Story of the Toxic Poker Rivalry between Daniel Negreanu and Annie Duke

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  • čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
  • The fact that Annie Duke and Daniel Negreanu don't like each other is one of the worst kept secrets in poker. Yet, what most don't grasp is the depth of their longstanding poker rivalry. This is the story of the decade long poker rivalry between Daniel Negreanu and Annie Duke.
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    0:00 The History
    1:30 The First Feud
    4:04 Second Encounter
    9:42 Third Confrontation
    13:25 Round Four
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  • @PokerBounty
    @PokerBounty  Před 7 měsíci +14

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    • @TonyEnglandUK
      @TonyEnglandUK Před 7 měsíci

      just show the video and hush, that commentary was painful

    • @skinnie2838
      @skinnie2838 Před 6 měsíci

      If the word "toxic" is in your vocabulary. You are soft, as f

  • @billywestom
    @billywestom Před 7 měsíci +444

    My first World Series was 2005. I was in a $1500 event and moved into Annie’s table. She busted, and Negreanu ended up filling her old seat. Once he found out it was her old seat, he made a grossed-out gasp and pulled sanitary wipes out of his backpack and wiped down the rail and chair😂. It was a weird and memorable moment for a first timer with the pros lol.

    • @narutoinwwe3
      @narutoinwwe3 Před 7 měsíci +12

      That’s great! 😂😂

    • @timcross2510
      @timcross2510 Před 7 měsíci +18

      That's not mean...ITS FUNNY

    • @resurection96
      @resurection96 Před 7 měsíci +8

      hahah that's great

    • @jamiehammond7401
      @jamiehammond7401 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Lol

    • @EGarrett01
      @EGarrett01 Před 7 měsíci +19

      He said once (IIRC) that she takes her shoes off and sits on her feet in the chair, so that might be why.

  • @smith077906
    @smith077906 Před 7 měsíci +551

    Calling Howard a legit businessman is like calling Colonel Sanders a war veteran

    • @jacobsanders2861
      @jacobsanders2861 Před 7 měsíci +33

      Woah woah woah. Easy on the chicken man!

    • @rohieram724
      @rohieram724 Před 7 měsíci +22

      Wasn't he one of those who was involved in a crooked online poker website?

    • @Ehdidnxkd
      @Ehdidnxkd Před 7 měsíci +5

      LOL

    • @jukebox1138
      @jukebox1138 Před 7 měsíci +22

      Colonel sanders served in the military and was part of the second occupation of Cuba from 1906-1909.

    • @robertbeuck7556
      @robertbeuck7556 Před 7 měsíci +5

      "Hey ! They don't call me the Colonel 'cause I'm some dumbass Army guy"
      - Homer Simpson

  • @Colechamdiceman
    @Colechamdiceman Před 6 měsíci +105

    Daniel is known for having a pretty impeccable ability to read people... And it seems he read her pretty well

  • @frankfriel1511
    @frankfriel1511 Před 7 měsíci +218

    Annie Duke and Howard Lederer both proved to be despicable human beings after the early controversies surrounding online poker and their involvements in cheating, stealing and essentially making it untenable for anyone to play on the sites they endorsed. They unfortunately got Chris Ferguson caught up in the mess as well. Not that Chris deserves any less hostility from the poker community.

    • @artful1967
      @artful1967 Před 7 měsíci +15

      I wouldn't give her the time of day. SHe, however, would sell it to you then steal it back

    • @jacksparrow3490
      @jacksparrow3490 Před 7 měsíci +11

      All of them benefited from it.. even ivey

    • @dashx1103
      @dashx1103 Před 6 měsíci

      "There cousins, identical cousins all the way ... one pair of matching bookends, different as night and day!"

    • @horsecockexpress7612
      @horsecockexpress7612 Před 6 měsíci

      annie howard and daniel are all prolific losers

    • @Mr_Dopey
      @Mr_Dopey Před 6 měsíci +4

      They're siblings aren't they?

  • @Cap10VDO
    @Cap10VDO Před 7 měsíci +159

    Sooo...this public feud all started when DN commented about an unnamed female player's bad behavior. Then HOWARD outed Annie as the unnamed female, while claiming to be defending her? Nice move, Perfesser.

    • @luishenriquez8824
      @luishenriquez8824 Před 6 měsíci +25

      Thank god someone said exactly what I was thinking 🧐

    • @algoner4421
      @algoner4421 Před 4 měsíci +9

      I thought I had missed something too. Lol. Daniel kept her private, and then Howard names her and calls Daniel out .....precursor of how Howard really was? 🤔

  • @Nash9r
    @Nash9r Před 7 měsíci +109

    Hard to imagine she did not know about Howard's scam

    • @williamgullett5911
      @williamgullett5911 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Of course she knew. At least that’s how I would bet on it

    • @Sharkygames811
      @Sharkygames811 Před 7 měsíci +2

      her bf won ahuge torny just found this she denies being in chat wtf. Im not sure if this is same torny. I just found this post. To people saying there is no "proof" of Annie cheating, her boyfriend was using her account and she continually denied knowing who the user was in her commentary for the final table of that 1k tournament. She even goes out of her way to say, "Who could this unknown be?" multiple times. It was her boyfriend who took down a 1k tournament on a website that was proven to be fraudulent and she denies even knowing who the guy is(maybe because people would put, 2 and 2 together? which makes her come out looking worse for denying it)

    • @royearl1094
      @royearl1094 Před 6 měsíci

      she was in with russ hamilton also on ub .she stole there stole here stole everywhere .she probably just drew at everything like a fish cause we were paying for it on ft .fher

  • @rickwren7474
    @rickwren7474 Před 7 měsíci +145

    As someone who was defrauded out of thousands in the Full Tilt collapse, I come down hard on against the crook, Howard, and his crooked sister.

