I can't buy a used catalytic converter from a scrap dealer. It is against Federal law. So why is it legal for a scrap dealer buy 14 of them at a time from some toothless tweeker?
@@rvw3022 Yes, I know why people steal them. But they'd be stolen less if it were illegal for scrap dealers to buy them just like it is illegal for car owners to buy them.
I’m sure there are unscrupulous scrap yards out there but i’ve also heard most of these catalytic thefts get sold to gangs and end up in shipping containers bound for asia where they are sold and the local scrap yard never sees them.
these thieves are from California, its where it all started. If Californians move into your States, towns, cities, counties. you better watch out on them, especially the low class ones.
@@gheerock4077 The Mexican drug cartels from Tamaulipas from long time ago are in the business of precious metals like gold, platinum and others like the ones that are in the catalytic converters, they use this metals to do money laundering, I bet they’re are being this dirty business, or maybe a small gang that sells this metals to the drug cartels to do money laundering.
Didn't stop horses getting stolen. Prohibition didn't stop booze being sold. And then if they lost their hands, as well as spending time in prison on my taxes, they'd then be on benefits for the rest of their lives. If only there was a way to stop them that also doesn't cost more than a few cents....
@Rob ... Agreed. Vehicle owners may shoot dead the perpetrators if caught in the act. Police are strictly prohibited from making arrests, and no prosecution under any circumstances. This ends tonight.
It's already in place, it's called the Second Amendment. You have all let your Liberty go for a handout from government. They are already in dereliction of duty to the "People", so why would you look to them to solve your own personal responsibilities? A man can only possess that which he can maintain possession of.
@@mangos2888 It's not property damage. It's theft. You know why horse rustlers were so rare in the old west? They were hanged. And stand your ground laws/castle doctrine recognizes the act for what it is. It's invasion and plunder. It's not murder. It's combat.
Come down hard on scrapyard owners, make them prove that each converter came from a licensed shop, if not charge them with a crime. If the scumbags can't sell the converters they'll stop stealing them.
Simple fix. NO one gets paid for 30 days at the scrap yard. State ID and home address of the seller on file. The metal dealer pays huge fines if they don't.
And vehicle manufacturers put the VIN number on every popular stolen part. Here in the UK scrap yards ask for photo ID and a valid bank account to pay the funds into.
I thought it was a federal offense to alter a vehicles emission equipment? So start handing the thieves over to the epa, and send them to federal prison!
@@A_Bit_of_Thought they don’t do shit for the environment but put fines and complain of shit they don’t know. At most they do a quick google search and use what fits their agenda.
It's part of a larger problem, that our government and criminal justice system are absolutely indifferent to the hardship of hardworking honest citizens. In 1991 I had my ten year old, rusted Honda Civic stolen off the street in Queens, NYC. When the cop came to take a report an hour later he said that an old car like that is worth much more for parts and it was probably already in 2000 different parts by now. I researched car theft in NYC and found that in the preceding year there about 15,000 car thefts in NYC. Of these about 1200 of the thieves were caught. Of the 1200 that were caught about 160 went to trial and of these only 64 served jail time. I'm a dentist and at the time was struggling to save every penny to get out of that sh*thole of a city and didn't bother buying a car to replace it. So it struck me that stealing cars is literally safer legally than being a dentist in NYC. Really pathetic.
Years back I was told by my insurance company that my Brooklyn zip is one of the worst for damage and car theft. They said they have insure the entire state but would certain exclude some areas if they could. I unfortunately knew people in NY that made a very good living off "petty" crimes like that. Really sad.
I think that if car manufacturers can make you remove your front wheel in order to change the car battery, they certainly can think of something to make it harder to remove the cc.
In Washington Missouri, we took 2 catalytic converters to scrap, they copied our license, took pictures of them, and we had to wait for about 30 minutes before we got paid, I’m guessing they did a check on them, but I think this would stop a lot of stealing if more scrap yards would do that
In my state you cannot scrap anything if you have a criminal record (felonious) and they only give 25 in cash, to get the rest you have to have an account and show a ton of I’d and whatnot. It doesn’t stop ANYONE from selling stolen scrap though.
I was gonna say the same thing how come someone is selling dozens of converters the buyer knows everything and should be held guilty instead of those bullshit solutions park in garage ..how about hiring a security guard
Engraving does NOT stop them. I had mine engraved and a week later it was gone. $2,000 later had to replace muffler and catalytic converter. My sister and neighbor had the same experience, got it engraved and week later it was gone. Oddly enough, we all got it engraved at the exact same toyota dealer that the police had put out a flyer for free engraving. Coincidence, no, I think it was an inside job at that toyota dealership. Someone working there or someone there passing on information about the vehicle and location to outside. Did any of us ever hear from police? Nope, never, not a word. Besides with the current criminal laws, they would just be given a ticket for a misdemeanor and let go to go steal more.
And the lawmakers and judges who allow this to happen, and happen, and happen with little consequences are as equally to blame as the thieves. Same with the scrapyard guys who know the converter is stolen but buys it anyway. Absolutely disgusting that we put up with it ...
LOL why am I not surprised. Only Las Vegas. I know what you should do research Lake Mead water shortage once you see how low the lake is and how much little time you have you will then decide let me get the heck outta here. Problem solved 👍👍👍👍
Chief Running Turtle: How would the scrapyard owner feel if they stole his catalytic converter from his car because of his policy of buying stolen cataiytic converters.
Mechanic that was a family friend of mine loved trolling thieves, he had a junk pickup that he kept installing "fake" cats on, they got stolen like 6 or 7 times, he had taken scrap cats, hollowed them out and filled with em rocks and other worthless materials xD
I been using wal mart jack stands ever since started working on cars when I was 15 I’m 23 now and still use wal mart jack stands and never had a issue with them I literally went full bolt on on my old 96 civic and was under car for literally 30 mins luckily they work great I don’t trust wal mart jack stands with my life but I still use em
The businesses buying these stolen converters are as guilty as the thieves. If they refused to buy them, there would be no demand, and theft would stop. Only MASSIVE fines AND JAILTIME will "encourage" these CRIMINAL businesses to NOT willingly and KNOWINGLY receive stolen property! IMO
In my city, some thieves tried 3 different times to steal some guys catalytic converters from his truck. On the last broad daylight attempt, the owner and his roommate came out with their paintball guns and let them have it. It was caught on their ring video.
See that's one of those cases where the crook could have sued y'all for even shooting him with no lethal weapons. All he had to do was slip and fall when running from you and he'd be getting paid. Supposed to be in direct fear of your life before it is right to utilize a weapon of any kind. 🤷🏻♂️.
Make it a mandatory death sentence. We need to make most crime in this country punishable by death with the sentence to be carried out immediately upon arrest.
It is always the same reaction to any crime. Make the victim take steps , expense to protect their investment, never go after the criminals, make them pay the price, in the form of higher fines and jail time.
Don't worry even if they are handed the criminal on a silver platter with video and admission of guilt the liberal judicial activist prosecutor will still let them go. People know they have nothing to worry about anymore. Except of course me dropping my car on their skull when they are under it. If I see anyone under my car I'm kicking the opposite side tire as hard as I can and laughing while the jack goes flying.
