Bengaluru is forever dug up, Mumbai in decay, why our metros are cursed | ep 334

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  • #CutTheClutter #Bengaluru
    India's major cities are struggling with delayed infrastructure projects and consistently changing politics. In episode 334 of Cut The Clutter, Shekhar Gupta explains how provincial politics is ruining our cities, especially Bengaluru.
    *Error regretted: 18:44 The capital of Illinois is Springfield, not Irvine.
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  • @ThePrintIndia
    @ThePrintIndia  Před 3 lety +5

    Good journalism needs support from smart people like you. Subscribe to ThePrint here: theprint.in/subscribe/

  • @Indian2285
    @Indian2285 Před 4 lety +77

    We will see the same documentary even in 2030

  • @himanshudixit4217
    @himanshudixit4217 Před 4 lety +113

    bengaluru- Im forever dug up .
    Kanpur - Hold my Spade..

    • @pahay8735
      @pahay8735 Před 4 lety +7

      Democracy as a system of government in its current form has failed across all developing countries.
      Politicians are rewarded for pandering to voters’ immediate demands and desires, to the detriment of growth over the long term.
      Democratic systems encourage such short-​termism, it will be difficult to solve many of the seemingly intractable structural problems slowing global growth without an overhaul of democracy.
      From an article in foreignpolicy dot com Why Democracy Doesn’t Deliver
      Endless elections, unqualified leaders, uninformed voters, and short-term thinking are impeding economic growth.

    • @prashanttiwari5686
      @prashanttiwari5686 Před 4 lety +9

      Kanpur is a 3rd grade city unlike Bangalore which is our so called premier city of india

    • @himanshudixit4217
      @himanshudixit4217 Před 4 lety +1

      @@pahay8735 Absolutely...maybe a hybrid system like China had been better...A central committee where leaders r chosen on merit rather than their skill to appease.

    • @himanshudixit4217
      @himanshudixit4217 Před 4 lety +7

      @@prashanttiwari5686 Kanpur was once called manchester of east bro.. We created a so called premier city & ruined which was actually one. It only shows how ill plannned & short sighted our administrators hv bn

  • @reardelt
    @reardelt Před 4 lety +76

    We should not normalise 5 year delays. China gets stuff done 2-3 years in advance.

    • @smitraninga
      @smitraninga Před 4 lety +1

      yes.. have seen that first hand

    • @zekekace6882
      @zekekace6882 Před 4 lety +13

      They are commie and there are no activist and NGOs.

    • @codenamevisage
      @codenamevisage Před 4 lety +1

      @@smitraninga Can you elaborate on your experience?

    • @shazam7950
      @shazam7950 Před 4 lety +6

      I live in China and this is very true. They always try to be ahead of their deadlines. They redeveloped their footpaths (which seemed well built as per our standards) of an entire metro city in just 6 months.
      They always say 'Time is money' and they stick to it!

    • @smitraninga
      @smitraninga Před 4 lety +6

      @@codenamevisage saw 60 floor building completed in 8 months.i lived in a city called Tianjin. 1.5 crore ppl live there but planned so well. Public transport ..city busses .Even have been to beijing delhi metro network seems small when you compare. i know they are authoritarian but we have to appreciate their good things.

  • @quest4light68
    @quest4light68 Před 4 lety +69

    We are blessed with illiterate politicians and illiterate junta, angrezo ke zamane ka ICS I.e IAS and khichdi democracy we care more about Cricket ,Bollywood films .

    • @taysoonpoh9783
      @taysoonpoh9783 Před 4 lety +1

      The sad truth is that brilliant and competent Indians can only thrive outside India....Google and Microsoft....

    • @DP-bl7nh
      @DP-bl7nh Před 4 lety +1

      ​@@taysoonpoh9783 I would say its an easy way out for talented Indians to get out of the corrupt shit hole and make decent living elsewhere , on the other hand it is sad to see this happening as our late president sir Abdul Kalam once said "The biggest problem India is facing is not corruption or over population , it is Brain Drain of the Country" , If all the well educated graduates leave the country then who will fix the country!!! . In short India is Fucked unless , this brain drain stops. Blessed are those who stay and fight!.

    • @Anskurshaikh
      @Anskurshaikh Před 4 lety

      its not about being educated, its all about greed for power and money. There is no sense of responsibility from these politicians towards people, they are supposed to be servants, yet they live like kings over common people.

    • @vasanthnarain5639
      @vasanthnarain5639 Před 4 lety

      Because we elect them

    • @BarisonMega
      @BarisonMega Před 4 lety +2

      illiterate politicians have managed 18 % of the world's population for 70+ years without falling apart and also got the democracy thing going........... no where in the history of this world that many people has been controlled for so long with democracy going....only 1 country managed that many people china , but that does not have democracy........ so called engineer politicians of USSR, educated according to your standards failed .... USSR did not lose any battle.... but they simply politically crumbled... engineer politicians could not keep them together...
      .please understand no where in the history of this world that many people had been kept under control with democracy.... there is no example for our indian politicians to follow..... what ever they hav done they hav done it for the first time in the history of this world............. do u get it.........(they have no common questions in the exam... no question bank to follow before appearing for board exam)...yet they hav succeeded.......our country's goal was never to hav high growth.......... just remember all the politicians said this same line ,everyone who sat in the cm or pm chair... desh tutna nehi cahiye......... that is the only aim....in recent years it has been growth.... since our neighbouring countries are developing.... u hav to grow... to secure yourself.... thats y this new target
      so what is the lesson........... a politician does not need to be a educated person..if that would hav been the criteria then einstein would have been the prime minister of germany instead of hitler....
      the only criteria for a politician is that he should understand the pulse of people's heart thats all........ and as u all know reading peoples heart does not hav any formulae... and there are no courses offered by universities about that subject ... so u cant learn or get a degree about that field............. so the subject is hard isnt it??????????????

