CAN I SAVE MY £800 COPART VOLVO XC90? PART 2
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Time for part 2 of me, a complete amateur attempting to carry out repairs on my £800, 300,000 mile Volvo XC90 that I bought from auction at Copart, to get it through it's MOT...
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Good work mate. This is the most accurate representation of "working on your car" on all of youtube.
Isn't it great when 2 of your favourite unrelated CZcamsrs interact?
Thank you Mr Motorway!
Mate: that ball joint is fine - it just rotated on it's ...ball :)
Also when it comes to ABS sensors: get cheap OBD reader to determine which wheels isn't reading the speed then try swapping sensor only from other side. If it reads ok, then you know to buy wheel speed sensor (£20-ish a pop, no worries). If the wheel speed isn't being detected then check wires carefully before ripping into ABS rings.
Ask me how I know.
BTW Your channel is an excellent representation of how car tinkering REALLY looks like.
I agree: The rings are just "serrated rings"... there's nothing to wear out: They get rusty and clogged with debris....and that causes the false signals.
Just clean the rings....restore the serrations.
Ball joint supposed to do that. Also while changing control arm you should remove drive shaft bolt and loosen up the shaft so it could move in and out, otherwise you might pop cv joint out and have whole new problem. Also, you need to beat the control arm with much more power to spearate it from ball joint (same with outer steering rods or driveshaft). Good luck and keep up the good work, man.
You can't bend a ball joint!! There's nowt wrong with it!!
@@bernardcromarty485 That's what I thought too! The pin, connected to the ball, was merely askew..... at the extreme of it's travel maybe.... but: Nowt Wrong With It!
Ball joints work as a ball in a socket so it can move like that the socket deterrents over time creating play in the suspension that u can feel at the steering wheel
I remember very well the first time working on my suspension with an experienced mate.. I had to bang the stuff so hard...
I learned an important lesson that day : It is way easier to smack the crap out of someone else's car than your own xD
I've had Volvo V70 7 of em done loads drops links you should find now there's Allen key sockets on ball was on last so remove without spinning
It’s refreshing to see an honest video on trying to repair a car by someone who admits he may not know exactly what to do but is willing to give it a try. Kudos to you Joel and can’t wait for your next video!
Top work the bent ball joint made me laugh it’s meant to move around like a joint but your learning and what your doing for a beginner aren’t easy jobs
Thanks I’ve learned this now! 😂
It's not bent it just needs putting in a vice and use a tube to move it back to center!
This is how every half hour job in my head turns into a multi hour/weekend job😅
Literally!
You are either incredibly patient or cleverly edited out all the parts where you lost it and threw a spanner through a window
Mostly the latter
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@@itsjoel
What a guy! Fair play Joel. I’m about an hour away and would happily point you in the right direction! Lost count of the amount of jobs I’ve done on our old xc90
Hi Adam... well I have a Xc90-V8.... it has a host of problems at the moment....Unfortunately, I'm on the other side of the world....not "an hour away"....
Volvo for life: Indeed..... When I drive it... I'm in heaven. But it's laid up at the moment...... so not happy at all. 😪
(On the plus-side... The V8 Yamaha purrs beautifully..... not a drop of oil does it use. Nor does it even change colour....a masterpiece of engineering.)
@patagualianmostly7437 the V8 is Yamaha manufactured, Volvo designed. So you can say Volvo V8 :)
I feel for you Joel, it's pretty brave to take on that much work with no real experience. Loads of us have been there and feel your frustration, well done and I hope it all pays off. 👋
Brave effort Joel. Think that ball joint is ok, just moving as it should. Working on this sort of stuff always makes me feel I haven't enough hands! Good luck for the rest of the work. Great, very watchable content.
Well done, you remind me of how I had to learn the hard way as a young guy… I had forgotten how it felt until I watched you. Do not feel defeated, you are doing it and have the right ideas. Replacing extra pieces in the suspension and doing both sides at the same time is absolutely SAFE and wise, yes fitting it takes time to learn but you are doing well.