Here in Maryland, I took two old deep cycling batteries to the recyclers. Had to give them my license, and they took my picture before the transaction. They said this was the law to prevent illegal scraping. Simple cure for Catalytic Converters, Batteries AC Coil and Copper Thieves. Should be done Nationwide.
almost impossible to justify having a cat all fed laws ignored how many people change them them selves there are hundreds shown on local face book all sawed off shops unbolt them
The last time this was going on they went to the buyers and made them have the sellers register their sales and that slowed it down by having to state where you got them and provide legal license for ID.
@@delegate104 Not high temp paint baked on by the hot converter. I don't know what brake cleaner you are using but I doubt it comes off that easy. Just for kicks I'm going to do this to my beater truck just to prove myself right
Wouldn't work in urban areas. Crime and politics go hand in hand. City county and state politicians have a quid pro quo arrangement. Even if a thug does get arrested, they're out and the DA doesn't file charges.
You do realize that cat converters don’t break down that often? We’re talking about like 150,000 miles before you have to service one (minimum) and if you don’t drive like a taxi, that’s gonna take you at least 13 -15 years
In Tijuana, you can hear the sound of the cutter at around 4 to 6 am. I saw one guy shut at them while they took off on their pick up. And guns are ilegal. The police came but looking for the person that had fire the weapon, not the thief's.
Making it go underground will only make it even more expensive. You can't stop cash transaction. They only way is to do undercover sting operations to catch the sellers and buyers of obvious stolen converters.
When i stayed in Kiev , Ukraine long ago the city mafia collected tribute from the business owners but they did their job for it, the city streets were safe at night, if a business or it's customer was robbed or attacked, mafia justice was swift, no courtroom just the perp was beat bad or more. The crooks would rather had the police pick them up
@@safffff1000 Unfortunately, Russia wants to raid Ukraine to destroy this functioning democracy and self determinance. They can't have functioning democracy right next door. Why do stupid Trumpsters traitors support Putin's Russia?!?!
Local radio ad “you work hard for your cats, get the most you can for them at XYZ recycling” I’m thinking “well, that’s not shady at all”. The VIN thing is a good idea but it would have to be stamped in, a couple of passes with a grinder would erase markings made with a buzz pencil engraver.
Etching the VIN onto a catalytic converter makes it traceable if stolen, but I don’t understand how painting it a bright color makes it any riskier or less attractive to thieves. Can someone please explain?
Dont't quote me, but I *think* it's an unofficial "rule" that if they're painted it means they were stolen. Sort of like the dye packs they put in the bag when thieves rob banks. Just something signifying it was stolen.
Damn I can only imagine what the AT&T girl was going through if this bodacious woman is getting checked out and gawked at but yea she is a good cuddle buddy!
I don't do this because I never break the law, but someone once advised me to do the following: Whenever your Cats go bad, replace them but keep the old ones. Take the smog test with the new Cat, pass the test, then you can reinstall the old bad cat so that if it gets stolen, you don't have to dish out several hundreds or several thousands of dollars for a new Cat. Now, keep in mind, I don't recommend this because I'm not the kind of person that would advise any law abiding citizen (like me) to break the pollution laws. I'm just stating not to do what a person once wrongfully advised me to do ; )
I had the same thinking when I cut mine off my first truck..got the catalytic down to the scrap yard and...they told me it was worthless. The honey comb had blown out into my muffler I guess..so that explained the noise in my muffler lol. Obviously cut that off too and had a shop weld the hollow cat and a flow master back in, sounds great!. Not to loud not to quiet👌 my plan for the catalytic scrap $ to cover the cost "backfired" on me lol ended up costing me 160$..lesson learned..dont count your money before ya got it👍
I wonder if it would work to wrap a wire around the whole cat and if it gets cut an alarm starts and maybe even something that would spray them with something when it happens
Completely covering the catalytic converter area with a steel plate like was shown, even with a few holes like it had, is very dangerous. Cats run at a very high temperature and trapping that heat in could lead to a very bad time.
There are other cage designs out there that have been around for a few decades. Some involve a daisy chain method that wraps around the converter and permanently locks into place by special anti-tampering bolts. Most theives won't bother touching it because it takes too long to steal it.
I have customers rolling in with mud baked on, 1 to 2 inches of mud cooked on. the mud acts like an insulator keeps the cat warm in the winter and the summer time it keep me from getting burned.
Why not implement a chainmail wrap? And if you have one, weld it onto your exhaust pipe before and after the cat. Or you can use the chainmail as a way to make that mesh so the cat can breathe. Most of the time these guys have that special metal pipe cutting tool on Amazon, the chain thing wraps around the pipe, three twists and it's off. So about 1 minute is all it takes to snatch a cat. You could also weld a cage around the cat, kind of like a milk carton. Use angle iron, weld a U box, connect the four bottom pieces and make a cross section. Make the ends of the U smaller than the cats diameter so if they manage to cut it, they can't take it out. I'm going to start suggesting this to all the truck owners I know... Lol.
I caught one trying too steal, lowered the jack ,his friends took off ,left him there for awhile until I had too go too work ,kept the jack, he slowly walked away crying
I worked for a fiberglass company and we worked in a plant in jersey that reclaimed the radium ( can't remember) from converters... We were x-rayed and searched when leaving because a cigarette pack of the material was about 60 grand... I was told.. and that doesn't Include all the ( other) precious metals...
@@eddienino8488 mine are hard they're tucked in the engine bay = impossible to take but i got full coverage just incase since it's 2,000 to replace both of them and only 100$ more every 6 mo
You fell for that scam called "insurance". Insurance companies will not replace them with oem parts. Also they'll simply raise your rates so you're actually paying them twice regardless.
I am blessed I own a 2016 Pro 4x Frontier & thankfully it has skid plates that will help prevent these thieves. I'm not saying they can't steal them but it would take alot more work. You guys with lifted trucks or thinking of getting a lift make sure you can get skid plates when you get you lift.
Having been hit twice over the years, nothing short of summary execution will stop converter thieves. The first time my converter was stolen, my truck was at work. Thieves stole converters off every Toyota truck on the parking lot. Surveillance cameras allegedly must have been made by Sgt Schultz, as they saw nothing, nothing at all. The second time my new truck was at the dealership for a recall campaign. Instead of parking the truck inside their gated storage lot, it was left outside. Thieves hit close to 15 trucks, stealing all four converters off the V8 powered trucks. Cost of factory new converters and pipes, $4500 per truck.
Execution? That's a lie. There are many other ways. If you support execution for that then that means that you are against the Constitution, you are against our constitutional rights.
Friend was getting his fender skirts on his car stolen he taped razor blades on the reliese handle twice he would find blood on his car when they would try to steal them ,.
I’d say a grid of electric fence string, with a 12v to HV transformer keeping it hot would do nicely. Run from a 18-20v tool battery for some extra “kick”
i don't see how painting your converter will deter theft. two things will make this stop. eliminate converters and make it legal to shoot anyone attempting to steal one off your car.
The legit scrap yards are "required" to vet sellers of scrap with identification. If a scrap yard receives large amounts of catalytic converters that have clearly been sawed off they should report it and supply the police with the recorded finger prints, photos and identifications of the seller. So why is this still going on? The scrap yards are either in on it, the sellers have a connection to bypass the city ordinances or they are going out of city ordinance jurisdiction to sell to smaller "mom & pop" scrap yards that dont care about where the scrap comes from. In the end money talks. Thevies got my catalytic converter about a year ago on a used truck i had bought a couple of years earlier, I came to find out that the one they had cut out and stolen was a replacement installed by the previous owner. When I called the police to file a report, I was advised that it is pretty much a lost cause to hope for justice unless it gains publicity. I guess now is that time.