  • @sharadchandakacherla8268
    @sharadchandakacherla8268 Před 4 lety +36

    Thanks for considering dakshin Bharat other than Tamil Nadu sir,you took so much time for that, donno when Delhi shifts focus here

  • @savithakl7577
    @savithakl7577 Před 4 lety +16

    Now you know our problems in Bengaluru. Finally you understand our plight with CTC episode. IT crowds pay taxes, Middle class uses dug up potholed, useless roads and suffer to reach office, but BBMP uses our taxes to look after Sadashivnagar and Vidanasoudha areas for the politicians. Middle class suffers while paying taxes. Poor get doles, BBMP uses funds to deliver to rich politicians in tony areas. Metro was brought to Kanakapura thanks to DK Shivakumar while depriving the IT community of their much needed roads. Now KJ George has managed to get 2 metro stations for his investment in Manyata tech parks. Question is why is bengaluru development dependent on politicians investments in areas?

  • @vogetiakhil4451
    @vogetiakhil4451 Před 4 lety +19

    Who wants infra? Chalo sab log ek project dhoondhke protest kardenge. And Our govts are notorious for going back on contracts and projects.

  • @atisanskari9814
    @atisanskari9814 Před 4 lety +31

    Here in Ahmedabad project are completeling before deadline because of new municipal commissioner Vijay Nehra.

  • @GururajShivramakrishnan
    @GururajShivramakrishnan Před 4 lety +22

    Absolutely true. Bangalore has been headless city

  • @sudarshanramaswamy7529
    @sudarshanramaswamy7529 Před 4 lety +5

    How about shifting India's capital away from Delhi to somewhere like Andaman or Nicobar, let these politicians rot there🤔🤣

  • @mohitonutube
    @mohitonutube Před 4 lety +62

    Parties came and went, Bangalore remains without 'roads' and infrastructure. Too much corruption in the last two decades.

  • @nirmitpatel2165
    @nirmitpatel2165 Před 4 lety +6

    This is probably the most unbiased episode from the The Print. Made me watch until the end, kudos ! !

  • @Mr230864
    @Mr230864 Před 4 lety +45

    Bangalore airport was built by private sector , if govt had to do it it would still be under construction

    • @vin2538
      @vin2538 Před 4 lety

      😂🤣😅perfectly well said!

    • @gauravv8097
      @gauravv8097 Před 3 lety

      Boss even airport is not complete

  • @AdityaJape
    @AdityaJape Před 4 lety +28

    the issue i see is every city is divided between MLA , MP and then corporators there is no centralised authority with for the city to take decisions .( feel free to comment)

    • @GSaurabh8
      @GSaurabh8 Před 4 lety +1

      That's the way India come to be most Federated country state has more power than centre

    • @sunilj10
      @sunilj10 Před 4 lety +4

      All those who ask for or take bribes need to be considered as ANTI- Nationals as they break up the fabric of nation building.

    • @poushalinag7942
      @poushalinag7942 Před 3 lety

      @@sunilj10 the main reason for delay in infrastructure us the tanturm thrown by various activists with every project.

  • @Sriram156
    @Sriram156 Před 4 lety +10

    ‘Capital cities are the colonies of the state’.. Very thoughtful.. 👏👏

  • @atulchanda9713
    @atulchanda9713 Před 4 lety +8

    Excellent. But in the same time we feel sorry for us. Tragic part is some people are hooked by what's the capital of Illinois and not the matter of this subject.

  • @gitesh9
    @gitesh9 Před 4 lety +36

    Sir
    Plz speak on garbage disposal also. Apart form Indore I believe no one is doing it. When one city can why not other.

    • @rinyapura9858
      @rinyapura9858 Před 4 lety +3

      Garbage is identity of India, indian in general love garbage. This is rude reality of Indian. They keep their house clean but dump infront of their gate

    • @SAURABHKUMAR-og3rp
      @SAURABHKUMAR-og3rp Před 4 lety

      @@rinyapura9858 Because municipality does not work here unfortunately...Leaving no other option to throw the garbage at some distance from one's house...

  • @sukanyasharma138
    @sukanyasharma138 Před 4 lety +18

    Thank you for talking about this sir. Urban planning as idealistic a field as they come and is extremely entrenched in political realities of the region. The disconnect between enforcement and planning leads to the opposite of the intention - increasing suffering of the denizens of the area. As a practicing economic development planner in Illinois, US (studied in Delhi) I have many issues/qualms about the state of city planning in India - ranging from planning education to research to lack of mechanisms that ensure that political leaders dont supersede the technical experts. My only hope is to eventually see a better, regional outlook to these problems which takes these issues beyond one political jurisdiction and hence reduces some political involvement. P.S - Capital of Illinois is Springfield.

  • @govisampath
    @govisampath Před 4 lety +13

    I am sure that people from Bangalore have been screaming their heads off for years that Karnataka is the most corrupt state you can find. No one has even heard us (let alone listen). Just imagine how much better both Bangalore and Mysore would have been if the international airport were between the two cities. Corruption destroys a society at every level.