If replacing old parts on a car and replacing the bolt nut etc get yourself a grinder, old rusty bolts come of 100 times easier when you chop them 😊 also with drive shafts, losen the bolt about a third of the way then hit the bolt this will shock the shaft and free it up, dont losen the bolt to much as you can potentially damage the thread. And get yourself a real hammer 🔨 😉 more videos like this too, best way to learn is do it yourself and overcome the issues as they arise!
Si Robb has really helpful tutorials for most of the things you've encountered.
Never underestimate the power of heat, ie blow torch. 👍
At this point in his learning process, I think he needs to stay away from anything that could burn him or the garage down.
@@pclayton5063 For this very reason, I splashed out on an induction heating tool. Not cheap but one of the most useful things I've ever bought. It makes heating up bolts in a confined space so much safer.
@@rb9580. Do you mind me asking what model induction heater you bought?
@@pclayton5063😂😂😂
Great video of someone who is only human ! Keep it up, you have a fan who wants to see this finished, a man who recently wrote on a Volvo facebook advert about the £84,000 price tag on a new 90, "Who on EARTH can afford one of these ?"....They didn't answer or acknowledge !!!
More ppl need to fix their own cars, well done Joel! 👏👏
The ball joints are meant to move like that, they are just very stiff when new. Sometimes you need to move it to easier align with the control arm. You can also jack up the knukle to easier align the control arm. But damn well done for doing work yourself! These xc90's are rubbish, but fantastic when running right!
A bit of advice from someone that had to learn how to fix cars all by myself near enough. The best thing you need is a Haynes manual. Nevermind icarly or all these Bluetooth code readers. Get sponsorship from Haynes, because with a physical copy it'll not only help you diagnose a problem it'll tell you how to fix it. Step by step, easy peasey.
Fair play to you tackling this and not going the easy route of having someone shadow you or the other wau round. I've got a set of control arms to replace on my mum's car when I'm back onshore and I'll be sweating like an old docker.
I just did my abs rings on an S60, which is the same drive shaft set up. I took the brake caliper, housing and disc off, and the hub came forward with total ease. I think I saw you take the hub bolt off, so that's ok. My control arm was still attached, so I just pushed down on it and it came away no probs.
Easy to smack the old ring off, but as I mentioned before, clean the area really well and heat the new one up to expand it, then knock it on using the old one so as not to damage it.
a pro tip when tightening the lower wishbone nuts. Do it when its on the floor or the bushes will ripe and fail very quickly.
Great video, don't knock yourself, you've done really well with this. Soon be doing engine swaps!
Ball joint is meant to do that, it pivots, you should be able to move it into position with your hand or use something as leverage.
Oh my, been there done that! Empathize fully with you, but you are so right - what you have learned is that you can do it yourself - you have an aptitude you can build on now. It gets easier with time and then you take on more complex tasks. I just finished a timing chain on a Mercedes engine - not a job for the average diy mechanic, but because of starting off like you I worked my way here. The immense satisfaction you get doing it yourself and saving big $$$ will have you sold on doing more. You will also develop a close "relationship" with your car, and it makes it that much more difficult to part with it when you've but all your own blood sweat and tears into it. Anyway, good going - I felt rather proud of you if I may say! All the best, look forward to episode 3.
Joel when you’re next on the Isle of Wight your have to pop to my unit and I’ll teach you a few things over a weekend . There’s so much there you could have done easier. It’s good you’re learning tho we all start somewhere and you pick an xc90 as a start . Good lad 😂
I’m a great believer when it comes to dismantling the suspension of replacing as much as I can and always in pairs, near side AND offside. For the price of a ballpoint or a set of bushes it’s false economy to not replace them altogether.
Just recently fixed two cars with 'ABS light' issues, cleaned both the sensor and ring with brake cleaner and voila two weeks later still no issues. Cheap and simple fixes and should always be tried first, even if it means fitting a new ABS sensor which cost around £10 each. If that doesn't fix it then try a new ring. Don't always take the garage's diagnosis as gospel.
