Disney Theory: Who is Belle's Mother?
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One of the longest standing questions we have about Disney's Beauty and the Beast is who is Belle's mother? Today Ben goes over every thing we know about her thus far!
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Super Carlin Gaming hi i love your disney and pixar theorys
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Is that a Welcome to Nightvale picture in the back, or is it something else (the purple eye)?
Super Carlin Gaming The reason most DISNEY princesses mothers have perished is beacuse walts mother died at a younger age :(
I am a huge Disney fan and a couple years ago they came out with a modern version of this movie: Beastly.
Does anyone remember it? it started Vanessa Hudgens. Anyway, in this version the "beast" makes her a green house because of her love for flowers, instead of offering her his library like in the Disney animated one. It didn't hit me until now, but maybe the directors/ producers of Beastly new something that we don't, especially if her mother seemed to love flowers.
Also, in the old folk tale version, when Belles father must leave town for business, Belle asks him to bring her back a simple rose. That could also explain why Belle was so drawn to the Beasts delicate enchanted flower when she first sees it.
Just a thought :) carry on
I'm willing to bet her Mothers Name is Rose.. Why? cause the White and Yellow Flowers above Belle.. are Bell Flowers
Huh
pink beauty
Matt M hmmmm maybe maybe
WHATT IF BELLE'S MOTHER IS ROSE RED??
you could be right Matt M.
The original Beauty and the Beast plot
A wealthy, widowed merchant lives in a mansion with his six children, three sons and three daughters. All his daughters are very beautiful, but the youngest, Beauty, is the most lovely, as well as kind, well-read, and pure of heart; while the two elder sisters, in contrast, are wicked, selfish, vain, and spoiled. They secretly taunt Beauty and treat her more like a servant than a sister. The merchant eventually loses all of his wealth in a tempest at sea. He and his children are consequently forced to live in a small farmhouse and work for their living.
Some years later, the merchant hears that one of the trade ships he had sent off has arrived back in port, having escaped the destruction of its compatriots. He returns to the city to discover whether it contains anything valuable. Before leaving, he asks his children if they wish for him to bring any gifts back for them. The sons ask for weaponry and horses to hunt with, whereas his oldest daughters ask for clothing, jewels, and the finest dresses possible as they think his wealth has returned. Beauty is satisfied with the promise of a rose as none grow in their part of the country. The merchant, to his dismay, finds that his ship's cargo has been seized to pay his debts, leaving him penniless and unable to buy his children's presents.
During his return, the merchant becomes lost in a forest during a storm. Seeking shelter, he enters a dazzling palace. A hidden figure opens the giant doors and silently invites him in. The merchant finds tables inside laden with food and drink, which seem to have been left for him by the palace's invisible owner. The merchant accepts this gift and spends the night there. The next morning, as the merchant is about to leave, he sees a rose garden and recalls that Beauty had desired a rose. Upon picking the loveliest rose he can find, the merchant is confronted by a hideous "Beast" which tells him that for taking his most precious possession after accepting his hospitality, the merchant must die. The merchant begs to be set free, arguing that he had only picked the rose as a gift for his youngest daughter. The Beast agrees to let him give the rose to Beauty, but only if the merchant or one of his daughters will return.
Beauty dines with the Beast in an illustration by Anne Anderson.
The merchant is upset but accepts this condition. The Beast sends him on his way, with wealth, jewels and fine clothes for his sons and daughters, and stresses that Beauty must never know about his deal. The merchant, upon arriving home, tries to hide the secret from Beauty, but she pries it from him. Her brothers say they will go to the castle and fight the Beast, but the merchant dissuades them, saying they will stand no chance against the monster. Beauty then agrees to go to the Beast's castle. The Beast receives her graciously and informs her that she is now mistress of the castle, and he is her servant. He gives her lavish clothing and food and carries on lengthy conversations with her. Every night, the Beast asks Beauty to marry him, only to be refused each time. After each refusal, Beauty dreams of a handsome prince who pleads with her to answer why she keeps refusing him, to which she replies that she cannot marry the Beast because she loves him only as a friend. Beauty does not make the connection between the handsome prince and the Beast and becomes convinced that the Beast is holding the prince captive somewhere in the castle. She searches and discovers multiple enchanted rooms, but never the prince from her dreams.
For several months, Beauty lives a life of luxury at the Beast's palace, having every whim catered to by invisible servants, with no end of riches to amuse her and an endless supply of exquisite finery to wear. Eventually, she becomes homesick and begs the Beast to allow her to go see her family. He allows it on the condition that she returns exactly a week later. Beauty agrees to this and sets off for home with an enchanted mirror and ring. The mirror allows her to see what is going on back at the Beast's castle, and the ring allows her to return to the castle in an instant when turned three times around her finger. Her older sisters are surprised to find her well fed and dressed in finery. Beauty tries to share the magnificent gowns and jewels the Beast gave her with her sisters, but they turn into rags at her sisters' touch, and are restored to their splendour when returned to Beauty, as the Beast meant them only for her. Her sisters are envious when they hear of her happy life at the castle, and, hearing that she must return to the Beast on a certain day, beg her to stay another day, even putting onion in their eyes to make it appear as though they are weeping. They hope that the Beast will be angry with Beauty for breaking her promise and eat her alive. Beauty's heart is moved by her sisters' false show of love, and she agrees to stay.
Illustration by Warwick Goble.
Beauty begins to feel guilty about breaking her promise to the Beast and uses the mirror to see him back at the castle. She is horrified to discover that the Beast is lying half-dead from heartbreak near the rose bushes her father had stolen from and she immediately uses the ring to return to the Beast.