How does the $6 come into play? 2000 degree spray paint is 3 to 4 times that! Edit 12/14/21 : I may have to change my tone here, I bought the $18 2000 degree paint and found out that most of the outer part of the Cat is a shield that does not get near 1600 degrees, and that 500-degree paint might be fine! Also when I painted mine I got a sheet of 3/4" vinyl letters and numbers from Dollar Tree and used them to put my Vin # on the Cat before painting, after the paint dried I peeled them off and went over them with my etcher. The number is very prominent! I also got 15' of 5/16" steel cable and wove it around and threw holes in the frame and Cat shield loosely, hiding the cable clamps above the Cat. Anyone who has cut a steel cable with a hacksaw will know how difficult this will be for a thief under your car.
@@JosephHelmstetterinFlowerMound I think the reporter didn't do their homework, 500-degree high heat paint can cost only $6 but the cat runs at 1400 to 1600 degrees I think so now you have to buy 2000- degree paint for $20, still worth it to help keep thieves away. They got my wife's cat in a mall parking lot it cost us over $300 to replace with the cheapest one.
The only way the Police can arrest thieves in possession of multiple converters is only when a partial VIN number is found on one or more converters. Until better laws are passed giving more options to law enforcement, these criminals are protected. Painting the converters is also very helpful to distinguish a stolen part. Toyota Prius owners have quite few options for anti theft panels to protect their converters but trucks and other vehicles have limited availablity for the same protection.
@@esaedvik we do have free education and Healthcare. Public Education and Obamacare. Rate of Cat theft still increases. Socialism is not the answer as there's still theft in Venezuela
@@esaedvik Why not free everything, I mean heck free food, free pu$$y, free cars and houses... oh wait, someone has to pay for that thru hard work and taxes. I'm not interested in paying higher taxes so a junkie can get their fix, they can get a job like the rest of us and earn their way thru life. I live in the Bronx, I've had 5 attempted vehicle break ins over the last year and had my catalytic converter stolen off my van. The last guy had a better car than I did.
Need to hit the source , ie: the unscrupulous characters that are buying them no Questions asked . If they didn’t buy them the thieves wouldn’t steal them .
That's like saying if people quit buying audio equipment, wheels, or anything else people want that people would quit stealing it because they couldn't sell it, it's not the buyers fault, it's criminals and thieves being lousy people, you don't seem to understand what is inside of catalytic converters, what those precious metals are worth, and that they can be recycled. If you want to blame somebody for catalytic converters being stolen, blame the EPA for requiring them in the first place
@@lumpyzx2645 Sorry I disagree, I know they’re worth money. If your a scrap merchant and some guy says do you want to buy a ton of catalytic converters from a whole bunch of different cars. You’d have to be a complete idiot to not think for a moment that they’re stolen. Even if someone sells the odd one or two, anyone in a business should require some form of proof that these are genuine. Otherwise they’d be as much as a low life as the person who stole it, It’s Fuelling the whole vicious cycle. Catching one criminal gang today doesn’t stop the thefts . The only way to stop the thrift is by making it harder for thieves to off load them. If there’s nobody willing to buy them then it’s pointless for the thieves to even steal them .
@@mark-1rc502 I have a cat now that came off a 99 Subaru. I owned it, car was scrapped. I'm the owner...but I have no way to prove that. I helped a mechanic for years. I would collect his cats and sell them for him. (I would drive them to the largest cat buyer in the states. (They had the facility there that actually produced new after market converters). I again had no way to prove what cars the cats came from. If the re-manufacturers don't have the used cats to work with, the recycling concept shuts down. If only there were jobs out there for these thieves....
@@Dancing_Alone_wRentals I get that , May be the Vin no. Can be etched on to the CAT And proof of Vehicle Scrapped ?🤷♂️ If the vin ground off don’t accept
@@mark-1rc502 It would be hard. The thieves would buy the etching tool, Harbor Freight would sell a battery powered clone, Carmax would provide them endless vin numbers to fake. A way to do it would be to have a dealer system for cats just like for guns. That level of documentation and scrutiny but I think people on a whole would not want it due to how it would drive up the costs Today, you buy a cat...shell out big bucks, and it bolts on fairly easily. In the future only certified dealers could do the repair for you. Imagine the costs. Probably easier to invent a motion alarm around the cat when the car is parked. (You know...you and I should do this....You can be CEO of this company, I'll be CFO)
I have a cheap solution! Remove your catalytic converter and replace it with a straight pipe with flange. The day of the inspection, you put it back on then, off again for another year. Put anti seize on the bolts to make the job easier the next time you remove it. High heat don’t affect the anti seize and it’s a good anti rust. The day the thief can no longer sell their loot, reinstall it permanently!
Beware, that the casing might cause the catalytic converter to overheat and get damaged or cause the vehicle to catch fire. I live in Bavaria Germany and I‘m very happy to have a strong police fighting those criminals. Sometimes it is perfect to live in a neighborhood, where people care and such thief’s have no margin that would encourage them to risk getting jailed.
Good for you... Here things are backwards.. these losers have more rights than the victims thanks to the progressive, communist, liberal globalist derailed dems, haters of America. Sad. Pray for America.
not sure about germany, but in america and also here in australia they are going to any area to commit crimes now. they will get into gated communities with 24/7 on site security and steal all the cats before anyone realizes like it's oceans 11.
Mr. Simplistic here:... When the law catches these creeps/thieves... Jail them a lot longer. Make them clean the toilets in nursing homes....Oh wait that would be cruel and unusual. What was I thinking ?
Any scrapyard willing to give money to the guy who's there three times a week with cats to sell wont worry about the etched vin or spray paint. They're just as guilty as the actual thieves. They'll pull the precious metals and throw the bright orange metal exterior away to make a quick buck
I did see a Mercedes on bricks last year £100 in alloy or £1,000 on eBay - it is crazy. In the UK you have to provide driver's licence, car/van registration and bank details to the scrap merchant to get an account then payments are only made to your bank. It has helped reduce the theft of lead from church roofs, aluminium road signs and the like.
The cat was cut out from my friend's Prius a few months ago. He bought cheap aftermarket and installed it just so the car wouldn't throw any error codes and make it quiet. A couple of weeks ago the same thing happened again. Twice in 3 months. The same car.
The newer cats bring in less money a lot less if an experienced thief sees an aftermarket they usually won’t touch those you might get 8.00 for one, I used to do Cash For Junk Cars several years ago and I was stunned on how little they bring, I stopped cutting them off, it wasn’t worth it and the junkyards were always happy to see them still on
I was at a UPS storefront in Lake City Fl. a few months ago and I saw a couple of guys bring boxes of used cut out catalytic converters and had UPS ship them out. I called and reported it to the Sheriff's office.
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I cut my catalytic converter off every night and bring it in the house and then I weld it back on in the morning before I go back to work.
You're Crazier than a Road Lizard if you do.
Journeymen Shipfitter Graduate Apprentice : 20 years - Naval Shipyard Long Beach , CA........Smog Repair Mechanic : Independent Automotive Shops & GM Dealership.