Another great video Joel, I applaud your efforts and feel your pain. My neighbours are convinced that I have anger issues, as when I work on my cars there is often much swearing and random tools flying out of the garage door onto the drive! Keep at it, youre doing great.
Nice one Joel - I would recommend you don't use your torque wrench as a ratchet, otherwise it will lose its accuracy 👍
Also, if you need to hit the end of the drive shaft, put the nut back on and then hit the nut to avoid mushrooming the shaft.
I share your frustration - doing work on a car with this age / mileage was never going to be easy
Thanks for the tip!
I do feel your pain - there is nothing so frustrating as being half way through a job and realising that you need a different part or tool - and it usually happens when the shops are shut. My days of working on cars are long gone but I experience similar when doing DIY jobs around the house - so frustrating coming to a grinding halt with everything disassembled.
Thing is the mixed emotions the frustration when something is not moving, but the satisfaction when it finaly moves it will all be worth it when you are driving the car knowing you have sorted it all out, you will get there
Great idea hiring a garage out to get these jobs done, I’ve done them on the drive in the rain before and it’s a right pig of a job. Keep up the hard work, it will all be worth it in the end 💪🏻
Ball joints are meant to move.
You would have to really whack it to bend it. At least your having a bash and will learn along the way.
Friendly advice Joel, don't use a torque wrench for undoing, tightning only! Great job otherwise though :)
hats off to you Joel! A much needed content when all others just put happy uplift tunes onto clips of them (or even someone else) doing the work and not entirely telling the whole story. Ngl I'm fed up with every repair YT'er diving into project after project not really seeing the end results, and wondering when is when. This series is just pure honesty
Great video mate, just mind its all a learning curve for you! Also i dont think that ball joint was bent, it has just moved as a ball joint should and you could move it back straight again, dont bin it. For the drop links theres usuallly an allen keyy hole in the front to stop it just spinning so you van undo it woth a sapnner or a spanner into a groove on the rear, if that fails angle
grinder it outa there
your are right about the ball joint, its meant to move
That’s good to know! Thought I’d broken it… appreciate the advice & thank you for watching
This is a true representation of DIY mechanic on an old car. Everything 'should' be easy but every nut you even think about lookibg at is seized.
Great job, great to see you tackling these jobs. Careful putting them ball joints back into the knuckle, your not meant to use the bolts to pull them in as you can strip the female threads and you will be in the shit, better tapping them in with an oversize socket or something similar. Also when you need to lover those control arms over the ball joints a big length of 4x4 ratchet strapped to the control arm and a mate standing on the other end will get it down for you 😊
Mate - wife has an XC60 & replaced lots of suspension bits or rear springs, bushes etc… but IMO the front lower control arms & springs are under so much tension I gave up… so good on ya for succeeding.
Most bits are surprisingly easy to dismantle.
Until you’ve owned a Volvo… you’ll never understand the love
Well done for saving her 👍
Drop links ....brake the ball out of the casing then grab the ball with some vice grips anchor the grips undo the nut easy...your replacing them anyway so dont worry about destroying them. and the ball joint is what it says its a ball in a joint it wasnt bent just moved in the casing 😉
Fantastic content - I’m really engrossed in what you’re doing, so much more so than in your usual style of video. It’s great that you’re learning so much about the workings of the car. Whatever the eventual outcome this won’t have been a wasted endeavour.
I hope you’re finding time to read these comments, because some of them contain some really good practical advice - from people who obviously have experience of doing these sort of jobs.
Top tip. A screw driver in the brake disk then rotate until it touches the caliper will stop rotation mate instead of the brake pedal
The ball joint is supposed to move about .but as a beginner i guess ur learning .love the volvo brand between me and my family weve been through the whole catalogue of models from the 240 to the R models to the t5-r.keep learning an keep doing ur own work an remember you tube is full of education.
It helps to get the right tools! On a rusty old car clean the exposed threads with a wire brush, a big durga durga gun helps.