Beauty weeps over the Beast, saying that she loves him. When her tears strike him, the Beast is transformed into the handsome prince from Beauty's dreams. The Prince informs her that long ago a fairy turned him into a hideous beast after he refused to let her in from the rain and that only by finding true love, despite his ugliness, could the curse be broken. He and Beauty are married and they live happily ever after together.
Well that is what came up when I searched the original story. The merchants no sons version is the 1970's version by Robin Mckinley
Afina_Della-Cyra thats too much to read........
not really if you can be bothered
I have that version in a fairytale book and in a different book I have the version with no sons and only daughters. :-) Thank you for going to the trouble to share it!
You should site your work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauty_and_the_Beast. There.
3:23: "Disney LOVES killing off mothers!
Snow whites mom, dead. Cinderellas mom dead, Ariel, Jasmin, Pocahontas, dead, dead and dead. Moana Mulan and Merida all spend the entire movie directly disobeying their parents: don't go in the water *ppttfhffttthh* don't go to war *ppttfhffttthh* be a proper young lady, yeah, sorry mom *ppttfhffttthh* how bout now, your a bear?" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHHHHHHH 😂😂😂😂😂😂XXDDDD I CANT!!!! 😂😂😂😂
Bianca Fiestas So true.
Bianca Fiestas brave also disobeyed
true
lol
I thought Ariel's mom was alive
"Two of three: Mom, Dad, Husband. GO!"
I'm more interested in where and what happened to Beasts parents
In the new "Beauty and the Beast" live-action movie, it's heavily implied that Beast's parents are the King and Queen of France. Disney copied existing portraits of King Louis XIV of France, "the Sun King" (b. 1638 - d. 1715), for Beast's father and a young Beast. A portrait of queen consort Marie Leszczyńska (b. 1703 - d. 1768), the wife of King Louis XV of France, and daughter of King Stanisław I of Poland and Catherine Opalińska (Princess of Poland), was used for Beast's mother. Marie Leszczyńska was married the great-grandson of Louis XIV.
Presumably, if the film is historically accurate, Beast's "true" name would be "Louis, Grand Dauphin (Crown Prince) of France".
It's quite possible that Beast's parents either chose to disown him; purposefully locked him away; and/or were killed in the French Revolution, the latter of which is a popular fan theory regarding how (and why) the Beast was locked away in a castle for so long, and why no one seems to go near the castle at all. In one of my theories, I put forth the idea that Maurice and Belle also live in the "small town, a quiet village" due to the Revolution, in order to go into hiding / protect themselves from the extremist Jacobins.
Cpn. Beartato there's a book called "the beast within" that explains his life
Amber Goldsmith Cool theory, I adopt it now
Daniel Bagang ouat but he became the dark one AND has magic powers or knows magic so idk maybe the parent died like in frozen or they left him because he was a spoiled brat
Daniel Bagang haha OUAT
There's actually a book based on if Belle's mother had cursed the beast, it's called As Old as Time and it's part of the A Twisted Tale series by Liz Braswell. The series is published by Disney.
The more likely reason for roses probably comes back to the original story of Beauty and the Beast which was written by French novelist Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve (Learning to spell that must have been fun) where the Beauty's father is a merchant who was going to get a gift for each of his daughters (he had 6) and Beauty requested a rose, prompting her father to pluck a rose from the Beast's garden and get the plot rolling. They may have initially meant to go closer to that plot and have the Beauty's mother have some connection to roses, thus giving the Beauty some reason to request one seeing as it is kind of a random choice on her part.
Dallas Worth such a good book!
C/Ping this across all comments about this book, as I want to inform people about this information.
To everyone commenting about the book "As Old as Time: A Twisted Tale" by Elizabeth J. Braswell: I was actually the first one to write about the "Belle's mother is the Enchantress" theory on Reddit. I published the theory over a year ago under the username Obversa on r/fantheories. I will be contacting Liz (author of the book) to make sure she did not use any of my content or writing.
My theory is timestamped here as being published in March 2016: www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/3kpf2l/beauty_and_the_beast_belles_mother_is_the/
"As Old as Time" wasn't published until September 6, 2016.
Amber Goldsmith Books take a very long time to write, too long for the seven month time period between your post and the publication of the book. I'm sure the author of Tale as Old as Time did not steal your theory, considering the plot of the book was most likely decided at least a year before the publication date. Not even someone like Mark Twain could finish a book that quickly.
As a writer myself, that's not true or correct. If it were, authors would never meet the deadlines imposed on them by publishers. I wrote a 70,000 word novel manuscript within the span of less than two months. (A novel is any work that is typically around 40,000 words or more.) I am willing to guess that the author wrote what's called a novella, which typically range around 20,000 words. There was ample time for her to write her book based on my Reddit post.
Likewise, I always do extensive online searches before posting any theories to make sure that my content is new and original. I verified that no one else had come up with the same interpretation or idea ("Belle's mother was the Enchantress who cursed the Beast"), at least online, before posting it. Then, all of a sudden, a published author suddenly shows up with "the exact same idea"? I can't tust that she didn't take it, because a lot of my work has been "shared" (i.e. plagiarized by Buzzfeed-like sites) without my permission before.
Amber Goldsmith I find it very hard to believe that a Disney published book would steal from someone's theory on the internet, especially if you weren't the first person to come up with that theory. While my friend never posted their theory, I distinctly remember him telling me this theory almost two years ago now. I even remember him writing an email to someone about it, and that person responded with praise on the intricacy of the theory. I'm not saying you stole his theory, considering that he never posted it publicly, but it has been thought of, and shared.