    • @chandan4156
      @chandan4156 Před 4 lety +2

      I agree corruption is the root cause of all problems in India. But I see that there is a bit of support for AAM AADMI PARTY and I think only AAP can save the cities from turning into dump yards

    • @chandan4156
      @chandan4156 Před 4 lety

      @@weresic Delhi Municipality is run by BJP since 15 years

    • @Sameer_S_Kulkarni
      @Sameer_S_Kulkarni Před 4 lety

      @@chandan4156 AAP is just another political party, not much special about it. For making actual progress, our system has to incentivize issue based politics over ideology based politics..

  • @slamcan2k
    @slamcan2k Před 4 lety +28

    Absolutely agree. Autonomy for metros is teh only way forward

  • @MrDonsinha
    @MrDonsinha Před 4 lety +13

    Please make more videos on Bengaluru... condition is really pathetic here😣

  • @vivekojha707
    @vivekojha707 Před 4 lety +16

    Sir, Really informative. Am living in Bengaluru for the past 1 year. Could really visualize all your observations. I am a kolkata man. Would like a similar critique of kolkata also. This is the my 1st comment on any youtube video and yours is my first subscription. More Power to you.

    • @prashanttiwari5686
      @prashanttiwari5686 Před 4 lety +5

      Kolkata is a joke😂 there is no planned infrastructure anywhere except maybe Newton and salt lake...it is a dead city..long has been so

    • @shounakkossambe8109
      @shounakkossambe8109 Před 4 lety +2

      The Left destroyed Kolkata and now even Mamata didi is doing the same rather much worse.

    • @prashanttiwari5686
      @prashanttiwari5686 Před 4 lety

      @@shounakkossambe8109 the saying goes that "CPM left the man(Bengal) for dead and now Mamta is preparing to cremate the corpse."

    • @arnabbera2562
      @arnabbera2562 Před 4 lety

      @@prashanttiwari5686 "Dead" lol in your dreams. People who don't live or work here make expert opinions. Here education affordable, public transport reliable and so is last mile connectivity. Water crisis is unheard of and traffic is better managed than most Indian metros. Though sidewalks encroachment and overhead wires need to be sorted. Infact it can be safely said that Kolkata was the first properly planned city in subcontinent developed by Job Charnock in 1692.

    • @prashanttiwari5686
      @prashanttiwari5686 Před 4 lety

      @@arnabbera2562 yes and it seems u still live in 1962...Rajiv Gandhi cleared said this was a dying city and that too back in 1984...there are hardly any educational institutions here that offer any placement...I don't know what u study but for people who want a technical degree(btech students like me)Kolkata is a nightmare....literally every person who has the means available tries to move to Bangalore or Pune....as for traffic Kolkata is safe due to the lesser number of personal vehicles owned by people...compare that too Bangalore where per capita income is 3 times that of a person in Bengal and so many people afford a personal vehicle...there is a mass migration of the cream students to other cities...soon this city will be nothing more than a holiday home for well of people who come here just for the old feel and vacations...
      PS: I have been living here for a full 18 years ..far more than I wished...I live in tollygunge btw...meet up if u want😂

  • @Akshay_p_kumar
    @Akshay_p_kumar Před 4 lety +15

    The Hennur flyover you mentioned is completed finally. After so many years

    • @omarsait2050
      @omarsait2050 Před 4 lety +1

      Akshay P Kumar so true bro after a decade

  • @arunkumar1610
    @arunkumar1610 Před 4 lety +13

    With the current cost of onions, anyone will get shoe beatings to claim those onions .

  • @reardelt
    @reardelt Před 4 lety +32

    There is already the BMC municipal corporation, which already acts like a quasi-executive for the city.

    • @yashsaksena4995
      @yashsaksena4995 Před 4 lety

      Every year BMC gets around 30k crores in its budget listing the projects they're going to spend the money on. How many of those projects actually get implemented? Is there any record?

  • @vishhta
    @vishhta Před 4 lety +10

    It’s about time city’s road contracts should be only given to reputed companies like L&T

  • @abhijeetsingh1387
    @abhijeetsingh1387 Před 4 lety +61

    Just a small correction: Capital of Illinois is Springfield

    • @kittyman7015
      @kittyman7015 Před 4 lety +7

      That's where Homer Simpson lives. He's famous.😐

    • @abhijeetsingh1387
      @abhijeetsingh1387 Před 4 lety

      @@f2006541 there is an Irvine in Cali, there is no Irvine in IL as far as I know, the town is called Irving

    • @kiritivarkur9300
      @kiritivarkur9300 Před 4 lety +2

      so much data and opinion is being shared in the video but your focus is on correcting the person's negligible mistake?

  • @avanishpunj3905
    @avanishpunj3905 Před 4 lety +6

    Sirji you have very high hopes on Mayor system. In delhi we have one. He delayed metro system by withholding land 1.5 kms. He did not buy buses. He gave free water whereas he could have given 24x7 portal water. List is long. Problem is 'We The People'. If we are happy with free water, we will get 'free water' and if we demand 24x7 portable water, we will get it. 'We The People' of Delhi will decide in the next election, we want freebies or services. Per Capita GDP on PPP basis puts Delhite in middle income country on its own. Still we want freebies. Good luck. In democracy 'We The People' get the leaders that we deserve.

  • @nijilanand
    @nijilanand Před 4 lety +5

    First big cities like Mumbai Bangalore Hyderabad Chennai Delhi Calcutta should given UT like status and taxes should be collected directly Union govt. & projects should be union government.
    There should a commercial capital, judicial capital, legislative capital and executive capital for every state and union. Communication and connectivity improved between this cities
    Once approved project by government directly go for Financial review before CAG or or JPC (parliament body) and passed within three months and once approved project should not stopped no matter what. Unless national emergency like war.....

