Visiting The Gravesite Of INTERSEX HERO Casimir Pulaski In Savannah Georgia
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- Historians believe that General Casimir Pulaski, an American Revolutionary war hero, who saved the life of George Washington, was intersex. Meaning, he lived as a man, but had both male and female genitals.
While rare, Intersex is part of the LGBTQIA alphabet which includes all individuals who are often discriminated against because of their sexuality.
Pulaski is buried in Monterey Square, in downtown Savannah, Georgia (although not everyone agrees that this is really his grave).
#intersex #queer #casimirpulaski
Born in Chicago, I do remember a Pulaski Ave. A Polish neighborhood and I’m sure no one knew this story, including myself. Just can’t get enough of our LGBTQIA+ history. Thanks for sharing this! ❤ Paul
Glad you enjoyed it Paul! 👍
Hi Steve, I am aware of Pulaski from history. But, I think that perhaps you have not done the homework on this one. The following is taken from Wikipedia, with the needed citations.
In 1853, remains found on a bluff above Augustine Creek on Greenwich Plantation were believed to be the general's. These bones were reinterred at the Casimir Pulaski Monument in Savannah, Georgia. They were exhumed in 1996 and examined during a forensic study.[54] The eight-year examination, including DNA analysis, ended inconclusively, although the skeleton was consistent with Pulaski's age and occupation. A healed wound on the skull's forehead was consistent with historical records of an injury Pulaski sustained in battle, as was a bone defect on the left cheekbone, believed to have been caused by a benign tumor.[55] In 2005, the remains were reinterred in a public ceremony with full military honors, including Pulaski's induction into the Georgia Military Hall of Fame.[56]
A later study funded by the Smithsonian Institution, the results of which were released in 2019, concluded from the mitochondrial DNA of his grandniece, known injuries, and physical characteristics, that the skeleton was likely Pulaski's.[57] The skeleton has a number of typically female features, which has led to the hypothesis that Pulaski may have been female or intersex.[58][59][60] A documentary based on the Smithsonian study suggests that Pulaski's hypothesized intersex condition could have been caused by congenital adrenal hyperplasia, where a fetus with female chromosomes is exposed to a high level of testosterone in utero and develops partially male genitals. This analysis was based on the skeleton's female pelvis, facial structure and jaw angle, in combination with the fact that Pulaski identified as and lived as male.[55][61]
However, there is no conclusive argument or evidence that Pulaski was intersex.[62] The question remains unsettled due to the limited understanding of how an intersex condition might be revealed in the analysis of a skeleton.[63] There is no way to prove that Pulaski was born intersex without a DNA test.[64][d]
Also I would like to add that I spoke to a friend of mine after this video. This person is intersexed, I was only told this after knowing them for 30 years. And not all intersexed people refer to themselves as LGBTQ. Perhaps the newer generations, but not much of the older generations. Just something to think about. Peace...
Thank you for a thorough explanation of this rarely heard about condition.
Hi Stacy, yes I saw all of these articles online before I did the video. I thought I said that it was in conclusive and that historians believed this to be true but that it might not be. Maybe I wasn’t real clear about that. Thanks for sharing this here for others who might not have seen those articles. I also said that he was a member of the LGBTQIA community and that the I in the alphabet stands for intersex. Lots of older and younger people don’t want to be identified or lumped in with this group, which is fine. But some do, so that’s why the initials were created. Thanks for watching and taking the time to share. 👍
First to like from Gettysburg Steve me and my wife wanna say your the best on you tube ❤❤
Thank you Alex 😄👍
"However, there is no conclusive argument or evidence that Pulaski was intersex. The question remains unsettled due to the limited understanding of how an intersex condition might be revealed in the analysis of a skeleton. There is no way to prove that Pulaski was born intersex without a DNA test."
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Great job Steve ❤❤❤😮😮😮😊😊😊
Thanks Wanda!
I love the movie, Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.
Thanks again for sharing, Steve
Thanks for watching John! 👍
Hey Steve...very interesting as always and I never knew the story...by the way, as an old professional editor..."conformed" is correct n the wording on the monument - the bones conformed or matched the expected condition of Casimir...I just had to! LOL T hanks again!
Thanks William 😄👍
I recognized the name immediately. I was born in Philly and every year there is a Pulaski day parade in Philadelphia. In addition, he met George Washington in Philadelphia. He has many ties to colonial Philly.