Even if you came up with the theory before the book was published (and let's just assume the writing process for the book began after your theory was posted) it's not impossible for them to have come up the idea on their own without stealing from you.
If Anna and Elsa's parents are shipwrecked on an island on the way to Rapunzel and Flynn's wedding, and while Ariel is scouring the shipwreck they build a tree house, have a son (Tarzan), are eaten and then he marries Belle's great-great-great-granddaughter, then that means that Frozen, Tangled, Tarzan, The Little Mermaid, and Beauty and the Beast are all connected!!!!!!!
While i'd love these movies to be connected, frozen 2 debunked this possibility. Anna and the others found the ship somewhere in Norway and little mermaid took place in Denmark.
The ship with Tarzan's parents had a British flag on it and while Tarzan takes place after beauty and the beast, the enchantment that was placed upon the beast's staff was broken so no more teapot. If i missed any facts that prove me wrong, you can always say so
@@maartenlaeremans4568 I was gonna say the same thing.
Well... that theory was far fetched
Even though the little mermaid may not be connected you can add Moana in because in a very short clip of the movie you can see the flower that is used to save Repunzel's mother
@@maartenlaeremans4568 But disney confirmed Tarzan was their brother... ;-;
@@karlijn9730 that was a joke
4:43 I love how he spoils it and then says "spoilers". This is literally why this is one of my most favorite CZcams channels. 😁😁😁
there's a book about this called Tale As Old As Time, where the whole premise is 'What if Belle's mother cursed the Beast?'
Melody Tatum I actually finished reading it recently, it's a really great book.
Melody Tatum it is such a good book!!!!!!!!!!
Melody Tatum its on scholadtic order
I always see it at Barnes and Noble but I never buy it.
I just finished reading that. it was so good
"Nope,sorry mom. how 'bout now you're a bear" I'm dead😂😂😂
Arianna Mast literally read this as he said it ,
Oh I was out
Arianna Mast .........you're not alone
Belles mother died from a plague when belle was just a baby
QueenBee Gaming that is the new movie this was made before that
ConnorGameGuy she is referring to the actual story that the animated Disney movie is based off of.
My mom has a book of different fairy tales and in it was that story of beauty and the beast with beauty's father leaving to go to his ships and he asks all of his daughters what they want. The older ones ask for jewelry, fine clothes, and beauty asks for a white rose.
Their father journeys to his ships and found that they were attacked and so he had nothing to take back home to his older daughters. He comes across a castle and is made welcome even though no one seemed to be around.
He then ventures out into the Rose garden and takes a rose for his youngest daughter. The Beast catches him and threatens to lock him away, but the man tells him that his daughter had wished for a rose.
The Beast then tells him to go back to his home and bring the daughter back to be his prisoner. The father agrees, but then goes back on his word, but when the older daughters hear about that they tell their father that She should go back since that was her wish. Beauty agrees and uses the magic ring that the Beast gave her dad to travel back to his castle after being with his daughters for three days. The rest is coincides similarly to Disney movie.
QueenBee xx if her mother died when belle was a baby then why in the movie there is a picture of belle and her mom and belle as a KID if her mother died when belle was a baby the shouldn't the picture be with belle as a BABY not a KUD?
I ment kid
QueenBee xx yeah I was confused about that bit also
As for the book that Belle is reading, it's basically her story.
Angel Albano and maybe his dream come true by her mother? What if she never died? And she make a wish? 😱
Yes, they made a video on that.
Okay! Here is one theory that I have always wondered about... Why doesn't Cinderellas slipper changes back when the clock strikes midnight?
Spichinka that one is the most common. They all had to be together but the one shoe got lost. That's the biggest belief.
the fairy godmother let her keep them as a gift
I always figured it was because she was barefoot, so the shoes didn't have anything to transform back into (except maybe air).
in the live action you'll note cinderella takes of her shoes and the fairy godmother makes her an entirely new pair ..it's basically the only item (s) not transformed but made...she walks home in the rain barefoot holding the glass slipper that didn't fall off
Cassia McGee It has to be connected to her.
The new beauty and the beast movie is showing Belle and the Beast's past
Alfie Lopez yaaaayyyy!!!
Alfie Lopez yes
Yes!
yes
please, do tell.
Belles mother is in the live action movie. They left cause Belles mother died from plague so they left because the rest of the family didn't want to catch the plauge
"Mom, Dad, Husband.... Go!"
Loved this!!!!!😂😂😂😂
I've been watching the animated Beauty and the Beast again because i love it so much, and a question popped into my head.
How does Gaston know where Beast's castle is? Even Maurice doesn't know the way back after stumbling upon it, and Belle got lost going back to the village when she ran away from it.
So how does Gaston manage to get there within one song? The townspeople are 'counting on Gaston to lead the way'. Why didn't they get lost going to a place they obviously had no clue existed?
The answer? What if Gaston and Prince Adam were friends growing up, and Gaston would come to the castle to play with the Prince?
There are quite some similarities between the two from their arrogant attitude to the way they treat those they think are beneath them, Gaston with Lefou, the Prince with his servants, to even the way they treat women.
They even wear their hair the exact same way!
Its just a theory, but it would explain how he knew how to get there, and how he went running up the stairs to find Beast. how did he know he wasn't in the kitchen? no, instead he looks in maybe 2 other rooms before making his way to the Beast's room.
He couldn't possibly know Beast would be in there unless he'd been there before.
And, when Beast is about to throw him off the castle roof and Gaston pleads for his life, Beast looks like he's remembering Belle giving her life for her father, but what if he's realizing the man he's about to kill is his friend from his childhood?