    • @arnabbera2562
      @arnabbera2562 Před 4 lety +1

      Most sensible comment. Also politically city mayor heads should be empowered. People must make their mayors accountable. How many people even vote for municipal elections. Mayor's with exemplary work should be made potential CM or PM candidates. This hierarchy is followed meticulously in China.

    • @nijilanand
      @nijilanand Před 4 lety +1

      @samudra gupta good to have centralisation in big project than 2or 3 stages

    • @theshape7801
      @theshape7801 Před 3 lety

      Your comment and India is great but it will take many years for that

  • @arunkarnik8092
    @arunkarnik8092 Před 4 lety +4

    Closing remarks on peepal trees was awesome!

  • @kashyapkhandelwal7135
    @kashyapkhandelwal7135 Před 4 lety +2

    As a Delhiite, I feel really lucky that we have the awesome Delhi Metro which now going into the Phase IV of construction.

  • @urmilcontractor7485
    @urmilcontractor7485 Před 4 lety +3

    What a brilliant analysis.. Thank u so much for this cut the clutter

  • @vinodraj8266
    @vinodraj8266 Před 4 lety +16

    Sir who is interested in development of Bangalore?😢 They are all interested in language politics, hope all know how they forced to remove Hindi name boards from metro stations.

    • @rakshithjp3425
      @rakshithjp3425 Před 4 lety +8

      vinod raj yes we value our languages in south India. We respect all the languages mentioned on the Indian currency and we also expect our neighbours to understand it. Tamilnadu, kerala and Hindi speaking states are equal for us.

    • @savithakl7577
      @savithakl7577 Před 4 lety +2

      Finally karnataka wants to emulate tamil people

    • @rakshithjp3425
      @rakshithjp3425 Před 4 lety +1

      Savitha KL Tamilnadu is a great state 👍🏼 but Karnataka has its own individuality unlike many states who fight against innocent Tamil people for not accepting Hindi language. Karnataka people are the true believers of Bharathas motive - unity in diversity. The fact is few decades back Tamilians were an integral part of building Bengaluru.

    • @coolbuddyshivam
      @coolbuddyshivam Před 4 lety +1

      @@rakshithjp3425 You could only expect unity in diversity if people have atleast language in common.

    • @rakshithjp3425
      @rakshithjp3425 Před 4 lety

      1. Language
      2. Religion
      3. Colour
      4. Appearances
      5. Mindset
      Almost everything is diverse.
      America with black people, jews, christians and asians are managing to live together. They have the highest GDP and most advanced technologies.
      What is stopping us? Is it diversity or Just mindset?

  • @shivkuma100
    @shivkuma100 Před 4 lety +1

    At least the dug up pot holes should be fixed up. Can the supreme court please help our metros ?

  • @vedamurthy5016
    @vedamurthy5016 Před 4 lety +4

    You said it right about Bengaluru.. 👍 I am from this city.

  • @YS-hl1hy
    @YS-hl1hy Před 4 lety +3

    Wow the colony analogy is perfect.

  • @rajeshdaviyal4602
    @rajeshdaviyal4602 Před 4 lety +16

    Being from Bangalore I'm fed up with this from past 10 years it's messed up. I believe it had the potential of being top cities of world but bcz of this political turmoil and lack of will. Before 10 years it was ranked above tokyo i remember as a kid reading it and today I feel for what have they done to it.

    • @prakharsrivastav4550
      @prakharsrivastav4550 Před 4 lety +2

      @Rakshita Shetty why do you guys still live there. Move somewhere else.

    • @rakshithjp3425
      @rakshithjp3425 Před 4 lety

      Guess he doesn’t have visa to go to Tokyo

    • @rajeshdaviyal4602
      @rajeshdaviyal4602 Před 4 lety

      @@rakshithjp3425 if you disagree with ur parents on something you don't give up ur home.

    • @rakshithjp3425
      @rakshithjp3425 Před 4 lety

      @@rajeshdaviyal4602 Please stop blaming your parents but am glad you consider this place as home tho lol. For starters, you can improve the conditions of your home in any possible manner.

    • @theshape7801
      @theshape7801 Před 3 lety

      I'm planning mangalore from same state karnataka, mangalore is a much better city

  • @Thoughtflux
    @Thoughtflux Před 4 lety +8

    Yes! This pepul tree has ruined my town. Everywhere there is a pepul tree discovered they make a temple around it... Like in the middle of the road! And no one can cut it. When will civil sense prevail over religious insecurities?

    • @Anskurshaikh
      @Anskurshaikh Před 4 lety

      This is why all religions should die.

    • @darshangowda9347
      @darshangowda9347 Před 4 lety

      If religion is helping save the tress, I am on board with the proselytizers and evangelists. After all what is civic* sense without the sense of wanting to save nature?

    • @Thoughtflux
      @Thoughtflux Před 4 lety

      @@darshangowda9347 Trees? Nope. Just one kind of tree. Never seen any religious agitation when trees are cut and forests vanish. Green peace & tribal agitation to save forests are not religious.

    • @darshangowda9347
      @darshangowda9347 Před 4 lety

      @@Thoughtflux No, there are many sacred groves, we just don't hear about. I am non religious too, so I get what you're saying.