    • @mattcoffee1269
      @mattcoffee1269 Před 7 měsíci +20

      i lost $84, and it still hurts.......

    • @johnskrb
      @johnskrb Před 7 měsíci +6

      Please detail how you were defrauded out of thousands in the FT collapse. We were all made whole after the purchase, and there would've never been a problem if the feds had not shut down the site. We should all be mad at the feds.

    • @mattcoffee1269
      @mattcoffee1269 Před 7 měsíci

      i never got my $84, you are mistaken.......
      @@johnskrb

    • @ladiesman2222003
      @ladiesman2222003 Před 7 měsíci +17

      ​@@johnskrbFull tilt owners were using players funds. They were taking money that wasnt theirs. The fact that pokerstars eventually made players whole doesnt change the fact that their money was stolen by full tilt ownership.

    • @johnskrb
      @johnskrb Před 7 měsíci

      @@ladiesman2222003 They did not have the player funds separate from operating funds, but the site was still solvent. It's track towards insolvency started when they still allowed US players to continue to play and credit with a "deposit" even though FT could not always complete the financial withdrawal from US accounts. FT had started to execute / complete those back transactions when they feds shut them down. So, the US fed UIGEA illegally (i.e., they had no legal right to stop me from gambling) caused the first problem, and then they stepped in to stop FT from getting around their restrictions, which is what they really cared about (they did not care about protecting me and you).

  • @DUHPAWZ2579
    @DUHPAWZ2579 Před 7 měsíci +101

    First of all Annie and Howard are brother and sister and they ruined they're own reputations by stealing money off people Daniel seen it years before

    • @normheske6404
      @normheske6404 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Strange that the video makes no mention that Howard is her brother. Does he not know?

    • @RR-yr4sd
      @RR-yr4sd Před 24 dny

      Did Annie steal from people? it all sounds like she just slightly annoyed people despite this hit piece.

    • @DUHPAWZ2579
      @DUHPAWZ2579 Před 24 dny

      @@RR-yr4sd yes on the show she had

    • @RR-yr4sd
      @RR-yr4sd Před 24 dny

      @@DUHPAWZ2579 Hi. what show?

    • @DUHPAWZ2579
      @DUHPAWZ2579 Před 23 dny

      @@RR-yr4sd 👀 it up just google it

  • @jenkinsljenkinssquire9137
    @jenkinsljenkinssquire9137 Před 7 měsíci +45

    That's classic that Howard wrote a scathing letter to Daniel and this is the guy that scammed people. Always easier to point out faults in others.

    • @rohieram724
      @rohieram724 Před 7 měsíci

      How is Howard doing these days? Poker News says that Daniel is the 7th richest poker player in America with a net worth of $70 M in poker winnings. They ranked two players ahead of him but they didn't make their fortunes from only poker.

    • @danjtams
      @danjtams Před 6 měsíci

      Howard is Annie’s brother so that’s why he did it.

    • @rohieram724
      @rohieram724 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@danjtams he is a thief!

  • @dawsonje
    @dawsonje Před 7 měsíci +38

    Funny that the “esteemed members” were ferguson and Lederer. Two of the most hated people in all of poker

    • @seanof30306
      @seanof30306 Před 7 měsíci

      To be fair, Ferguson was the only person who'd profited off of Full Tilt to give back all his profits so it could be returned to the players.
      It was easy for him to do so; Ferguson's richer than god from software he's written, but Phil Gordon's even richer and he didn't give any money back.

    • @sc0mo786
      @sc0mo786 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Hated now, but revered back then. Before everyone found out about their scam.

    • @thecocktailian2091
      @thecocktailian2091 Před 6 měsíci

      Too bad about Jesus. He got in bed with some bad people. They brought an otherwise good guy down.

    • @xavierharding8938
      @xavierharding8938 Před 6 měsíci

      @@sc0mo786 Lederer always seemed like a huge POS, Ferguson seemed cool tho.

    • @jeremiahOz
      @jeremiahOz Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@sc0mo786True, it wasn’t just about the scam and the impact to their customers, it practically hosed online poker as we knew it.

  • @Oheeeoh
    @Oheeeoh Před 7 měsíci +103

    Hard to imagine anyone wanting to buy Annie Duke's book.

    • @dbcooper206
      @dbcooper206 Před 7 měsíci +4

      it was actually good..wasnt specifically about poker tho

    • @dc7468
      @dc7468 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Makes for good kindling in a fireplace.

    • @dcollier7239
      @dcollier7239 Před 7 měsíci

      Not me!