That's my theory anyways
I had long thought it was weird timing too, but I have a few ideas.
1) I think the song was meant to be theatrical representation, rather than literal. Meant to display a mindset, not an action. That's the frequent purpose for songs in musicals. So it could've been longer. Villager #24: I will follow the Hero through weeks of snow/marsh/whatever if it means my family is safe!
2) Its conceivable that Gaston would've taken a shorter time than Maurice. Both times maurice traveled to the castle, he was lost and then carried away by someone/thing else. Meanwhile, Gaston is a Hunter by trade, so he would be very familiar with the lands surrounding the village. Whether he had known about the castle the entire time could be one way or another. I don't think it would have mattered to him at all until Belle.
love you're idea behind this but also he had the enchanted mirror so maybe that gave direction. but I like your theory better!!!
It's a large castle within a couple day's travel that was inhabited by humans only ten years ago. There are probably merchants and farmers in the town who used to make deliveries to the castle. Some townsfolk might even have relatives who worked in the castle.
Pirate Paige He had the mirror to tell/show him
SilentBudgie
based on the new life-action version that just came out, the enchantress also put a spell on the people in town to make them forget.
IN THE SONG "Belle"
Monsieur Jean: good morning, belle!
Belle: good morning monsieur jean! have you lost something again? (referring to Ms. Potts)
J: Well i believe i have, the problem is, i cant remember what.
so one of the team (probably production team or something not sure) member cleared that part as to how the enchantress put a spell on them too.
some part in the movie when the townsfolk just arrived at the castle, someone says something about how this castle seems fimiliar. as when the spell was broken, the townsfolk hugged the people who has been in the castle for 10 years.
p.s. english isnt my first language! sorry for grammar and any english speaking related mistakes.
what do you mean the curse kept the beast from aging? The Rose dies on his 21 birthday, he's only 21 when belle breaks the spell. Also! The spell was cast on them for 10 years. That means the prince was only 11 when the enchantress cursed everyone in the castle!
Belle and beast are probably around the same age come to think of it
I've even seen a video on how unfair it is to curse a child who is alone at home and don't let strangers in and it seemed quite logical
I was about to write that :) The enchantress was really awful person to curse 11 yr old
To be fair, back then you got married when you were fourteen.
then how can you explain the prince's painting?
The reason why most princess or prince don't have mothers (motherless) is because waltz dinesy grew up motherless
He didn’t grow up motherless, he felt guilt over his mother’s death.
It wasn't all the time he was motherless.
The reason why all of their mothers is dead is because Walt Disney 's
mom died
20Rachel09 qwas
20Rachel09 yes
20Rachel09 a piece of my heart just got thrown off of repunzels tower and shattered
True
Yeah, he felt guilty for her death (she died of a Carbon Monoxide leak in the house they had bought recently) so he decided to have his characters' parents dead (or not present).
Maybe the mother knew she was going to die. So she set a curse so her daughter could find love
Lewis T that's not a curse that's a spell
Derpyhooves 19 No, they're saying Belle's mom knew that she was going to die,and that Belle wanted to explore, so she puts curse on the Prince (Beast) so the belle would find someone who needs love, but has to learn how to give it, and they fall madly love, and find true love, and break the curse
Naw. She Dead. Lol.
Personally, I liked where you were going with Belle's mom being a lady of upper class standings. But that's about it. It's very possible that Belle's Father and Mother were both upper class citizens. Maurice could have become an inventor as a hobby, not having to really work for a living because they were rich? Also, as I've seen in the previews for the new film, the rose comes into play in a way other than "subtly" stating that the Enchantress is Belle's mother. In the original story of Beauty and The Beast, as you mentioned, Maurice is a widower, and a merchant. He goes out riding one day or is on his way home from some sale. Wanders into an immaculate rose garden. He is amazed by their beauty and reminded of his youngest, and most beautiful daughter, Belle. (Because she had 2 beautiful sisters, but they were spoiled bitches. Probably why the family goes broke.)
So anyway, he brings the rose home to Belle. He keeps doing this until one day, Beast, who owns said rose garden, catches him in the act. There ensues the plot.
But maybe the roses mean more to Maurice than a pretty gift for his favorite daughter. Maybe Belle's mother had a rose garden of her own, maybe her name was Rose. Maybe since Belle looks so much like her mother, that's why he's reminded of her when he sees the roses.
To conclude the Enchantress is really Belle's mother with an elaborate scheme is way too far fetched for my liking. Besides, if Belle's mother has magic powers, how come Belle's only super power is speed reading?
If the enchantress is kind of a fairy Godmother of sorts perhaps her gift to her daughter was beauty. Like in Sleeping Beauty? Thoughts?
Amber Farnum v
In the other versions of the story I've seen, her dad was a wealthy merchant whose ships were lost at sea, causing them to be poor. I've seen several different movie versions. The 1946 French movie is excellent.
Her mother's name is Rose 🌹
There’s actually a book called “As old as time” that suggests this very theory! I read it it’s super good!! It’s by Liz Braswell and is in a series of books that have other fairy tale theories as well, u should check it out!
Belle's mom actually died because of a bubonic plague. It was explained on the new live-action film.
Caryl Rose yep
or is it just a cover up because she can't go back to her family? 0.0
Cece Venticinn no it isn't they went back in time
Not a cover up
yea, just watched the movie.
What if Belle's mom is Aurora? The dress sure looks like Aurora's dress and the fairies called her Rose. Both stories are set in France and feature fairies/enchantress and curses.
but wouldn't that mean that belle has a twin sister since aurora had twins
that is according to the original fairy tale
Cinthia Molina I also thought this is the direction he'd go. I'd like some deeper research! Also, I didn't realize Aurora had twins. That's interesting. So who could be Belle's twin? Were they twin girls?