    • @Thoughtflux
      @Thoughtflux Před 4 lety +2

      @@darshangowda9347 bro I'm from north India and i face these traffic jams every day because one side of the road is blocked because someone constructed a temple around a pepal tree occupying half the road. I'm not against temples - why should I be? But roads are important too.

  • @dasigi90
    @dasigi90 Před 4 lety +1

    A well researched and presented talk. As a Bengalurean, I can appreciate the challenges the city has. The infra sucks. The garbage piles up at every corner. Yes the roads are perpetually dug up. The roads are laid....and soon thereafter BWSSB comes and digs it up again. They complete their job, do a shoddy patch up...only to see BESCOM coming a few days later to dig it up again. Flyovers are under construction for perpetuity. The solution at the end is great. Have these large metros, be declared as Mayor run 'City States', and move the state capital away from these cities. However, don't know for sure as to how many of the political entities would be keen on administering a state, minus these cash cows. These centers are what keep their cash boxes ringing. A good suggestion, however with minimal chance of ever being accepted let alone being implemented.

  • @shrikrishna7862
    @shrikrishna7862 Před 4 lety +14

    Thank God, Mysore is saved from ITs clutches. Let Mysore be peaceful and beautiful as it is.

    • @shamikchakraborty3341
      @shamikchakraborty3341 Před 4 lety +1

      Are you stupid bro?
      If you get a chance to add job oportunities to your small town, then why shouldn't you?

    • @satwikmishra9589
      @satwikmishra9589 Před 4 lety +1

      @@shamikchakraborty3341 because then it'll turn into Bangalore; a lifeless town.

    • @shamikchakraborty3341
      @shamikchakraborty3341 Před 4 lety +2

      @@satwikmishra9589 a town will soon become lifeless if young people leave it because of better job opportunities in other cities.

    • @manjunathmn8789
      @manjunathmn8789 Před 4 lety +1

      @@shamikchakraborty3341 👍

  • @utkarsh_Shrivastava
    @utkarsh_Shrivastava Před 4 lety +4

    Excellent episode thanks for the detailed analysis

  • @akashparakh
    @akashparakh Před 4 lety +1

    Can you please not play the bell icon music till shekhar sir is talking. His last words are always lost in that din.
    Fabulous work, keep it up !

  • @brahmawarrior5424
    @brahmawarrior5424 Před 4 lety +2

    the root problem which no one mentions is POPULATION. we need a ONE CHILD LAW

  • @gururajs4640
    @gururajs4640 Před 4 lety +13

    In Gujarat,
    Gandhi nagar is the capital city with population of 3 lack.
    Ahmedabad is the largest city with population of 56 lack.
    it seems right.

    • @shashanks631
      @shashanks631 Před 3 lety

      No...
      Gandhinagar is just a suburb of ahmedabad (less than 10kms away from border of ahmedabad)....dholera & GIFT in between will create an urban weld and fuse up all the 4 cities into one.

  • @sonuEEE
    @sonuEEE Před 4 lety +4

    Hey Shekar thanks for taking time on Bangalore and AP ... You need to spend more time in South...

  • @amanmishra-kl1zk
    @amanmishra-kl1zk Před 4 lety +8

    Today uncle is very lit.pakka aaj traffic main fase hai 🤣

  • @ravinagaraj7003
    @ravinagaraj7003 Před 4 lety +3

    Any city that has grown at the same rate as Bengaluru is sure to have many of these same issues. The influx of humanity greatly outpaces the city's resources, even as they are being developed. So, forever, the planners are shooting behind the duck. Bengaluru's population in the last two decades has progressed from 57 lakh to 85 lakh to probably 120 lakh by next census. If it takes 10 years to build a metro line, the coverage in planned capacity and route maps are off by 30 - 40 lakh people. If we add political dither, it is no wonder that public works are mired. The paradigm of separating the political capital from the business centers in the US by at least one day's ride by horse carriage was apparently adopted to minimize big businessmen from meddling in government affairs (which is an excellent thing in itself). Planning for future development is fraught with political peril. The money investments are extremely large and if the anticipated growth does no materialize, the projects will be deemed wasteful.
    The Karnataka government should perhaps be moved out of Bengaluru to a part of the state that needs focus for development, perhaps Manyakheta (Malkhed, the capital city of the Chalukyas) with a rich history but currently not much economic development. This would help that part of the state's economy and allow Bengaluru to grow without so much political oversight.