Ha haha! I'm all for it. Any excuse to put the welder to work.
And Thats why Welders are badass high 5.
engraving it wont do shnit. they used a grinder to cut the converter out. they can also use the grinder to grind out the engraving.
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The scrap yards are as crooked as the crooks
Oh Chris Kringle bring me a roll of copper for Christmas
@Kalina Phan you dont take the metal out of the converter fool lol its worth more together with the metals inside.
Pawn shops also
@Ramiro Duran yea he's in the spotlight so of course he does
@Kalina Phan lol I've brought both to the scrap yard complete and metals out and there worth more complete so wtf are you talking about lol
They need to crack down on the scrapyards that are accepting these without rigorous scrutiny..they are just as bad as the thieves
Thats right blame businessmen.. dont blame the dumocraps and their criminal voters.
I can't buy a used catalytic converter from a scrap dealer. It is against Federal law. So why is it legal for a scrap dealer buy 14 of them at a time from some toothless tweeker?
They are recycled for their resources, not to be used as a replacement part.
@@alb12345672 I can buy any other used part off of a car...except a cat. What are those used cats recycled into? NEW cats.
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@Aaron Costello they have precious metals on them like gold. Collect enough and you have a pretty penny.
@@rvw3022 Yes, I know why people steal them. But they'd be stolen less if it were illegal for scrap dealers to buy them just like it is illegal for car owners to buy them.
I think you should arrest the scrapyard owners. If your getting ten to thirty converters a week from the same guy come on its obvious there stolen.
Yes undercover sales to scrap yards
Yep, you know they’re involved in it.
I’m sure there are unscrupulous scrap yards out there but i’ve also heard most of these catalytic thefts get sold to gangs and end up in shipping containers bound for asia where they are sold and the local scrap yard never sees them.
these thieves are from California, its where it all started. If Californians move into your States, towns, cities, counties. you better watch out on them, especially the low class ones.
@@gheerock4077 The Mexican drug cartels from Tamaulipas from long time ago are in the business of precious metals like gold, platinum and others like the ones that are in the catalytic converters, they use this metals to do money laundering, I bet they’re are being this dirty business, or maybe a small gang that sells this metals to the drug cartels to do money laundering.
There was a time when horse thieves were hanged. Maybe it's time we bring that back.
Didn't stop horses getting stolen. Prohibition didn't stop booze being sold. And then if they lost their hands, as well as spending time in prison on my taxes, they'd then be on benefits for the rest of their lives. If only there was a way to stop them that also doesn't cost more than a few cents....
@Chill Will Well, they *used* to... :-)
I second that! Let's start hanging horse thieves again.
@Chill Will not mine. Try about $5 per round,if I can find them in stock anywhere.
@Shubbit the fubbick ubbip!!! Not in CA
We need a Protect your Property by any means necessary law....
I for one am tired of criminals not being held accountable...
@Rob ... Agreed. Vehicle owners may shoot dead the perpetrators if caught in the act. Police are strictly prohibited from making arrests, and no prosecution under any circumstances. This ends tonight.
It's already in place, it's called the Second Amendment.
You have all let your Liberty go for a handout from government.
They are already in dereliction of duty to the "People",
so why would you look to them to solve your own personal responsibilities?
A man can only possess that which he can maintain possession of.
No way. Property damage doesn't justify murder. Ever.
@@mangos2888
Opinions vary.
I don't believe in killing, but some offenses call for it, don't they?
Mess with my kids, and you'll find out.
@@mangos2888 It's not property damage. It's theft. You know why horse rustlers were so rare in the old west? They were hanged.
And stand your ground laws/castle doctrine recognizes the act for what it is. It's invasion and plunder.
It's not murder. It's combat.
Come down hard on scrapyard owners, make them prove that each converter came from a licensed shop, if not charge them with a crime. If the scumbags can't sell the converters they'll stop stealing them.
Simple fix. NO one gets paid for 30 days at the scrap yard. State ID and home address of the seller on file. The metal dealer pays huge fines if they don't.
To logical, makes too much sense, the beurocrats will never go for it .
And vehicle manufacturers put the VIN number on every popular stolen part. Here in the UK scrap yards ask for photo ID and a valid bank account to pay the funds into.
They already do that bro, problem is most scrap yards are in on it, even telling the thieves which cars cc have the higher value.
We don’t sell the cats to scrap yards lmao way too valuable
No ID for VOTING in thisDEMONdnc chinaJoeThePEDO country, but get an ID for converter???????? what's the F-wrong with this?
I thought it was a federal offense to alter a vehicles emission equipment? So start handing the thieves over to the epa, and send them to federal prison!
The EPA is not interested in catching criminals - It only wants to be a headache to the vehicle owners.
@@A_Bit_of_Thought they don’t do shit for the environment but put fines and complain of shit they don’t know. At most they do a quick google search and use what fits their agenda.
@@TrojanLube69 Agreed - In so many words they, like other government bureaucracies just like to feel important and harrass people.
@@A_Bit_of_Thought yeah the EPA is the car version of the ATF pretty much
not really
It's part of a larger problem, that our government and criminal justice system are absolutely indifferent to the hardship of hardworking honest citizens. In 1991 I had my ten year old, rusted Honda Civic stolen off the street in Queens, NYC. When the cop came to take a report an hour later he said that an old car like that is worth much more for parts and it was probably already in 2000 different parts by now. I researched car theft in NYC and found that in the preceding year there about 15,000 car thefts in NYC. Of these about 1200 of the thieves were caught. Of the 1200 that were caught about 160 went to trial and of these only 64 served jail time. I'm a dentist and at the time was struggling to save every penny to get out of that sh*thole of a city and didn't bother buying a car to replace it. So it struck me that stealing cars is literally safer legally than being a dentist in NYC. Really pathetic.
Years back I was told by my insurance company that my Brooklyn zip is one of the worst for damage and car theft. They said they have insure the entire state but would certain exclude some areas if they could.
I unfortunately knew people in NY that made a very good living off "petty" crimes like that. Really sad.
I think that if car manufacturers can make you remove your front wheel in order to change the car battery, they certainly can think of something to make it harder to remove the cc.
In Washington Missouri, we took 2 catalytic converters to scrap, they copied our license, took pictures of them, and we had to wait for about 30 minutes before we got paid, I’m guessing they did a check on them, but I think this would stop a lot of stealing if more scrap yards would do that
In my state you cannot scrap anything if you have a criminal record (felonious) and they only give 25 in cash, to get the rest you have to have an account and show a ton of I’d and whatnot. It doesn’t stop ANYONE from selling stolen scrap though.
How much did you get
@@scootersonlyrepair6773 why are you asking that?
No one cares
Hei
How much do thy cost ?
The problem is the buyers of the Cat Converter. They will stop stealing them when they cannot sell them anymore.
This is such a simple solution. Track the buyers, they just as guilty.
I was gonna say the same thing how come someone is selling dozens of converters the buyer knows everything and should be held guilty instead of those bullshit solutions park in garage ..how about hiring a security guard
@@adammoe605 lol maybe we should all get lasers on our cars and have satellite tracking of our converters!
Its china buying all the worlds metals and other resources
@@adammoe605 You're going to invade China to station a security guard there?