Based on her clothing, Aurora lived centuries before Belle's mother would have. "Beauty and the Beast" is set in 1700's France. "Sleeping Beauty" is said to actually take place in Renaissance Germany, if I recall correctly.
that's what I thought he was going to say at first
All the mothers get killed off because walt disney bought his pearants a house and it had a gas leak. Walt mother died and he felt responsible for her death and that's why he doesn't have mothers in the films.
Tirion Jones actually, a lot of Disney movies are based off of stories from hundreds of years ago, and most of the time in those stories the mom wasn't around
moana?
Tizzybumm how come princess Tiana mother was alive in her movie
@@owlc5970 It doesn't mean all of them didn't have a mother or father you know. Some had parents, some didn't
I thought in the original version of Beauty and The Beast, Belle has siblings. The original version of Beauty and The Beast, before Disney took over, I'm pretty sure that Belle has siblings. If possible, can someone let me know if I'm right or wrong please?????
Angel Albano - You are right. Originally she had sibling, two or three i think. In the original disney version too seen on sketches on bonus feature and story board before it got changed to the final version.
You are right, originally she had 2 older sisters.
You're right!
I never new she had siblings
Angel Albano yes Belle has two sisters and her name isn’t Belle. I forget what it is exactly but, I know her nickname is Beauty in the book.
Well in on of the original versions, Belle asks for a rose from her merchant father instead of materialistic things like her sisters. Maybe that has something to do with it as well.
..it certainly does .. this premise of the rose was in the very early, original tellings of the fairy tale...
Kathleen Curtis wait she has sisters!?!?!?!?!?!
Sisters???
Lauren. who are you?? Are you my friend from school or a random stranger???
Kathleen Curtis I think your thinking of Cinderella
But what if the picture in the cottage in Disney World is the picture of Bell with her and Beast's daughter? That will explain the roses as well as the book)
Arina Matveeva but the eyes dont match up
where are my fellow OUAT fans out there
Kiara & Nell me love it 💙
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In a flashback in the current movie they are in France during a plague while Belle was a baby yet she was saved by her father. Belle's mom was very sick and died in the movie
I thought he was going to say that Belle's mother in the portrait is actually an older Belle and the little girl is actually her and Beast's daughter. It could be another explaination for the importance of roses and the expensive clothing. Though, that theory has its fair share of kinks.
Jocelyn Camaya that's a good idea
Jocelyn Camaya the older woman in the painting doesnt have brown eyes like belle?
The reason most of the Disney princesses don't have mothers is because Walt Disney's mum died when he was little 😱
Grace white actually what i heard his mother died in a house he had built for so not when he was little ...
... read all the original fairy tales - written by Hans Christian Anderson, and the Grimm brothers... in all the origins, the mothers had already died, in childbirth, or during early childhood of the lead character. Walt was already producing animated movies of the fairy tales, and had already produced Snow White, and Sleeping Beauty (whose mother was present at the start and end of the story) before his mother died. The studio was simply following the original stories written centuries before Flora Disney died. Look at Merida/BRAVE, the mother is a lead character. In Frozen, they simply followed the pattern of losing a parent in tragic circumstances - the premise used to setup many original Fairy Tales in centuries gone by...
Well, he hadn't built it, he bought it for her with money he earned from Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. But yes, she complained about the gas furnace and eventually died of asphyxiation. This plagued Walt for the rest of his life.
I guess it's more because of the time the fairytales are set in. Most of them play in the 16th, 17th, 18th or 19th century. Until modern times many people died at a young age - you could might say being 40 was back then what being 90 is today. There were many diseases which spread like fire due to bad hygiene, and as you probably know vaccination was not a thing back then. Also many women died while giving birth because the medical conditions were really bad too. They lost a lot of blood during birth, were already weakened by pregnancy and quite often could not be saved. That's why most of the princesses/heroines already have lost their mother in the Grimm's/Andersen's/whatever's fairytales which the Disney movies are based on. It was quite a common thing back then.
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You finally mention Once Upon A Time yay! I'm so happy wish you would do that more with your videos but still love you guys
SHE HAD THE PLAGUE
Ally Jacobs this theory was made before the new movie came out
What if Belle's mom is the rose?
By the way, the only thing that I changed was in to if.
leila d it's possible
I get what you mean but it sounds extremely stupid when you first read it XD
Yes!!!!
leila d maybe
This theory of the mother being the enchantress is addressed in the book "As Old As Time" by Liz Braswell... This book is amazing, and I recommend anyone who is interested read it.
Danielle Slack thxs
Danielle Slack I LOVE THAT BOOK I LOVE IT SO MUCH
Danielle Slack just commented that as well! i just bought the book, its amazing
I'm in the middle of reading, "A Whole New World" now and can't wait until I get there
OMG! What if Mrs Potts is her mother????
The amount of joy I got from him mentioning "Once Upon a Time" is indescribable.
And now it’s on Disney+, I am overjoyed
Ya
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My theory is her mother is one of the servants in the castle and that is why the family moved and the whole magical spell happened and she turned into one of the objects when bell was a baby and doesn't tell her in case bell wouldn't be able to save the beast and the other past servants
I was also think the enchantress thing too but you know he explains it...
DJpiggy maybe she turned into the rose
DJpiggy how could she have turned into one of the objects when belle was a baby when there is a picture of her with belle when belle is around 10
She died.From the plague...
DJpiggy I was super disappointed..