    • @K.I.N.G.69
      @K.I.N.G.69 Před 7 měsíci

      Whats wrong with people who buy Book? some people just want to get knowledge dude, everybody have experience that worth to learn for, smart people learn from everything and everyone, average people only learn from their own experience, while dumb people already think they are doesn't need to learn anymore.

    • @K.I.N.G.69
      @K.I.N.G.69 Před 7 měsíci

      I know from your comment you probably doesn't like Annie Duke, but you use Book as a way of showing dislike, is kinda telling everybody that you dislike someone who make progress by reading a Book or aquiring knowledge.

  • @scottpaprocki2398
    @scottpaprocki2398 Před 7 měsíci +68

    Daniel was definitely ahead of the curve on this one.

  • @SerErryk
    @SerErryk Před 7 měsíci +64

    There's something about Annie I don't trust. I don't know what it is, but it's always been a gut feeling.

    • @valuablesandwich
      @valuablesandwich Před 7 měsíci +29

      Maybe the fact that her maiden name is Lederer

    • @Lybrel
      @Lybrel Před 7 měsíci +8

      +1 on the relation to Howard Lederer. RIP my Full Tilt balance.
      Her ghoulish makeup scheme doesn't help either

    • @jerrygarcia4390
      @jerrygarcia4390 Před 7 měsíci +18

      She and her brother should be in prison

    • @EmperorNerox
      @EmperorNerox Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@jerrygarcia4390not really , they didn't do anything to warrant that.

    • @INYB
      @INYB Před 7 měsíci +8

      ​@@EmperorNeroxThey literally used their poker site as a ponzi scheme. Theirs should be in jail.

  • @cforte0423
    @cforte0423 Před 7 měsíci +14

    So Danial takes the high road and doesn’t name the female then Howard names her and blames Daniel for being petty. WTF?

    • @danjtams
      @danjtams Před 6 měsíci

      True, but again, Howard and Annie are brother and sister so that’s why he stuck up for her so vehemently.

  • @seanof30306
    @seanof30306 Před 7 měsíci +164

    No data to back this up, but I dealt for a living for over 15 years and played with some small success. Based on my experiences, I've come to believe the incidence of narcissism among professional poker players has to be tremendously higher than the population at large, and in my opinion, this feud is a perfect example of two toxic narcissists going at each other and thinking people care.
    Of the two, I definitely think Annie Duke is much worse. I have real-time experience with her, and in my opinion, she's just as crooked and entitled as Negreanu says she is.
    Daniel can be extremely hypocritical, though. When Daniel was so openly critical of Howard Lederer after the Full Tilt debacle, I agreed with every word he said, BUT in the months and years after, I noticed Daniel doesn't hold friends to anywhere near the same standard. He often defends them in equally shady circumstances; for example when Eric Lindgren flat-out stole a million bucks from Chris Ferguson. 15+ years later, Lindgren still hasn't paid it back, and Negreanu still insists it's Full Tilt's bookkeeping department's fault. Lindgren knew Ferguson agreed to loan him a million bucks, Full Tilt accidentally wired him the million bucks twice, and he never gave the extra million back. Never paid the other million back, either.
    During the poker boom I was always amazed that so many people were lining up to blow all these "poker pros", treating them like rockstars when so many of them are crooks, thieves and con artists.

    • @LordSStorm
      @LordSStorm Před 7 měsíci +7

      Well that is what rockstars are.

    • @peppergrand1072
      @peppergrand1072 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Did full tilt poker pay anyone back? The money that was in accounts when the online site was shut down.

    • @vincentsperrazza5926
      @vincentsperrazza5926 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@peppergrand1072 Pokerstars bought FTP and yes everyone who was in the know and took the steps got their FTP accounts paid back. Many never knew about it though.

    • @seanof30306
      @seanof30306 Před 7 měsíci

      @@peppergrand1072 I got back around 10 cents on the dollar, I believe before they folded. After Pokerstars bought them out, I got some more back, but nowhere near all of it.
      I never kept a lot of money on there. I played on both Full Tilt and Pokerstars, but always Felt Full Tilt was shady. When I'd call customer service at Pokerstars, I felt like I was dealing with professionals. When I called customer service at Full Titl, it was like talking to somebody in a trailer house in Arkansas.

    • @resurection96
      @resurection96 Před 7 měsíci +3

      hell of a read, thank you for sharing brother😎

  • @rianstanford7286
    @rianstanford7286 Před 7 měsíci +26

    Annie and Howard taking L’s as usual 😂

  • @antzooma
    @antzooma Před 7 měsíci +19

    Howard Lederer lecturing people on being decent ahahaha

  • @matteframe
    @matteframe Před 7 měsíci +62

    this really should be titled 'Story of all the shitty poker behavior Annie Duke has displayed'...

  • @Shipdacheese
    @Shipdacheese Před 7 měsíci +12

    Oh man these sure are some names from the past...Annie Puke and Howard Scamerer.

  • @raymondcaylor6292
    @raymondcaylor6292 Před 6 měsíci +36

    I played with her once at the Bellagio and she didn't act up or act out. She took one bad beat and later drew out on the same guy for all his chips without commentary. I've only played with Daniel once at a WSOP event and he was talkative, friendly and fun from start to finish.