Thanks for sharing that with us Mitch. It boggles my mind that he is so famous in the Midwest and East Coast and I have never heard of them all here on the West Coast! 😲🙃
Good morning! From this Italiano lady! From the east coast! Great video always! Good week to you ahead!! 💁🏼♀️🌴☘️🌞
Thank you Linda and the same to you. 😄👍
Hi Steve...this was an interesting and informative story of Pulaski....never heard of him...now I have ....thanks for vlogging...have a great day ..... Deborah 🇨🇦
Thanks Steve
Thanks Deborah 😄👍
Hi Steve, I was raised near Savannah, so this is really cool. There is also a Fort Pulaski. I assume named after him. Thanks for sharing!❤
Thanks for sharing that with us Susan! 👍
I need to make a trip to Savannah soon, it is only 4 hours away from me, your video has given me more incentive to go.
Hope you do Macca. It’s well worth the trip! 👍
We have Pulaski County here in KY. Some said he was female and posed as male. Perhaps he/she was indeed intersex. We need to know to raise awareness and understanding of all LGBTQ folks.
Absolutely Suzi! Thanks for sharing with us. 😄👍
I’m 100 w you Steve. First, history is history. To remember, we must know share all details including the ones that might appear uncomfortable to some. Secondly, I think Savannah is one of the most beautiful, interesting cities in our country. Would like to see it someday. If someone asked me pick a city to live, money not an option, it would definitely be Savannah. Thank you for sharing its beauty this morning!
Thanks NV, I hope you get to visit one day. 😄👍
Thank you for telling his story
Thanks for watching Beth!
Thanks for the video Steve. I love history, beautiful towns and cemeteries. Your videos never disappoint
Glad you enjoyed it Dawn! 😄👍
Growing up in Baltimore, MD, we learned of Gen Pulaski. Rte 40 which runs through Baltimore is called Pulaski Highway. There is a strong Polish presence in Baltimore. I have never heard this story.
We also learned of the Marquis de Lafayette who fought for our freedom. I live in Havre de Grace, which was supposedly named by Lafayette.
Thanks for sharing this with us K! 😄👍
I suspect the 1930s New Jersey politicians never heard of this when they named the elevated highway between Newark and Jersey City "The Pulaski Skyway".
I bet you are right Calhoun. 😲👍
Beautiful cemetery. Yes, we need to hear this. How are we to learn if we don't hear things? Great video. I enjoyed it. You and Jim take care.
Exactly! Thanks Maria! 😄👍
Wonderful video Steve! I spent a number of weeks working in Savanah, GA back in the 1980's. I loved that little city. So quaint but very "southern." Those are very interesting stories you told today. I mean, I had no idea and I watched the movie, Midnight in the Garden of Good & Evil! I swear, I was no naive, I must have lived in la la land half the time. ♥️🇺🇲
Lol sometimes naïve can be a good thing Janet! I’m envious that you actually got to live there for a while! 😄👍
Im not a member of the lgbtq+ community but love your videos and love the history learning all about it. Thanks for the videos Steve!
Thank you. That’s nice to hear! 😄👍
I would love to visit Savannah. It looks so pretty in pictures. I read the book about the garden ...I liked it very much. I had heard a version of the story about this person. Our teacher had said that this was a woman dressed as a man. Either way it is good to know these things. It seems that they were accepted for who they were. Acceptance is always a good thing. We all should be accepted for ourselves and not feel that we have to hide who we are. That is why I no longer associate with some of my family. I refuse to have someone in my home that makes my daughter feel uncomfortable. It is just not going to happen.
You sound like a very good mom Debbie. Your daughter is very lucky to have you. And the world could definitely use a lot more Debbies! 😄👍
Hi Steve, it is my understanding that the Mercers, including Gen. Hugh Mercer who had it built, never lived in the house. I think they sold it by the time it was finished, but it has been called the Mercer House for quite a while and maybe more b/c of Savannah's most beloved son, Johnny Mercer. Glad you like SAV. I have friends that live on Skidaway Isl. about 20 mins drive from SAV and have visited them often. We also went to SAV twice just after the film was made & saw Emma Kelly perform & the Lady Chablis as well. RIP to both of them.
Thanks for sharing this with us rmn. Oh awesome do you have a connection like that and that you got to see the lady Chablis perform live! 😄👍
Thanks Steve !. Enjoyed. My family has visited Savannah G.A many’s times . Love it there .👍🤩👋🐊🪦
Glad you’ve been there too Kat!👍
@@theretiredlifewithsteve Thank you.We did a Ghost👻 Tour one time . Beautiful place , drenched in history , great places to eat . We also was checking the college out for my oldest daughter. But unfortunately we missed our appointment by only 10 minutes 😵💫⛴🏝🪦🐴🌴🪴💧🍑
Another interesting video. I'd never heard of Gen. Pulaski before. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks for watching Carolyn!