Who is watching this after the live action of Beauty and Beast came out
I am
Fatima Murillo I am
I watched this before and after the live remake.
i am as well
Hannah Klenck .
You mentioned my favorite show. ONCE UPON A TIME IS AWESOME
Ouat is my favorite show too!
It's funny how you hit it perfectly, she was in a flashback and a picture
I personally think that if Belle's mother was the enchantress, then there must have been a one time thing. Maybe she was gifted with some sort of power to find her daughter's true love but only had once chance to find them. Maybe the rose on her dress was the same rose that the enchantress gave to the beast and it was the source of her power? Maybe When she gave the rose, it drainer her and she didn't know that it would do that. Maybe she turned into the rose?
Now I am very curious about this theory...
No I think if she has that sort of power then she could have been the enchtress who turned the prince into a beast wanting to give her precious daughter Bell to him, because she new her daughter age 10 at the tine had the heart of gold.
In the movie Belle was very drawn to the flower. She looked at it no confused or in an admiring way... like she saw its mysteries and its almost like she felt like she was connected to it. What if Belle's mother was an enchantress that can change forms, explaining how she can be an old lady at one time but then changes into her true form. And she is like a match maker that helps/guides people to find their soulmates... but maybe during one of her missions she met Maurice and accidentally fell in love with him while she was in the form of an heiress with brown hair and blue eyes, once Belle was born and as she turned 10ish her mother probably felt she had another mission to complete, the mission to find her own daughters soulmate! And she just "left" them and searched. Now she took the form of the old women and asked to be let in to his castle but when he refused she had to think of another plan that also doubled as an important lesson.. since she wouldn't want her daughter with an ill-mannered man. So she then showed her true form of a blonde enchantress and trapped her soul in the rose so she still could watch. Now, that could also be what led Maurice to the castle, like an explained force telling him to go the path he went... because his love was there...but as a rose. That is also why Belle was able to find it quickly, it was like she knew where to go cause her heart was leading her to the castle to meet the Beast, and save her father. As the rose her mother could still watch her and because her mom was the rose that is why she was so drawn and connected to the flower.
PEOPLE PLEASE READ A TWISTED TALE: WHAT IF BELLES MOTHER CURSED THE BEAST?
It brings up the EXACT SAME POINTS!
Caeley Baines not long at All
The enchantress was Belle's mother's fairy godmother. Hence the roses from both characters.
thelioness0809 that would make sense :0 wow
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What does that mean?
noPE DINT YU SE TH ELIVE ACTION
Fits, so I agree. And AWSOME!
My immediate thought was the war of the roses?? Not sure how the timing fits but looking into that could be verrryy interesting
Here's a theory that I have been looking answers for if Rapunzel's hair makes people younger why doesn't she get any younger
Rapunzel's hair doesn't make people younger, it heals people. Concerning Mother Gothel, her body was breaking down from old age. The magic healed her by fixing the parts of her that were dying. It made look healthy and therefor younger, but did nothing to her actual age.
But pretty much rapunzel is dying everyone is dying sure we're not getting any younger are we?
Sydney Rutter but what's the difference of singing to yourself and singing to others
Younger does not equal healthier. Rapunzel is is already pretty much as healthy as she could be, just past puberty.
George Hannaford younger people tend to be obviously be more healthier and more energetic then older people
I recently read a book about Beauty and the Beast and it was by Disney so I think it's cannon. In the book it mostly talks about belle's mother and how she was the enchantress and how Belle's mother and father met. I personally think the book was amazing and really informative and had a great ending.
I like fan theories because you can bring it up with friends or family and shock them with "what you know"
This is seriously one of my favorite theories so bummed they didn’t do in this direction for the live action version
"How bout now you're a bear"
Read the book. Tale as Old as Time~ A twisted tale. That's literally what it's about. If belles mother was the enchantress
TheMadTeaPatty Lol I wondered if anyone else had read that. I love that book!
I actually just commented about that book! :D
I liked how it tried to wrap up some of the weirder elements of the story, such as the Beast's aging/the portrait that was obviously showing him as an adult, rather than a child (when it would have been painted).
TheMadTeaPatty i love that book
hikolicious I liked how the asylum played a bigger role in the book and how we got backstory on a lot of the characters
I literally just read this two days ago! "What if Belle's mother cursed the Beast?" is probably a good draw for anyone who comes round these parts and it's right on the cover. How could any of us refuse?
I think that, the witch who gave the curse to the prince knew who was going to fall in love with so, she used the SAME rose that was on Belle's mother's dress. That's why it means so much to Belle.
In the other versions of the story I've seen, her dad was a wealthy merchant whose ships were lost at sea, causing them to be poor, therefore the provincial life.. Her two sisters were shopaholics and one of her brothers was a bad gambler. I've seen several different movie versions. The 1946 French movie is excellent. I intend to read the book someday... maybe.
Can I just say that this theory is amazing, but......
SPOILER ALERT.......
Belles mother dies when she is a baby, also when belle was a baby she used to live in an upper class part in France not near the castle where the prince would've been,
These facts are portrayed in the 2017 live action movie
I just want to clear up that this is not a hate comment, I actually enjoyed this video, I just wanted to clear the air and make sure that I don't get attacked by anyone... 😅🤗
I think Belle's mom is the enchantress. I think she wanted everyone to stop thinking that beauty is the outside and realize that beauty is inside, just what she did with Maurice. Both had a beautiful girl both inside and out and called her Belle which means beautiful in French.