My pet Volvo mechanic changed the bushes on one side of my S80. Had a hell of a job, said he wouldn't do it again, but just change the lower control arms as one piece.
Ball joints are supposed to move like that ,don’t panic 👍👍👍
Great videos mate. Couple things. When I am changing the drop links I usually just cut the old ones off instead of wasting the time trying to get the nut off. The control arm I would jack the suspension up and will give you more room to play with but just watch you don't start jacking the car up at a certain point. 👍
Great video. The frustration in palpable although, as you have already said, you have learned a lot by doing this. Looking forward to the next chapter.
Joel, that new ball joint that was not aiming straight down. You should be able to move it back so its facing down. It'll be stiff but it will move. If you've got it still try it. They're not in a fixed position. I moved my Z4s ones to get them in to the hole. They're stiff which is a good thing.
I've got to replace my nearside wishbone on the Z4 as the ball joint failed the mot
This takes me back to when I could not afford to take cars to a dealership and worked them myself, discovered ball joint splitters, bearing pullers, and other specialist tools along the way. The night before I got married I was stuck in a shared garage trying to fix my VX490, about 10pm! I gave up and left the vehicle. Since then it has always been to the dealership. Great learning curve, know the battles you can win.
I can relate to how you are feeling, working on my own cars started off much same, but you learn by doing. Next time you try you will be better prepared. A rotary powered wire brush to take rust off bolts and threads, a big hammer and some kind of puller kit goes a long way when working on suspension.
You need to use heat to expand the abs ring to slide it over the driveshaft end.
The ball joints are ment to move, they dont bend.
Great to see you moving up the learning curve my man, we've all been there. You'll be rebuilding engines before you know it. Stick at it! 👌👌👌
Just stick a decent screw driver in the vented part of the discs to stop it spinning 👍🏼
no dont do that, you can damage the disc. put two wheel bolts back in, then you can use a bar across them to stop the hub turning
😂 no sure what discs you’re working on. Been doing that’s donkeys years on very stubborn shaft bolts no problem.
Well done sir , you growing in skills , tools , and experience, keep the content coming
Thanks, will do!
Good to see all the positive feedback , I'm a bit like you and I'm 67 learning the dark arts of welding and shifting rusted nuts . My only advice is patience a good heat gun and try and stop for a brew before the' big hammer' comes out, took me a while to learn that one as my friendly mechanic will tell you. Well done .
Hi Joel, thank god I'm not the only one that gets many problems when I try to repair my 20 year old car. I can completely understand where you are coming from as I try to do similar stuff on my old BMW x5 which I love dearly. You fix one problem & then realise when its all back together that you have missed some component out & have to strip it down again. Look forward to part 3 & good luck with it.
No need to use the brake pedal to jam the front wheels just drop a screwdriver into the cooling fins on the disc and jam it up against the brake caliper.
Get a grindette and cut the drop link off, just make sure new ones have new bolts. If the ABS rings are showing no damage leave them alone
Use a blowtorch to loosen things like the ABS rings. Heat expands the metal and cracks any bond formed by surface rust.
Don’t use the torque wrench for anything other than final tightening to a torque setting. Any other use and it’ll quickly become worthless.
It’s nice to see someone else putting money into and repairing a high mileage car it makes me feel that mine will be worth doing in the end. I have a 2002 bmw 320ci convertible on 254,000 miles and yes on a petrol engine! It’s very clean and tidy for the age just has a few tiny problems I keep telling myself just scrap it or sell it for cheap it’s not worth fixing but the more I fix it the more I love it and love driving it! So Thankyou for giving me motivation for getting my high mileage hero project finished :)
learning new things is brill and experience to get hands on, It very brave to repair your lovely Volvo without any experience which shows your great determine to keep your car.
the control arm , it a right bugger to get it out after undo on the ball joint but after you undo both bush mount, as soon these two came off the control arm slid right off the ball joint.