  • @navneety675
    @navneety675 Před 4 lety +10

    Cut the clutter about smart cities project

  • @NarendraKv
    @NarendraKv Před 4 lety +2

    Mr. Shekhar Gupta, you are either misled badly or lying through your teeth on the NICE Road. NICE Road is India's largest land grab project. It was sanctioned by Deve Gowda when he was briefly the Chief Minister of Karnataka. The land was given at Re.1 per acre and along 130 kilometers from Bangalore to Mysore [more than 40,000 acres was transferred].
    Mr. Ramesh, who was the PWD Secretary at that time was the prime mover for the project. He retired from the Government immediately after the land was given on a BOO [Build - Own - Operate] model and went on to join Nandi Infrastructure.
    NICE got this deal since they misrepresented to the Government that they were actually a US based company and were backed by strong US promoters. The whole representation was a hoax. The project was proposed in a 1995 Trade Mission led by then Massachusetts Governor. The promoters were three Limited Companies - In the US, companies are Inc [Incorporated] and not Limited. Without checking on the promoters, huge tracts of land was committed. You rightly said that Mr. Baba Kalyani was the key investor. He invested his personal funds in this project [not the Kalyani Group]. He is a Lingayat and the key movers in this scam were all Lingayats [it is a different issue that the beneficiary politicians & administrators belonged to all castes and parties].
    The land acquisition process between Mysore and Bangalore was completed within a few months. The farmers along the alignment lost their land for measly compensation. When activists [including me] protested in a court mandated public hearing, we were arrested by the Deve Gowda government for objecting development. SM Krishna came much later. Deve Gowda, both as CM and later as PM, advised us to stop protesting against development projects and co-operate with the government.
    With court cases as an excuse, NICE has just completed a ring road covering half of Bangalore's perimeter [53.3 KMs]. They are charging exorbitantly for this small stretch. The company has apparently sold or gifted [to friendly politicians] or kept land banks to themselves and are no longer speaking about any Bangalore - Mysore connectivity.
    There are unproven allegations that SM Krishna got substantial land gifts and he aided the company strategically when he was the CM. The same accusations are leveled against many politicians who were leading the state between 1995 and 2010.
    Deve Gowda, only this decade realized that he had sanctioned the largest land grab project and he was apparently not a beneficiary. The land was acquired from his Vokkaliga community farmers. He raved and ranted for some time before the elections. He is now silent about the project, as are his is sons - one can only concur reasons for their silence.
    The company has skillfully misused our courts and our Constitutional process to get the land and not build the project. Each acre of land costs roughly 1 crore to 5 crores along the stretch. You can understand how much public money got transferred. We still comment on Bofors and Adarsh - they are chicken feed in comparison.
    Indisputable facts are that some people got 40,000 acre of land at Re.1 / acre. The land must value at not less than 6 lakh crores. They built a small stretch of ring road. They are now not speaking about the Bangalore - Mysore Expressway. The state government is neither asking them to build or return the land. The government's writ does not extend even to regulate the toll collected. This is the true story about India's urban infrastructure.

  • @remasteredambience
    @remasteredambience Před 4 lety +5

    Honestly, "Bangalore" is acceptable...even "Karnatak" without the "A" is fine if you're talking in Hindi, because that's how it's said in the language. It's only when you use the Hindi pronunciation while talking in English, that most of us get rubbed the wrong way...and even that has to do more with North Indian (BIMARU to be precise) hegemony, than anything else. Just my two cents on the issue.

  • @runjhunp
    @runjhunp Před 4 lety +2

    Very informative video sir....we need such videos before an election so that people know the facts and are able to question there representatives based on them

  • @krish_telugu
    @krish_telugu Před 4 lety +1

    I still wonder why companies flock to this mismanaged infrastructure city... Other reason why bnglr is like it is now, bcoz of private housing projects and landlords who have exploited and encashed the growth even before govt had planned infrastructure development around those areas

  • @ravindraharsoor3460
    @ravindraharsoor3460 Před 4 lety +1

    Because, politicians, bureaucrats, journalists are corrupt. One of these days fed up citizenry will rise up. Change of ruling class is only beginning. Then curse of Karnataka is Devegowda family

  • @arshlenovo436
    @arshlenovo436 Před 4 lety +60

    Come to Hyderabad it has really done well compared to Bangalore.

    • @kartikaytiwari7387
      @kartikaytiwari7387 Před 4 lety

      compared to any metro in this nation

    • @arshlenovo436
      @arshlenovo436 Před 4 lety +1

      The metro railway infrastructure roads.

    • @kartikaytiwari7387
      @kartikaytiwari7387 Před 4 lety

      @@arshlenovo436 even the airport is best

    • @ayeluru
      @ayeluru Před 4 lety +4

      Arsh Lenovo I think it will be better if the Capital is moved outside of Hyderabad, say, to Warangal.
      That will reduce a bit of pressure on Hyderabad.

    • @arshlenovo436
      @arshlenovo436 Před 4 lety

      @@ayeluru Hyderabad and Warangal can be linked together like Pune and Mumbai but I don't think making Warangal a capital would be a better move. You may have some point in your suggestion but Hyderabad itself have large empty land at its surroundings.

  • @reardelt
    @reardelt Před 4 lety +15

    Illinois' capital is not Irvin, it's Springfield.

  •  Před 4 lety +3

    That's why india can't become Super power. some time i think we should drop this fake democracy become like china.
    in china is people can't get justice, is their cities ,ministers like this???? but for common people china system is good
    go work bright future for kids clean cities cheap and indigenous items etc. only problem when you speak against
    government what why i complaint if i have good job, bright future for my kids, cheap and good transport, no dirty politics
    if this is all you get in under one party or communist rule it's good. because some time you feel we are free in democracy
    we can say anything we want what not have basic facilities then why not communism if they can.

    • @priyanjankumar1956
      @priyanjankumar1956 Před 4 lety

      There is an issue with such kind of system as in china, It works well only when the party and top leaders are thinking more about country or at-least as much for the country as for themselves. The moment one detector minded person holds the throne all is gone. example North Korea and of-course the fall of soviet union.

  • @rajeshbobba3851
    @rajeshbobba3851 Před 4 lety +2

    Solution is to stop population migration to just few cities 4 Metro's +Hyderabad and Banglore Totally - 5 Cities for 150 crore population
    We need to develop and need new invistments to other tyre 2 cities and other state capitals
    (Develop Three cities each in bigger states and 2 cities in small state's)

    • @rajeshbobba3851
      @rajeshbobba3851 Před 4 lety

      @ResearchShyVids I completely agree with you

    • @rajeshbobba3851
      @rajeshbobba3851 Před 4 lety +1

      @ResearchShyVids Gwalior which is 300 km from Delhi can be developed as sister city to Delhi .