The enchantress wanted the prince, more than anyone in the kingdom, to focus on the inside and not the outside, so she cast the spell. However, unfortunately she dies at some point. Belle grows thinking just like her mother, being the last one influenced by her mother to notice the inner beauty. That would explain why all the women are in love with Gaston because of his looks and Gaston wants to marry the most beautiful girl in the town, Belle.
I have always thought that Gastonwas guilty of all this judgment to the people by its appearance, with Maurice and in the end when he causes that all the men are united to him to kill Beast. At Gaston's and Beast's fight, Gaston dies. After that, Belle shows her true love to Beast with a kiss, making the spell break as Belle represents the beauty that will love him no matter how he looks like.This makes Belle's mother wishes come true, she wanted to get rid of the people who believed that the beauty was only external, so Gaston dies so that there are no more people like him or anyone who could influence people to think like that. And Beast receives love learning that beauty is beyond physical appearance.
I don't know, that's my theory, your theories seem more credible and are obviously way better, I love your videos!
YES!
I've seen the live action of Beauty and the Beast. I found it's amazing
"Two of three; mom, dad, husband. Go!" Love the phrasing.
The mom dies, and is granted a place as a fairy godmother. She helps the prince learn how to love. And she takes on the name of Agatha to spy on her daughter.
My World I thought that when I first saw the movie. I’m glad you comment that because I had to show my boyfriend that others thought the same.
Wtf
Yeah she did die
I’d like to believe that! It makes perfect sense to me!
Hey Super Carlin Brothers, I've always wondered who Christoph from Frozen's parents are, any theories?
I think his dad was probably one of those ice harvesters. The parents both died and the other harvesters took Kristoff in. That's why in the opening scene where the people are loading up the ice Kristoff and Sven are sort of just there without any particular adults looking over them.
Naomi Zhang, yeah maybe but like what happened to them? And then just being some insignificant people is just boring 😂 plus I feel like him and Anna where destined to meet, he was destined to save her from Hans. I feel like his destiny was set out from the start, by higher forces maybe, to make sure the entire kingdom didn't fall under peril at the hands of Hans. Would that maybe mean he was of some importance to the King and queen or maybe from some heroic lineage I dunno I'm kinda just curious.
you should tottaly read as old as time a twisted tale it answers so many questions and the whole story is based around "what if belle's mother cursed the beast" and explains her reasoning and its honestly so good!
2:52 the lyrics in the Broadway version are actually "you are your mother's daughter therefore you are blessed" I was actually in a local production and that's what the official music said.
It's crazy after all this time we finally have an answer after the live action version was released. It had a very important scene about her mother.
There's actually a whole book about this, specifically the Disney Beauty and the Beast. It's part of a series. In the first one, "A Whole New World," Jafar actually wins in the beginning, gets the genie and everything, and Aladdin and Jasmine invite a revolution against him with the people of Agrabah. In the second, "Once Upon A Dream," Maleficent wins, and when Philip kisses Aurora he enters her mind while under the sleeping curse and they have to escape it together. The third, "As Old As Time," asks the question you're asking: what if Belle's mother was the enchantress? And Belle found out?
Once Upon a Time-
Belle's mom got killed and Gason was turned into a rose and I cried so much watching this show
MY FAVORITE OF THE BROTHERS!
Please mention OUAT more!!!!!!!!!!
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Daphne Rosales yes, please!
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Daphne Rosales Please
🎶 Doe a deer, a Disney deer, killing of all the moms 🎶
The BigPig HA!!!
The BigPig hahah 😂 (please don't hate me but it's 'killing OFF all the Mums') or Moms depending where you're from.
YOU'RE MISSING A SYLLABLE! THE METER IS RUINED!!!
I think it's cause Walt Disney's mom died, but I'm not sure
The BigPig Yeah it's because Walt Disney lost his mother
There was a Twisted Tale book written in 2016 called As Old as Time and it was about Belle's mother placing the curse on Adam.
Her mother does appear in the flashback in the 2017 version. She’s sick and very close to death when she urges Maurice to leave saying “before it takes her too”
This is just my theory but here goes for anyone who'll see it. So the dress that her mother is wearing looks awfully familiar. It to me atleast looks like aurora from sleeping beauty. But that isn't enough to prove a theory. The other interesting thing however are the roses. But how would those correlate to aurora? If you remember in sleeping beauty when aurora lived with the fairies. She went by briar rose. But that would be hard stretch because her prince has a name Philip not Maurice. But I think that Philip and aurora may have both died and Maurice may be Philip's brother or cousin who belle lives with which is why she is new to the town but most people seem to know Maurice this would also make sense why she is classy and loves stories about far off places because it reminds her of home. And you have to admit Maurice does look somewhat similar to philip's father. Any way that's my theory go on your way. And as for her blonde hair people's hair can get darker as they age.
Aurora lived during the 1400s and Belle the 1700s though. In the original french fairy tale of beauty and the beast Belle is accustomed to riches because her father used to be a rich merchant in the city before losing his job and having to move to the new provincial town because of becoming poor. Belle was rich even after her mother died.
Alexa Mayo thx for the info it's just fun stuff to think about
It could be a couple generations down, but there could certainly be a bloodline there.
In some places in history, if you legitimately were related to the royal family, you were still wealthy even if you didn't live with them. If you don't believe me, watch Into the Woods.
Kit Kat woah!!!oh no Aurora dead?
There is a story that Snow White had a sister named red rose. I can't believe you don't mention that
Elkeisanidiot * wow
Elkeisanidiot * I think it was a different snow white. But its not really a common name 😅. if I remember correctly they lived in the woods and then she married a bear prince.