I seen you bolted the bush mounts on first then tried to fit into the ball joint but it proven to be very difficult, I'd undo the bush mounts put into the ball joint and lose hold by bolt and reattach the bush mount, hope that'll helps (seen this vid after 23 hours posted mark)
Linking your enthusiasm fair play Joel, keeping an old car alive!!
Loving the effort mate. I wouldn’t know where to start with half of those jobs, respect you so much for trying especially on such an old seized up Volvo too.
Much appreciated
Ball joint are meant to bend and rotate, the ball joint is fine. Lossen the drive shaft bolt a bit with the socket left on hammer the socket it should move the driveshaft.
You will struggle to get the control back on with the weight of the suspension suggest you get the two bolts undone holding the suspension strut to the hub and separate that, it makes it much easier to the the control arm in.
I speak from experience only s80 and v70.
Good job - stick with it! - Often having someone else around to bounce questions and ideas off helps i found in the past. Also a really old rusted suspension is as tough as it gets often!. Lucky you can drive away in a different car as often taking a break then coming back helps which you cant do if its your daily driver!.
it's a ball joint. It moves. That's what joints do ;) Move it back straight and you'll be fine.
Also, a small nit pick: in a previous video you were talking about lug nuts. XC90s don't use lug nuts - they use wheel bolts.
Good videos Joel. As an old XC70 owner I can relate so much to your problems!
You never know the 'tricks' for any of these jobs, as its normally the first and only time you ever do them.
Looking forward to seeing the XC on the road.
The ball joint swivels in its housing , buy a cheap angle grinder and some cutting discs and some goggles and cut the drop links off , put the ball joint pin in the arm then bolt the ball joint to the hub and buy a Haynes manual , it will show you how many jobs can be done easier
When your struggling with rusty seized nuts and bolts try quenching method heat it up until its red hot pour cold water on it works every time
Great work Joel. I know how you feel. I remember filming a tutorial for a rear disc and pad change on my old 1 series BMW, but I had to change them in the winter -10c, snow outside, lack of light , a bad back, no electric all these annoying set backs including the batteries on my camera not lasting long at all. It really did test my nerves, but I got there in the end. Keep up with this learning and you will go far. :)
A++ for effort and motivation... refreshing to see the struggle and honesty of learning as you go. Been pulling spanners for awhile now, and learn something new every day, so as they say feel the fear.. and open it anyways hahahahaha, new sub loveing the series ..
Well done Joel - I would be so nervous about not being able to reverse any changes I had made. I’m sure you are too, but this makes for a damn good series. Well done for persisting. Your perspiration is our gain! Thank you!
As you stated, you can't beat hands on experience. Even when it doesn't go right, which is more often than not, it's all learning. I started working on my own cars in 1978 when a garage ripped me off. It takes time but you do get better. CZcams is a great resource for novices, but also be aware of other people not knowing what they are doing but who think they do! Best of luck.
To remove the driveshaft from the hub you need to unbolt the tie rod ends (and maybe the struts) from the hub to give yourself enough movement to pop it out. I did a ball joint replacment on axle stands and it was easier to remove the hub entirely from the car.
Also the ball joints move, think like a your shoulder socket. they are very stiff on new ones but can be moved by hand. So your "bent" ball joint isnt broken.
Fair play having a crack at it, you're winning!
ABS light could be steering wheel angle sensor, haldex service / module, or the YAW sensor and abs rings. Them centre driveshaft bolts is 30Nm and then 90 degree turn..Clean the bolt and add thread lock (better buy new bolts from dealer)
I remember my first Volvo P2 chassis wishbone change took about three days on the driveway, sympathise massively. You're absolutely right about getting stuck in. Those bushes wear FAST so I can whip 'em on and off in no time now!
Have you tried Baking?
When in doubt oxi acetylene torch. Can't be tight if its a liquid mate. Great job by the way. Love the content
A carpenters hammer? Come on Joel! A 2lb Engineers hammer with its ball-pein head will shock most ball joints loose easily.....if you apply the kinetic energy correctly.
ABS Rings..... mostly require a wire brushing....