  • @DilipkumarRaval
    @DilipkumarRaval Před 4 lety +1

    Very good analytical thoughts sharings. Thanks.

  • @Gupta_Anurag
    @Gupta_Anurag Před 4 lety +7

    #shekhargupta: I would like to join you for a drink on Friday night in Bengaluru, in case you are available :P

  • @HistoryOfBharat
    @HistoryOfBharat Před 4 lety +3

    If they make diff city as state capital,it will create another 15-20 cities in india which is going drive our economy.
    10 crore people can live der and will take the burden from big cities.
    In WB,der is only Kolkata. Ty cld hv built Durgapore or Siliguri as a big city but no. They hv not done anything like that.

  • @nikhilmadhok4941
    @nikhilmadhok4941 Před 4 lety

    Shekhar ji, you are on point. If you are reading this message then 1000 cheers to you and your team for bringing out such a deep pool of knowledge.

  • @Aman-tm5xy
    @Aman-tm5xy Před 4 lety +5

    thank you sheila dixit mam for delhi metro

  • @lord_of_love_and_thunder
    @lord_of_love_and_thunder Před 4 lety +1

    The US population is overwhelmingly urban (83% vs 34% for India), and so are their voters. India is not going to be an urban country for a long time. We need to negotiate and redistribute powers between cities and states.

  • @TheLargeoldshoe
    @TheLargeoldshoe Před 4 lety +3

    mumbai is in decay because of unrelenting population migration from failed cities & states in northern India.

    • @arnabbera2562
      @arnabbera2562 Před 4 lety

      Same can be told about cities in USA where so many Mumbaikars/Maharashtrians are queuing up like termites. They are responsible for decaying those cities too

    • @bclassic2474
      @bclassic2474 Před 4 lety +2

      Bihar and eastern up is utter failure they literally have one member of family member either in delhi mumbai or kolkata. Iam from north east and when u realise truck load of people travel so far even in north east for laboir work then somethig is wrong there.

    • @stillwatersnightsky6533
      @stillwatersnightsky6533 Před 4 lety

      @Third Eye yep

  • @anjaligangoli7939
    @anjaligangoli7939 Před 4 lety

    On a lighter note perhaps we should hand over the supervision of city infra to IKEA. From the moment you enter it's Hyderabad outlet gates , to the exit , you forget you are in India - unless of course you visit on a weekend when the crowds make it impossible for you to do so.The design and construction quality are like their outlets anywhere in the world .

  • @mnjssm2013
    @mnjssm2013 Před 4 lety

    Telangana is so lucky... our Infrastructure progress is in a rapid speed.... due to stable govt.... Thank You TRS 😊 All projects are getting completed...

  • @adityaiyer3250
    @adityaiyer3250 Před 4 lety

    Very good points by Shekhar Gupta. Bangalore is becoming unliving... No metro projects are done...

  • @rrhippal
    @rrhippal Před 4 lety

    thank you for this informative series of videos, Mr. Gupta and ThePrint team. they really help me get a better sense of what the ground realities are, what the actual problems are, what different parties' motivations are, etc while sitting here in the US. your videos thankfully don't have much of a political/ partisan bent. and yes, Springfield is the capital of Illinois, Irvine is in CA as one of the other comments pointed out.

  • @jithubinu9266
    @jithubinu9266 Před 4 lety +4

    Even though this state is full of Stikes and Hartals, Kerala managed to separate it's biggest city Kochi and it's capital Trivandrum, but I can't boast about any infrastructure marvels.
    Still the metro here was completed in a record time

  • @Chopraviraj
    @Chopraviraj Před 4 lety

    Public servants - bureaucrat and politician - have to be held accountable and disciplined. Why not pass a bill that expels any who have participated in a delayed project from office? catharsis

  • @lopsidedtyranny8854
    @lopsidedtyranny8854 Před 4 lety +2

    16:21 That's the very reason why Telangana wanted to be separated. The caste power struggle between Naidus and Reddys was hindering everybody's growth but andhra people are blinded by caste. Unfortunately for Andhra, no progress can be expected as long as these two castes are in power.

    • @chaitu1722
      @chaitu1722 Před 4 lety +2

      @samudra gupta Hyderabad was never a sleepy town , just becouse it was not congested and suffocative like other cities doesn't mean it's a small town. you can go back and check at the time it was made part of andhra. In fact i would argue these regressive politics of those castes hindred the natural progress of the city.It has all the natural advatages to grow those poltical groups only developed areas or projects when they could take advantage for thier narrow benefit.

  • @arihantsinha8137
    @arihantsinha8137 Před 4 lety +1

    just a pointer, why does not Congress make states where its in power have Mayor. Just shows how serious they are themselves about their manifesto. That's why you should not care about their manifesto, not because they have just 52 seats. They get 52 seats because for them promises and manifesto are a way to appease all never to be taken seriously.

  • @SP-oc7dm
    @SP-oc7dm Před 4 lety +1

    There's no foreseeable future where it seems to happen.

  • @aanandbadwaik8095
    @aanandbadwaik8095 Před 4 lety +1

    Decentralizing availability of employment opportunities is the answer to infrastructure issues in Major Metropolitan Cities. Spread industries to tier 2 or tier 3 cities, create a network of IT firms over whole state rather than concentrating on Single City. Reduce the population density in big cities and spread it over a larger region.