EMI V Yes, thats right. In german, the fairytales are called Schneeweißchen und Rosenrot (Snow-White and Rose-Red) und Schneewittchen (Snow-White), and are totally untelated.
Elkeisanidiot * my question about that is, why would u name ur children "Snow White" and "Red Rose" like why would u name them after an object and then the color of that object 😂
Tell that to the One Upon a Time people. If they mess with it, so did disney.
In case you didn't know, Disney has written a story called "As Old As Time--A twisted tale" that asks "What if Belle's mother cursed the Beast? It's written by Liz Braswell. Available at Barnes & Noble. I encourage you to check it out.
6:00 there is actually a book written where that is the case, its called As Old As Time, A Twisted Tale by Liz Braswell
Just search up the book "as old as time"
It is literally a story about how belles mother is the enchantress and was canon for a little while
Sebastian Daniels OMG I WAS ABOUT TO COMMENT THE SAME THING!!!! I finished that book a couple days ago!
I read that book it was SOOO good
It's so good wish it was still canon
I LOVE THAT BOOK
I love once upon a time
Did you see the episode in season 7 where belle returned? So sad!
In the book "as old as time a twisted tale", published by Disney, the story is told based on the idea that her mother IS the enchantress! It's quite a good read and what I choose to believe happened
Hey, this has been on my mind for a while, and while browsing through Barnes and Noble, I found a book that might be of interest to this theory. The name of the book is As Old as Time and it is written by Liz Braswell. I have yet to get fr into the book as I got distracted with another one, but the eye catcher on the cover is the question: What if Belle's mother cursed the beast. To help with this theory, I recommend reading the book to give a more rounded point of view other than the movies, and original story. Have fun, and I love your work!!!!!!
How about Belle's Mom is Rose Red, Snow White's not to often mentioned sister?
I didn't even know Snow White had a sister!
Brock Gerrard Actually, there are two seperate fairytales, Snow White and Rose Red, and Snow White. The two Snow Whites have nothing to do with each other, obviously a common name!
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Belles mom died because she got plagued. This is a orediction
This is another prediction. The beast takes her to one place where ever she wanted. Belle went to her old home and saw her mom getting plagued. Idk
You're mostly right. She did die in the plague and beast does take her back to her Paris home, but the atlas doesn't take em back in time so she just sees the empty apartment.
sppp spoilers much
What's an "orediction"? I know what a "prediction" is, but "oredictions" are new. Are they predictions of future oreos?
I forgot when the new movie was released, but I'm assuming it was after this vid was made, but its cool becuasethis theory still goes mostly with the new movie, when it shows more about Belle`s mother! please don`t kill me if I`m wrong, I haven`t seen the old movie in a long time..
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Just read the book "As Old As Time" 😂
Exactly what I say. It's even published by Disney
Elena Gonzalez that's my favorite book
Elena Gonzalez same!
Elena Gonzalez ikr
WHERE IS PART TWO OF TAMATOA!!!!!!!
Maria Teresa Reynel ikr
Maria Teresa Reynel yes
right like SUPERCARLINBROTHERS! WHY YOULEAVE ME HANGING?!?!?!?!?!
YES
i think that the enchantress maybe foreshadowed on who is going to be the one to lift the curse; someone deeply associated with roses. Maybe the rose wasn't actually aging with the beast, maybe it was going on until the person who can replace the rose comes by. um... idk just a theory from my messed up brain.
OMG I LAUGH SO MUCH IN THIS VIDEO😂😂😂
In a book licensed by Disney from the twisted tale series with the title As Old As Time it actually explains that this theory can be confirmed in the movie's lore. You should check it out! It's awesome! I'm reading it at the moment and I'm living every second of it!
ONCE UPON A TIME
ella xx AYYYYYY
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In the Disney book As Old as Time:A Twisted Tale takes place in an alternate version of Beauty and the Beast were Belle 's mom did cursed the beast. It's in the tag line.
when I was looking at the picture I saw Bells yellow dress that she wore while dancing with beast
In the early 2000´s , Disney published a book collection named "Belle´s diary" (also was Ariel, Esmeralda and Pocahontas, as I remember) there was the story of Belle´s mother, her name was Arlette and was a rich woman but her family disowned her because Maurice was a poor and young inventor. The couple was so poor but so happy and Arlette was so happy when her daughter was born and was she who teach her to love books. Later it says that Belle was leave alone "so soon" after a terrible disease kill Arlette. In the same books Arlette was showed with red hair and chesnut eyes.
Don't forget Bambi's mom
sean roberts And Frozen
sean roberts got shot by a hunter
I like the idea that belle's mother has the money and loves Maurice and lets Maurice follow his hobby/dream and be an inventor even if he is quirky
from what i remember the prince was turned into the beast when he was like 12 or 13 so the spell did not prevent him from aging
Her mother is totally the enchantress. There is that book "As Old as Time" that tells the story of how her mom was the enchantress and how she cursed the beast. Also in the new movie, the enchantress looked a lot like her, they were almost exactly alike. Plus the roses in the picture also added up. Also, why else would she save Maurice from being eaten by wolves in the new movie? Sure she's the enchantress and is good-hearted and all but could it be because it's the man she loved? I mean, at the end she gives Maurice a look before dancing with someone else. It's the only logical explanation.
Wazowski's Apprentice that was Mrs. Potts who looks at Maurice then starts dancing with Mr. Potts. i still don't get y she looks at him for a couple of seconds. I was like wait did I miss something? Y did she do that?
This video already has 50+ comments and it's been out for only a few minutes...
Ashlee Woods yup but they're all saying "first" or "new supercarlin video!"
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I got so use to Old Man I was shocked seeing Maurice.