It's a ring....it does not "wear" as such but accumulates rust and debris which causes false signals to the sensor, and thus the ABS warning light.
(Be thankful you are not doing these jobs on a V8 version of the Xc90.... Double the nightmare, I can assure you. I did much the same jobs on mine recently....and I'm 71.)
But I love your enthusiasm....... every day is a contribution to the learning curve....... Crack on young man. You're doing fine.
Good for you for trying. I finally broke free all the bolts on my 2004 Saab and got the discs and pads done. I was well pleased 😊
You might have sorted it out so for, but worth putting it here maybe for someone else trying to do it.
Drop links - where there’s their nut, there’s a little hole for an allan key to go in, so when you try to unscrew the nut you have to hold the screw with the allan key so it won’t spin. But by the looks of these particular ones, I would just cut them off with a grinder and install the new ones
Applying heat with a blow torch usually helps to free stubborn bolts off...
Ball joint wasn't bent it just moved ,it on a ball joint hence the name ! Put arm on ball joint first then bolt arm on !
before undoing old bolts always get a wire brush and clean the threads then put something like wd40 and leave it to soak .thanks for the video
Still using a claw hammer then.... you building a house or fixing a car?? Need a proper ball ended hammer or a 4lb club hammer to help break those joints.
Hope you didn't throw away that new Ball Joint as they're meant the swivel hence the name BALL JOINT!!!! I do this for a living and you chose a properly hard car to fix. We struggle to fit those arms at times and we've tools galore. Good on ya through for tackling these jobs and trust me frustration happens!!!
Mate you had a right mare. This reminds me of when I attempted a DIY job to spray paint my Audi grille black. About 4 attempts and £120 spent and looked absolutely crap. Good on you for trying mate, love your content.
Appreciate you watching thanks
You're looking like a chimney sweep mate 🤣
in future, you don't need to make some sort of contraption to press the brake pedal, just put a screwdriver into the vent of the brake disc
edited to say that you can just push the ball joint back again, but if you don't know, you don't know, nothing to get upset about as it's not ruined
I can only mirror a lot of the other comments, good on you for getting stuck in. I’ve never been brave enough to work on a car I own, putting in some coolant is enough for me to feel like I’m a proper mechanic😂😂😂. Fingers crossed for the MOT. Oh, and liking the outtakes bit. Maybe do a whole video of outtakes as a Christmas special?
Those drop link bolts you need to put an Allen key in the recess then use a spanner to undo them in the opposite directions
Ball joints are supposed to move like that, just push it back where it needs to be.
It's literally a joint on a ball so it can move in any direction
Been religiously waiting for this!
Got stuck with the content ! Really nice, enjoying it. Good work keep it up.
Well done man you did wonderful and this is how it really is on cars so thank you man 👍👍. Excellent vid
Hey Joel, those rings…. Jack up the car and rotate the wheel/driveshaft. If the rings have a shiny spot on them it’s where the rust from the driveshaft underneath has expanded the ring and it’s kissing the ABS sensor. An easier option is to undo the retaining bolt on the ABS sensor, put a thin washer underneath the sensor to pack it out a little off the ring. Worked perfectly on my BMW and a lot easier than fitting new rings or a driveshaft. If there are no shiny spots on the rings it’s going to be the ABS sensor which only being one bolt and the sensor wiggles free, is also a damn site easier than replacing those rings.
Hope this helps
Eddie
a ball joint is like ball in a socket bud, it is meant to move around, this is why it's used. It's not bent (it would take some serious power to bend one) keep going though it's coming together.
Tip for you mate, you can wedge a flat screwdriver in the brake disc against the carrier and that will stop the driveshafts from turning, Also buy a Brass drift and a decent size Ball Pein Hammer and you’ll have a good chance of freeing off the drive shaft, the brass is softer than the cv joint so won’t damage it, then you can either just chisel ABS ring off or just cut a small slot in it and then chisel it off. I’m sure you’ll manage. Good luck and well done for giving it a go.
Soo looking forward to the next episode of this series! It’s fantastic hang in there young lad😎