    • @3bettor287
      @3bettor287 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Cool story

    • @davesmith5656
      @davesmith5656 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Sounds to me like Daniel's complaints about Annie (I'm halfway through the video) are not about her hair or make-up or tone of voice, they are about her behavior as a professional poker player. I get the feeling she could hang out on yachts or on rafts - away from the table - and it wouldn't make any difference at all to Daniel. She could bluff a blue streak, and he wouldn't complain. I.e. It's not personal, it is professional, like criticizing a cab driver who drives very badly, and not wanting to be on the same road. These guys aren't playing for $5.00 buy-ins with friends, but even then, guys would shun someone who, for example, peered over at their neighbor's hand.

    • @hewasagudboy9079
      @hewasagudboy9079 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I took Daniel out in a WCOOP event on a lucky river hit and all he said was "Okayyyy" and left lol

  • @hansel2001
    @hansel2001 Před 7 měsíci +15

    You know Annie loses this battle when every female player out there is on Team Negreanu. Annie is as likable as Amy Schumer.

  • @sohsie
    @sohsie Před 7 měsíci +10

    I didn't know Chris Moneymaker was an "old school" player.

  • @BoboMcBooboy
    @BoboMcBooboy Před 6 měsíci +11

    My favorite thing from this whole thing knowing very little about either of these people going in, is Annie writing an "open letter to Pokerstars" - *"...about treating people with respect, and the use of a word that is abusive and demeaning to ALL WOMEN."*
    (Basically trying to get him fired/punished because she didn't like that he called her a mean word, and she wanted to distract and deflect away from any other points Dan was making at that moment...)
    Trying to make sure he's punished for "treating a woman poker player badly" -When he didn't hold back his take, regardless of the fact she's a woman, because that's irrelevant to her character, and the way she acts and behaves...
    Annie LOVES to talk on behalf.of all women, and utilize being a women whenever its convenient for her... As long as it benefits her in some way. Whenever its convenient for her to mention her gender in order to separate herself from her male competitors, usually as a point of pride...
    When somebody points out the hypocrisy in Annie declaring herself "the best *female* poker player, when Annie herself wants to try and make the point "men/women only tournaments" really shoudnt exist, because THAT separates by gender, and it should just be "poker" - not *men/women' poker"- gender is irrelevant to poker... Apparently...
    But then... Why does it matter that Daniel called you a c*nt, and moreso, why would it be any more or less demeaning because youre a "women poker player"? So you can demean him, and she can even call him a c*nt if she wanted with this logic, but if HE says that to HER, according to her, it's essentially the equivalent of the "N" word when used towards any woman... And she's a woman don't forget...
    All the sudden she gets to MAGICALLY invoke the power of a made up army of "the vast majority" of the 4+/- billion other women in the world, to defend eachothers honour or some shit...
    "Abusive and demeaning to all women" lmfao... Im pretty sure he was talking DIRECTLY TO YOU, and NOBODY else.
    Didn't call *any* other woman that word in this case...
    Once again, when its convenient to bring up her gender to separate herself, and especially as a way to put herself above others, there's NO hesitation or second thoughts... When others treat her like they would any other male competitor (which she claims she wants...) Especially treating her how they do, when she acts the way she does, LORD have mercy! You just did a FEMALE poker player wrong!
    Even tho its not wrong apparently if its a male...? It's worse? Ok Annie. SO clear to see through the type of person she is, and its exactly who Daniel said she was time after time after time...

  • @overnightdelivery
    @overnightdelivery Před 7 měsíci +22

    All these dramatic stories were perfect to cover up the fact that all these offshore poker websites are complete scams.

    • @dbix11
      @dbix11 Před 7 měsíci

      i got that feeling with Full Tilt poker before they were shut down. I forgot what it was called at the time but i turned 100 dollars into 5000 using their rapid seating game, it was fucking nuts. It took FOREVER to withdrawl my money, they had me go through hoops but i eventually got the check. They wanted me to keep playing and give it all back. I knew id never run that hot again and decided to eject.
      Long story short, got my money after like a 6 month ID verification process. Full Tilt went belly up less than a year later.

    • @royearl1094
      @royearl1094 Před 6 měsíci

      check this out i put 100 in at bodog bovada whatever its called this week .i played that 100 for 4 months on there and the nba finally got me .i played over 100 sit in gos 100 head up matches all for 5.00 . .also i never heard of anyone cashing out on there .hey i lived off suckers playing cards for 45 years so i know when its a cold deck because ive done it myself oops

    • @luishenriquez8824
      @luishenriquez8824 Před 6 měsíci

      Thank you! I played something called Global Poker and I was up a few hundred ( I know it’s
      Not a lot of money) but last one hundred and only put a total of 40$ into it. I was playing small tournaments to pass my time at work as a programmer. One day I tried logging in and it wouldn’t let me! I went to the help section and all I ever got was an email basically telling me that my own account is permanently locked out because I accidentally logged back in on another tab and they said someone hacked it. I told them it was me and I didn’t mean to do that, I know it’s a rookie mistake but they never got back to me. I tried multiple times and now they just get to keep my 100$ bucks and won’t even email back at all about it. Sad to say the least. What a dam scam.