Engraving does NOT stop them. I had mine engraved and a week later it was gone. $2,000 later had to replace muffler and catalytic converter. My sister and neighbor had the same experience, got it engraved and week later it was gone. Oddly enough, we all got it engraved at the exact same toyota dealer that the police had put out a flyer for free engraving. Coincidence, no, I think it was an inside job at that toyota dealership. Someone working there or someone there passing on information about the vehicle and location to outside. Did any of us ever hear from police? Nope, never, not a word. Besides with the current criminal laws, they would just be given a ticket for a misdemeanor and let go to go steal more.
Engraving can also be ground off quickly.
@@chrisd5133 I suspect mine was stolen. I want to “engrave” the guy who stole it if that’s the case.
I also feel like a lot of these places are in on it.
They Stole my BMW M4 Catylic Converter Last Year With My 4 Wheels.
I wish this on no one, waking up to this
Will really mess up your day.
WOWWWW. SMDH
And the lawmakers and judges who allow this to happen, and happen, and happen with little consequences are as equally to blame as the thieves. Same with the scrapyard guys who know the converter is stolen but buys it anyway. Absolutely disgusting that we put up with it ...
Agreed
Also the businesses that won't hand over surveillance video to help, as well as the cops that say "sorry nothing we can do, go away"
LOL why am I not surprised. Only Las Vegas. I know what you should do research Lake Mead water shortage once you see how low the lake is and how much little time you have you will then decide let me get the heck outta here. Problem solved 👍👍👍👍
Chief Running Turtle: How would the scrapyard owner feel if they stole his catalytic converter from his car because of his policy of buying stolen cataiytic converters.
Cops love criminals . They are now a protected class.
I know no scrap yard with the ambition to look up any VIN #. Period. Most are just as crooked as the thieves bringing the stolen items in.
But not as crooked as your mother when she starts asking to be paid.
in all my years working on cars i have never seen a vehicle identification number stamped into a cat converter.
I can go to my scrap yard right now and scrap any car, ten years or older and don't even need the title!
I mean, it's not like the vin info is hard to get. Just take a picture.
@@jw7037 a good cat thieve can leave the cat on the car and drive it all right over the scale. Get an extra 200 bucks.
Mechanic that was a family friend of mine loved trolling thieves, he had a junk pickup that he kept installing "fake" cats on, they got stolen like 6 or 7 times, he had taken scrap cats, hollowed them out and filled with em rocks and other worthless materials xD
Isn’t the cost of catalytic converters in the thousands? Charge them with felonies instead of misdemeanor C including the shop owners who bought them…
Just heard of a guy who died after the car he was stealing the cat from fell on him. Damn harbor freight jack stands!!!
No shit 😂😂😂
Bam! Justice Served!
Should of got wal mart Jack stands smh
Hahahaha
I been using wal mart jack stands ever since started working on cars when I was 15 I’m 23 now and still use wal mart jack stands and never had a issue with them I literally went full bolt on on my old 96 civic and was under car for literally 30 mins luckily they work great I don’t trust wal mart jack stands with my life but I still use em
To stop thefts make a law harder for them to sell it
These precious metals are being sent to China and Africa. It's a global thing.... But the US Feds should be cracking skulls
engraving it wont do shnit. they used a grinder to cut the converter out. they can also use the grinder to grind out the engraving.
That would be to easy can't fix a broken system🤦🤦🤦
@@MontyRoyal963 too busy chasing their tail
Lol
The businesses buying these stolen converters are as guilty as the thieves. If they refused to buy them, there would be no demand, and theft would stop. Only MASSIVE fines AND JAILTIME will "encourage" these CRIMINAL businesses to NOT willingly and KNOWINGLY receive stolen property! IMO
In my city, some thieves tried 3 different times to steal some guys catalytic converters from his truck. On the last broad daylight attempt, the owner and his roommate came out with their paintball guns and let them have it. It was caught on their ring video.
See that's one of those cases where the crook could have sued y'all for even shooting him with no lethal weapons. All he had to do was slip and fall when running from you and he'd be getting paid. Supposed to be in direct fear of your life before it is right to utilize a weapon of any kind. 🤷🏻♂️.
Live ammo or stay in the house pu*ks
@@jakefidd8344 Not true, there have been cases of people who killed cat thieves and weren't charged. As they shouldn't be.
Give them minimum 5 years in prison if caught stealing one, thief and buyer.
It’s a federal offense to disable a vehicles emission equipment, why don’t they hit them with that charge?
or cut off one of their hands for stealing...
@@carl-cr7rp with the sawzall they were using!
Shoot them on site. That will end it.
Make it a mandatory death sentence. We need to make most crime in this country punishable by death with the sentence to be carried out immediately upon arrest.
It is always the same reaction to any crime. Make the victim take steps , expense to protect their investment, never go after the criminals, make them pay the price, in the form of higher fines and jail time.
Unfortunately jail time is incredibly expensive, costing taxpayers , there's no quick and easy solution to crime
@@johncford3957 yes there is, stop criminalising the victim when they exterminate the vermin.. self solving problem.
this year the police have higher budgets each year
@@internetpointsbank3728 not in California or any blue states that demand Defund the Police
Don't worry even if they are handed the criminal on a silver platter with video and admission of guilt the liberal judicial activist prosecutor will still let them go. People know they have nothing to worry about anymore. Except of course me dropping my car on their skull when they are under it. If I see anyone under my car I'm kicking the opposite side tire as hard as I can and laughing while the jack goes flying.
Should be easy to make this a national law and a federal crime. ID, Vin etc. or heavy fines.
The State of Texas is dragging their feet on this issue, why, who are lobbing the law makers to do nothing?
How to stop thieves from stealing your catalytic converters?
Police: “scoot them on to the next victim”
Till everyone listens.
It would have saved me $320.
Lol
Enough people do it and it slows them down.
Here in Maryland, I took two old deep cycling batteries to the recyclers. Had to give them my license, and they took my picture before the transaction. They said this was the law to prevent illegal scraping. Simple cure for Catalytic Converters, Batteries AC Coil and Copper Thieves. Should be done Nationwide.
They've been doing that for.many years now in Houston texas area even for recycled aluminum cans
@@AGRIMMDEATH13 cant in maryland we have real id they cant be faked
😆 thieves don't take stolen metals to legit scrap buyers.
almost impossible to justify having a cat all fed laws ignored how many people change them them selves there are hundreds shown on local face book all sawed off shops unbolt them
@@AGRIMMDEATH13 take 10 cats to a mainstream scrapyard without a business license and let me know how it goes
The last time this was going on they went to the buyers and made them have the sellers register their sales and that slowed it down by having to state where you got them and provide legal license for ID.
And should ask for Vehicle vin# for each cat.
I engraved "stolen by this thief" as deep as I could with my dremel!
Catalytic converter, thieves came for platinum but I only give them lead.
You gave them head instead?
@vidal77boxing simp?
Damn right
That's a good thing!
Equivalent exchange
If an oil change location was smart, they'd jump on the paint idea. Price it at 10 bucks
They would charge you $10 and not do it just like their oil and filter changes.
@@fernarias 😂😂
I can’t imagine paint deterring anybody. What they want is inside anyways.
@@delegate104 Not high temp paint baked on by the hot converter. I don't know what brake cleaner you are using but I doubt it comes off that easy. Just for kicks I'm going to do this to my beater truck just to prove myself right
@@fernarias 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
If judges gave full sentences and eliminated probation, people wouldn't do this.