It looks absolutely beautiful Steve history of your country all around you , I will never visit the USA so I always love seeing the country through your eyes, thanks Steve 😊
Thanks Angela, glad you enjoyed it! 😄👍
Love History ! "Ambiguous Genitalia"
What an interesting video! I remember the name but I didn't realize there was so much history behind it. Thank you. 😊
Glad you enjoyed it Renee!
Fort Pulaski is also named after him. It is on the coast off Savannah and within the National Park Service.
That’s awesome. Thank you for sharing that with us Mikal! 😊👍
We always has Pulaski Day off of school in Chicago and never knew who he was. Thanks for this history lesson. So sad they took away the holiday. I drive down Pulaski everyday. Thank you! I swear i enjoy these videos because of the history lesson❤❤❤
Hi Ava, thanks for sharing that with us. I had no idea he was so popular in the Midwest and on the East Coast. That is awesome! 😄👍
Great video Steve !!
Thanks Ettore👍
This is the first I have heard of him.
I met a hermaphrodite once in the 1990s. He had perfect female and male parts. I saw them on medical scans. It does happen
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing that with us 1!
Cool history in Savannah. Thanks Steve!
Glad you liked it Mary 👍
If you go to Laurel Grove, be sure to check out Laurel Grove South: across from Laurel Grove in an African American neighborhood. The two sections are separated by highway coming into Savannah. Many slaves buried there.
I really like your show from Savannah. I lived there for 7 years. I always fascinated by all the information placks placed in all the Square. I hope you got to enjoy River Street. There is also a Fort named after Casimir Pulaskijust East of Savannah going to Tybee Island. I lived in Savannah over by Forsyth Park, when they filmed Misnight in The Garden Of Good and Evil.
Hi March, I am envious that you lived there for seven years. That is awesome. Thanks for sharing with us. 😄👍
@@theretiredlifewithsteve you are welcome. It really made me happy to see some of the places that I use to hang out at.
Wow! What a beautiful place. Someday I'll make it outside the Midwest. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching 😎👍
No i never heard of him but thank you for his story.
Thanks for watching Sally 👍
I watch a lot of powered by rainbows and your channel as well. I think it’s awesome that you came across that channel as well. It’s a really good channel.
Hi Shane, that’s neat to hear that we both watch them. I love hearing about gay history and they do an excellent job! 😄👍🏳️🌈
I love your channel as well. I learn alot from you. Beautiful places that you cover keep up the great work. If you ever get to go too. Louisiana there is a grave in one of their cemeteries and I can’t remember what the name of it is but there is a little girl that was a devout Catholic and apparently she performed miracles in life and apparently she’s still performing miracles and death and a lot of people go to her gravesite for healing, I saw it on a CZcams channel recently. The little girls nickname that they gave her is Cajun Saint and apparently she died of a rare leukemia. If you go on CZcams and look up Lamont at large he did a story on it. It’s just a fascinating story.
I've lived in Savannah since 1977, & YES it is a beautiful city full of history & even "ghosts". Downtown IS expensive, but pretty reasonable on the outskirts of the city. Weather is not too bad. I love it here!!
Thanks for sharing with us Janet. You are definitely living in one of the most beautiful cities in the country. 😄👍
Hi Steve this was very interesting this was something I hadn’t heard off this man before
Glad you enjoyed it Kathleen 👍
Thanks Steve.
Thank you Maryellen! 👍
Savannah. Ga is just beautiful!!! There is so much history there!!
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General Pulaski is a familiar historical figure in Illinois as there is even a county that bears his last name in far Southern Illinois, and there is also a Village of Pulaski in Pulaski in Pulaski County Illinois. Our regional schools began giving the General special recognition several years ago with special educational programs each year focusing upon some of his accomplishments.
Thanks for sharing that with us Kevin. I wish they had taught us about him when I was in school here in California. 👍
are these videos u did in the past, i know some videos u post are from where u live and then the next day ur in georgia , im like either u travel a lot or u did these earlier in the year
Hi John, I thought I mentioned at the beginning of the video that this was filmed on my 2022 road trip. This is the first time I’m sharing it though. The reason I’m sharing it now is because I mentioned it in my last video. Sorry for the confusion. 😄👍
Casimir Pulaski Day is observed in Illinois. first Monday in March.