    • @dunweyweydum
      @dunweyweydum Před 3 měsíci

      Seems monitizied gane play computerized sites are All shady given their algorithms > the future of AI

  • @drakecoleman9364
    @drakecoleman9364 Před 7 měsíci +32

    5:58 you said Tony revealed his two aces, which changes the entire subject there. Tony did not reveal his hand, he mucked them. Thats why what she did was wrong. You made it seem like she grabbed her own mucked cards. I had to rewind the video a few times to figure out the problem by reading the post and ignoring your talk.

    • @nicholi2789
      @nicholi2789 Před 7 měsíci +9

      Yeah i noticed that too. Totally changes the context

    • @baseballsux2
      @baseballsux2 Před 7 měsíci +3

      I noticed that as well. You said he “revealed”, but the post said he “said”. Not the same thing at all.

  • @johntrucano8186
    @johntrucano8186 Před 7 měsíci +28

    "King and Queen of Poker Hall of Shame". Couldn't have said it better. Their careers have been littered with scandal for how long, at least two decades? I used to admire them both as great players, but they just epitomize the seedy side of the poker world.

  • @ronb8052
    @ronb8052 Před 7 měsíci +9

    In my opinion, neither Annie Duke nor her brother Howard Lederer should be allowed to enter any poker room. When you read about Epic Poker and Full Tilt, it's obvious their morals are in the toilet. It's no coincidence they're brother and sister. Negreanu is right.

  • @taklfarms2575
    @taklfarms2575 Před 17 dny +5

    Obviously the kid is MUCH better. It's not even a debate

  • @GO-TAXI-NO-UBER
    @GO-TAXI-NO-UBER Před 7 měsíci +12

    I worked at the Mirage poker room in 1984 to 1987. I never met Daniel but I did see Annie and Howard and she was not a very nice person at all Howard was decent but didn’t really see much of him but she was not very nice at all. !!

  • @breakit46
    @breakit46 Před 6 měsíci +3

    That Full Theft logo grinds on Howards soul for infinity.

  • @odysseusnissan
    @odysseusnissan Před 7 měsíci +24

    Daniel totally won that war and paints a great poker Hall of Shame visual with Howard and Annie.

  • @iIliterati
    @iIliterati Před 7 měsíci +54

    I met and played with Annie one time when I was a 21, and she was a complete asshole to me and aggressive towards nearly everyone at the table.
    She genuinely came across as a horrible person to be around.
    I completely side with Daniel on this one.

    • @R4MM57EIN
      @R4MM57EIN Před 7 měsíci

      Why ppl didnt tell her to stfu & no1 cares the diswashers opinnion or go back to kitchen ?

    • @dashx1103
      @dashx1103 Před 6 měsíci +4

      I met Annie one time in Vegas during a sit-and-go at the Flamingo. She distracted me at the table and then her identical twin grabbed all my chips and ran! I couldn't believe it. That is the last time I ever trusted identical twins.

    • @tophercabba
      @tophercabba Před 3 měsíci

      @@dashx1103 dumb story even if it was true , would be no point in stealing ur chips in a sit in go as they would be tourny chips and have no cash out value lol

    • @dashx1103
      @dashx1103 Před 3 měsíci

      @@tophercabba You missed the subtext and premise of the comment. It was a joke.

    • @1dash133
      @1dash133 Před 18 dny +1

      @@dashx1103 Yep. People need an emoji (or two) these days to get the message.

  • @undergreenthunder8037
    @undergreenthunder8037 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Good video I was expecting it to end with her involvement with full tilt though.

  • @RecoveredRidleyTruther
    @RecoveredRidleyTruther Před 6 měsíci +8

    Her name is forever tainted with her cheat brother... Negreanu's name is forever a legend and respectful great for the beautiful/terrible game of Poker ❤😂

  • @sachsenschlachter6401
    @sachsenschlachter6401 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Imagine you have 2 kids: 1 is Howard and 2nd one is Annie. Good God what have I done?

  • @Wutever
    @Wutever Před 7 měsíci +6

    i just think of joan rivers basically calling her hitler on the apprentice lol.

  • @garybyoosey3163
    @garybyoosey3163 Před 7 měsíci +16

    There is no way I'm letting anyone look at my cards at a poker table for any reason, unless I'm required to do so.

    • @slowery43
      @slowery43 Před 5 měsíci

      and not a sole cares Princess, this isn't all about you... no one cares what you do

    • @durrantalan
      @durrantalan Před 5 měsíci

      I think you meant “soul”…
      Unless you were deliberately referring to the bottom of a foot.

  • @TechnoBeatz
    @TechnoBeatz Před 7 měsíci +5

    Very nice content. Wish there were more like this on CZcams.

  • @brucelee5576
    @brucelee5576 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Anna Duke made most of her poker money from the mid 80s to late 90s , she’s just mad the game has pass her up.

  • @moedanglez
    @moedanglez Před 7 měsíci +31

    Duke is a perfect example of a big fish in a small pond getting eaten alive by a new wave of young, smart players. Daniel is a perfect example of adapting to a new, tougher game and finding success.

  • @kenadler777
    @kenadler777 Před 20 dny +2

    Glad to see that many here know the truth about Howard and Annie. I don't always agree with Daniel but he's sure right about Annie.

