark Copper on Top of cup n core.
I dont disagree with those thoughts.. Agree a good bit.
However..I believe as this being on track therrs a bit more to it. BARNES ORGINALS..Shot a good deal of them n still have a supply ofdid the same ..best accuracy start with a clean barrel avoid shooting over regular jackets.
Am thinking your on right track on copper .Gonna add this ..I think the cooper being a wee bit different hardness than gliding metal ,cant get the grip they need when fired on top of others fouling.
I dont think based on liminted it matters with certain ones ie Nosler AB then Etips n Winchesters Deer Sesason then Copper Impact.
I also think it matters between Coppers ie one brand to another for same reasons. Difference in alloy one to another.
Lets not forget diffrrences in barrels as well.
You 2 guys are likely in a better postion than I to shoot n find out.!!!!!!
I mentioned the Win Deer Season n Copper Impact
Late Uncles 350 Didnt matter with the factory 150 same for 1 my 06s cant say that on anothet stacked 2 then junk on the 3 to 6 Copper .
Tried some TTSX loads in 223 then Some GMXs total junk with them.
A good bit frustrating all the way around .
One reason been cementing a good deal when this comes up.
And still havent found out IF the so called Coppers ie Win Impact, Remington Core Lockt Copper n Cut for a couple are actually 100% copper or if gliding metal same as there jackets.
If my liminted above with the Win n lesser range session with Etip on top of ABs
Is correct n if these others are same material as there companies cup n core.. The answer could / would save a good bit of frustration n $. As well as there junk stay away from them ..Ie Impacts or GMX( Cx) vs power points n Interlocks to the seasonal ,crap a box of x 150s n lets go..( There still plenty of them)
Of course Remington Hornady Winchester Norma Could send mes a few boxes of each type ammo n I will find ..
😂😂
Reason I said tou guys are likely better suited to find out.😉
I may be able to clear up one of your questions... I believe that (at least initially) Barnes has/had a patent on using pure copper in bullets. So most everything else has traditionally been an alloy. Whether the same alloy as a given company uses for it's jacketed bullets, who knows.
@@BackcountryHuntingPodcastI believe I heard on a Hornaday podcast that GMX was pure copper and they made CX as an alloy for some reason, I think it dealy with fouling issues better. Was their episode on the CX.
So I was guessing your answers before and I went 2 for 3. Mr Ron threw me off as I thought he would be the Jack Conner 270 crowd
338 Win Mag or 340 Weatherby. Meat goes into Freezer!
The best elk cartage is 30.06 270 but that depends on the person thanks for sharing
🤠 You Won't Get Any Argument From Me, As I Have Taken My Fair Share of Big Bull Elk With Both!
Well said
Well said
What suppressor would you recommend for a Browning X-Bolt Western Hunter Long Range with a 24" barrel in 6.5 PRC? Anything I select is going to make a 30"+ barrel.
I really enjoyed this episode, thank you!
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it... Sorry about the fuzzy video and audio. Tech glitch that we didn't catch soon enough.
I agree. First time watching this 'cast. Nicely presented. These guys have done a few, it is obvious. Fun. Thanks to all. I do appreciate the discussion that included the 'Ethics' of the hunt. I've made the mistakes, and respect those who are willing to teach.
Why is there no mention of the nosler calibers, 26, 28, and 30?
Thanks to watching too many Ron's plumber videos I have a 338 Federal in a 3585. I'm currently working up a load for the 338 Federal in hopes that one day I'll get a chance to do an elk hunt.
You better then looking at hunting areas where shooting is close for the 338 Federal.
On the western side of Oregon where the Roosevelt Elk live all hunting is over Hugh canyons and at times you might walk old logging roads and just by luck catch a heard on the old road but these Elk as extreme wise and spooky to things around them and it is why we call them the Ghost of the forest because they can vanish without a sound and all you see are new tracks and Elk poop.
When spooked these Elk can and often do keep going even over into another canyon to get distance from you.
@lurebenson7722 I've got some loads still trucking over 2000 fps and over 1800 foot pounds of energy at 400yds. That would be my limit even if I had a larger cartridge
I’d go 300 WSM over 300 Win mag, especially backcountry
Someone told me that if Spomer took his hat off he couldn't tell a huntin' lie, is that true?
Great stuff great guys
I really enjoyed this vid thxs JVB
Sounds like a bunch of fellows sitting around the fire, debating the notion of the 243 Winchester is all you need for deer. 😅
Never been a horn hunter love the meat.
How do you feel about a 300 Weather by mag with a surpresser on it. I owned both,.270 swm and 300 weatherby those 2 are my favorite cartiges.
480k video quality? Looks like your camera is old school like Ron! haha
Haha, we did have some troubles uploading this video. However, Ron has his own channel, as I'm sure you know. Check it out if you haven't, however!