Manufacturers need to get rid of them . Don’t need em !
Instead of asking law abiding citizens to do this and that, why can't they hand down much harsher punishments for pests caught stealing them??
Wouldn't work in urban areas. Crime and politics go hand in hand. City county and state politicians have a quid pro quo arrangement. Even if a thug does get arrested, they're out and the DA doesn't file charges.
Liberalism is the transfer of blame from the guilty to the innocent. You should have painted it bright orange, you dumbasss.
Democrats
@@waterheaterservices Don't they all early vote from jail now?
They instead punish citizens who take steps to protect their property. See what happens to you if you do any harm to a thief you caught in the act.
Imagine having a car that starts the engine from the key and see a guy trying to remove you catalytic converter and you just blast his eardrums
Not a bad idea. Nothing like a cold start.
Well I imagine most cars start from the damn key
@@MrPoot-cx9ez thinking same thing
@chak lee I touched a nerve with you haha!
Thats always in my head ,I got remote start and always keep my keys by the bed 🛌 ready to start anytime
I like how they say weld a cage on there that you would have to cut off every time to service it 🤦🏼♂️
You do realize that cat converters don’t break down that often? We’re talking about like 150,000 miles before you have to service one (minimum) and if you don’t drive like a taxi, that’s gonna take you at least 13 -15 years
In Tijuana, you can hear the sound of the cutter at around 4 to 6 am. I saw one guy shut at them while they took off on their pick up. And guns are ilegal. The police came but looking for the person that had fire the weapon, not the thief's.
Do what we did in the UK, no more cash in hand just bank transfer and have to have a Registered waste licence to scrap it.
Idk about a licence, you guys over there in the UK love your licenses
How well did it work?
Making it go underground will only make it even more expensive. You can't stop cash transaction. They only way is to do undercover sting operations to catch the sellers and buyers of obvious stolen converters.
OMG, thia apartheid Europe, there noone can live free...
@Dolan Rockwood 🤣🤣
There's only one thing to do with these people, INCLUDING the dirty scrap buyers.
You know what it is and it's NOT jail time.
When i stayed in Kiev , Ukraine long ago the city mafia collected tribute from the business owners but they did their job for it, the city streets were safe at night, if a business or it's customer was robbed or attacked, mafia justice was swift, no courtroom just the perp was beat bad or more. The crooks would rather had the police pick them up
You mean "get-a-rope!" ?
Give them a fine ⚡︎
They are total Bandits scrap yards junk yards Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
@@safffff1000 Unfortunately, Russia wants to raid Ukraine to destroy this functioning democracy and self determinance. They can't have functioning democracy right next door. Why do stupid Trumpsters traitors support Putin's Russia?!?!
Local radio ad “you work hard for your cats, get the most you can for them at XYZ recycling” I’m thinking “well, that’s not shady at all”. The VIN thing is a good idea but it would have to be stamped in, a couple of passes with a grinder would erase markings made with a buzz pencil engraver.
Etching the VIN onto a catalytic converter makes it traceable if stolen, but I don’t understand how painting it a bright color makes it any riskier or less attractive to thieves. Can someone please explain?
Dont't quote me, but I *think* it's an unofficial "rule" that if they're painted it means they were stolen. Sort of like the dye packs they put in the bag when thieves rob banks. Just something signifying it was stolen.
They stole your converter, and you bought another one, and you realised it fits perfectly!!
Shout out to the anchor lady looking like an attractive piece of winter fresh gum
She has Two big reasons
@@cruzdeleon1888 I noticed
@R S I dont mind some chunk but I hate cellulite
Damn I can only imagine what the AT&T girl was going through if this bodacious woman is getting checked out and gawked at but yea she is a good cuddle buddy!
Lmao that cool fresh breeze🙈
How long does it take to grind off an engraved number on a converter?
I don't do this because I never break the law, but someone once advised me to do the following: Whenever your Cats go bad, replace them but keep the old ones. Take the smog test with the new Cat, pass the test, then you can reinstall the old bad cat so that if it gets stolen, you don't have to dish out several hundreds or several thousands of dollars for a new Cat. Now, keep in mind, I don't recommend this because I'm not the kind of person that would advise any law abiding citizen (like me) to break the pollution laws. I'm just stating not to do what a person once wrongfully advised me to do ; )
Or make it a law that when a person's gets caught stealing a cat they get all their possessions stripped from them and 5 years in jail
Most cat thieves only own a bad meth habit and a cordless sawzall!
I stole my own and used it to pay for dual exhaust!
I had the same thinking when I cut mine off my first truck..got the catalytic down to the scrap yard and...they told me it was worthless. The honey comb had blown out into my muffler I guess..so that explained the noise in my muffler lol. Obviously cut that off too and had a shop weld the hollow cat and a flow master back in, sounds great!. Not to loud not to quiet👌 my plan for the catalytic scrap $ to cover the cost "backfired" on me lol ended up costing me 160$..lesson learned..dont count your money before ya got it👍
It is time for the car manufacturer to design a CC that is protected and can’t be removed so easily
I wonder if it would work to wrap a wire around the whole cat and if it gets cut an alarm starts and maybe even something that would spray them with something when it happens
Completely covering the catalytic converter area with a steel plate like was shown, even with a few holes like it had, is very dangerous. Cats run at a very high temperature and trapping that heat in could lead to a very bad time.
There are other cage designs out there that have been around for a few decades. Some involve a daisy chain method that wraps around the converter and permanently locks into place by special anti-tampering bolts. Most theives won't bother touching it because it takes too long to steal it.
I have customers rolling in with mud baked on, 1 to 2 inches of mud cooked on. the mud acts like an insulator keeps the cat warm in the winter and the summer time it keep me from getting burned.
YOU ARE CORRECT SIR, THE HEAT WOULD BE TRAPPED AND THE INTERIOR WOULD GET HOT, BAD IDEA, A SCREEN WOULD BE BETTER.
Why not implement a chainmail wrap? And if you have one, weld it onto your exhaust pipe before and after the cat. Or you can use the chainmail as a way to make that mesh so the cat can breathe. Most of the time these guys have that special metal pipe cutting tool on Amazon, the chain thing wraps around the pipe, three twists and it's off. So about 1 minute is all it takes to snatch a cat. You could also weld a cage around the cat, kind of like a milk carton. Use angle iron, weld a U box, connect the four bottom pieces and make a cross section. Make the ends of the U smaller than the cats diameter so if they manage to cut it, they can't take it out. I'm going to start suggesting this to all the truck owners I know... Lol.
@@GarronGoesGaming SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME.
I've installed airbags on my truck. Once it detect motion under the vehicle while off, it deflates and i have pancakes.
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Does deflating an airbag do the same thing as inflating one? I think your head is deflated, pancake maker. LOL
They can't steal your cats if you don't have any.
That news lady is pretty stacked
I caught one trying too steal, lowered the jack ,his friends took off ,left him there for awhile until I had too go too work ,kept the jack, he slowly walked away crying
They're easier to shoot under your auto you don't have to lead them as much
I totally agree!!
My thoughts as well!
Then back, forward, back, forward, repeat until mush. Send a message.
or just kick em in the nuts.....when they double up in pain, they knock themselves out.....allowing time for the po po to show up
Nah, just twist the handle of the jack leftwards a bit
Good reporting. I'll be doing that to protect my cat. Also, the reporter is stacked!