Wow, he even has his own day. Awesome. Thanks for sharing that with us Phineas! 😄👍
Very interesting!
In the late 70s or early 80s, Jim Thompson the then Govenor of Illinois decided he needed the Polish vote. Thus his birthday was a state holiday in Illinois for a period of time.
How interesting. Thanks for sharing that with us Randy. 😄👍
I happen to read about General Pulaski somewhere along the line. Steve I don't remember if maybe an autopsy was involved? Or maybe his clothes had to be taken off to see if the wounds could be treated?
That was my guess too Chad! 👍
Thanks you
Thank you too!
Come coming from Chicago we all know who Pulaski is. In fact I used to live off of Pulaski literally, it’s a street back home.
That’s awesome Tracy. I’m glad I finally know about him. Thanks for sharing that. 😄👍
Such a pretty town & I’m not really a fan of Georgia. Very interesting and your informative videos are wonderful. 👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thank you so much Tex! 😄👍
You have the right Jefferson Davis house
Thanks CM!
Beautiful cemetery ❤❤❤
I'm a history buff so I love hearing about all history.
I’m happy to hear that Lisa 😄👍
Steve. Did you know that Matthew Shephards mother got a metal at the White House from Prrsident Biden for her work in the GLTBQ community?
Hi Norma, yes I was so happy to hear the news the other day. Thank you for mentioning it here though, since I’m sure not everyone has heard the news. 😄👍
Pulaski was only 5'2", never married or had children. Monterey Square during WW2 is were gay men came to hang out and cruise. The cruising continued at Monterey Square til the internet and apps faded it away. The police would raid the square sometimes just to harass the gays. Savannah was very gay in the 60's 70's and 80's. All those antebellum townhouses were occupied by hippies and gays and old timers and eccentrics. That was real Savannah. but that era is gone.
Thanks for sharing that with us S! It’s so interesting to learn about the history of certain areas that you don’t find in history books lol! 😄👍
Good morning
Good morning Martha 👋
Isn’t Savannah a beautiful city. Very unusual as well. Natives of Savannah have a distinctly different southern accent. As one of the 13 original colonies, it was on my bucket list. Doesn’t appear I will be able to experience the unusual and beautiful city as I no longer travel. Who knows. Things change. Thank you, Steve.
Thanks for sharing Cynthia and hopefully one day you will be able to travel there. Like you say you never know. 🤞 If not at least we are lucky to have so many great CZcams videos with you tubers traveling all over the world and sharing their experiences. 😄👍
There's a marker here in Columbia S.C.that talks of a Pulaski and I think it says died in defense of Savannah..thanks for the information
Hi Rupert, that is awesome that he is so remembered in the Midwest and on the East Coast. Too bad he’s not very well known out here on the West Coast. 🙁
@@theretiredlifewithsteve don't recall much revolutionary war action in East L.A.🤣🤣🤣
Hi Steve, do you know about the Steuben Parade im New York? Steuben was born in Magdeburg, Germany. There is also a statue of him there. ❤
Hi Ingrid, no I didn’t know about it. Thank you for sharing that with us. On my road trip to the East Coast a couple of years ago I really wanted to visit a statue, but I just ran out of time. So many amazing places to see and so little time lol! 😄👍
@@theretiredlifewithsteve Ah yes, I know that feeling. Hugs to you both 🤗🤗
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Hermaphrodite doesn't necessarily mean LGBTQ. These individuals could be completely straight, one way or the other, but they just have both reproductive organs. For those that don't know, this is a rare condition.
Hi Paul, thank you for sharing this. The I in LGBTQIA is for intersex. I don’t know who came up with all of these initials, but intersex individuals have been included in the LGBTQ+ Community for many years. I guess it’s just an umbrella for most, if not all, all sexual minorities.
Keep talking about gay people it’s ok to be gay we both live in free country and we have the right to be gay or straight I am straight myself what is my choice
Thanks Stephen, you seem to be one of the rare straight people who understands that being straight is not a choice just like being gay is not a choice. We are all born however we are born and there’s nothing wrong with either. 👍
So we are born like are we?
In his era, I think he would be mortified this information was telecasted all over. What a shame you thought it was needed to let out his secret.
Your statement makes it clear that you assume it’s a bad thing that needs to be kept a secret. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being intersex. Is the way some people are born and there is no shame or embarrassment attached to it. You might want to ask yourself why you think it’s a bad thing.
Too many pronouns today.