  • @No0utlet
    @No0utlet Před 6 měsíci +15

    In the third of Daniel's list of examples of Annie's bad behavior (5:41), the narration explains that Tony "revealed his two Aces" and that "Annie grabbed the folded cards, glanced at them". This is not accurate to the text explanation of the story.
    In the text, the story is that Dan folded, Tony DID NOT show his Aces. He mucked his hole cards while telling Dan that it was Aces. Annie grabbed the mucked winning hole cards (the Aces) and checked whether Tony was telling the truth about it being Aces.

    • @jeremykline6687
      @jeremykline6687 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Specifically reread this one too as I didn’t understand the initial issue. Looking at muck/ hole cards is UNREAL

    • @Funktaro5
      @Funktaro5 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@jeremykline6687 Yeah, I've played poker for a living for most of my adult life and I've never heard of anyone ever doing that. That's crazy and totally unacceptable.

  • @damncows
    @damncows Před 6 měsíci +5

    Duke is Lederer's sister . Not surprisingly she has her own cheating scandal .
    Also not surprising Daniel bumped shoulders with her.

  • @----.__
    @----.__ Před 5 měsíci +11

    For Daniel to dislike someone they've got to be pretty debased. He seems to get along with everyone, and is generally a pretty pleasant person.

    • @Shad0wack
      @Shad0wack Před měsícem

      Stop believing everything you watch on TV

    • @----.__
      @----.__ Před 14 dny

      @@Shad0wack Thinking everyone but you believes everything on TV and is an NPC is the most NPC way to think! If Daniel was a trash human it would have surfaced long ago. People talk.

  • @artful1967
    @artful1967 Před 7 měsíci +10

    The rivalry between one world class poker play...and her.

  • @MarkThevenot
    @MarkThevenot Před měsícem +4

    Howard outed Annie Duke, then blamed Daniel for making the feud public?

  • @hurleycapetown8420
    @hurleycapetown8420 Před 7 měsíci +23

    Scary that nearly 20 years ago i got extremely drunk with Jesus and Howard in London,i was on my way to Vegas to play poker and ran into them at a Casino in London and it was like the highlight of my life at that point(they were poker royalty at that point especially Ferguson),i still have the photos on Facebook,scary how time flies and also how little you know about people.

  • @maryswann7623
    @maryswann7623 Před 5 měsíci +3

    In 2007, I was having a drink with friends at a bar and watching poker on tv. I had admiration for Annie at that time. A guy sitting by us told a story of a night drinking in Vegas and going home with her. I believed it.

    • @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool
      @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool Před 5 měsíci +2

      Until I saw this video, I would have said what a lucky guy he was. I had a massive crush on Annie Duke. Not sure why, just something about her did it for me. But now I can't believe that she has been such a POS to others.

    • @danstevens6515
      @danstevens6515 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Must have been a lot of drinks

  • @wdiddy1
    @wdiddy1 Před 7 měsíci +7

    I have always not liked Annie, just her personality and attitude from the little I've seen. This video just shows I was right about her.

  • @janeburns7673
    @janeburns7673 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I normally start with a top water bait or spinner. If the fish are not active I work the deep weed edge with a wacky worm.

  • @sportspokerguy3506
    @sportspokerguy3506 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Wow a smart woman villainizes an even smarter man, cheats people out of money, and still thinks she’s a victim. Sadly, I’m not surprised. 💁‍♀️☕️

  • @Super_Flea
    @Super_Flea Před 6 měsíci +3

    I love how in the early 2000’s all these filthy thieves were portrayed as all knowing poker superheroes when in fact they’re frauds .

  • @evelynroadmedia9415
    @evelynroadmedia9415 Před 7 měsíci +24

    Annie Duke has a history of being a bully and @sshole, especially towards the recreational and newer players, she has that 'entitled' and 'i am above you' way about her. So I have no problem with Daniel on this situation, I mean it is obvious she hates being put in her place, and this highlights that fact of she thinks she above everyone else.

  • @naswiipp
    @naswiipp Před 7 měsíci +9

    Who would flirt with her? She looks like Grimace from McDonald's

  • @user-wi4rk1ov9d
    @user-wi4rk1ov9d Před 7 měsíci +1

    I GET MORE EXITED OF POKER BOUNTYS NEW EPISODES THEN ANY SHOW ON NETFLIX!!

  • @Ac0ustics0ul
    @Ac0ustics0ul Před 5 měsíci +2

    Grabbing someone's mucked wholecards?? OH HELL NAH

  • @justsomeguy6474
    @justsomeguy6474 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I had no idea they had beef!

  • @OldManBadly
    @OldManBadly Před 5 měsíci +4

    The Lederer "poker family" have proven to be bungholes up and down the list. Anyone from the era will never forget the black friday scandal, and finding out that they had their fingers in cash drawer, taking from the players. Howard, Annie, and others including Chris Ferguson had their careers destroyed by their own bad acts.
    I am with Daniel on this one. Both Howard and Annie are pieces of work, the poker world is much better off without both of them. Too bad so many people had to lose money with them.

  • @zorskins
    @zorskins Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great video my man

  • @jeff-hh9mc
    @jeff-hh9mc Před 3 měsíci +1

    “Cup boy.” Never heard that one before.