  • @prashant5917
    @prashant5917 Před 4 lety +5

    Sir,you refer Bangalore as Bengaluru,then why you don't refer Bombay as Mumbai.

  • @SanjeeviNarasimhan
    @SanjeeviNarasimhan Před 4 lety +4

    Dear Shekar, Welcome to Bangalore. You mentioned to be in Bangalore. You got the right issue. Infact, it is very slightly better in the last 2 months. In fact, People of certain localities protested in Public hence some action has been initiated.
    There has to be a independentRoad Repair and Restoration body as a single point to approve any dug ups and ensure it is fixed. All the departments wanting to dig up should take approval and pay up the estimated amount to fix it upfront the this body and such a body should be responsible for filling and laying new road

  • @agytjax
    @agytjax Před 4 lety +2

    18:45s : Capital of Illinois is Springfield - not Irvine

  • @vvgame
    @vvgame Před 4 lety +3

    Hi Sir, would Tamilnadu and Chennai get your attention.. we are also part of india 😁 good or bad please include us in these discussions thank you

  • @YS-hl1hy
    @YS-hl1hy Před 4 lety +1

    I don't understand why Andhra people got rid of Chandrababu Naidu. He was a visionary leader.

  • @sunilj10
    @sunilj10 Před 4 lety +2

    Bengaluru was a BJP renaming, like Mumbai, Karnavati was similarly. Personally I am anti renaming and pro development.

  • @vinu85
    @vinu85 Před 4 lety +3

    Why are you not on TV Sir!!
    Can't get my parents to watch you on social media

  • @haridasification
    @haridasification Před 4 lety +3

    Both the cities are being ruined by greed

  • @narasimharao9492
    @narasimharao9492 Před rokem

    New proposal. A tunnel from Hebbal to Peenya to solve traffic issues from DKS costing 50000 cr

  • @shridharb1131
    @shridharb1131 Před 4 lety

    Dear Guptaji, enjoyed listen to you as it was unbiased. This attitude brings the best out of you as a journalist.

  • @onkarsawantbhosle3146
    @onkarsawantbhosle3146 Před 4 lety +1

    As an Arey activist myself who is on the ground everyday, let me tell all your viewers that all the trees that were supposed to be cut are not cut. Only a portion has been cut.
    Also, the compensation you're talking of, all those replanted trees are dead. I'm not even getting into the debate of the quality of centuries old trees vs. newer trees.
    Thirdly, if this carshed is allowed inside Arey, it'll be a Trojan horse that will consume entire Arey. The vulture builder lobby is just waiting and no one can trust politicians when they see their monetary profits.
    Also, let me remind everyone that there are better alternate sites for the carshed available. It's nothing but a dirty conspiracy.
    What good is the development of our future generations can't breathe the air?

  • @saimanojc
    @saimanojc Před 4 lety +2

    This has to be the most well-articulated, video about our cities, why don't you just run for the prime minister's position lol

  • @zafarahmedbutt3899
    @zafarahmedbutt3899 Před 4 lety

    I appreciate these people, educated and intelligent as well. Always humble, supportive and happy. They respect others and get more respects and favours in response.

  • @apurvavaidya12
    @apurvavaidya12 Před 4 lety +4

    this is why I am losing faith in our country why we are doomed

    • @chandan4156
      @chandan4156 Před 4 lety +1

      We are not doomed and I feel still there is light at the end of the tunnel provided you look up and see the concept of AAM AADMI PARTY

    • @apurvavaidya12
      @apurvavaidya12 Před 4 lety

      @an raghav Do u this this system will change overnight it will take years to change the pace is very slow but indeed it is changing
      But my hope is lost because it will take too long to change things and it will be too late
      I think as a society as a citizen of this country and as a hole nation we are failing.

  • @balajivpatil
    @balajivpatil Před 4 lety +2

    Nice analysis

  • @harshithgowda4785
    @harshithgowda4785 Před 4 lety +1

    politicians will never give up there cash rich city they will never let us people in the city to run the city all party are same on these matter they make it matter of pride

  • @amitk2081
    @amitk2081 Před 4 lety +1

    Super correlation with US States. I was also surprised and amazed when i visited US and came to know the fact

  • @iampunie
    @iampunie Před 4 lety +4

    Metro work is taking way longer than expected

  • @abhinashkumar5425
    @abhinashkumar5425 Před 4 lety +2

    Not a single city In India can match Bengaluru global standard
    Not a single city like Shanghai, Chicago, Seoul, Moscow

    • @trends1019
      @trends1019 Před 4 lety

      Lol Nice Joke😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  • @muraliuppangala
    @muraliuppangala Před 4 lety +1

    On the ground..., Daily , commuting to work is more stressful than work itself

  • @mihirrao9537
    @mihirrao9537 Před 4 lety +1

    leadership, follower-ship, illiteracy, ignorance, greed...

  • @rajeshbobba3851
    @rajeshbobba3851 Před 4 lety +1

    First shift political capital and cinema industry from all the current Metro's (Mumbai, Chennai,Banglore, Hyderabad)

  • @hkp1450
    @hkp1450 Před 4 lety +2

    Its just a second sentence and you got my like 👍👍

  • @anthikadjohn9594
    @anthikadjohn9594 Před 4 lety +1

    City ruined by politicians

  • @adityaanchliya9640
    @adityaanchliya9640 Před 4 lety

    This issue was worth decluttering
    After all those Maharashtra politics news this was a breath of fresh air
    Please keep making the videos on such topics which most of the journalist ignores