None of the elk I have ever taken with the 7mm REM Mag ever took more than three steps . I had always borrowed that rifle , however, I just bought a Weatherby vanguard sporter , wood stock, 7mm Rem mag with the 26 inch barrel …. It will be my last elk rifle.
That Weatherby 7mm RM will do all you ever need to do on elk! Great choice...
Thanks
Fantastic infotainment gentleman!
Enjoyed all 3 perspectives and loved the stories.
Glad you enjoyed it!
300 winmag
Ron what’s the difference in chamber in original 280 ackley and new factory chamber?
Great podcast and info as always. I hardly ever notice these things but having heard you on Ron's channel first, your voice doesn't sound as crisp. Improving audio quality would do wonders to make the experience more enjoyable.
@Hunting4knowledge really sorry about the fuzzy audio. Unfortunately we have ongoing technical difficulties with this specific film. The first upload was the wrong (unedited) file. This one glitched and uploaded as a very low-res version, so both audio and video are poor. We're going to take it down shortly, give it a rest, and try one more time. Hopefully third time's the charm!
7prc or 300 win mag
I have never elk hunt before but my buddy bought a cow 🐄 and it was wild when he got it home and got out we tried to catch it but had no luck so he ask me to hunt it and we will split the meat so I was 683 yards and I used my 30-06 180 grain and it dropped from where it was shot!! If I can go elk hunting I will probably use the same setup it’s more accurate then my 308 and hitting harder then my 6.5!!
Sorry but in Colorado you are not allowed to hunt under someone else's license. It's called party hunting and results in loss of game and hunting points along with large fines.
@@russellkeeling4387I think he meant a domestic cow.
@@russellkeeling4387 Any seasoned hunter would know that story is a complete lie.
30-06 shooting 683 yards Yeah good luck at that !
I was just checking out how my new 1400-yard Leupold range finder works and to see distances liars talk about on these comments, and you know it's a lie.
I was looking over the canyon to see what 1000 yards and it made me believe how any liars are in these video comment.
You see the liar 6.5 Needmoor fanboys talking shooting Elk at 1000 yards or clay pidgins at 1000 yards or this liar and ex con child molester rapist Chuke of Chukes outdoor adventure always claiming shooting brown bears with a 10 mm handgun at 1000 yards!
Since no one brought it up 6.5-300 weatherby magnum
35 WCF 250 gr Speer HotCor bullet. Good for any North American game
How do you feel about a 270 Wsm, with a surpresser
300 Rum 185gr Berger ... Hammer of Thor!
30-30
Best lightweight scope options for an elk rifle?
My favorites would have to be the Leupold VX-3 and VX-5s...
You mean the 6.5 Needs More.
300RUM gets it done!
7 rem mag
338 rpm
i figured ron would say the .22 hornet. then i realized it had more recoil than hes used to.
If you are hunting the Woods: 9,3x62
Bow hunters have upped the ante through skill by getting close to the game. If you are skilled enough to get under 60 yards you can save yourself an hour watching a cartridge discussion and just take your favorite cartridge. The farther the shot the more of a rifleman, the closer the shot the more of a hunter. In MHO, shooting farther than a football field away makes you more of a rifleman and not much of a hunter. 😛
300 Wby 180 accubond @3000fps. Rem 700.
50 BMG is illegal in most states
Actually, it is legal in the majority of the 50 states. But we were just joking around :).
7mm stw
300 WSM.! 👍
300 win mag
JVB you told an absolute lie about suppressors in this episode. In regards to buying a suppressor, "Get one and you're done." Anyone that has a suppressors knows that is a false statement. 😂
😂 Now that's just funny... You do have a point. Once you have one, you really want more!
@@BackcountryHuntingPodcast Currently waiting on the approval of #2 & #3 myself and justifying the need for more. 🤣
225 nosler partisan
Cubby is pissed nobody is paying her any attention
If you get a Suppressor you have to sign away your fourth amendment rights away. I’ve heard that the feds need no search warrant to search your home and vehicle. Is this true. I have nothing to hide in my home but nobody will search my home,car,office or the farm without a search warrant! That’s my fourth amendment right. That’s why I haven’t bought one because that is what my local dealer told me who is a Class lll dealer. Is this true? I don’t mind the tax and would like to try one but I’ve always heard this. Thanks
I think you may be a little misinformed. If you had a Class 3 FFL license like your dealer, your home and work area that you use for transfers could be searched. But just having a suppressor doesn't take away the rights your amendments give you.
@@BackcountryHuntingPodcast I hope this is true. I would like to know for sure. You don’t sound 💯 sure yourself. Is there a statue, or law in black & white that says one way or another? I’ve looked and can’t find it either way.
The dog whining and no marks breaks on cartridges kinda drove me nuts
@bep357 yeah... sorry about that! We actually had a perfect storm of trouble with this episode. Anxious dog and no relief; compromised audio and footage that saved as low-res... really unfortunate but it was such a good conversation we decided to publish it anyway! Thanks for hanging in there.