  • @OneOut1
    @OneOut1 Před 7 měsíci +9

    I remember Dsniel complaining about he putting he bare feet upon the cloth chairs because they were stinky sweaty feet on the chairs.
    I feel for him.

  • @davidchodds
    @davidchodds Před měsícem +1

    You forgot to mention the important fact that Howard Lederer is Annie Duke's brother.

  • @Logic-101
    @Logic-101 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Asking a lederer about fair play and proper business activities is hilarious.

  • @iamamish
    @iamamish Před 7 měsíci +10

    5:50 - he didn't 'reveal' his cards, he said what they were. If he had revealed them, there would have been no point in retrieving them from the muck.

    • @itskmillz
      @itskmillz Před 7 měsíci +1

      Lol wow he botched that part of the story, glad I paused and read every transcript instead of relying on the poorly done summary.

  • @ssgsorrels
    @ssgsorrels Před 7 měsíci +17

    The fact that most people only know who Dnegs is should tell you who won this "rivalry"

    • @aix23723
      @aix23723 Před 7 měsíci +8

      You're just not into poker enough if you don't know Annie

    • @suhailal-tashi9740
      @suhailal-tashi9740 Před 7 měsíci

      he said "most"@@aix23723

    • @ssgsorrels
      @ssgsorrels Před 7 měsíci

      @@aix23723 I said most people. Not me.

    • @itskmillz
      @itskmillz Před 7 měsíci

      @@aix23723 I've been playing poker for 19 years and I've "heard of her" but I knew basically nothing other than her name and face and that she is an old school pro. I couldn't tell you a single hand memorable hand with her.

  • @namrog7971
    @namrog7971 Před 4 dny +1

    Annie Duke and her brother Howard Letterer were involved in multiple shady as shit poker ventures that ended up with users losing millions of dollars due to theft. Sure fits right in with the other shady and very specific complaints Daniel had about her. He really is good at reading people.

  • @montanaricky9558
    @montanaricky9558 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I worked the 2006 WSOP, and I just got done dealing a event I went in the back hallway to goto lunch and In a random corner in the dark I saw Shannon Elizabeth’s husband making out with Anne. As I walked by they continued with their high school make out session and all I could think was “how you gonna do that to the American Pie girl.
    There needs to be more interviews with poker dealers on the how poker pros really are. That’s a video.

    • @montanaricky9558
      @montanaricky9558 Před 6 měsíci

      @@dougbarker2227 well she didn’t that’s my point

    • @glendaleon739
      @glendaleon739 Před 4 měsíci +1

      The stories I have dealing to the pros. I always wondered why I couldn't stand Annie on site. She really is hard to like

    • @danstevens6515
      @danstevens6515 Před 3 měsíci

      Her husband must have been blind and deaf

  • @rvoykin
    @rvoykin Před 2 měsíci +1

    I don’t know any of these people personally obviously, but Danielle always seems to be giving back to the community. He gives a ton of free advice online. Everybody wants to be liked to some extent and if you’re in the public eye it benefits you to leverage that I can’t blame somebody for wanting to be more popular or build their brand in their name
    I can blame somebody for cheating and engaging in unfair practices which it sounds like Ani did. At the end of the day if I could pick one to be my friend, it would definitely be Daniel. he seems like a genuine person and I think he cares about this sport

  • @lucianlandry8332
    @lucianlandry8332 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Well after watching that, I'm beginning to think these people might not like each other.

  • @Markcigar1
    @Markcigar1 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Don’t like either one of them🙂

  • @mcdamion
    @mcdamion Před 6 měsíci +2

    Daniel dripping that “Bi**h Please” line…💀 4:34

  • @JOJOMO443
    @JOJOMO443 Před 7 měsíci +3

    You didn't even touch on the Full Tilt scandal that Howard was involved in.

  • @zathras11b53
    @zathras11b53 Před 5 měsíci +2

    At the very end of the video you mentioned Daniel's comment about Annie and Howard and shame, but failed to mention why Howard was included for that. He was involved in the Full Tilt Poker scandal. See, that was easy to explain.

  • @Joel_Powell
    @Joel_Powell Před 3 dny +1

    I don't need someone to tell me a story.

  • @robe8591
    @robe8591 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Daniel is still relevant, Annie Who?

  • @chessbrilliance8783
    @chessbrilliance8783 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Everybody hated Anny Duke in fact.

  • @EGarrett01
    @EGarrett01 Před 7 měsíci +1

    8:37 "I have few secrets if anyway... I been broke. Blew some... (line ends)"

  • @donmasacre4919
    @donmasacre4919 Před 7 měsíci +7

    The interesting thing about those guys like Annie Duke and Lederer is that they used to be considered great when in reality they used to be nits, pure nits.

    • @88mphDrBrown
      @88mphDrBrown Před 7 měsíci +2

      The game was a lot more nitty in general.

    • @johntrucano8186
      @johntrucano8186 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Just like Daniel said about replacing the F with SH, you can do the same with nits if you can replace the N with SH as it certainly applies to them.