I worked for a fiberglass company and we worked in a plant in jersey that reclaimed the radium ( can't remember) from converters... We were x-rayed and searched when leaving because a cigarette pack of the material was about 60 grand... I was told.. and that doesn't Include all the ( other) precious metals...
"engrave your catalytic converter" .... 5 seconds with an angle grinder....
"Paint it"... A few more seconds longer... Or cheap acetone
Move to a non Mayate city and or state, and you won't have to worry!
I added a 'speed bump' in the driveway so that when I park my truck, it only allows for less than 3' of clearance from the Cat! 👍👍
Sadly that will not prevent them from stealing if vehicle is parked elsewhere. A experienced crew with the right tools can do it in 5 minutes.
@@eddienino8488 mine are hard they're tucked in the engine bay = impossible to take but i got full coverage just incase since it's 2,000 to replace both of them and only 100$ more every 6 mo
@@eddienino8488. Try 30 seconds!!
You fell for that scam called "insurance". Insurance companies will not replace them with oem parts. Also they'll simply raise your rates so you're actually paying them twice regardless.
that's why the tRUMP criminals carry a JACK with them . duh
I am blessed I own a 2016 Pro 4x Frontier & thankfully it has skid plates that will help prevent these thieves. I'm not saying they can't steal them but it would take alot more work. You guys with lifted trucks or thinking of getting a lift make sure you can get skid plates when you get you lift.
The problem is the owners of the scrap yards are bigger crooks than the crooks.
Having been hit twice over the years, nothing short of summary execution will stop converter thieves.
The first time my converter was stolen, my truck was at work. Thieves stole converters off every Toyota truck on the parking lot. Surveillance cameras allegedly must have been made by Sgt Schultz, as they saw nothing, nothing at all.
The second time my new truck was at the dealership for a recall campaign. Instead of parking the truck inside their gated storage lot, it was left outside. Thieves hit close to 15 trucks, stealing all four converters off the V8 powered trucks. Cost of factory new converters and pipes, $4500 per truck.
Sgt schultz A1 used cats
Execution? That's a lie. There are many other ways. If you support execution for that then that means that you are against the Constitution, you are against our constitutional rights.
Sue the dealership.
Did dealer pay for them all
@@glopan12345
The dealers insurance paid for the replacement as well as a rental for the three weeks it took to obtain the converters.
I cut the thief's hands off and give them back in the morning. Lmao
Nice,that should sort that out.well at least until a different thief comes along. Hehe, lol. or ED209 comes to mind.
Ike in the Middle East, cut hands off, no hands no stealing..
nah, cut off balls, thats even better
Friend was getting his fender skirts on his car stolen he taped razor blades on the reliese handle twice he would find blood on his car when they would try to steal them ,.
Great piece of reporting here!
I’d say a grid of electric fence string, with a 12v to HV transformer keeping it hot would do nicely. Run from a 18-20v tool battery for some extra “kick”
Maybe the city should use bait 🚙 too?
i don't see how painting your converter will deter theft. two things will make this stop. eliminate converters and make it legal to shoot anyone attempting to steal one off your car.
How about someone inventing a catalyst that does not use precious metals to work?
@@BobJones-fc3ef Good luck on trying to find enough materials that can handle that amount of heat cycles.
It's legal as long as they were threatening your life with the Sawzall they were holding.
The elimination of the internal combustion engine is already well on its way. EV's are the future.
It doesn't have to be legal to shoot them. Sometimes guns just go off on their own.
they dont even put them in jail
Engraved number? Like they don't have a grinder?
They would be in for a surprise if they tried to steal mine. Its hollow 🤣
Yes! First sign of blockage it gets the hammer and rod!
Been there done that.
What about emissions tests?
@@Mario_N64 I live in an area where they don't test. Otherwise yes, testing would be a problem.
Trouble is they will still cut it off and then find it empty.
Damage still done that you have to repair.
The legit scrap yards are "required" to vet sellers of scrap with identification. If a scrap yard receives large amounts of catalytic converters that have clearly been sawed off they should report it and supply the police with the recorded finger prints, photos and identifications of the seller. So why is this still going on? The scrap yards are either in on it, the sellers have a connection to bypass the city ordinances or they are going out of city ordinance jurisdiction to sell to smaller "mom & pop" scrap yards that dont care about where the scrap comes from. In the end money talks. Thevies got my catalytic converter about a year ago on a used truck i had bought a couple of years earlier, I came to find out that the one they had cut out and stolen was a replacement installed by the previous owner. When I called the police to file a report, I was advised that it is pretty much a lost cause to hope for justice unless it gains publicity. I guess now is that time.
I agree.
This video is over a year old and catalytic thefts are even higher. Whatever they are doing to prevent theft, it is not slowing down the thieves.
It’s the buyers who need to be arrested
How does the $6 come into play?
2000 degree spray paint is 3 to 4 times that!
Edit 12/14/21 : I may have to change my tone here, I bought the $18 2000 degree paint and found out that most of the outer part of the Cat is a shield that does not get near 1600 degrees, and that 500-degree paint might be fine!
Also when I painted mine I got a sheet of 3/4" vinyl letters and numbers from Dollar Tree and used them to put my Vin # on the Cat before painting, after the paint dried I peeled them off and went over them with my etcher. The number is very prominent!
I also got 15' of 5/16" steel cable and wove it around and threw holes in the frame and Cat shield loosely, hiding the cable clamps above the Cat. Anyone who has cut a steel cable with a hacksaw will know how difficult this will be for a thief under your car.
$6 for a hacksaw seems over priced.
I guess they're going off the fact you could cover a few cars' convertors with one can of paint, so pooling with a couple people on one can of paint.
I don't know. Maybe the $6 is the price for an engraver? I was trying to find where in the video where that cost came into play.
@@JosephHelmstetterinFlowerMound I think the reporter didn't do their homework, 500-degree high heat paint can cost only $6 but the cat runs at 1400 to 1600 degrees I think so now you have to buy 2000- degree paint for $20, still worth it to help keep thieves away. They got my wife's cat in a mall parking lot it cost us over $300 to replace with the cheapest one.
@@JosephHelmstetterinFlowerMound My local PD does the engraving for free. Call yours!
When I sold my old one, the scrap yard took a picture of my DL and registration, why is that so hard?
Because it's RACIST, just like VOTING, you should be able to scrap freely without being ID-ed. . . . :)
@@peterdarr383 That is NOT Party approved correct thinking and speech.
Meanwhile, the thieves they pay to rob cats, come in the back door.....
Maybe the scrapyard employees are stealing .....bypassing records laws
So if you etch the vin, that'll help them sell it?
The only way the Police can arrest thieves in possession of multiple converters is only when a partial VIN number is found on one or more converters.
Until better laws are passed giving more options to law enforcement, these criminals are protected.
Painting the converters is also very helpful to distinguish a stolen part.
Toyota Prius owners have quite few options for anti theft panels to protect their converters but trucks and other vehicles have limited availablity for the same protection.
How about we start making examples of the criminals when they get caught.
Knowing what punishment awaits them is a bigger deterrent than anything.
I agree, cement shoes.
It's probably a lot of junkies. They'd stab their grandma for their next fix.
Harder punishments don't work. Making them not having to steal does. Free education, free healthcare.