  • @jackofallgames3097
    @jackofallgames3097 Před 2 měsíci +2

    And calling Duke famous is a real fkn stretch

  • @FhillipFry
    @FhillipFry Před 4 dny +1

    Lederer's favorite show must be the kardashians

  • @PackyDaggers
    @PackyDaggers Před 6 měsíci +2

    "Renowned members like Chris Ferguson and Howard Lederer". What is this, 2009?

  • @douglaswhite2873
    @douglaswhite2873 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Where are they now?

  • @DanceySteveYNWA
    @DanceySteveYNWA Před 6 měsíci +1

    0:45 THC and Acid gummies emails.😂

  • @jackofallgames3097
    @jackofallgames3097 Před 2 měsíci +2

    So Howard is giving Daniel sht for slandering Duke when he was the one who outed her? What an idiot

  • @bbrinser
    @bbrinser Před 2 měsíci +1

    In my opinion Howards actions are why black Friday ruined online Poker forever.

  • @MrRidingman
    @MrRidingman Před 6 měsíci +2

    Can't say I like either one of them, all of them are full of inflated egos except Doyle Brunson and Eli Elezra. Both gave and commanded respect.

  • @johnjamesleahy4065
    @johnjamesleahy4065 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Waittt number three...she turned over SOMEONE ELSE'S CARDS after the hand was through?! That should totally be some sort of penalty to say the least right??

  • @----.__
    @----.__ Před 14 dny +1

    If the eyes are the gateway to the soul, then why do I see hell when looking at Annie's eyes? She looks like one of the least trustworthy people you could ever have the misfortune to come across.

  • @BalotelliFan713
    @BalotelliFan713 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Might be relevant to state at the beginning that Howard is Annie's brother

  • @rozell2820
    @rozell2820 Před měsícem +1

    I find funny how you paint Daniel as the bad guy, even though Annie is the one doing all the shady actions. Nice work Simp

  • @FloydMaxwell
    @FloydMaxwell Před 2 měsíci +2

    I'm four minutes in and you haven't mentioned that Howard & Annie are brother and sister.

  • @arcticredpanda4598
    @arcticredpanda4598 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Howard Lederer, the Full Tilt mastermind, is turning out to be a real character isn't he.

  • @jasoncook5166
    @jasoncook5166 Před 2 měsíci +1

    A drama like this so often boils down to a popularity contest........but it sure looks to me like the worst thing Negreanu ever did was say that he didn't like Duke. He had a pretty expansive list of reasons - some perhaps petty, some certainly not - and it seemed like the only criticism ever seriously levied against him was that he was maybe being mean.
    Yeah, sorry, unless there's much more to this rivalry, we know who the villain is for sure.

  • @snatchios1
    @snatchios1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    DN's true nature seems to come out when he streams poker. Jekyll and Hyde stuff

  • @lokevoice
    @lokevoice Před 6 měsíci +7

    I agree with Annie on the girls only poker situation (there’s no advantage men have over women in intelligence, there doesn’t need to be a separate event) but side with Daniel on everything else because she does seem insufferable

    • @JoseRamirez-dv5uo
      @JoseRamirez-dv5uo Před 6 měsíci

      ehhh... ther is a massive iq difference, IQ tests prove it, and how many main events have females won? bracelets and all? name a female albert einstein.... tesla.... newton... elon musk? anything? no, u can't, lol... the only iq tests u can point to where males and females r close, is when 10 to 14 years old, when women go thru puberty earlier which gives them an edge, mentally, and physically... remember mone davis? where is she now? o wait, the boys had their growth spurt and she disappeared.

    • @FHRiley-yk9by
      @FHRiley-yk9by Před 6 měsíci +1

      Men do have an advantage in intelligence, specifically when it comes to high thought decision making activities like chess, poker, baccarat, puzzling, trading card games, etc

    • @FHRiley-yk9by
      @FHRiley-yk9by Před 6 měsíci

      The results of high level events in all of these activities prove this. That isn't to say there aren't women doing these things at a high level. Maria Ho, Judit Polgar, etc

    • @lokevoice
      @lokevoice Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@FHRiley-yk9by
      Found the incel

    • @FHRiley-yk9by
      @FHRiley-yk9by Před 6 měsíci

      @@lokevoice you're right. women are just placing worse than men in every conceivable metric in coed activity by choice.

  • @secularspectator
    @secularspectator Před měsícem +1

    Think we all know who's side we are on...

  • @stevet8121
    @stevet8121 Před 7 měsíci +4

    They should take their differences out behind the casino. Any bets on who would win?

    • @EmperorNerox
      @EmperorNerox Před 7 měsíci +3

      Howard vs Daniel? Howards a big dude he'd crush Daniel. Daniela shoulders are barely wider than his head is wide

    • @Simon1985_
      @Simon1985_ Před 7 měsíci +2

      Annie

    • @PokrPro21
      @PokrPro21 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Duke. Daniel is a beta boy especially back during these years.

    • @curthennig9448
      @curthennig9448 Před 7 měsíci

      @@PokrPro21 Please no blood on the sweater!

  • @majorspencer3660
    @majorspencer3660 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Who was the guy with the “Wolves” cap on?

  • @johnjamesleahy4065
    @johnjamesleahy4065 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Not that it matters, but just curious, what state/area did the two of them grow up in? Like I'm curious if they're both from a similar background/N.E.W.S.????