@@esaedvik we do have free education and Healthcare. Public Education and Obamacare. Rate of Cat theft still increases. Socialism is not the answer as there's still theft in Venezuela
@@esaedvik Why not free everything, I mean heck free food, free pu$$y, free cars and houses... oh wait, someone has to pay for that thru hard work and taxes.
I'm not interested in paying higher taxes so a junkie can get their fix, they can get a job like the rest of us and earn their way thru life.
I live in the Bronx, I've had 5 attempted vehicle break ins over the last year and had my catalytic converter stolen off my van.
The last guy had a better car than I did.
Need to hit the source , ie: the unscrupulous characters that are buying them no Questions asked .
If they didn’t buy them the thieves wouldn’t steal them .
That's like saying if people quit buying audio equipment, wheels, or anything else people want that people would quit stealing it because they couldn't sell it, it's not the buyers fault, it's criminals and thieves being lousy people, you don't seem to understand what is inside of catalytic converters, what those precious metals are worth, and that they can be recycled. If you want to blame somebody for catalytic converters being stolen, blame the EPA for requiring them in the first place
@@lumpyzx2645
Sorry I disagree, I know they’re worth money.
If your a scrap merchant and some guy says do you want to buy a ton of catalytic converters from a whole bunch of different cars. You’d have to be a complete idiot to not think for a moment that they’re stolen. Even if someone sells the odd one or two, anyone in a business should require some form of proof that these are genuine. Otherwise they’d be as much as a low life as the person who stole it, It’s Fuelling the whole vicious cycle. Catching one criminal gang today doesn’t stop the thefts .
The only way to stop the thrift is by making it harder for thieves to off load them.
If there’s nobody willing to buy them then it’s pointless for the thieves to even steal them .
@@mark-1rc502 I have a cat now that came off a 99 Subaru. I owned it, car was scrapped. I'm the owner...but I have no way to prove that. I helped a mechanic for years. I would collect his cats and sell them for him. (I would drive them to the largest cat buyer in the states. (They had the facility there that actually produced new after market converters). I again had no way to prove what cars the cats came from. If the re-manufacturers don't have the used cats to work with, the recycling concept shuts down. If only there were jobs out there for these thieves....
@@Dancing_Alone_wRentals
I get that , May be the Vin no. Can be etched on to the CAT And proof of Vehicle Scrapped ?🤷♂️
If the vin ground off don’t accept
@@mark-1rc502 It would be hard. The thieves would buy the etching tool, Harbor Freight would sell a battery powered clone, Carmax would provide them endless vin numbers to fake. A way to do it would be to have a dealer system for cats just like for guns. That level of documentation and scrutiny but I think people on a whole would not want it due to how it would drive up the costs
Today, you buy a cat...shell out big bucks, and it bolts on fairly easily. In the future only certified dealers could do the repair for you. Imagine the costs.
Probably easier to invent a motion alarm around the cat when the car is parked. (You know...you and I should do this....You can be CEO of this company, I'll be CFO)
I have a cheap solution! Remove your catalytic converter and replace it with a straight pipe with flange. The day of the inspection, you put it back on then, off again for another year. Put anti seize on the bolts to make the job easier the next time you remove it. High heat don’t affect the anti seize and it’s a good anti rust. The day the thief can no longer sell their loot, reinstall it permanently!
So what coat $6.00? The spray paint?
Beware, that the casing might cause the catalytic converter to overheat and get damaged or cause the vehicle to catch fire.
I live in Bavaria Germany and I‘m very happy to have a strong police fighting those criminals.
Sometimes it is perfect to live in a neighborhood, where people care and such thief’s have no margin that would encourage them to risk getting jailed.
Good for you... Here things are backwards.. these losers have more rights than the victims thanks to the progressive, communist, liberal globalist derailed dems, haters of America. Sad. Pray for America.
Civilized people in a homogeneous community is nice, we no longer have that here in the US.
Thieves are not going to be jailed under current administration. "soft on crime" policy
not sure about germany, but in america and also here in australia they are going to any area to commit crimes now.
they will get into gated communities with 24/7 on site security and steal all the cats before anyone realizes like it's oceans 11.
@paulalvarez8534 Cats get hotter when actually driving even with highway speed airflow.
Tig weld razor blades to your converter. Like a cacti shield.
Now this is the kind of thinking we need more of.
Too brittle... probably fall off after a week of driving
That's what we did to underdash 8 track players in the 70s.
Electrify it somehow!
Mr. Simplistic here:... When the law catches these creeps/thieves... Jail them a lot longer. Make them clean the toilets in nursing homes....Oh wait that would be cruel and unusual. What was I thinking ?
Yeah, leave that to hard working honest people who have never committed a crime in their lives.
Any scrapyard willing to give money to the guy who's there three times a week with cats to sell wont worry about the etched vin or spray paint. They're just as guilty as the actual thieves. They'll pull the precious metals and throw the bright orange metal exterior away to make a quick buck
You could put books in a circle around your cars those thieves are terrified of books.
Stacks of job applications and drug rehab pamphlets.
They are just trying to feed their families remember? Leave cans of food under your car so they take those instead
@@stuckgrenadepin.225 Job applications, you heartless bastard. We are just trying to scare them away not give them heart attacks.
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 we aren’t?
Put work boots around your car, thugs will never come near it.
I have a “craniac converter” works decent when rearranging skulls
I call mine a Bitch be Good
How does the vin# catch the thief? If it traces back to the owner?
I did see a Mercedes on bricks last year £100 in alloy or £1,000 on eBay - it is crazy.
In the UK you have to provide driver's licence, car/van registration and bank details to the scrap merchant to get an account then payments are only made to your bank. It has helped reduce the theft of lead from church roofs, aluminium road signs and the like.
Remember when thieves were stealing bronze memorial flower urns from cemeteries? Now they're worthless, because junk dealers won't buy them... 🌷🌷🌷
So are aluminum half barrels. Scrap yards by me won't take and distributors will only take there own back with proof.
The cat was cut out from my friend's Prius a few months ago. He bought cheap aftermarket and installed it just so the car wouldn't throw any error codes and make it quiet. A couple of weeks ago the same thing happened again. Twice in 3 months. The same car.
That's infuriating!
He needs to move if the thievery is that bad in his area.
1000 volts. Get a solar powered electric fence unit,
The newer cats bring in less money a lot less if an experienced thief sees an aftermarket they usually won’t touch those you might get 8.00 for one, I used to do Cash For Junk Cars several years ago and I was stunned on how little they bring, I stopped cutting them off, it wasn’t worth it and the junkyards were always happy to see them still on
Didn't someone get electrocuted trying to steal a cat from a prius? At least, hopefully it't true.
This needs to be a FEDERAL law
It's like a " no questions asked" or a "don't ask, don't tell" situation between buyers and sellers.
they sell them on facebook...
facebook must STOP that
In FL, the scrapyards already have the required verification in place.
I was at a UPS storefront in Lake City Fl. a few months ago and I saw a couple of guys bring boxes of used cut out catalytic converters and had UPS ship them out. I called and reported it to the Sheriff's office.
Did cops catch ?
@@karenl.1695 I didn't stand around waiting for the cops to show up. Figured the detectives would have to investigate who's sending stolen CC out etc.
Just make it a death penalty offense for anyone called stealing or selling catalytic converters you can end the crime overnight.